Yet Another Star Trek Podcast - Ep 032: (TOS S01E19) Tomorrow is Yesterday

Episode Date: November 22, 2022

This week, The Gang finally get an answer of what happened yesterday from tomorrow. Brad rambles, Majeed looses it, and Drew deals with both. Tune in to find out that nothing actually happened! Be sure to check out our website, social media, and join our Discord! Links for all are listed below: Website | Discord | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | TikTok | YouTube Drop us an email at [e-mail]! “Warp Speed” and "To the Stars" was written and performed by William Grobbelaar Music: https://soundcloud.com/williamgrobbelaarmusic Additional artwork by George Rateau: https://www.fiverr.com/georgerateau

Welcome to yet another Star Trek podcast. I hope everybody's doing well out there. I'm Brad for the evening. Of the evening! Of course, I'm joined by the two jerks of space in the final frontier. We have Drew and Majeed, welcome gentlemen. Space Jerk! Space Jerk! Space Jerk! I was trying so hard not to laugh when he said Brad But even I specifically did that trying to make you laugh It's so funny Tomorrow tomorrow he's just like got a patric bait man or something I Depends

Brad you listen to you listen to news the news? I do. I do. Oh shit, we're screwed. No, I don't. I'm lying. I'm lying. Gentlemen, how you guys doing? How's everything been? I'm getting a real Jeffrey Dahmer vibe from Brad right now.

He brought with me a watch guy in Netflix. I tried watching that. I could not. I hear like it's too close to hope. I even watched Ken Netflix. I tried watching that, I could not tolerate it. You're like, it's too close to hope. Yeah, it's too much of my life story. Relax, I just wanna take a picture. Oh my God, I haven't seen it.

I haven't seen it. No, I haven't seen that. I think there was this couple bodybuilders where the wife ended up killing the husband and it was like a documentary series. I ended up watching Kim Lord the name it was. It was interesting. It happened in the 90s. Then there was something Sally.

Yeah, something Sally. And then there was I think midnight club. The racing game? No. I thought the same thing. It's, um, no, I'm gonna look it up. No, it's called the midnight club. It's kind of like, um, who, you remember who's afraid of the dark?

It's basically these termally, termally ill kids who meet in this library at midnight, and they tell scary stories but their life is also some sort of scary story as well so it's like you're just kind of like jumping at every moment they have they apparently got an award from the Guinness Book of World Records for the first episode for having the most jump scares in a single episode. Wow.

What was that? I passed the midnight club. It was really good. It surprised me. Like I enjoyed it a lot better than I had anticipated. Well, you're a horror fan too. So I mean, also you're, I have questions about your tastes and shows and movies because you have a kid too. I mean, also, you're, I have questions about your taste and shows and movies because you have a kid now. Yeah.

I mean, you're also probably over there watching like Octodontz. And not yet, not yet. I'm not there. Are we not? Octodontz, are like Octopus is under sea or something? We are in the Octopus. But Octopus is already are in the sea. Yeah, but then I can then na your sea or something. We are, we are in the, I think the octopus. But octopus is already are in the sea.

Yeah, but then I can then nave here something. What? Like, like, yeah, seal me the meal, the nave. I'm pretty sure they're called octana. Hang on, octo, that's. And this is how we spend the first five minutes of our podcast. Octana's are, okay. Octana's are our dynamic eight member team

of a quirky and courageous adventurous heroes who dive into action where trouble, whenever they show under the sea. I appreciate that there's eight of them. I don't know what you're googling, but when I Google it, I pull up a watch. Apparently the way I spelled it is it just pulls up a watch. How did I end up with technical How did I think I'm not

I mean honestly you have the best of both worlds Brad you spelled it wrong. Apparently obviously you spelled it wrong. It should be ashamed yourself So so you know just just for our listeners. How how would you go about in spelling that magic? Octanas I know how I was spell. I'm not. The Fred doesn't have a spell. OC. OCT. Uh, what?

OCT. A. N. U. T. S. Isn't it right in front of you? I closed it.

I'm looking at it. I have two screens. I spelled as aqua as in seven. Not I was doing it entirely wrong entirely wrong. Clearly. Are you proud of yourself for you? Yeah, I'm going to give you a hell. To be fair, he got a watch.

Yeah. I mean, the watch apparently is like a $60,000 watch. Who would have guessed? All right, I'm to Drew. We need to talk about your search history and algorithm now. Delete the fifth. So, so, gentlemen, how's everything been going? It's been a bit of time since we've last shot.

I believe it's been almost two weeks. I'm, I was telling you guys before, I've been saying it all week. My butt hurts, my legs are sore, my butt hurts, my back is hurting. I has been progressive overload for the past few months. Spartan races ride up the street, like it's there, I can see it.

It's on Saturday. You can see, and you feel it from where you're from your house? That's awesome, man. And when I close my eyes, it's all I see. Mm-hmm. But I mean, you know, it's gonna be great because I told you, Drew, I'm gonna leave it up a decker in the bathroom there for you And then explain to you that that would be impossible

Right and we'll just take a dump in the field like the rest of the mess. Yeah Anyway, um after after Saturday After Saturday, man, it's it. I don't have anything else to obsess over until the next Spartan race or maybe I'll do a Turkey Day 5K. Yeah, we have Thanksgiving coming up soon. Is that a thing at Turkey Day 5K?

Yeah, Turkey Day 5K literally is a 5K that you'll run in your town. And it's on Thanksgiving. There's other races that you get like a giant tari leg after the race is over. I don't think I want that. Nobody wants that. Maybe Brad, Brad, do you want a giant tari leg? Um, when I go to a renfair.

What's a renfair? A Renaissance fare. Oh, well, don't try to be cool and abbreviated. What's a run fair? A run a sans fair? Oh, well, don't try to be cool and abbreviated. It's, it doesn't make you less able to lose air, but that's what they call it. The cool red a sans fair people? No, they just refer to it as a run fair. Hydro. I'm saying out of doing what he's saying out of this. I mean for fear of elimination.

Um, I have a, I have an idea. Stick with me on this. Oh boy. We should go to a Renaissance fair. No. Hang on. Full stop. Let me finish.

Let me finish in Star Trek. I hope it's. Thank you. Yes. Wow. I've never heard that before. Several people have done that before. Is that hope it's thank you. Yes. Wow. I've never heard that before. Several people have done that before.

Is that really a thing? Yeah. Yeah. All right. I'm done. You know what? I tried. Well, no, see, see, I'm surprised you didn't think of the Star Wars route.

You know, you go to a Renaissance fair where it's back in time. Like, you know, that was a long time ago. I mean, I know Frank's is talking about dressing up as Anakin Skywalker and going to like a daycare. But that was good. Oh, man. Oh, God. Wow, that's all sorts of messed up there. That's all sorts of messed up. Like a semi-pimit.

Yeah. The fact that you both got it. It just shows you where we fall in the nerd spectrum Oh But seriously though Frank's could help Anyway guys Anyway guys, we start track podcast. I should be do this. I'm laughing so hard. I'm sweating as you're probably turning a fan on.

Yeah, I was actually gonna say like, I need to take my hoodie off. Ha ha ha. Drew's taking off his clothes. Yeah, I just put on a fan on. All right. No, I'm gonna fan myself off now. Drew hang on.

Just pour a bucket of cold water. You guys won't believe this. Drew took off his sweater, and he's wearing the same exact shirt underneath. I guess the same exact design. It is not. No, they just happen to have red. Oh, okay, and they're both porcupines.

You see it? You see it? You see it? I just colored my engine. Porcupine engine. Porcupine engine. Porcup okay. And they're both porkypines. You see? You see it? I just colored my engine. Porkypine engine. Porkypine engine. Porky. No. Okay. Although porkypine engine would be pretty great. And it sounds adorable. It does. It sounds really good. Every time you go to rev it up, you get stuck. Well, no, imagine the security system on that. Well the porcupine would be the security system. True true. Well, gentlemen, we have an episode we watched this past week.

Oh, we sure did. Yeah, I watched the entire season of white Lotus But it's okay. I tried white Lotus by the way, and I could not get into that show Just couldn't catch my interest Yeah, the kid now your interests are different clearly, but with the The week this week's episode we watched tomorrow is yesterday. I feel, and I feel this is a, an explanation for you, Majid, of what finally happened of those three days. This is what happened. It's not.

It's not. It's not. It really, it really isn't. It really isn't. And this episode, it's just an homage to the Futurama episode, which they did the Zayn Mizzak thing. Except there was those Zoyberg hitting on one of the military guys.

I'm pretty sure, if anything, it's the other way around where Futurama kind of based it off of this. I mean, you're a time traveler, you should understand that time is not a linear thing. Time is like a circle I thought I was a strength or a square

Or it's a string that can be folded upon each other or it's like a tape Jamie bear me. It's Jeremy bear me Jamie bear me oh Man, I love that Who if that took you a while that that was such a delay. Well, it did. It's been a while since I've seen that show. By the way, we're talking about the good place, a wonderful show for folks who are interested in comedies and about the afterlife.

But this week, folks, we watched Tomorrow is Yesterday. Now I don't have a summary for you, so I'm just going gonna give you the jits of everything and try to go from there. So we started off in the year 1969 when a strange mysterious UFO shows up in the sky and United State Air Force Sunday fighter pilot to investigate. And it turns out it's the enterprise. They somehow are miraculously transported back in time to 1969. They did some sort of explanation about something exploding on their way to Earth and it transported them.

Yeah. So, so the loose explanation was the quote, quote, came across a black star. I think they were employing like a black hole, probably, and yeah, it sent them back in time. And I don't know about you guys, but I loved the intro to this episode. Oh yeah, I thought this was great. The intro actually kind of surprised me.

It took me back because I'm used to such quality intros that are kind of questionable and this actually felt like it was very well done. Probably stock footage I would imagine. Oh yeah. But it was definitely had it vibe to really set up the pace and tone for the episode. There was clever and I thought it was unique and different. It caught my attention. Well, it was the military being put on alert for some strange unknown entity. Not necessarily an unknown entity, I guess. More of just like an alert of a object in the sky. Can you imagine watching this episode back in the 60s for the first time? And you sit down and watch Star Trek, and all of a sudden you have all this like current day footage that you're

seeing, and you're like, oh, what the hell's going on? This is weird. Is this a different show? Am I watching a movie? Did somebody make a mistake? And then all of a sudden, the enterprise is hovering above planet Earth in like the clouds. Like, how cool is that? Majid, what are your thoughts on that intro? I think I think a better explanation would have been that Suleu put something in a microwave. You know, he put, he put tin foil just like my wife. Did he did the world go red and blue at the same time? Clearly, no, everybody's flashing green.

Everybody's flashing green. He says, hey, what smells blue? No, I listen, I look, I don't want to bury the lead here, but I did not love this episode as much as I thought I would. You have to pretend at least until we get to the end. My bet. You loved it. Do you want to leap that part out?

No, no, no, no, we're good. We're rolling. I'm joking with you. You can voice your opinions as much as I do. Yeah. Uh, the difference Brad is that Drew cares less about my opinion than he does for yours. That's true. Ouch. I didn't say it. You said it. Uh, I worked her. Uh, you know, uh, you didn't have to agree with me so quickly. Okay. We could try to solve the allute. No, we'll back and we'll like, we'll report that part. We can't solve it.

No, you better, what would Drew will do is he'll just put a delay. Yes. I'm the scar. He'll fix it in post. All right, let's try it again. All right. No, you know, you don't have to have to have already done it.

So therefore, he could just edit it and be like, sometimes, sometimes, sometimes, sometimes good to have a second take. Yeah, yeah, but Drew can just add the Jeopardy music in there. Yeah, look, so, go ahead. So what did I say? Okay. Drew cares less for my, it's so bad, my memory sucks. Drew cares less for your opinion that he does for mine Thanks director Long live please line Drew cares less for my opinion that he does for yours Brad Too much pause yes Too much pause. Yes. Too much pause.

Too much pause. Too much. So going back to the episode, the fighter pilot, by the way, it's just, you know, you see a strange object in the sky. What do you do? You send a single pilot. You don't send a fleet you just send like one One person because that's all a taste one wasn't that what they did an independence day probably Well, Randy quay. They just want to get rid of Randy quay. Do you blame him? Oh spoiler alert for 30-year-old movie Anyways, so ready for the pilot is is going to figure out what the heck that is. They're like, oh my god, some strange ship and Kirk was like, hey, let's just take the ship grab a tractor beam and then let's take it from there Bad idea guys because apparently the tractor beam destroyed the crap out of his ship and

They're like, oh, well, we got a beam of mop. So they beam them up beforehand. And then he's like, oh, my God, what the hell is everything at this premature coast? That sums up that part. They, um, he's like, I'm going to go back home. He's like, no, you're stuck here. Yeah. So he's like, people are going to miss me and spot like, no, they're not. They're not. Oh, they're not. So to that point is they eventually calm the guy down. They talk him through, say, we're from the future, which he somehow quickly acknowledges and accepts.

This dude acclimated to this whole concept way too quickly. By the way, why did they give him a star-fully uniformed aware? Yeah, didn't they have like literally any other clothing? Apparently they can make they can be clothing in a replicator can't they? Yeah, yeah. So they they get this guy on the ship, they kind of convince them, They get this guy on the ship, they kind of convince him, hey, you know what, we're from the future, and then they have a meeting to Majid's point. Kirk goes to Spock and is like,

what is his significance on this era? And Spock's like, yeah, he contributed nothing to history. So it really wouldn't matter if he's missed And he's like what's going on? I don't want that Spock is lay in the smackdown on this dude. He gives zero F's pretty much dude pretty much so So they eventually kind of talk him into you know what we need to do is we need to To collect the

data from the evidence from his ship and everything. So they kind of give in some maybe we'll let you go if you help us. That's kind of the way it kind of went. And it worked out fairly well. The crew end up identifying a place where there's a military base and they can beam down to collect the evidence. The guy, of course, is like, hey, you know what? I'll go down with you. No, Kirk is like, none of that. It'll be me and Sulu. By the way, I kind of have expected them to do some sort of, oh no, it's like an invasion type thing. Get them all get caught, but, but they did technically get caught by one person.

And of course, that one person, what do they do? They're being mama. And so now there's another guy. That makes zero sense to me. That made it so. Absolutely. However, this was a little bit more comical because this guy was scared shitless. Yeah. Um, you can totally bleep that out if you want, but it was so true because he was like, what, what is going on is entirely frozen and it is like, I'm not moving. Yeah. Yeah.

And remember her, her messages, the, uh, the the enterprise is like hey, you may want to you know show them around You'll let you give them proof that we are you who we are and they're like yeah, that's not gonna be a problem. He's not moving anywhere The thing that I like just found most ridiculous involved about this whole situation is like The enterprise crew is like what do we do? I don't know, beam them up. Okay. Yep. This is why this is why Kirk is in Gay Court of Marshals. This is it.

Everything we're seeing is the reason why he gets dishonorably discharged in the future. He has become admiral. He is dishonorably discharged. Well, you're gonna be real disappointed in a little while. They promote this nonsense. Damn it's fun. Sorry, you suck.

Anyways, so... Well, actually, I'm gonna go back to this guy, the random guy, the security guard, the beam up. The thing that got me though was, he didn't really you know why I think you but but they're like Hey, are you hungry? Well, I could use some soup and they make him a chicken chicken noodle soup or something And he's like completely blown away by the the fact that they just pull up soup from nowhere Apparently that that was just blossoming you guys. I guess okay I mean, you know, I think this is the part where my brains shut off.

Oh you did oh you probably I can't ask you that question yet but did you like the episode? I don't know did you did you Mijit? I did. It's funny it's my daughter my daughter's watching you with me and she's not saying a word. I think she thought it was interesting That's good. Yeah, right. I have Yeah, yeah, sure good for her Cut she's also grounded though She can't back the episode or else she gets an extension to her

I don't know why she's in the living room with me. She's like petting the, no, actually no. Because she's, she's got nothing else to do if she's grounded. The dog is, excited. The dog and I are, are, are, for like a minute words, that dog and I are cuddling on a couch. Uh-huh. Kyle is a cuddler by the way and it's amazing.

Better than a cat cuddling. Dog cuddles are pretty great. Dog cuddles are pretty great. But I don't even know why she was there. I almost fell asleep during the episode. Okay. I expect it more. Hey. Hey. They succeed in the mission getting the evidence, being back on board, and they get to talk

and try to figure out what's going on. Also they finally figure out a way that they're going to try to go back home to. And the whole thing here though, is where none of this actually matters. Because what they do, is they go back in time, and they return the guys they took in the exact same moments that they took them. And so none of it actually ever happened.

I just, the part that confuses me is how their minds, like they beam the original ones back into those places. But they're, I guess like by beaming on top of themselves, like the brains just lost all memory. I don't know explanation. Yeah. They beam them on top of each other in a way that it, hey, no, no enterprise, no, you know, space travel, no nothing. And they eventually go back to the future. And so everything's normal. Yeah, they they are.

Is that the term jump in the shark or is that a difference? Her jump in a shark and you do something unbelievably stupid and somehow get away with it. Right. They think they can jump in the shark. Yeah. Yeah. So it's yeah, it's usually referred to the point when in a TV show, they've gone too far. And there's no hope of returning. It actually refers to a specific moment in happy days

when the Fanzi jumped his motorcycle over a shark. Right, literally, literally jumping. Oh, man, I remember that. So that is where that term came from, because that show was never the same from that point on. Like, it was kind of heading in that direction, and that's just where it was like too far gone. I think this term in related to Star Trek should be time-warping the sun. Yeah, that's pretty accurate

because that's kind of what they did. They do not handle time travel well. Well, buddy. I get used to it because this is not going to be the last time you're going to see this very same technique. It's I feel like we drew you haven't you and I have seen this quite some time over and over again. And it's it's a very typical Star Trek trope of, oh my God, how did we do this? It's so crazy, time travel is so unique,

but we'll do it again next week, so don't worry. Right. It's, this could have been literally an entire season if it was Discovery or something, you know. Oh, if it was Discovery, it would been literally an entire season if it was discovery or something, you know, but If it was discovery, it would have been entire season. I mean, it will be season three. Season three of discovery is them going to the future.

I didn't mean to trigger you, buddy. I know you hated discovery season three. Um, you're not wrong. Like actually, you're not wrong. You hated it from the very first episode, I think. Oh, it's just nice. Discovery's been hit or miss with me. It had its ups and downs where I was not

happy with certain changes. Some of the stuff is just, I don't like the actress to play as Michael. I really don't like her. I love the supporting cast, some of the other main characters, like the guy who plays Stamets. What's the other guys, the Doctor Hugh?

Is that you? Wilson Cruz. Oh, with the fantastic facial hair. Love, I love him. He's amazing. Sir, I have a lot. I love his facial hair too. Yeah, it's great.

Like it's perfect facial hair. Now he's gorgeous. He's a man. He's a lot. I love his facial hair too. Yeah, it's great. Like it's it's it's perfect facial hair. Now he's he's gorgeous I'll be honest. I have I kind of have a crush on that guy. That guy is like I get it. I I'm hoping that your wife Just like bust you the door hits you with a I don't know wooden spoon I'll take it. I'll just be like, hey, you know what sweetheart, I I totally deserve it. Keep it. Just show her just show her a picture of Wilson Cruz. I know. I know. Is it his real name? Yeah. I'm going to put it as my wallpaper background to see if my wife from place. She's currently she will. My wife is my wallpaper. Is that is that the worst upon you? Is that something which she's like he gave me your phone? Let me know when we were when we were in Miami, there was a lobby in the hotel, the hotel area, by the way, hold to aria, I love you, give me money. It's on to us. Anyway, they had this lobby and I just said, what I,

I got a picture here. This is the perfect lighting, the perfect background is just everything. So before I left, I was able to get a picture of mini photo shoot with my wife there. So that's just been the picture. There have been times I've intended just to delete it to change it because you know it's getting old right and you've upset me emotionally physically. Do you threaten her by like, look, if you don't, if you don't fix this, I'm gonna delete that photo off my. I, I've said maybe I wanna put a picture of Kylo instead.

And you know Kylo, I've taken some really good pictures of Kylo, like he is, he's really like a photogenic dog. I've threatened. Anyways, gentlemen, here we are kind of digressing from the original topic. We talked about bragging beat with a spoon and we just went off the rails. Well, that's deserved. We need to sum up the episode. So to sum up this episode,

apparently soon, who put something in the microwave and everything Apparently soon to put something in the microwave and everything you are Everything turns blue The enterprise just beams up ran apparently apparently if you beam somebody on top of themselves it races their memory And quite frankly know this shit really matters anyways Right because nothing actually happened. This is Shrike 2 when it comes to time travel on his show for me. Okay, well, I saw like Vin Diesel right now.

You totally don't. But keep telling yourself that. Wow. That's a... That's a... That's a merit. Oh, first one of the episodes. That's a that's a very that's a first one I like the of the mother you haven't got a little while sir I have not I'm not throwing it I'm gonna take it you but I think the the time travel the the beginning of the episode showed I think a very good starting point for this episode. I thought it was done very well. The opening sequence. The middle part of the story felt a little wishy washy, and then the ending was kind of up and down, up and down there.

So there's something that this episode does that we haven't really truly seen to this point yet But Brad and I have seen this time and time again and Majeed Maybe you have in some of your more recent Star Trek exposures and that's like the way that the Federation views time travel in general Right, the the last time we saw time travel that wasn't the basis of the story That was a way of trying to fix an ending that didn't exist. But now we have Time Travel as the focus of our story. And their main objective, any time, like they go into this thing, like knowing the time travel exists. And like, well, we can't mess with the timeline because it's going to screw everything up.

And this is a mantra that you're going to hear time and time again throughout Star Trek history. But I do think that it gets handled better over time. Like there are much better time travel episodes in the original series, as well as the later series. I think Drew, my thinking about like future series of how the things are handled, I always think about the Deep Space 9 episode where Cisco and I think it's DAX.

And I can't remember who is. For sure, they go back in time for the, what is it called? What riots? The bell riots. Bell riots, that's right. And that, I think is a good example of how, like future episodes handle it very well,

where they're like, oh, we can't mess up the timeline, but we'll just replace the people and we'll become them and then essentially a part of the actual situation. That tends to be my more favorite ones because they need to keep the timeline going. They want to make sure things don't get messed up. And then in Star Trek 4, they use this exact same slingshot around the Sun technique to go back to the 1980s. Yep, you know, so that's like the entire plot point of a movie. Also that's how Superman did it. No, no, he spun the earth in reverse. Oh, that's dumber. Yeah, that was a lot. You know, let me let me spin the earth in reverse and

that will totally go back in time. It won't mess up with our gravity at all Yeah, I mean like we don't we may not have any scientific backing behind the idea of sling shotting around the sun But there is scientific evidence that revolving the earth in reverse would destroy the earth pretty much Yeah, um The sling shotting around a sun. I think is how Buzz Lightyear did it in the Lightyear movie this past summer. I didn't see that. Oh, was it? Was it some sort of, I thought of some sort of like, some fuel, some fuel that he ended up having to do. It was, you know, you're right, though, the movie from the Buzz Lightyear movie was actually a lot better than I expected to be Yeah, because he was sling shotting around to hit a certain speed, but everything he did it he

Who's he are these spoilers Maybe maybe they are Spoiler alert if you haven't seen the movie jump ahead, I don't know 45 seconds Just end the episode just stop. Yeah, just don't don't listen to us because we're gonna talking about it. And I'm sure Magi is going to forget and be like, don't start in like next 10 minutes again. Don't start don't don't stop the episode because you'd probably finish it again because you know, you love us. Anyway, every time Buzz Lightyear did a jump around the sun, he aged or sorry, everybody else aged seven years like the whole world went on seven years, what, meanwhile, he's the same age

because of the time space differential stuff. There's the same way Brad does it, don't we? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, but that was it. Now back to our regular essential program. I don't really remember what we were talking about. It was things shouting around the side. Oh yeah, that. Well, Majeed, what do you think of the time travel aspect of this episode?

I hated it, man. I especially have to see in the future, Robber episode where they go back to the airbays. That's my biggest picture. Oh, you're expecting somebody to sleep with a grandmother or something? Oh my god, I forgot about Friday doing that. I could certainly see Kurt doing that. No, I expected though, there'd be a little more drama, right? I expected the pilot that they saved. The moment he turned around and revealed his face and you see the close-up of Kirk's face,

I expected that to be a relative, a long-lost relative of Kirk. That's what I expected. I got it. You know, I what I expected. I got it. You know, I was let down. I hyped myself up for nothing. And then I lost interest in the episode. Fair, fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah.

So I guess should we go into talking about, I actually don't have anything else to talk about. So should we go into our thoughts and final comments? I mean, this episode is pretty narrow, unfortunately. I feel like there should be way more to discuss because, you know, it being a time travel episode, there's all these different possible ramifications. But, you know, at the end of the day, none of it really mattered. Even when they reveal to the guy that he's going to have a son that, like, lands on Mars or Spur. Oh, that's right. I completely forgot but at the end of the day, none of it really mattered. Even when they revealed to the guy that he's gonna have a son that lands on Mars or Spur.

Oh, that's right. I completely forgot to bring up that in the summary. Is that the whole reason why they figured out that they needed to find a way to return the guy was because it wasn't him who would do anything to me. It was his son who is not yet born Right, and he gets all like Google II he's like oh son. I'm gonna have a I'm gonna be a father again I have a baby boy. Yep What was that voice you just did true. What was that that was

1960s man that was 1960s you 1960s man. Oh was 1960s you? 1960s man. Oh, I don't like it. Why? I don't know. Can you just do it maybe Roberto's voice or something? I'm gonna have a baby boy. I guess we every time. I don't really know what to say Why anyways I Is this always He's the robot of the stabs. Oh He doesn't sound like that. He does Whether or not it's a good one is that what I was a bank to case out the joy to rob it a little bit Okay, gentlemen, I really like let's get let's get going to those greetings

Well listeners if you really want to have a special episode where we just hear Majeed laughing off his ass Please write us and let us know and we will maybe create a special episode where it's just 30 minutes of Majeed laughing And we will maybe create a special episode where it's just 30 minutes of magi laughing Make some little wraps It's been a while It's the Roberto voice man It's it's it's the it's the it's the feature references that get me the the the Zach Braff the Zach Braff and Panagan Roberto we've done lower deck references like all that stuff just breaks me and Drew just knows

how to break me. He's basically Drago from Rocky IV. Yes. Drew. You don. Get that reference that you read. No, Drew, the big Russian guy. What? For Rocky for? I actually never seen Rocky. I'm gonna throw an egg at you. I never seen that. That's the best. That's another dimension. Drew, where are you on your scoring, sir? I came into this one kind of excited because I wanted to see how they would handle time travel and I walked away somewhat disappointed, although not like, I wasn't like completely down on this episode. I think there were a lot of good ideas that were formulated and foundation set, but ultimately my knowledge of Star Trek to come, I think, really hampered my enjoyment of this episode,

because there are other episodes that do the same exact plot significantly better than this one did. And unfortunately, it's hard for me to separate that from, you know, my score. Okay. So, would I... If this was on TV, and I was flipping through the channels, I would probably leave it on. It would be background noise and I'd be on my phone or washing dishes or whatever and I would not pause it to make sure I don't miss a thing. You know, if I had to get up to go to the bathroom, I'd leave it on.

Would not pause it. But I wouldn't shut it off either. I don't think it was bad. I just don't think it was good. So that didn't hold your interest. Yeah, I found my interest waning quite a bit right around the time where the second guy got beamed aboard like mentally. That's when I started messing around on my phone. Quite quite honestly, you know. So I'm gonna give it a five. Ooh, wow, that's a low number there, buddy.

Yeah, I was coming in with the thinking of a six, but now that we've kind of talked through it, I think a five. All right, Majeed, how about you, buddy? So I've done nothing to hide my hate for this episode. In terms of interest, my daughter was more interested than I was. I was playing Marvel's Snap while watching this episode. Marvel's Snap give us money.

Name drop. Yeah, I'll buy variants. Yeah, right. I'll buy variants as well. I'll buy season pass. I'll buy the Wakanda package, whatever. Anyway, I didn't like the episode, man. They are handling time travel really bad. They are handling time travel worse than Brad has and Brad is pretty bad at time travel. There's too many verges of you in this time. Clearly, yeah. I mean, or other people can just say, you all white people look alike to you. So. Oh, oh, oh, flag on the play. Oh, why not saying that? I'm not saying that you are not getting my sticker deal taken away.

The sneaker deal that you're going to be getting from the like a van down by the river and as a lot of those bands the city field to so that can my sneaker to you know when you go to city field next week you might see some some meds fans still tailgating they didn't get the memo so you know seems like an ace sneakers you can grab they have they have that the meds fan just go into the city and get like one of those from the those vendors on the street They're selling like the the knockoff. It's like Nike instead of Nike I

Had one of those when I was a kid Mike Piazzo Yeah, when I hold on I know I know you're in the middle of your score and I'm sorry, Majid, but but in the This is about the Nike thing when I was a kid my mom bought a shirt for me It was a pull-over sweatshirt, right? And it was a really cozy sweatshirt and it had the Nike logo on it in like stitch the leather It was really nice, right? but on the sleeve it it had Jansport logo. And it took me 20 years to figure out that that was a fake.

Oh. It was like somebody just- Did your mom listen into this? No. Oh, that sucks. Not, well, because she bought you a knockoff sweater, but also because she's not listening to the podcast. Yeah, that's, that's true. Drew's mom listened to the podcast, but also because she's not listening to the podcast. Yeah, that's that's true.

Drew's mind listening to the podcast. Oh shit, she won't listen to the podcast for me to actually say that to her. Now you've now you've created time travel. Oh wow, that's pretty hard. That's hard. That's right. Wow, this is why Brad so bad it is.

So easy to mess up. But you what your score? Eight out of 10. Hold on, hold on. I'm joking. I'm joking. I didn't have the drill. Yeah, Drew is like about to lose his crap there. I almost did a spit-take, man. Did that be true?

I had a mouthful of... It was mid-juring. I had a mouthful of beer and this guy's like eight out of ten. I hated it. What the fuck? It's your first day. It's bizarre, today, right? I hate it. It's bizarre, okay, right?

So he means the two he gave it to no I get out I'll give it a four. Wow. I can't yeah, and I didn't I didn't like the episode Man you guys really bash this one. I guess I don't see it's like a breath like best episode ever I don't see it on my son I don't know like I try to use I try to use the scale as you know appropriate like a five for me is average Meaning it's you know enjoyable, but not like great like it's right in the middle We are using the scales differently. I'm thinking of this like school. You're using the I. 100. You're using the IGN scale. Well, well, one out of 10, there's water everywhere. Yeah. No, I'm using my scale like you would for school, right? So, you know, percentage. Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah, this in my mind is like, it's like an F. So what

is a one or two abysmal? But if you're using a school scale, stay back a season. We'll back. Yeah, yeah, you failed geometry. So you're going to have to take it again. Yeah. By the way, I just going to put it out there. It's really nice seeing the shown nickels on screen. It was. It was. I think that's one thing that I kind of wish the series did is to have more screen time, like with her and Sulu and it is to have more screen time, like with her and Sulu and like it really is the Kirk Spock and McCoy show. And and primarily the Kirk show. Yeah.

Like, like, there's no question in season one at least, like William Shatner's the star. Oh, yeah. William Shatner is, by the way, that fight scene with Shatner and man, enough for a bunch of save his life. The wonder why he got caught. That's why you got beat up by the Gorn. Yeah. Yeah.

He was also slow. He's very slow. And listen, there was one part of that fight where one of the guys got thrown into the cabinet. I don't like, there's no way. There's no way, curvy is that strong. What about the part where the guy like charge that? I mean, Kirk just like hung up on the door frame. Yeah, he yeah, that was that was so telegraphed like, you don't

know, why'd you go low? Yeah, you know, he pulled out of gun. I'm like, ah, you just said, I would alien bullets bounce off me. Yeah, right. Brad, what was your score? You know, going through, I think the episode started off really strong. Time travel is one of those things that really falls near and dear to my heart when it comes to science fiction though. As cheesy and corny as this episode is, I actually enjoyed, I actually had a good time. It did hold my interest, but it was comical. It wasn't any stretch a great episode But to me it was a solid seven

So it wasn't bad clearly not as bad as what you you guys thought but Don't put me in the same category. It was entertaining for me. I actually enjoyed, I understand your pointer where it's like, oh, if I need to, you know, go grab a snack, I would leave it on. I wouldn't pause it. There's plenty of TV shows that I do that.

I think this though, I would have probably paused it in that kind of scenario where I was just like, yeah, I actually haven having fun with it It's not a great episode, but I'm enjoying it now that you've seen it once would you still do that? Oh, yeah time travel Time travel is always one of those things that I really enjoy Thinking of like your back to the future Thinking about I think it was about time.

There's so many different good time, time-related shows that I just really enjoy. One of my favorite science fiction tropes in general is the time travel trope. You know, I love to see, time travel in alternate universes kind of go hand in hand. And it's like, I love to see what would happen if something in history were changed, something were different, or if somebody went back in time and experienced things through different lens. And, you know, so I'm I'm right there with you. I just think that my enjoyment of it was hampered by what is to come.

Like, yeah, so it's like Deep Space Nine, you know, and yeah. So. But at Face Value, trying to remove those types of things, because there's plenty of other time-related shows and movies that are so much, are they done so much better than this? Like, I think it was yesterday, I turned on the movie source code.

I don't know if you ever saw that. Jake Gyllenhaal. That was a time loop. It was kind of like a time loop where Jake Gyllenhaal's consciousness gets transported to this guy and he has like eight minutes to figure out Who planted a bomb on a train and he and it keeps blowing up. I mean, it's it's kind of like a Cross between going into different dimensions

Where he he's not actually going back in time. He's just going to a different dimension where it hasn't happened yet You are exploiting the movie for true. He's not gonna mention. But it's, but it was done in a way where like you can enjoy those things. Like I love, oh, you know what? I don't know if you ever watched the Stargate. Stargate probably did one of my favorite time loop,

which was the one where O'Neal and Teal are experiencing the same day over and over again. And it is the most hilarious Stargate episode I ever can recall. That's cool. Cause and effect in TNG, where the Enterprise is stuck in that loop. Yes.

Yes. Yes. I would love to see a lower deck style time loop show. I'm sure at some point you will. Oh, Oh, discovery did it really well. The mud. Yes. Yes, the mud one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was a great effort. Didn't didn't change the world to it as well. Or am I confusing the two? I don't remember stranger. It was in pipe pipe was the captain though at the time, I think. Because it was mud

That was Laura. It was Laura. So season one season one Yeah, he was going to the Lorca. Yeah, that's been a one. That was that was my favorite episode But there's good episode But but but to your point though Drew there's plenty of ways you could do it better However I've I've said it before I love campiness It's very cheesy. This is a, it does fall in the cheesy and campiness of it, and I enjoyed it.

It wasn't like, yeah, I mean, for cheesy and campy, I think it hit all the marks. Yeah, it did, it did. But, well, I'm looking forward to seeing future time travel episodes from the series. Yeah. It would be a nice to see he better better takes on it, right? So we, I know in the Discord channel, through, by the way, the yet another Star Trek podcast, Discord, we have one. So, join in. We love to hear from everyone.

But, there was a discussion, drew about the, um, the movies being removed from Paramount Plus. And you were wondering where they'd end up next. They ended up on HBO Max. Why? I don't know. I don't know. I just wanted to share that with you.

You were originally from the original movies? Yeah. I didn't have a answer to the follow-up question, Drew, because I was just excited to find them for you. Because Warner Brothers doesn't know what the hell they're doing. Oh, it's because it's discovery. Warner Brothers Discovery doesn't know what the hell they're doing. Star Trek Discovery.

I don't think it works. Anyways, gentlemen, next week, or we will be watching, not next week, and two weeks, we'll be discussing court martial. Kirk is accused of criminal negligence, causing the death of one of his subordinates, Lieutenant Commander Benjamin Finney, and is put on trial for his murder. I do like the emphasis of one, just one of his subordinates. It has to start somewhere.

Like when they finally took the Harvey Weinstein, it started with one. So is this like, what was the hashtag for this movement be? Ah, hashtag red shirts. hashtag red shirts. red shirt justice. Oh, even better. I got it.

Yeah. Yo man, we're going to hell. Yeah, yeah. I'm here. You are maybe. I just want justice. I'm definitely going to help. Gentlemen, anything else you wanted to talk about this lovely evening?

I miss you? Well, I miss you too, G. Or you're just talking through the listeners and you're just telling the listeners that you miss them. Why not both? Why not both? and you're just telling the listeners that you miss them. Why not both? Why not both? True.

Fair enough. Anyways, wonderful listeners. Thank you so much for tuning in to yet another Star Trek podcast. Have a good one. Bye. Bye, Rest in Peace, Kevin Conroy. Thanks for listening to yet another Star Trek Podcast, we're part of the retro sessions nowhere.

This episode was reported on November 13, 2022 and was hosted by myself Brad Drew Amigee. This episode was edited by Drew, Brad didn't write the synapses because that guy is a slacker, Amigee takes care of the art. Special thanks to William Robler Music for our music warp speed and to the stars. You can find him on SoundCloud, we'll have links in the show notes. Also special thanks to George Retau for additional artwork, he made us look like lower deck characters. You can too, hit him up on Fiverr, we'll drop a link in the show notes as well. We'd love to hear from you,

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