You Are Being Unreasonable - 060 - In which we find BiggerJugs.co.uk indelibly inscribed on our bank statements

Episode Date: December 19, 2019

"Why not trickle out your truths over the Christmas dinner table?" It's been a tough week but we're still here to bring community, solidarity, and hope through the medium of a snarky podcast about Mumsnet. This week, we meet our favourite new recurring character, Trickle Truth the festive fairy who drip-feeds truths, and we talk about offensive company names for banterous lads, using 'partner' to describe your husband or wife and what 'other half' refers to, people filming in houses without the homeowner's permission and the possibility of being Home Alone-d, look at IMDb's incorrectly-regarded-as-goofs section, and, unsurprisingly, we get political with some chat about negotiating salaries and the importance of collective organising to improve pay and conditions in the workplace. 

Hello, driving on drugs feels better when they're prescription. All I know, the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, right now. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day. Hello.

Hello, welcome to your being unreasonable, a podcast about people being, being unreasonable on mumsnet.com. It's been a tough week, but we're back, we're here to stay, we're here to make each other laugh, and make other people laugh, and no one can take that away from us. I've seen a lot of things saying, you know, at this point we only have each other. The big society's a shit idea, but that's the way it's got to be, and our contribution is this podcast. Yeah.

Among other things. Now, we like doing this podcast, we like our little group of listeners who've built up around it. I think we've made a really nice echo chamber with this podcast. It's a nice community and community is what we need right now It is, it really is So let's look at another community The Mum's Net community

It's a difficult speed round Because everyone on the boards is still wanging on about the election Which is fair, obviously it affects us for five years But it doesn't need to clog up all of Mum's Net for five years Does it? Come on now, come on now girls So let's try and do a speed round where I don't touch on those ones Okay, am I being unreasonable? Is beer a man's drink? No, you don't.

drink beer, I don't drink beer. It's true. We work it out. Am I being unreasonable to think raps are shit? Yeah, some raps are great. Am I being unreasonable? Just found out my D.H. was a virgin. Okay. Maybe he's not anymore. Everyone was a virgin at some point. Yeah. It's a good point, hells. And am I being unreasonable? A couple outraged they were paying more in waitrose than Aldi. Oh, an outrage. I don't know what you. Imagine paying more in waitrose, the high-end supermarket. Than Aldi? Than Aldi.

The bargain supermarket. The bargain supermarket. Just saying, I went to Liddle on my way home this evening, and I bought some tiny ravioli filled with truffle for £1.59. Amazing. Amazing. I don't think they even sell that at waitrose. Quality and price, I don't know.

Let's do a thread, shall we? Quality and quantity for this bucket of truffle oil. Exactly, I bought a vat of truffle oil And after this, I'm gonna bathe in it, I'm not You'll make your skin very smooth I've had enough of austerity, I bathe in truffle oil Yeah, we're embracing it Self-care

Basing in truffle oil as radical self-care Am I being unreasonable When people use partner to describe their O-H, if he is your DH, say so in the first place People will twigily say partner in describing a problem, then trickle truth much further down that they're actually married. Or, say, other half, then trickle truth pages later that they are unmarried. It completely changes the situation advice-wise, FFS. Am I being unreasonable? It's me. Trickle-truth. The festive Christmas fairy.

Hello, trickle-truth. Hello, I trickle-truth all over the place in December. Yeah, is this like how we used to talk about John McDonnell just blowing socialism dust, nationalisation dust on things. I'm trickle-truth. But instead we got the hero that we deserved. Trickle-Truth who just spills the truth where you didn't want it.

I'm not on Twitter. Goodbye. Thanks, trickle-truth. Sorry I didn't interact with you. Yeah. Yeah, trickle-truth is a funny phrase that is repeatedly used. it as if it's a thing. I don't think it's a thing.

No. And then, right, he told me a trickle truth. Does she mean a drip feed? I think she means drip feed. But, you know, when you can't remember a phrase and you get close enough to it and you're like, ah, screw it. The real phrase is never going to come to me now. I'll just go with this one.

Yeah, petition to use trickle truth from 2020 onwards. Yeah, sure. The trickle truth is like one of those Japanese mascots. Yeah. I don't know what trickle truth would look like. Why not submit your designs? We assume you're all free over Christmas. Enter our trickle truth contest.

If your family are getting on your nerves or saying things that you find hurtful, why not just pretend to be listening, but really be drawing trickle truth and then submitting it to this, a tiny podcast. Why not trickle out your truths over the Christmas dinner table? Oh no, I would advise not doing that over the Christmas dinner table. that's not the time. Christmas is a time for lies. Lies and half-truths. Otherwise, it gets ugly. Oh, that's a very interesting story, of course. Oh, I don't think any of your views are problematic. That's what you say at Christmas. And then the moment you're out the door, don't just trickle the truth.

Just waterfall it. I don't understand. I didn't realize that the phrase other half meant you had to be married. I do think the phrase partner often is used by people who are unmarried but have been together a very long time or are older and feel like the phrase boyfriend or girlfriend might not suit them but if someone described the person they were married to like their spouse as their partner partners are much more normal word than spouse if someone kept telling about their spouse I would wonder if they were trying to let on that it was a visa arrangement My spouse. Yeah.

Or if it was someone they were separated from. Estranged. Yeah. Like a strange spouse. I feel like we've talked about this before on this podcast. I think spouse is a super weird phrase. If someone said partner and they were married, I'd be like, oh, okay, whatever. It's more normal than saying spouse.

Yeah. If you're married to someone and you want a non-gender term, then partner works. Partner is good. Creepy. Don't like it. Yeah. Partner, companion, best buddy. Companion sounds like what you'd say if you were being coy about being an 83-year-old lesbian.

Confirmed bachelors have companions. Yeah. Elderly women who've been going on cruises together for the last six decades have companions. Companions seems like what you would say if you were trying not to trickle the truth over Christmas dinner. Well, how is it with your companion who you live with in your one-bedroom house? I don't understand what actual marital state has. has to do with this because most of the problems we deal with here on the mumsnet boards are like minor domestic problems and it doesn't matter if they are married or unmarried because they

live together and share a life together so what's it matter? It matters a great deal to the very judgy people. I could see how it would matter if it was about like splitting up and needing to know what happens to your assets or your children but I feel like a lot of that would be explained wouldn't it? Because if you were going to go to mum's net for advice on what to do about ending your relationship where you've got shared assets and children, you probably would give all the information. It's more

likely that you'd be using partner or other half if you were complaining that someone finished all the sausages. Yeah, and it doesn't matter there, because it's immaterial whether you're actually married or not. Yeah, yeah. Who cares? I use partner to describe you. Yeah, I've used partners to describe you before, definitely. I wouldn't use other half, because I don't

like it as a phrase, but if someone else does, that's fine, wouldn't bother me, and I wouldn't assume they were married. No, my other half is my lower half, like from my tummy down. Why are you othering the bottom part of your body? That's super weird. This is the main half, and this is the other half. Tell that to walking. Tell that to walking.

So sassy. I'm so affronted on behalf of the concept of walking. Hey, I just think it's weird to other your legs like that. Not just your legs, also your bum, and more. But wait, there's more Bum, legs, and more This makes it sound like a JML leg set It's like a gift basket

Yeah Yeah, I don't know what this person's on about To be honest Should we see what the thread says? Oh yeah, someone on the thread has said Why, is it Tui? I forgot they said it was Tui Or partner, that doesn't sound any more Tui than husband

I think husband's more Tui Yeah I know this is ridiculous Because we're married And obviously marriage is a thing that I have done. But I find people who go on about their husband when they could just use the name of the person a little bit twigs. I'm like, yeah, we get it.

Someone married you, well done. Like, just tell me what their name is. What's their name? I think the whole institution of marriage is quite twee. Yeah, it is. In a good way. Yeah. I like Joanna Newsom. She's quite tweed.

Great. I like the film The Princess Bride. That's quite tweed. That is quite twee. We have bunting inside our home. That's really twee. That's really twee. Sometimes you've got to own that you're twee.

That's fine. Yeah. A little bit of twee doesn't hurt anyone. Don't be coming around here trying to insult me by saying that twee is a bad thing when you are a person who posts on mumsnet, my friend. Being a mum's net is a bit twee. Yeah. Other half equals DP equals partner. D.H. equals marriage.

That's how I understand it anyway. No, because other half can equal. married. I don't understand. Also, personally, saying partner, yeah, I don't think that's Tweet, saying D-P, I know it's the way you have to post on Mumsnet, otherwise people think that you hate your partner if you don't describe them as your D partner. But that's T-wee as anything. That doesn't need to be the default, though. You don't have to refer to everyone as dear. Oh, it's like people on Monset whenever they're referring to just any children, children in general, they refer to them as D-C. Like, you don't know those kids, they might not be

darling, they might be shits. What about the SC over there? We should try and make that a new acronym on Monsnet. Yeah, I don't know that we've got the sway. No. Millions of members and there's only two of us. Yeah, 60 episodes and somehow we still don't have any swear on Monster. I know. It's almost like we've alienated people, intentionally.

Someone else, other half is utterly dire. I'm a whole entire person. Not half of a two-headed creature. I would agree with that. I'm a whole person. You are two halves of a person. I'm two halves of a person. And with that, should we do another thread? Yeah. Am I being unreasonable to be really offended by this company name? Name changed in case DH identifies me, but I'm a long-time poster. I've been checking off this month's joint account bank statement and came across a payment to a company called Bigger Jugs.

Turns out it sells home brew stuff, so no surprise who its target demographic probably is. I am feeling surprisingly annoyed that such a name is indelibly listed on our bank statement and that someone I thought was a feminist and has two daughters actually ordered from this website. Am I being oversensitive? Would you bring it up with your DH? So this is not a pawn site? No, it's just home brew shit. Home brew? Oh look, it's got a banterous name. It's a bit of a play on words. Just have a banterous name. It's aimed at men who do home brewing and like boobs. That's obviously.

obviously the target demographic. Great. I imagine browsing, looking at the websites, you do a search for jugs. Yeah. And the first one is like jugs.com and then it's bigjugs.com. And then oh, you're like, I just bigger jugs. And then you see biggest jugs and you're like, no, fly not too close to the sarmaccharis. Yeah. Lest my waxy wings should melt. I will have the bigger jugs. You've only got a problem here really if the husband was looking for porn of women with big boobs and then realised that she might find out what he was doing and so to cover his ass

bought a load of home brew stuff. Yeah, he was accidentally... So that from now on, all searches for bigger jugs. He can be like, you know that I'm really into home brewing. It's a long way to go to live this life. It is. Just trickle out the truth. Do a trickle truth.

Classic trickle truth. Classic trickle truth. So I was actually looking for bigger jugs. I'm tired of regular jugs. My libido can't handle them anymore. Bigger jug. Bigger jugs. Or what if he was looking for bigger jugs for himself? What if he was like, look, the time has come, I would like boobs. Then she'd be furious, probably. I think so. What with her being someone who posts on mum's that?

Yeah, I think if you're mad that the words bigger jugs are indelibly on your bank statement, then you're going to be pretty mad that your husband's looking for resting plants. Indelibly on your husband. Indelibly on his chest. Who cares? I'm saying this a lot, maybe this week has got to me, but No, like what's it matter that it's on your bank statement? Who sees that? That's what I wondered. And also why is she like, I thought he was a feminist. Well, no. Men can't be feminists. Yeah, he could be a bloody good ally, but inherently I don't agree with the idea that men can be feminists. Yeah, nor do I. But even if he was searching for

bigger jugs.com. That doesn't not make him an ally. Yeah, but I mean, there's a lot of very prescriptive feminism on mums that are very prescriptive. So, about who can or cannot be a woman, for example. Yeah. And I know that I've just said that men can't be feminists, which is quite prescriptive. So pots and kettles and all that. Jugs and bigger jugs. Yeah, I suspect that's where that comes from. That's the jug calling the bigger jug of bigger jug. The big jug calling the other jug a bigger, no. Better. Someone said it's no worse than doggy style, the pet groomers.

Oh, maybe they live somewhere that I've been. Yeah, I know what doggy styles are pet groomers. That's Doggy Stiles with a Z, though, isn't it? I've just remembered. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Less offensive. Doggystyles.com with an S was taken for something.

Oh. For something. Who knows? I've got my dog groomed, and now it's indelibly on my bank statements. Am I being unreasonable to kick the dog out? there's hairdressers somewhere not that far from where we live called curl up and die

clever yeah like does she just objected puns because what if you saw that on the bank statement she'd be like now people think that I want to die like puns are you know fine we went to the local olive shop earlier today and I wish it had gone the distance with an olive pun

like olive and let die you only olive once olive you baby yeah olive actually yeah olive you baby it's called olives and more I don't know where they got the more from

it's just olives there wasn't much more than olives only olives there were some bowls for holding olives that's true there were a lot of bowls for holding olives but I suppose that is more we've now got to the classic mum's net

do you remember the laser lads just two lads with a laser yeah well someone's done it on this one I'm suspecting this is a covert Christmas advert for bigger jugs I don't think bigger jugs are wasting their time trying to sell to the Am I Being Unreasonable Board by saying, look at our offensive name

It will be indelibly on your bank statement People really overestimate how important they are At being advertised to Like, you're obviously not the target market Do you brew stuff in jugs? I mean, I guess so, otherwise bigger jugs is nothing. Yeah, I don't know, I've never done home brewing The only people I've ever known to do home brewing

were really, really posh lads at uni, like the super posh lads and the parents of friends of mine who moved out for uni but still needs to sleep in their parents' houses during the holidays and they would go home and find a whole home brew set up in their childhood rooms

and everything would smell like yeast and they'd be like, oh, oh are you coming back for the whole summer? Well, okay, but I'm doing some brewing. They're the only people who've ever known to do brewing. I'm on biggerjigs.com.com. And it says, like many of the best ideas, it was born out of frustration when our local home brew shop closed down.

How many of the best ideas born out of frustration when local home brew shops closed down? That's the phrase, isn't it? Frustration is the mother of invention. Not just frustration. Frustration when local home brew shops closed down. Yeah, I mean... It's awfully specific.

It doesn't seem like many of the best ideas come from that. Like Einstein was struggling with relativity until his local home brew shop closed down. I mean, maybe if your home brew shop closes down and then you drink less and therefore some of the best ideas are more able to happen. Yeah.

Like maybe Einstein is struggling with relativity because he was on the lash with his home brew. And home brew's super strong normally. So maybe once he stopped drinking 9.3% bathtub beer, he was like, hang on, so relative.

You know the solution to getting it off your bank statement is to do more banking transactions so that it pushes it down the list. Yeah, so you should just make lots of micro-transactions. Yeah, just go out and go to Sainsbury's, get a load of shopping, and pay for each of them individually. No, at this time of year, Sainsbury is so busy, people will be furious, absolutely furious. There was a woman in the post office earlier, and she was doing the same transaction for literally 25 minutes. Maybe she was trying to knock off bigger jugs from her post office account.

Maybe she was sending bigger jugs. Maybe, who knows what she was doing. She's running bigger jugs.com. UK. But what I will say is this time of year, if you want to put through loads of tiny, tiny transactions, why not put them all through to charities? Because we're going to bloody well need them, aren't we? And you can do that at home on your computer, and you won't be taking up space at the supermarket. And then bigger jugs won't be so far up your transaction list, and everyone's a winner. Donate to charity. Do it one pound at a time. Yeah. Off things off your bank statements.

Should you move on? Am I being unreasonable? Do you openly talk about your salary with others? I was offered my dream role within my current company after I gave in my notice after working in a different part of the business the CEO then got hold of my CV and I negotiated hard and secured myself a 59% pay rise In my new office there's a lot of open chat about salaries, bonuses and benefits a lot of my co-workers are unhappy with their salary I was approached during the week by my co-workers

and asked outright what my salary was as many people in the office have suspicions they're being paid half as much as me, especially since I was asked personally by the CEO to stay. I've explained that I have never and will never speak about my salary with anyone, as it's information that is personal to me. I seem to be a one-person department, so I don't know enough about anyone else's roles and responsibilities to know whether they could negotiate for more.

Is this way of thinking strange? Am I being unreasonable not giving this information to others to give them the chance to renegotiate. They need to trickle the truth out of that their cello. I love that they're... They're just like, I will never tell anyone about my salary, and they come on mum's net, and they're like, I got a 59% pay rise, mum's net.

I'm like, well, you're talking about your salary now, aren't you, hen? Yeah, that's what you're doing. So, no, not talking about your salary, literally only benefits your employer. The reason that they say, don't talk about your salaries, is so that there's no parity, and then people can't use this information to realise when it's something.

unfair and people can't negotiate as effectively because it's also hush-hush and that is a thing that has been made to boot to benefit employers so that they can pay the bare minimum and they can keep everyone at their absolute like flaw salary yeah and then when you find out what other people earn that only creates problems doesn't it because then people start asking for more money and that creates a problem for the employer but not for you personally no feel free to come together as workers to talk about what you earn and what your benefits are and demand more. Yes.

So what you're doing here is you're acting like, oh, I would never talk about my salary because that's so inappropriate. But what you... No, you started a thread about it, so obviously you're kind of just looking for someone that you can show off to it about getting a 59% pay rise.

I bet no one's even asked. Yeah, but what you're buying into is managerialism and kind of neoliberal ideas about it's taboo to talk about your salary because that helps managers exploit you. Exactly. Join a union, except you won't join a union, will you? Because you're just out for yourself,

bragging about your 59% pay rise on mum's net, and then in the same breath saying you'd never talk about something so personal. Grow up. Talk about my salary that often. I mean, it doesn't come up. If anyone asked, I'd tell them. But also, I'm working the public sector, where we have salaries on a grade.

So everyone essentially knows what grade I'm on, and so knows what my salary is. Yeah. Because it's all fairly transparent, like more so than the private sector, which it sounds like this person's in. Yeah, so I'm in the charity sector, so we all know that our salaries are shit,

and that's the thing that we can take for granted, is that we're all being underpaid. But they recently did the salary benchmarking thing at work, and they were like, oh, the results of that have shown that everyone is within an appropriate range for their salary. But that is not helpful, because that means that if there's a range for the salary, and some of those ranges will be like 10, 12 grand

at the bottom end to top end of that range. and you know that you're within the range that doesn't mean that your colleague isn't being paid like 20% more than you are 50% more than you are potentially just because it's within a range that's really not helpful anyway we don't have a union that we recognise

and most people aren't in a union and some of my colleagues aren't in unions because they genuinely feel like they can't afford union subs because they're paid so badly and I'm like you need to prioritise but that's another thing but like this is only helping management if we all just got together

and they were like oh here's the results of the salary benchmarking exercise and then they went round the table and they're like any questions and we all just announced our salaries then what would they do yeah if we had like an in sparticus moment except we all just said our salaries yeah they'd have a riot on their hands it'd be glorious we should all get t-shirts with our salaries on them and wear them to work we should but the people like you don't be the trend set for that do you you don't want to do it first no you need solidarity for that kind of gesture yeah you need to be in agreement and you need to know that people won't

renege on their promises yeah as an individual thing that's not good. We need solidarity of workers is the point. People saying, oh, they're wondering if they're getting paid half as much as her. I'm trying to work the maths backwards, but if she's got a 59% pay rise, then probably. If only she'd negotiated that bit harder and got that extra 10%. Would have been real nice. Nice. I don't know, if that had happened and she posted about her on moms that people would be like, I think you should report him for sexual harassment. Hey guys, I got a 69 10% pay rise, I'd probably like, no, you need to report the company. Go to HR. I earned 69P an interest this month and that's indelibly on my bank statement now. To whom do I complain?

Oh, I wish I knew who this person was so that I could transfer her 69P with a reference, nice. That's what that person needs to do, just give 69P to various charities with the comment nice and this time of year people working in charities really could do with a laugh so please yeah go for it if anyone's bored if anyone wants to do their bit 69 pounds is better but 69 p anything you can give but ideally in in increments of 69 yeah yeah i mean it sounds like the culture in this this new office is very open and if there's a very open culture in the office and then you come in as a new person and everyone suspects that you're earning a lot more and you won't share what you're earning,

that's going to put you in a weird position anyway in terms of, you know, fitting in. And that's not ideal. Makes you sound like a shy toy. It does make you sound like a shy tory, yeah. And I mean, they shouldn't... Just say who you're voting for and say what you earn. Like, you shouldn't be pressured to say what you earn.

You absolutely shouldn't. But you shouldn't be judging people for wanting to have an openness around that because that openness does benefit workers. So don't get all of it. on your high horse about what's appropriate and all that. You need to be asking the CEO what he or she earns. Also, the, like, I negotiated hard and secured myself a 59% pay rise. Like, it's so individualist.

It's so individualist. Oh, because of my negotiating skills, I'm great, and I deserve this enormous pay rise. And all these people are trying to work collectively, but I think they should just fuck off. Yeah. I hate it. You shouldn't be negotiating collectively, so everyone can have a 69% pay rise. So, let's hear from the thread. knowing the going rate helps people ask what they're worth

and then someone's responded no it only makes them ask what they think they're worth salary should remain confidential it's nobody's business ask and get what you think you're worth no but then there's so many people who for various reasons because of like structural inequalities don't believe that they're worth what they are worth and other people have got a really inflated idea of what they're worth

because I've been told it's a pure meritocracy that means that them cis-hept white men are like worth so much money If people just go in asking for what they think they're worth, that is so underpinned by so much stuff. It's not fair. Like, I have had interviews where people have asked me what I think I'm worth. And like my most recent job, like the one that I have now, between that, I went through a recruitment agency and I told them what I thought I was worth. And they told me that I wasn't worth that.

And I told them that I would not be going with their recruitment agency. And they said, okay, fine. Well, maybe you are worth that. And then they said, can we, can we interest you in a job that's however much and it was like considerably less? I was like, no. No, I have no reason to be looking for a new job other than the fact that I believe that I am worth X amount and I will stay at my current job until I can find a job that pays me what I believe I'm worth. I'm not going to move for the sake of whatever you're offering. Like, as a woman, that's quite an unusual characteristic to have that

courage. And I think if that was a direct employer conversation, I wouldn't have it because I'd be too scared? Basically, I think this person is being terrible and I think this person has responded saying, no, it's not what people think they're worth. Like, well, how do you, you can't just pull a number out of the air. Having something to benchmark it against is helpful. And if people are doing comparable jobs, then I think you should be able to think that you're worth the same as someone else. That's not you being uppity. Am I being unreasonable? Cleaners take video clips in my house without knowledge or permission. How are being unreasonable? I use a contract cleaning company as I am an Airbnb host.

This week, new cleaners came in and there's been a bit of a disagreement over the quality of the cleaning and who actually turned up to do the work. The company boss has now sent proof of a video of clutter and my business that I run downstairs from home, which involves my original designs, not yet shared,

taken in my house without my permission. The cleaners are primarily here only to do the Airbnb cleaning, which is upstairs. But I do ask that they clean the floors downstairs on whatever else they can of time permits. I'm being unreasonable at being angry at this massive invasion of my privacy. What a strange scenario.

It is a strange scenario. You know what else is strange? Go on. We get a leaflet through our door this week from what appeared to be a private investigation company saying that a local family, a local black family... Black was capitalised. A local black family has been filmed secretly without their permission in their house, including in the shower and the toilet

and that was phrased really oddly like they've been filmed secretly without their mission in their house including in places that you would assume were private like the shower and the toilet and the entire house well yeah I would hope my whole house is private and like streamed online

it specifically said like Big Brother yeah but it sounds more like the Truman Show yeah and they were looking for any information that people might have on this especially where the footage was being streamed online Yeah, which seems fundamental to the investigation. Which seems basic. If there's no evidence it's being streamed online.

Find the website. Yeah. If you believe you're being filmed and streamed online, you need the stream to kind of back up that claim. I don't want a victim blame here. I'm not saying the family should have found the stream, but I do think the private investigator, as a private investigator, maybe has that in their remit.

Yeah, before printing flyers and just distributing them throughout the neighbourhood. Yeah. It doesn't say if they're a local family, though, does it? It just has a family. It just has a family. It doesn't even give the area, so it could be anywhere for all I know. It's the flyer saying, hey, have you been watching Big Brother-style footage of a family, including when they're on the toilet? And if so, can you let us know where to find this footage, please? That'd be great, thanks, babes. What if you watched a sitcom for years? Yeah. And then one day it turned out it wasn't a sitcom.

it was people being filmed without their knowledge and they hadn't known about it all this time. There aren't any sitcoms where they show people having a poo. No, no. I imagine some judicious editing. I don't know what happens on Mrs. Brown's boys. That seems about the calibre of Mrs. Brown's boys, just a person having a poo.

Anyway, that was strange and related to this. But these cleaners are not streaming this footage online. No, they're just taking the footage as evidence that have been there. It sounds a bit like when you get a point. parcel delivered when you're out and then they send you a photo over your front door to say like, we delivered it. Yeah. And sometimes they send us a photo with someone else's front door. I'm like, oh, great. You're in the wrong place? Yeah. Nonsense. But it sounds like it's more that. It's, yeah. I think I'd be annoyed like this person, but again, it would be a groundless

annoyance. Because you don't own the image rights to your home, I don't think. No. Like, if someone comes into your home, who you have invited, they can take photos and stuff, and that's fine. I think so it sounds like your home is a museum. they can take photos of our beautiful cats and that's fine well okay I don't want to drip feed here I don't want to trickle truth but I'm going to trickle truth

with the next post from the original post they've come back and they've said I think the cleaning company makes them prove they went to the house which is worrying in itself my ring doorbell showed they did not put in the time and recorded only one person entering and leaving I did not know the cleaners record footage in my house

and I only found out when I queried whether two of them had come to do the cleaning. I do not see how anyone can take footage inside someone's house without their permission and share it. Data protection, what happens to it? Who is it shared with? What if it is shared with a burglar? They would know what my house is and the layout. Incidentally, these two cleaners also left my key safe unlocked. That's not ideal. It's not ideal, but her ring doorbell takes pictures. Did the cleaners know that the ring doorbell is recording them? And also, if they The ring doorbell's only showing one person, and the cleanest footage is showing two. The cleaners footage doesn't sound that accurate, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Or the ring doorbell doesn't sound that accurate, so you need to sort that out. This is all a very mysterious turn of events. If everyone's covertly filming each other, but the footage doesn't tally up. This sounds like a traditional wet bandit's home alone scenario. Yeah, does it? I think the cleaners are a case in the joint. You remember Jill Pesci disguises himself as a policeman and gets the layout of the Macalester home before the big heist?

I saw that incorrectly regarded as a goof the other day. Someone on Twitter was... What, Joe Pesci appears as two characters? Yeah, someone on Twitter was like, oh my God, guys, can you believe one of the baddies from home alone is in it earlier as a policeman? Like, that's Joe Pesci and it's integral to the plot. That's the same character.

He's still playing the same character. He's just casing the joint. Incorrectly regards as goops. It's not like they had him on as a... Not like they filmed it in order. had him on as a police officer and thought, he's good. I was so impressed with his work.

You want to be the main bad guy? Yeah, all right. Yeah, yeah, why not? Yeah. I was watching this film the other day and there's a massive goof where Joe Pesci actually seems to appear

several years younger than he is. It's crazy. Crazy shit. If anyone is bored over the festive period, I would really recommend watching a film and then looking up things on IMDB are incorrectly regarded as goofs, because they are glorious. Like, some know it all who's either only half watching it

or is not very attentive, not very bright, going on IMDB and being like, here's a goof, and the goof is like a really important plot point, and then someone comes and updates it as incorrectly regarded as goofs. It's so good. In several scenes, the gremlins actually appear as furry little creatures with big ears. This woman left behind a perfectly good life to be with a man who owns a farm that isn't doing very well

That's actually not a goof That's the plot, oh At one point a doctor tells a character That they are mostly dead This is actually impossible Yeah so maybe there's something going on here Where it's incorrectly regarded as a goof Yeah, I think they're just casing the joint

Home Alone style That would explain why they've got footage of two people inside but she's only got footage of one person coming through the door because the other one was round the back popping the window yeah seeing if they could get in through the window they're coming through the cat flap too many cameras we're all too surveilled these days we don't need to add to it with cameras filming the cleaners and the cleaners filming the cameras and other cameras filming the cleaners filming the cameras I would watch that I would watch that if it was like one of those slowly unraveling Netflix documentaries where

first we see the first camera and then we see it from the next perspective and then we see it from the third perspective and there are lots of like talking headshots in between yeah like tell me who i am yeah yeah but it's just people cleaning a house yeah there's no shocking third act revelations it's just people cleaning a house yeah maybe the shocking third act revelation is the this is just nonsense and everyone's got too much time on their hands that's our shocking third act revelation maybe the shocking third act revelation is just the op changing the locks and hiring a new cleaner and then everything's fine They need to hire a private detective to fly her people in the neighbourhood

to see if they know anything about this, including where the footage you might be found online. The AP does come back and post three messages in a row where I think she's got herself in a bit of a tiz and people maybe aren't being as kind to her as she thought they would. And so now she's saying something about workmen rifling through the knicker drawer. I don't know why you'd have a knicker drawer in your Airbnb. No.

Take them knickers out. And it was just an Airbnb where you have the whole Airbnb to yourself. I would assume that the owner's stuff would be locked away somewhere and anything that I could access, I'd be okay to use. Like, if I opened a draw and it was just full of knickers, I'd be like, that's forward. I think I've taken photos. It's full of cameras. I'd be like, oh no, this is accidentally an Airbnb sex dungeon,

and I just wanted somewhere to sleep this evening. Yeah. Wasn't advertised as such. Yeah. I think I've taken photos in an Airbnb before. Don't think I'd thought about it. Yeah. I don't know.

I think because Airbnb has turned into this thing where it's mostly people doing it professionally you do forget that sometimes it is someone's real house and maybe you will just be absent-mindedly looking for something that you need for your stay and you'll find loads of pants and in among the pants a camera looking at you they've got you but it should be rummaging through pants jackpot you're going to jail should we do one more speed round and being unreasonable help house choice help I need a house choice help not just any house choice Help. Help me choose a house. Help.

Am I being unreasonable, what's happening to Philip Schofield? I mean, his hair went white, but that was a while ago. And am I being unreasonable to ask what to do with this teddy bear? Burn it. No. Burn the teddy bear. Burn the bear. Thank you for listening. Yeah, thanks.

Thanks for everyone who came to our live show last week. Yeah, we raised £450 for mermaids. Which is pretty. incredible yeah we're pretty pleased with that so thank you we get so much yeah thank you for all of your support it really is enormously appreciated and it's nice when we can come together and do things and support charities and support each other yeah that's what it's all about it is what it's all about we're going to release that episode uh closer to christmas as a christmas present a little christmas present for the listeners yeah and uh so keep an eye out for that yeah

have a lovely christmas have a great christmas We'll see you in the new year. See you in the new year. Bye.