You Are Being Unreasonable - 017 - In which Les Misérables is sponsored by Specsavers

Episode Date: May 10, 2018

"If you don't want to see that thong, don't play the song." Thanks to everyone who sent us Mumsnet AIBU threads this week for us to discuss. We really appreciate you wading into the forums on our beh...alf. Glasses upon glasses in this episode as we invoice babies for broken wine glasses and improve Les Misérables with a spectacles-focused reimagining. We also take children up Mount Everest for a picnic and Sisqó requests to see that thong during the general swim session.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, driving on drugs feels better when they're prescription. All I know, the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, right now. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day. Hello.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Back in another episode You're Being Unreasonable Where we look at Monsnet The Year Are Being Unreasonable boards And decide if people are being unreasonable Yes This week, some of our listeners Have been kind enough to send in their own threads
Starting point is 00:00:40 For us to discuss Yeah Not their own threads that they started Unless they've really, really committed To helping out with this That's too much I can't ask that They went wading through the boards
Starting point is 00:00:51 And they've found some real gems Yeah, thanks to Anna and Jack for digging up some threads so we don't have to. Yeah, thank you. If anyone else would like to do the same for the future, it's very much appreciated. Mumsnet's been in the news this week. There's a lot of prominent feminist women
Starting point is 00:01:07 talking about MumsNet as a hotbed of transphobia, like Sean Faye and Laurie Penny and Marie LaCont, people like that. Yeah, and I would imagine that if we looked at different outlets, we would find lots of people saying that it's a hotbed of freedom of discussion for women. Oh. Yeah, that's one of the reasons that I'm grateful
Starting point is 00:01:25 that someone else went wading through the boards this week. This week in particular, I feel like I would have lost my rag with it. So thank you, truly. Too much awful chancephobia this week. However, there are still plenty of people out there with hilarious and petty problems, and let's demonstrate that with the speed round. Let's go. Am I being unreasonable to be pissed off with neighbour mowing grass?
Starting point is 00:01:45 Yeah. Am I being unreasonable loving your partner more than your kids? No, no. Am I being unreasonable? Is this school? run ridiculous. Yes, all school runs are ridiculous. Am I being unreasonable to think the hot weather turns some people into idiots? No, absolutely not. It does. It does. Suns out, tops off. Exactly. I do wish men would put their tops back on. I really do. Men, put your top, no one wants to see that.
Starting point is 00:02:16 This isn't a feminist point. This isn't like, oh, free the nipple. This is, I don't want to see anybody's nipples. We're back to Paul Hollywood's sex cut. Yeah. Except all the men have Paul Hollywood's sex gut. Revolting. Revolting times. And one last one for this speed round. Am I being unreasonable to think this is fucking terrifying? Yes. Get a grip.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Am I being unreasonable to think Ben Shackleton is selfish but attempting to climb Everest when he has a young family to think of? Just read an article in the Daily Mail written by Ben Shackleton's wife bleating on about how brave he is to risk his life attempting to climb Everett. Am I being unreasonable to think it's not brave to do this when the biggest risk is leaving two young children without a dad?
Starting point is 00:03:02 He should have done this before he had kids or not had kids at all if he can't stop doing these stupid pointless challenges for months on end and risking his life in the process. How? Then it cuts off. That's where that post ends. What do you think happened to them while they're writing? Tumbled off of Everest. There's a gag in Monty Python and the Holy Grail Where it's like
Starting point is 00:03:28 And they found the treasure of Ah Something must have happened While they were carving it No that's why would he carve But this is more realistic They just stop How?
Starting point is 00:03:43 How? How? How do you feel about this post? Well I think there's something in it With regards to this kind of performative, macho, man has to conquer the world so they set out without their family, you know, the family is secondary to the man's goals
Starting point is 00:04:02 and the man's journey of self-discovery. I was bitching about this sort of thing just this morning, but not with people climbing Everest, more with, you know, dicker to go on a journey of self-discovery where they live in South America for a year and abandon their families. Yeah. That, except was more of a platform to tell people just how bloody great you are.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Yeah, so what I... think Ben Shattleton should have done, is taking the kids. Wow. Taking the kids up Everest. I've seen people trying to get kids on and off buses, and that looks like a real pain in the bum. There's all the snow, all the snow and everything, the Yetis. Yeah, kids are really slow and small and whingy. Yeah, it will be a difficult endeavour, but parenthood always is health.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I suppose, yeah, if he wants a true challenge, then he should take his kids. He is whettying out by leaving them behind. Yeah, if he's doing this Mount Everest challenge, let's face it, Everest has been climbed a lot. There's lots of people who've been up Everest at this point. Yeah. How many took their children?
Starting point is 00:05:07 That's true. Probably. I'm not even going to bother Googling it. Zero. I would hope zero. I really don't think you should take your kids up Everest. But if you do, then don't take my birth to it. I'm not even a parent.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I'm not judging. I am judging, but I don't know. Take the kids, take the wife, pack a picnic. I think you might need more than a picnic. Another thing, she's saying, oh, it's selfish because he has a family. It's selfish for all sorts of other reasons as well. Like, if you climb Everest, you can't be doing it entirely completely alone. You must be affecting other people one way or another.
Starting point is 00:05:39 And also, aren't all these mountains getting super damaged by, like, white dudes rocking up? Like, I'm here to conquer you. Like, you don't need to conquer it. It's a big mountain. Stop destroying it, you ass. Climbing gear in the mountains. Yeah, but also just the impact of having people walking and walking all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:58 So even if you... Damaging. Aren't that bothered about the kids aspect of it. It does seem selfish one way or another. Very, very much so. Simon has stopped to Google children of Mount Everest. Maybe there are a load of children who've been at Mount Everest. Maybe people have just strewn their kids there and that's why there's so much damage.
Starting point is 00:06:20 This one's holding a goat. go. Cute. Now these are kids who live around the Everest region. Right. And this is a charity for them. Okay. Those kids could probably do without a load of white dudes rocking up all the time as well.
Starting point is 00:06:34 I do like, one thing I will say before we hear from this thread, is I like that this poster describes Ben Shackleton's wife as bleating on in the Daily Mail. If you read the Daily Mail, there must be a degree of bleating on that you've come to expect. come to expect. I mean, if you're reading Sarah Vine's column, surely that's all bleating on? Isn't everything in the Daily Mail bleating on? How is Little Dawn not bleating on? Yeah, it's a paper for bleating on. I like, I don't like, but does Ben Shackleton's wife have a name? Probably the Daily Mail didn't see fit to print it. I don't know if this is the original poster's decision or the Daily Mail's. I would imagine the Daily Mail just refer to her as wife throughout. I'd also like to point one thing out from the thread.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I don't read the Daily Mail and I don't care about people going up Everest that's not the sort of news story that I would engage with so I didn't pick up on this until I started looking at what people have said on the thread when several people have come along to say don't you mean Ben Fogel don't you mean Ben Fogel
Starting point is 00:07:33 did you mean Ben Fogel do you mean Ben Fogel they do mean Ben Fogel Oh we're talking about Ben Fogel Yes that's a different person It does seem unreasonable to get so Hets up that you start a thread but not double-check the name of who you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah. And to be honest, I thought the Shackleton name was relevant and it was someone being like, oh, look at me, honouring my family legacy of being a white dude, getting all up in people's business. In May 2018, Ben Fogel, alongside Victoria Pendleton, the Olympic cyclist, will attempt to scale Mount Everest over a four-week period. They'll be joined by two local Sherpa guides,
Starting point is 00:08:09 as well as Kenton Cool. Kent and Cool has got a good name. A 44-year-old Brit who has summited Everest 12 times. She, surely after attempt number six, you're like, done this now. Yeah. You don't have to go up again. It's not changing.
Starting point is 00:08:26 If you go up with ever more well-known people, I was going to say famous, but I don't know that Ben Fogel or Victoria Pendleton quite fall into the famous camp. But if you keep going up with more and more well-known people, that raises your own profile, as long as you're happy with your profile only being that you'd go up Everest a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I really just want to see Kenton Cool climate because he looks cool. Kenton cool Everis is not a theme park ride but it's being turned into one What to these women Seeing these overachieving boars Jeez
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah James Cracknell was nearly killed On one of these challenges And his brain injury Has left him with a permanently altered personality I feel dreadfully sorry for his family Ben Fogel's wife name is Marina Hunt
Starting point is 00:09:08 James Crackle is Ben Fogel is Ben Fogel's best friend You'd have been enough Is he still his best friend Was he his best friend before his personality changed? If they've still got the same best friend, then they probably haven't changed that much, right? I don't know. Let's move on. I'm just wittering. Am I being unreasonable to think some bikini bottoms are obscene? These swimsuits seem popular all of a sudden and women have no problem getting their bums out at swimming pools or public beaches. I personally think
Starting point is 00:09:36 they're too much. I don't want to see anyone's bum cheeks. I probably sound jealous or like an old lady. But even if I had the body of a supermodel, I wouldn't wear it. I feel embarrassed with a small hint of cleavage. They're also not very flattering, even on the most attractive bodies. I just think they look cheap and tacky and I wonder when it became acceptable to wear something so revealing in public. Am I being unreasonable? Bottoms. Bottoms. This is not one that somebody has kindly sent in. This is one that I have selected because uncharacteristically there is a poster on mumset who i find thoroughly relatable i don't want to see anyone's bum i don't want to get my bum out at the swimming pool or the beach i don't want
Starting point is 00:10:19 anyone else get their bum out at the swimming pool or the beach i'm not familiar with this phenomenon but i've pieced together what we're talking about from context clues like a g-string but for swimming yeah a fong bikini button is a thong but for swimming yeah like a song but ordinarily you put clothes over that it's no one else's business but this time bum's a kimbo like the fong song but with swimming yeah exactly someone has taken the song song really to heart and they're like Cisco really wants to see that song yeah and he's got to be able to see it at the swimming pool when he goes in for his general swim there he is let me see that song and people like oh well yeah sure people are putting clothes over their songs but where would you see a song otherwise swimming
Starting point is 00:11:06 That's what's happened here. Here it is, Sisk. Just go. Just go. Take a peek. Take a peek. Yeah, he did want to see Fongs quite a lot. He was very into seeing Thongs. Unlike this poster, I'm definitely on the side of the poster as opposed to Cisco in this instance. Yeah, I mean, it just seems like it would be an uncomfortable way to swim. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Women's clothing for swimming tends to be tighter on the hall than men's anyway, so maybe I'm not the right person to be talking. But it seems very tight. That's true. Why is it that women? in, have very tight swimming clothes, which I'm sure are more aerodynamic and more comfortable for swimming in than being, you know, flapping about in a big crinoline. But, um, whereas men have like, bald shorts, which do seem like flapping about, not very aerodynamic, but... They're very much flap about when you're getting, like, the spa or the jacuzzi,
Starting point is 00:11:54 because then it fills with bubbles and your pants expand. Like a big mushroom? Yeah. Maybe that's why people have taken to wearing songs, because there's no room for mushrooming at all. I think if I wore a from bikini button, I would get in trouble. Yeah, people would say, you can see your bits. People laugh at... Put them bits away. Dem bits. It's like that McDonald's ad, so they're talking about the chicken nuggets.
Starting point is 00:12:19 No bits. I don't want anyone to see my chicken nuggets, thank you very much. Oh, no. Terrible description. I really like the tone of this post. I like everything about this post. It's really rare that I genuinely like anything on this website, but having had a week off having to go trawling through every post that ever comes up,
Starting point is 00:12:41 I'm feeling far more positive, and I love this person. Yeah, it sounds like you think this person's eminently reasonable. I absolutely do. However, I do think they start off making a very reasonable point, but then like everyone on mum said, they become needlessly judging. Yeah, it goes too far. You don't have to question if you're just old or your preferences. Just say you don't express your opinion.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Yeah, and then also it goes from being like, oh, it is just my opinion to saying, also they're not very flattering, they look cheap and tacky. Well, okay, yeah, you have said that it's your opinion, but you don't need to be unkind. Yeah. I don't want to see a bum. I'm not commenting on the quality of anyone's bum. I just don't want people swimming with their bombs everywhere. Especially like if you go to do that thing where you're at the end of the pool
Starting point is 00:13:26 and you go to, you know, like flip over so you can change direction. Your bum would go right in the earth. Yeah, exactly. It's just exposed. Exposed bottom in the pools. I just think it seems a bit silly. I think this is just a classic example of this website. Someone starts off with a point and they're like,
Starting point is 00:13:41 oh, am I being unreasonable? And then the way they frame their question answers it for them, and the answer is almost always. Yeah. Yeah, eventually you were being unreasonable. Maybe this is just the human condition. What, that we all end up becoming unreasonable? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Yeah, I mean, you're supposed to tend towards conservatism as you get older. Yeah. Maybe we all become unreasonable. by the end. And this person is just doing it as this post wears on, this post which is only about four sentences long. We're seeing their life shift in the post. Oh wow.
Starting point is 00:14:12 This is the turning point. Maybe that's what happened to the Ben Fogel person, when they got cut off. How, wait a minute, I'm wasting my life. And they stop shrieking immediately, but accidentally hit submit. Maybe they realised that they'd said Ben Fogel's wife, and then they were like, oh, maybe I should check her name, but I'd already started something. And then at that point it was when it went missing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:35 They went to search but accidentally hit enter and it submitted the whole thing. The thread is very much in disagreement with this woman. Yes, you are being unreasonable, H-T-H. So happy to help, which is extremely passive-aggressive-aggressive mum's net. Yeah, that's... There's no need for that. No. What other people put on their bodies has nothing to do with you.
Starting point is 00:14:55 If you don't like it, don't look. I feel like, you can say if you don't like it, don't look. If you're talking about like a baby getting their ears pierced. whatever, if someone's got their bomb out at the swimming pool. Yeah, I mean, we're back to the men taking their tops off as soon as Britain gets a little bit warm. Yeah. It's like, you're doing that in a public space, so I have no choice but to look at your chest. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:17 If this person had come on here and been like, I think thongs are inherently unreasonable. I would say, why are you going around looking at songs? Yeah, unless you're playing the thong song and everyone's showing it to you. But normally it's hidden, unless you have that boom box with you. And if you don't like thongs, you're really best off not blasting the thong song. Don't play the fong song. This is fundamental. If you don't want to see that fong, don't play the song. Yes, you're being unreasonable. I remember seeing women in thongs over 20 years ago on the beach, so it's not that new.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Okay, but that doesn't see. Oh, you've started to thread to criticise what some women choose to wear. Don't do that. It makes you look a bit daft. And people who criticise breastfeeding in public are equally stupid. Well, now we can flate in two different things. But that's not what you're doing. You're staring at people's arses and bitching about it. It's either jealousy or misogyny.
Starting point is 00:16:08 It's not staring at someone's ass. I don't know. I think I am just picturing a swimming pool where if you're doing lane swimming and the person in front of you is wearing a thong bikini, you have not chosen to stare at their ass. No. They have brought their free-flowing ass into a confined space.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Am I being unreasonable? Parents-in-law have sent me a bill for a broken wine glass. Yes, had to name change. Went to parents-in-law's home last weekend, had a glass of wine and accidentally dropped it. No big deal, they shrugged it off. I get on well with both father-in-law and mother-in-law, have been with D.H. for four years now and we're having our first child in four months. They're very well off, as in very well off.
Starting point is 00:16:53 D.P. and I, on the other hand, live in a rented three-bed semi-detached property, so definitely not as well off. I didn't know at the time, but said wine glass apparently happens to be pretty high-end. Father-in-law has this morning sent me an email asking that I can just transfer the 156 pounds to him, or buy the glass online. He even attached a link and included their address, should I not know it by now. At first, I thought it was a joke, only to realise that these people have no sense of humour, so they obviously must expect me to pay them ASAP. I haven't told DH yet, really shocked at this as they're not known for being stingy.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Am I being unreasonable not to pay this? Tempted to buy a £20 glass off of Amazon. Shouldn't have to pay any glass? No. If you've chosen to have £156 wine glasses, that's really on you if anything happens to them. Yeah, don't give them out to... Your daughter-in-law, who... Your five-month pregnant daughter-in-law. I did wonder about that, but...
Starting point is 00:17:55 I imagined to balancing the wine glass on her tummy. That's probably not the ghost. Oh, I hope she was. Like, oh, the baby's kicking. The baby kicks the wine glass off before the baby's even been born. Yeah, the baby should get the invoice. Yeah, but then they'll be interest waiting until such time as the baby can... Oh, late payment fees.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Yeah, exactly. These are expensive wine glasses, yeah. I would love to see what they look like. I'm imagining kind of crystal goblets. I would also think that if you have 156 pound wine glasses, you would probably have extremely high-end wine. So she's lucky they didn't bill her for the wine that was wasted when she broke the glass. And the presumably fur carpet that they fell on.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Of course. It's one of those outstretched snow leopards with the head still intact. Yeah, they're being unreasonable. The parents-in-law. She should talk to the husband too, like see if it is a joke. Maybe it's a funny joke. And also I feel like if she's going to say, well, I don't think I will be paying 156 pounds, not with having a child very soon, and that being a thing that I'd like to say, money for. It might help if their actual son gets involved and says, I don't think this is entirely reasonable, rather than leaving her to deal with it. It's a lot easier to speak to your own family than... I thought you meant the baby there for a minute. I thought you meant wait for
Starting point is 00:19:14 the baby to come out and have the baby mediate the dispute. I mean, on mumset, babies are very advanced, so I'm sure by the time the baby's four or five months old, they'll be able to mediate a dispute over probably a crystal glass. Yeah, provide conciliation service. Yeah. But then this is the same baby that kicks the wine glass off the stomach in the first place. This baby's a little hellraiser. Yeah, that baby can't control its wine. Well, I guess she wasn't drinking wine if she is five months pregnant. I think you can have a small glass of wine every now and then when you're pregnant if you're that way inclined.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Yeah, I know you can't have sushi. And most cheese is off limits. What? Yeah, apparently so. Wow, I'm never getting pregnant. I'm glad that you've decided. this minute. It would have been...
Starting point is 00:19:59 I need that cheese. It would have been difficult to explain and have you to come to terms with it if you hadn't decided that you didn't want this in the first place. Yeah, I've made my decision. Okay, good. Yeah, so it might have been
Starting point is 00:20:12 wine, it might not have been... Maybe that's why they're doing it. Maybe they're like, well, she shouldn't be drinking when she's pregnant anyway, so maybe if we send her a bill for 156 pounds, that'll teach her. Because some people are that petty, but it would seem easier to just,
Starting point is 00:20:25 if she had asked for a glass of wine, give her one and accept that it's her body and her choice and shut up or if they couldn't have done that for nobody to be drinking wine and for then just to have said oh no we haven't got any I just think they went around about this in the wrong way even if they did want to bill her they should have sent a bailiff
Starting point is 00:20:43 I think you have to send a bill before a bailiff you can't send a bailiff in the first instance send a bailiff with the bill but then they have tried to reclaim the cost of the bailiff presumably I presume bailiffs so expensive I would imagine so. It's human labour. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And all the admin that goes into the other human labour of the people who look after the bailiffs and booking in the bailiffs and payroll for the bailiffs. You know how in American, most often sitcoms, I guess. You see someone like a secret agent who serves someone divorce papers by pretending to be someone else because they have to verify their identity, I guess,
Starting point is 00:21:22 before they serve them. Yes. Do we have that here? Is that a thing in the UK? I don't know, but if it is, I might need to do a career change. I'd love it if my job was just going around in a costume serving divorce papers. Mr. Fredrickson, you've been served? And then I've run away flailing my arms.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I suppose you have to wait until they say yes. Mr. Fredrickson? Yes. You are, Mr. Fredrickson? No. You've been served. No. Yeah, that would get away from there.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Yeah. But maybe the bailiff could do that. Did you break Mrs. Frederixon? Do you break a wine glass last week? Moving on from the bailiffs. She should probably mention it to her husband anyway just in case it turns out this is something they totally have form for.
Starting point is 00:22:06 She's like, I don't really know what to make of this. This is an elaborate scam. Yeah. They always accidentally break a wine glass. And they know that most people aren't going to want to deal with buying the glass and getting it posted and all that. So they probably just make 156 pounds every time someone breaks a wine glass.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Because that's how people get rich. You don't get rich by spending money and not dicking over your in-laws. No, you get rich. That's what we've learnt from mums there. By buying cheap wine glasses, installing an ultrasonic sort of sound emitter somewhere in the living room. And then every time an in-law comes round,
Starting point is 00:22:39 bam! Trigger it. That shatters the wine glass through the frequency. You've made yourself a profit of 165 pounds, minus the cost of the wine glass and the ultrasonic emitter. I imagine the wine glasses were just from IKEA, so that's only a couple of quid. It's the ultrasonic emitter that we need to be.
Starting point is 00:22:57 That's an investment. It is. Yeah, that's the long game there. But yeah, then you got to hope it doesn't shatter windows or other glasses. Yeah, I hope that you never have anyone young enough to be able to pick up on this frequency. So when the baby's born, that's it, they're busted. Well, I mean, yeah, sure, I broke your wine glass, but you deafened my baby. Here's a bill.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Lots of people on the thread are just saying, do you think this is a decent? dig because you're pregnant and they didn't like the idea that you were drinking. And she said, I wasn't drinking alcohol, by the way. It was one of these mocktails served in this fancy glass. I'm not judging people who do drink alcohol though. So it wasn't that they were judging her for having a glass of wine. Well, here's enough. You don't put a cocktail in a wine glass. No, you definitely don't. And also the way she says one of these mocktails makes it sound like it came from a bottle ready mixed. So... No. This is all very gauche. It is terribly gauche. You just have a smoothie and a tumbler.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Yeah. I think if you have real money, you don't need to show off your fancy wine glasses. No. No, I think they do smell like new money. And I bet they dress like fake royalty. It's all in all. I think the parents are deeply, deeply unreasonable. Yep. Yeah. The poster doesn't seem unreasonable. It's the newborn or unborn baby unreasonable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Okay. Well, good. Let's do one last thread. It's a quickie. It's a good one. Am I being unreasonable to think glasses are magic? Okay, maybe not magic, but I got my first set of glasses today. I thought I only had a minor issue reading TV subtitles. Suddenly the world is sharp and far too weird. I don't know if I like it. It's too much.
Starting point is 00:24:40 This to me feels like it should be the opening of a big musical number. A big song I was about to say. Suddenly, the world is too weird and too much. It's also sharp. It's also clear. Bah, ba, bu, ba. Yeah. Hugh Jackman popped out,
Starting point is 00:24:57 Suddenly! Oh, I hope this is just Hugh Jackman testing out whether there's a market for his special glasses-based musical vehicle. There's a song called Suddenly that Hugh Jackman sings in the Le Miserables film. Not about getting prescription lenses, though, is it? I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:25:15 It's not in the original cast recording. It's new for the film. So I don't remember what it's about. It might be about Jean Valjean and picking up his new prescription. Oh, it might, okay. Presumably under an assumed name because he's a wanted felon.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Yes. Because he stole that loaf of bread. Of course. So that's reason enough to pursue him for 18 years. Saw it out, Javert. It was just a loaf of bread. But if you let every loaf of bread slide, then, I mean, the world is a better place, really. It consumed Javert for 18 years.
Starting point is 00:25:46 It's just a loaf of bread. Just a loaf of bread. Come down. Close the bread files. Close the bread files. Would you need glasses to read the bread files? Yeah, presumably. I mean, it was what? This is 18th century France.
Starting point is 00:25:59 So they write in that fancy cursive. I don't know that glasses would help them. It would be sharper. That fancy cursive, if it were blurry, would be harder to read than a nice Sanserife... Yeah. Comic Sans type font. Yeah, Comic Sans is good for reading, but I don't think they had that in Revolutionary France. No. Did they have classes in Revolutionary France?
Starting point is 00:26:19 Glasses have been around forever, haven't they? Claces have been around for a while. Someone on the thread has mentioned this, sorry. I'm very short-sighted, I got glasses at five, and now I'm older, I need very focals. And I've often thought about how amazing they are. A couple of hundred years ago, I would have been very disabled by my poor vision,
Starting point is 00:26:37 as I can only see a few inches clearly. My DD-1 got her first glasses two years ago, and I remember her saying, Oh my God, those are stars! She'd never seen them clearly. Oh. What a cute little walk on for this musical number about having glasses, but it's just a small child who has a verse about how they'd never
Starting point is 00:26:55 notice what the stars look like before. There's a song in Les Mizz about stars as well, and looking at the stars. Are we just writing Lai Miz? Are we writing Lé Miz, but sort of sponsored by Spex-Avers? Sort of, yeah. Everything's slightly adjusted to be about glasses. Someone said they're too scared to wear their glasses and see how dirty their house actually is.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Do you see the people sing? Could be one of the songs. Yeah. Eyeglasses were made in northern Italy about 1290. Wow. So I think they would have been available in revolutionary France, even if only for the bourgeoisie who were soon to be killed. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Well that's good to know. The thread is just people sharing stories about having glasses and being amazed by them. I used to be very short-sighted, blah, blah. I still marvel at what I can see and how much I must have missed before. I don't think this post is unreasonable. I don't think anyone's unreasonable except the person who came along to make some dig about not wearing glasses meaning you look thick, because everyone else is just genuinely sharing their joy at being able to see stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah, and that's very nice. I don't know if it's the right forum, but am I being unreasonable? It's not an am I being a reasonable question. Look down would be another good LeMay's track for our spectacle version. That's true, yes. And this is all focused around, let's say Jean Valjean steals spectacles instead of a loaf of bread. More expensive, so it makes more sense for Javert to pursue him for 18 years.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Yeah. These are just some notes, Victor Hugo. If you want to put these in next draft, go for it. Okay. I don't know that Victor Hugo is going to be redrafting Le Miz anytime soon. Well, whoever. And yeah, then it's all about Valjean enjoying his spectacles, losing his spectacles, fighting in the French Revolution with his spectacles on.
Starting point is 00:28:43 No, I like it. I think it's a good idea. Yeah? I just don't know that anyone's going to be rewriting Le Miz. So you might need to do this yourself. This is kind of fan fiction. Yeah, do some spectacle-based laymise fanfic. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Or maybe you could pitch this idea to a marketing agency see if they've got any optical clients who might be interested. Yeah, that's a good idea, because I think I only have song ideas for about 30 seconds worth of material. Which is perfect for an ad campaign. But not so good for a Broadway musical. Yeah. I think if people went into a Broadway musical and it lasted 30 seconds,
Starting point is 00:29:18 they would be upset, angry and riotous. Whereas if a Spexshavers advert won't want 30 seconds, they would be angry, but they wouldn't be riotous. Yeah, if anything, 30 seconds is more seconds than you need. That's too much. That is far too much for a Speck Saversad. Should we do one more speed round? Sorry, had you exhausted all you had to say about this.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Had I finished reading the LeMay's list of musical tracks and seeing if I could think of glasses-based puns. Yes. Am I being unreasonable? ladies. Go on. Lovely glasses. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Now you're just changing words to glasses, aren't you? Like, the well seen, the glasses scene, the soliloquy, glasses. Master of the house? Optician of the house? Yeah, okay. Optician of the house. Quick to catch your eye.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Oh. Never wants to pass a by to pass him by and not come into the optician. Do let us know if you think Simon's being unreasonable by really pursuing this bit after he admitted that he'd 10 minutes more than he had on it. I admire his commitment. Let's do one more speed round and then we'll stop
Starting point is 00:30:27 and everyone can go about their day. Am I being unreasonable to ask for school trip money back? Yeah, if they went on the school trip, they did it even if they didn't have a good time. Am I being unreasonable to break up with my personal trainer? No, no, they're not good for you. How are I being unreasonable, ginger hair dye? No?
Starting point is 00:30:49 Am I being unreasonable to think men put your nips away? Did you write that? I didn't, but I mean something about the summer brings out my in a mum's knitter, clearly. Put them nips away. Am I being unreasonable or did we get sold defective cats? Oh no, no. I think our cats might be defective. Hey, there's no such thing as a defective cat. One of our cats only has three toes on one of his feet, defective.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Am I being unreasonable? reasonable to find cashies throwing food into a bag very annoying. Yes. Very good. Thanks for listening. Yep, thanks for listening. Don't forget to send us some threads if you come across any. Every little helps.
Starting point is 00:31:34 We'd be happy to have them. Absolutely. Tweet us at YAB unreasonable and continue to listen to us on Anchor or Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. Wherever you get your podcasts. You've obviously found us somewhere, so that's good. Thank you. Thank you. Bye.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.