Yet Another Star Trek Podcast - Ep 031: (TOS S01E18) Arena

Episode Date: November 8, 2022

This week, The Gang is truly inspired by the episode Arena and fight to the death. Majeed grabs a battle axe as he hosts, Drew takes on a spear as he tries to impale the editing, and Brad wields a shield as he defends his synopsis writing. Tune in to find out who survives, cause there can truly only be one! Be sure to check out our website, social media, and join our Discord! Links for all are listed below: Website | Discord | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | TikTok | YouTube Drop us an email at [e-mail]! “Warp Speed” and "To the Stars" was written and performed by William Grobbelaar Music: https://soundcloud.com/williamgrobbelaarmusic Additional artwork by George Rateau: https://www.fiverr.com/georgerateau

The boys are back in town, the boys are back in town! Guys, what a weird way to start the episode. But here we are. It's October 17, 2022. I have not seen my boys drew and read in months on recording podcast, Face to Face ish. I can really tell that you haven't seen us so much because you completely stumbled

on my name there. Hey, well, I mean, you are, you're, he's like, what is his name again? So here's the thing. Is it Frank's? Brad, Brad had a baby allegedly and he kind of dropped off the face of discord and he didn't message us for weeks. We saw our buddy Wayne more than we saw Brad sometimes, which is off-putting because we know we can see Wayne once every four night.

Yeah, Wayne usually will drop in and read up a bunch of posts that he missed, respond to all of them at the same time, and then vanish again for like another, you know, two weeks. Yeah. And by the way, I'm seeing Brad's baby face. And I'm forgetting if Brad ever had stubble. And I'm not sure if he just shaved because of the baby or I think his shape is always no, no, no, he shaved for us because the photos that he's been he's sharing. Yeah, he looked to shevelled. He looked like he doesn't sleeping. Like maybe he was drinking might have put a little whiskey in the He's sharing. That's not the secret, yeah. He looked to sheveled, he looked like he doesn't sleeping, like maybe he was drinking, might have put a little whiskey in the baby's food

and took a couple of sip himself. But, you know. I'm definitely sure that his wife put whiskey in his food. I have, I have shaved for the podcast. Well, even though the listeners can't see us, I've shaved for this. Well, specifically. I got enough of a beard for both of you,

so you're welcome. I have beard. Yeah, you got like a line. I have so many. You have a line. It's a well-manicured line. It's a very attractive line. But, I mean, let's be completely honest here.

If we're talking beard lines here, beard texture. I mean, can the listeners hear this? I don't know if they can, but if you're into A microphone's good. Your microphone's not that good. Just rub your cheek against the microphone. Everybody will hear everything. We're not, this is not that kind of podcast. This is the truth.

This is the truth. It's true it's true or cat now. Speaking of which, before we started recording, you told me that Metro was here. Yeah, I'll see you. I was, well, now we're sitting on the sofa watching TV and Metro was nestled right between my legs, which is like his favorite spot. And he was completely asleep. It was very adorable.

He's a sweetheart. He adorable. He's a sweetheart. He is. He's a very well-dressed sweetheart. He is. He's cute, pal. Sweet going to sweetheart, Brad, buddy. Your father, you're a daddy. You're not quite a daddy.

You're not a daddy, but you're a daddy. He's my son. No, I'm not a daddy, but daddy is 100% correct, yes. Yes. Oh, no, I'm not a, I'm not a daddy, but daddy is 100% correct, yes, yes. Oh man, it's such a very unique experience being a father. Yeah. I am equally rewarded and exhausted at the same time. Yeah, blink twice if you're under the dress.

Yeah, the listener can't hear us, but Brad's a little bit sign that says, help me. Of course. No, no, I'm loving it. It's great. I have a beautiful baby girl. She's absolutely the world for me right now. To your point, unfortunately, Discord has a second fiddle,

so to speak, to this little lady. And she's very demanding, needing to be changed and fed and burped, just kind of like you, Armageddon, when you were tired. So, how is the baby doing, Brad? Because you just you just described doing great. Okay. Baby's doing great. Baby's doing great. But but no, it's it's great though. I'm enjoying it. My wife is doing well and we're we're totally sleep deprived and and uh, enjoying our darling daughter with every moment we can.

There's a gift that I used to love to show how exhaust that I was and it's from Rick and Morty. And the episode is like a Rick toxic something but it's Rick and Morty in their spaceship and they're swimming out of pure exhaustion. And that's what I have to imagine being a parent in 2020, as he was. Yeah, I think I remember that episode

where they're just kind of like, they finish their whatever they're doing and they're just like, oh my god. Yeah. And that's, that's pretty close to how I feel at times. Well, I can't imagine it's changed that much since you and your wife had your baby, Mijid. It's been 11 years.

Yeah, but I mean, like that was before pandemics were a norm, a staple. Pandemics and inflation. Inflation is over. All simple times. No, no, no, no. But I can tell you this much, my wife is the overly paranoid of the two of us for the parents. You know how one parent tends to be like,

ah, the baby will be fine. The other one's like, oh, don't do that. That's gonna cause a problem. And my wife is the overly paranoid one between us. And so I'm changing her. My wife looks at me like, don't do that. You're changing her wrong. You're going to hurt the baby. I'm like, how? I'm I'm changing her my wife looks and he's like don't do that. You're changing her wrong You're going to hurt the baby. I'm like how I'm wiping the butt

Tell her that While she was asleep after the baby was born that technically made you have seniority and you now have more hours parenting than she does So pull that card if you have to that's gonna go over go over well. That's that's that's a I feel like that's trap. Bad idea. Just do it. Bad idea. No, do it. Who's the parent hairdryer? Bad idea. It's been very longer. Who's been married longer? Drew? Yeah, trap. Okay. Got it. Good job.

trap. Bait bouncing baby bread. Lena needs a dog. Well, we've we've talked about getting a new addition to the family. And if the child wants to have a pet of sorts, they're more than welcome to have one, but they must present a case and argument as to why they should get said animal. That is no way to talk about having a second child, Brad. Ha ha ha ha. Do we have a rimshot sound that you can edit into this true?

BAM! Yes. But I'm bummed. OK, great. Oh, my God. Frank's is going to appreciate it. He will. Oh, April.

Man, yeah, so that's great, Brad. I'm happy that when your baby is ready, she can request either a pet and or another sibling. Another sibling is probably not gonna be in the cards. It's the entire time my wife's like, please, please, if I ever talk about having another child, remind me of this. That was the entire experience of the

labor portion and even before. It was not a fun, fun experience for my wife. I can tell you that much. Well, if you need a shining example of what your child could be as an only child, all you have to do is look at me Brad, because I'm an only child. And clearly I have turned out just fine. I don't want to say that Drew is well adjusted as an only child, but if you look closely, you can see that he's overcomplicating by having all this video games stuff. So clearly something's missing in Drew's life. No know I am all on only child to right. Have you seen what's in back of you right now? Yeah, it's a Christian decorations. You have Christmas decorations.

That Christian. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on, hold on. What was that, Brad? I'm an only child to what after that? I heard that part. No, but we said we did. Mejita was behind me and I said to pile a junk behind me. I thought you said that was a pile of junk. Oh, it's not.

It's not. It's not. No, no, no, no. Yours is a pile of precious collectibles that I truly envy and desire myself, but we'll never have. It is also, it's also kind of a pile of junk.

Yeah. Yeah. Brad, is the baby in the room with you are you blocking? No, no the baby I thought I saw like would appear to be like the feet of a baby in the swing There's this thing which which is like part of the stroller and then that right there is a giant pillow for Well beam bag pillow that I can lay in. And why did you take the window out of the window? Oh, that's broken.

So you could just jump right out of the house. When I bought the house, I paid a contractor to repair my window because there was a, it's a double-paying window and there's this giant crack across like the, the side. And so I was like, I went through this company called punchless, they hire a contractor. They're punchless. It's like, yeah, yeah, you can definitely go ahead and repair this. So they, we hire the contractor. And so the contractor comes, he's like, takes

it to a few, a glass, um, places. And they're all like, yeah, yeah, of course, you just got to pop the glass out and we can we can repair But in his progress to go and repair it as he starts to take off the glass It just starts to shatter everywhere wait and so instead of having a double pain it was a single pain So you found a guy on a site called punchless Punch list did he just punch the windows? Yeah, you feel good about that joke? I feel real good about it. Yeah, let's let's give it to Frank since he would he decide. In hindsight, like we are far removed from that joke. Do you

still feel good about it? Yeah. Alright, so you know what? Anyways, without window, what happened was there's shards of glass all around the outside of the area that he took apart. And I kind of flipped out on the company punch list because they're just like, yeah, we can't actually like fix it. We'll have to charge you more. And so after, you know, losing my cool on the the rep, I eventually called Home Depot and they replaced it for, I think it was a $100 cheaper than what that company was even like offering to repair it.

And so I have a brand new window and the frame and everything. If I may offer a suggestion in the future by, go to a glass maker. What? They have glass to a glass maker. What? They have glass makers, like glass people. People who have been there. Yeah, it would have cost me so much more to just go to that instead of just replacing it.

It only cost me like 200 bucks. How much? 200. Is that a lot of money, do you? No, that's not a lot of money. I say it only cost me $200. Oh, so it's not a lot of money, do you think they quoted me a thousand dollars to replace the window because they couldn't fix it then that was a lot of money Look all I'm saying is I want to get to a point in my life where I can say oh

This is only $200 like Brad missed the money bags over here. What's going on your bathroom right now? I'm not in my bathroom. I'm not asking what's that just let's You said you said it was a photo of a bathroom that was completely gutted And in a truck full of tile and toilets and sinks And I know I know in my heart of hearts that that stuff was probably not $200 or less So I started only fans. Was it just shots of your shoulders or? It's the pebble.

Feet, the pebble. Feats, fans. It's feet. Feats, stuff. Let me show you. Please, please. Oh, God. Oh, you can't see the foot in there.

We got some. We got some. Kind of likes it. So we got that going for us. Yeah, you're kind of like just like, like, like, like, like, like, them and, you know, get the peanut butter off it when you put it on. A little fat peanut butter. Crunchy.

Um, so like, five minutes before we were going to, um, record tonight, we were the contract the contractor was still there. It's almost eight o'clock by the way, it's past eight o'clock. And the contractors were still demolishing the wall because they found mold and we said, all right, the screw in, let's just take it down to the studs. We weren't going to take it down to the studs before, but we ended up taking it down to the studs. Yeah, if there's mold. So, yeah, so we're going to, you know, spray it, scrub it, give it a day, let it air out. That should kill the mold spores. And then, you know, at that point, I think Wednesday, they're going to come back and start

putting stuff on the wall like the back report and things like that. But I'm really excited for a new bathroom that I can essentially poop in. So you have particular problems with pooping and current said bathroom before it was renovated? No, everybody likes a new place to experience pooping, And this is gonna be no different. I just, you know, everyone wants to try everybody else's toilet. You know, I've never had one side of situation where I said to myself,

gee, I wish I had a new place to poop in. You're not living life, brother. I have to agree on Drew with that one. I think that's not a situation I've ever really ran into. But you know what though, next time I'm over your house, I will make sure to try out that new toilet. Yep, the first poop is free. Thanks.

I'm going to get a pay for it. If I can get some jerk chicken to help me out, that might be even better. Well, Wayne will never hear that request because he never listens to our podcast, because he's a loser. I've just thrown it out there. So, Brad, tell me this, when you were doing house hunting, did you not picture yourself in that bathroom pooping?

I can assure you that when I was looking for a house, it wasn't the, hmm, hmm. Could I poop here? Is this the pooping place I truly desire? You know, you're totally missing out there. To be fair, when we bought our house, I kind of did because the toilet that was in the house was a round seat, and all guys know you need an oval seat.

That's what we got. You need an oval seat. I have two bathrooms in my house, oval and a round. And I can assure you when I do the round bathroom, that is totally gang change. Yep. After a leg day, it's probably easier to have a round toilet bowl, I think. So you have something supporting your body because after leg day, you are destroyed. Do you use the squatty potty.

You need a walker. You need a walker after like that. I am, I, so Spartan race is less than a month away. If you're listening to this, it's October 17th. I said that. So Spartan race is November 19th. And I'm super excited, obviously. I keep telling you to sign up, you won't sign up. But

that means that you have to change things and the training is getting harder and diet gets more strict and with the training getting harder, leg day gets harder. So I decided, hey, I'm going to try the rocks workout, the rocks leg day, big mistake,. Big big mistake. I couldn't I couldn't get up from my bed 24 hours later. That's how bad it was. Well, that's perfect for the Spartan race because at some point you're gonna have to crawl on your hands and knees under barbed wire or some crazy shit. Yeah, maybe yeah, I know that there's a portion of this where there's wall climbing and one thing that I trained for specifically last week was the hundred pound sandbag carry. So I picked up a hundred pound dumbbell, which was problematic to begin with. Does this the race where they electrocute you throughout the race at some point?

That's tough. That's tough. That's tough. That's S&M. You're thinking of something entirely different. No, no, tough. That's SNM. You're thinking of something entirely different. You're thinking of the top motor, the top motor electrocute you when you're walking through this water area,

they have these wires that are exposed and they just give you slight jolt when they touch it. Yeah, it's basic. It's like livestock fencing. Who wants that? People that are just never mind. Anyway. There is a rock climbing gym near my job, by the way. I would love to climb the rock.

Yeah, he's only there on Tuesdays. You didn't miss a beat. He just kept going with it. Meanwhile, Brad's like, I hate you guys. I'm going to go have another baby. Yeah, yeah, I'll be going, I'll be going, gone do that guys. I'll catch you later. I won't leave you for six months. So when does the last time we record it back in July? August 22nd actually. So we had a couple of false starts trying to record this episode. I can't take Drew seriously when he's combing his beard and eyebrows.

Yeah, I get it. It's so... You know, I look away for a second. I saw the beard combing, but now he's combing his eyebrows and I'm like, wow, that's a near level. No, I'm just feeling loopy. I don't know what the hell's going on. I don't usually do that.

This I always do. Because your wife is such a lucky lady. Yeah, I got a man in Krumsum Sack so much so much. I guess they you know the luscious beard has to stay luscious. Luscious. I bet you shampooing condition that thing knows you. Oh yeah. I even have like your shampoo. I have beard oil. It's for the skin. It's for the skin, conditions the skin. All right. So we, I got a power through that. I can't, I can't do it. But we've tried to record this episode a couple of times.

We've had a couple of false starts so much so that we ended up watching this episode months ago, yeah, August, episode arena. Yeah. So I was fortunate enough to watch it again tonight before we record it. Oh, boy. And yeah, no, I'm hoping that if I need to, I can take Brad and Drew on my shoulders and drag them through this. Brad, officially, because I see nothing behind his eyes right now. I just nothing there. Oh, hey, buddy, I was hoping to watch it before we recorded, and it just didn't work out.

It's all right. It's all right. It's only been almost like two months. It's like a month and a half. I can tell you this much. When I started watching it again, a lot came back. I'm pretty sure once we started talking about it,

we're going to be watching, surely, right? a lot came back. So I'm pretty sure once we started talking about it, we're gonna be watching Shirley's, right? That's what it was. No, I thought it was Squier of Goathos. Guys, don't do that to me, cause I watched Arena. No. Oh, that's right. That's right.

The Rock episode got it. Yeah, is that the one where he rock bottom seven and nine? Clearly, yeah, when you say rock bottom, do you mean oh my god? That was that was deep space night, right? No Voyager, Star Trek forager, and it wasn't actually the rock bottom in the middle of the episode. Yeah, he had like He had like the ridges on his forehead. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So as we said, this week we watched the watched Arena where we start with what seems to be an innocent away mission. Kirk Spock McCoy, three other expendable crew members being down to an outpost. It becomes immediately clear that something is wrong with the outpost

in his ruins. Both the away team and the crew of the Enterprise are attacked. Kirk orders the Enterprise away to protect these like, shoot, shoot, go, go, goodbye. Leave me here. But come back for me. It's an all out war for the awaiting. An unknown alien force is shelling the planet left and right. Kirk uses a makeshift grenade launcher. What's that makeshift? I have no idea. No, it was, he kind of pulled it out of his, he pulled it out of somewhere, right? Yeah, well, I don't think it was a makeshift one No, it was, he kind of pulled it out of his, he pulled it out of somewhere, right? Yeah, I don't think it was a makeshift one, but it was definitely like there.

It wasn't one that, I don't think they brought it with them. I think like it was, Well, they were at an outpost, so it may have been the remains. Yeah, I think it was combat- I think it was somebody like, you know, that had been defending the outpost. Yeah, because, you know, those things just lay around all over place. Yeah, right. So know, those things just lay around all over

place. Right. So Kirk is like, he, I mean, there was a number of times where he did some pretty well executed combat roles. So I'm sure that when he did combat roles, I was sure that one of these combat roles got him to where the grenade launcher was. Kirk orders a crew to follow the escaping alien ship. With one soul survivor, Kirk attempts to get some answers as to what's going on. Kirk speculates that the whole ploy was trapped to get the enterprise to leave the area of space helpless and understand the Federation's trait. They follow the alien ship trying to find a way to prevent them from making it to their home planet. Against the advice of Scotty, Kirk pushes the ship towards warp eight.

What's the maximum warp on these ships now? Well, so that's kind of a gray area at this point. Isn't that something where they're like, hey, let's go this speed. Next week, we're going to change what that speed is entirely. Yeah, so they didn't really nail down what the warp scale was until in the next generation. Generally speaking, warp 9.0 something is around the highest. 6 or 7. It depends on the ship, but most ships can do like around nine five nine six nine seven as the maximum

Ultimately Warp speed is really just this speed of plot. So basically Warp factors on The inner prize ship is like the fast and furious movies Just you get crazy and crazy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, okay. That's about all right Yeah, I think at one point they even changed like the speed because they were like, oh no, we need to make it go faster. And we don't really want to rename the warp speeds.

So we'll just change what the speed can actually go. Well, like it's, if your ship is capable of doing warp 9.5 as your maximum and you're in outer space, why would you ever want wanna do anything less than the maximum? Why would you wanna do warp five or warp three, or warp six? It doesn't make sense to me. Like, oh yeah, it's gonna take us three weeks at warp five to get where we're going, but at warp nine

it will get there in two days. I have to imagine it's because they don't want to stress the ship too much. I guess? That's the only thing I can think of too because they don't want to stress the ship too much. I guess. That's the only thing I can think of too. I don't know. I mean, also, I mean, if you're going from one planet to another and they're in pretty close proximity, you're not going to want to go balls out to the wall, warp nine. You don't drive 80 miles per hour from your house to the store.

Hey, true. You have, you have like families in your area, like little kids. They should get out of my way. Hey, what's that occurred? Who cares? I'm going 65 This is a real bumpy road. What is it? Oh, it's This is a real bumpy road. What is it? Oh, it's a school trip. Children. Oh, I did it.

School trip. Why is Brad laughing at this? He just had a kid. Hey, you have the one that's in the school. That's fair. That's fair. All right, so enterprise passes in the air slowest and it's seemingly skating the enterprise.

All while the alien ships start to head away, without warning, the alien ship starts to slow down. And they count it down to, hey, warp six, five, four, three, one. And he skips numbers. That bugged me. Kurt prepares the ship for battle, but the Enterprise suddenly is stopped too.

Spock points out that the unidentified solar system is holding both ships. The enterprise is hailed by the psychedelic metrons, advised that Kurt and the capital of the other alien ship will fight to the death. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. The winner will leave, the losers will be destroyed. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. I don't know, Drew, it felt right. The music, so you know, tend to spice it up in post or don't. I appreciate you. I love you, the way. I think you did a pretty great job on your own.

I'm gonna let that just sit and let it go. All right. Just gonna actually sample it and then just make that, the sound going forward. It makes some new drops out of it. Love it. I want to cut. Alright. Kirk disappears and finds himself on a mysterious planet

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I was a hundred percent on board with this episode from jump. Until that moment. Yeah. I want to, I want to revisit the fight. I have, I have, I have notes. Yeah. Um, this is a short live fight and clear the lizard man wants to make out with Kirk. By the way, the lizard man, the Goran, did want to make out with Kirk.

There's a meme about this. There's so many memes about the Goran and Kirk, and I cannot wait to share that with the world. Please stop shipping the Goran and Kirk. No promises. Kirk throws the rock at Captain Goran. Oh, sorry. A rock. And learning from this, the Gorn, the Captain of the Gorn ship, throws a bigger rock.

He's like, oh, that's a good trash. I'll throw a bigger one. Just wrong caliber. The crew of the Enterprise try to figure out a way to set themselves free from their stuck position, but they're unable to do so. Back in the planet, Kirk finds some bamboo and crystals, but doesn't know what to do with it. The Gorn, however, is building some sort of wily coyote contraption.

Kirk keeps going back to what Metron said, that there would be weapons on the planet. Metron was not here. Oh, I see if she did there. If Metro was there, things, glasses would have been dropped off the edge of a cliff. He spots the gorn and a giant rock over his head. Kirk pushes a rock. Oh, a rock or the rock, because you got to stop teasing me this way back. The rock that is above his head off of a ledge. If the rock was over my head too, I probably push him off. No, would I?

No, I'm not a rock of them. That's some of a conversation for a different day for a different therapist. But Kirk pushes a rock over the edge crushing the goal. Kirk's victory is short-lived when the gorn gets up seemingly uninfected. Kirk races away and falls into a trap set by the other captain When the Gorn attempts to kill Kirk He basically lets him go because that man is way too slow to do anything Like any millennial

Kirk keeps tweeting his day Right cuz he's he's updating his captains lot, right? Yeah, he is. He's tired. Metrons go even further in broadcast to fight like a paper view. This is why I got to read. I'm not sure if I should be reading this live for the very first time, doing recording or if I should be proofreading this and laughing way ahead to get out of my system. A little bit of both.

Oh god, I love you Brad, I missed you. Kirk manages to construct the weapon to fight the gorg. What type of weapon you may ask? Well, he builds up a Zuko with diamonds, with diamond and crystal ammo. Stunning the gorg in captain. But when he has a chance to kill the Goron, he rejects the idea and walks away, because that's smart, right? Just, you know, turn you back in your enemy. The Goron vanishes and a metron appears. He explains that by showing

mercy, his race has potential. Kirk appears back and boy, the Enterprise, and everyone decides to do as they always do do and act like it never happened. Despite the fact that Metrons have transported him to another part of the galaxy, to which they have to then double back to their original destination anyway. The Salk Disepisode, adult gorn are really bad fighters and Kirk likes the life tweet from time to time. And the Metrons are not clearly related to Drew's cat Metro. Oh, thank God. Do you know who the metron reminded me of by the way? No. Stewart from Matt TV. Oh my God, while I was drinking Jesus Christ. Yeah, yeah, there's a hot source spot on even thing right until you said that. I expected the the metron to say,

look what I can do. It's such if you get, if you don't get the reference, just pause, look up Stewart, Matt TV, I'll wait, I'll wait right here. Okay. See what I mean? It looks just like. Right. No, it looks just like. But gee, that was, that was some, some sort of an episode. I wasn't a guy's. Yeah. It was. It was such an episode. I wasn't a guys. Yeah, it was it was such an episode that fight

So I'm only I didn't know what to expect from the Gorn making his weapon when he comes out with basically a dagger Like he was so hard at work just for a dagger Yeah hardest to move around in that costume I Yeah, hard to just move around in that costume. I so have a question for you guys. I don't know about you, but this episode is so iconic in a lot of the imagery we see. Like this this episode did not go in the direction I had anticipated. What were you anticipating? I had anticipated. What were you anticipating? Um, not some random alien race being like,

Hey, you guys will fight. I thought it was more of a situation where Kirk and some alien race happened to be stranded on a planet somehow. And then they fought as opposed to being like a, um, on like a, like a godlike being kind of causing the whole of that. Right. So basically your interpretation was the gorn was attacking the Enterprise and there was no third party involved. I kind of had the same vibe

with that too. I had no idea there was going to be some kind of like, you know, God twist, which I guess, you know, based on what we've seen of season one so far, probably should've seen like, I mean, yeah, a lot of God twists. The, you know, especially after seeing what the go-in were capable of and not discovery, change the world.

Yeah. With, with Sadie Pike basically playing, Navy, battle with them. I kind of expect more of a cunning enemy, not one that faster. Maybe a faster enemy. Maybe yeah. I mean, we got an element to that in the beginning where they were on the planet trying to, you know, have this long distance battle with the grenade launchers and that stuff. And I thought they did a great job establishing tension and urgency, sense of urgency that early on. Yeah. I was, it's very rare that the original series episodes grabbed me right from the beginning,

and this episode hooked me immediately. Yeah. And with some minor exceptions, once they got down to the second planet where it was just Kirk and the Gordon Captain, like I was pretty hooked the entire time. I think the first half really hooked me and then the second half just kind of lost me. Oh man, I was there. Like, give me more of that stuff, you know, the Wiley Coyote contraptions that the Gorn was building and everything, all that. Yeah. And somehow, Kurt building a cannon.

It was fun. It was fun. And I enjoyed the ingenuity of Kirk using science to To make that cannon So wait, why do you have a science there? Who are you? You drew the grass Tyson? Oh, I like that one I'm drew the science guy. Oh That's even better true true true true true true, true, true, true, true, true, no, I just saw you scream. I was wondering how many Jews you're

going to go in before you get the hook, you know? I could keep going. Do you have much time? Brad has to go change diapers. Yeah, I got diapers and change bottles to warm up. Why? To feed the baby? Oh, for the baby. Okay, they meant for you. Everything I said before about the diapers, I was

talking about you, not for the baby, but whatever. I guess the baby needs diaper changes too. I mean, when you reach a certain point in your age, you kind of need to go back into those diapers, but jeez. All comes full circle. Right, right. Soon your baby will be changing your diapers. Hi, jokes on. Very much. There was a lot to love about this episode and there was a lot to hate about the episode.

Let me just get a weird gripe out of the way. Yeah, let's see. The back of the Goren's costume, specifically the back of his knees. It was weird. Well, don't ask me why. I decided to look at the back of his knees. It's just the thing I do. Is it have anything to do with your only fans?

No, that's feet. We talked about this girl. Well, maybe we'll have a first creation. Maybe only fans? No, that's feet. We talked about this girl. Well, maybe we'll have a first generation. Maybe you're gonna move to knees next. I mean, you can't do calves because that's mine. But I wish I can spend a day with you and maybe convince you to let me shave your calves

and take the picture of them for only fans. Oh, boy. I don't even know what to say. Say yes. Yes, ma'ji. Help me under a journey. That getting only fence. That costume looked very, very uncomfortable. I have to say though, it was actually for that time period, I think it was actually pretty done well. I mean there's a running gag that you can see the zip around the back of it and I'm sure you probably could. But like that doesn't matter, I thought it was effective. What was this? 66. I think for a 66 is pretty good for for television. Yeah, 67. This was January 67.

Yeah, I think it I think it was pretty good. They clearly took the time to to try to find somebody that like, you know, had a pretty good build, you know, and just kind of enhanced it a little bit. And then you got that nice full face mask. His calves weren't enhanced. You can tell that part of that suit, which is not filled in certain areas. Yes, calves. He skipped like that. Oh, well, yeah. Yeah.

I think, I think in this sense, you know, it's definitely no Star Wars Your costume, but I think it was done very well and it is effective Yeah, technically the Gorn was on Star Wars Use one of the bounty hunters Drew you didn't know this that you know, so confused that's that's not That wasn't the Gorn. No, that wasn't Gorn. Buddy, hang on. One of the bounty hunters in Empire Shrite's back. Behind or to the right of or left of Boba Fett was one of the Gorn.

That wasn't a Gorn. He didn't let it go into you. That wasn't a Gorn. It looks like a Gorn but it wasn't I Can't remember that one is a specific one Now I'm looking it up because you're because of this I'm also looking it up because I've never seen this before. His name is Bask. Bask B.

That was SSK. Yeah. Actually, you're right. You know what? There's a clear difference in this costume. This is not acceptable. This is not acceptable. We're like 20 years apart though.

Not in terms of. No. No. Yeah. We're definitely a few years apart though. Not in terms of snow. No. Yeah, we're we're definitely a few years apart. That's like you're saying like all lizard people look the same. Oh. Oh man, Majida, I didn't take you for a racist. Or is that a species? Species. No, no, same thing. You just insulted me in the two different ways. But, I mean, you know, I accurate or not. Did you guys love anything else about the episode though? Or has it so much time passed you forgot what you loved?

I mean, to be completely honest, a lot of time has passed and I have forgotten quite a bit of what I love. I wish I had an opportunity to watch this episode again. I really enjoyed this episode for some as well and, you know, it hooked me, like I said before, from the beginning, even though there was a singular plot, which we've kind of complained about quite a bit. They did a good job of making your compelling from start to finish. You know what? I was really into this and, you know, I guess there kind of was a B plot with the, the Metro's, but... It was...

It helped kind of flesh the story out. It didn't really get in the way of it, I think. But it was also unnecessary, so. I disagree. I kind of felt that it did get in the way. I felt like they could have had a much better story without even adding that little element to it. I do remember the episode

very much and I just wasn't enthusiastic about it as much as you were Drew. What didn't you like? It was very campy my mind and yeah and the campiness to me just was very meh wasn't bad don't get me wrong in that sense not anything far from it just was it was laughable and not necessarily the good way I I was laughing but more of the at the absurdity of what they were doing for the episode. I was along for the ride with the absurdity. Yeah, man, I was totally there for it. See, like I think about other shows that you were made even before then, like the Twilight Zone, or Outer Limits, not the ones in the 80s, but the original elements. And I think about how well those were crafted in driving a story.

And it was a self-contained story where it was just that episode. I didn't need to watch like five or six episodes to get a better feel for it. And I think about those things and how this episode I really felt that kind of lacked in some of the excitement that I felt from those. Well, I mean, there are some absolutely classic outer limits episodes and classic Twilight Zone episodes, but there's also some stinkers too. Oh yeah, just the point of coverage.

That's the kind of stuff that, like, unless you're doing like a watch through of a series like we're doing with this, I think we tend to kind of cherry pick our favorite episodes and remember those and kind of forget about the episodes that weren't really. It's it's fair. It's fair. But I can assure you I did not cherry pick on those was it new years day Twilight marathon Twilight zone marathons from sci-fi channel I miss those those were so much fun those were just so fun You just like you know after your day of drinking you just turn that on watch every single one back to back Yeah, I did that a few times to man good times

Yeah, I mean honestly I feel like you're the kind of person to watch the honeymoon or his marathon that comes on No more like I love Lucy or Bewitch to ride your Majini those are the ones I'm more likely to watch I don't see a problem with any of these shows all of that sounds like a great time to me Right, yeah, you were like you're a fan of the old timey. Yeah, like stuff. Didn't you start watching some of the shows that WandaVision based there early episodes? Yeah, like my wife and I were watching Dick Van Dyke well before WandaVision even came out. So like as soon as we saw the episode of WandaVision that called back to that, it's like we recognize

that living room, you know? Honeymooners, I love Lucy. Even some of the shows from like the 70s, like Mary Tyler Moore, Bob Newhart, more community, more good. Well, I haven't seen that in years, but I loved more community. That was great. When I was a kid, I was a big fan of more community, but I have not watched it recently.

Hello, are you really? I remember I am when I was a kid, my one of my things I always watched instead of watching the full house and all the other stuff I would be watching Nick and Nate. Yeah. And I would love to watch all those old classic TV shows. Yes. Guys, I'm over here watching Power Rangers. And that's that too, I'm sorry, and Morning.

And Boy Meets World, and you guys are watching like I never like I watched boy meets world but never watched it like Religiously it would always be just me going to Nick and me and watching those classic, you know green acres Mr. Ed Yeah, Andy Indie-Gryfft you show. Yeah I watched a lot of I watched I watched I Think VH1 had episodes of Saturday Night Live

That used to play and I still love it. Yeah On the days I was stay home from school like they would have these these episodes and they were great How far back would you go would you go to like the 70 70s with the original cast? No, I would go late A's. I think when some of the best episodes in my mind happened with Adam Sandler would have joined by then. OK, yeah. What was the little 90s, I think?

Yeah. That's 90s. Maybe. I'm pretty sure Sandler was in the 90s. Yeah, Sandler was a staple of the 90s. Um, I think also Chris rock joined in the 80s him and Chris Farley no Chris Chris rock was in the 80s. Yeah, yeah Chris Farley joined in the 90s And there was um Was David spade was in here and there. David Spade, Rob Schneider, Norm McDonald's.

See what I'm Rob Schneider. Well, you were watching, I was watching like kids in the hall. Oh, I love kids in the hall. That was a great show. Yeah. Never get into it. Never get into it. To Canadian for you, eh? Oh, don't do that because I watch super troopers.

They're Canadian, right? I think one of the things I always enjoyed was Second City. I think it was so much fun. I've heard of that, but I've never seen it. Never heard of it. We're gonna have to have this 30- Another podcast about comedy shows. Yeah, because I don't

know time in classics. I don't know any of these. I did watch by Jim and Jeannie, but the color episodes. Oh, what about before Brad calls me a racist? Before Brad calls me a racist. The episodes that were filmed in color with colors, not just not black and white, Brad, but you know, in technical color. Did you ever watch Dick Van Dyke? No, that is such a good show. Every once in a while, they'll do something that has an aged very well, but yeah, for the most part, just a brilliant show.

Yeah, um, speaking of shows, let's get back to this one. Yeah. Which, uh, yeah, guys, Amy, have anything you hated about the episode? I think to me it was the over-dramaticness of Shatner, of way he over-dramatized certain points. It was just kind of like very met. But from what I understand is that was that was his character like that's how he As an individual is and he's trying to put like his all into it when it's like come on dude. You don't really need to go that far He's overacting you saying yeah a bit

What about you Drew the The slow motion punching Of a glorist was it slow motion? No, or, the slow motion punching of a Gourmer's. Was it slow motion? No, or was it just that he was really, really slow? What, well, I mean Kirk was moving at a normal speed. The Gourmer was not. So like, I'm not saying like they're slowing it down, the Gourmer was slow, I guess.

I don't know. Whatever you want to, whatever you want to call call it the punch that took 30 seconds to just Yeah, like but Listen I get it because I have Mike Wright is also with that fight. Yeah So when he's talking to Kirk a Kirk is talking to Spock. He's like, I don't know man I hit him with everything I got it should have killed a normal man Oh my what I hit him with everything I got. It should have killed a normal man. I'm like, what? You hit him with the duffest and his back.

You made his kidneys bleed, that's it. In the time it took this Gorn to swing at Kirk. Kirk could have ducked and punched him like four or five times. But all he did was duck. That was the thing that took me out of the episode the most. What they were like fighting with the rocks and Kirk was climbing up the mountain side and all that stuff, I was back in, but the hand-to-hand combat was atrocious. Yeah.

This episode got me excited because I think you and I talked about this. We're in for some really good upcoming episodes, aren't we? One that I'm excited for is next week's. And then, well, I don't know if I should be next week because, you know, Bouting Baby Bread. It's two weeks. No, your couple weeks out of that one. Tomorrow was yesterday is the next episode followed by Return

of the Arcons and Space Eaters. Yeah, Space Eaters is two more episodes. What about court martial? Yeah, you're looking at the wrong list. Uh oh. I was excited for court martial because I'm like, yeah, Kirk Finingus has come up and sending all those retro to die. Yeah. Sorry. Man, that, every time we talk about red shirts, I was thinking that John Scolzi book. Oh, it was a great book. I did not like the end of that book. That, listen, the first act, the second act, were cool.

The ending was kind of mellowed. But I did enjoy that. I did enjoy it. It didn't take a while. Listeners, we were talking about the the book red shirts by John Scaldor. Give us money, John Scaldor. I also enjoyed Will Wheaton as as the reader. See, I actually give us money. Will Wheaton. I actually read the reader. See, I actually have a funny little bit. I actually read the book. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. Does that?

Audio books. Who does that? I don't know any time. I'm a daddy. True, how do you do that when you're driving to work? Well, you know, I just borrowed some tips from our friend, Lyle. The crocodile? He listens to podcasts. Oh, okay. Which I'm assuming he only listens

to the greatest podcast of all. Yeah, another Star Trek podcast. Yeah, exactly. So next week we have you're saying tomorrow's yesterday. Correct. OK. Well, I'm excited for that one too. Tomorrow's yesterday, today? Yeah, listen, you're a time traveler, so that one, like, you get that joke, but I don't, because I'm not a time traveler. I'm excited for it though, because I recently saw Top Good Maverick and the opening of that episode,

reminded me of Top Good Maverick and the opening of that episode reminded me of Top Good Maverick. It started the auto play. You're going back in time, aren't they? Yeah, this is a time travel episode. Oh, I'm so excited for this one. Do they in time shall them more than three days in the past? In 1969. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. The Enterprise is hurled back in time to the year 1969, where the US Air Force cites it as a UFO. The crew must find a way to erase evidence of their visit before trying to get back to the future home. Do you know what I was thinking about this? Feature, however, they go back in time to 1969, would have been very helpful in Star Trek 4.

Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, you got a sling shot around the sun, though, that's the only way. Was that how they do in this? They're doing a shot around the sun? That's how they do it in Star Trek 4. I know she's got the gun reference. But that's the coolest way.

I wish I got that reference. Oh, gee, we're gonna have so much fun watching the movies. So you're telling me that nobody actually uses a Chroma Gummy No, that's new That's new Chroma Gummy by the way is a lower-decks reference, but I mean we're talking about an episode that we haven't seen yet And we haven't even scored the one that we did see We do need to score this one.

I know we still do that. Wait, what's the scale we use? It's eight to right. Eight to right. You can do a plus or an A minus. All right, so I'm gonna let Brad go first because I don't believe him. So I think overall the episode, like it did catch me a little bit more in the beginning. However, the overall campiness, the the cheeseiness, the 30 second punch man, like, like all that

stuff was just like, come on, what the hell are they doing? It was, it wasn't a bad episode. I can assure you, I probably would have turned it off after a few minutes of watching it, but it was a sex for me. Ooh, spicy, spicy take. I wonder if, I wonder if, if the Goren had connected with that punch, if Kirk would have been like,

just launched a crust. I would have come off. Come on. Anyway, did yeah. Yeah. No big fan of this episode. I hit the ground running. It kept me engaged the entire time.

I wasn't even looking at my phone. If this episode was on, I would leave it on. I might even restart it. I was looking forward to watching it again before we recorded because it had been two months, but unfortunately, real life got in the way and that wasn't possible today. That being said, the fight scene was not great. The intervention by the metros was unnecessary. Metrons. Metrons. Sorry.

The metro just bites your ankle when you walk by the hallway. Yeah, it probably will, just give me a little hope. So yeah, I mean, I liked it. 7.5. Ooh, spicy take. I don't know why I keep saying. 7.5. Ooh, spicy take. I don't know why I keep saying spicy take. I just like the way it sounds.

What'd you think, man? Anyway, I wanna give the episode an A, man. This episode was great. There's so many good memes that come out of it, especially the shipping of the Gorn and Kirk. I was out of the memes. I was a. Like, you know, I was for the memes. That was a forbidden love, you know. Definitely a forbidden love.

Yeah. I'm excited for next week's though, because again, I saw Top Gun Maverick and not only do I have the song stuck in my head, but I want to be a fighter pilot. Is Tom Cruise in this episode? Does he do any of those songs? He's been like that. Don't tease me like that.

Any final thoughts, guys? I think we summed it up pretty good. If you're going to get into a fight on the desert, punch fast. I don't think Kylo appreciate that advice. Do you have anything else? Kylo's listening. I can see him. He's looking really down. He is staring daggers at you.

Um, Kylo, go get treats. I think he's gonna poop. No, no, he would have been far more annoying if he had the poop. I got nothing else, son. All right, Brad, what about you, buddy? Nothing, nothing at all man. Well, I have a final thought. I missed you guys so much.

I missed us. And guess what? The boys are back and down. The boys are back and down. Bidin' in it. Bidin' in it. Can we get Carlos singing that with us? I'm back in town boys are back in town Well, I'm in a mini mini mini mini mini mini Can we get Carlos singing that with us? Does he sing buddy?

Nope, no he's mad. He's mad. Alright guys, so next week we got some more of us yesterday or that's basically what Brad calls time travel. Yesterday's today. that's basically what Brad calls time travel. Yesterday's today. Yesterday's today. Wait, this is how I feel after working on the night shift. Tomorrow was yesterday.

But that's I kind of how I feel my week goes not in my debt. Well, I mean, you get what? Like 45 minutes of sleep every night? I get more than that. 46, whatever. Yeah. All right, guys. So, let's aim to do this in less than 60 days, huh? Sounds like a plan.

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