You Are Being Unreasonable - 030 - In which we investigate the ancient art of tyromancy

Episode Date: October 11, 2018

"I'd watch Ann Widdecombe: Cheese Investigators." Should you read out the slides in your presentation? How do we approach our 'creative' colleagues? How do you accuse your mother-in-law of stealing your shoes? In answering these questions, we use stolen supermarket cheese to divine the future, we watch the Surgeon General read out the clip art on their TED talk, we wear flip-flops to express our artistry, and we steal wellies back from Satan.

Hello, driving on drugs feels better when they're prescription. All I know, the world looks beautiful. The world looks so damn beautiful. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, right now. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day,

when I felt the way that I'm back for another episode of You Are Being Unreasonable, a podcast about Mumsnet and people being unreasonable on it. In particular, on the Am I Being Unreasonable boards? Yes? It was a party thing, a party tweler. Oh. It's episode 30. The Big Three-O.

The Big Three-O. We made it. Middle Age. I suppose middle age is more like, what, 40 nowadays? Yeah, I mean, people live to like 100. 50. But anyway, 30 episodes, so if you want to go back through the archives, pick your favourite bits, listen to theirs, choice cuts. Oh, we could have just binned this off and done a compilation show.

Put a laugh track in the background. No, but we look at Mum's Net Freds on the Am I Being Unreasonable Board and decide if they're being unreasonable or not. We do. We'll begin with the speed round, as ever. I'll just read the thread titles and Simon has to make a snap decision as to or whether or not the person is being unreasonable. Yep, sight unseen. Just got to judge people. That's what the internet's all about. Am I being unreasonable? In-laws really negative about new puppy.

Wow. To the new puppy. About the new puppy. Yeah. Don't shout at that little puppy. It doesn't know any better. Am I being unreasonable to get cross at airport baggage carousels? Always turning, turning so quickly. So crows. Yes, it's not their fault.

Am I Being Unreasonable? The most beautiful woman is on Channel 4 Plus 1 on Sunday brunch. Wow, we miss that, no. And Am I Being Unreasonable? I just lost the game. So did we. So did you, listener. We all lost the game. God damn it.

That's the point of carrying on. Wow, that's bold. But carry on, we must. Am I being unreasonable to read slides in presentations? Posting here blatantly for traffic, am I being unreasonable reading slides in PowerPoint presentation? I have to do a 10 minute presentation for an interview. This is absolutely something I am terrified of and also not very good at. The job does not involve standing up doing PowerPoint presentations, by the way.

In fact, for my sector, I thought we had stopped doing this. Even a new colleague in my own department stated she had not had to do one. We're the same level as the job I'm going for. I get nervous in these situations and slightly lose my ability to speak, so help me. Do I read the slides or talk around them? Some are quotes from things. For example, WHO stated X, etc. Others are easier to talk around, i.e. my skills.

How do I present well? It's to a panel. I know some of you probably have jobs doing such things. Thank you anyone who can guide me. And this one's from Jeremy Hunt. I think you should just read the slides and the clip art to speak out the clip art

say what you've exactly put in here can you give me an example yeah so we're up to a little man and he's got a speech bubble and the speech bubble says invest and it's talking about you you should invest thanks for coming to my TED talk I hope that it's talking about you

you should invest thanks for coming to my tread talk is also written on the slide In the bubble yet Yeah I mean please no Don't read the slides in your presentation Why did you have to start a thread As this goes on

It becomes apparent that It becomes apparent that you know Maybe you shouldn't read the slides Why did you do this? Of course you're being unreasonable to read the slides The panel can no doubt read I really am picturing them putting like solid blocks of text, absolutely verbatim. Literally everything they're saying.

Yeah, so the first slide, rather than having their name, says, hi, I am. Snowcat runs the house, as they use the name. Yeah, I imagine that the first slide says, hello, my name is Snowcat runs the house, and I will be presenting on, it's all written there. Well, here's the conceptual exercise. You have that, all your slides are written out verbatim what you would say, and you just act out the mannerisms as if you were saying it, but in silence. stony silence. That sounds like a weird Andy Kaufman bit. Can have some music on in the background if you're like?

Can I steal this idea and do it as a show? Please. Some sort of interpretive dance backed by a PowerPoint. Yeah, maybe if you actually put it together as a show, we'll remember to promote it on the podcast, which we haven't done for your previous shows. Well, never mind. If they get nervous and lose the ability to

I'm not sure that it really matters what they plan to do. If the problem is they can't speak, then reading out directly from the slide. It's probably the best way to do it. Oh no, if you can't even read. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny, isn't it, how you have to do PowerPoint presentations for a certain grade of job, even if that job never involves PowerPoint presentations.

It is interesting that this person makes a point of saying the job does not involve standing up doing PowerPoint presentations. Like I frequently have to do PowerPoint presentations in job interviews. and job interviews, and I'm a developer. So, like, a better test would be, can you write us a bit of code? Yeah. But it's never that. It's, can you stand up here and talk about X theory for 10 minutes? So when I interviewed for my current job, which is, of all the jobs I've ever had, the job I like the most,

I was explicitly asked not to do a PowerPoint. They said, we'd like you to talk about this. Please do not do a PowerPoint. We will not look at it. We will not give you the opportunity to show us a PowerPoint. PowerPoint is not allowed. And I think that's nice, because day-to-day, unless you work in, I don't know, like HR training,

the likelihood is you're not fannying around with a PowerPoint very often. No, I do conference presentations fairly regularly, and I do accompanying PowerPoints. But I don't, and I do read my presentations, but I read off a script, not off the slides. Yeah. The slides are a visual accompaniment, a visual feast for the senses to accompany my oral feast for the senses.

feast for the senses I like that they say in fact in my sector I thought we'd stopped doing this I want to know what sector it is where they thought that they were the first sector to break the cycle of anyone ever having to do a power point

do you think it is WHO as in World Health Organization I would imagine it's not just who capitalised oh that would be even better who stated X maybe and maybe the next one is

where Stated X. How? Why? Why? If it is W.H.O. That suggests they might be interviewing for something like Surgeon General. I really hope the Surgeon General isn't posting on Am I Being Unreasonable

because they're not sure how to do a presentation. That would really not inspire faith. They don't have to do presentations. They just have to carve up people's guts. I think the Surgeon General is probably removed from the day-to-day surgery. Yeah, probably. They probably do have to present. Today, I'll be talking about how to carve up the guts.

I'm the Surgeon General. Is that all written on the slide? Thank you for coming to my tip-top. Shall we hear from the thread? Yes. Do not just read the slide. Okay. Great.

Good advice. Can you memorize what you want to say? That way, it's like reading a slide in the sense that it's all pre-prepared. Keep text on the slides to a minimum. No, memorizing's hard. It's like memorizing lines for a play. It's really hard. Some people have that skin and some people don't. I don't think I do any more. I think I was in plays in school, but I wasn't very good at memorizing lines, and you enjoy it? Were you ever in a play that was a remake of Friends?

It's irrelevant, what kind of play? That's a weirdly specific question, Helves. Have you ever played the character from Friends, Gunther? These are weirdly specific questions, and I think we're getting wildly off topic. That's true. Plus, I didn't have any lines as Gunther. That's not the play I was thinking of. The displayed slides should only have key points on them

to summarise what you are saying. I think that's a nice response. It's helpful. It's not snarky. A lot of them are very snarky that just say, Do not read the slides out! Do I just say I looked at how the topic has been defined? Is it completely not okay to actually verbally say,

what I've put. Oh, the OP's panicking. I put direct quotes in my presentations. Don't read them out there. No. That's just part of the visual feast for the census. Yeah. Someone said, I agree with all the don't read your slides advice,

but I don't think that automatically means you have to memorize your talk. Yeah, just read off a script. I think that's fine. Yeah, I mean, I've wondered the context of how long they have to present for, because if they're just talking about stuff that is, you know, like the stuff that would come up in an interview anyway, then I'm sure there's some room to add lib it a bit a bit. you should sort of know what it is that you do for your job and be able to talk about it

without a script one would hope great speeches are often unwritten down let's take I don't want to say that this PowerPoint presentation is the same as the Gettysburg address but the Gettysburg address is written down and that went down in you know history I'm sure Martin Luther King Jr wasn't just ad libid in I have a dream a dream and there's a little clip-art man saying I have a dream it's a little fort bubble and in his dream there's like a white child and a black child holding hands

but those are great speeches and this isn't a speech it's a presentation for a job interview they are different things yeah granted like if someone asked for a speech and you did a presentation with a PowerPoint you've messed up imagine going to like at your wedding it's a wedding and then someone's like

oh I just I need some help with the AV and everyone's like you need some what That was just my slides I went really hard to find the most romantic clip art A speech and a presentation of different things That's what I'm saying It would really take the wind out of that scene

In Independence Day When the President gives a speech to the world If he whipped out the projector beforehand And started messing about with the VGA cables Yeah exactly They're different things Hold on hold on It's going to be our independence day

And that's the thrust of But I just need to get the slides up. Anyway, let's do another thread. Am I being unreasonable, re-creative colleague? Someone I work with has just had a telling off from her manager about the kind of clothes she wears to work. Long hippie-type skirts, flip-flops, tied-eyed t-shirts, huge jumpers with patterns and slogans. She is now complaining that she is a creative person and her clothes reflect her personality and creativity. She doesn't feel comfortable in the type of clothes to rest. of you wear, because she's artistic and needs to express this.

Anna being unreasonable to think she's talking a load of rubbish. There are actually a few genuinely creative people in here who write, act or sell craftwork in their free time. They wear perfectly normal clothes to work, which will reflect the job they do. Can't believe this person works with craftwork. I know, amazing. And craftwork do wear normal clothes. Ties.

We had shirts and ties. All of them. The old age-old binary between the creative people and the normies, the non-creatives. Is that a thing? I mean, we do a podcast, so we're creative people. So it's hard to empathise with this poster, hard to emphasise with this O-P, because I'm so creative. I'm wearing a shirt with a jazzy pattern on it. Creatives.

We're just creative people. We need to be free to wear what we want. Let the normies do the administration. I actually can't think of an outfit that sounds more revolving. than a long hippie skirt, a tie-died t-shirt with an oversized sweater over it with a slogan on. I hope the slogan is something really creative. I hope the slogan is just like... I hope the slogan's just like, just do it. It's just a Nike sweatshop. But like, ironically. Ironically. Yeah. Don't just do it. Am I right? Oh my God. Just create it, yeah. Yeah.

Like, I mean, it sounds like an absolutely hideous outfit. A long hippie skirt, flip-flops, a tie-died t-shirt, a huge jumper. How do you know that she's wearing a tie-died t-shirt if she's got a huge jumper on? No, nonsense. Maybe it's a really woolly jumper, so it's got big gaps in the wool. So you can see. Oh, like a tattie-holy jumper. That's what I imagine this. Essentially hippie, we're talking about wearing. This sounds like the office from Madmen, where there was a definite divide between the creative team and, you know, the admin team. That's because it was an ad agency. and they have dedicated creative staff. Yeah.

I mean, I... I've worked in creative environments. I've worked at museums and arts charity and whatever. And I've never seen anyone dress like this, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. But it doesn't say here there's a dress code that forbids any of this. And so on that basis... Well, let's go through it. Long hippie-type skirts. Fine.

Sounds minging, but I can't see how it would be offensive unless... there is some sort of dress code. Yeah. Flipflops. Whoa. Put your toes away. Let's stop you there. You're in an office environment.

You can't wear flip flops. Just please put your toes away. Unless the office has a pool, don't wear flip flops. It's the rule. It's October. Might be an indoor pool. But it doesn't have it and just don't wear flip flops. Yeah.

No, don't know it's flip flops. Tie-died T-shirts. Yeah. I didn't know you could still get those. You have to tie-dye them yourself now. Or you have to go to a shop that mostly sells bongs. Yeah. Yeah, and then huge jumpers with patterns and slogans.

I like a big old jumper, but I tend to wear the more muted colours to work. I think I'm probably guilty of wearing ridiculous jumpers to work, but I do wear very muted outfits the rest of the way and then throw a big jumper on over it. I think the biggest, most flamboyant one I wear to work, is the one with the ducks on it. But that's because it won me award for best jumper at work. Competition, I did not know I was entering, always running that day.

that does tell you a lot about it a colleague literally just came up to my desk with two barters of dairy milk and said congratulations you've won the ugly sweater contest oh this is like how very often like I say I wear quite normal boring clothes to work but I do like to throw a jazzy jumper on over it and very often I have to explain to people

that it's not a Christmas jumper it's just a jumper yeah oh wow really admire you wear Christmas jumpers all year round. What about this is a Christmas jumper? It's just a red jumper with white stars on it. Oh, that's a nice Christmas jumper. No. You've got one that genuinely has snowflakes on.

That's fairly Christmas, eh? But that's not the one you're talking about. That's a fair oil jumper. Fair oil jumpers are a normal piece of clothing. Yeah. Also, I gave it to the charity shop because I was sick of people telling me it was a Christmas jumper. My duck jumper, yeah, it just has ducks on it,

like you would find flying on your grandmother's wall. Yeah. There's nothing festive about ducks. There's nothing festive about ducks at all. It's not geese or turkeys. Turkeys? A festive bird? Yeah.

Not a duck. Anyway, the point of this is, we wear ridiculous jumpers to work, so maybe we're not. We're creatives. I'm just so creative. We're creative. Oh yeah, have you listened to my podcast? Yeah, I actually have a show that I'm doing. Yeah, we use our podcast from our shows.

Well, we don't because we forget, but... Yeah. Right. Now she's complaining. a creative person, her clothes reflect her personality and creativity, and she doesn't feel comfortable in the type of clothes the rest of you wear. I do think this sounds, if anything, that she's lacking in creativity, because I don't feel comfortable in standard business attire. But I do manage to dress in a way which is in keeping with the environment where I work,

but also I still feel like me and... Yeah, there's a way to do it. I think if she were really that creative, she'd be able to work within the rules to bend them a little. But then again, we don't know that these are rules. If there are no rules, if there's no dress code, and it's just that her outfits are an assault on the census. There's no dress code in place, but I mean, this is a lot, Karen. Yeah, I mean, I really couldn't pay attention to your presentation. I don't know what the slides were about, because you are just a visual piece for the census. Maybe there really are like those hippie skirts with bells on them as well. She's there trying to talk, and there's just

a jangling of bells on her skirt. You're just going to have to read your slides out because I cannot pay attention to anything but you in this room. So maybe that's why. If there's no dress code, like I say, I think it sounds hideous and I think that a truly creative person would be able to work within the brief. That's fairly important to being creative. But I don't know.

I'm not sure that it's okay to tell someone that the way that they dress is wrong if there's no fixed dress code, and it's hard to say without knowing if there is one. Someone said, I've got a degree in design and wouldn't be seen dead in what you're describing. She should have to dress like everyone else at work in professional attire. Professional attire is a little bit open though, isn't it? It's a broad church. It doesn't sound like what she's wearing would fall into any of the normal senses of professional attire,

but until we know if that's something that she's actually supposed to do. So the OP has come back and said there is no dress code, but generally it's understood that you dress neatly and professionally. Am I being unreasonable? Mother-in-law has stolen my shoes. Oh no! This is not a joke. Historically, I've had a very difficult relationship with Satan, my mother-in-law. Goodness.

D.H. Popsies head in once a week on his way home from work, but we otherwise have little to do with the witch. We get on okay when we do see her. Last week, I had to work away, and she did massively help us out by popping in and checking on the puppy. Since then, I cannot find my very, very nice pair of wreaths. wellies that my lovely DM treated me to. Anyway, to cut a long story short, D.H. went in to say hi yesterday evening, and my wellies were there, neat by the back door. He immediately said, are they show jumpers, wellies? Her username has show jumper in it. Are they show jumpers, wellies? She laughs and said, no, of course they're not. D.H. then said, oh, show jumpers lost

hers exactly the same. She then laughed and commented on how absent-minded I am. I am, but that's not the point. With the risk of sounding awful, I do not think she would be familiar with the brand and even if she was, she would not have the money to spend £300 on a pair of wellies. What would you do? All suggestions appreciated. 300 pounds for wellies? I'm sure there were a lot of elements to that, but I'm just stuck on this last point at the end of the post. So Simon is now looking up wellies. So these wellies range from about £58 to £6.60. So I'm going to have to filter on the higher end of the scale.

Have a look for Hunter wellies. Hunter wellies? Yeah, Hunter are like a famous brand of wellie, a good brand of wellie. These are hunter wellies. They're up to £261. So perhaps they were hunter? Yeah, these are 300. Also, I'm sorry, but the risk of sounding awful, I don't think she would be familiar with the brand. alright if you've got somehow some sort of status symbol wellie but also it's such a status symbol that no one will recognise it as such because only the very fanciest people will be familiar with it

I mean you just said the mother-in-law has been in your house presumably around the wellies he could have looked at them how dare she how dare she look at wellies these mothers-in-law well I mean we need to acknowledge that we're not dealing with an ordinary mother-in-law this is the bride of Satan a witch who has pledged herself to Satan's church. But we do also need to acknowledge that they actually get on okay when they do see her. That's the next thing the OP says. We have little to do with the witch. We get on okay when we do see her. Some witches are fine, like Sabrina, the teenage witch.

Yeah. It's fine, pledged to Satan, but, you know, all right. I mean, I don't know why she's calling her mother-in-law Satan, and then she's saying actually we get on fine, and then she's saying she did us a real favour. by looking after the puppy. I imagine Satan would be very charming. The charming fellow,

luring in young women to be witches. Satan could probably have their pick of wellies, right? Satan could have the best wellies. The finest wellies. But cursed. It'd be like a monkey's paw situation where you get the most beautiful wellies, but then, I don't know,

you're so confident in stepping in mud that you step in a bog and sink and die. It does sound like she stole the wellies, which is a hilarious thing to do. evidence points to this. I'm really worth one... It's circumstantial. Yeah, it is circumstantial.

But, I mean, if the wellies went missing... Wellies, it's weird to lose a pair of wellies, isn't it? The more I think about this, the more circumstantial it is. Like, you can't convict on this. I've been listening to a lot of... I don't think she's trying to get her mother-in-law convicted, is she? I've been listening to a lot of All-Killer No-Filler podcast. Shout out to All-Killan-N-Filler.

And you can't get a conviction on this kind of circumstantial stuff. you can't but also it'd be really weird to try and get your mother-in-law convicted over a pair of wellies even if they are 300-pound wellies a murder would have to have been done in the wellies for them to be involved what would you do if I'd lost a gratuitously expensive item of mine and then I saw that your mum had one and then I called the police on her just for all sorts of reasons I just don't think that this is the way the world works make Christmas dinner awkward

exactly so you know yeah um so the thread is just saying steal the wellies back. Then someone has said, steal them back, swapping them out for a cheap opair. But if the wellies were never the mother-in-law is in the first place, even if they swap them for cheap ones, the mother-in-law has now got some free wellies out of this. So crime does pay. Someone said, ask your DH to get them back. Say that you've got terrible verucas and you don't want her to catch them. Also, tell her they were expensive, so you've marked them with security ink and put them on the house insurance. which would make you sound crazy.

Imagine. Like, no, don't say that you've ensured your wellies. And also, don't say that you've been walking around with just your feet directly inside a wellie with those socks rubbing your varookas all over them. Grim, it's worse than flip-flops. Here's a question. What's worse to go to the office in? Flip-flops or wellies?

Flip-flops. Hmm. Because the wellie's too much shoe, but that's fine. Flip-flop is not enough shoe. Yeah. I found a Daily Mirror article based on this post where they've just stolen it and farmed it for clicks. It's accompanied by some hilarious stock photos trying to illustrate the situation. In the stock photo, it looks very much like...

This is the Satan mother-in-law. She's shaking her little finger. And this is the woman plotting away to get the wellies back. They look like the stock photos that you would use for... I mean, the first one looks like a hospital. The second one looks like any crotchety old woman. The third one is like the stock photo that you'd use if you were trying to sell some sort of period pain relief. It's like a woman in a really big sweater, cuddling a pillow.

I don't know that this needed photos. No, no. And then someone else has said, say you've got a terrible fungal nail infection. Why is it that if someone steals your stuff, you have to claim to have all sorts of embarrassing illnesses that wouldn't actually come into contact with the thing in the first place because no one puts on wellies without socks.

Nonsense. Am I being unreasonable for being pissed off that a Facebook friend is selling what are clearly stolen supermarket items on Facebook? Someone on my friend's list has begun selling an array of supermarket items, mainly cleaning products, baby milk, cheese and coffee on her Facebook page.

And it's fairly obvious that she's either stolen these items herself or is selling them on behalf of someone else. There's numerous photos. of the products and messages from others asking her for prices and offering to buy whatever. I'm really disgusted by this and hate thieves. I'm thinking of screenshoting everything and reporting her to the police anonymously though. Is there any point? I can't prove where these items are from after all, but I'm livid that this CF has the nerve to deal with stolen goods and sell them online. What would you do in this situation? I've got a few

things I would like to say about this. Go on. Firstly, you don't know that they're stolen. You just don't. You don't know they're stoning at all. Secondly, who buys cheese on Facebook from someone who is just... I think that was my big question. Who buys things on Facebook? Like, I see people selling things like, you know, boats and Xboxes and large consumer

electronics. Cheese? A coffee. You know what state that's going to be in? It's going to buy it off a strange. When you need cheese, you go and buy cheese, you don't just think, oh, how serendipitous! I was running low on cheese, I've logged onto Facebook. Oh, and someone's selling free to led you? Great.

I want that free to led you. Yeah, and it's quite a strange selection of goods in my mind. Cleaning products, baby milk, cheese and coffee. The strangeness of the selection of goods almost makes me think that it's not stolen. Because it's such a bizarre assortment of stuff. I feel like if you were stealing, you would steal. steal higher value items, perhaps, or you would at least steal things that were sort of consistent logically together?

Hmm, I think you have to confront them. Yeah? What would you say? You say, I've put security tags on all these items, and it's on the home insurance. That only works if the supermarket is your home. That's true. I've security marked all of the cheese. I have a fungal nail infection.

I know you stole that cheese. Why is this person so worked up? I'm really disgusted by this, and I hate thieves. There's no reason to be a knock. You don't know they've done anything, and it's just so weird. What are the police going to do with screenshots? Imagine if you're the police, and someone sends you a screenshot of someone selling cheese on Facebook,

and they're like, I hope you're going to deal with this. Yeah, there's no reason to think this is shoplifted. you just buy a £2 pound block of cheddar and sell it on for £2.50. You've made a tidy profit. Oh, I thought you meant £2 as in like £2 by weight. Oh no, I meant a £2 block of cheddar, like a standard £500.

Because you could buy a big cheese and then you could cut it into smaller pieces and then you could sell that. Yeah, enterprising. Yeah. That's how Ireland Sugar made his fortune. Somebody said, why don't you call crime stopers? I'm called crime stoppers.

This is ridiculous. Don't call it. Is Crime Watch still on the air? Imagine there's some Crime Watch. Carol Vorderman talking about it. It wasn't Carl Morderman, was it? Who was it? Anne Robinson. Oh, I'm glad that you got there, because I could get as far as Anne, but I was like, Anne Widdickham? No, Anne Robinson. I would watch a programme in which Anne Widdickham investigated cheese sold on Facebook.

I would be all over that. Yeah, I'd watch Anne Riddickam Cheese investigators. Hmm. Hmm. Anne, you're listening, get in touch with us. We've got a pitch. Yeah. And then if anyone who could actually make this happen is listening, let's all get together. And anyone who's heard this and wants to steal the pitch because we've said it all, please, please don't.

Apparently these are the most stolen items from supermarkets. What, cheese and baby milk? Apparently so. I mean, baby milk is quite expensive, isn't it? And cleaning products can be quite expensive. Yeah. Cheese doesn't keep very well. You need to store that properly. But then to go on and sell it on, it's...

It's all so odd. So then someone said, oh, is this person a heroin addict? Because repeated shoplifting seems an awful lot of trouble for a normal person. And then someone now has said, Block on all social media and report to crime stoppers. I would not want to associate myself with such low-life scumbags. Jesus. These people need more going on.

Take them off Facebook. It's just block them. Don't be a knack. Imagine if you made cheese out of milkshake rather than milk and they need to have like strawberry cheese. I'm just reading about tiromancy, which is the practice of divination by cheese. Wow!

And I think if you bit into a strawberry-flavored cheese to divine the future, your future's looking pretty bleak because you've just eaten a strawberry cheese. Your future may contain sick. Yeah. One method of tiromancy is to write possible answers to a question

on pieces of cheese and place them in a cage along with a hungry mouse. whichever piece the mouth ain't first will be the answer to your probing life question this is also a form of myromancy which is donation by mice I think it's worth trying should I report this person to the police

and you write it on a bit of cheddar and a bit of guda stick a mouse in there I really want to do some sort of performance where my stage name is Tyra Mansi and it's just me using cheese to divine the future yeah yeah note to self at this point I'm just using this podcast to keep my notes to myself I hope that's okay

note to self Tyra Manci I mean everyone on this thread is bafflingly absorbed with it and they're all very quick to brand this person's scum and a low life and a thief and they're saying oh you don't want to be an accessory so you have to unfriend her from Facebook I don't think you're an accessory to a crime just because you're friends

with someone on Facebook. Yeah, that's not how that works. It's a big leap, isn't it? Not how that works. I was Facebook friends with someone who's convicted of murder. I can't believe you're an accessory to murder site. No, I'm an accessory to murder. Well, I'm going to prison, so we better wrap this up.

Okay, one more speed round, and then we'll call it a day. Am I being unreasonable to retire at 42? No, you go for it, man. 42's a great age. Douglas Adams. Cool. Am I being unreasonable to ask what to do now that I've found vodka in my 16-year-old's room? Drink it. Party. Party.

Am I being unreasonable to have the rage over nothing, really? If only everybody else on this hell site could accept that they have the rage but probably over nothing, rather than directing it towards cheese on Facebook or their mother-in-law. Am I being unreasonable to ask whether? That's it? That's it. Yes. Are we being unreasonable to be livid how dolphins are portrayed compared to how they are?

Livid. Livid. Livid. Are they being unreasonable? No. No, it's a conspiracy to protect the dolphins. Good. Okay, I think that's all we've got time for.

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