You Are Being Unreasonable - 015 - In which babies catch tans

Episode Date: April 26, 2018

"Love juice." It's a baby-filled episode this week as we discuss Royal babies, recruiting babies as firefighters, trusting infants to deal with in-flight emergencies, and taking children to job inter...views, and whether babies should have tans. We also demand haircuts as our birthright and petition for the nationalisation of shampoo. You can vote for us in the Listeners' Choice Award category at the British Podcast Awards at https://www.britishpodcastawards.com/vote Go do that.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, driving on drugs feels better when they're prescription. All I know, the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, right now. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day when I felt the way that I do right now. Hello!
Starting point is 00:00:28 Another episode of You Are Being Unreasonable where Simon and Hells look through Mum's Net and find people who are being unreasonable on the Am I Being Unreasonable Board? Yeah, it is a very good place to find unreasonable people. Did you hear the good news?
Starting point is 00:00:44 No, what's the good news? There was a royal baby. Yeah, one of the royals had a baby. I mean, that's news. It's good news for them. It's not really news that's relevant to my life, but okay. It's sort of nice that they had it on St George's Day because it means all the unbearable patriotism
Starting point is 00:01:01 happens on the same day. It's all contained. That's true. So we can get all the English nationalism and all the British nostalgia out of the way in one day. And all the people who really love Shakespeare who was born and died on this day. Shall we begin with a speed round?
Starting point is 00:01:20 Am I being unreasonable to be so worried about DH going back to work? No. Don't worry about him. It's a grown man. Am I being unreasonable to pay a bus lane fine even though I was a passenger? Pay a bus lane? Yeah. Am I being unreasonable to want to find music I can enjoy with my four-year-old? Yeah. Am I being unreasonable? It's a boy.
Starting point is 00:01:47 This is what I was just talking about. Not necessarily, we're not going to read the thread. It is a boy, yes. Am I being unreasonable? to want to eat something without having to share it with my children. No, not at all. That's the right of everyone. Shall we do a full length thread?
Starting point is 00:02:04 Please. Am I being unreasonable to get ragey at people booking seats for a flight? And leaving the window seat, angry face, angry face. Seriously, if you're a couple, book the inside two seats, it's so frustrating. Also, what determines if an infant can sit on a particular seat? I've just selected my seats for the flight and me and my hubby have to sit one behind the other in window seats
Starting point is 00:02:31 because my daughter apparently can't sit in that row eye-rolly face I like this one because it's a bit like the spate of people who don't have any understanding of how the trains work but with the even simpler situation of booking a seat on a flight where you have to have a seat booked
Starting point is 00:02:48 and you know there's a booking period so just book your seats at the beginning if you're that fussy I've stated too many of my own opinions too early Sorry, let's throw it out to the floor Maybe the couple doesn't want to sit by the window Because they're scared of flying and they don't want to look down It's very high on a plane
Starting point is 00:03:07 It is very high They don't want to look out that window Yeah, the whole raison d'etre is to get quite high Do you remember when Ryanair Ryanair started doing seat reservations relatively recently And before that it was just sort of anarchy and you just sat wherever you wanted.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Yeah, unless you paid a little bit extra so that you could book a seat in advance, which is what I always used to do because I'm quite an anxious flyer. Yeah, but the reason they cited for that was to balance the plane? Yeah, which did not help with being an anxious flyer. Hey, Ryanair, don't tell people
Starting point is 00:03:44 you need to balance the plane. Actually, at one point, after they brought in standard seat reservations, I'd still pay for a priority seat because I wanted to be close to the exit doors not because I was scared that the plane would crash and I wanted to be first out but because I had a very short turnaround
Starting point is 00:04:00 at the exit end and they tried to move me out of my cushy window seat at the back by the doors to some shitty aisle in the middle of the plane and I was like no I've paid for this seat and they're like yeah but you know the plane's not balanced so you need to move
Starting point is 00:04:16 and I was like no the thing is what you're saying is inherently terrifying but it doesn't change the fact that a lot of these people here haven't paid for this seat so make them move to the centre of the plane and also why is your plane so fragile that moving one nine stone woman is going to make all the difference
Starting point is 00:04:35 to whether or won't we stay in the air? This leads me to my theory that right in a, you know, there were this budget airline so they just cut costs everywhere, you know, sit where you want, you're not allowed to take hand luggage, you're only allowed hand luggage, you're not allowed to check things in, blah, blah, blah. But over the years, They've gotten closer and closer to, you know, a regular airline.
Starting point is 00:04:56 They've brought all those restrictions back because I think they realized that they were there for a reason. Oh, people need to have seat reservations to balance the plane. Oh, if people only bring hand luggage, it's an absolute nightmare. We will let them take care of baggage. The overhead lockers aren't actually designed with the view that everybody has a suitcase to put in there. What's this about? Oh, no one's buying these scratch cards. Maybe that's why other flights don't give them out.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Hey, those are for charity, those for the kids. Speaking of the kids, why is this woman so mad about where her infant child can sit? If the child is literally an infant, they're going to be sitting on the parents' lap for as much of the flight as they're able to, if not the whole thing, with some of those seatbelt adapters. The infant can't sit near one of the emergency doors because there's certain responsibilities that go through that. And I don't want to trust an infant opening the emergency door.
Starting point is 00:05:50 It seems like a really harsh way to bring up. your child as well. I thought, you know, when I was a girl, I had to help passengers off a plane in an emergency. It never did me any harm and I was only eight months old. Like, no. In the event of a water landing,
Starting point is 00:06:05 I don't want a child opening that door. No, no. I want to open that door, and I want to go down that slide. I don't sit in emergency exit aisles because I think that in an emergency, I would panic and freeze up, and I don't want to be the one responsible for people needlessly dying in a plane crash
Starting point is 00:06:21 because no one could open the window. because they were having too much of a panic attack. And I'm a grown woman. Yeah, it's a lot of pressure. Yeah. Especially in an emergency. Come on, open the door. Open the door.
Starting point is 00:06:33 We need to get down the slide. I get nervous if I get on a train and it's one of those ones you have to lean out the window to open the door. I hope someone else is getting off at my stop and I can linger behind them. I generally hope someone else is going to be in charge of the button on mainline trains or overground trains. Yeah. I want to be in charge of the button.
Starting point is 00:06:52 There's too much responsibility. I don't mind that. But anything more than that, don't like it. So yeah, this woman's mad because she thinks that everyone should have to sit by the window so that she can sit in the aisle and that it's selfish to leave a window seat. But there are lots of people who fly alone who might like a window seat. When I fly alone, I like a window seat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:13 And she's posted a screenshot of the plane. And I can see that there are seats together. but the seats together are in emergency exit rows. But if you are that concerned about sitting with your hubby and your infant, your life-saving infant, book your seats first in advance. You're deliberately booked the emergency seat so your kid can learn how to deal with emergencies.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Babies cannot be trusted in emergencies. That's why there's no baby firefighters. Also child labour laws. Mostly because babies can't be trusted in an emergency. Okay. As a single traveller, I would want the window seat. I always want the window seat. There we go.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Someone else, I love the window seat. Coat on, hood, up, scarf against the window and go to sleep. That's where I like the window seat. Lots of people have said it's emergency exit rows. You can't have an infant in an emergency exit row. And the O.P. said, I'm not talking about emergency exits. I'm talking about the plain green seats. So that's good.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Someone has said men with prostate problems often have to get up frequently to go to the toilet. A middle-aged couple are going to choose the two seats not on the window. so the man only inconveniences his partner. There are other reasons to want to sit in the aisle. Yeah, if you get a UTI. But it's not all about needing a wheel all the time. Someone else has looked at the screenshot that she's posted and said, it's a jet two flight, how long could it be?
Starting point is 00:08:37 What age is the infant and are you paying for a separate seat for them? This thread is 15 pages long, which is always the mark that someone has been very unreasonable because people just won't stop coming to stick the boot in. Jeez, the longest thread, 15 pages of heated argument closed by moderators. Am I being unreasonable to make a complaint about a barber? Went into the barber this afternoon on the way home from work, around 4.30. I have a short Mohican and just wanted the sides shaved.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Normally I go to a unisex salon in town, but only wanted a tidy and I couldn't be bothered. I went into the barber and he had no one waiting, just a guy in the chair. I sat down to wait and he asked me what? I wanted. I said, oh, just a trim. He said, no. No has an exclamation mark. I laughed and said, you're joking. And he was like, no, I'm not. I said, that's sexist. He just stared at me. I laughed and said that I would make sure I told everybody. So here I am, telling everybody. Now, my question is, am I being unreasonable if I make a complaint because he has infringed my rights to receive service based on my gender. That's discrimination, right? What are your
Starting point is 00:09:53 thoughts, Sy? The Baba doesn't say much. He just says no. He exclaims no. No. No. Yeah, like that. No. No. The barber doesn't say it's because the OPEs a woman. It's at 4.30, but we don't know when the barber shuts. Maybe it's closing time, yeah. There's a barber that I sometimes walk past on my way to work that opens at 7am and closes at... 4 or 4.30 for that early morning haircut market. The barber needs to express more clarity. Yes. No, it's because you're a woman.
Starting point is 00:10:24 But a mum's net trope is no is a complete sentence. Oh. Perhaps the barber is an avid mum's netter and has learnt that no is a complete sentence and feels no need to explain. The barber's really testing the water with their assertiveness and now this woman's trying to make a complaint. I've got various thoughts. about this. So I have an undercut which is shaving half a head. That's all it is. It's doing
Starting point is 00:10:52 half a buzz cut and leaving the rest of my hair completely alone. That's a tricky part though. Well, perhaps. It's the notes you don't play. Quite. That seems to be the view that every barber seems to take where I'm like, oh, can I just get my hand cut on? And they say, oh, that'll be 25 quid. I'm like, no, because you would shave someone's entire head for the whole, the price. So why are you trying to charge me so much to shave half my head? This is unacceptable. I don't think it's gender discrimination. I think it's laziness. Yeah, it's knowing where to stop, I guess. I mean, it is already there. There's a very clear line. That's true. But that's not the point. The point is, it's not my birthright that I can walk into any establishment and get a haircut.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And if they want to charge a price I'm not comfortable with, I don't kick off and say that it's gendered pricing. I just think, oh, this is a load of bollets. and I'd go somewhere else. We don't know that this is to do with this woman being a woman. It might be the barber's used to doing a specific set of things, and none of them are a Mohican, because it's 2018. Yeah, maybe they can only do shortback insides. That's all they learned at Barber College.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Maybe the Barber knows he's not a great barber, and he just thought it was easier not to get into it. Yeah. So that might be a factor. she says she was going to tell everybody and then she says so here I am telling everybody we don't know what town it is we don't know who the barber is so it's not like she's naming and shaming
Starting point is 00:12:21 she's just sharing her petty gripes it is telling everybody though I mean our hundreds of thousands of listeners will hear it now but we don't know who the barber is we just know that somewhere out there there's a barber who believes that no it's a complete sentence somewhere out there is a barber who won't cut hair
Starting point is 00:12:39 and then who is she going to make this complaint to And why does she... This is another really mum's-nettie thing. Can you tell that I've run out of patience with mum's-net? Really mum's-nettie thing where people... Yeah, for being a fucking hotbed of... ...trophobic... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:55 But the other thing that is really mum's-nettie about this is like using really bad legal language where people think it makes them sound important but it just makes them sound ridiculous. Yeah, we don't have... I don't think you have the right to receive a service based on your gender. So gender is a protected. characteristic. Yeah, but that's not a right that's enshrined in. And I think that's where
Starting point is 00:13:17 she's got this idea from, that it's some sort of equality thing. But she was never told that that was why. No. And who is she going to make this complaint to? Is she going to go to, like, the government? The European Court of Human Rights? I mean, really, that would probably be her best shot if her case is that it's... I'll see you in the Hague, Master Barber. So, yeah, I don't know, I think this woman is being unreasonable. It's a shame that the Barber wouldn't cut her hair, but, you know... Maybe he was very sleepy. We'll get very sleepy. It's true, yeah, maybe he just wanted to snooze.
Starting point is 00:13:50 No, I'm very... That's why he's so angry, because he's sleepy. And she's infringing on his right to have a snooze. Yeah, he's infringing on his right to have a snooze because of his gender. I think she's being unreasonable. What do you think? I think she is being unreasonable, but maybe also the barber should speak in complete sentences. Let's see what the thread says. I'm not really sure who you were complete. to about this? Who would you complain to? Yep. Barber H.Q. Someone else. A barber cuts men's hair, you are not a man, so in my opinion
Starting point is 00:14:20 you are being unreasonable. He has been trained and specialises in men's haircuts. He wouldn't cut a woman's hair in case he messes it up. Could mess up a man's hair. Yeah. You see, I think this is a bit weird because man's hair, woman's hair, it doesn't mean anything. It's all the same hair. There are styles which people associate more with gender presentation of a particular type, but it's not man's hair and woman's hair, it's not structurally different. You don't need different shampoos. No more shampoo segregation. I don't buy any shampoo that says it's aimed at women. Do you buy shampoo that says it's aimed at men? No, I'm just speaking generally. Okay. There should be one shampoo. No, that should. It should be provided by the state.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Nationalized shampoo. I don't want nationalized shampoo. I like the free market for shampoo. I want to queue for hours to receive my government's stipend of shampoo. Okay. Well, let's see, more people saying... There's a little haiku here. That's not a haiku. You are a woman. He is a barber. Barber's cut men's hair. You are not a man.
Starting point is 00:15:20 You are unreasonable. See, this is what's annoyed me here. The fact that people are making out that men's hair and women's hair are different things. There's all sorts of... We had a thread on this the other day. Barber's cut men's hair. It doesn't infringe on any rights. Stop being ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Am I being unreasonable to think you don't take your child? To a job interview. Oof, if this was a speed round, tell you what. I was leading some interviews this afternoon. One candidate arrived with her 13-year-old son. She said she brought him so that he could get an idea of what an interview was like. I said he couldn't be part of the interview, needed to wait in reception, or she could arrange childcare and we would interview her at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:16:04 She said that no one had said she couldn't bring him, and it's good life experience, etc. I said no and she agreed eventually for him to wait in reception. When I called her to say that she hadn't got the job, she said we were discriminating against her because she had a child. I don't think I was unreasonable, but no one ever does. What would you have done? Can I just say how much I like this OP for acknowledging that no one ever thinks that they are the one being unreasonable, even though in this situation clearly she wasn't
Starting point is 00:16:34 being unreasonable. No, this is some nonsense right here. This is crazy. It's a 13-year-old, but I'm imagining a really big 13-year-olds who's, like, really insulin and wearing a track suit and doesn't want to be there. All right. Just texting the whole way. Snapchat.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Snapchat. This is my son. He lost his father last week. Can I have the job now? I need to care for him. Mom. I care for him very deeply, as I would care for this role. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:07 there's no way that anyone could possibly think that it's normal to take a 13-year-old to an interview, right? A good strategy when you take your kid to an interview is to bat any questions that you don't want to answer to them. To the kid? Yeah. So how do you work in a team? Well, I think it's best that Elliot answers this. I don't know. If you were the sort of overbearing parent who insisted that your 13-year-old come to an interview to see what it's like,
Starting point is 00:17:33 would you then want someone to ask your 13-year-old what your biggest weakness was? She won't let me have chips She's the worst She took away my game ball She took me to a job interview Yeah You don't get any control over that You don't want your kid answering the difficult questions
Starting point is 00:17:54 13 is too old for it to have been a childcare issue A 13 year old could be left to sit in a cafe And do something for the duration of an interview Even if they couldn't be at school Or at a club or at home or with their friends or whatever they don't need to be by your side at all times. So it does sound like she genuinely believed that this was a good life experience. She mentions that no one had said that she couldn't bring him.
Starting point is 00:18:20 And that applies to a lot of things. I mean, I've never been given the information for an interview and been told explicitly not to arrive drunk or with the cats. I've never been told not to invite a crowd of my friends who can sort of apply me answers. Never been told not to bring a script. Never been told not to punch the interviewer. Yep. So I guess I just haven't been using
Starting point is 00:18:44 my imagination in interviews because I haven't done any of these things. Never been told not to bring a barber who can cut my hair while I'm having the interview. Efficient. Nice. That's the kind of efficiency I'll be bringing to your company. You will not, sir. You will not.
Starting point is 00:19:00 The barber's started now and I can't finish halfway. Please leave. Please leave. I suppose it is a good life experience in that it will affirm to this teenager that their mum truly is bat-shut cray If the lesson is, don't take your child through a job interview That kid is going to learn that lesson
Starting point is 00:19:19 Straight away Everyone else has ever needed to learn that lesson The lesson's just been implicit I like that the poster says What would you have done? She's clearly questioning whether or what it would have been more appropriate To let the kids stay and give the woman the job What's worse, though, being the only person, being the only candidate being interviewed who brings your son to the job interview, or being the only candidate being job interviewed who doesn't bring their son to the job interview, it's always best to have more than less.
Starting point is 00:19:52 No. So it's best to take the kid just in case you need him. No, there's that quote about perfection is when there's nothing left to be taken away. Really pare it back. Yeah, and the boy does need to be taken away here. If you took the boy away, that interview might have been perfection. As it stands, it was a shit show. Yes, these are very fine distinctions. Oh, if you just brought your dot, we were lucky for someone who could bring their daughter to work.
Starting point is 00:20:26 That was the test. Let's hear from the thread. If the 13-year-old had to come, why not leave them in reception or a coffee shop close by? bet the DC was mortified. No, he was just catching Pokemon's. He was happy. I got a bit internally sniffy with someone who brought two huge Tesco bags
Starting point is 00:20:44 of grocery shopping into an interview. She could have left them at reception and looked a lot more professional, but a 13-year-old takes the biscuit. Like this is the only time where comparing Tesco bags to a 13-year-old does seem perfectly legit. When I interviewed at Cambridge
Starting point is 00:20:59 and did not get in, I went shopping in Cambridge during the afternoon before my interview and I bought the limited extended edition of the Lord of the Rings Return of the King which came in a huge box with like a commemorative little thing and I took that into the interview with me
Starting point is 00:21:17 you know until now I thought the worst story I'd heard of someone not getting into Cambridge was a friend of mine who panicked in her interview for English lit and said I like the bit in midsummer night's dream where puck squirts the love juice in everyone's eyes and she knew at that point that she was not going to Cambridge and she also knew that she couldn't just get up and
Starting point is 00:21:37 leave the room. But I think you taking this massive Lord of the Rings is comparably weird. I'm proud of all my friends right now. For the record, I didn't even try to get into Cambridge. I'm not being snotty about this. I just think people have done some hilarious things. I think the second you say the words love juice in an interview are when you've lost it. Totally depends what the job is. Come on now. That's true. How blinker are you? It depends if your son's there. What if your son says love juice? What if they say, okay, the son can stay? And then at the end, they say, have you got any questions?
Starting point is 00:22:09 And you're about to ask something insightful, and your son just pipes up and says, what do you think about love juice? Or you've done really well in the interview. They're like, wow, we're really impressed. We'll be in touch. And then you leave. Your son follows, but just before leaving the door, just says love juice. Just whispers it, so they're not even sure.
Starting point is 00:22:32 it happens and kind of like, did that love juice? Did he just say love juice? I feel like I might have betrayed a trust by mentioning that story. It's fine. I didn't name anyone. But let's move on from that. Crazy behaviour if she wanted the job, but if she's out of work and was forced to apply and attend interview for a job she didn't want, she's played a blinder. Yeah? I suppose she has. Yeah? Good work. Good work not getting that job. Yeah? um surely a 13 year old ought to be in school today the real kick in the teeth is if the 13 year old gets the job instead of her look kid you seem suitably embarrassed which leads us to believe that you have a far greater understanding of social norms than your mother
Starting point is 00:23:19 I like your kids be a good fit your kids quiet stoicism we'll do well here you're in my best friend was interviewing applicants for a teacher's role this guy turned up in a t-shirt and jeans and trainers 15 minutes late carrying a Costa coffee and a pastry he said hi guys sorry I'm a bit late I didn't have time for my breakfast so I stopped at Costa see these are great stories about people doing weird stuff but it doesn't help that the OP genuinely isn't sure what to do for the best she said what would you do and now people are just like oh someone with DeCosta someone brought all their stuff uh let's end with this comment on this woman sounds like she did you a
Starting point is 00:23:57 favor by demonstrating how batshit crazy she was straight away you could have ended up giving her the job and spent the next two years trying to get rid of her and then fighting the subsequent unfair or constructive dismissal claim she would have been if to be brought against you. It's true, she does sound highly litigious. You would have spent the next two years trying to get rid of her and her son. Am I being unreasonable to think the bride's been a bit cheeky here? Oh, cheeky. All right, so there's a girl I met at uni who's now getting married. We're not close at all, but she's been very kind and invited me to her wedding, evening only. As the wedding is hours away, there's only one hotel close by with ridiculous rates,
Starting point is 00:24:35 and I'd only been invited from 8.30pm anyway, I was planning on not going. I went to go and click on the Sorry Can't Make It option on her RSVP website when I saw the ride share list on there. I've been put down to drive what appears to be one of her elderly relatives from my hometown.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Never offered this, have never met the elderly relative in question, haven't really spoken to the bride about the wedding at all. Messaged another friend who's been invited to evening who's been invited to evening early and is down on the list to ride
Starting point is 00:25:07 her with someone elderly, same thing with her. I've never declined an invitation so fast. Not sure if I've been invited as a friend or because I've got a car and happen to be from the same place as her relative. It's the latter. It's almost certainly the latter. Because you've got a car pal.
Starting point is 00:25:23 This is absolutely incredible Mumsnet at its finest for batchet stories. I didn't know you could do that just put people down to give you a lift. Or to give other people a lift? I'm going to make a website and just put people down as ride chairs to IKEA so I can go get some meatballs.
Starting point is 00:25:42 You'll have to send them a formal invitation to Ikea and then a link to the RSVP page. Yeah, you'll notice that you're a driver in a ride chair. I can't really say now. You'll be driving me to IKEA for meatballs. It's not that difficult to get to IKEA on public transport. I'm not taking the tram like a chump I'm going to get a ride chair
Starting point is 00:26:04 By the time you've built a website and sent invitations It's definitely more chumpy to do that Than just get on the tram There's just so much So much to this that is beautifully weird How does she know it's an ugly relative And why doesn't it explain Maybe the age is in brackets
Starting point is 00:26:25 Edith, Eity three What like when you go to the cat rescue center and it's got their name and their age and then like a little bit of back story written in a cutesy first person way Edith 83 Edith's really looking forward to the wedding
Starting point is 00:26:42 she doesn't get out much nowadays and she loves belly rubs oh if it said Eith's looking forward to the wedding she doesn't get out much these days that would be even better because it'd be so pass-agged like if you don't come and you don't drive Edith you are contributing to the problem
Starting point is 00:27:00 social isolation among the elderly population. Yeah. How do you like that? Edith's never been in a Hyundai. She was really looking forward to it. And the fact that this pride has done it... Well, I do object to them saying bride. Like, it takes two people to get married.
Starting point is 00:27:18 So, you know. But then again... Not necessarily. There's that woman who married the Eiffel Tower. That's true. And the Eiffel Tower would never have made anyone brideshare. No. There's a good transfer.
Starting point is 00:27:30 put links to the Aftel Tower. Yes. I was going to get all off my high horse about how it irritates me so much when whenever anything wedding-related happens on a mum's net thread, people forget that there's a second person involved. Sounds like Bridezilla over here.
Starting point is 00:27:44 But if it's the bride that the OP knows and it's the bride's elderly relative, then I suppose in this instance probably is the bride's doing. You get furious at that cinema advert. You know the one where the mum's lending money to the kid
Starting point is 00:27:59 who's having a wedding? Oh my God, is she lending that? Is she a money lender? I thought it was a gift. Giving money. The mum's giving money to the daughter, and you never see the husband. Yeah, that's infuriating. You're all the way through, like, when's the husband?
Starting point is 00:28:14 Who is a husband? Yeah, because they do all the wedding planning. Like, okay, fair enough, they go shopping for the dress and the husband's not there. Fine. But then they're, like, going to a cake tasting, and they're looking at venues. What's the husband doing? Like, does he know that they're engaged? They do use male pronouns at the start, so we do know it's a husband.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Yeah. But, yeah, you never see the dude. Is he imaginary? Oh, my God. Is it all in her head? She's the only end up like Mrs. Haversham? Miss Haversham? Miss Haversham, famously.
Starting point is 00:28:46 It's the whole point of the story. I don't think women's titles should matter, but in this particular instance. It's very important. Relevant. Sorry, Dickens. Ah, dead now, of course. So, yeah, fair enough, if it's the bride that she knows and it's the bride's elderly relative, then you can blame the bride in this instance.
Starting point is 00:29:09 We have relatives coming to our wedding from Scotland, and I'm just going to put my brother down to get them. You got a ride chair, bro. You're the best man, and you are down for the ride chair, so... So you better... Better get to Scotland, quite far north. Yeah, it's just... just ridiculous and how would the elderly aunt feel about this i've assumed it's an elderly aunt because
Starting point is 00:29:36 surely if it's a long journey you don't get in a car with a stranger yeah stranger danger yeah this is stranger danger she'll be like oh how do you know my great knees and she'll be like i don't really know her at all and is this a relative who's only going to the evening or does this person have to drive there for the full day to get the relatives there for the full shebang so many questions. And then wait in the car park until 8.30. Hopefully it's all answered on the RSVP website. Hopefully.
Starting point is 00:30:05 And then will she have to drive the relative back in the morning? And the relative's blind hung over? Yeah. Yeah. And maybe they were going to make a weekend of it because it's far away. Maybe they were going to stop at a quaint village somewhere on the way back and do some hiking. Have a nice lunch. They're on the rideshare list.
Starting point is 00:30:24 But now Edna's there. It's got a rager of a hangover. no, she's asking to have her belly rubbed. Try that you put the radio on because it hurts too much because she had so much sherry last night. Yeah, only went to radio two on. And Steve writes on it in the afternoon, and he's awful. So, yeah, I mean, obviously the original poster doesn't seem unreasonable.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I don't think it's unreasonable that she doesn't want to go to this wedding and she doesn't want to take this elderly relative. No, don't go to the wedding. I do wonder why the elderly relatives haven't had more self-respect. Maybe it was a sad idea. I love that plot twist It's great Aunt Edna She was like
Starting point is 00:31:03 Listen love it's fine Just get someone that you know To give me a lift They won't mind I'm not getting the train Not all that way It's too far away Either get one of your friends
Starting point is 00:31:14 To give me a lift Or I'm not coming And I'm cutting out of my will Oh spinster aunt Edna No Edna No They're being unreasonable
Starting point is 00:31:24 I just don't think anyone In that situation I don't think the elderly relative has suggested this scenario at all. I don't think anyone that situation is going to want to share all of that time in a car with someone they don't know going to a wedding that they probably resent, especially if this
Starting point is 00:31:37 is an actual relative who's only been invited from 8.30pm and is elderly probably wants to be in bed by 9, ready to get up at 4am like elderly people like to do so that they can potter about. I bet how he's put Prince Andrew down for a ride chair for his grandma.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Evening only. Yeah. She wins cheeky fucker Olympic. for sure. Who does this? A friend tried to do this for her wedding, but it painfully backfired when she forgot to tell elderly friends and relatives that the ride was no longer available. She ended up being over 30 people short in the evening. Oh no! She was very angry and actually had the gall to call up the people that she nominated unknowingly for lift shares for their rudeness. Listening to her at the reception was quite painful. Well, you know, with less than a month to our wedding,
Starting point is 00:32:27 you get quite nervous about it, but I feel better now because we're not going to fuck up that badly. Definitely not. Definitely not. This has happened to me before. Oh my God, this is like a phenomenon. The wedding, the reception, or an hour's drive away from each other. Well, that sounds like poor planning. Oofa dofer. Everything about this wedding sounds like an absolute shambles, and the Opie and great Aunt Edna are best off out of it. It sounds awful, but I'm happy about our wedding, because it won't be this kind of shambles. Quite. And with that smug moment shall we do
Starting point is 00:33:01 one more speed round? Yep. Am I being unreasonable to think Katie Price should have finished more of the marathon? Yeah, did you run it? Am I being unreasonable to be disgusted about Prince Charles' racist comments? No. Come on, they're being unreasonable to go on the internet and be like
Starting point is 00:33:17 I'm disgusted by racism. Like, that is the weakest form of virtue signalling. I don't know about you, but I think racism is bad. Yeah, I guess. But The royal family are still racists. Yeah, no, definitely. Fair enough. Am I being unreasonable to even contemplate this?
Starting point is 00:33:34 Yeah, don't contemplate that. Stay in your lane. Wow. Am I being unreasonable? Body gone to seed. So depressed. Am I being unreasonable? No.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Happens to everyone. Am I being unreasonable to hate 1930s semis. Ower. Ower. Indeed. And last one. Am I being unreasonable? What are your pets?
Starting point is 00:33:58 Favorite luxuries? Neil likes to come to job interviews with me. A little day out for him. A little luxury. Yeah. Oh no, last one, sorry. Am I being unreasonable? Sister-in-law wants her baby to catch a tan.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Ooh, yes. Unreasonable. No, that's going to hurt the baby. That's not hurt babies. Not even royal babies. Yeah. We're going to end it there. Thanks for listening.
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