You Are Being Unreasonable - 010 - In which we escape Scar's fascist regime to eat bugs

Episode Date: March 15, 2018

"Get your own baby fashion, motherfucker." This week we're joined by very special guest star, Fiona Ashley, who joins us as we escape a first date by having a wee in a cab, we finally throw away that portrait of Mussolini that brings us now joy, we get disinvited from a dog wedding, and Fi provides a perfect summary of Disney's Frozen (2013) leading us to accidentally write some erotic fan-fiction. Onwards and upwards, goodbye!

Hello, driving on drugs feels better when they're prescription. All I know, the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now. Except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, right now. I feel fantastic. And I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day when I felt the way that I do right now. Hello.

Hello. And hello. Welcome to Euro being unreasonable. This week we're joined by a very special guest, our friend Fiona. Oh, that's very kind. I'm not sure that I am worthy of a standing ovation, but I'm going to stand anyway. Yeah, we're all the standing, little around the mic. We are.

Clapping. Plapping. For Fiona, who only has one name, just like Cher. And Madonna. So we're Helen Simon and Fiona today. and we're going to look at Mumsnet threads decide who's being unreasonable. We are.

Have you ever been unreasonable, Fiona? Oh, every day of my life, Simon. Oh dear. I mean, I try really hard, but it's just a natural state of being. As it is for so many, especially on Mumsnet. I can't wait until I can procreate

so I can, you know, offer something to this wonderful thread. You can even join if you don't have kids. Oh, that's nice to know. I know. It's a free country. Oh. Unbelievable.

Okay, we're going to start with a speed round. As I know, Dad's Net, that's what I want to know. And when's International Men's Day? If you can't remember that, you don't deserve to have it. We're going to speed round. Am I being unreasonable, Simon? Training toddler to settle baby. Yes.

That's too young. Yeah. Am I being unreasonable, Fiona, to ask for your shameful crushes? No, to be honest, you're not being unreasonable because everyone wants to know that shit. know that shit. Am I being unreasonable, Simon, to scrape leftover pasta bake back into the dish to eat later? No, absolutely not. Agreed. I would support that mission. Am I being unreasonable, Fiona, to be cross with my brother? I'm going to suggest, probably not. He's probably done something to make you cross. I have siblings of my own, although they are female and their four

sisters as far as I'm aware. Am I being unreasonable, Simon, to not tip? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, you should tip. Yeah. Am I being unreasonable, Fiona, to ask where your best baby grows are from? I'm going to say yes. Get your own baby fashion, motherfucker. Good. Okay, we're going to do a thread. So this week, I've chosen two threads that are choice, brilliant threads, and then Fiona's chosen two. Which are not choice and not brilliant. But still, every thread on Mumsnet is brilliant. That's true. You are all brilliant, Momsnet threaders. Just know that right now if you're listening. I hope you're not, though.

How you are. Sorry. I really hope you are. Am I being unreasonable? First date, and he's literally sat in silence. Oh dear. I'm on a first date with someone I met on plenty of fish. He seemed interested at first.

But now he have just decided he doesn't want a second date, as he's pretty much say in silence. I've asked him a million questions. questions and he responds but doesn't ask me anything back. I've just popped to the loo as I've been say in silence a minute too long. We met at 8pm. Am I being unreasonable if I say I have to get home now and bring this to a very swift close? I feel bad as he's still got half a glass of beer. He's not touched for, sorry, he's not have touched for half an hour. I'm going to need a glass of wine at home after this. Can I quickly interject before we move on into the thick of this?

Yeah, please. She says a swift end, saying that they'd met at 8pm and she's having the most dire time. When has she posted this? Quarter past 11. That is not a swift end. She's also riddled it with typos, so I feel like she's really been trying to drink through the date for the last three and a bit hours. I mean, to be fair, you'd have to be pretty pissed to go into the toilets and go into mum's net of all things to ask for advice. It's sort of shit date. So she's typing it on her phone in the loo, yeah? Yeah.

I mean, unless she's cracked a laptop out in there. She's already broken the seal. That's why she's in the toilet. It must be real. She's had that much wine. She's broken the seal. I need someone to make her feel better about her choice of leaving this man at the bar.

So he's just sitting there in silence, staring at her with the face of like Michael Shannon. Boring intensity. I have a theory. Go on. She's been there for three and a quarter hours. she can't type anymore and she thinks it's a good idea to go on mum's net

he stops drinking his beer is it possible that she has got embarrassingly drunk and he's just sitting there he didn't want the beer she was probably like I'll get around in and now he just has to sit there and he's like I don't want any more to drink but this drunk woman is on her phone

she's on the wine she's talking about having wine when she gets home what's going on and she's there like I don't know why he's not talking to me but actually it's because she's plastered and he doesn't like her. Yeah, well, she's in the loo.

He's probably on Reddit or whatever talking to his man friends finding out what he needs to do. How can I extract myself from this alteration? To be fair, it's said as well at the beginning. He was interested at first. And now that she's absolutely shit-faced, he's not. Which is fair.

We've all found people to be fine when sober and absolutely intolerable when drunk. Yeah. She does say he seemed interested at first, but now he has. have, sorry, but now he just have decided he doesn't want a second date. If he said that out loud,

that's a bit of a real life. I don't know why she's still there. But then, I don't know if he has said it out loud, because she said that he's basically sat in silence. She says this more than once. So my thought is that she is not necessarily being unreasonable. I'm sorry, I know that's the whole point of our conversation here. That's not if someone's being

unreasonable somewhere down the line, it's fine. It's more the fact that regardless of her level of unreasonableness, she's just been a bit annoying why doesn't she just leave why does she need anybody else to validate that decision this is it like neither of these people want to be on this date

both of them should leave actually I say she he also should just leave yeah I think what they should do before they went on the date is decide on some kind of veto so at some point they can just do a sign and that indicates I'm done now I want to go like if you

Simon said a sign but he just raised his hand like he was a school please miss I'd like to go home now bored now not enjoying this no second date goodbye either of them can do it

so it's fine so it's not rude yeah shall we hear from the thread yes this is exciting because this is happening you know live to the person yeah it's real time yeah it's like 24 duck that

chips and wine home a sounds perfect. I don't know if that's in this situation or forever. Forever. I don't know. Can I just clarify? Do you have to say duck that on Mum's net instead of fuck that? No, Mum's net's all about swearing. They're always branding people cunts for the most minor of indiscretions. In which case I'm very happy to report the person who is giving that advice is probably just as shitfaced as the original poster. They've had chips and wine. Yeah. Everyone's just at home alone drinking wine eating chips on Mum's Net looking for some live action entertainment. Yeah.

Right, okay, more thread. Escape, ASAP, which seems a bit much. She hasn't done a hostage situation. Climb out the window. Someone said, Rachel Green at a wedding. Deep cut. Someone said, hope you're in a cab.

She said she's on the lou, so I hope she's not in a cab. Just having a wee in a cab, because she's that drunk. And yeah, she actually doesn't realize the date has ended and he's the one who's put her in a cab because he didn't fund the second date and he was done and the man is silent because he's an Uber driver oh my gosh guest like

and she's not on a date she's just been in a cab for three hours accidentally going to the wrong peacock streams thought you met the one in hostings someone said forget whether or not he was interested he just sounds rude enjoy your wine I don't know if he does sound rude Maybe he is, I don't know

He just sounds like he's got a brooding intensity Like Christian Bale No, that's not a brooding intensity That's a domestic abuse problem Yeah, those are different But someone has said He might be the quiet unsocial type Yeah

Okay, well I don't know why that only became apparent After she got really drunk After three hours on the day Yeah And then someone else has said Well, this didn't work, did it? Onwards and Upwards, goodbye That's a great way to end a date.

Onwards and upwards, goodbye. That's what I say to all of my date that end. All of them. Onward and upwards. Goodbye. To greet a victory. And I'm saying it to them, not to me. Good luck topping this.

Shall we go onwards and upwards from here and move on to the next threat? Yes, I agree. Is it time? This is one that Fiona has chosen for us. The title is, Disinvited from a partner's friend's wedding. My DP and I have been together for a little under a year now and pretty much lived together.

I met a close friend of his in August who invited me to his wedding. He then extended the invitation via text again in December. When the invite arrived, it listed my partner only. D.P. didn't mention this until two weeks later during my birthday trip when I started talking about how excited I was to go. He said he had asked the guy and he had said, Oh, we're short on numbers, but she can come to the evening do if she likes. I thought about it and decided that I won't go to the evening event if I am not invited to the day event,

especially as the evening invite was only extended once my DP asked why I hadn't been invited. I'm the only long-term partner who has been excluded from the wedding. There was no forewarning that I was disinvited, it just happened. Because of this, we've had a couple of arguments. I was peeved that DP didn't mention it to me until the third. topic of conversation came up, irritated that D.P. didn't seem to be all that bothered, and, to an extent, I am upset that he's going when his friend has been so incredibly rude. I've managed to keep quiet about it lately, but last night we were out with some friends,

and one of them asked if I was excited about the wedding. It then became the topic of conversation for the night as they all sat around and said how rude he and his partner have been in doing this. I wanted to drop it as the topic upsets me, but I did eventually cry after we left, and told my partner I was still upset and that I couldn't understand how he was happy with going to a wedding where his friend had disinvited me with no explanation he said he's not happy about it but can't do anything about it

I feel like I'm being potentially hard work here but I did say that had I been in his position I would have politely declined but now that we're three weeks away from his friend's big day it will look horrendous if he were to decline now sorry for the babble but I guess I'm wondering if I'm being unreasonable for declining the evening invite that was only extended after D.P. asked his friend about the disinvite and

AIBU for feeling slighted. Am I being unreasonable? Shall I open the floor to you guys at this point? Because I have a lot of feelings about this, hence why I chose it as my threat. Tell us your feelings. Oh, I'm not sure we've got enough time. I'll try to summarize your feelings. Essentially, yes, she's being unreasonable. Yeah. I really do think that this has a number of reasons why the deep, sorry, the OP has a bit of an overreaction here. I mean, let's start with the fact that she's calling herself a long-term partner when they've been together a little under a year and they don't... Pretty much. Yeah, pretty much. Thank you. What is that? I don't mean to demean anybody's relationship status. You can have the strongest and most wonderful

relationship in the world that's been under a year, but it doesn't make you long-term. And that doesn't demean it. It just means that it's not long-term. yet because I think anything under a year is not long term no unless they're like 15 and then when you're 15 then that's very intense we all knew someone at school who've been with someone for 10 months and we were like oh my god you're gonna get married yes so maybe they're 15 or maybe with their dogs yeah and counting things in dog years it seems unlikely that this is a dog wedding with an evening a separate evening do yes dogs just do it all in one fell sweet yeah dog weddings just take an hour I mean

the main event of that is when dogs, you know, consummate the marriage and can't disengage from one another from their genitals for the next four and a half hours. That is the main event of a dog wedding. That is the main event. What we all look forward to. Exactly. I just think this all smacks of a newish girlfriend because let's face it, how long does it take until you meet your partner's friends? Like, it's, yeah, you don't do it on the third date, do you? It's months in. Yeah, months in. So these people have only met this new partner of their friend, like to say a few months in,

and probably drunkenly from what it sounds like, been like, yeah, mate, fucking go to our wedding. We'd love you to have you there. Well, yeah, that's my problem. She keeps calling herself disinvited, but that's not the case. She was never invited. You weren't on the invitation. Therefore, you were never invited.

No, exactly so. it was spoken verbally and then reiterated by text but there's no confirmation about how verbally it was confirmed and how by text was it a case of yeah look forward to seeing you both when not really committing was it a non-committal it might have been look forward to seeing you and because she's decided she's a serious girlfriend she's read into that the plural is us no a text invite isn't enough for a wedding that's enough for a party but not a wedding

yeah what are you having a barn dance come on this is your nuptials yeah you need a proper invitation not just a facebook invite absolutely but by no means trying to diss anybody who's having a barn dance um i think that you're totally legitimately willing you have a barn dance but don't worry if this woman feels disinvited from your barn dance she doesn't have to be there she's already been told she can't come to the evening barn dance she just can't go to the ceremony i feel a bit bad on the original poster for this but i i do feel that she is being unreasonable because Well, it sounds like she hijacked this evening with their friends and made it all about her. Oh my gosh!

Did it? Because I bet she said, oh, I was going to go to this wedding, but actually as it transpires, I'm not invited to the wedding. Yeah, everyone else tried to move the conversation on. Oh, that's rude. Okay. And then she somehow ended up in a situation where it was all anyone talked about. But I just don't imagine that they were that invested. No, it does smack of that kind of situation where someone tries to undo damage of a conversation.

do damage of a conversation that's gone on in directions that it shouldn't have by posting about something or, you know, having that text to say, oh, you know, I shouldn't have had that third glass of wine and then bitch talked about Maria's new haircut. It's got that kind of vibe. Yeah. She planned to have this long conversation. Yeah. Also, it would look horrendous if he were to decline now. I don't think it sounds like a partner wants to decline. So why is there even the suggestion that because she wishes him to, he would. That's ridiculous. It is, yeah, that is bullshit, basically, I think, to say that someone shouldn't go.

Right, so Simon and I live together and are getting married in May. Woo! I'm going. I haven't been disinvited. It's true. Sorry, I just wanted to loudly declare that, I apologize. It was very loud. We are not having a barn dance and there will not be any dogs contemplating anything.

So that's... Okay, I'm not coming anymore. That's not real loud. But the point I was going to make is that if someone that Simon knew was getting married and they invited Simon and my name wasn't on it, I wouldn't go and hijack a night out with all of our friends and then expect Simon not to go. I'd be like, that's the way it goes. But, you know, if for some reason someone did do that, I wouldn't make it the be-all-lend-all of a night out. I'd just be like, well, that's a weird turn of events, but okay. and then I wouldn't demand that you don't go.

Yeah. This woman seems deeply unreasonable. Similarly, if one of your friends had a wedding and I didn't get invited, it's fine, isn't it? But by the way, guys, that'll change once you're married. People take that shit way more seriously once people are married. Really?

Yes, because if they... We become more of a legitimate couple? No, absolutely unfairly in some circumstances, but I do think that's the case. Because if you, as a married couple, are not invited together to someone else's nuptials. It almost flies in the face of all the things that those people are potentially trying to put across

through their marriage, that they are saying to the will that we do things together. And I'm not saying that's right or wrong, I'm just saying that I think that is a commonality. Okay, so here's a suggestion. Get married to him. Yeah, shotgun wedding. Get pregnant, original poster.

Get the fuck knocked up. You've got three weeks. Come on. You can need to get one of those tests that they advertise on YouTube where she's like chatting to her friend over breakfast she's like, I'm pregnant, 48 hours. It's like, why are you telling your mates?

Clearly dubbed. Do we want to check in on the posts here? Yeah, let's do it quick. OMG, get a flipping grip. You were probably invited until they actually worked out how many they could invite. It wasn't done deliberately to spite you.

Have you ever even met the bride? You're spotting yourself by not going to the evening due and then a correction. Spiting. There we go. I mean, I feel like that does say, Yeah, just go to the evening, dear.

They didn't have room for you. You know, someone has to be sacrificed. Sacrifice, goodness me. That's true. Someone has to be home, drawn and quartered to make up the numbers. I have to get rid of someone, get rid of the dead weight. There is another response, which is contrary to the first. It says, if I were your partner, I would decline the invitation too.

I don't blame you for not wanting to attend the evening due either. Joining your DP and his mates with their partners after they've been having fun all day sounds awful. I'd return the favour if you and D.P. get married too. Oh, you're heavenful fend that you have to spend time with people who've had a nice day. Yeah. Oh goodness me. Imagine joining people who are having fun. I mean, and as much, don't get me wrong, as much as I love weddings and I've had some wonderful times at the few weddings I've been to,

like, I do feel like things naturally ramp up in the evening. The day is beautiful, it's lovely, it's special, but it's also quite intimate. so if you aren't intimately involved there's not that much to glean from it and therefore if you're not that involved why not come to the evening where you can get lashed, get dancing and make some bonds with those drunk friends

who you clearly don't even know that well and you don't have to listen to anyone's awkward speech you don't have to laugh at the best man telling a joke about someone that you barely know doing something from 20 years before you were relevant to their life you just get to go to the bit that makes sense for you to be at absolutely there is a couple there's two more that I would like to read you from the

thread okay one that completely confirms what we said you're not a long-term partner you haven't even been with your BF a year yet which means when you met this friend it had been a couple of months maximum good thank you we appreciate that and your very concise opinion but the one that I wants to end on was this take which is it's shitty to invite to you and then not actually invite you I can see how you would be annoyed about that. But beyond that, I think you're being precious. You have met the groom once. Am I being unreasonable to think that Elsa was actually a bit of a shit? She ran away, leaving her land in deep winter, then was prancing about on a mountaintop,

singing about how wonderful and free she was without giving her people a second thought. Let it go, let it go. She struck her sister twice. Okay, the first was a mistake, but you think she'd have learnt her lesson by the second time when Anna came to ask for her help she basically told her to fuck off then created a snow monster to chase her over a precipice after striking her as above plus who'd be happy living in an ice palace alone in the mountains how did she eat what did she do all day the other bit that bothers me is the sexy hip-swinging walk she does when she first puts on the frozen dress totally unnecessary why Just why?

Possibly overthinking this. Now, I know that this is to do with the Disney film Frozen. Yes. Which I haven't seen. Should we summarise it for you? Is that useful? Yeah, please. Despite my pitch perfect rendition of Let It Go just a moment ago.

It was beautiful. I haven't seen it. You did well to sing Let It Go, because usually you sing the words Let It Go to the tune Let It Be by the Beatles. Let it go, let it go, let it go, let it go. girl there will be a winter let it go okay that was also me there are two sisters who are both princesses their father and mother are the king and queen of their country and they are called Elsa and Anna so these two sisters coexist in this wonderful princess land until one day the parents find out through a misadventure that Elsa has powers of snow and winter and

controlling the troll through her hands and it's all very dangerous and they take her to go and see the trolls and they try and bind her powers and basically say look we've got to try and remove the memories so they get rid of Anna's memories of knowing that Elsa has powers like eternal sunshine

kind of yes oh nice parallel and Elsa's powers cannot be bound because she's been born with them so they basically have to try and bring her up to conceal her powers her true For some reason I thought the women in Frozen were lesbian lovers. Why did I think that?

Because all Disney films are about romantic interludes. I was going to say because of the male gaze. That too. I thought it was about coming out. I thought that's what the song Let It Go was about. It's a very common take and it's also been adopted as an anthem for many. You know, let it go. So this is all going on.

all going on, unfortunately, spoiler alert, the king and queen die, and Elsa becomes queen of their country. Oh, sweet. Yeah. And that's where the poster joins us because then Elsa runs away and strikes her sister.

She loses control of her powers, basically, accidentally plunges her country into an all-encompassing winter, similar to the winter we've just had a week ago in England, which no one shut the fuck about. Yeah, that was the same. It was the same and it was basically like Jadis from Narnia it was always winter and never Christmas um

sorry but that's basically how it felt we're now in spring now by the way guys any international readers I mean listeners you can tell we're in spring it will be Christmas eventually as well I'm sure you said that like you weren't sure I'm not I don't trust anything in this economy Anywho, can we return to this momentary post if you feel like you've got all the information in the climate? I know exactly what Frozen is now. Okay. You still need to watch it.

The important thing is, Buzzels are actually a bit of a shit. That's the question here. So she becomes queen and then immediately runs away. She loses control of her powers in public. Nobody else knows that she has these powers. and she is so stressed and her powers play up when she's stressed and anxious and scared. So at her

coronation... That's what happens to me. Me too. Okay, so striking probably just a... Strike that. Strike it from the record. Whoa. What's the next thing? She's really sexy.

No, before that it's Who would be happy living in an ice palace alone? That doesn't make anyone a shit. No, it really doesn't. Especially when you consider she's already been kept in seclusion. her entire life from the age of what like eight onwards after she accidentally nearly killed her sister. She can eat the snow, not the yellow snow.

No, never the yellow snow. Who'd be happy living in an ice palace alone in the mountains? This is not a fair question to say it someone's a shit, just because someone's happy alone. And especially after living under duress. Yeah. Yeah. How did she eat?

Well, as we know, she ate the snow, but not the yellow snow. But regardless, I would like to also say that's irrelevant because why does it matter how she eats, that doesn't have any impact on how much of a shit she is. I eat all the time, and I'm not at all the shit. Unless she was eating the original poster's firstborn, maybe that's the issue, I don't know, but unlikely because she's an animated character.

I'd be very intrigued as to know how she got that firstborn, maybe through the snow monster. Yeah. And then what did she do all day? Again, doesn't make her a shit. She probably's having a great time. I don't know, reading, singing. She can do whatever she wants all day.

If she's in seclusion, an ice palace that the original poster doesn't even approve of, makes no odds to her. She makes that little snowman friend, doesn't she? Oh, I think she's having sexual discovery. With Olaf? No, definitely not with Olaf because she's potentially in Frozen 2 going to have a girlfriend. Well, if she can make people out of snow, she could make a sexy snow woman. That's very true.

Also, she did conjure Olaf's nose, which is a carrot. I'm not suggesting any kind of sexual innuendo here. More so the fact that she could probably conjure food. That's a good point, yeah, exactly. Sorry, continue. Or a carrot to be used in place of a... A bit of bloody cold carrot And then the final question

The other bit that bothers me Is the sexy hip-swinging walk she does When she first puts on the frozen dress It's totally unnecessary Why, just why? Because she's going on I'm sorry, that is a patriarchal Inspired Response original poster

Yeah If someone wants to swing their hips And walk down the street Like they're fucking owning it Why the fuck not? Also, it's not shaming Elsa Yeah! Well, she's in the mouth

She's not doing it for anyone but her. No one can see her. She doesn't sing, let it go for the streets of Tottenham. If she did, that would be fine too. Yeah, absolutely. But I'm just trying to suggest that, you know, the implication is there that Elsa is doing that sexy hip-swinging dance for the benefit or the attention of others.

Whether or not she was is irrelevant. She wasn't. She was doing it for her. Yeah. You go, Elsa. Yes, Team Elsa. Original poster, unreasonable. Should we just do a quick round of what the thread have said?

Agreed. If not, by the way, if not, it better be a high percentage of mums who agree that this is unreasonable. They seem to be getting into other Disney movies from what I can say, like the Lion King. I was just going to... I agree, and so did my then five-year-old

who didn't want to continue watching it. Classic woke child there. No, I don't want to watch this. I'm concerned about the way she swings her hips. I think she's actually shit. So, great, well done having a fake five-year-old.

Bit harsh to blame a child for the moral weakness of running from a problem when your dad is dead and directly or indirectly it's your fault. Okay. Oh, do you know what?

That's actually in response to the Lion King. Oh, it is. It's a lot of the Lion King. Do people think Simba isn't reasonable? Yeah, because he runs away and leaves his family behind. I'm reading this over

Helen's shoulder. It's disturbing. to take over. He's a baby. Yeah, he's a child. He's a baby. I'm so cross. Where is a sympathetic mum in all this thread? Oh, there isn't one. The only take that we can find that sympathetic is sympathetic to Simba and it says Simba was emotionally abused as a child by his uncle. So on that, let's move away from this thread because it's got really dark really quickly. Just on a quick final note, I'd like to say Sarabi, the mother of Simba, no doubt, despite having suffered under the reign of Scar and his hyenas, would have been happier to know that her.

some was elsewhere and safe. She didn't have that luxury. She thought he was dead. But if she had known he was alive, I like to think Sarabi would have been like, yes, Simba, don't you be here under this dictatorship, this fascist rule? I'm glad you're with Timoan and Pumber,

living the high life, being free, eating grubs, singing songs, and running away from real life. Because actually real life is pretty fucking shit right now. Which it was at Pride Rock. The end. The Tumon and Pumba bit is like the best bit, so who wouldn't want to be there?

My favourite part is when they sing the bacon song. Yeah, man. Why don't they just, everyone just, everyone run away to be with Timon and Pumba. Okay, I've got, I've got one post that's actually about Frozen. And we're going to end on this one instead. Okay. If I looked as good in a dress like that, I'd probably do some sexy hip swinging about the place too. I would just like to say, poster, that you probably do look that good in that dress, or your equivalent of it.

and you should be wearing the shit out of it all over the place swinging your hips all over Tottenham if that's where you are I don't know why Tottenham is the focus I'm not sure it just seems like the place you know anyway I imagine that all of Mum's that live in Middle England I don't imagine there's a single mum's that are in Tottenham and I know that's unreasonable but let's move on okay Fiona's thread

now this is going to seem like a complete utter anti-climax basically the thread is am I unreasonable to wonder why Marie Condo transforms lives. On a recent thread about self-help books that have transformed your life, the Marie Kondo book came up a lot. I've got the book on Kindle, but now needs some inspiration to read and do it.

So tell me how it had transformed your life and home. Why did you get as far as getting the book with no intention to read it until Monsnet gave you some tips on why to read it? And do it. Yeah, I think if you read the book, you might be motivated to do the things in the book. Oh my goodness Basically

You are not unreasonable To wonder why it transforms lives Just read it But you should just figure that shit out By actually engaging with the text That you have no doubt purchased For your Kindle Simon

I have a question Who is Marie Kondo She is a Japanese Life organiser And author And interior kind of designer and stylist type person. There's a lifestyle that is

involved in her book, of only one of which I'm aware. I'm sure she might have written more, and I'm probably incredibly dumb and dim on this subject. But it's all about trying to minimalise your life to make it better and nicer.

Oh, is this about throwing away things that don't bring you joy? Yes. Yes, I know her. Yeah, she says, roll your pants up really tight and then put them in a little box, and then throw away all the stuff that makes you miserable. What was a pant?

Never mind. There's definitely a thing about how you organise your pants, so I don't know. It's all about rolling things instead of folding them, so you can see them all at the same time. So instead of having all your pants flat, you've got them rolled facing up. Organise all your things like you're in a top-down video. Yes, you should read the book.

Like, just read the Marie Kondo book and see if it changes your life. If it doesn't, buy another book. Guys, on that note, one of the comments on the thread, I read it. Still about eight times too much stuff in the head. house, but my socks are beautifully folded. No, you're supposed to roll them! Roll your socks!

Why did you even read it? Somebody else has put, it has transformed my life, and I say that without hyperbole. But how? How? How is that question? There's more. I have been able to realise what really, really matters to me, and just how much I had kept that was either unimportant now

or actively made me sad. It has led to me moving to a smaller house, that ticks all the boxes that really matter to us and none of the superfluous ones. Couldn't say that. There have been real and very positive ramifications. Like, I've got a load of stuff that I don't need and I'm sure that if I read the book I'd be more equipped to just part with things that I don't need. Like all the clothes that are too big and all the clothes that are too small and all the other tat.

Things that make you sad, like the giant. But I don't keep things that actively make me sad. so I worry about that woman for having so much stuff that actively made her sad. She's just been holding on to that giant portrait of Mussolini even though it brought her no joy. I'd like to know how she came across it in the first place. It was a gift from an ex-lover who broke her heart.

That's why it's so sad. Was the ex-lover Mussolini? Do you have a portrait of me? No, weirder still, the ex-lover had nothing to do with Mussolini. Just a bad gift. That is a terrible gift. Good God. No wonder he's a little bit.

next lover or she. I think this person would do better to read the book that they have thought and then see if that motivates them to do the thing the book tells them to do. Yeah, it doesn't sound that hard to do the thing the book tells you to do. I haven't read it and I think I could give it a crack. Yeah. It's just very confusing to me why you would actually get a book and then not read it and ask for inspiration on how to read it. Don't get me wrong, I have books and I've not read them but it's because I have have so many books that I want to read. I don't need the inspiration to read them.

I need the time and I need the, you know, the ability to set myself aside and put off washing dishes. So I'm like, fuck this, I need some literature. God damn it. If anything, it sounds like Marie Kondo's book isn't bringing her joy.

Maybe it's actively making her sad. Yeah, she needs to throw that shit out the window. Oh, I think you are hitting a nail on the head. Throw it on the fire and take the car down. She used to fold the pages or roll them like socks. It's a Kindle book though. So maybe she used to Marie Kondo her Kindle first.

Get rid of all the e-books that are just clutter. Yeah, Marie Kondo, a refund from Amazon. Basically, you're not unreasonable to ask that question or to wonder why Marie Kondo transforms lives. But you are unreasonable to expect somebody else to do the dirty work of trying to make you understand it because you can't be asked to read your Kindle. Yeah, just read the book.

Yeah. Should we end with one more speed round? Am I being unreasonable, unwanted, self-invited house guest, how to refuse, Simon? No. Am I being unreasonable about other people's child, Fiona? Never. Am I being unreasonable to think the Beckham kids are never off a plane to go to school, Simon? No. They always seem to be on planes.

Although maybe they go to school on the planes. On the planes? When you've got a private tutor. Oh, pilot's cool. Am I being unreasonable, vomit in restaurant, Fiona. Oh. You are not being unreasonable, friend. I must say vomited.

Oh, yeah, actually. That depends. Are you vomiting? I'm being unreasonable, fucking yodal twat. No. There we go. Good night. Thank you for having me.

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I feel fantastic. And I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think of how I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, Right now, right now