Yet Another Star Trek Podcast - Ep 010: (TOS S01E08) Miri

Episode Date: May 3, 2022

This week The Gang watches the crew of The Enterprise investigate a mysterious distress call from a planet that is identical to Earth. Once they beam down, they find out a mysterious disease has killed off all the adults, leaving only children. Why is there a duplicate Earth? What will happen to the children? Tune in and hear Drew, Majeed, and Brad talk about the episode Miri.   Drop us an email at [e-mail] Be sure to check out our website, social media, and join our Discord! Links for all are listed below: Website | Discord | Instagram | Twitter | TikTok | YouTube “Warp Speed” and "To the Stars" was written and performed by William Grobbelaar Music: https://soundcloud.com/williamgrobbelaarmusic Additional artwork by George Rateau: https://www.fiverr.com/georgerateau Past Sadness by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/5024-past-sadness License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

Hey everybody, welcome to yet another Star Trek podcast. I am your host for the evening. My name is Drew. Tonight I am joined by two wonderful gentlemen. First of all, I'd like to introduce the man who, if he were in a children's gang, he'd probably be the one to start stuff. That's Micheal.

I'm Drew. I'm laughing in anticipation because, again, anywhere you go with that, it could either be me or Brad. Well, speaking of Brad, I'd like to introduce the man who, if he were in a children's gang, he'd probably be the one telling everybody that we're going to get in trouble if they keep it up. That is very accurate. That's me.

That's Brad. I mean, I can see it go the other way but more likely Like you guys. I don't know. I don't know. We should be doing this. We're gonna get in trouble Friends gonna be the rats. Brad is totally totally the rat. Oh, I will totally do it But I'll be like I'll be like no, I'm it wasn't me guys. I swear it wasn't me. Yeah, it was it really was I'll be like, no, I'm, it wasn't me guys, I swear. It wasn't me. Yeah, it was. It really was.

Wait, now are we talking about like our adult selves being a part of a children's gang or us as children in a gang? I mean, I don't really see that there's as much in a difference. So from, yeah, it probably would be the exact same thing. Yeah. I mean, I don't know.

The only difference between me now versus me as a child is I pay bills. And you're aware of the actual consequences. And I'm aware of the consequences of being in a children's gang. Well, no, more like, hey, shit, if we break this, oh my God, I'm going to owe this amount of money. Yeah, well, my parents kind of beat that into my god. I'm gonna owe this amount of money Yeah, well my parents kind of beat that into my head when I was young because when they bought toys for me like It's only a Ford one so if I broke it like I didn't get another one They bought two toys he had a slinky but strained it

Those things are really difficult to bend back to normal Did you just make a few Sharama reference with that? It's technically a ghost buster's joke It could be a Zodberg joke. I'm pretty sure I'm sure it was in future Alma at some point But yeah close enough. Well, Kazooieberg had the slinky that he somehow it just mysteriously self-combusted. Yeah, I remember that. He fixed it right. Bender straightened. And Zoyberg was upset. And then Zoyberg fixed it and he tried to test it on these bumps. He got to the bottom. He's just on fire. Oh my goodness. What a fantastic gift. And then he just burst fire. Oh my goodness. What a fantastic gift.

And he just burst into tears like anybody would guys. I'm going to be completely honest with you. Like, it has been a dream of mine since I first hooked up a microphone to start a podcast and have a Star Trek podcast. And my number one dream, my number two dream is to have a future on my podcast. Oh, be careful, man. This may just quickly turn into that goodness. We can do that. We need to start workshopping names for that. All right. We'll take that one. No, no, no, just keep it as yet another

short-track podcast and then just review future on it. It would be perfect. Yet on April fools. If we record on, if we record it on and release the episode on April Fools, just do for every 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20 No, there is no mark. If I was to do a third favorite podcast, it would be a parks and a rec one. Oh, I guess I could throw Sunny in there somewhere too, right? That means the sun is me. The sun's me. Perfection really is. Really is.

So how are you guys doing? Like, it's been an entire week, because we do this weekly. Are you excited about all of the crazy stuff that's happening in the new Star Trek universe? Yeah. So we're recording this on April 5th, first contact day.

Happy first contact day, gentlemen. Happy first go. Happy first contact day, long live in prospect. I'm actually really excited with all the stuff that's going on with Trek. It's what excites you the most man. We have a stranger world's coming up. I know we keep passion discovery. But like I keep trying to get into it and for some reason this season just keeps falling through for me. I'm looking forward to something fresh, something new. I, you know, that is something that I'm looking forward to, some, you know, change in pace as to what we're seeing. Also, there's a Star Trek Voyager documentary coming out.

I'm really looking forward to that. That was one of my all-time favorite series and has so many memories with it. I love to be able to go through and just relive some of those memories with the documentary. Did you? Now Voyager is a ship and the name of a show, right? Yes. Like we talked about this yesterday. Okay. Yeah. I mean, for the most part, they're pretty on the nose with naming quite a few of these

shows post-next generation. Deep Space Nine is the name of the station as well as the show. Voyager is the name of the ship as well as the show. Enterprise is the name of the ship as well as the show. Discovery. Discovery. as well as the show. Enterprise is the name of the ship as well as the show discovery. Wait, here's the way discoveries. The name of the ship. They never talk about it. They never talk about it. Don't look at, don't look at me that way. They never talk about it. So Brad, it's always crying. It's always, no, hang on, no, it's always crying. It's always

motivational speeches. They never, ever talk about how we don't talk about the cage. That's how we don't talk about the cage. What cage do we talk about? What can we talk about? Brad, question for you. Have you go for it? Have you seen the Deep Space 9 documentary that came out a couple years ago? No, I never got kids too. I think they're taking a similar tone

with the Voyager one. I would recommend checking it out. It's excellent. Very good documentary. Are they able to go through all the original cast and everything? For the most part, they ended up using older footage with Avery Brooks, I think he declined

to be part of the documentary. I remember really reading somewhere, Avery wasn't really of the captains, he's probably one of the least enthusiastic about doing some of the fan stuff for Sartreck? Yeah, he's moved on and he's been very respectful about it. He doesn't like bash the show or anything like that. I think he's teaching acting and he's awesome musician and he's just really, I think content just doing his own

thing and just not being in the Star Trek realm at this point. I kind of wonder if his experience kind of deterred him from what I remember reading up is that the first couple seasons they really pushed to give a shift of the image from the character that they really wanted to portray. And once I think one of the executives left, then he was able to give more from, I remember correctly. I wonder if that kind that experience kind of really like left a sour taste in his mouth. They hired him when he was coming off of Hudson Hawk and you know, he was, he was pretty badass in that show. Yeah. So to have him come in and, you know, completely changes look grow his hair,

shaved his goatee, it was just kind of not really true to what they had originally hired. Yeah, and I like I prefer so much more in the later seasons of the character. It felt more natural. The earlier ones felt so different. Yeah, well, the whole show really took, you know, quite a while to find its footing. So, but yeah, I mean, like I started watching the, they released like a six minute teaser for the Voyager doc and I didn't get to see all of it yet, but it looks like it's going to be fun. Yeah, from what I saw, it looked pretty entertaining and I'm looking forward to it. I've read up a bunch of different stuff on the show and like some of the ideas that

they had for the show, I was really disappointed they never actually came to fruition. Like the year of hell, that could have been the entire season. That, I think if that was an entire season, that would have been amazing. I agree. 100%. Yeah, amazing. Oh, hey, Majid, I forgot you were here. Sorry, buddy. One more nerdy point of discussion too. They dropped a teaser for Picard season three, which confirms that the entire cast of this generation is going to be present on the show. I'm looking forward to that.

I'm so excited. I actually... I've actually only watched the first episode of season two, so I am a bit behind. What was that, Mjut? Well, wait. Actually, they didn't announce his name. Now that you mentioned it, man. Oh, that would be unfortunate. I like the guy. Well, at least I didn't notice if they did. Yeah, Will Wheaton is so cool. Yeah, he's a real cool guy. I hope he's

pretty cool. I think Levar Burton is probably a little cooler than Will Wheaton. It's hard to be as cool as Levar Burton. Yeah, pretty accurate, you know. Hey, was Levar Burton able to see out of those crazy shades? I think depends on which one. And not really. No. So he's acting blind. Well, he's playing a blind guy while actually being blind.

Apparently. I think I had some limited vision, but but not by much. Wait, was the character blind? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, way to go. Way to go for the equal opportunity higher. Way to go. Yeah, man, generation. Yeah, I mean, look, Star Trek is a front runner for diversity. I don't know what I was going with that. No, that's fine. I want to, I want to bet it's just going to sit. I want to, I want you to, to bask in that. Is there a midget bashing it for not hiring a blind guy? No, I'm, I'm saying, way to go, way to go, uh, John Bookhard for putting a blind man as what the driver the ship driver engineer well season one he was the pilot the helmsman. Okay, so we don't see the word like there's no ship driver.

Helmsman alright so so if they're called a helmsman right the guy who drives the ship. What's a yamen. the guy who drives the ship. What's a Yaman? Yoman? Yoman. Yoman. Yoman. It's a record keeper, isn't it? I'm pretty sure it's a record keeper or it's some sort of like assistant. Yeah. Basically it's captain's assistant. Okay, so the Yaman keeps track of how many people Kirk has killed per episode. More or less. How many times do you take it out of the shirt? Yeah, as the shirt gets ripped. How many times is the shirt gets ripped? Goodness.

Is that a good Navy term? Well, yeah, a lot of this stuff is naval based. It's a Starfleet title. It's a personal assistant, such as carrying Starfleet tricorder retrieving information for a Starship's captain or announcing when to arrive with the boat swaying whistle. Yeah, so that's from Goodall Memory Alpha. They don't really have Yom in the past, the original series though. At least not that I'm aware of. I don't even remember an enterprise.

No. Yeah, me either. No. Archers, you watched enterprise? Oh God, Brad. Come on, man. We were so close. No, I didn't watch enterprise.

Did you do Marit? I just, I did. Marit. Yeah, to Marit. To Marit for you. I just ignore didn't watch Enterprise. I just I to merit. Yeah, to merit to merit for you. I just Alright guys so this week we watched an episode called Meary, this one first aired October 27th 1966. It is the eighth, I released episode in the original series 12th produced and let's dive into the synopsis, shall we? As written by the wonderful Brad. Ah, sadly, this episode isn't about the city of Miriam Elasia. However, the crew do discover a distress call from a planet. That's an exact duplicate of Earth.

Before we get into anything further with this, how the heck did they come across an exact duplicate of Earth and then never mentioned it in the entire episode and never ever mentioned it again. Well, they time traveled and they got there three days earlier. Yeah. Oh God. That's fresh on your mind, doesn't it? I'm never in my mind. I'll never let it go.

They discovered time travel. You keep grasping at these. Maybe that is the actual me. I did. I did. Listen, in my mind, I'm like, okay, well, what if they just time travel back three days, they wouldn't have gone to the stupid planet? Or maybe they would have gone there twice.

I don't know, this doesn't make any sense. And time travel is weird. It is. It can go into the whole episode debating about time travel rules. Well, we're going to ignore the time travel rules for now because there's no time travel in this episode, just an identical earth. Kirk, McCoy, Spock and Yeoman Rand beamed down along with two red shirts who somehow don't die in this episode. Good for them. They beamed into a ruinous modern city that is straight out of the 1960s.

Almost immediately a monster of a man runs towards McCoy, but he's easily handled by Kirk. Now how does he dispatch of this man? By punching in three times in a row. Unfortunately the man dies of mysterious causes and most definitely not all of the punching. The way team follows a noise and ends up finding a young terrified woman named Mary. She slowly starts to trust the crew explaining that all the adults become sick and then died, leaving only the children. The crew convinces Meary to take them to the local medical facility so they can find out

what happened. Gentlemen, first of all, what did you think about the crazy man? I thought that was like Solomon and Grundy from the comics and it was like shit man They got the comic book characters here. I like this. I didn't catch that. That was a good catch Yeah, Solomon Grundy definitely. I have no idea what you're talking about I think I think would Jesus kind of go with it I feel I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with that for the first time ever I feel like Majid in the Star Trek podcast Ouch I mean I get it.

I deserve that one. But you know, at least I watched it with sort of a card without, no, I did fall asleep. No, it's fine. But it just felt like the monster was a kind of a zombie wann to be cross between the Hulk. I actually thought of I am legend. That's the vibe I got to the landed in this abandoned. What I assume is they just went outside. I wonder if they say we're going to go outside and film this episode of Save.

We're going to go down to the bad part of LA, right? Yeah. Right. The punches that curcolate into this dude. Like he like picked him up and then punched him and then picked him up and punched him again. Right. He basically went all Batman on him.

Pray to me. I was, I was, I was so upset that, that spot didn't get his licks in. And you didn't get the licks. No, right. Yeah, I was thinking. Yeah, I was expecting the Vulcan sleeper hold, but sadly we didn't get that. Neck pinch. What was that?

Vulcan, neck pinch. But they go to sleep. You know what, it's fine. Vulcan neck, pinch, sleep or hold. I'm a nerve pincher. What, I don't know. Now you're making me self-question myself. Yes.

McCoy quickly discovers that everyone is infected with a disease that will eventually kill them, except for Spock. Apparently he's only a carrier, but he can never leave the planet. By the computer's calculations, they only have seven days ago before they go mad and kill each other. After some digging around, they find out that the people of this plant were trying to prolong their lives, and they partially succeeded. For every 100 years, a past that children would experience only one month of aging.

However, once they hit puberty, just like normal humans, all bets were off. They would become susceptible to the disease. I feel like that's very inconvenient. Yeah, it's like you've waited almost a millennia just to hit puberty. And then like, nope, sorry. I mean, I would, I would just to hit puberty. And then, like, nope, sorry. I mean, I wouldn't want to go through it again. Yeah, no. Then it makes me wonder, is like,

does that mean like they're gonna have like a hundred years of puberty? No, then they got a hundred years of your voice cracking? Just seven days. My voice is still cracking. So, I guess 20 years someday would you be a real man right and maybe my feet will grow that's that that's just

a little joke I bought some project rock shoes and these guys are making fun of me because my shoes size is 10 and a half which it pretty average. Minor is 10.5. I mean, they're wide, but you know, 10.5. This encounter is like an asteroid, thanks to it. It's fine, it's fine. So the crew at this point is desperately trying to find a cure with very limited resources they have in the planet. They become distracted at one point by some children

and I guess the kids take their communicators from them. Without them, McCoy fears that they won't have a chance of finding a cure. At some point, Rand walks off on her own, gets captured by the creepy children of the planet and the rest of the crew start to lose their shit. Kirk somehow manages, convince Mirry to take him to the gang of children, to get back Rand, and more more importantly their communicators After finding the children Kirk attempts to make a valiant speech to get them to listen But like the bunch of children that they are they just beat them up

Kirk breaks free and then manages to get them to finally listen I I hated that What I hated that. What? I hated that. We hated which way, which part? The block block. It was so funny. Yeah.

It was so funny to me. No, it made sense in my mind because it was showing how the children were kind of devolving into less less intelligent beings. Because they like over a period of time, like they grew, but like they're no longer getting the social cues that they normally would in a society with functioning people. So basically that two years that I spent inside because of COVID. accurate. All right. I mean, yeah. Only for you though.

While Kirk was away, McCoy thought he found a cure, but he's unable to verify if Will or will not kill him. So like any good scientist, he just tested on himself. As expected, it messes him up pretty bad, but drumroll please. He is cured. So, yeah, I mean... Convenient. 15 minutes left of the episode. Kirk comes back with the children to see McCoy laying in the ground, but he is no longer sick. The crew, the Enterprise, decide it's time to part ways leaving the children on the planet. What a f moment if I ever heard one. To sum up this episode, mixing viruses to extend life is bad. Food reserves somehow lasts around 300 years and finding an exact copy of the Earth doesn't mean

you need a second mention because that's just completely normal. Wow. I feel like this episode has so much going on. And yet somehow so little. I know, like, I think that last part was one thing that really bugged me about the earth. There was an exact duplicate. They showed it on the screen and you see California,

you see Florida, and you're like, okay, cool, it's a duplicate of earth. And where's the backstory behind it? And there's nothing. I had a thought about that. And again, I'm not coming into this as a start track fan, so I don't know the canon, but the captain's logs are not in the captain's logs are basically a recount of of what happened to recap in what happens.

So in this show, yes, in the future, they will become more real time. Right. So in my mind, watching this, I'm like, okay, cool. This is Captain Kirk being put on trial for the atrocities he did to his crew and red shirts. And he has to read off his Captain's log. Like him reading in front of like some sort of judge and jury right right. He's like all right cool. So Captain's log. Oh, you're like this one. I killed eight red shirts. Let me tell you how

Okay, you know what that's an interesting theory you got there Majid. It's it's my head cannon. I love it Love everything about that theory. Oh my goodness. All right. So we have an exact duplicate of the earth that is never mentioned again. I guess like maybe they just would have completely ignored the planet otherwise. I don't know. But this is their five year mission, right? Well, no, they had a distress call. Like there was no need for it to be a duplicate of Earth. Yeah, but I mean, if they were doing a fly by it and they just saw like a plan old planet,

they probably got a distress call. I mean, like, yeah, those guys are fine. There's a distress call. That's the, they go to the stress calls all the freaking time. There's nothing unusual about this planet. Unless this flat point was just a matter of them saving money and not having to deal with that. I kind of feel like that was part of a rewrite or something.

Like that probably was gonna have like a major point, but then like at some point, they just kind of left it in. They're like, yeah, whatever Figure it out in post The the set guy went on vacation and they have to change it from Oh, no, that's probably what it was is like they they just like oh crap man. Why is it gonna look like earth? You know what let's just call it a duplicate and get in call today. I'll see you I'll see you in a week. I'm gonna vacation Apparently there was quite a bit of rewriting going on in this script.

Okay, so I was right about the rewriting part. So I suspect they probably did some sort of like time travel thing, where they went back in time and it was like probably the 1960s or something and the disease happened and they were kind of like, oh shoot, what do we do? Let's just call it duplicate earth and then just knock all this other crap out. Forget the time travel. Sorry, Mijie.

Wait, no. The time travel is still a thing. He's testifying in court about it. So this is the entire time is like him just talking about all the times he's time travel. Every single episode. No, this is him being on trial and having to read it, read off his, his captain log. He's, he's being court marshaled.

Kirk, do we ever know how Kirk retires and passes it off to book. Yes. Yeah. There's a very first answer to that. Okay. So is there a scene showing Picard watching Kirk get sold off? Five minutes. Well, well, there's like about a hundred plus years in between the two shows.

So no. Well, no, it just means like is there an actual recording of him going on trial? I can tell you Majid He never goes on trial for all the red shirts that die under his command. So there's still time to make this camp No You don't know what's gonna happen to start truck four Are we talking about the voyage home because I know exactly Oh that one, all right, right G.'m going to have that one. Oh, that one.

All right. Right. The light there. Let's clear one. For goodness. Um, however, however, Majeed Kirk is at some point on trial. I'll give you that.

Yeah. That's great. More than four shirts. More than once actually. Actually, he's been on it a few times. few times basically basically the totality of the movies is him For killing rest shirts or sector harassment yes What do you guys think of this disease? I think that there were a few missed points here. A, did anybody try washing their hands?

And singing Happy Birthday for 20 seconds. It does work for COVID, so. Okay, B, do anybody think to ask for a hazmat suit and have extra crew come down to the planet? See, the thing with the hazmat suits is, in order to use them, you have to take off your gloves. And it is a nice reference. And you have to have a hood that doesn't actually

close anywhere. For anyone who's not aware, Drew is clearly referencing the episode, Naked Time. That's the one. Make sure you put the music in there. I already planned it. You see, like, the disease, I thought it was actually kind of a novel idea. To me is a little bit more terrifying in a different sense.

When I was just sitting out and thinking about it, because it's all the children by themselves, they're not able to get food, or at least grow food in the normal traditional sense based upon what it seems. And once the person reaches a certain age, they're just gonna go nuts and serve. Killing people are dying or whatever. It definitely, to me, is a little bit more scary in that sense.

Yeah, they become gups and they die. But I did find it really funny and kind of convenient at the same time when the soon as the enterprise arrived, they're about to run out of food. Let's plot convenience. So, going through the notes here in memory alpha, I just noticed a few things that I did not catch originally. So, nice little trivia. First of all, Gene Roddenberry's two daughters were in the Children's Gang. The guy who played John, the bad guy, he was in the movie Scrooge. Well, is he?

No. Hey, and by the way, did anybody think that Mary was actually lived Tyler? No You didn't think in any way shape or form that Mary look like lived Tyler. No, no, I hate you both. I I'm still I'm still I saw my fun facts guys My bad. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I can tell how excited you are, true. I'm sorry. I was trying to like bury the lead here. All right.

So Gene Roddenberry's two daughters. And William Shatner's two daughters. We're in the gang as well. What about Stephen Tyler's daughter? It was it was bring your daughter to work day. It was. It was. your daughter to work day. It was it was get your daughter paycheck day That's all I got Did that maybe maybe allow them to like avoid child labor laws back then be like?

Oh, it's just my child. So you know, I'm taking her into the work So therefore technically we're not paying her so therefore we don't have to follow these guidelines Maybe that's what the whole deal was I guess All right, I want to follow these guidelines. Maybe that's what the whole deal was. Everybody has. All right, I wanna talk about that. I really dislike Hollywood's portrayal of children from back then. Like just as a whole.

And it's not just Star Trek, It's like a lot of media. They just portray kids as being nothing but annoyances. And like, okay, I don't know, just like the whole bonk-bonk thing, just really got under my skin. I, I, okay. I don't like like baby talk and I don't like when, when, like in, in movies when people talk down to children or portray them as being subhuman. But I, I don't, I think in this situation, I disagree only because it's, it's not a circumstance where they just go to a planet and all the adults

died yesterday. This is like, they've been by themselves for 300 years going through this psychological torture aspect where as soon as you reach a certain point, you're gonna die. And so you kind of have to fend for yourself kind of environment. And I just, I, like there's no new children being born. So like the whole idea of like teaching probably isn't really there in the same sense. Do you think that in any point in the hundreds of years

that this group of children was a gang, that not one of them would have turned to little Petey over there and said, hey, Petey, cut the crap with the buck-buck. Oh. Whoa. Oh. But you're assuming that every single one of them

is in a sane mind. All it takes is one. That's fair. But that one person is gonna die then. Oh my God. No, think about it. Like if you're saying you try to start being the boss unless you have some sort of like authority

in a sense that they respect, they're just not gonna care. What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, to give him the clamps. Hey, you know what? So we're talking about the portrayal of kids, right? And the portrayal of kids that have been alive for 300 years. Now, they're obviously going to go through some type of mental change like Brad is suggesting or saying. Did you guys ever see interview with the vampire? Not a long time. Yeah, what was it um, person-dance character? Right. Yeah. So Kirsten Dunst, Mary Jane Watson, she was turned to a vampire as a kid and she didn't act like a kid the entire time because she had been a adult. Right. Because she had been alive for so long. There was like a few other I got dull, right? Cause you had been alive for so long.

There was like a few other vampire things of red where it's like a child drew kind of like thinking about like the expanse and like the children that were, oh crap, you stopped reading the book. So I'm gonna stop talking. Sorry. I read all the books. I plan to start going back to it pretty soon though.

But to Majid, your point though, I think though that associates with the fact that there were adults around. And so that changed the perception of the character because that she had somebody to imitate. And with the children on this, they didn't really have that authority to really imitate in that sense.

And I feel like it's just a natural direction when you're maybe potentially isolated or anything like that. And that was probably the direction they were trying to go in. Or they just didn't really want to take the time to write any lines for that person. So they're just like, oh, we'll just have them say dunk-dunk

I think that's it's it's bonk-bunk bonk bonk bonk. Sorry. Sorry Brad's gonna get the bonk bonk on the dunk-dunk in a moment You're okay with that sentence you're okay with that This is head His dunk-dunk is his head a final marker for it. No, fine, I'll mark it for edit. No, no, don't leave it, no leave it. No, no, you make your bed now sleeping in. Oh.

Prasya, get in his tongue thung. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Wow. Just just wow. I mean, McCoy and his scientific method. Any thoughts on it? It was brave.

Does he show any type of character development like that without the rest of the season or show? I mean, McCoy is generally a pretty badass character, in my opinion. What would you think, Brad? I know it should be, but the list was that, oh, may not know it should be. Could you just potentially further explain what you say scientific method, what you're referring to? How he tested the cure on himself. Oh, that, you see, like, I just thought of, um, was it the, uh, the movie contingent, like, that the actress did the exact same thing. And to me, that didn't surprise me. Um, because a combination of, like,

there was clear distraught between the characters at that point, they were, they were, as you mentioned, losing their stuff, man, they're losing their stuff. And so I think at that point, he just was like, yeah, I'm gonna go for it. I'm just gonna take the jab and see what happens. That's a hero moment though. Totally. Well, I mean, think about, you're about to die.

You have a 50-50 shot of, hey, either this is gonna kill me or it's not. I don't know, but either way, I'm gonna die. So either this is gonna kill me or it's not. I don't know, but either way, I'm gonna die. So either this is gonna kill me or Kirk's gonna kill me. Yeah, I know, right? So you're a core martial. That's the whole thing though. It's like, you know, if I tested on myself and I die,

then that's fine. If I live, then great, that means I'm cured. There was a, that, right right and he was obviously frustrated. The entire crew was by the way this ticking clock aspect of the episode and the anger flaring allowed for a lot of overacting from everyone. Yes, there's a ton of overacting. Guys, I have another fun fact. I'd like to share with you. Do we have theme music for your fun facts? Because I would like like, like, da, da, da, da, da, fun fact. I drew. I don't know. Something like that. No, you know. I don't. I'm sorry. But the boys that stole the communicator.

Apparently they were gracefully Whitney's children, Yomin Rand. The John, the right John. No, boy who stole communicator one and boy who stole communicator two. That their character name? Yeah, I thought it was all John who stole communicator to. That their character name? Or that's what it's like to strike. I thought it was all John who stole it. No, John was too big to fit through the thing.

He was too big to fit through that little cage. He was the one wearing the Army jacket, right? Yeah, yeah. Like they snuck in when the children distracted them, like all the guys left and then they're like, oh my God, they took our communicators and that's what happened. I would like to know. I would like to know.

Different episode from you guys. I mean, clearly something is off. We didn't watch Negaton. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. They were parts of this that I didn't pay as close attention to than others. But yeah, it just seems like the entire cast children. Yeah, you know, yeah, Hollywood has this tendency

of hiring a quote unquote child actors, but they're like 30. I would like to know if any of these kids were actually kids. Well, at least most of them. I mean, it sounds like there were hundreds of years old. I see if you did there. I see if you did there. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how he definitely looked like he was older. There was no way he was teenager. Yeah. Like, like Beverly Hills 90210, remember? They were like 16, but the Perry was 30.

Yeah, the guy who played John was born in 1939. So it would have been like 20-something at that point. Nice. That's a fun fact with Drew right there. Thank you Drew for that fun fact. Welcome, GD. There was a point where Kirk is yelling at the kids. Welcome, Jeannie. There was a point where Kirk is yelling at the kids and he, for a second, fell into that staccato where it was like, you kids, don't understand.

We're all gonna die. You're gonna die. I loved it. Listen, the yelling, the screaming, all of it was fantastic. That was a very good Kirk impersonation. I really thought Kirk was with lists right now. Kirsten, I would love to get William Shatner on this podcast and Drew needs to make it happen for me. Can you just like answer all your calls at work in that voice tomorrow? I don't want to take calls, but I can get on our bridge.

So I wanted to ask you guys on your opinion and thoughts. I don't know if you remember it. At some point, Yo Manran like pulls Kirk aside and it was like, I've always tried to get you to look at my legs. Do you do you remember that? Yeah. It was like I was kind of at a loss for words like that. I was like I was like wait what did she just say? I had to rewind it. And I was like yeah she did say that okay then. It was a little awkward to say the least. I mean, it was so funny. And like, here's the frustrating thing, like they

keep teasing, like this thing between the two of them. Yeah, it's the, it's the, it's the Ross and Rachel, the will they won't they? Yeah. But I think you said it drew one point, like at one point, like Rand was considered a love interest Wasn't that or did I read that somewhere or did I just dream it up? I don't know I might have made it up for you just to see if you say it on air. I Appreciate them Yeah, I mean, I would I would need to dive in further because at the moment I'm not really But that's kind of how it feels though like right like they they were trying to push some sort of love interest between Rand and Kirk.

Yeah, it always kind of feels that way. And like, I don't know. I think that kind of was like, I don't know, that didn't really sit well too much with me. I felt just an over sexualization to the character and then it cuts to her legs and it's like she's turning into, she has a disease. She's turning into one of those monsters and it's, I have very mixed feelings in that part. Yeah, I think the writing just didn't really live up to the intent. You know what I mean? Like yeah, yeah. I was uncomfortable when Mary referred to Kirk as lover boy.

Oh, and then, and then I was like, was it McCoy who was like, oh yeah, she's interested in you? Kimmer who was pointed that out. Yeah, and then her response, I'm not into older women. I'm like, how you gonna end the episode on that line? Oh, man. It's just so many writing points that I'm like, yeah, I'm not really

okay with nowadays. Yeah, I wonder what the original script was. Like, if that's out there, before the rewrites, I would be curious to see what the very first script was. Yeah, because it really did feel like there were a lot of ideas that were from a lot of different directions. And they kind of basically took parts and pieces of all those different ideas.

Yeah, I mean, that tends to happen with rewrites, unfortunately, you know, especially if other groups are responsible for the rewrites, they kind of get their DNA in it and it just doesn't really follow the same path as the original writer. And it's frustrating too because I think there was a lot of potential here for a pretty good story, but just kind of got marred with all these inconsistencies just in NETA. I didn't, I mean, you know, those inconsistencies aside, I'm a sucker for episodes with a ticking clock. I mean, that's every episode though. Is it though? It is a very big trend in a lot of the episodes. Well, I mean, enemy within was a ticking clock, right? Because the whole hey, if you don't get two curks back together, they're going to die. And then, right, that was the same one where...

Were no man's gone before? No, enemy within. That was the one I'm thinking of. That was the one where Sulu was left on a planet with a sleeping bag. Yeah, and evil curking the dog. Yeah, yeah. The poperanian. The poperanian. Enemy within, right? yeah, that's the one I'm thinking of. Yeah, I mean, the ticking time clock is kind of a trope that is used

pardon the pun time and time again. But but it happens that like a lot throughout each episode and some zones. I mean, it was where it happens in the other series too. It's not going to be exclusive to this or really any TV. I think that's the one thing that does frustrate me about TV in general when they do have the taking time clock and then they resolve the issue with that like one second left on all the time because realistically it's not going gonna be every time is that one second. I mean, maybe it's gonna be like 17 seconds before or 23 seconds before And that's kind of how sometimes they should probably change the the plot point where it just it changes the pace. Yeah, imagine if they solve the issue like five minutes in Before the cold open they pull up to this planet. They're like, we're talking about your life forms down there.

The Kirk's like, yeah, maybe later. Well, it's, you know, it kind of sums it to the end that way too. Like they resolve their issue and then they're like, oh, cool, yeah, we'll get to those children at a later point. Starfleet's been known. Right, right. And then McCoy's like you're gonna send the jail right By the way they almost killed us oh

And it's you know the thing is too true. It's it's it's an entire planet I'm I'm pretty certain that there are other children around the planet that need some sort of help. Yeah, the whole abandoning. The whole abandonment is she. The kids. There's the girls' kids. We're like, we're good. Peace.

We're gonna go call your mothers. We're going to the bar and get some drinks. We'll be back. No, they say, yeah, you know what? We're just going to the ship to get a lot of tickets to Syrias. We'll be right back. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, God. But that's how it ends. And I was just kind of like, seriously, that's where we're leaving it. Not like, oh, the children have already been taken care of. They have already gotten the help. It's just more of like, ah, I don't know, we're gonna leave.

I'm pretty sure they're good. I guess they left a medical team down there. You assume, you assume that they've left a medical team. That's what the memory alpha is saying. They also left the red shirts because screw those guys. Yeah, I know, right? I don't know. This episode was just kind of a mess.

And I guess I guess I kind of know how you're going to skew your rating. Then, you know, I just kind of hear in your, uh, your pain and not. Yeah, I mean, well, let's dive into it. You guys have anything else that you wanted to talk about or you want to move on to, uh, to the ratings? I would just want to say how sucky those security guys are. Spockers says, hey, cover me. And no, no, I admit, man, hey, they survived.

Listen, they, listen, they survived. But Spockers like, hey, cover me and they just look up. They survived because of inaction. Right. If those kids, listen, if those kids had shanks or guns, they'd be gun. Dunn. If the rock was in this episode, it'd be done.

Ha, ha, ha, ha. Oh, thank God for the rock. Right, if there were killbots, they would've been done. You know, is a myriad of reasons why these Richards is alive. All right, let's let's bring her home guys. Let's go around the horn here. Brad, what are your final thoughts of your score? So looking at the episode as a whole,

they get to a planet that is a mirror-identical version of Earth and then yet never talk about it again. They have a disease on a planet filled with just children. They cure to the disease and then they leave the planet without saving or helping the children being like, yeah, Starfleet will get to them. We're good. Ah, gosh, like this, like, I think if it wasn't for some of the most ridiculousness, it would be a little bit higher for me, but this was probably about like a five. Wow.

Wow. Wow. Wow. It just, like I enjoyed it, but there's so much ridiculousness that I could definitely tell that there was a rewrite or at least multiple rewrites. There was a lot of ideas that kind of fell,

fell, you know, fell out of my touch point where I just couldn't get it. And I think the only reason, I was paying attention a lot to the episode. And I think the only reason why I paid so much attention is because there was a lot of WTF moments where I'm like, I don't I don't understand why they're doing this. This doesn't make sense. And I think that kind of was why I was able to be more alert with it. But yeah, I didn't I was yeah, not that creative an episode for me. Wow. JD, what do you think? I am, I'm gonna, I

diametrically oppose Brad on this one. I enjoy the episode. I listen, I was along for the ride. Like I said, time and time again, I'm a sucker for ticking clocks. I am, I was loving the overacting. They, they hand it up. Kirk got his moment. He got to fight, he got to punch the living, you know, crap out of, out of a guy. He, listen, he almost fought a kid.

You remember this? He, he was, listen, he knocked a kid into the wall, but he could have easily, easily punched that kid in the face. But he showed restraint. Didn't he shoot a guy, by the way? Didn't he stun someone? They still died.

Yes. That was like one of the other friends who turned into the, like who aged unfortunately too old. Yeah. Listen, I, I loved it. Listen, I was along for the ride. Brad, I, I, I, I, I, I mentally oppose you on, on your five. And I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go two points higher.

I'm gonna give it a seven. Okay. I, I, I got, I loved it, man. Just, oh, and we got a rip shirt, by the way, we got a rip shirt from Kirk. But but he's not like shirtless. Does it count? I stopped. I completely forgot to keep track of these by the way. We saw we saw a skin. Okay. Now, Mijid supposed to be taking track of the shirts. I got well, that was because of naked time I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm? I'm leaning more towards the land of Brad on this episode. I liked it better than last week's what little girls made of. This this episode didn't bore me in the same way,

but it was pretty ridiculous and I just strongly disliked the way the children were portrayed wrongly disliked the way the children were portrayed. And it's, it's a me problem. It's not a Star Trek problem. I understand that. But it just, I don't find that entertaining when gangs of children are portrayed in that manner. I don't like the, I feel like the love story that they have going with Rand is just a little bit forced. It just comes off as like they're really pushing it down our throats, but there's not really enough there. But McCoy was pretty cool, I guess. So, to go back to my original formula for ranking, if this were on and I were channel

surfing, I'd probably leave it on, but I'd probably play on my phone the whole time. So I think I'm going to give this like a four. Oh, okay. All right. How about this? How about let's not set that in stone yet. One of your complaints is you don't like the portrayal of the kids. Yeah.

What if I told you that instead of considering how Hollywood is portraying these kids? Why not instead compare the portrayal of these kids and this gang with their leader to how the lost boys were in Never Neverland. Perfectly pan. It wasn't really crazy about that either if I'm being honest. Really? Yeah. Right. Yeah, because I mean, listen, the original Peter Pan, Cartoon, and then of course, in the 90s with Hook, these kids were, what I have to assume on this world, does other, but dimension, right? So these kids were in this

Never Never Land Dimension, where they never grew old, and they acted like kids, like kids, bangering. I like to be clear, like I enjoyed the movie Hook because I think it was well written and Robin Williams is wonderful. But the parts with the lost boys were like my least favorite parts. Okay. All right. Fine. What about Little Rascals? No. Really? No. Hmm. Okay. What about the other portrayal kids? What are the kids we have that are also gangs? What was that movie where they're like uh, uh, uh, warriors. Yeah, what about the warriors never saw it? No, they were a gang. They were really kids. That was a legitimate gang All right. All right. All right. Last one last one. What about the peanuts? What about the peanuts? Trolley Brown. All right, all right, last one, last one. What about the peanuts? What about the peanuts?

Trolley Brown. Trolley, choke. That's a cartoon. And they have more intelligent conversations than anything we saw in this episode. Yeah, but Snoopy definitely carried a Switch Play. But Snoopy's a dog. So he's allowed to carry a Switch Play?

Yes. Okay, fine. Okay, all right, all right. Last gang, the act of like kids. Breaking to All right. All right. All right. Last gang that act like kids. Breaking to electric boogaloo. What a horrible film. These kids can't believe you brought that up. If this gang of children just danced away the virus, then everything would have been better. Dance away your problems, baby.

than everything would have been better. Dance away your problems, baby. Oh, God. So is there any way I can, I wanna be able to raise your review of this. Brad's maybe not so much, because Brad's points, you know, their Brad's points. And trying to convince Brad is like, just so you know, GD, you and me,

we're currently averaging a six for our overall scoring Sure Drew has a five for average Jersey one that talk isn't to doing this by the I'm aware we're along with this I Because it's you I Love bad films That's fair. I get that and they their fun. That is a bad writing. Yeah. Yeah. Because because you had both in this episode. Have you guys seen

Velocipaster yet? It's wonderful. No, but I've saw a Kung Fury. Oh, that was a great film. Kung Fury. What's one was Kung Fury again? That's the poster ridiculous one. We'll talk about that later. but that is you got to watch. That's a podcast or another podcast. All right, so this, man, Drew, I was really hoping I was able to, listen, I said I have my, my smoking gun right here. I can get Drew to rates his opinion.

And this friggin guy hates the lost boys. He hates the lost boys from never, never. Listen, honestly, Midgey, though, like, I, your, your excuse was actually the reason why I didn't do it any lower than the five is because that is, I actually thought about that stuff when I was thinking about my, my scoring for it. I was really hoping Drew that I was, I, I could raise your opinion of this episode. I really was. I was counting on it. I have my smoking gun. I was, I was there for it. But, um, counting on it, I have my smoking gun. I was there for it. But

right, where are we? I think you and I are closer in terms of average average at six. I mean, like here's the thing though, like for me, I think that my scores are harsher across the board, than yours. And Drew, it's okay. You can hate Star Trek. It Drew, it's okay. You can hate Star Trek. It's, it's not a problem. Hey, Drew, let me ask you, buddy. Are you in some way, shape or form, maybe trying to compare the original series against

the immaculate TNG? Oh, TNG is by far from it. It was not immaculate. It was not immaculate. There are episodes that I cannot wait to tear into with you. Right, but is there is there some level in your mind that you're like, man, this was, which wouldn't have happened on TNG? Well, of course there is. It's impossible for me to separate the totality of the series completely. I'm always going to have the other hundreds of episodes that I've watched in the back of my mind. But I'm doing my best

to judge this on its own merits. And I know that maybe I'm not living up to, you know, your expectations with that, but, you know, go ahead. No, I was just going to say, like, I think you're, you're reasoning about the chosen, I can understand that. No, did any of the points that I bring up kind of resonate with you as well? Do those things bother you? Which ones? Like, it's a fact that they're like, hey, duplicate earth, not gonna talk about it. Yeah, well, hey, we got children.

We're gonna leave them on the planet. Yeah, I mean, those things, I would say, weighed more heavily than they did for you, you know, which is why I scored it a point less. You know, there were a lot of plot threads that were just abandoned completely. Like time travel. I think to your point though, Drew,

is like, it makes sense. Like the portrayal of the children didn't bother me. But it bothered you more so than it did me. So therefore, that's one added little detractor towards it. So it makes sense. Yeah, yeah, well, you're coming. To be completely clear, like, I'm not grading the episode solely on the child gang of duplicate earth. Like, I'm grading

the episode as a whole. And you know, it just didn't really land for me. Did you like children of the corn? Never saw it. Yeah, buddy. That's that's, that is really far from Star Trek. We're not helping me here though. I mean, that was a gang, right? Were they gang? I never saw the movie either. I'm assuming that they were. And they worshiped.

No, no, they weren't a gang. They weren't the gang of corn children. Uh, you know, it's fine. I'll look it up on a Wikipedia. Maybe I won't. I'm going to get sidetracked. Listen, I am horrible at searching stuff in Wikipedia, but I need to hear it. You did find quite a few children gangs.

No, that's all the top of my head. All right, let's let's Google this. I want to find this. Child gangs in movies. Oh, boy,'re, you're going to get flagged. You're, you're sure you're going to get. All right, the first list that comes up is, includes Harry Potter, Ron Weasley, Hermione Granger. They want to, it's not a gang. No, no, they are a gang. They, listen, they were Tarenop Griffin door. They were, up Griffin door they were they they were tearing up Hogwarts man

They were a menace Sorry, you know what that's another podcast for the day. It's fine. Anyway All right, we locked up Any anything else you guys want to add before we wrap this thing up for the evening There's another earth out there. I knew it. I was right. We'll never speak of it together. No, I'm not. No, that's it. Never going to talk about it. It's gone for just like the time travel. Time travel exists. They

went back this is this in three days before like it happened. We can't take it away. And I are in a safe page with this. Anyway, so next week, we have a bit of a conundrum, right? As the listeners are aware, as we stated earlier, recording this on April 5th, 2022. This episode is going to drop just two days before the debut of Strange New Worlds. And we've decided that we're going to, we're going to talk about that show. You guys excited? Yeah. Listen, I, listen, I got, we got to compare the newest and the oldest

in the same time. No, you know what? I, I saw the preview of, of, of Anson Mount as Pike with a beard. I'm there for it. I want, I want that show and be. I want that beard. That's my pike. So that's my pike. I have I have some good news for you guys, right?

So based on our recording schedule, we're going to do a little bit of inside baseball here for the the dear listeners. So we're going to continue to record the next few weeks of the original series, right? I think that's the plan. You know it. We are going to watch the Menagerie parts one and two before Strange New World's episode one drops. Oh, no way.

That's gonna be awesome. In fact, the Menagerie part two is scheduled the week of the story. The first part of the story is the first part of the story. The first part of the story is the first part of the story. The first part of the story is the first part of the story. The first part of the story is the first part of the story. one is gonna hit. Majid, you are going to get to see the full story of Christopher Pike in the original series.

Man, listen, I think we've talked about it. I fell off on Discovery when Pike was no longer a factor. When Pike was no longer on that show, I stopped watching it. So this is gonna be great, man. Mm-hmm. Yeah, Mr. Mr. Blackbolts himself be in human and to mount. Oh, yeah, I remember that. I'm looking forward to this though like honestly, it's I'm really looking forward to the the strangers of worlds that I'm hoping it kind of recaptured some of the Star Trek magic that we've been missing. Yeah, I'm looking forward. I will say one thing that I really enjoyed with the new Star Trek series.

Lensflair? No, there's a movie thing. Everything feels pretty different. You know, all of the shows kind of have a unique identity to them. So, I'm hoping that that continues with Strange New Worlds. Unfortunately, we don't know what the episode title is yet, because it hasn't been announced as far as I'm aware. So, as for us, next week we'll be watching Dagger of the Mind, but you guys won't hear that until like, I don't know July or August or something

July 19, yes Subject to change, but that's the plan So on that note, I would like to thank everybody for listening I'd like to thank Majeed and Brad for being a part of their own gang Thank Majeed and Brad for being a part of their own gang. I couldn't, I couldn't hold him up. I mean, if you're a gang of one, you're really a gang. My gang is called Solo.

I'm Solo. Bye everybody. Demar. You're five, low. Bye everybody. Demarit. Give five everybody. Bye. Thanks for listening to yet another Star Trek podcast. We are a part of the Retro Sessions Network. In this episode was recorded on April 5, 2022.

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