You Are Being Unreasonable - 043 - In which we eat a whole roast dinner in a toastie

Episode Date: April 18, 2019

"Come is cheap." This week we invite you to join us both for a delicious roast: pork, roast potatoes, broccoli, carrot, Yoskhire puddings, and cheese all sandwiched between two slices of toasted bread.... Yum. We discuss the logistics of fitting the roast potatoes into this Worst Sandwich and the mysterious presence of cheese. Also: Do bankers really do a lot of cocaine? Should you live-vlog a first date as a YouTube influencer? And what should you put in your work email signature in order to not be a dick?

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, driving on drugs feels better when they're prescription. All I know, the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, right now. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, Hello.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Hello. Welcome to You Are Being Unreasonable, a podcast about people being unreasonable on mumsnet.com. Lots of unreasonableness on the internet this week. A lot of it is just people who are really angry about Easter eggs, but I'm not going to do those threads because you can just imagine how they go. We don't need full threads of someone saying, Easter eggs are only for Easter Sunday, and when I was a child, it was just a blown egg with a face painted on it.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Anything more than that is ridiculous. You know what I'm angry about, you know. I've been to Sainsbury's looking for this cheese egg. You've been looking for this cheese egg for some time. It's an egg made out of solid cheese. I think your problem is you've been to Sainsbury's a lot, but you've been to the same Sainsbury's every time, and you haven't left that much of a gap between visits.
Starting point is 00:01:11 You've been to Sainsbury's, what, five times in the space of three days, always the same not particularly large branch. When we finish this recording, I'm going to go to the big Sainsbury's and have a look for you. I think Einstein said that definition of insanity is going to the same Sainsbury's again and again expecting there to be a cheese egg. Something similar to that, yeah. Should you do a speed round?
Starting point is 00:01:32 Yeah. Am I being unreasonable another mother-in-law one? Oh, not another mother-in-law one. Am I being unreasonable to be horrified to find an entire poo in my toddler's bag? An adult-sized poo, yes. Surely, what makes something an entire poo and what makes it a bit of a poo? And would it be less horrific if it was only a poo? half a poo? We don't know. It's the speed round. Am I being unreasonable?
Starting point is 00:02:00 Toddler at Slimming World. Yes. Toddlers don't need to slim. Too much pressure at size zero babies. Oh, size zero baby sounds very scary. It's like Little Miss Sunshine when they have the beauty contest for the kids at the end. The whole point is it's creepy. Yeah. No. Am I being unreasonable? Aldi has ruined Easter. Yeah, sure. And final one for the speed round. Am I being unreasonable to be upset, I lost his umbilical cord stump. Yeah, you need to keep this shit. Keep the baby teeth, keep the umbilical cord, keep the tiny nails.
Starting point is 00:02:35 That one was a special shout out for you, because I know this is a thing that you're very into. Just think, you know, got to keep these bits of babies. Bits of babies. No, that's disgusting. Bits of babies. Am I being unreasonable, professional people and drug use? I work in banking and move to London a year ago for a career opportunity I'm in my early 30s and have never thought of myself as particularly naive
Starting point is 00:03:01 but I'm genuinely shocked by how many of my colleagues regularly used drugs by drugs I'm mostly referring to cocaine they all talk about this very openly as if it's perfectly normal and acceptable thing to do at the weekend after work or when they have spare time without the kids On the rare occasions that I've been along to social events after work, it's always offered around and I appear to be the only one not partaking. None of these people are particularly young either, mostly 30s and 40s, and all of very
Starting point is 00:03:34 successful professional people, who, in my perhaps judgmental opinion, aren't the typical drug-using types. Some are single, but many have families. I mention this to a friend of mine who seem to think this is now commonplace among working professionals, particularly in the city. I'm curious as to whether this sort of thing has really become more normal and accepted now. Well, I mean, you say you're not naive, but you obviously are. Why would you be asking if it's suddenly a thing that bankers do coke? Yeah, because if you've watched any cultural product featuring, you know, banking or finance in the past
Starting point is 00:04:11 10 years. 20 years, 30 years, ever. You've seen a banker doing Coke. If you've seen a banker, you have seen a banker on Coke. Yeah. If you know a banker, you know someone who uses coke. 2008 financial crisis came out of this. Because they're all coked up. The thing that makes it even more bizarre is this person is themselves a banker. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:37 How do you get into banking in the city without realizing this? It's not like they go into the cocaine rooms. And why do they think that this part, like, this isn't the usual drug user? I mean, I'm not sure, but I would imagine that the usual cocaine user is indeed someone who has enough money to buy shed loads of cocaine, as opposed to someone who does not. Yeah, it's not like cocaine is an inner-city drug. No. It's an in the city drug. In the city, but also in the home counties.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Yeah. And anywhere else that you might find bankers. Always doing cocaine. They just love a bit of coke. I worked in a bank for a brief time and no one offered me any coke. Did you work in like a banking environment though? Did you work in a high street bank? I worked in the head office or the high street bank.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Yeah, so there I can see that you might not run into people doing coke all the time. But even if I did, I wouldn't be a gnarc about it. This person's a gnawark. Yeah, going to their friend being all like, I can't believe it. They were doing coke. Cain. Yeah, they sure were. Yeah, and the friends obviously just like, what the...
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah, obviously. Jesus, Karen, open your eyes. No, this is just nonsense. Yeah, and then going to Mumsnet about it. Mums, I've been to the bank and they're all doing cocaine. Exactly. And the city is off... These banking practices, it seems very high risk to me.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I'm just going to put it out. out there that if you are both a banker and someone who starts a thread on mum's neck, you're probably a dickhead. Even more than that, the fact that they seem to think this is something now. Like, it's the fact they keep saying, is this more commonplace now? Has this become more popular? Because the 80s was a decade that happened. There were lots of mistakes in the 80s.
Starting point is 00:06:34 This person's in their 30s, so it's safe to assume. Remember when you were born, that has to have been the 80s. Yeah. Like, unless you're really, really on the cusp of 40, It was the 80s and everyone went to see back to the future and came outside of it and Reagan bought them some Coke and then they went to work in the bank the next day. I was only alive for eight days of the 80s
Starting point is 00:06:56 I imagine I was too little for this thing where you saw a film and then got given Coke. Reagan came and just gave you coke. Thatcher was there too sometimes. Just handing out the Coke. Just handing out the Coke, hither and yon. And there's Charlie Sheen. I do like the idea in this thread, sorry, back to the thread of it.
Starting point is 00:07:13 she says it's a thing that people do when they're at a party or they've got some downtime or the kids aren't around well yeah not in the break room like yeah these seem like times when someone would do cocaine I just I don't understand why she's so shocked and appalled in the sector I work in if there was a big coke problem I would be stunned because it is a sector which under pays but yeah that's the thing about coke, it's pricey. It's a pricey drug. It's not as pricey as, for example, saffron, and we do have some saffron in the kitchen, but I wouldn't snort that in vast quantities. No. I'd use a single thread of it. It's overblown, this idea that saffron is expensive. Fine. Saffron's quite a cheap spice nowadays. Is that true? Well, until October 31st. Well, yes. But yeah, it's crazy that we have
Starting point is 00:08:05 room in our spice rack for, we've got a spice rack and we have room in our spice rack for this saffron that I used once to make a risotto, but we don't have room for Dill. Dill is sitting out on its lonesome. Yeah, maybe I prioritised incorrectly. I just think something as valuable as saffron should be on display. It's really a power move. It's so that I can invite people around, they can say that's a nice spice rack and they would have seen that we have saffron. Yeah. And they know, yeah, they're doing all right. Yeah, and because it's in a spice rack and dill is out on the side, they'll think we use it more than dill, which is crazy. I put dill on everything.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I didn't like dill until about six months ago, and now I'm really making up for lost time. A lifetime of dill. Do you think it had that taste like coriander has to some people to you before? Because taste buds change. Yeah, it didn't taste off soap, but it did have a taste that just felt medicinal to me. Oh, no, no. Let's hear from the thread. Coke is cheaper than five pints in the UK
Starting point is 00:09:07 Okay Surely that depends on the quantity of coke you buy If you're given the quantity of pipes You should give the quantity of coke Otherwise I don't like for like are they I don't want five pints No I don't want any coke either though I don't want one pint nearly
Starting point is 00:09:21 Five points London prices would be what 30 quid I don't know how much 30 quid's worth of coke is But either way I don't think you can make the argument That this is a very accessible thing that you can just do willy-nilly all the time.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Shall I check Amazon? Don't go on Amazon and search for cocaine. I'm certainly saying for crack cocaine. Please don't. Oh, Simon. No. No. The first thing that comes up is a book saying stop using crack cocaine.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Someone said Coke ain't cheap. It's the only ones that can afford it. And if someone's responded saying, come is cheap. Which I assume is supposed to say Coke is cheap. Come is cheap. But maybe they're suggesting that if you can't afford drugs. Here's an alternative, lads. Another ways to amuse yourself.
Starting point is 00:10:10 There's just so much stuff on here where it's just people arguing about the price of Coke and possibly the price of cum. Come is cheap. It's just a great way to dismiss anyone. Someone's made a point you don't like, well, come is cheap. Then you walk away. Do I explain it? It's like saying talk is cheap, but like way more confusing and a bit gross.
Starting point is 00:10:33 don't even be sure that you said what you said because you've already walked away. And then if they ever ask anyone else if that's a thing, they'd be like, obviously that's not what they said. No, who would say that? So there we go. Coke may or may not be cheap. Come, may or may not be cheap.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Is the original post to being unreasonable? Yeah, because they're a snitching out their banking colleagues. Now I'm no friend to the bankers, but I'm no friend to the snitches either. Am I being unreasonable? Pork dinner on a toasty. husband in a strop Oh no My husband has just presented me with a brevel
Starting point is 00:11:07 Pork, roast potato, broccoli, carrot Yorkshire pudding and cheese Am I being unreasonable? I turned my nose to fuck It was plain weird He's now sulking and threatening To never ever make me a Toasty again As I'm so ungrateful
Starting point is 00:11:22 There's a lot A lot going on here Just why are we got only them Brevels instead of Toasties? I don't know Well if it's not made in a brevel or if it's made in a George Foreman grill. Well, I mean, it does sound like there would be a lot of grease that you could get out of this
Starting point is 00:11:37 and it might be worth doing it in a George Forman grill between the pork, the Yorkshire puddings, the roasties and the cheese. I'm confused as to how roasties fit in a toasty, roasty toasty. Roasty toasty. How do they fit? What? Maybe they were sliced up. I don't understand how any of it fit.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Also, the thing that really, I know this is irrelevant. It's not a pork dinner. because a pork dinner wouldn't have cheese on it. No, but a cheese toasty would. But this doesn't say cheese toasty. What I was going to say is, is it like when you go to a cafe and if you get a toasty, it's a given that there's cheese? Yeah, I was going to say, a toasty implies cheese.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Okay, just wanted to be sure. Just because I wasn't sure if also at home, they sometimes have a roast dinner of pork, roast potato, broccoli, carrot, Yorkshire pudding and cheese. It's grated cheese on the plate. I was picturing just like, just a slab of brie. A camember. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:32 A camember for dipping. For dipping your roasties in. Actually, yeah. We're recording this on a Sunday, so Simon could do this. There's a pop around the corner that has camember on the menu as a starter and does roasts. Yeah. Bring them at the same time. And I wink at the server.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And then we get barred. No, I think that would really liven up a roast, having a little cheese pot, fondue pot on the side of a dipping. Because the problem with a roast, is it can be quite dry and boring right so dipping it in cheese would solve the dryness issue
Starting point is 00:13:08 yeah but I think just taking all of these lovely bits of food and then seasoning them properly and cooking each of them in the way that suits them best would be better than a roast I detest a roast
Starting point is 00:13:18 well I've been on my why I hate roast rant so much almost as much as why I hate Harry Potter rant maybe we'll do another special where you tell me about roast so I just don't understand well the thing here is
Starting point is 00:13:31 The husband made a roast, right? He made pork, roast, potato, broccoli, carrot, yorkshire, pudding, and cheese for some reason. He made a roast and then he just put it in a sandwich. You're working on the assumption that all these component parts are cooked. Maybe this is how he cooked to them. I think they were cooked in the revel. That's not going to cook them through my dude. Roasties out the freezer.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Frozen roasties. Your aunt Bessies are going to be hard. Raw carrot, raw broccoli. Yeah. Frozen yorkers. No, hard at Bessies. The only thing here that is in the state it should have been in when it went into the bread is the cheese. I can't even conceive eating this.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Like, when you lift it up, everything's going to fall out. Yeah. It's so dense and heavy. Yeah. How is it a Yorkshire pudding in this? What? Also, have you seen you can get those like Yorkshire pudding burritos? Yeah, but the Yorkshire pudding is the wrap.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Exactly. So what I was going to say is, why wouldn't you just use the Yorkshire's to turn this into a sandwich? Maybe that's what he did, and she's not being clear. I mean, even that is what he did, it's not great. No. In that case, I'd put yotcha pudding last, because otherwise it implies that the cheese was wrapped around the yotcher pudding. There's no way to eat.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Like, a really big piece of cheese that somehow had a big bit carved out of it, so there's like a post box within it, and then you just stuff all the bits in. The correct way to make this sandwich is to... Don't make this sandwich. sandwich. Assemble it and then roast it. Then you roast a sandwich.
Starting point is 00:15:05 You just leave it in the oven for, you know, however long you leave a roast for. You can get roast dinner sandwiches, particularly around Christmas. You can get Christmas sandwiches, but they're usually just meat and stuffing and like some sort of sauce and maybe one type of vegetable. Yeah, and my point is that the sandwich is assembled after the roast is done. Yeah. I say to make a roast sandwich, you roast the whole sandwich. I don't want to do the classic Mum's Net Grip thing. but there is a relevant piece of information here
Starting point is 00:15:33 that's not in the post but is part of the post which is the time stamp this was posted at 140 a.m. Now they might not be in the UK but because they're making a roast with Yorkshire puddings and all that I'm assuming they probably are in the UK. I could go a spaghetti carbon hour sandwich oh oh I hate it how's it any different than I haven't cheatsam them It's got spaghetti in it.
Starting point is 00:16:01 That is the difference. Also, if your carbunara is just spaghetti with ham and cheese, it's not a carbunara, it's cheesy ham pasta for babies. Carbonara's made for raw egg, which cooks with the pasta, the heat of the pastickers.
Starting point is 00:16:14 But there is no pasta in this, so it's just break a raw egg on some bread and then toast it. No, no, there is pasta in this. You make the spaghetti carbonata with the raw egg, and then you put it between two slices, revel it up.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I've come right round on this and I think this... You've come right round on this! This person is actually a culinary genius of the style of Greg Wallace or Heston Blumenthal. Is Greg Wallace? Yeah, you see, Heston Blumenthal? That's fine, that's legit. Is Greg Wallace a culinary genius or does he just have a very expressive face? Because they're not the same.
Starting point is 00:16:52 He's the opposite of me in that respect. In that you... Very expressive. Yeah, you don't... Oh my God, sorry, I got distracted. I would swap the cheese for stuffing and have a ramekin of gravy to dip it in now I've come around on this I think this could work
Starting point is 00:17:09 I'm going out for the entire afternoon I won't come home until I'm sure you've eaten so I don't have to see this unboxing day like you have the leftover components of your Christmas roast in a sandwich Christmas sandwich yeah but I'm just thinking but you don't put the Yorkshire or the potatoes in that sandwich that's where I was hesitated
Starting point is 00:17:28 No, you'd have the potatoes for breakfast. Yeah. So back to what I was saying about when you buy a Christmas sandwich, it's like meat and stuffing and maybe one of the vegetables. It's like half a roast, really. Yeah. Because you're leaving out the components that do not work, like roast potatoes and yorkshire puddings.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yeah. Someone said, I was a bridesmaid earlier today, so I've been drinking since about 10 a.m. And that sounds like the most amazing toasty ever. Why did you start drinking at 10 if you were in the wedding? Loads of people are really coming around to this. Everyone wants it. by the timestamps on this, because these are posted at like two in the morning.
Starting point is 00:18:03 You do get a lot of traffic on Mumsnet in the middle of the night from people who are up with small babies. Wow, with the babies. Yeah, there is a lot of overnight traffic on Mumsnet and also it is... Sometimes I forget about the Mums on Mumsnet. It's easy to forget because there are so many people who start threads with like, I'm not a mother and I have no intention of ever being a mother, but I've just wanted to say that I saw a child on the bus and I was offended. What? Exactly. the late night crowd really I want to say I'm going to go to the last page and see if by the time that morning rolls round
Starting point is 00:18:33 and we're back to the people who aren't up in the middle of the night the mood has changed and the sun comes up and everyone looks on what they've done in the fresh light of morning everyone's contacting mums at hq to have their posts removed for privacy reasons yeah okay so now we've come to the last page which is the um the people who are up at a normal time someone has said It sounds vile. Are you sure this isn't just a dream? Someone else has said sounds like the type of thing I'd have loved after a night drinking or a night in smoking weed back in my uni days. Now not so much. Or doing cocaine. Someone said, I'm vegan, it sounds bloody good to me. Obviously I wouldn't eat it, but it smell, but I bet it smells yum. So there we go, even at lunchtime. I thought it was just the overnight people who'd all gone a bit mad, but no.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Well, I've come round. I haven't. I was initially disgusted, but I think done right, this could be an engagement. incredible new type of cuisine well I don't eat pork so that's already gonna be an issue I don't particularly enjoy roasts just because I like my food to be very heavily seasoned and no I don't want to eat at 20 to 2 in the morning so I wasn't the target market but you know each of their own fair enough live and let live am I being unreasonable he vlogged our date so my friend set me up with a
Starting point is 00:19:49 guy she knows from her hobby group we chatted a bit online and he seemed nice enough so we met up we spoke on WhatsApp but he kept asking for my snack Instagram, Insta, etc. He's very into YouTube and kept asking me to subscribe to his channel. So I arrived last night and he's literally filming as I walk in and asked if I'm excited to meet him, how I'm feeling, etc. I kind of laugh it off, but then I'm getting increasingly annoyed as he keeps asking for us to take a selfie, messing around with that weird dog ear filter thing. He also wanted to play this weird 20 questions about you game, but said he wouldn't put it online if I don't want to. So I get home and within literally
Starting point is 00:20:26 five minutes of him dropping me off he text me to say the video is up on his profile and please can i like and share it i go to his profile and he's actually put together a 20 minute video of our date you can't really see my face but you can hear me he says my name several times and my car bridge is clearly visible at the end even worse is that he already has several hundred likes from his followers who have shared it to their own Instagram etc. He even gave it a title like XXC video guy with no name goes on a date and he filmed
Starting point is 00:21:02 the whole 20 questions thing by hiding his phone behind a menu. So I guess my am I being unreasonable is A, am I being unreasonable to be weirded out by this and B, is this focus on social media the new norm for dating? Am I being unreasonable for having gone out with Putipy? That is basically it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Hey, thanks for the date. Don't forget to smash that like button and hit subscribe. Like and subscribe. There's so much about this, I don't understand. These kids and their vlogging culture. Who would even watch that video? No, lots of people. It's called a parasocial relationship where viewers on YouTube feel a friendship
Starting point is 00:21:47 connection to someone that they've never met and this results in clicks and likes and subscribes and whatnot so YouTubeers tend to cultivate this kind of personality where they let people into their lives to such an extent that it's like a relationship yeah I guess it's just I'm not saying it's healthy no and it's not that it's more I just can't imagine it being interesting to watch a bit of clandestine filming an unedited 20-minute date and someone doesn't know they're being filmed. It just seems like it'd be a really bad video quality. And this person must be
Starting point is 00:22:23 sort of relatively well known to have people already, you know, sharing it and whatever, but... Yeah, you start out, like, making YouTube videos about films or video games or whatever, but then as you develop more of a personality and people are just following you because they feel this parasocial relationship with you,
Starting point is 00:22:41 you can just post any old shit. Like, go into the mechanics, lull. Before they make... up he was like oh yeah go and watch my videos go watch my videos like and subscribe before they've even been on a date why did she go on the date she's just automatic at this point he just sounds like an ass like if before you've even met someone they're like like like like and subscribe I'm not coming on this date and then he's filming when she gets there so why would you even stay like I would definitely I'm not
Starting point is 00:23:13 trying to victim blame here but like I just don't I can't comprehend why you immediately leave. I like to think at the end. It's getting to write up to the registration plate. Sitting in the centre of the shot. Zooming in and out in time to like a beep. And then, for one of the heinous crimes, I don't know why she even mentions
Starting point is 00:23:36 that he wanted to take a selfie with the weird dog earphil, so that seems perfectly normal compared to everything else that happens. I haven't even crossed my mind after all of this. I don't really need the selfie because he's got hours of footage. Oh, yeah. Of this date. He wanted to play this weird 20 questions about you game but said he wouldn't put it online if I don't want it,
Starting point is 00:23:55 which implies that he has told her other stuff is going online. It's like when you're with a journalist, you have to say when you're on the record and you're off the record. But the record is public, and it's going on YouTube. Like and subscribe. Yeah. Again, if I was on a date and some of me was like, oh yeah, we'll do this, but I won't put this online if you don't want.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I'd be like, hold up. Hold up. Has everything else been going online, and then I would leave. It just seems like there were loads of times where she should have left. Another thing. I went on a date with the YouTuber, and he filmed it all the way through. I thought this was unacceptable. Here's the audio from the date for my podcast.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Dates with bad men. It's a different thing. Very different thing. Podcast is fine. Don't forget to like and subscribe to Apple. how is it that within five minutes of him dropping her off the video is up but the video is 20 minutes long speedy editing
Starting point is 00:24:56 not editing at all that's what it is he's done no edit on it and it's all dodgy secret filming which is why I just think it would just be terrible quality yeah you need to do editing editing makes or breaks a YouTube video yeah H-bomber guy is a YouTuber that I sometimes watch because he's editing is very good so she's got two unreasonable too she's got, am I being unreasonable to be weirded out by this?
Starting point is 00:25:20 What are your thoughts? Uh, yes. And, uh... I don't think you should YouTube a first date. No, what date would you YouTube it? Fifth. Okay. That's the rule.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Fair enough. Um, and then her other question is, is this just how it is now? Yeah, it is. Everyone's on YouTube now. Go to get them clicks. Go to get them likes. Got to monetize yourself. Loads of people are saying that you should call the police.
Starting point is 00:25:46 People and moms are, always want to call the damn police, don't they? No, I think this is the new normal, but it's, it's bad. Yeah. There's a good podcast about films, but also sometimes about internet culture called Calling All Units. And Sean does a good job of explaining YouTube culture and its badness. Am I being unreasonable, irrationally enraged by colleagues' email signature?
Starting point is 00:26:11 Or is it inappropriate? I have a newish colleague who has his email set up to give his full name degree achieved masters followed by his job title this comes up in all internal emails and his job rarely involves sending external ones i think it's wonky and actually rude no one else does it and many have more qualifications than him people even comment on it and poke fun i hoped he would notice by now that it's not done and take it down it doesn't help that it comes up in really big letters after his normal sign-off. I'm his line manager
Starting point is 00:26:47 and wonder whether to tell him to take it off. But things aren't going well with him overall, so I don't want to look petty, or like, bullying. But fuck, who does that? This does sound wanky. Is it rude? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Depends on the formatting. Like if it's bald. She does say... Bold, 25 point red letters. She does say it comes up in really big letters after his normal sign. off. No, I think it is rude. I think he's a dick. I've got mixed feelings on this because I do think, yeah, no one cares about your postnoms, pal. Too relevant. But I do know places where it's
Starting point is 00:27:26 really the dumb thing to include your postnoms. And if he's come from one of those, and rather than his manager, gently saying very early on, oh, we don't do that here, just use your name. And she's just left it. Like, why has she just been getting herself more and more worked up rather than just saying, that's not the way that we do it here. Because it might just be that wherever he's worked before, they've been like, yeah, pop your post thumbs on there. Yeah, maybe. I mean, if he's to get all this education,
Starting point is 00:27:50 he can work it out for himself. Look at other people's signatures. How often do you go back and look at your own email signature? All the time. I don't pay any attention to my email signature anymore. I found out the other day that our house style is that our job title should be in sentence case, which looks wrong.
Starting point is 00:28:06 And my email signature obviously has my job title in, job title case because I'm not an idiot but it wasn't until somebody pointed out to me that my email signature was wrong because it should be in sentence case that I even thought about it because I don't go around reading my own email signature back so maybe he's just forgotten I don't know I'm not on his side I do think there's no reason to be putting yeah I think MSC at the end of your name chill out dude you get to put if you're a doctor you get to put doctor at the start that's it all right no one cares about your BA in classical studies yeah Do you know what? I really can't abide.
Starting point is 00:28:44 When you see it and it's like BA On's M-A-M-A-M-S-C and like M-B-A, you're like, why have you got so many, like, these aren't escalating. This just shows that you really enjoy learning, which is fine. Yeah, which is fine. But they're not going anywhere. There's no story. It's no trajectory to this.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Don't put it in your email signature. Yeah. I'm glad you've got all these degrees. Great. Okay, but I think the post-nombs is one thing. she also, what she says is set up to give his full name, degree achieved, followed by his job title. So I can't tell if she's also mad about the full name and the job title. Does she think that he should just be signing off with like, I don't know, let's say that his name is David, like, blah, blah, d.
Starting point is 00:29:30 D-X. Yeah. X. No, I mean, you need to put your full name in your email signature. You need to put your job title and we put a dress in ours for some reason as if anyone's going to mail us something. You get an email and you're like, okay, I'll start my correspondence in return.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Very good. Dear sir, I write in regard to your email of the 27th. I hope this finds you well. No, but you know, you need those basic things for how to contact you. You don't need all your degree shit. No, you don't. Or your certifications, Or, I don't, like, I hate email signatures that have a little JPEG or whatever of customer service excellence that the company's won.
Starting point is 00:30:17 They've obviously made all the employees put in. It's a waste of space. You end up with a signature that's longer than the message. Yeah. And that's nonsense. Or if it comes through to, like, your phone or whatever, and you're not getting it in HTML, all of those things come through as attachments. And you're like, oh, this person sent me loads of attachments. And you open them.
Starting point is 00:30:36 and it's just like investing in people. Like, no. Yeah, I don't care that your company's investing in people. I care about the content of your message, not the rapper. It does suggest that there is no like standard email sign off at this place. Maybe they should do that. I've got a couple of other things. I feel like we've got really fixed on this issue with the masters.
Starting point is 00:30:57 And I think there's other stuff going on. Why is she enraged? She can be like, oh, this guy. But enraged, it's such a strong work. describe myself as enraged. I would roll my eyes. Yeah. And then go back to my life, do some cocaine. She said, oh, people even comment on it and poke fun, but she's made no effort to mention this to him, where I feel like that would be the kind thing to do. It's to say, like, it's not part of our company culture. Don't include those. And move on. She can't, though,
Starting point is 00:31:25 because as a line manager, it's not going well. Yeah. I'm his line manager and wonder whether to tell him, but things aren't going well with him overall. So I don't want to look petty or, like, bullying, which really makes me wonder if she's been doing some petty bullying alongside this particular issue. What is going on? I want backstory. What's not going well? I just think he's a dweeb, so it's really easy to bully him. You're his manager. Why don't you just explain to him that it's not part of the company culture, like I said? Yeah. I think that makes sense. Very much people saying, if anyone has the power to change this, it's the line manager. Yeah, and people saying, Why, if you let this go on for so long, let yourself get so worked up?
Starting point is 00:32:06 Why don't you give him the benefit of the doubt the first time you saw it? Give him a gentle nudge and say, this isn't how we do it. Yeah, he sounds like an arse. Anyone who's really keen to tell you about all their qualifications. Whatever. But, I do think it's entirely plausible he's come from somewhere where you're supposed to do that. And I do think that his manager should really have told him rather than letting everyone poke fun at him. So, yeah, just because someone does something annoying, doesn't mean this woman's not an arsehung.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I know someone who I went to uni with who got business cards made up when he graduated that said he's full name and then M.A. Ons. But like they didn't say anything else because he just graduated. He had no business. He had no job title. Yeah, this is nothing. I'm not even sure they had contact details on now that I think about it.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Just his name and then M.A. Ons. And as someone who has an M.A. Ons, it is the most complicated qualification to explain to people because they're like, why has your master's got honours? Where's your bachelor's? What is this? Is this a real degree? Like, yeah, it's a master's, but also it incorporates the bachelor's, and it's kind of, it's a four-year Scottish degree, okay?
Starting point is 00:33:12 So this guy that I knew just had a card made up with a really confusing. It's not good. I have to explain that on the car, on the reverse of the card. Less of a card more of an A4 piece of paper. Like a greeting card. A prompt sheet, if you were. Do we do one more speed round? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Am I being unreasonable to be worried about social housing? No. Am I being unseasonous? Uncharacteristically serious? Am I being unreasonable?
Starting point is 00:33:44 Or is Megyn Markle trying to undermine the Duchess of Cambridge? Having a baby? Apparently so. Yeah, probably. Am I being unreasonable? My dad wouldn't give me a cream egg. Yeah, he is being unreasonable. Cream eggs are great.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Yeah. and am I being unreasonable to think being late isn't a quirky personality trait no being late isn't annoying and rude and I think the more you make it out to be a quirky personality trait the worse it is yeah and then the final one which ties into something from a previous episode am I being unreasonable to think you don't call or refer to your parents-in-law as mum and dad no it seems legit seems legit should we stop there yeah cool happy Easter everyone yeah happy Easter have a good time I hope you get lots of eggs with faces painted on them and crest growing out of them.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Anything else would be obscene. I hope you get lots of cheese eggs, but not from the looks of Sainsbury's. Yeah, if you make a nice Easter roast... Put it in a sandwich. Yeah, but don't forget, a little ramic in a gravy. For dipping. For dipping. Bye!

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