You Are Being Unreasonable - 031 - In which Subway sandwich artists do their art for the exposure

Episode Date: October 25, 2018

"Daddy has no life, does he, Mummy?" It's a spooktacular Hallowe'en You Are Being Unreasonable in which the scariest thing is bigotry. This week, we spectacularly redecorate our rental property with extravagant murals and gold bathroom fittings, we go caravaning with husbands who have no interior lives, we steal chicken nuggets and chips but it's from a chain so it's anti-capitalist praxis, and we talk about one of the canonically Great Female Acting Roles and the influence of Matilda on clever little girls.

Hello, driving on drugs feels better when their prescription. All I know, the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, right now. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, Hello.

It's a spooktacular Halloween, you are being unreasonable. It is. It's very spooky in here, spider webs. The spookiest thing is that we're still making this podcast, even though mum's that it gets worse and worse and worse. The real spook is transphobia. No, it's not very spooky here. No, it's not.

Take behind the scenes. Part of the kimono, as the mackleroy brothers would say, we just, it's Sunday afternoon. We've got tea. It's the 21st of October at the time of recording. There aren't any Halloween threads up at the moment. 10 spooky days. Ooh.

Spooky. No, welcome to you are being unreasonable, a podcast about people being unreasonable on mumsnet.com. It's not Halloween at the moment, but by the time you're listening, it will still not be Halloween. Let's begin. Am I being unreasonable to think my phone settings

are my own business? Depends if it's like really loud, on the bus, then no. Am I being unreasonable, lazy, ungrateful? I don't understand. Yes, it sounds like you're lazy and ungrateful. Am I being unreasonable to reuse gift bags? No, everyone does that, surely.

Am I being unreasonable? Christmas budget. Christmas budgies. Christmas budgies. Yeah, a budgey is for life, not for Christmas. Am I being unreasonable to be saddened by some posters on here? No, no. Because they're bigots.

Yeah. Often. We don't do the bigoted threads, but they're there. Oh, they're everywhere. It's so hard to find non-bigoted threads. That's why we had to move to fortnightly. Every two weeks, there are usually about four threads where someone doesn't say something hateful in the O.P.

Here they are. We pick them out of the dirt, like diamonds from the roof. Exactly. Am I being unreasonable? Would you take DH to an all-girls and children caravanning? Or was I being unreasonable? A few girls from uni, mature students, two of us are married and two are single. We get on really well. We've been on day trips and all the kids seem to get along.

So we decided on half term week away caravanning for the girls and children. Trouble is my DH has no life without me. And kids and I feel terribly awful to leave him home for a week without the kids. It feels selfish really. I've never done anything like this before and been married for 13 years. I told him it's a girl's trip But he can come if he wants to Hoping he would say no

I will stay home if it's a girl's trip He said he will come Trip is tomorrow I'm torn as I like the girl's company I like he's too What to do Tough I mean it sounds like Without her and the kids around

He just sits in a chair Staring at the wall alone How has she let it come to this How has he let it come to this There are so many I have a lot of feelings about this thread If you got any feelings you would like to begin with. Just imagining him, sitting alone, doing nothing, not a sound, not a peep about her and the

kids around, barely moving, blinking the minimal amount. Silently shuffling to bed each night and shuffling back to his chair in the morning. Breathing in and out. Just waiting, waiting for them to come back and give his life meaning. I mean, if the kids recognise this as well, she says, I feel terribly awful to leave him alone. I know, the way she phrases it, life without me and the kids and I feel terribly awful to leave him alone for a week without the kids. It feels like the kids recognise this as well. Like they all get together and they're like, Daddy has no life, does he, money? And she's like, no, Daddy is a very lonely man. He needs us. He has no life without me. Lately when you've not been around, I started a new course of study

recently, so it's been fairly busy and it's been busy at work. So lately when you've not been around, I've just been watching Hannibal, non-stop, the TV series, not the film. Just the film, over and over and over again. Oh, do you like Florence? No, the TV series. So, like, when you're not in, I just sit in a chair and stare at Hannibal. So I think if you went away camping for the weekend, you'd come back to my rocking in a corner.

Yeah. Talking vaguely about murder aesthetics. Okay, this brings me on, actually, to my next point, which is. who's to say he wouldn't quite enjoy just sitting alone? Like, if he doesn't... If he hasn't proactively gone about finding things to do when she's not around, maybe he's just happy being indoors,

spending time with his family, maybe he doesn't really care about other stuff. And actually, a little week of sitting alone might be exactly what he wants. And now he feels somehow obligated to go on this weird trip where... He said he wanted to go, though, didn't he? He said he would go.

Yeah, he said he would go. But she said, oh, do you want to come on this trip? it's a girl's trip so he's probably already confused like why are you telling me look do you want to come on this trip I know you have no life without me and the girls do you want to come and I don't mean to be rude but it sounds terrible really absolutely terrible so it's two women and their kids and then two additional women and they're all going caravanning together and they all go to uni together so they'll have loads of uni things to talk about and the kids will be doing kid stuff and he'll just be staring at the wall, but in a caravan.

Feeling like he's making people uncomfortable. Whereas at home, he knows he's not making people uncomfortable. Yeah. I think maybe the best, funniest scenario is that he actually does do a lot. He's just got a full life outside of her, but she's totally oblivious to it. And so it assumes he has no interior life. I mean, anyone who describes her friends, who are mature students, so. you know they're definitely adults as a few girls from uni and who thinks that a caravanning holiday

with some other people's kids and some single women and it's going to be a girl's trip but also a kid's trip does sound a little bit self-absorbed and a little bit boring yeah i hope the caravan is the size of that one in that episode of father ted oh my god that's that would be ideal really wouldn't it speaking of transphobes Anyway Should we see what the thread has to say? Yes You were wrong to ask

He was wrong to say yes But you can't really take it back now, can you? Have you checked it's okay with your other friends? Well that's an actor too I thought of that when you were reading out the question Like do the other friends Want this dullard Sitting there

Staring at the walls While they're around It's like that other episode of Father Ted Where that really dull man comes to stay For a really long time No, I'm all right, thanks father. Someone said, oh, you shouldn't have asked him, the other girls will be cross. It's also infantile, like they're not girls, they're women,

and you only use the word cross if you're trying not to tell a child that they're fucking infuriating. Cross is something that only mummies and teachers get. Very cross. Everyone else gets annoyed or angry. Fucked off. Yeah. Yeah. You imagine a cross little boy?

Yeah. Like I imagine that royal baby. What's his name? Prince George. Yeah. I imagine he gets very cross. Exactly. It's all very, very childish.

Someone has just said, you can't take him. He has agency. You can't take him. Sounds like she's going to be bundling him along the same way she is with a kid. Like, get your shoes on, come on. Just pop him in the boot next to the sleeping bags. Someone said, surely he'll coat for a, week, you can watch films, he can go to the shop, he can read a book, he can work, whatever.

If it was organised as a mums and kids week away, I don't think it's okay to take him. But it's not a mums and kids weekend away, because it sounds like only the O.P. And one other person is a mum with kids. And the other two are single women who, for reasons unknown, are voluntarily going to a caravan with a bunch of kids that they aren't related to. I'm just saying, I don't want to go on holiday with some random children, some people that I do a course with and a dullard husband. I think that no one is coming across

as having any imagination or being very exciting here. Yeah, maybe. Someone said this is bonkers, why did you invite him? She invited him because he has no life without her. Poor man. Am I being unreasonable? What's I unreasonable to redecorate?

We have been in our rental property for almost three years. However, we'll be moving out in January or February. We've redecorated the rental, and I'm just hoping the landlord is going to be okay with it. For context, the landlord bought the property as it was and made no improvements himself when he purchased it. The dining room wall was bright green. There were gaps between the laminate and the skirting board in the hallway.

Bathroom taps were rubbish and water didn't come out very well. The toilet flusher didn't work properly. It's not his home that he rents. He has numerous properties he rents out and it's his full-time job. Everything we've done to the property, in my opinion, has improved it. and everything has been done neutral. We put in a brand new bathroom and flooring, painting in the rest of the house, etc.

Do you think this will be a problem? He seems like a reasonable guy. I think redecorating a property that you do not own is only a problem if you redecorate it with a very specific theme. And I'm thinking like, I don't know, an ode to the Food Network. So one entire wall is a mural of Guy Fieri next to the pioneer woman, next to Charles Stiles from Mystery Diners because I think that might be a bit too specific

to re-let that place. I feel like you've zoned in on something very different to the one line of this post that I think is the really classic mum's-net madness bit. Please. We have put in a brand new bathroom. They rent this place. Why on earth have they bought this man a bathroom?

That's too much. That's crazy! I think you make minor improvements to a flat that you rent. You just, you know, you make minor improvements to make it livable. Yeah, we've put in some picture hooks, we've bought some furniture of our own, you know. Yeah, we've been in this place for about four years, and there's been a light bulb that has never worked in the hallway. And I sort of just assumed it was broken until literally yesterday, when I decided to buy a new light bulb for it just to see.

And it turns out, yeah, the bulb had just gone. So we've made a minor improvement there. I'll be honest, though, it is quite garish. After four years of darkness, it confused me. It hurt my eyes You make it sound like we've been living in the Batcave for four years But no, it's not the Batcate We've made improvements on the scale of

Changing the Lights Yeah She put in a new bathroom I'm sorry That's some crazy nonsense That's madness How much does a new bathroom cost Why on earth did you put in a new bathroom

In a place that you do not own Better get your deposit back Imagine if he takes the deposit Because they tore out the bathroom And he charges them for the old bathroom Those were grandmother's taps. She gave me those taps. That was my great Uncle Albert's toilet. Those taps came out of Nazi Germany.

This is absolute madness. The taps were made of Nazi gold. It doesn't sound like they've ever mentioned to the landlord that they're doing this. Yeah, I think repainting a wall is fine. That's about the limit. Yeah. Yeah. And I see this, this isn't the first time I've seen this on Mum's Day. I think this is why I really zone. in on this as like, what are you thinking? I see so many where people live in private rented property

and then they make these grand improvements and then they lose their deposits. I saw one. They were like, well, we replaced all of the old windows with double glazing. We've lost our deposit because they were listed sash windows. What should we do? It's like, why did you pay to double glaze someone else's house? Yeah. That's crazy. I'm sorry you lost your deposit, but you also lost your mind when you paid to double glaze someone else's house. The landlord's taken our deposit because of our mural of Guy Fierre eating a burger. Yeah, I mean that. You love that mule.

That's like the landlord took your deposit because you did something stupid. Whatever. Stupid but beautiful. Yeah, but like the landlord took our deposit because we fundamentally tried to improve his home for no real benefit to ourselves. And we never mentioned it. And rather than just going to the landlord and saying, I'm sorry, but this place isn't up to scratch because you make some improvement.

like just funding it yourselves. Yeah, you don't own that property. And you don't owe your landlord anything. Don't improve it. Leave it in a worse state than you found it. He'll steal your deposit anyway. All landlords are bastards. Yeah.

If I were them, I would take this bathroom with them to their next place. Take the taps. Rip out the taps. Yes, exactly. Take the taps, take the Garfieri mural. Run with it. Should we see what the thread says? Please.

Someone has said that they're sure the landlord will be secretly to delighted, but to their faces, he may claim that they've changed things they weren't supposed to and keep the deposit. Yep. My landlord has no life without me. Should I take him and camping with me? Someone said, like, why have you done this? They're like, oh, well, we thought we'd be here for a very long time, but actually we won't now. They've said, why did you think that this would be the case?

We only had a six-month initial contract, and from there, it's just rolled on. Yeah, that's just how contracts work. Yeah, and also, if it's just on a rolling contract, they only need to give you two months notice to move out. It's entirely plausible that two months is the time it takes you to book in the work to be done to replace the bathroom. A couple of delays. You've moved out and then someone turns up to fit the bathroom you paid for. You don't even get the benefits. It's crazy nonsense.

The O.P. has come back and said, surely we done home a favour. Sorry, I've done it now turned into Eliza Doolittle and it's all fall apart. Well, we've done home a favour. We've done out of favour, ain't we? Near bathroom? It's turning Australia and now. just blimey. Someone said,

to your landlord not inspected the property since it's installed surely he would have noticed. Well, clearly not. Yeah, I don't think it's a given that a landlord would

inspect the property. Oh, people on mums there they're all like, me and my D.H have a portfolio of properties and we like to inspect them quarterly. It's just good practice.

It's like, if I had a landlord that came around quarterly I'd be moving because that is invasive and you should be allowed to have some privacy in your home

without someone turning up every three months to wake up their judgey pants and be all mumslet in your face. Yeah. but people on mums that do seem to think that if you're a povo living in a rented property then someone should be checking that you're not living in squalor at least every three months

checking that you've not fitted a new bathroom and drawn guy fiatia on the walls yeah i guess in this case maybe they think that the landlord should check that they were still living in squalor this isn't squalid get out shoo i'm keeping your deposit they are living in squalor apart from the bathroom which is a beautiful kind of tiled gold-plated jacuzzi tub yeah I know. I think everyone here is being unreasonable. Am I being unreasonable? Would you say something if a restaurant undercharged you? Went out for a meal with D.H. and mutual friend. The bill came and they hadn't charged us for my meal. I thought, chiching! And said to keep stum. I'm sure that should be schum.

And said to keep stum. But friend ignored me and told the waitress. I was really miffed and a bit pissed off with my friend. but you have told them, or kept quiet. It was a chain, not a family run place, if that makes a difference. My brain thought, cha-ching! It's just thinking in emojis. Thinking in that little cash emoji, dollar signs for ours. Oh, and dollar sign on its tongue, for no reason.

Oh, dollar sign on the tongue, yeah, that's a weird one. Yeah. Imagine getting a tattoo or a dollar sign on your tongue. Oh, why would you get a tattoo on your tongue? That's a muscle. That's proper wolf of Wall Street stuff. Your tongue is muscle, isn't it? I believe so.

I don't think you should get a tattoo directly onto a muscle. You wouldn't get a tattoo directly onto your heart, would you? Well, no, that's different. Well then. I've got your name tattooed in my heart. No, you haven't. It's a metaphor for love. Right, so they hadn't charged for her meal.

Fine. Nugs. I'd say she got a plate of nuggets and chips. Okay. My friend got foie gras. What chain have they gone? I guess did she order from the kids' menu? Yeah.

Maybe kids ate free. Maybe they were never supposed to charge for the meal because kids ate free and her nugs and chicks came as a complimentary gift when the other people order foie gras and veal. So yeah, the bill comes and it misses out the £2.90 for the nugs and chips. Yeah. Would I say something? Yeah.

Yes. As would I? Because, and I'll tell you for why, before you're ever five, go on it affects the percentage of the tip and the tip goes to the server so even if it is a chain run place similarly

if it has gone through the kitchen but it's not gone through the till it won't add up and there's every chance that the server will somewhere along the line get pulled up on that and either have to pay the difference themselves or they'll just take all of this out of tips

or someone will get fired you have no idea what's going to go on there You can say it's a chain, but the people who... This is what I hate, people like, chains are so faceless. I'm like, but the humans who work at chains are still humans. You might not see the manager. They might not live on your road. Immediately after...

But they are still people. Yeah, immediately after this happens, the manager says, Janie, can I have a word with you? Pulls you into a room and, oh no. Hi, I'm Charles Stiles, and we're a company called Mystery Dinus. We saw you not charge them for those nugs and chips.

We assume you took it. You're fired. Oh no. Yeah. It was a sting. It was a mystery diner sting. Oh. I'm Charles Stiles.

I'd rather it was Charles Stiles than Willie Dagle from that one that's like mystery diners, but shoutier. Yeah. Yeah. That one's too shouty. I like Charles Stiles. He's very understated. He's just like, you did a bad thing. These are glorious Food Network shows that are quite late about setting up stings to catch naughty staff in restaurants.

Yeah. Charles Stiles fires you because he thinks you're up to something. entering stuff on the point-of-sale system deliberately. Yeah. And in fact, you just forgot, because nugs and chips are only small. Yeah. Or maybe, you know, you were distracted thinking, God, I wonder why that woman is ordering nugs and chips

when her friends are having this fancy foie gras. And her husband hasn't said a word. It's like he has no interior life. He didn't even order food. Just staring at the wall. Like a robot, but from like an old film, or anyone could even think that in a fictional world robots might function as people.

My other point I was going to make about this was she explicitly says they hadn't charged for her meal and then she said, oh, you know, keep quiet. But the friend ignored her and told the waitress, do you think this one might be a sort of cheeky, entitled, selfish friend who's like, well, they didn't charge for my meal so you should all pay for your own meals and I'm splitting the bill.

Oh, mine isn't on there? Yeah, we'll all pay for her own. That's why she asked. nugs and chips at the kids menu because it's only two pound out of it yeah tight bod and then she would have expected the friend to still pay the full rate for whatever she had had i get the impression that might be it yeah yeah and i no it really annoys me this whole like oh if it's a chain it doesn't count because the people working at chains are still people and it's a franchise that goes entirely to the franchise owner yeah and it's really hard to know what's a chain and what's

a franchise yeah like i know that subway are franchises yeah i think nando's might be sent her franchises. Nando's Chicken Land Limited. Yes. Yeah. Maybe not. I don't know. Anyway, by the bye.

Yeah, so no, she absolutely should say something. It's rude. It's going to get the waitstaff in trouble. She was probably trying to con a free night out and then make her friend still pay. It's weird that the DH doesn't seem to say or do anything, you're right. Is it all the same DH? Yeah. D.H wasn't even supposed to be there.

It was supposed to be a girl's dinner. I'd swore you, but how many is her? I said, do you want to come? It's a girl's dinner, and he said, I will come. And now I don't know what to do. And the dinner is happening now, and my food isn't even on... Oh, no. When I'm out, he just sits there, motionless, watching Hannibal.

Without reactions. He's not disgusted at it. He's not pleased by it. I would always say something if I noticed, even if it's a big chain where they might not miss the money, I imagine that the waiter or waitress could get in trouble. Someone said, your attitude is really unpleasant. Man, they've not money and mom's that long.

Yeah. Not grizzled veterans like us. The only time I wouldn't bring it up is if it's a small amount, like a pound or two. For that, I wouldn't go over the menu and bill trying to figure out what I've been undercharged for. I would just tip slash tip extra instead. You should always tip. If it's a sit-down meal, you should always tip. I have friends who don't tip at sit-down meals, so I will not go for sit-down meals with them anymore.

Like, oh, that's lovely, that's a nice idea. Perhaps we could have a picnic or go to the pub. I am not watching you refuse to tip ever again. So I think that this person who's trying to be all haughty about it is like, well, maybe, but blah, blah, blah. You just implied you don't always tip, so you're just as bad as the OP. What meal are they getting for a pound or two? A flatbread from McDonald's. You can get some hash browns at Subway for 99P.

Yes. I think they then try to charge you extra if you want me sauce. Fulbs economy. You have a different kind of restaurant to the one I was envisioning, though. Yes, that's true. Plus they're artists. They should be charged for their work. Yeah.

Don't think it, yeah, you should pay for art. Yeah, they're not doing this for exposure at some way. I will eat your sandwich and then I will tweet about it. I'm an influencer. You need to make me a sandwich. It'll be really good for your brand. Someone has said, it's called integrity. Like, one person did something a little bit shady and tried to get out of paying for a thing they weren't charged for.

And then everyone else is somehow coming across worse. than them at this point. Yes. I think you can tell people to charge, you can tell people that they shouldn't skip out on the bill without moralising so much. Yeah, it's called integrity. It's called honesty, actually. Maybe you should look it up. Someone said, of course I wouldn't. I doubt anyone in the real world would either. Oh, okay. Just because you're an unpleasant person, don't mean everyone is. Yeah. Well, no, I mean, personally, I think that it is unreasonable to try and con a free meal out of a restaurant, of it is a chain. Even if it is nugs and chips. I think making a big song and dance about a place being a chain is a thing that people do

to try and justify their bad behaviour anyway. Yeah, it's not anti-capitalist praxis to steal a meal. Also, I don't think... And that's not bringing on the socialist revolution. I don't think that the Am I Being unreasonable boards are frequented by people who are trying to bring on a revolution. Whoa, whoa, this isn't a Marxist board? No.

I thought this was MarxNet. Mumsnet. What? Mums net? Not saying that mums can't be Marxists, just that the mums that are Marxists are unlikely to be posting about trying to steal a meal from a chain restaurant. No, no, no, I've got my copy of Das Kapital down and word one, steal from restaurants. Last thread. Am I being unreasonable to boycott Matilda the musical on principle because it gives one of the few great female acting roles to a man. There are so few great female characters as it is, and there especially aren't many that aren't the pretty young thing token love interest role.

It's really annoyed me. Ah yes, the great roles for women. Lady Macbeth. Lady Macbeth, Aphelia, Juliet, Miss Trunchball. Classics. Classic Miss Trunchball. But anyway, yeah, so they're talking about Miss Trunchable, Yeah, there's all about Miss Trunchball.

The Matilda musical, book by Tim Minchin, is played by a man. Yes. Yes. So there are two arguments here. One, which I can see, which they've said themselves, is it is unusual for there to be good roles that aren't the sort of pretty young woman run. Sure. Like, those roles are fewer and further between. Yeah.

And those roles don't tend to be leading roles. Miss Trunchball is not a leading role. So, whatever. No, Miss Trunstable is a supporting character because the leading role is unsurprisingly. A little girl. A little girl called Matilda. Yeah.

The other argument, if you've seen Matilda, is that it's a musical, but it has something of the pantomime tradition to it. Yeah. And on that basis, I think it seems entirely reasonable that you would cast Miss Trunchball as the villain as a man playing a woman.

Yeah, like a pantomime game. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I have to declare an interest in this because my brother worked on Matilda.

Your brother is not the casting director for Matilda. That would make this a bit of a tricky one. My brother plays Miss Trunchball. I mean, yeah, that would be... Imagine if I just done all of this to have a dig at your brother for playing Miss Trunchball, but no. It's one of the few great roles given to my brother. just to clarify sylvan's brother does not play miss trunchball and also does not play matilda so it's all fine but the other thing is you know trying to make out this is this big feminist point

matilda as a character is an amazing aspirational character for little girls as a little dark-haired no it all child the film matilda and the book matilda were very special to me and matilda is a great character as a feminist icon for small girls. So to then say, well, I'm boycotting it on the basis that a man plays Miss Trunchball, who's supposed to be terrible anyway, seems counterintuitive. If anything, Miss Trunchball is trash, and all men are trash, and therefore, I think it all fits together nicely. It makes sense for Trash to play Trash. Yeah, I think that this is an attack on the patriarchy, and should be supported. Those are my thoughts. I've got a lot of them. Did you see those, it was Matilda's, what, 30th anniversary? So they did reissued covers.

They reissued the book where, imagining Matilda's job as she got older. Oh, yeah. But it was all kind of proper lean-in Cheryl Sandberg feminism, where she'd got jobs, like, high up in corporate things. It's just, I don't think that's what Matilda would do. I think Matilda would aspire to be like Miss Honey. Yeah, that was exactly what Matilda wanted, wouldn't it? Yeah.

Like a little cottage on her own. Yeah, and like teaching and nurturing young minds and being the wrong model that she lacked for so many years. Yeah, just hanging around. Do do do do do do do. Exactly. Eating all the chocolates. Eating all the cake?

Yeah. No, that was bog chocolate. Pam Ferris played Mr.unchbull in the movie, in the Danny DeVito movie. The movie is a completely different adaptation. I think there are people, will come to what the thread has to say. There are people on the thread who are angry about it being a man on the stage when it was a woman in the film,

but they are two completely separate adaptations that come from the same original source material but are independent pieces of art in different formats, with different writers, the different audiences to an extent. So it's just ridiculous. Yeah. It's like when people say that they prefer the originals of Hallelujah,

they're like, yeah, I like the Jeff Buckley original. Like, no. No. No, the original is always going to be the Leonard Cohen one. That's how an original works. You can't just pick the one that came before the most recent one that you like best and say it's the best original. I'm on the Wikipedia page for Miss Trungeball

and it only lists three actors to have played the character. Two from the musical and one from the film. So I think it's a real stretch to call it one of the great roles for women. This also, yeah, thank you. Pointing that out, highlights something. as I was saying it is a discreet adaptation with no bearing on the book or the film

if it's been written with the intention of being written for a man it definitely isn't one of the great roles is it like one of the great rules you can't say that something that was written with the intention of it being for a man is one of the great roles for women oh it's just nonsense nonsense it's like when you see Dick Whittington and that's very often a woman playing Dick Whittington because of pantomime. What was that role on that West End show? Was it Annie?

Yes. What's the name? There've been a couple of people playing Miss Hannigan. Yeah. So Sue Pollard played Miss Hannigan and Mira Sayal played Miss Hannigan and then they cast a man to play Miss Hannigan. And that is a different kettle of fish altogether. Oh, it was what's the name first? Miranda.

Okay, yeah. Yeah. But various other middle-aged women have played Miss Hannigan. Yeah, and then this Craig dude took over as Miss Hannigan. and people were like, that's taken away a role for a woman. Yeah, and that is... Because Miranda played it first. And that is taken away, wait.

Yeah. Which is why they went back to, like, Mir Sial. Yeah. But if a role has only ever been written for and played by a man, I also think maybe this person... I mean, they go on to bang on about when they went to drama school. If they've been to drama school, surely they know that there are many great women characters out there.

Like, oh, who would you really like to play one day? like, oh, Blanche Dubois. Miss Trunchball! Miss Trunchball in the Tim Minchin musical, Matilda. Oh, okay. I mean, we all have our thing. Miss Trunchball is very unreasonable. She is highly unreasonable.

Makes that boy eat that cake. Yeah. Matilda, very reasonable. Very reasonable young woman. She was. Should we do one more speed round? Then we'll call it a day. Yeah, it was speed.

Speed, speed. And we're being unreasonable to be irritated by wanky and pretentious restaurant terminology. Oh, yes, but that's not a reason not to pay your bill Am I being unreasonable to get rid of a gift? No, go for it, throw it out the window. Am I being unreasonable to ask you to share your best joke? Put me on the spot.

Why the long face? Because you're a horse. Am I being unreasonable? Ladies, possibly gay or straight, am I being unreasonable to ask this woman out? No, go for it. Don't have to ask our permission. And am I being unreasonable?

Do you think that am I being unreasonable? It's just trivia. Wow. It really puts it all in perspective. What would it appear if it wasn't just trivia? Like, do I think there should be world leaders on here? Like, am I being unreasonable to order drone strikes? I'm really glad it's just people fretting about Matilda and tea towels and in-laws and parking.

Yeah, it's probably best. that this forum is not used for world affairs. Am I being unreasonable to be suspicious of Russia? Well, I don't know, I feel like that one about getting Alexa turned into, am I being unreasonable to be suspicious of Russia? Ah, should we call it a day? We'd call it a day. Just wanted to say a congratulations to Helze's dad.

Hello! Who runs... CCJ coffee, cocktails, jokes. Which is a sort of comedy afternoon in London. He recently raised 1,900 pounds for... He passed 2,000 now, I think. 2,000 pounds. He recently raised over £2,000 from McMill and cancer support.

And that's fantastic, yeah. So, well done, Jack. And well done, everyone who supported that and got involved. Get yourself down to CCJ some time when it's next running. Next on 3rd November. I believe they have a Facebook group. They do. Yeah, fantastic.

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