You Are Being Unreasonable - 014 - In which the Stink Judge decides when we can eat

Episode Date: April 19, 2018

"Am I being unreasonable to sing an adapted version of Blurred Lines to my cat?" We're back! After our break, MumsNet overfloweth with baffling threads. This week, we replace /everything/ with Peppa Pig, we eat a Tudor buffet at our desks in the office, we go to Robin Thicke-friendly churches, and Detective Pikachu investigates our local corner shop.

Hello, driving on drugs feels better when they're prescription. All I know is the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful. I feel fantastic and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, right now. I feel fantastic and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day when I felt a way. Hello.

We're back. We had a break. But now we're back. Yeah, sorry, I went to Scotland. This is You Are Being Unreasonable, the podcast about people being unreasonable, or not on mumsnet.com. Yeah, it's a forum for mums and mum sympathisers. Mum's sympathiser makes it sound like, I don't know, it doesn't sound good, that's all I'm saying. So we had a week off, and the previous week we did Grandsnet, and this week our cup runneth over with people being unreasonable.

so I've had to just choose the ones that I think are going to make for the best discussion. Prime cuts. If anyone is looking for some more unreasonable people, just have a quick look at Mum's net. There's loads of them at the moment. Shed loads. Do you just look at the new ones

or do you go deep into the archives seeking out the most unreasonable people in history? It's interesting you should say that. I have been looking at them as they come up week by week. Yeah. But there's one I've got this week, which is a bit of an oldie. that I stumbled across because

I'm not really sure how. I didn't go seeking through the archives. It gives there'd be a lot of labour to dig into the archives for the... So because I don't have a Mum's Net account on my laptop, I have to go Googling threads that I've seen to try and pull them up again rather than browsing the whole lot. And then I came across one that has a similar to ice school to one I've found, but is a different thread from a different time.

And I decided to just go with that one, but it's old. But the others are all up to date, and the speed rounds are tip-top. fresh off the press. Hot unreasonableness. So now that we've shown you behind the curtain. Yeah, don't look behind there again. There's nothing to see there. Shall we begin with a speed round? Yes. Am I being unreasonable to stop people making memories? Like a supervillain, yes. Am I being unreasonable, repeal the eighth? No. Am I being unreasonable, eBay?

being held to ransom over feedback. No. Am I... Am I being unreasonable to put my career before my child? Yeah, yeah. There's a lot to unpack there. There is. But I can only give yes or no.

Am I being unreasonable? What milk do you give your children? Yes. You should know. Am I being unreasonable to sing an adapted version of blurred lines to my cat? Third lines Pard lines Nice

Out of character for the speed round I'm going to see if It has got the lyrics Because she's my good girl She is my cookie My cookie kitty Doesn't have any more of the lyrics I don't think that's unreasonable

No I sang the An adapted version of What is it? The Colonel Bogie March Yes you did To one of our cats The other day

So that was a treat Except that's in the public domain, I think, in blurred lines, is not. Oh no, do you think she now owes Robin Thick money? Yeah. Unreasonable. Imagine having to pay a check to Robin Thick. Let's do a full thread. Am I being unreasonable to wonder why family-friendly doesn't seem to include older people?

Just thinking about a couple of threads recently that really seem to reflect the way society is going in relation to older people. Libraries need more families using them, so older people will have to put up with noise and racket. A restaurant is family friendly, so if you don't want to have kids running around and screaming while you're eating, go somewhere more expensive. Churches want to be more welcoming towards children, so that means everyone else has to put up with their experience being ruined and drowned out by young ones. There seems to be this attitude in some quarters that anyone who object, or makes any kind of request for a bit of consideration is some kind of tweed wearing 1930s school mum. Am I being unreasonable to think it's possible to welcome young people into places while also giving older people equal right to enjoyment? So this is why the elderly voted for Brexit.

Yeah, because the church was over on screaming children. What a nightmare. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry, but young people are going to keep on coming and they're going to provide more business to these businesses and religions. Yeah. I get the thing this person doesn't like children very much, so it's interesting that she has, or he has chosen to come to Mum's Net to express this view. Yeah, it might have been better off on Grands Net

if you're trying to appeal to the elderly. Maybe, yeah. But then that also assumes that all of the older people hate all of the younger people. There's lots of places where young people don't go, like retirement homes. There's a lot of restaurants that are not fast. family friendly. I don't know why you'd have to go to one that's full of children or go to one that's

more expensive and there are plenty that are not family friendly, but are not, you know, mission starred. Like, a weatherspins. Weather spoons are family friendly. Ostensibly, yes. They're not friendly to anyone, really. I wouldn't take a child in there. No, that's very true. For one thing, they're huge and the child would get lost. Yes, I've never been to a small world. Huge, yeah. They get lost among the tables and end up getting a great deal on a cheap burger. And very often if a place sells food and says it's family friendly, it usually, not usually, but often, it has a children's menu where kids like eat free or it's really cheap and they'll be like colouring pens and an ice cream maker. And I don't think that place is aimed at an older person. But there are lots of places that don't have colouring pencils or ice cream makers or kids.

kids eat free deals. More places than not, I would hazard. Maybe that's somewhere that this person would feel more comfortable. Yeah. And with that one in particular, it's a business. If those are the people who are spending money in that business, then that's what the business are going to do, and if you don't want to spend your money there, go somewhere else. I can see the issue with libraries, but again... Those are places for young people too. Yes. If libraries were just being used by the elderly people, then all the libraries would shut down, not just the ones that already have. Yeah. And that would be bad. And then people would be complaining about children using screens all the time and why can't they go to the library like I did, but I was a girl. There's

no winning. No. Also, I thought churches, as a rule, offer children's activities and children's services. Yeah. Yeah, you'll have a Sunday school or what have you to take the kids out of the elderly's hair. Yeah. So unless this woman has been going to Sunday school and then be like, oh, for heaven's sake, why is it all puppets and stories and children? Maybe she's a Sunday school teacher. Maybe she is. She's a Sunday school teacher and afterwards she likes to have a very affordable roast. Why did you all come here? And do some colouring in. What are you doing here? No, I can kind of see her point. We went to the pub last night. There was a child screaming and knocking over Jenga blocks, which wasn't my idea of a great time. But I wasn't bothered by it. I was just

a bit like, well, that's too noisy. But it could have been too noisy if it been loads of men talking loudly about how great they are. Yeah. Yeah, it's just people who are too noisy and children have poor impulse control so that they're usually culprits. Yeah, but you know who else has poor impulse control? Men. Robin Thick. Robin Thick. I would far see to go to a place that was family friendly than a place was Robin Thick friendly, special Robin Thick. Mick meal. Yeah, I don't want to go. Imagine they've got a poster of Robin Thick in the door just to let people know that they're Robin Thick friendly. Special Robin Thick church service where they've got pictures of the Virgin Mary with their tits out because that's what Robin Thick

likes. We're just trying to appeal to Robin Thick. Why can't we live in a world where older people and Robin Thick can coexist? Yeah. And now Robin Thick will go out for Sunday school. and Robin Fitt takes a hand at the synchialty tune goes into the vestry follows her with that leery pigeon look Shall we see what the thread says I have noticed this about museums

So many are now geared up for kids With really dumbed down explanations of stuff And hands-on things I find it very rare To have some decent displays written for adults Which you actually learn something I think this person's going to the wrong museums or they're going to the right museums, but the wrong bits.

Yeah. I went to Eureka, and it was so dumbed down. I had to go inside a giant mouth to learn about teeth, instead of just reading a placar. Eureka's a great place in Halifax. It's like a kid-friendly museum of science and stuff. It's great. Word on the street is that you can't go to Eureka

unless you have a child with you, so actually that would prove the original poster's point that it's not fair enough. older people. Yes. Yeah, that's why we've never been and why I haven't been since I was a child. But there was a giant mouth and I did get inside it. Let's see what else the thread has to say. The non-nice version, churches, libraries, pubs, etc. can't rely on old folk to sustain their businesses. Yeah, that's what I said. They typically go out less than families with young children. They might have more money, but they're less willing to spend it. That one only

really applies to pubs. And it won't be that long until they're either requiring care that stops them from getting out much at all, or dead. So places have to aim themselves at a younger market if they want any chance of survival. There is, of course, a middle ground between poorly behaved children running riot and a church congregation about to shuffle off this mortal coil, but I suppose it's properly difficult for places to get the right balance without upsetting someone. And from a business perspective, some execras probably decides it's preferable to upset the old folk and pander to the young families. Wow. Someone else has said, family friendly as code for good for kids if for whatever reason you don't want to be around kids

you can take it as code for not for you that's what i did before i had kids yeah it really means kid friendly yeah kids just come from families yeah it doesn't mean take your great aunt dot and yeah it doesn't mean take my family because there's no kids in my immediate family yeah sometimes when we're at home and it's just me and simon and the cats i describe us as a family but i wouldn't expect to be able to take the cats to the pub and be catered for because you need to know how to interpret family where are the cat biscuits

can we have some cat biscuits from there let's move on nicely to our next thread am I being unreasonable dogs everywhere loads of shops bars and restaurants are now allowing dogs I'm very allergic and one of my

DC is too it's so widespread now such little thought for those with allergies am I being unreasonable Maybe not. People are allergic to dogs. You'd think this is the same as the kid one. Yeah. But people are allergic to dogs and people legit don't like dogs for good reason. And it's a bit different as well. If a place says that it's family friendly friendly until 7pm then all the kids have to sod off.

The kids are gone at 7 so you can go in. But if a place says it's dog friendly until 7pm then all the dogs have to sod off. If you're really allergic, there'll still be... There'll be hundreds of dogs in there. No, the dogs will be gone, but they're fur. and saliva and whatever it is people have allergies to won't necessarily be gone. Yeah. I am interested which restaurants are allowing dogs now.

I don't know. Jamie's Italian. It's going out of business. Because it didn't allow dogs. Oh no. There you go. The dog pound is strong. Greg's?

Is Greg's a restaurant? I don't think it is a restaurant. This is not my first time on a podcast saying Gregs is not a restaurant. This definitely came up when I did the improv London. London podcast. McDonald's describes itself as a restaurant. Does it allow dogs? I don't know.

I just feel that this is a more legit problem. But, again, seems to be wildly exaggerated, because I can't think of any, I can't think of any shops either that allow dogs. So the idea that there are dogs everywhere. No, you still see a fair few dogs tied up outside shops. Yeah. You see dogs in pubs right enough. Yeah.

Oh, from the thread, garden centres allow dogs. cow dogs, so fair enough. Well that seems legit. They're quite big open spaces with outdoor spaces. Yeah. Potential for allergy, allergen stuff there is minimized. That's very true. But no cat friendly spaces.

No, why is that? Is it because cats are naturally combative? Yeah, I think if we try to take the cats to the garden centre, they'd be furious. They've never been in a garden. Well, they'd still be furious. Yeah, I think they might run away. What else from the thread? Assistance dogs are fine, but I don't like other dogs in shops and cafes.

Barking, crotch, sniffing, dribbling, yuck. Sorry, I had drifted off. Was that describing the rubbing thick bar? Yes, yes it was. I love seeing dogs out and about with their humans. Ha ha, ha. Very quirky. Yeah.

What a quirky way of putting that. I bet that person loves their dog. Someone has said, where is this? I want to move there. Where? The land of dogs Yeah, the land where dogs are everywhere The Isle of Dogs

Wes Anderson's Isle of Dogs This is just garbage This person thinks there are dogs everywhere But I don't think there are dogs everywhere No, I don't think there are dogs everywhere Are they being unreasonable Uh, to not want dogs everywhere Yeah

No Are they being unreasonable to claim that dogs are everywhere Yeah, to claim that there are dogs everywhere It's not accurate Are dogs being unreasonable? Yeah, dogs can be quite yappy there's only one good dog as far as I'm concerned and that's my brother's dog

she's great she is very good also that dog from Babe who was initially combative towards Babe but then warmed to him yes that's the film went on because Babe was taking their job as a sheep dog yeah but Babe proved themselves

in the end as we know I feel like there's probably some bigger point that we can try to make about Babe and capitalism and redundancy but let's just say dogs enough of dogs that'll do dogs that'll do am I being unreasonable eating in office way before and after lunchtime is antisocial a few people in the office eat at about 11 a.m. and 3 p.m. I wouldn't mind so much but the food is

smelly and they are noisy eaters cutlery on a plate like they're playing a drum am I being unreasonable to think eating at your desk should just be limited to around lunchtime? Yes I was eating a big bag of pretzels which I've had in my desk for a couple of weeks now just working away at it over a period of weeks just plugging away getting the job done yeah and I was hungry at 4 o'clock so I started eating these pretzels at my desk while working well they smelly and noisy I mean there were pretzels so no I mean there's some crunch to them but no fair enough it's fine just ignore I

suppose if it is smelly it's different I don't see how it's worse if someone eat something smelly at 11 or 3 than if someone eats smelly at half past 1. Yeah, yeah. I work with a lot of people who like to microwave their tinned fish. Yeah. And I don't want them to do it ever, ever, ever, ever.

But, to be honest, I would rather that they did it at 11 or at 3 because at 11 or 3, I'm not going to be trying to eat, so it's not going to put me off my lunch. Maybe we should have some sort of system where we stagger things, depending on how stinky your lunch is, so that you're not stinking the place out when other people are trying to eat, their lunch. Yeah, you arrive at work and your lunch gets given to the stink judge who will

judge how stinky it is. Yeah. And tell you when you can eat it. They put together a rotor to determine when people can eat their things. Yeah, so if you've got like a salad or some tomato soup, you can probably eat your lunch whenever because that's not going to stink the place out. Yeah, you're good to go. You've got a good eight-hour window in which to eat that. Yeah. But if you've got like a, I don't know, tin of macros, that you want to put in the microwave and then top with red onion and garlic. The stink judge says

no, you can eat that at 12 to 1 and everyone else will go on their lunch break. You also have to use this for breeze to get the smell out afterwards. I've been the stink judge. This is the sound of a gavel, I am the stink judge. I also wonder if maybe the problem here is just eating at desks. I know that sometimes you have to eat at desks. Like where I work there is not a massive amount of staff can't

space so people eat at their desks but surely the problem is just people eating at their desks the time doesn't seem to be the problem if it's about noise and food i don't know why it matters to her when yeah i mean if we're going to use the language of capitalism it's more productive and efficient to let people eat at their desks because it means they don't leave and stop working like i worked somewhere where you couldn't eat or drink at your desk because it was a conservation area the whole office um so you know people take breaks more frequently pop out to eat stuff going down to the cafe no one got anything done sounds great it was great let's see what the threat says not for the employer uh i don't think anyone should be eating full meals at their desk

at any time it's not hygienic it's not nice for other people workplaces don't give lunch breaks because they're benevolent they do it because they have to people work better if they step away from work and actually take a break. Yes, that is true, but that doesn't mean ban people eating at their desks. Well, if you want to go on a healthy jog during your lunch hour, and so you use up your lunch hour jogging, and then you eat at your desk. I don't know. You're being unreasonable.

Who says lunchtime has to be a fixed time anyway, unless the nature of your work or workplace tick takes it. I get hungry about every two to three hours, so I often have my main lunch at 12, something else mid-morning and something mid-afternoon. Just grazes like a cat. I'd find that more annoying. If someone had a big meal at 11 or 3, I'd be like, okay, whatever, do what you want. But if someone was grazing constantly, I was trying to get work done, and there they were.

And the people who graze were people who eat things that they believe to be healthy, and it's not so like popcorn. Popcorn's not healthy. Just because it's got fewer calories in a bag of crisps. It's not healthy. And popcorn's got a really strong smell. The same people that, like, crack out the chocolate-covered rice cakes, like, oh, I'm being good. Like, if you're being good, you just wouldn't have a fucking snack now, would you? You're not a baby.

It sounds like they're eating the wrong things. Like, you get hungry when your body's not got enough of a certain, you know, food group. Yeah. So it sounds like they're just not getting enough, I don't know, veg or protein. I see this a lot. Again, I am in an environment where a lot of people follow Sliming World in a way that is not quite how Sliming World intended. and so just because on slimming worlds you don't have to measure out your potato or your pasta or your lean meat they're like oh well I can eat as much of that as it takes me to feel full

yeah you've told me you can eat if you don't ever have any vegetables your body will keep saying like something's missing something's missing and then if you fill up on yogurts and popcorn your body's not going to stop saying that so all day long there is a constant stream of people eating things and then talking about how they're good things that are free because you can eat as many of them as you want. I just think, if you had just had an apple at 11 o'clock, you wouldn't be hungry now. Yeah, we're going into Hellsie's Slimming World Corner here. Sorry. Is it right that you can eat as many pork pies as you want? No. Are they free? No. Is it pork? It's pork. You can eat as much pork as you want.

I do think that some of the interpretations of this that I have heard are not strictly as the plan intended. So please don't take my word for any of this. I'm pretty sure on Slimming World, you can eat as much pork as you want. The entire suckling pig. You can have as much pork as you like and as much pasta as you like and as many potatoes as you like and you will continue to lose weight. Yes, please. So the thing about this is that is basically Simon's diet. Hey. He's a slim man. Oh, you don't eat lots of pork and potatoes. I don't eat exclusively pork and potatoes. That's true. I've gone off topic here. Eating at your desk in a shared office is blur. The smell, the noise, the talking with the mouthful, the encrusted food on the keyboard,

the dirty plates left on the side. Ten flipping minutes in the staff room won't kill your productivity. If you've got encrusted food on your keyboard, that's pretty round. Leaving dirty plates on the side. It's like some sort of chewed a buffet in the workplace. It's like flinging chicken bones over your shoulder and then tapping away at your emails some Can I just use your keep Why is it covered in spaghetti bowlers? People who eat smelly food at their desk have no consideration for others. Someone said, okay, fine, even if you haven't got a canteen,

have you got a breakout room, and then someone said, I've never heard of a breakout room. It sounds like a prison. No, that's the opposite of what a prison would have. Why would a prison have a dedicated breakout room? That's just the exit to the prison. It's like an escape room where the prisons are doing really well at working together. and problem solving can just cut their jail terms short.

Eating at your desk should be banned for all sorts of reasons, not least that you have and are entitled by law to have a proper break. A biscuit is fine. Okay? Cool. Depends what you put on that biscuit. Yeah, I suppose if you crack out like a little cracker, you're like, oh, I'm just having a biscuit.

But then you load it up with a tin of sardines. Yeah, then you put mackerel on it or something. The way people nurse their bowls of musley for 20 minutes, clink clink clink completely oblivious if they must get it over and done with quickly this has really taken a turn to other people like me who just have an issue with the eating habits of their colleagues okay so was the original poster being unreasonable yeah yeah i agree let's do another thread am i being unreasonable to absolutely loathe Pokemon and think it is horrendously

unethical DCs are currently obsessed with Pokemon age four and six. As are all of their school friends. Card trading, etc. is actively encouraged at school and supported as a playtime activity. The cards I had less of an issue with. But when I watch this on TV with them, it seems little more than glorified dog fighting. In essence, on this show, they catch wild creatures, store them in a ball, bring them out to fight whenever they wish, normally because the trainer's ego has been dented, until one of the Pokemon gets seriously hurt and they pop them back into a ball until the next battle. The creature has no choice in any of it as far as I can tell.

I'm probably overthinking this, but nothing about it seems appropriate for primary age children to me. This is back to Mum's Neck classic. This is an up-to-date thread. The one that I picked from the past is not this one. Oh wow. And when I was in primary school, we were trading Pokemon cards. Pokemon's big, you know, it's back.

It's because they had like 150 new Pokemon every year. There's like thousands of Pokemon now. I remember when there was 151. It was relatively easy to catch them all. Now there's thousands. Just another way that the younger generation are being dicked over. The gulpose keep moving. We only had to catch 151.

They've got to catch thousands. Yeah, thousands of Pokemon. There's a new game that came out recently. It's called Detective Pikachu, and it features a Pikachu who can talk and wears a little Sherlock Holmes hat and solve crimes because he's a detective. This is adorable!

Yeah, but he's quite different from other Pikachu in that... He doesn't live in a bull and doesn't have to go dog fighting. Yeah, you know, Pikachu's normally just say their own name. Pikachu, Pikachu, but this one can talk and enjoys coffee. Oh, what's suave sophisticate? So I can't help but feel this changes the whole Pokemon landscape because evidently Pokemon have the capacity for human level intelligence. Sherlock Holmes' level intelligence, no less.

Are you on the OP's side? Yeah, pretty much. There's a system of slavery and subjugating Pokemon to your will. Wow. There's a lot going on in this post. So can we just go through and unpick some bits and pieces? Mutu speaks as well. Oh, well.

I see. Pokemon 150. Right, so card trading is actively increasingly. encouraged at school. That seems weird. I don't think that's true. What sort of school is this? Pokemon cards aren't cheap.

I mean, they're not massively expensive, but... I think the... When I was at school, they're always very mindful that some people came from families where there was no disposable income whatsoever. Yeah, but if the head is trying to get their hands on some Pokemon cards, it's trying to build their collection. They would actively encourage it.

They're after that golden cherry's art. So, it's actively encouraged at school, which suggests that it can't be a common perception of things that it's not appropriate for primary school-age children, but just because something's a commonly held belief doesn't mean it's a good belief. We know that. She was letting them play this game, and only then watched it on TV with them.

So that seems back to front. I don't know. Maybe not. I feel like if you don't have the context of what it is, then why are you collecting all these cards? It's futile if you don't know, I don't know. I don't think kids particularly care about the narrative that much. I think it is the trading of the cards, that's important,

and the catching of the Pokemon. Well, you go catch them all, hells, they're everywhere. And then she's talking about how they only have battles because the trainer's ego has been dented. Which, I don't know, it just seems like a really... No, that's true as well. Well, like, Pokemon trainers, you know, just want to be the, from memory, Pokemon masters, get all the badges.

They want to be the very best. They want to be the very best. Yeah. Got to catch them all. And why? Just to gain glory, to gain kudos. They're not gathering the Pokemon to take the, look, to some kind of farm where they can live out their days in peace. That's just a euphemism for euthanasia.

You do know that, right? Okay. And there are dedicated poker hospitals where you take your Pokemon in and get them healed. Like, these are all over the place. It is like dogfighting. I just don't know that I... It's like dog fighting except with little electric mice. And squirtle.

Manky was my favourite. This is a monkey. A pig monkey. Yeah, I mean, if we look... If we look at some of these Pokemon, like some of them are basically human. like Mr. Mime. He even has a title. That's true.

Most primary school-age children don't use the title. Ditto is the one that's able to mimic someone else. If I could mimic a person and just live a human life. You really brought me around to your way of thinking? Yeah, I think it needs more intelligent, especially Detective Pikachu. I might have gone into this with a sort of reactionary older person view of, oh, it never did me any harm. And everyone can see that it's fine for primary school-age children.

and the majority probably have perfectly acceptable views, but I know that's not true. I think, like, A Poo, this is something that was, well, that's a bad example, a poo was never inoffensive, but it's something that has become perceived as worse over time. Yeah, and I suppose it was always about... We always had dog fighting when I was a kid.

No, you're not allowed. Political correctness gone mad. Oh, wow, someone's linked to the Peter website. Petter, Peter, you know, the horrible, misogynistic people who give vegans a bad name, them. So this is a thing that people agree with. I suppose they are monsters, though. They are pocket monsters.

So it would be like setting a werewolf on another werewolf. Yeah. But that also seems unethical. Yeah, just because they're monsters. More than 50% of the time. Let's hear it from the thread. Oh, I can't find what this is in response to, but... See, I think Tom and Jerry is different.

It was a fight that both cat and mouse pursued. They weren't made to fight by someone who owned them. Exactly. I completely am probably overthinking this, but I watched it and I felt very uncomfortable. Yeah, Tom and Jerry is different. Roadrunner and Wiley Coyote. They were just in the wild.

Yeah. So I'm sure if it was about, you know, a Pikachu and a Ratheta fighting in a field, that would be fine. But then there'd be no reason for the kids to get involved in trade cards. No, there's no human element at all. You're just watching a Pikachu shocker, Oh, let's leave it with this one, which is quite the opinion.

Yep, they're total cunts. They should be banned. Replace everything with pepper pig. Replace everything with pepper pig? Everything. This table, pepper pig. Your jumper, pepper pig. The podcast, pepper pig.

I've been watching Fargo. I don't want to watch pepper pig. Well, you're not going to watch anything because the TV's going, and we're going to replace it with a plushy pepper pig. Can I force the pepper pigs to fight? No. Pepper pig, I choose you. We'll be replacing your ability to think with pepper pig.

Pepper Pig's not a detective. Detective's pepper pig. Am I being unreasonable? Corner Shop man just massively overcharged me. Just popped to my local shop for a bottle of wine, seven pounds, and some chocolates, two pounds. Paid by card and stupidly didn't check the amount on the screen. I then asked for a receipt and he didn't seem to want to give me one,

but eventually folds it in half and put it in the bag. I left the queue and checked the receipt and I had been charged £8 for the wine and £23 for the chocolate. I presumed a mistake had been made and went back up to be told, sorry, can't give refunds. I tried to explain that I use the shop all the time as I'm just a few doors down

and he pretended not to know what I was talking about. this was a new member of staff the chap I normally get is on holiday apparently what the hell who can I contact about this I feel like going back round there but I don't know what to say should I call the police you should have asked to see the manager

I guess there's no manager in a corner shop no yeah 23 pound for a bit of chocolate is a bit much unless it was you know very good like a big hotel chocolat box no I was thinking more something that you used to be able to get but you can't anymore like that chocolate that chocolate with the popping candy in it you pay 23 pounds for that it was good and you can't get it

anymore you'd pay 23 pounds for that no it's just an example okay yeah 23 pounds is too much and that obviously was a mistake so they should just refund but was it a mistake the guy didn't want to give her the receipt he folded it in half now a few weeks ago when we had the voucher I was like being ugly ridiculous, but this time I think this man might have been on the rob. Oh no. He wouldn't let us see the receipt. He clearly wanted to just get out of the shop. Yeah, if she was painting cash, I suppose, but they're paying by card, so how's the man going to rob them? Because it's going to go to the owner of the shop who's on holiday. Oh yeah, that's true. Maybe he's covering the holiday on commission. You can take all the profits from this week

No questions asked. Yeah. That didn't seem like a great way to do business. Well, maybe he's on a trial period, and he wants to show you how business booms when he's around, so he's... Boom, boom. Exactly.

Maybe. Okay, so no, it probably was just a mistake. I think his hand just slipped. But then why didn't he want to see the receipt? I still think he's shading. I don't trust him. I trust him with my life. Maybe you know how receipts sometimes have the server's name on them because they're logged into the system?

Yes. Maybe he has an embarrassing name? Maybe his name, maybe his Christian name is Robin Fick and you don't want people to know that. Maybe his name is 23 pounds and it's all a big misunderstanding. The wine was actually 6 pounds. The chocolate was 2 pounds. Oh, this is just something... You've been served by 23 pounds?

Yeah. Um... Let's see what people on this friend is. See what people on the thread have said. Contact trading standards. Contact the Citizens Advice Bureau. Contact your bank. Contact the police.

Just contact them again. Just go back in and kick up a fuss. I wouldn't have left. Someone said it's your word against he's unfortunately, so let it go. But it's not because she's got a receipt. So I think this person might be the shopkeeper. 23 pounds. Someone has said maybe the guy was new and just didn't know

how to process the refund. He wasn't up to anything shady. He was just embarrassed. Yeah, I think that's likely. Yeah. Robin Thick was just embarrassed. He just couldn't work the till. And his name.

His awful name. Poor Robin Thick. Let's see. What else people have to say? Sounds a bit dodgy. He would know that you'd just bought a few bits, but something for 22 pounds. I'm not sure you could even buy something

in a corner shop for that much. I don't think that's true. Seems very lacking in a magic. Yeah, gin, spirits. Yeah. Don't let it go. If they made an honest mistake, they would have rectified it. They could be doing this to many customers. Could be. Could be.

You know who can get to the bottom of this case? Detective Pikachu. Wow. Report it to the police. They stole your money. It may be something this particular guy is doing. The management would want to know. I don't know. These people on Mox that are so self-important.

Like, the management are not going to want. you storming in there saying, I think you'll want to know about this. Yeah, even sending in Detective Pikachu is a bit much. Like this yellow electric mouse comes in, demanding to know what's going on. Oh. The other day, my teenage son bought chewing gum from a local garage for 97pence. Used his card, didn't check, and they took £20.97. The assistant clearly knew what he was doing.

I never realised this was a thing. It sounds like he's not the only one at it. Some called his bank and they said he had used a chip and pin not contactless so they could not refund him and he would need to raise it with the shop himself, which he doesn't feel able to do. I would always check amounts from now on. Why does so many people not check the amount? Yeah, they show it to you for a reason. Yeah, if you use contactless, they make a point of making you look at it.

I think they have to. And even if you use chip and pin, just check the amount for you putting your pin in. On contactless if you don't look, the most it can possibly take off you is, what, 30 quid? How does that work for visually impaired people? I don't know. They probably have to tell them what it says. And you're just trusting them again. Yeah.

But that's different. If the man had said, oh yeah, that's £8, and it has actually been £23, that's completely different to her just not looking, I don't know. We need to pull the CCTV, con off the area, do a full forensic sweep, and bring in Detective Pepper Pig. Someone said, I bet that £20 is already in his pocket. Well, he got it from a card, so he's really moved quickly. Bet you a bottom dollar, 20 pounds is in his pocket. 23 pounds in 23 pounds his pocket. Someone says, I bet the shop does have a bottle of red wine that costs that amount.

It's probably a mistake. Just go back from the manager's there. Yeah. The receipt doesn't show anything that will back up the shop's claim, and there is CCTV. So, was this woman being unreasonable? No, I suppose not. Was the shop being unreasonable? Yeah.

Were the people on the shred being unreasonable? Yeah. Okay, one last speed round. Am I being unreasonable? Travelodge, I'm fucking fuming. No. Am I being unreasonable to ask if there is indeed a different species walking among us posing as humans? Like ditto.

Yes. No. Am I being unreasonable four times a day? A day is capitalised. Ooh. No. Am I being unreasonable to say D.H. Farts spoiled our day out.

Ooh. No. Am I being unreasonable to think Poundland should change their name? Yeah. Am I being unreasonable to want to know what happened? No, I want to know what happened. Well, you can't, because it's the speed round and we're going to end it there. We never will.

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