You Are Being Unreasonable - 034 - In which Christmas jumpers are a hate-crime
Episode Date: December 6, 2018"The only thing that stops him drinking is people having their need for firewood sated." We'll be honest: this one got away from us. Every podcast has a Lost Scooby-Doo Episode and this is ours. This... week, is it unreasonable to buy firewood cash-in-hand from Beer-Money Billy? How can we appoint a specialist barber law solicitor if the apocalypse happens while we're at the barbers? Is it unreasonable of Scrappy-Doo to sell his family's ancient pieces of furniture? Should Christmas jumpers be banned in favour of Winterval jumpers? And is it unreasonable to expose young children to that weird CG Scooby-Doo from the live-action Scooby-Doo film?
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Hello, driving on drugs feels better when they're prescription.
All I know, the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful.
I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now,
except for maybe when I think about I felt that day,
when I felt the way that I do right now, right now.
I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now,
except for maybe when I think about I felt that day when I just...
Hello.
Hello.
A podcast about people being unreasonable on mumsnet.com.
How are people being unreasonable in the run up to Christmas?
A lot of people really don't seem to know their own children
and are asking if they're being unreasonable to ask for advice about what to put in stockings.
It's tough, but, you know, kids are dumb.
Kids are easier.
I mean, if you're not sure what to buy your own kid,
why would a group of randoms on the internet have any more insight?
Maybe the distance gives you some kind of knowledge.
Can't see the forest for the trees with your own kids.
has this got so many interests
CBBs
that's one
there's also
interestingly
a whole discussion board
called Christmas
to move a lot of the Christmas
stuff off of
Am I being unreasonable
because all these grinches complained
Oh good
Yeah
Keeps Am I being a reasonable
Nice and clear and clean
For the unreasonableness
That we so crave
Yeah you know
People who are worried about parking
Or other people calling in sick for work
you know, the standard am I being unreasonable fair?
Mum's net's good at siphoning off the turf
into the feminism board
and the Christmas grinches into the Christmas board,
but what we really need are the most unreasonable people,
the choice cuts, the funny cuts, if you will,
to go to their own might be an unreasonable board,
so you wouldn't even have to sift through the chaff.
What we need is, if I could filter by how many people have responded,
yaboo, and the ones that have got the most
yaboo responses came up to the top
on that filter. Yeah, they'll be the funniest.
Yeah. That's what they don't
understand on one's depth, that we need
funny stories. We need terrible
humans. Yeah.
We can't come up with the humour.
We're not funny. We need
other people to be funny for us.
We do. Shall we start with a speed round?
Let's go. Am I being
unreasonable to think there must be a way
to earn 20K a year from home?
Is this an advert
in the side of the browser that you read?
No, no. Am I being unreasonable?
All men are the same with alcohol and have no control.
Hashtag not all men.
Am I being unreasonable to be slightly unconvinced about
D-siss's mental health issues?
Oof, that's a fawny issue. I'm not going to touch that one.
Am I being unreasonable? I am not the P-Trol.
We think they'd off protest too much.
Sure. Does that mean that if the board respond with you are being unreasonable,
they have spoken and she is the pea troll.
Is this related to the poo troll?
I mean, I've never heard of the pea troll.
I've been busy.
So perhaps in the last few days a pea troll has crept up.
And last one for this speed round,
Am I being unreasonable to banish cat from the house?
No.
Good.
Got a noisy boy sitting on me right now.
We have, but we're not going to banish him, are we?
Am I being unreasonable?
DH is evading tax by buying firewood cash in hand.
we've switched firewood suppliers and the new one is half the cost
it's very much a guy just doing it for beer money no website no invoice no company just cash in
hand am i being unreasonable to be concerned about this this really shows how much of a terrible
city person i am but i read this and i was like it never occurred to me that your usual
firewood supplier would have a company a website and invoicing i feel like firewood's
something that you always just see a sign on the side of the right
road, buy some firewood and it's just a shifty looking bloke. I genuinely thought that the only
way to buy firewood was cash in hand from some shifty bloke who's doing it for beer money.
If you're buying firewood from this dodgy man and the firewood is obviously like chunks of door,
it's obviously just chunks of someone's door, then you might have a problem.
Especially if every door is clearly a front door and he's just going around hacking into people's
front doors and there's a row of houses somewhere just exposed to the world.
John, John, this wood's got a number 12 on it.
This one's got a letterbox in it.
And they'd all be painted as well, so when you burnt them, they'd be giving off all these
toxic fumes.
If that's going on.
Where's he getting this firewood off the back of a truck?
All these things had never occurred to me, but I suppose if you are selling firewood,
you should have your own source of wood.
Yes, you should have your own, I don't know.
You didn't be going to local parks and cutting down trees?
I think it's one thing to say, oh, I don't know about the firewood guy, but D.H is invading tax.
Yeah, well, like VAT?
I don't know, but like this is Momsnet clickbait.
This is pure clickbait.
The firewood man is evading tax.
Yeah.
D.H is evading VAT, I guess, but that's, what's the VAT on wood?
Is there a V&T on wood?
I don't know.
Is it an essential?
I don't know.
It is if you're on your own in the middle of nowhere and you need a fire.
I need to know now if it counts as an essential,
because the things that do and don't count as essentials are beyond me.
Like, tiramisu, essential.
Tampons, not essential.
There is VAT on wood fuel pellets.
Well, that's not quite the same thing.
But what about bits of door from a shifty man?
I don't think so.
One of the shiftymen.
I also enjoy the sort of weird judgment of he's doing it for beer money.
Like, so is it his side hustle or?
Or, what?
Is it someone, like, is it like an 18-year-old lad who's just doing his A-levels?
And he lives at his parents' house.
He doesn't really need a job, just needs a bit of beer money for the weekends.
But I mean, if you go to Canary Warloff on a Friday evening,
and you see a load of bankers in the Café Rouge afterwards buying beers,
I don't think that their jobs, they're high-paying, banking city jobs out from peer money,
even though they are spending their money on beer.
I can't tell if you're saying that me or the OP believes that.
No one's made this claim that bankers are doing it for beer money.
But the idea that every job is, if you want to get to it, every job is for beer money.
If you don't drink, you don't drink.
I'll have a job.
Oh, someone said people moan about benefit fraud.
Tax evasion is the same thing.
It's wrong.
But this isn't tax evasion.
No, it's not benefit fraud either.
It's just a man buying firewood from some bloke.
So the AP has come back.
The guy says it's cash only, as he is not VAT registered, and that's what's concerned me.
Surely legally, DH is in the wrong, as he knows the guy is not paying VAT.
How did you end up in a situation where, while you were buying some firewood, you found out about the guy's VAT status?
Why did he volunteer that over?
Why wasn't he like, I'm a small business and there are fees for card transactions?
Also, presumably, I'm just selling this outside somewhere, and those little portable card readers aren't overly reliable.
Because he was six to the wind, he's beer money, drinking down his beer.
Do you think he's just in the pub and every time he hits the end of a pipe, he's there like,
you want some firewood?
Firewood.
I got firewood.
The only thing that stops him drinking is people having their need for firewood stated.
You get some puff his stool, hand you the stool, and sells it to you for firewood.
He needs to go to one of those really rustic pubs that's got a wood-burning fire.
And, like, a wood-burning pizza oven.
And just sit next to the fire and give the wood that the pub has bought to you.
No, I was more thinking then he could just trade directly with the pub,
but the husband wouldn't need to get involved as this intermediary.
It could just be like, I'll give you some wood if you give me some beer.
He's got to think about upscaling.
He really does.
He can't just be selling to individual customers.
You need to go for retail customers.
That's where the money is.
Pubs, saunas, you know.
Hmm.
The wood is good quality and seasoned well.
It is, however, a mix of hard and soft,
so maybe more like 35 to 40% discount.
He's been supplying the local town for over 20 years.
Well known, so no quality issues.
So for 20 years, he's been making beer money by selling wood.
Apparently, if the turnover of a business is less than £72,000,
you don't need to register for that.
All right.
And I doubt he's making £72,000 in beer money.
And if he is, how is he still alive if he's using it as beer money?
I think this is just someone looking for something to worry about.
Yeah, I don't think you have to worry about this.
As long as the wood is good quality and seasoned well, it's fine, isn't it?
It's a mix of hard and soft.
It's not stolen wood like we fared.
It's not perlined wood.
Yeah, it's fine.
It's not bits of front door.
It's not the bar stall.
That's what I do when I encounter a small business,
like someone selling strawberries on the side of the road.
I ask, can I see your VAT status?
Okay, and then what happens?
Can I read your VAT status?
Where else are you going to go to get wood?
Like B and Q?
Someone with...
Big Wood.
Big Wood.
Not letting Big Wood rob me of my fortune.
I'll just get it from Bear Money Billy, like you say.
Maybe B&Q sounds for beer and quavers, and that's all that they use their money for.
B&Q is just selling stuff for beer money.
If it was beer and quavers, I would go more often.
No, that's not what they sell.
That's what they use your money that you spend there.
Oh.
I thought it was like a warehouse of all the different beer.
which I don't care about, and all the different quavers,
which I do care about.
Passionately, by the look of it.
Because you can only find cheese quavers.
That's because they've stopped making all the others.
If you find the others, they're very out of date.
Don't eat those.
They're a brand of crisp that only does one flavor.
They're specialists.
She's absurd specialists.
Boutherty.
They're bought out by Walkers.
They've been Walkers for as long as I can remember.
How old are you?
So they only do cheese now.
Why don't they just rebrand them as Walker's cheese curls?
whatever. Because that makes him sound off-brand.
But there's this whole brand devoted
to one flavour. This is nonsense.
They're like Skips?
Yeah, don't get me started on Skips.
Skips used to have different flavours too.
Oh. Am I being unreasonable? Any hairdress is about?
Where do I stand legally? If
there is a power cut while I'm having something done
and I'm halfway through it, e.g. like a hair colour.
I'm asking because Storm Diana
is imminent and I have an appointment booked this week.
Back in Jan there was a power cut the day after a storm.
on the day of my appointment, but at that time they had not started my treatment yet.
Power cuts around here seem to be getting pretty common now.
I don't really want to be sent home to watch the dye out myself if this happens
because I have long hair, and it would end up with dye all over my clothes and my coat.
Has anyone experienced anything like this?
I mean, if the hairdresser is halfway through shaving your head...
Then you've just got to fake it till you make it, girl.
Get out there and tell people that it's a strong look.
And that's what you've aimed for.
but if you've got a hair
like a head full of dye
I don't know how well
you can fake that till you make it
especially in a storm
like if it's rainy and windy
and you got hair dye everyone
splattering hair dye into
splattering everyone on the bus
yeah
why does she care where she stands legally
why are they all so litigious
could she not just be worried
about possibly having hair dye
instead she's like who can I sue
I need to sue someone
Diana's coming and I'm going to sue
if you're that worried
just reschedule your appointment
yeah just don't go
if you expect there to be a power cut, which it sounds like you do,
because power cuts happen all the time where you live.
Where does she live? The 70s?
If there is a power cut, how long is it likely to be for, really?
Sorry, I've just realised as well.
You don't wash dye out with electricity.
You wash die out with water.
But who can she sue if she has to have her hair washed in cold water?
That's what she needs to know.
I mean, I suppose she's had this bad experience
where she's been in the hairdressers
and seen that there's a power cut.
So maybe that's why she thinks it's worth asking.
She's freaking out.
She seems to be catastrophizing this somewhat.
I think so.
I think if you're planning for power cuts everywhere you go for the rest of your life,
you'll never get anything done.
Just dye your hair at home.
Become a prepper and in amongst all the tinned goods also have some hair dye.
Yeah, baked beans.
Hair dye.
Nives.
Hair dye.
Big bottles of water.
To wash out the hair dye.
Exactly.
That's going to be important after the apocalypse.
Why don't you ask the hair dye?
hairdressers, what they would do in that instance. Mine has an emergency generator that would
probably kick in. Jesus. How do you know that? Barber preppers. How does this person know
that? Do they go in? Is this a common fear? Like, people just wandering into hairdressers,
like, excuse me, but what happens if there's a power cut? I need to know before I can get any
treatments done. I've never even thought about it. Never occurred to me. Never thought about it at all.
I've got an undercut. Can't live your life like that. Just for like, the entire bottom half
with my hair do. And going forward, I'm going to tell people it's because there was a power
cut and I was supposed to get a buzz cut, but there was a power cut and that legally I had no
rights. Because they started at the bottom in a little circle around the bottom of your head.
I've never had a buzz cut. That's how they start. I'll tell you do it. You do from the outside
in until you've just got one tuft left poking up at the top of your head. Like a
unicorn. Oh. Yeah. I think that sounds as good a way as any. Does it? No. Power cuts don't
not water from working at O.P.
If they don't have a generator, they will at least be able to wash the dye out.
Why, they have a generator?
I don't know.
What's all this talking about?
Who are these barbers who have cornered the market for Apocalypse?
Barbing?
Like, after the apocalypse, they're going to be the barbers.
The only barbers in town.
After the apocalypse, how many people are going to be worrying about going to the barbers?
That's not going to be anyone's priority, surely.
When you're watching an apocalypse movie or a zombie movie, they've all got such greasy
hair.
They do need to go to the barbers.
Yeah.
I've seen Vigo Martinson in the road.
Lanky, lanky hair.
And he had such nice hair when he was playing Aragon.
After the apocalypse, it is going to be barbers and beer money billy
selling his firewood by the side of the road.
The only ones that survive, like roaches.
All the bees, the barbers and beer money billy.
To be honest, in the apocalypse situation,
beer money billy is going to do really well.
Yeah, because he's got a shitload of firewood.
He doesn't need power and he doesn't have very many overhaired.
or any overheads, or any overheads, or VAT forms.
Exactly.
And people will...
After the apocalypse, all the other firewood salesmen are hurrying about with their forms,
just what they're trying to hand them into a government that doesn't exist.
Bair money billy's there.
Just operating as he always has cash in hand.
And everybody is going to need firewood, because there won't be anything else.
Just fires.
Yeah.
The barber's going to need to start fires just to heat up the water for a blue rinse.
Someone said, catastrophic storm and a hairdo is the only concern.
Got to love the British and their weather.
Is it a catastrophic storm?
I think places on the coast were pretty hard hit, but not really.
It wasn't catastrophic by any definition.
It was more of a classic bins flying about situation, wasn't it?
Classic bins.
Classic bins.
This will be bins. Bins, barbers and beer money billy.
I really like this response.
The chance of that happening is small.
Don't worry about it.
What a nice, kind person giving a serious response to a truly ridiculous question.
Could you imagine being the lawyer that was approached for this case?
Like, do you imagine someone coming to you?
You're going about your business.
You've trained for however many years.
And then someone's like, listen, there was a storm,
they didn't have an emergency generator,
and my hair was a bit wet.
I suppose when you specialise in barbola, though, you've dug your own grave.
Yeah, yeah.
You wanted to work in barbola.
You trained for several years to work in barbillore
A competitive field of barbillore
You're a barber paralegal for a bit
Until you've got a barber training contract
That's not a contractor trained to be a barber
I know you'll be a barber partner
But for now you're a barbara law
Barba partner is really satisfying combination of sounds
Barba barbaba law
Barba law
Oh barbola
Oh barbolo
Shall we move on?
That was a good musical interlude.
Thanks.
Am I being unreasonable to think family pieces should not be sold?
As a family, we're fortunate to own some family pieces of furniture.
Nothing very grand, things like a bureau that has been in the family since the 1770s.
A sideboard with cupboards that were fitted in the captain's cabin on a ship in 1850,
and a billiards table from 1900.
My elderly family are downsizing and have decided they should sell them.
Am I being unreasonable to think that everything should be done to keep them in the family,
the same member throughout hundreds of old family pictures,
and a painting from the 1800s to 1930s, and kept the best ones?
I understand they knew many of these people, and so don't seem far removed.
But for my children or grandchildren in, say, 2060,
they will be hugely interesting.
Sounds like a boozy problem.
I hate the O.P.
Oh no.
Do you want to recap the reasons why?
If you've got family pieces of furniture, you're probably the aristocracy,
and so you're not going to be my bag, are you?
One.
Yes, this does sound like the firstest of first world problems.
Number two.
My elderly family are downsizing, and they should be kept in the family.
Okay, but you haven't offered any solutions as to how to help the elderly family,
You're just saying to your elderly family
No, keep all this shit here
Why don't you buy them off them
Because they want them money?
Well, exactly.
Number three,
hundreds of old family pictures
I mean, yeah, throw those out
You should not have hundreds of old family pictures.
Number four, I understand they knew many of these people
But the pictures were from 1800 to 1930.
How elderly are these relatives?
This person is that shit.
I've got no notice.
time for them. I think it's nice to keep family photos, but you can, like, digitise them or whatever.
Also, paintings are something else. Paintings take up a lot of room. Yeah. I also think,
they've said they kept the best ones. If these are really old pictures, there's a good possibility
that a lot of them won't be of any quality worth looking at anymore. It's true. But they have
kept the ones that they have decided are worth it. This is all one big stealth boast to say, I am
the aristocracy. Also, as a family, we are fortunate to own some family pieces.
No, you don't own some family pieces.
You have some relatives who own some pieces that have been in the family,
but you can't say that we own them
if the relatives are able to make this decision to get rid of them.
You're claiming ownership of something,
but you're insisting that they keep it in their house by the sound of it.
It's hard to relate to this,
because our family furniture is an IKEA desk and chair.
And we could go to IKEA and get exact replicas of those fairly easily.
I'll have you know that.
Either the chair or the desk is from Argos, I can't remember which, but one of them's definitely from Argos.
Oh well, that's important then.
Yeah.
That's better. Keep that in the family.
I've got some Nat West Pigs.
You have?
I'm going to pass them to my children, or my cats.
I wouldn't pass them to the cats just now.
When they're a bit older, then they'll understand.
Okay.
They're going to be worth a fortune one day.
They're not a complete set.
They are a complete set.
They're not a complete set.
They are a complete set.
I think you might need to explain this.
They don't have the weird cousin that was added to the family at a later date
as part of a later marketing campaign on the part of NatWest,
who produced these NatWest Piggies.
Do you think the OP is maybe the weird cousin who's been added at a later date,
and that's why they get no say in the furniture?
It's all tied together.
It's like a character who gets added into the fourth season of a sitcom to rejuvenate it.
No one gives us shit about Cousin Wesley.
Cousin Wesley was not one of the original NatWest Piggy's.
So back to the thread.
I think also the idea they have lasted this long
She doesn't seem to be able to say any reason why she wants this furniture
She's never expressed that she wants this furniture
She thinks it should stay in the family
But she hasn't said that she wants it
And she only seems to think it should stay in the family
Because it's lasted this long
That seems a bit like we've come this far
In terms of space in your house
There's a bit of a sunk cost fallacy at this point
Love it out
When it says my elderly family are downsizing
I like to imagine it's from the movie downstice
They're actively shrinking, and they can't shrink.
The technology doesn't exist to shrink a bureau.
Yeah, I mean, by the time that you shrink a bureau down, because of the scaling, the likelihood is, it just won't work.
Just make it like a little dollhouse bureau.
Yeah.
Just get a dollhouse manufacturer to make it cash in hand.
No.
No.
It was wood that you bought from Beer Money Billy.
Here, can you make this into a fascinating bureau from the 1860s?
It needs to be small enough for my tiny shrinking relatives.
Also, the fact she refers to them as relatives and won't say who they are.
Makes me wonder how close they are.
I do think she might be some extraneous cousin or relative by marriage
or in some way not closely related enough for anyone to think that she gets a say
in what happens to this damn bureau.
Yeah, real cousin Wesley.
Scrappy-Doo over here.
Scrappy-Doo wants a bureau.
They are Scrappy-Doo.
Scrappy Doo, trying to sell Scooby's family's furniture.
Yeah, they never really cover Scooby and Scrappy Do's family
and the furniture that those talking dogs might own.
I was going to point out that dogs don't tend to own furniture,
but that is unreasonable because they're not your average dogs.
No, Scrappy at least, can talk.
And they can both solve mysteries.
Yeah, well, they're sort of there while mysteries are solved.
I think Scrappy would like to take credit.
Phelma and Fred did it all.
Scrappy, the stoner, Scooby.
They were just there for the ride.
Yeah.
There for the big sandwiches.
There for the antique furniture.
Do you know what Scooby-Doo's sister was called?
No.
Ruby Doe.
Ruby do you? That's so cute.
Ruby do you?
Do you ever see Ruby Do you?
I don't know.
I'm just reading the Wikipedia entry for Scrappy-Doo.
He was born to Scooby-Doo's sister Ruby Do on December 20th, 1980, specific.
in a hospital
so these giant dogs do
go to hospitals for births and stuff
just adds more mystery
why do we know that much but no more
who's Ruby Doe
Can I find a picture of Ruby Doe
Ruby Ruby Doe
Ruby Doe is the mother of Scrappy Do
The only daughter of Mumsy
and Dadda Doe
Mumsie and Dadda Do
God they gave them names
really marking out what they thought
they were going to do with their lives
didn't they? Very prescriptive
How it says her Mumsy's name is actually
Mumsy Do
Makes sense, I suppose
She's not a great dain, she's a grand old dame
Look at her
We'll post a picture of her
We'll get back to the thread
I found a photo of the birth of Scooby-Doo
Yes, you did
I wonder how much of this makes the edit
I said photo
But I think it's more than artist rendering
Well, I mean
Given that they are animations
It's equivalent, isn't it?
It's like that live action version
Of the Lion King that they're making
Yeah
Actually, it's all CG, but it looks photorealistic.
So anyway, back to the thread.
This doesn't look photorealistic.
Are you back on Scooby-Doo?
So Mama Dew gives birth to Scooby-Doo.
The husband comes into the room and asks, she asks, if their new baby looks beautiful.
The newborn then says, Scooby-Doo.
So they decide to name him that.
That's quite the coincidence that he happened to say a combination of sounds that includes
their existing last name.
Maybe do is just like a default thing
that all of these dogs say
and that's why it's the last name.
Like maybe these goose could talk
because it says the husband came in
and she asked if their new baby looks beautiful.
Yeah but I mean
newborns.
Newborn babies can all make a similar set of noises.
You know like Anglophone newborn babies
can all make a similar set of noises, whatever.
Maybe for these dogs.
I don't know why I'm back to the thread sign.
If that's the case, if that's the case that all babies can make these sounds, then why aren't they
like, oh, they're just baby dog sounds?
Baby dog.
Dog do do do do do baby dog.
We're getting back to the damn thread.
Yeah, what were we talking about? Scrappy do, right?
No.
Scrappy do's furniture.
How much furniture does Scrappy do have?
Am I being unreasonable to think Christmas jumpers should be banned?
Well, not banned, but I hate the way everyone is pressured to purchase and buy one of these.
Work is taking part in the dreaded Christmas jumper day,
and it's very much frowned upon if you don't take part.
I don't own an Xmas jumper, and I resent paying £20 for a jumper I'll only be able to wear for three weeks of the year.
I know you can wear it again next year, but to be honest, I find the fabrics very uncomfortable.
Let's not forget, the designs are mostly hideous.
Everyone is pressured to purchase and buy one.
It's tough.
It is difficult when you've got to buy two jumpers
because you've got to cover all the bases on the verbs.
You get to pay it for the same jumper twice.
One to purchase it and want to buy it.
All cash in hand to Christmas jumper Kevin.
Christmas jumper Kevin.
Dodgy Christmas jumper Kevin.
Is he doing it for beer money?
Probably.
You know what people are like.
Everything's for beer money.
Yeah, it's political correctness gone mad now.
You can't walk down the street in December
without being told that you need to wear a Christmas jumper.
Surely the political correctness gone mad would be that you can't wear a Christmas jumper in case you offend someone.
Yeah, yeah.
I heard if you wear a Christmas jumper, they arrest you and put you in jail.
I heard you stole that bit from Stuart Lee.
It was on a march.
You have to wear your Winterville jumper.
Yeah, your non-denominational Winter Festival jumper.
If anyone knows where I can get a jumper that's just plain black and then in plain grey lettering,
and says Winterville, I would like that.
You need to have a picture of Hanukkah candles on the back at Baby Jesus.
Muhammad.
Definitely don't put a picture of Mohammed on a jumper.
My God, the most offensive jumper ever.
Just like a picture of Mohammed and then happy fucking Christmas.
Jesus, no.
Then underneath or whatever you Jews are into.
The most offensive jumper ever.
This is a terrible jumper.
If you wear that jumper, you will be.
arrested and put in jail. You should, it's a hate crime. And it incites hate crime. So that
Christmas jumper should be banned, yeah. Our theoretical, awful, awful jumper. Yeah. Yeah, that should
be banned immediately. Is everyone pressured to purchase and buy one of them? Let's put aside the
fact that she's used tautology there, but there's no pressure, is there? Isn't Christmas
Jump a date mostly about collecting for charity nowadays? Yeah, it's for Save the Children, if you're
doing it right. I don't know, like, I can see that if they're saying, oh, wear a Christmas jumper,
everyone's going to do it and you might feel a bit silly if you don't. But I don't see why you
can't just wear like a red jumper or a green jumper. Yeah, you had a jumper that was fairly
quite and quote Christmasy. But it was really just a red jumper. Yeah, exactly. A nice
fair aisle knit. People love a fair aisle knit. Well, anything with a bit of glitter on. Like
40% of my jumpers get branded Christmas jumpers because they've got like a sort of glitter
a thread that runs through them because everything should be sparkly.
Otherwise, why would you even be able to get out of the door in the morning?
You've got to throw a bit of glitter on to get yourself pumped up.
Helsey style tips.
Helsey style tips section.
Why not wear a Christmas jumper to beat season effective disorder?
This has been Helsey's style tips.
Yeah.
But let's not forget, the designs are mostly hideous.
Mostly hideous.
She says mostly hideous, which suggests that she's seen some that she likes.
So why didn't she just buy one of those and get on with it?
It's okay, this Christmas jumper's only, mostly hideous.
Princess Bride.
That's a good one.
Someone's done what happens every time Christmas jumpers get mentioned on mum's there
and said, loop some tinsel round a jumper.
And that does sound very uncomfortable.
Tinsel is itchy and noisy, and it sheds.
That's like having a scarf on, except it's really itchy and awful.
Yeah.
There are plenty of jumpers that are a bit Christmassy, that aren't Christmas jumpers.
Yeah, like this jumper with a picture of Scooby-Doo.
dressed up as Santa Claus, saying ho, ho, ho.
Hey, why does that say ugly Christmas sweatshirt?
That's a beautiful jumper.
I'm hurt.
I'm hurt on behalf of that jumper.
I guess some people don't want to wear a Scooby-Doo Christmas jumper.
Someone has said, we have winter jumpers, penguins, polar bears, etc.
What about a 3D polar bear?
You know, like you can get those 3D jumpers.
Just a bear bouncing out of the sweatshirt.
Like alien, but Christmasy.
Yeah, big wool bear.
I found a great jumper that says,
someone passed Shaggy the Baggie
so he can roll Scooby a Doobie.
I don't think the OP should wear that to work.
That good 420 humour, a good marijuana humour.
I don't, I hate that good marijuana humour.
Even when it comes from Scooby-Doo.
You know what, this episode is just lost, isn't it?
This is the lost Scooby-Div episode.
This is ridiculous.
Every podcast has one.
This is ours.
Am I being unreasoned?
I'm going to have a look and see.
if I can find a Scooby-Doo, Am I Being Unreasonable, Spooby-Doo? In reception class.
After two weeks of rehearsals, songs and nativity play performances, I'm not really surprised
that the teachers part the reception class in front of the TV a few times at the end of last week,
but I was a bit startled when Dee Dee Revealed they'd watched Scooby-Doo. I think the film
rather than the cartoon. At four, she's not exactly a reliable witness. She watches quite a bit
of telly and DVDs, and I've not yet taken her to the cinema as she finds films on DVD
quite overwhelming, so I'm waiting for something that I feel confident she'll enjoy. I've never
actually seen the Scooby-Doo film, though I understand it's not much cop. Am I being unreasonable to
have a slight feeling that if they're going to park the kids in front of the telly, they ought to find
something that's any good, and is the Scooby-Doo film suitable for four-year-olds? I'm new to this
whole school thing. What? I don't
What should they have been shown?
Like, Frozen?
No, because one of her objections seems to be that she thinks that a film is inappropriate
because the kid's too young to appreciate a film.
But that might not be about age, that might be a personality trait.
I really struggle with films that are over 90 minutes long,
because I'm like, well, why are you still going on?
What if her kid just never grows into wanting to watch something for that long?
It's possible.
It is possible.
A kid could have ADHD.
Exactly.
Is this a Scooby-Doo film with the weird live action?
Scooby-Doo. That's what I'm imagining, yeah.
Almost so, Michelle Geller. That's what I'm imagining.
And Freddy Prince, Jr.
And Freddy Prince Jr.
Nice, yeah. I like them.
A good pair.
Good couple.
Like, I don't understand why she's startled.
She says, oh, I'm startled by it.
But then she says, oh, is the film suitable for four-year-olds?
And she's also said that she hasn't seen it.
But then she says, shouldn't they be watching something that's any good?
Like, what? Gone with a Wind.
Oh, God.
That's...
Citizen Kane.
Why weren't they watching Citizen Kane?
But not the film, because that's too long for children.
Why isn't there a TV adaptation of Citizen Kane for children?
For four-year-olds with short attention spans?
They're doing all these live-action remakes of Disney films.
They need to do an animated demake of Citizen Kane.
I would watch that.
For kids.
With good musical numbers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I really don't understand.
Like, why does she object?
Is it because Scooby-Doo's all that bad stoner human?
and she doesn't think that's appropriate for a child.
I think that's only on this sweatshirt.
I don't think that's in the show.
Yeah, but I mean, it is heavily alluded to, isn't it?
Yeah, I guess so.
But it's only heavily alluded to if you know what's being alluded to.
And at four, if you know what's being alluded to,
then too late damage is done.
And if you don't, it's fine.
It's just a funny dog and a hungry man.
It is a funny dog and a hungry man.
Problem solved.
The Scooby-Doo film from 2002 is just a
under 90 minutes long and it's a PG. PG might be a little old for four-year-olds. I feel like at four
you probably still want you, don't you? I don't think they would understand it. But it's got the
funny dog and the hungry man. Someone has said, did she enjoy it? Which I think is the important
part, isn't it? Yes. The OP has come back and said she seemed more interested in the jammy
dodgers they were given, to be honest. Well, I would be more interested in the jammy
judges too. But as it transpires, the OP's not all that happy about that either. Uh-oh.
The OP sounds a little bit joyless.
What does she think should be going on?
Just a jammy dodger isn't going to do any harm.
Also, if the kid's that excited about a jammy dodger and the OP doesn't approve,
the OP is setting that kid up to go binging on sweets
the moment that she can get to a shop alone with her pocket money.
Yeah, it's nice to have a jammy dodger and a Scooby-Doo watch.
Yeah, it's Christmas time.
It doesn't sound like in the middle of, you know, term while they were doing work.
They were just there plowing jammy dodgers into her kid's mouth.
Yeah.
Couldn't they have some time to play with Lego or something?
This is just ridiculous.
It's tough to be a teacher and sometimes you've got to sit them down in front of Scooby-Doo.
Exactly.
Not classic Scooby-Doo, the live-action mimic.
Yeah, is Scooby-Doo being unreasonable?
No, but Freddie Prince Jr. is.
Tell me for why.
Too handsome.
Too handsome?
He can't help that.
Save some for the rest of us, am I right?
Do you want him to do?
You go walking into a load of doors?
No, if anything, I think that now you are being unreasonable
And on that we'll do one more speed round
Am I being unreasonable, husband to be no longer wants to get married
Oof, no, that's rough
Yeah
It's a serious one
Yeah
Am I being unreasonable, should I tell him he drank my moon cup water
Oh my God
What is wrong with these speed round ones?
These are all serious issues
That we're not equipped to deal with
Am I being unreasonable crying over spilt milk?
Well, crumbled cake.
Oh, that's better.
Yeah, don't cry.
Am I being unreasonable to do a basic Christmas lunch?
Depends on what you mean by the word basic.
Just pumpkin spice latte.
Oh, no.
Am I being unreasonable?
Fake am I being unreasonables?
Oh, I hate fake.
Am I being?
They undermine our whole business venture.
This is not a business venture.
We do not have a Patreon.
Unreasonable industries.
Am I being unreasonable?
New to Mumsnet, why so many trans threads?
No, welcome to Mumsnet.
And last one, am I being unreasonable to be so overwhelmed by the world of podcasts?
No, podcasts are great.
Don't be overwhelmed.
If you want an insight into how podcasts work, why not come to a live recording?
A live recording of this podcast tells.
Well, she's already familiar with the subject matter, so it will help with her feeling overwhelmed.
I don't see why she wouldn't come.
I don't see why anyone in the London area wouldn't come.
To our live recording on Thursday, the 13th of December at 7.30pm at the Chapel Playhouse in Kings Cross.
Tickets are £3.
Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun.
You should come along.
We want as many people as possible to come.
It's going to be a great evening.
Yeah, it is.
And I'm going to post this on our Twitter page to prove this was a real thread and not just a really tedious segue.
It was a real thread that I turned into a tedious segue because of the magic.
of podcasting.
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