You Are Being Unreasonable - 055 - In which we ponder about what happened to the Jacobites

Episode Date: October 10, 2019

"Just post a picture of you going about your business but wearing a T-shirt that says 'My body; my choice' and people will tell you what choices they would make about your body." You know what we need? Men's opinions! This week, we solicit men's opinions on women's physical attractiveness. Great stuff and not problematic at all. We also discuss those beautiful and smooth seal models; Helen gets into her thoughts on roast-ownership and whether you should have macaroni cheese on a roast dinner; we lawyer up to get a refund on some clothing that doesn't flatter us; we wonder which Pied Piper-like figure took away all the Emos; and we determine what teenagers are into these days that aren't Zach Braff and Keane. Tickets are now available for our December live show at the Boulevard Theatre in Soho, London on Sunday 8th December at 18:30. Book now! https://boulevardtheatre.co.uk/whats-on/sunday-service-podcasts-8-december/

Hello, driving on drugs feels better when they're prescription. All I know, the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, right now. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I feel that day. Hello.

Hello, welcome to You Are Being Unreasonable, a podcast about people being Unreasonable, on mumsnet.com. Yep, coming to you live from our living room, as always. We tried to make a blanket fort because we'd heard that was really good for sound quality. Like audio professionals, like Ira Glass, you know, your Scott Ockermanns, the McElroy brothers. Ed Miliband, you know.

Yeah, the big, the big podcasters. Also some women. Yeah, I was about to say it's terrible that all those people are men. But, yeah, the blanket thought was not entirely successful. No, it was terrible. It's very heavy. It's real heavy because it's winter. Yeah, the winter do they are.

And it was quite dark. It was real dark. So I'm very pro-blanket thoughts, and I'm very pro-making this podcast, but sometimes I think too much of a good thing. We need a bigger blanket and more light under the blanket. It's a lamps. Hmm. What we need is a padded cell.

I've been going through these boards for a long time now, and I think a padded cell is well on the way to being necessary. Shall we do a speed round? Am I being unreasonable to think learning to swim butterfly is pointless. Yeah, butterflies can't actually swim, so why would you want to do a move named after them? That's a good point. And am I being unreasonable, best ever singer. Best ever singer, Rod Stewart. Decisive, okay, let's do a thread, shall we?

Am I being unreasonable, to ask for a man's opinion, please. I'm about forcey, slim, but not skinny, and facially, decent. I've got to the age where I could easily start worrying about new wrinkles, greying hair, and the unforgiving force of gravity. My natural approach would be, stay slim, avoid grey hair, dress in a way that flatters my figure. But then not to obsess about it, to leave the house with a smile and a positive, confident attitude. Is this enough to still be regarded as attractive? I don't want to nip and tuck myself like so many people I know, but my fear is that people will compare me. to these younger-looking smoother models.

I'm a happy person, full of joy and confidence. But is that enough in today's world? Thanks for your thoughts. You're a man, right? This person wants a man's opinion. Yeah, and I think you're in the wrong place, for starters. If you want a man's opinion, you just need to go on Twitter and post anything.

Yeah. Anything about the MCU, for example. You'll get a man's opinion. Right quick. If you want a man's opinion on your attractiveness, maybe post something about women's rights and they will jump right in to tell you whether or not you're fuckable. Exactly. Like, just post a picture of you, going about your business, but wearing a t-shirt that says, like, I don't know, my body, my choice.

And then people will tell you what choices they would make about your body. Yeah. You'll get all the answers you need. You can get a man's opinion very easily. You barely have to go out your house. That is quite damning, isn't it, though, that if this person is not getting any men's opinions, maybe they've become invisible when it's too late. All of the staying slim and avoiding grey hair in the world.

I mean, it really reads like a weird stealth boast. Like, I'm going to come on mums there and tell everyone that I'm attractive. But not that attractive, just a normal amount of attractive in a sort of low maintenance way. Yeah. And I'm sure people are mums that will be really pleased to hear about that. And I'll get lots of constructive and positive responses. I will simply stay slim. I will simply avoid grey hairs.

Yeah. I'll simply stay beautiful. I've been going grey since I was 18. No one told me that I could have just avoided that. Yeah, you just go avoid them. Dressing a way that flatters my figure seems like the one you have the most control over. But, you know, her theory is that people will compare her to these younger looking smoother models. Yeah.

Now, I think you're thinking of seals. Do they have whiskers? Do they frolic by the beach? Do they eat fish? You're thinking of seals. One thing I will say is you will always be less grey than a seal. So there's that. Yeah, seals have lots of grey hair

Yeah They're little whiskers for one You'll never be as grey as a seal So you're winning As smooth as a seal Wow You could probably be slimmer than a seal Yeah probably

Yeah I don't think seals aim for slimness though They don't dress in ways That flatter their figure I think seals are very Like body positive Big Fat Seal is totally body positive You know what

If there's one thing that we've learnt From this thread is that maybe I'm going to channel my inner seal And I'm going to be like Ah fuck it Seals play in the water without shame. I could do that, yeah. I can't balance a beach ball on my nose,

but it's good to have dreams and things to aspire to. Yeah. Yeah. So what we've learned is don't ask Mumsnet for a man's opinion on your attractiveness, but do be more like a seal. The seals break clams on their little bellies, and these are otters. I think that might be otters.

Oh, that's a shame. But I'm not 100% sure. I just think a seal's belly is probably too soft, but with the big fat seal being body positive thing. Is seal a term in the LGBT community in the same way that Otter is? Let's look it up. Well, when you look up Seal LGBT, what you get is the Wikipedia page for Kristen Beck. A retired United States Navy SEAL.

Yeah, Kristen Beck is a trans woman. Oh, great. So, I'm glad that somehow we've managed to make a mom-set thread about a trans woman for no reason. That would upset people, which is good. Shall we hear from the thread? Unless you can invent a time machine, I would suggest that you accept that you are no longer 25. You absolutely can be attractive, but you will never look young again. Heavens. Grums. She's just going to stay slim. Avoid grey hairs.

Dress in a way that flatters her figure. These are simple steps that every woman can do. I don't want to compete with 25-year-olds at all. That time has truly passed. I'm competing with other 40-year-old women who are getting their boobs done. Faces filled. Boobobs done, faces filled, etc. I'd love to know what the etc. is. Yeah. I want my boobs done. my face filled and I want a bionic arm.

Filled with what? Cheese? Jelly babies. Your face filled with... 40-year-old women who aren't worried about staying slim who were just there gauding on cheese. Yeah, fill your face with cheese. As long as you've got giant confidence.

Oh, goodness me. Should we move on? I'm being unreasonable. Macaroni cheese on a roast. Done. Stop. Fine. Okay, I'm going to find another thread for later then.

Several of my friends are having macaroni. cheese on a roast dinner. Is this the norm? Plastered all over social media. I've heard of cauliflower cheese, but never ever heard of macaroni cheese. I'm actually horrified. It looks disgusting, crying, laughing emoji. Now, Hells, you've talked in the past about your aversion to roast dinners. Oh yeah, very vocally. I am not here for a roast. I don't begrudge anyone else a roast. I just don't ever want a roast of my own. Yeah. You don't want a roast of your own. That's not what you aspire to. No. You don't aspire to someday be a

roast owner, get a mortgage and own your own roast. I'm quite happy renting the roast. But I don't want to rent a roast either. If anyone has a service where you can rent a roast, don't waste any advertising time on me. I'm not going to rent your roast. I'm not going to buy a roast.

This is why we're not getting those big roast books that the other podcasts are getting. Yeah, they're all being sponsored by rent a roast. The roaster rental company. I usually skip over the ads, but when I don't, it's roast back to back. Roasts.com mattresses. Download real British roasts online with roasts.com. Get 100 nights free with this roast.

Get a roast delivered to you day or night within 30 minutes. Yeah, I mean, a lot of those meal kits will probably deliver you the component parts of a roast. What if you did a meal kit service, like Blue Apron, that was just roast? every bucks. It's the same roast. People would go wild for that. Roast ownership and roast forts aside. Anyway, macaroni cheese.

Yeah, I was going to ask, as someone who wouldn't even want a roast, would you want a macaroni cheese roast? So here's the thing. I like the idea of having macaroni cheese, but the idea of having macaroni cheese with a roast seems like taking things that don't belong together. Yeah. And it comes back to my normal grievance with roast,

which is there are better and nicer ways to prepare those vegetables. And I think you can bake a macaroni cheese that's got vegetables in it that would be delicious. And gravy? Oh, macaroni cheese and gravy seems all wrong. Too much, like, oh, would you eat macaroni cheese and gravy? I'd give it a go. How different could it be to chips and cheese and gravy? Well, that's what I was just thinking.

Or like puteen, a Canadian delicacy. Yeah. I don't know, it just feels different because the cheese on those, is solid cheese that maybe melts with the heat, but it's not a cheese sauce. It just feels like sauce on sauce. Yeah, we joke around here a lot on you being unreasonable, but let me turn my chair around and be serious for a moment. You do that like every second episode.

We don't joke around anywhere near as much as we should for something we bill as a comedy. We don't joke here on you have been unreasonable. But I joked that this would be great, but having thought about it, I think there's too much going on. Yeah. You've got too many flavors altogether, and the gravy would just overwhelm a lot of the macaroni cheese flavor. It would, wouldn't it? Like, you wouldn't have pasta in gravy.

You wouldn't boil up some pemo, and then for the sauce, have gravy. No. But let me hit you with this. Macaroni cheese in a Yorkshire pudding. Right. I'm done. Okay. It's just macaroni cheese and a Yorkshire pudding.

It's like a bread bowl. Like a macaroni pie, but with the Yorkshire pudding. I just invented the macaroni pie. Oh, beans. That would exist. Okay, let's try this one. So it's a macaroni pie, but it's got gravy on it. Fine.

So it's only when you take away the pie bit. It's once the macaroni's free-flowing. Free flowing. If it's contained, you don't mind it having gravy on it, but if it's on a plate loose, free-ranging. I said I'd try that. Oh, yeah. But you did then say that it was too much

and the gravy would overwhelm stuff. On the roast. Okay, yeah. Because of all the broccoli and your carrots and your roasties and all that. Yeah. Does the macaroni cheese substitute the carbs portion? Does it substitute the roasties? I don't know.

A roast doesn't seem like a thing where you'd worry about moderation or carbs. It's like that's the only element of a roast I can get on board with it seems like the time when people stop policing food as a society. They say macaroni cheese on a roast dinner. So is it just macaroni cheese poured all over the whole thing? Like a lasagna. Oh. And then baked.

Oh. Oh, no, like a roast pasta bait. Let's go back to what this woman has said is actually happening. Several of my friends are having macaroni cheese on a roast dinner. It's plastered all over social media. Well, I haven't seen it on social media, but I don't have Instagram, and I don't really go on Facebook. I only really go on Twitter, which is not the medium for pictures of roasts, really. All I've found is the very mum's net thread that we are reading.

Someone said it's quite common for West Indian people to have macaroni cheese. with a roast dinner and then someone said at the Toby Carverie they have macaroni cheese so truly an international sensation they do have it at Toby Carverie though because when we were going on holiday there was some talk of going to a carvering and I was a bit worried about that because I have quite um quite a big rooster version yeah but I did look up the carvery menu in advance to work out what I could eat so that it didn't become an overwhelming thing and it definitely had macaroni cheese on there but as a main course yeah it's like It's not like saying if you go to the Toby Carfrey, you can get fish and chips, therefore fish and chips is a side for a roast.

Like, just because something is available at the Toby Carfrey, doesn't mean... Doesn't mean you have to pour it onto your roast. Yeah, like, they probably sell wine, but you wouldn't pour that all over your roast. Yeah, I was going to say, they do coke, but you don't make a roast out of coke. Oh, most people on the thread are saying that it sounds wrong, except people saying that's pretty standard as a Jamaican Sunday lunch. Hmm. So, there we go. Cultural differences. How interesting. on the old world. Shall we do another thread?

Am I being unreasonable to want to return this? Here for traffic, any lawyers around? I bought an item of clothing at a show yesterday. There were no items available to try on. I got home and it looks terrible on me. The storeholder has outright refused a refund and says there was a sign clearly stating no refunds. I'd normally let something like this go,

but I run a business and bend over backwards to ensure clients are happy, and this comes at the end of a run of show. shoddy customer service. Does anyone know what my rights are? Google not helping. The reason I pitched this is they say, here for traffic, any lawyers around, and their username is any lawyers around. And all they want to do is return a piece of clothing. Like, it's been a while. Going straight to litigation seems a bit much. Chill out. The boards have been slightly less odd than normal for the last few weeks, but no, these litigious bitches are back. And this time they

want a refund. Oh no. What the hell? Are you going to lawyer up because something didn't flatter you? Do you think it's the same person as the other post? This is flying in the face of their long-term plans where flattering clothes avoid grays and stay slim. Yeah, that was the plan. But then they went to their stall, got this outfit that looked terrible on them once they got it home.

Yeah. And, yeah, now they want to return it. And get a refund, not just return it. Yeah. Unfortunately, there was a sign that said no refund. so it's like a grey area but it's a lot darker it's more of a black area this is just a black area yeah and it's clear what's wrong is that you bought from a stall that doesn't do refunds yeah so there's no refunds so no I'm not surprised that Google's not helping they're a big

company and they're not interested in getting their lawyers on the case for you What do you think they googled? I don't think they googled anything. Like I say, I think they called Google, said, hey, can you get your lawyers on this? You must have lawyers. Yeah, you've got big lawyers. You're big Google. Got a job for them.

Yeah. Call the boys out of retirement. They say I'd normally let something like this go, but you can bet your ass they wouldn't. They'd never let anything go in their life. They username's any lawyers around. I run a business Yeah Oh who cares

She runs a business And bends over backwards To ensure clients are happy Yeah but she is an acrobat So That is her business That's how she stays slim Yeah

Yeah it's just a business Where you hire an acrobat She comes in bends over backwards It shows the clients are happy 20 quid for an hour If that was a real service I'd hire an acrobat for 20 quid for an hour

just to like come around to the flat or a bit swung in the flat maybe just to come to a local pub it's just a great business because you can your slogan can be we bend over backwards for you yeah and that's just great that just works the the end of a run of shoddy customer service is that a run of shoddy customer service from the stoolholder or from her from her in an acrobat thing going into people's houses bending forwards taking the 20 pounds and leaving even. Bending just far enough to pick up the cash. Yeah.

While wearing a t-shirt that says no refunds. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you run your own business, and if you had put up a sign saying, I won't give you a refund, and then someone wanted one, what would you do in that position? It sounds like they would claim that they would give a refund. I'm doubtful of that, TBH, but... Does anyone know what my rights are? Well, in this regard, oh, no.

You don't have any particular rights here. It has always going on about their rights. People are moms that love to know what their rights are, and they think all their rights are sex-based. And they just imagine that anything that they might enjoy must be a right. No one loves human rights more than I do. I'm on record as saying that. Well, I mean, that shouldn't be controversial,

but look at the voting records of so many people in Parliament, on all sides. Talk about consumer rights really obfuscates the actual rights discussions that we should be having about freedom and. liberty, because we're so focused on what we're allowed to do when we buy something within the mechanics of capitalism. Yeah. Now, we joke around a lot on this podcast, and I don't like to get serious. But let me talk about capitalism and our complicity in it.

Someone said, tough luck, I'm afraid. It sounds like poor business practice to be so rigid. Well, if this person's a travelling stallholder, I think it's fucking fine, isn't it? It's not. It's not poor business. If you put, you can't have a refund, then you can't have a refund. You can't just say that the sign should just not exist because you don't like it. Yeah, the sign does exist.

They put it up in advance, you knew there was no refunds, you bought it anyway. Yeah. And now it looks terrible on you, but you have to wear that terrible outfit every day. Yeah. Your attitude to customer service is a million times more sensible than hers, but legally she is fine not to accept non-faulty refunds. But if she's a travelling salesperson, it's not like she's going to get repeat custom. It's not like

this per... Oh my word. And people think their money is so bloody valuable. People are so convinced that their money is the money that makes a difference. It's like, I used to have a job where people would be like, I'm a member! And they'd be like, well, I'm canceling my membership, so good luck. It's like, I don't think that our

world famous 100 year or 200 year old museum is going to go under because you stop giving us £60 a year. People think their own money is the most valuable money in the world. That's £60 to you is a lot of money. because it's your money, but on balance, in the bigger picture, it's not. So that's why the people don't care about it the same way you do. Yeah, I love boycotting things, Coca-Cola, Nestle, etc.

But I don't bang on about it. Also, boycotting something is very different, isn't it? It's not like you buy Coca-Cola simply so you can return it. Yeah, that would be silly. I'm going to go out and buy a can of Coke to return later. You're not being unreasonable to want to return it. You are being unreasonable trying to get it. legal advice, it's done, she doesn't owe you anything, she's trying to learn a living. Is this

really worth the fight? No. I'm a legal assistant. I would give her bad publicity and see how she reacts. Can you do it online anonymously? If someone insults you, you must make an anonymous account and hound them mercilessly. Yeah, that sounds... That sounds like bad legal advice? That sounds like what the person who used to run our local forum did. When the person who used to run our local forum, just set up loads of sock puppet accounts to hound people. And their most recent sock puppet account, which is the one when they got found out, was a fake Jamaican bakery called Flavor Baker, where they posted things like hashtag patties, hashtag mandem, because it's a white person who is very racist. Yeah, the most disappointing part of this, after the

racism, is that we're not getting a new Jamaican bakery in the area. To be honest, and lots of us thought we were. We do have a Jamaican bakery in the area, and I don't know how many of the people who were disappointed to find out we weren't getting another one who've ever been to the first one. So what should have come with this is an influx of new customers for the original Jamaican bakery. Maybe they sell macaroni cheese to go with your patties. Am I being unreasonable to wonder what happened to emo's? Is anyone else young slash old enough to have gone through an emo phase back in the 2002 to 2007 period? You know, heavy eyeliner, boys with side fringes, black skinny jeans, studded belts, cool band

t-shirts and all the angsty music that usually talked about broken hearts and self-harm. It was such a huge thing at my secondary school. You don't see teenagers like that anymore. It wasn't just a few quirky people. Whenever I speak to friends of a similar age, we all seem to have gone through a phase like that. Clearly, the UK slash the world moved on from it. But it's just like that subculture has totally disappeared.

I realise this is probably how people feel about the 80s, etc., and the various subcultures. Do they not exist anymore? Or have I just grown up? You don't see anymore? You don't see the mods anymore? You don't see the mods? Where have they gone? However, in 2006, 2007, I did know a teenage boy who was not an emo because he was a mod. He told everyone that his nickname was Moddy Doc, but I don't know a single person who called him Moddy Doc. You know what? You don't see Flapper Girls anymore. What are the Flapper Girls? We all went through that phase, but where did...

They're the flappergills now. You know, in that period from sort of 1922 to 1927. Help, hell, you know, you don't see the Jacobites anymore. Where are the Jacobites nowadays? We're all in through that jacobite phase, but where have they gone? Where are they? It wasn't just a few quirky people either, wasn't. No, it was loads of people.

The whole mess of things doing things. else you know what you don't see anymore is a renaissance artist there were loads of them for about a hundred years and all the renaissance artists disappeared we all went through the phase Michelangelo where have they all got why don't you see them anymore

this is the most stupid you have ever been ever be. Oh my bad. You know what I really enjoy about this? I realise this is probably how people feel about the 80s. Being emo, is that the same as the 80s? Same thing. Same thing. The 80s wasn't just a phase everyone went through. It was a real period of time.

I remember when I tried to be emo turning up with my cool band t-shirts, Coldplay. Hey kids Keeve Got a whole load of these Snow Patrol Two words ladies Snow Patrol

Two more words Chasing Cars Nice Oh yeah I've been listening to The Feeling My word I forgot about the feeling You know

Heavy eyeliner boys with side fringes Black skinny jeans studded belts, cool band t-shirts. I think all those things still exist in isolation. It's just rare you see someone who's rocking all of them together. Combined anymore, because that's not the fashion now. No, it's not the fashion anymore. It's like there's a bit in The Simpsons where Grandpa's talking about something.

And he says, we wore an onion on our belt because that was the style at the time. As was the style at the time. Yeah. It just feels like that. All this angsty music that usually talks about broken hearts and self-harm. and didn't exist prior to 2002. No one ever had a broken heart before 2002, not even during the phase that we call the 80s.

Now, Joy Division, what? No, they sang about joy. Various unknown pleasures, from what I understand. It wasn't music about self-harm. It was such a huge thing at my secondary school. I wonder what this person's, like, doing with their life right now that made them stop, think, you don't see a lot of emoes anymore. And then think,

I'll ask mum's there. One day you just look outside and there's no emo's out there and you realise the world has changed. It's all that climate change. You need to stay slim, avoid grey hairs, where dresses that suit of your figure. Because there's no emoes anymore. They're dying off.

Yeah, like the polar bears. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's too warm most of the time for skinny jeans and a big fringe that covers you. Yeah. You can't be emo with a tan. No. No.

Awful. Looks weird, doesn't it? I mean, Marlin, Manson's still around. It wasn't really emo, was it? Tim Burton still exists. Hang on, there's been like a huge, huge myochemical romance renaissance. It's this person not on Twitter. We all remember the emoes. We're all there. We love Gerard Way. Yeah, we all remember. Yeah. Banger. When he was a young boy, his father, took him into the city. Does he a marching band? We remember. How was there? He said, son, when you grow up.

Where were you when the Black Parade came to town? I like this person still thinks that emoes were quirky. I imagine this person doesn't spend much time around teenagers. Yeah, because none of us spend as much time around teenagers as we did at secondary school. Yeah, because we're the wrong age for that. It's not like we would have teenage kids. So I don't know what the teens are into. Probably, you know, Zach Brath.

No. I might start a thread saying, what happened to Zach Brath? He was huge when I was at secondary school. Oh yeah, scrubs, garden state. Yeah. Then what? Is this just a phase, like the 80s? First the 80s, then emoes.

Then Zach Brath. Yeah. Things are just disappearing. Now, emo's died with Avril Levine. Oh yeah, Avril Levine died according to that conspiracy theory. According to that truth. My emo granddaughter is now in her 20s and about to become a mom. Like all fashion faces, kids grow up and become normal human beings again.

Emo's were normal human beings. Let's just get that out of the way. Yeah, but I think there was a lot of moral panic at the time. because there were songs about, you know, being sad. There were always moral panic. Yeah, but I think emo's were the moral panic of the time. Yeah. I'm not, I don't believe that emo's invented anything.

Is there a moral panic now? Yeah, but it's all about... I guess it's about Tidepods. Remember when the teenagers were going to meet Tide Puds? I remember when the teenagers went to Area 51. Yeah, this is the moral panic. Yeah. All those dumb teens from Tumblr going to Area 51.

Do you remember Momo? Momo was a problem for the teens. Oh, that scary chicken lady. Who didn't exist? Yeah. Yep. Yeah, this is the mole panic. Kids nowadays love Momo, Area 51, Tidepods.

They still exist. I had seven of them in my house last Saturday. The girl version, rather than the boy version. Makes it sound like some sort of weird doll that you can buy. Like Pokemon. Yeah. You either get the girl version or the boy version. Collect them all.

I wonder how long it takes for them to become the big Christmas toy that everyone wants. I want the girl version of emo I want an emo Yeah it comes with little changeable outfits And it says rah Yeah cool band t-shirts Someone said I preferred screamo It's good to know people never grow up

Emo slash grunger here Unfortunately now I am a mum And a bit fat and not very cool Okay I do like it when you see like a grunger There are a couple of people who I knew when I was at school And I still know now And if any of us ever see a grunger

We let each other know I saw a grunger I still don't wear jeans that fit me I'm still in that baggy gene phase of grunge Is that a style choice Or is that just that you've got some jeans So why would you get any more jeans

Yeah these perfectly good jeans Yeah fair So where did the emoes go We don't know No one can follow them It's like the pipe piper of Hamlin He came to town He led the emos away

We wouldn't pay him So now they're in his mountain cave or whatever I don't remember the story The emo's got hit quite hard by the Ian Watkins thing, didn't they? Like, probably a lot of people out there with lost profits tattoos who were desperately hoping everyone forgets emo's ever existed. Yeah.

Yeah. Bad times. But, like I say, my chemical romance, they're having a comeback. And the wee lad from Panic at the disco is big on Broadway now. Great. Whatever emo aspire to. All those emoes with little dreams of being on Broadway. Well, I mean, I think it's nice.

Should we do one more speed round? Am I being unreasonable to think Manchester Airport are discriminating? No, they actively discriminate against southerners. Amma being unreasonable to ask for more? No, please. May I have some more, yeah. Amma being unreasonable to not bother organising anything because nobody comes? No, if no one comes, why bother? Yeah.

And am I being unreasonable to want to gush about my crush. No, go ahead. Go ahead. Tell us about your crush. Tell us all about your crush. brush. Yeah, who is it? Spill the beans. It's like the dishy dermot O'Leary off the TV. Oh, he's a bit dishy, isn't he? Oh, he is good.

Oh, dishy. But it'd be really nice. We have a live show coming up. We've got a live show at the Boulevard Theatre. On Sunday the 8th of December. Yeah, it's at 6.30. And tickets are available for booking now on the Boulevard video website. Yeah, can we put that link in the info for this episode?

Don't see why not. Cool, we'll do that then. Yeah, do come along. It's a Christmas episode and our Christmas live shows are great because Christmas is a time when people on mum's there lose their minds. Yeah, we're very pleased to be on their podcast bill alongside podcast like standard issue. Show stoppers. Show stopers. That's all sorts of incredible stuff on there.

The freelance podcast. Adonting. Yeah, there's all kinds of things and we're very pleased. Yeah. We're also going to be donating part of the profits to mermaids. Yeah, so we don't. make this podcast to make money and I feel bad about the fact that I send traffic to a board that is hosted by a website with another board that is notoriously hateful. So to make up for that in some

small way, we're going to donate some of our profits to mermaids to say, we think you're great and sorry about sending traffic to mumsnet.com. Please do come along. It would be lovely to have you there. Yeah. I've started writing film reviews for Take One magazine. Yeah. It's exciting. So go on take one cinema.net, just search for take one cinema, and yeah, read my film reviews. No, there's a beautiful review of The Farewell, and it was a wonderful film, and I think Simon's review really does justice to how magnificent it is. Oh, go on. Very lovely review. Definitely go and read it.

Yeah, so, thanks for listening. Thank you for listening. Bye. Right now, right now.