You Are Being Unreasonable - 028 - In which we fall in love with a TED-talking Gollum

Episode Date: September 13, 2018

"Smushies, sossies, rashers, dippers." This week, your favourite 8/10s look at Mumsnet once again and discover how to decorate a Marmite sofa, how to create Brunchables, how to "get things started" with someone, how to obliquely tell kids to pick stuff up off the floor, how to put lemurs in the bin, how to make rashers in the microwave at work, and whether it's possible to love a 3/10.

Hello, driving on drugs feels better when they're prescription. All I know is the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful. I feel fantastic and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, right now. I feel fantastic and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day when I felt the way that I do right now. Welcome to You Are Being Unreasonable, a podcast about people being unreasonable on mumsnet.com.

Yep. Have a look at the Am I Being Unreasonable boards and decide for them. Just to say, very unreasonably, Leon has sat himself right in front of the mic, so the whole episode might be backed by a low-level purring. That's a cat, not one of us being super creepy. Yeah, Leon's a cat. Not our housemate. No, that would be unreasonable. He's a very unreasonable boy in many ways, demanding food, affection.

That's nothing compared to some of these people. Shall we begin? Let's go. Time for the speed round. Am I being unreasonable to despise sister-in-law? Yeah, seems a bit harsh. Am I being unreasonable to not be happy for her achievements? Is this all the same one?

Yeah, if it's a sister-in-law, yeah. Am I being unreasonable to think Slytherin stand no chance? No, it's a bunker system. It's nonsense. Am I being unreasonable to ask how CDs play wirelessly? Whoa, no. I don't understand that one. It's 2018, why have you got any CDs? How do they play wirelessly?

Well, we're never going to open the thread. Oh. Let's move on. I think with Harry Potter is that you've got a specific evil house. It's nonsense. All kids are either brave, clever, doughy or evil. I'd far prefer to be evil than doy. Proud Hufflepuffs

Let's do this thread Am I being unreasonable to make rashes in the microwave at work I'm thinking I might streamline my morning By eating breakfast at work I do this sometimes And it means that I'm not hungry by 11am So far I've only had yoghurt or cottage cheese I was thinking of maybe doing scrambled eggs in the winter

But would I be unreasonable to do rashes in the microwave I've got one of these, and it's a sort of microwave bacon contraption, so I wouldn't make a mess. I get in very early. Yeah, get them rashes in the microwave. Hey, throw some sausages in while you're at it. Get some dippers in, too. You get the makings of a good breakfast.

Smush some eggs, get some smushers. You don't tend to eat breakfast. Socies, rashes, dippers. You don't tend to eat breakfast, and now I'm super relieved that I don't see you eating breakfast because if I got up in the morning at the weekend and you were cooking rashes, sausages, chicken. dippers, some smushed eggs, whatever they are. Else I get some smushies and some rashes for you.

Oh, I don't eat rashes. Turkey rashes. No, no, no. Even better, throw a yog in there. Get some yog up in this business. Mm, yog. Are you genuinely telling me you don't think it's unreasonable to cook rashes in the microwave? No, I'm just making funny names for some microfutives.

Get some waffes. Can't cook wafers. in the microwave. You can cook them in the toaster if they're potato waffles. This isn't a side. I think the microwave will get them good and crispy like that American bacon. You know the difference between American bacon and British bacon? That's garbage. Microwaves make things wetter and softer. Like if you if you're making a cheese toasty but you just heated it through in the microwave, the bread would be soft, the cheese would be soft, nothing would be crisp. I imagine microwave

bacon would be the same. It would be all like limp and. Here's the thing with making rashies at work. Okay. I'll be prepared to make enough for everyone, because everyone's going to want them rashies. Or everyone's going to hate you because you've microwave rashes and now everything smells of microwave rashes. Everyone smells deliciously of rashes and everyone wants them. I think this person needs to reflect on their decision to make scrambled eggs in the winter as well because microwave scrambled eggs is not the most sociable thing to do. Someone's going to clean that microwave. It sounds like this person's volunteering.

I think as soon as you make rashes in the microwave, the social contract is that you're cleaning that microwave. Just don't even make up right. I'm incensed by the idea that I could get to work to find that some bell end had been microwaving bacon before I got in because everything would smell of microwaved bacon. I'm genuinely furious at this poster.

Out on them rashes. It's disgusting. Let's have a look at the thread. It's long as Simon can wet his beak. Genuinely. No, the thread agrees with me. Someone said I'd honestly complain to HR of our work microwave stank of bacon in the morning.

I don't know you can flage at HR about a microwave. Well, here's the thing. Like, everything stinks after it gets out the microwave. A microwave stink. Microwaves are awful. So what can you cook in the microwave? Well, just don't have a cooked breakfast that you've made at work. If you want to cook breakfast, have it at home.

Or if you want to have breakfast at work, stick with what you've been doing, which is yogh. Or apparently, just cottage cheese by itself for breakfast. This is why all works should provide a little calf we can get. rashies, sauceies, smushies, nugs, yugs. I used to work somewhere that had a canteen that sold hash browns in the morning, and all the other breakfast items were pork-based, so I wasn't going to eat any of those,

so I'd just go in every morning and have two hash browns with a side of mustard. Yeah, they had hash browns at a university I worked for. It was great, and saucy fingers. Simon's literally never described sausages as saucies until about 12 hours ago when he first did it, and now... Sossies, smushies. Now he seems determined to just keep saying, saucies. Sossy fingers. Disgusting. Someone else has said, what about some cold ham if you'd like some

meat? Yeah. That seems more sociable, sure. Yeah, bring in a little Tupperware container with cold ham, some slices of cheese, maybe some crackers. Maybe streamline this by buying a lunchable. Yeah, exactly. Why not take lunchable? Because they're luncheables and this is breakfast. Oh, because they're for children. Breakfastables. Yeah. Breakfastables. Little Tupperware container containing sauceies, smushies, gashies. I just think... Brunchable contains waffles and a bloody mary just poured into the tub of it.

No, I'm sorry, but I don't think you should be microwaving anything for your breakfast. I know that all microwaves smell and it's of shame and all that, but by lunchtime I feel like you might be more able to deal with the fact that, sorry, the microwave smells. It's not like coming in. Someone's got in super early. If you get in that early, if you're basically saying, get in before anyone else so it's fine why don't you come in a little bit later and eat your bacon somewhere the hell else what if you bring in your own microwave just

have it at your desk no because it's the smell it generates out into the room isn't it what if you bring in your own microwave and some kind of isolation tent like a pop-up tent to isolate the fragrances from your microwave all of this is saying to me why don't you just pick up a bacon roll on your way in steve can i come in the isolation microwave tent no there's rush has been made. I'm going to move on. I think this person's deeply unreasonable and I can tell that you don't.

Am I being unreasonable to expect the kids to understand when I say, what is X, Y, Z doing on the floor? That I mean for them to put it up and put it away or put it in the bin or whatever. Kids are age 7 to 12, so they're not little ones.

I've asked me if they understand what I'm getting at and they say they do, but they still don't listen. Yeah, need to be clear. Yeah. Why are you complaining? Oh, you're being cutesy and hinting rather than just saying, would you pick that up and put it in the bin, please?

Yeah, you just get to say what you mean. I just don't understand why you've started to thread about this. What are you expecting to come of it? If you know that your kids don't respond well to you being cutesy and passag, maybe you should just say what you mean and they might do it. And then if they don't do it and you've said exactly what you mean, then it's a little bit easy of you to be like, oh, come on now. I do this with my wife, who's a grown-ass woman, when she says you,

When you say, can I have some crackers, I say, you mean may I have some crackers? How often do I ask you for crackers? Why are you trying to present this thing that makes it look like some sort of, I don't know, Henry Higgins situation up in here? The rain in Spain falls mainly on the Jacobs green crackers. I don't want wet crackers. Can microwave them? Disgusting. Try them out.

Disgusting. There's not a lot to this. It's a very straightforward. question but genuinely why have you started a thread about it rather than just saying what you mean this is classic mumsnet again classic mumsnet you're going to get the kids uh to a point where they think that anytime someone points something out what they actually mean is that they should pick it up you're responsible for socializing these kids exactly what happens if the kids go to the zoo and someone's like oh what's the lemur doing and the kids like fine i put the lemur in the bin

God! Look, someone dropped a dirty string on the floor, and the kid goes for it. And the kid's got hepatitis. Oh, man. Yeah. Oh, and this all... All because of this linguistic ambiguity.

Say what you mean. Exactly. Can you pick that up, please? Yeah. Can you not put sausages in the microwave? Exactly. Can you get my rashes off the floor? Yeah, as if someone said,

oh, what's the bacon doing in the microwave? It'd be easy enough to say, well, I'm just going to make it for my breakfast. You need to be very clear. And what you mean is, get the bacon out of the fucking microwave. You sicken me. Yeah, what's the bacon doing in the microwave? Heating up slowly. Yeah, let's see what the thread says.

One of the techniques teachers are given with children who may not be great at following instructions is to give the command, then immediately thank the child. I'm not saying you left that wrapper there, but pop it in the bin, please. Thanks. Asking why something on the floor is counterproductive. You're just going to get, I don't know. I don't think this person needs advice on saying please and thanks and all that. They just need to say what they mean.

And if at that point it doesn't work, then sure, do this thing where you say thank you straight afterwards. But it's so straightforward that if you're being ridiculous and not saying what you mean and therefore not getting the results that you had hoped for, just say what you meant. Someone else, I can't stand hint droppers. What's that hint doing there? Just asking to pick it up and put it away. What's that hint doing on the floor? What's the joke I was making?

What are you doing, repeating that joke? What's this joke you left angling? And then someone else has come back and they've reframed it from the perspective of the kids, which is a cunning linguistic trick of itself. Am I being unreasonable to expect my mum to say what she actually wants rather than you stupid passive-aggressive language that makes me really mad? That's a clever trick. Yeah.

That's pro-mums now. This person's clearly been around. Someone said, C, all say questions like, do you want to help with this? Do you want to make me a cup of tea? Do you want to put that away? No, no and no are the answers.

A lot of people have got ridiculously strong feelings about this. Someone said, a double what may be useful here. Where is, sorry, why is X, Y, Z on the floor? And then with no space to answer, ask, where should X, X, Y, Z be? No, no, no. You've just asked two questions, when one direct request would do.

This is why we end up with so many people who are not fit for line management because they don't want to say, they don't want to give direct commands, do this, can you do this please? Because they've been raised passive-aggressively by mum's nessus. I quite openly struggle with authority

in a lot of situations at work. I've had a lot of managers where I've clearly thought that they were just inept idiots and wondered why they felt like they had the right to try and get me to do stuff. But in all cases those managers never just asked me to do stuff and I'm sure that's part of why I resented it so much

Like when I work somewhere for over a year And every damn day It's like, hey, Helen, have you gotten any further With digitising this box of stuff? No, no, I absolutely haven't Because you've never been able to tell me why I should do it You want me to, is a deadline? Hey Helen, is that getting digitised?

No, it's quite clearly just in a box, isn't it? Clearly not. Have you spoken to any digital people? What are you on about? No. If she'd eventually just said, Helen, just digitise the box of stuff, then I wouldn't have been able to get around it, and I wouldn't have had this ongoing battle. Yeah, just give clear instructions.

If something's framed as a question, and you know that they're asking you to do something specific, but you think the thing you're being asked to do is utterly pointless. It's a lot easier to just dodge it. I'm not saying that, you know, putting things in the bin is pointless. It's not the same. This woman's not trying to make her kids digitise boxes of stuff for no reason. No, that might be unreasonable.

That's a child labour employee. and nepotism, as we've learned in the past. That should go out to a job advert. So should this, so should picking the things above the floor. It's nepotism to ask your own kids to do it. Well, I don't think they're getting paid. It's experience. My response to what is your shirt doing on the floor would be,

not doing much, what were you expecting to do? Okay, so I realise that sounds rude, so I think it, not say it, but the point being, it's not a very constructive question. Yeah, but you seem a bit unbearable. too. That's the thing as well, you've generated scope for other people to be smart, Alex. That's what I'd say to this question. Whereas if someone says, will you put your shirt away, please? You can't come up with a witty retort to that. The worst you can do is say no, and then you look like the dick.

You put your shirt away? No. Okay. So this one was sent in by our friend Sarah. Am I being unreasonable to think this is the most gorgeous suite you have ever seen? I got this from antique shop and I love it, but my DH is not on show. too short, and I want to know if it's just me that likes it. It's nearly 80 years old. And then attached is a picture of a sofa and a chair in a sort of brown and gold brocade in a room which is beige with a grey carpet and like a weird IKEA cabinet in the corner. Let's tell it like it is. The suite is poo coloured. Poo with a gold brocade.

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fair. The sweet, in many ways, looks a lot like poo. It's a kind of fractal pattern on the sofa, and it's gross. It's not the most gorgeous sweet I've ever seen. It's also incredibly worn, and it's worn in a pattern that really indicates exactly where someone's thighs have been for 80 years. So that's good. We can really get a picture of the former owner, or at least of the width of their thighs. It's very old. It's very dated.

It doesn't go with anything in the room as well. I feel like if the room had been sort of decorated in a classy way. Or if the room been decorated in any way that spoke to possibly giving a toss about how the room was decorated, you would look at it and you'd be like, okay, well, it's a feature, isn't it? But because the room is like magnolia on the walls and then it's got this horrible grey carpet and this disgusting, probably plastic, but pine effect cabinet, and none of it goes. It all looks a little bit like the furniture that you might get if you've been victim of a house fire and then some people really meant well

but weren't being overly helpful. Yeah, looking at some of the comments down below, it's a real Marmite sofa, like people who ever love it or hate it, which is appropriate because it's the colour of Marmite. It is. Somebody has said, it's absolutely divine. Husband would have me sectioned.

See, two different opinions. Please don't ever try to get your partner sectioned because they bought a sofa you didn't like, though. Some very sinister person says, I bet it's seen some action over the years. I don't want this sofa that people have had sex. Someone said, if it was in grandeur or more quirkier, no. If it was in grander or more quirkier surroundings, then I quite like it.

However, the surrounds look like a rather bland front room. Consequently, it looks drab rather than quirky, which is what I've just said. You need to change the front room. And then there are a few people saying that the sofa's a nice shape, which is really funny. It's like when someone's got a really hideous coat and you're like, that looks warm. Yeah, that's backhanded. Yeah.

That's nothing. We'll post a link to this thread so that you can see this sofa. Yep. And you can enjoy the imprint of someone's thighs. Imagine how much action it's had over the years. Also, sorry, someone's just come along and said, yeah, I mean, I like the shape but not the fabric

and it does not go well with the cabinet. So I'm glad it. So you don't like it. Yeah. It's nice that people are moms that still feel like they should try to find something constructive to say when there's no reason to. Are I being unreasonable to be absolutely fuming? Just being to a close friend's wedding with B.F. and D.D. B.F. didn't really know anyone,

so spent quite a bit of time playing with D.D. on the lawn, which he was fine with, as D.D. loves him to bits and they have a great time playing. He asked me why I was being off with him, which I didn't think I was. He then got annoyed, shouted at me in front of everyone and stormed off and went home. I've just got back an hour's drive and he isn't here, so I'm assuming he's gone out to watch the football with his mates. Isn't this most selfish thing in the world? He was at a wedding of a friend of mine, not he's, and it was completely ruined because I had to spend the afternoon keeping a toddler occupied. I had to leave halfway through the speeches as she was exhausted and squealing. This has been a close friendship for 10 years

and I'll never get it back. I am aware that she's my child too. But I rarely get a chance to socialise with my friends. This was supposed to be a relaxing day for me to catch up with some people. Clearly something happened here that we're not being told. What do you think happened that we're not being told? I mean, why did he think she was being off with him? What happened in between playing nicely on the lawn and storming up? Reading between the lines, she's sent the kid and the boyfriend to go and play on the lawn

and then she's fannyed around talking to our friends and not engaged with either of them at all. You're right If we went somewhere and you told me that I had to just hang out with Ozzy and Leon and then you went and spoke to people and wouldn't speak to us You'd have a great time It does sound like she doesn't want to spend time with her kid I also only realised at the very end That the kid is the boyfriend's kid too

She's framed it in a really strange way at the beginning Like he gets on great with her, they have a lovely time playing Then it becomes apparent that Oh yeah, I didn't get that at all I'm aware that she is my child too. Yeah, hmm. I mean, okay, so he asked why being off. Then he got annoyed and shouted at me in front of everyone and stormed off and went home.

That's not on. Like, that's not the way to conduct yourself. I get that. No, that's nonsense. But why? But then, the more you read. So, like, it was the wedding of a friend of mine, not he's. It was completely ruined because I had to spend the afternoon keeping a toddler occupied.

Your toddler? I get the impression that she brought her boyfriend along and her toddler along. that the boyfriend could do all the child care, which makes me wonder why they even bothered coming if she just wanted to go. Could she not have just said, like, oh, I'll go to the wedding and you two stay home? Yeah, that's the solution.

Because that would be easier, better childcare where the boyfriend and the kid could do whatever they wanted to do, rather than being at a wedding, just stuck playing on the lawn. I can watch Pepper Pig. So, I think she's being quite unreasonable. And then she gets home and he's not there,

and she's all mad about that. But, I mean, it's probably best, isn't it? Because you've said yourself that you're fuming. He's shouted at you. I probably thought it was best that you have some time to cool off. Weddings cause a lot of stress for people. Just the very fact that she's so angry that she had to spend time with her child at this wedding, when she expected him to do nothing but spend time with a child,

she is being deeply unreasonable. He should not have shouted at her. No. But she's definitely being very unreasonable. Let's see what the thread says. When I drag my partner along to places he knows no one, I spend the day sat predominantly with him, otherwise why not leave him and D.D. at home? Yeah, fair.

Well, you don't have to own. sit with him, you could introduce him to these people that... Yeah, hello. If this friend is a friend of yours that you've known for 10 years and it's such an important friendship and this is, you know, your long-term partner in the father of your child, wouldn't you try to introduce them a bit? I had to look after the toddler. Well, you are her mother, and who refers to their child as the toddler?

Seems a bit detached to me. Ooh. Am I being unreasonable to feel attracted to someone unattractive? I was walking home one day past this guy who I don't know. Let's call him A. A was well groomed, wearing a suit and tie, clean shave, etc. I looked at him, but I didn't feel attracted to him. He is not remotely attractive, and most people would rate him a three out of ten.

A few weeks later, I walked past an office and saw A playing with his son. I noticed him looking at me, but I didn't think much else. Two days later, I was surprised to find out that A was in fact a respected member in the community. He gives a lot of seminars and weekly talks on self-development, life, etc. I've heard his name mentioned many times before by friends that attend and recommend his talks, but never seen him or paid that much attention to him. He is also divorced and a single father. So I decide to look up his talks on Facebook and get hooked.

His knowledge, confidence and personality shines through. After listening to so many talks, I feel extremely attracted to A and felt like I could look past his looks. He is pale, bony, has a chipped tooth, a slightly hunched, back and health complications. As weird as it sounds, I see him as a ten out of ten look wise. I feel desire towards him and butterflies in my stomach when watching his video. I even saw one video with a panel discussion, where there were around five other men along with him, and he appeared to be the least attractive of them all. There were two handsome panel speakers,

but I didn't feel anything towards them, but felt a burning sensation of desire and attraction towards A. I'm really thinking of getting things started with A. He shares custody between his ex-wife. I have no kids myself, but I'm willing to be a stepmother to young kids. I've never considered single dads previously, but now I'm willing to accept it without question. Before I pursue this, I want to know if it's possible to sustain a relationship in the long term with someone you initially viewed as unattractive.

I'm now in a, you can call it, sort of, honeymoon phase, but when reality sets in, what will possibly happen? Will I just see A is the initial 3 out of 10 and feel unsatisfied? Is anyone here in a relationship with a partner who is unattractive, but that they feel extremely attracted to? Am I being unreasonable to think it's possible to feel intense attraction towards an unattractive person? Wow, so she feels very attracted to this little goblin man,

this hunched, broken goblin man. He's pale and bony with a hunchback and a broken tooth. Harals, uh... But also a respected member of the girl. community. I'm a respected member of the community. I don't think he would have a voice like that if he regularly does talk because I think there would be too much prejudice against listening to that sort of noise. No, maybe this is exactly the kind of prejudice she's overcoming in her discovery that people can have attractive qualities beyond physical attraction.

She discovers new things about herself. How did she even register that she'd spotted the same guy twice and then find out that he is a respected member of the community. I saw him scrambling in the dirt, covered with mud, pale, bony, sucking on a fish skeleton. And then next time I saw him giving a TED talk. To be perfectly honest, if I saw someone twice and I thought that they were like a regulation hotty, 10 out of 10, and then I found out they regularly gave seminars on life, etc. Then I'd be like, oh, there are 3 out of 10 now, that's a shame. Oh, some sort of TED talk wanker.

This person's objectively a three out of ten. Most people. Oh yeah, sorry, most people would say that... Seven out of ten cats would say he's a three out of ten. She really seems to think, like... How does she know so much about him? Initially she knew nothing, except that she'd seen the same ugly douged twice. And now she knows that he does talks, and she knows that he's divorced,

and he shares custody of this child. Well, yeah, I mean, she's learned a lot about him, But does this disgusting, gross gollum man get a say in this? What if he doesn't want to go out with her? What if he thinks she's a three out of ten? I am really thinking of getting things started with A. What does that mean? I really think of getting things started.

It's such a creepy, creepy way to phrase it. She turns out we're a boombox underneath the window, like in say anything, except it's playing. Let's get it started in her. Let's get it started. He peers are out with his hunchback and he's broken tooth. He's after six, so he's already in his ventilation gear for his many health conditions. I just don't understand.

She's never had a conversation with him, and yet she's considering being a stepmother to his kids. It's all terribly alarming. I think we need to know what the kids look like. That's a good point. Are they three out of ten kids? If they're more like six out of ten kids, does that mean that his ex was like a nine out of ten woman? Yeah.

Maybe just women are attracted to this man because of his obvious confidence. And despite his pale, bony, disgusting, greasy appearance. Maybe his talks are some sort of mind trickery. He's actually like a pickup artist. Oh, he's like Darren Brown. Yeah. So...

Planting seeds. Yeah. She sees him twice, and then she watches all these videos, these seminars, that she's thinking of being a stepmother to his kids like maybe he did that somehow maybe he's seeing someone no he's a three out of ten he'd be lucky for her to get things started good it started it's all very odd so like let's look at the thread lots of people have said if you stopped to consider he may not be attracted to you yeah and then the original post has come back and said he

looked at me with admiration the second time he saw me i will speak to him soon soon he will be mine. What? He looked at me with admiration the second time he saw me. This is like some Jane Austen shit. So the first time you walked past and recoiled in horror, then the second time he was with his kid but he saw you and then looked in admiration. Is that what's supposed to have happened? If anyone listening has read Eleanor Oliphant is completely fine, I do wonder if it's just someone who's testing out a book that's a bit like that. But it does feel like this can't possibly be real, except I get the horrible feeling it probably is real. In the last paragraph, she asked for advice from people going through the same thing, right? People who are with an unattractive

person. As someone in this position, what would you, what would you recommend? How do you get through the day? How do you wake up in the morning? Next to this pale gollum man. Bet you've married. Oh, you haven't got a hunchback or a chipped tooth, though. No, you've got crooked teeth. I'm just, why is she talking about everyone in terms of numbers as well? Do people really like pass someone on the street? Because the first time she's seen him, why did she even register him? I don't, I couldn't tell you who I walked past and what rating out of ten I would give them at any given moment. Yeah, but if you saw a three out of ten, they're pretty rare.

Are they? It's disgusting. I don't know how the rating system works. Encrusted with filth. Did she just go through her whole life, just seeing people being like three? Like Robocop. Like Robocop. Like Robocop.

Sit down five and nine is talking. Somebody has given this terrible advice. Maybe get to know him and see how it goes. Don't get to know him. He doesn't deserve that. He's probably fine. And I don't think he needs you muscling on his life trying to step parent his kid. She already knows him.

She's watched all his YouTube videos. She's watched all his live streams. He looked at me with admiration. I mean, let's see what some other people from the thread have said. I'd be fucking gutted if someone ever spoke about me like this. I'm sure we're all attractive to someone out there. Beauty is subjective and definitely not the Beul and Endon attraction. Yeah, what if one day he discovers this thread?

What if, by some chance, he listens to this podcast? We're a podcast for three out of tens. Don't alienate the listeners, darling. But, I mean, yeah, if he discovers it, and by that point she'd been step-parenting this child for 10 years, is, that's going to really mess up the kid as well. Yeah, and the kid probably didn't have a lot going for them. Oh, we don't know.

We don't know if maybe the ex-wife, the baby mama was a... A nine. Yeah, maybe even a ten. The O.P. never tells us what she thinks she is, which I think is a key piece of information. Because if the Ops is looking and she's like, oh, he's a three and I'm a seven, like, oh, if the Opsie's like, oh, he's a three and I think I'm like a ten, then she's unhinged.

Or if she thinks that she's like a five, then, like, what's it matter? I don't think Ten's post and mum's net. I think tens are actors and models. Or statesmen, like Justin Farrow. Someone said, maybe he was admiring you being outside in public with your two out of ten looks.

Ooh. Sick burn. Burn. And then just my favourite comment from this whole thread. Cricky, I'm picturing the hunchback of Nostradamus, O.P. That's not. That's not a thing. That's not how that works.

It's not Tradarm. Not Dradam. There's a hunchback of Nostradamus. There's a huntback who can see the future. And in the future, this woman has moved in. It's step-parenting his child. I think, it's all very odd, isn't it? Sorry, my previous reply got cut off.

Thanks for the serious replies. Not sure why people are being so sarcastic towards me. Not nice. Oh, I'm sorry. He's not conventionally attractive. That's what I meant by the three out of ten. I apologise to anyone who thought I worded it offensively. It wasn't my intention.

I only got three hours of sleep last. night so I'm fatigued. I was thinking of going to his talks, speaking to him at the end and taking things from there. I have a friend that knows him personally. Her kids and his kids are friends and go to the same sporting events. I might tag along with her when she sees him. Is that a good idea? No. No, I don't think it is a good idea. The kids will be playing sports. Someone talk about their kids' sports and probably leave and you'll be there. I'm like, hello! I've managed to see past your hideous face. So 10 out of 10 is conventionally attractive. Like chisel jaw. you know, nice cheekbones.

John Hamm. Yeah. Let's say 10 out of 10 is John Hamm. Yeah. So a 3 out of 10 is... McKenzie Crook? Yeah, I was thinking Martin Freeman. Oh, I think it'd be more middly.

I think more middly. Yeah, Martin Freeman's a bit too attractive. Yeah. Mm, McKenzie Crook does have those big eyes. As part of why he's so troubling to look at. Yeah, but I'm thinking less attractive than that. Hmm. It's difficult.

because those people aren't on TV. It's true. TV's not for three out of tens. No, it's not. Someone said perhaps you can be his Esmeralda. And now there's just lots of people wondering whether or not the OP is real or if it's a man who's posted this to try and highlight how shallow women are. Are being unreasonable? Shopping Trolley Gestapo's.

No, not if it's an actual Gestapo. Like if these are actually Nazis guarding shopping trolleys, then that's bad. That is very bad. We'll never know. Am I being unreasonable car insurance dilemma? Oh, yeah. Just get the car insurance.

Am I being unreasonable ordering a takeaway to a hotel? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Am I being unreasonable? Do you think that teachers need to have good maths in English? No. That would seem a pre-work visit. Am I being unreasonable?

What nibbles should I take to a daytime PIMS party? I don't know This isn't my life And Our being unreasonable What cheese is fashionable Gooda Gooda

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