You Are Being Unreasonable - 073 - In which his Bombay potatoes are a joke and we forage for DVDs

Episode Date: May 7, 2020

"Why is there always a buffet at this workplace?" COVID-19 will surely lead to massive changes in the way we live in the future. Could it be the end of popping-round culture? Could it be the start of prank-calling culture? Can we wear gymwear on our weekly trip to the supermarket? Are we just going to start leaving our obsolete physical media out on the pavement? Will we start foraging for DVDs? We discuss these sweeping societal changes as well as what to do if your husband and his potatoes are an absolute joke? He's looking like a total clown at the work buffet. 

Hello, driving on drugs feels better when their prescription. All I know is the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, right now. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day. Hello, welcome to Your Being Unreasonable,

the podcast about People Being Unreasonable, the podcast about people being Unreasonable. reasonable on mumsnet.com with me, Hales. And me, Simon. How's it going, Simon? I've seen a lot of people, just seeing thousands of people on a daily basis. Yeah? Hugging them, kissing them. Oh, I think we should talk about that off podcast. Coughing a lot. Love to cough. Love to cough. Yeah. Live laugh, cough. Just got to get something in my mouth, in my throat, sorry, but don't cover my mouth. Why would I? I'm not ashamed of what's in there. You're joking, but the number of people like you, your people, the white men, who just flatly were not covering their mouths before we went on lockdown

and I managed to minimise the number of your people I come into contact with. Yeah, you knew before lockdown you should cover your mouth. Yeah, I mean, the very last time we went to the pub before that became out of the question, I hadn't even finished my drink and you hadn't finished yours and I was standing up with my handbag on saying, that man isn't covering his mouth, come on. He wasn't covering his mouth. He wasn't.

He wasn't. He'd gone to the pub alone during a pandemic to cough. To cough. I assume that the people he lived with were like, you're sickening. You're sick and sickening. Go away. So he went to the pub to do his coughing without covering his mouth. Should you do a speed round? Am I being unreasonable to be worried about six in one vaccine? Mumps, measles, rebella, coronavirus, tickly cough. Nits. Nits. Yeah, so you don't get nits anymore. Okay. When did you last have nits? Years ago, but I've got a friend who has nits. Has your friend who has nits got a kid? No. Oh. And they've been self-isolating for goodness. knows how long. So who knows how they got nits? Yeah, okay, fair enough. I was going to say the vaccine for not getting nits is to stay away from kids, but apparently, that doesn't kite anymore. You can get nits anytime, any place. Well, there we go. I've learned something

today. Now my head is itchy. Am I being unreasonable to shop where the other woman works? Yeah, are you trying to give the other woman coronavirus? That's not good. Yeah, because then she'll just give it back to your partner and it'll come straight back to you. Shooting yourself in the foot. You are. Am I being unreasonable? to sometimes want to be told something nice. No. No, we all deserve that. And am I being unreasonable about H seeking attention during D.D.'s homeschooling video?

Hey, hey, look at me. Hey, I'll tell you a little thing about maths, how we used to do it. Tilly, is your father on a unicycle in the background? Not just on a unicycle, also juggling. I know the answer. Oh dear, should you do a proper thread? Am I being unreasonable? Do you think this is the end of the people popping round culture?

That's one of my favourite things about this. Nobody pops round. Surely everyone will be much more thoughtful about imposing their germs on people after this. No one going to come and knock on for you? Yeah. No one going to just be in the area. Oh, I was just in the area? Just passing by?

Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't happen, does it? It's not a thing. Do you want to come in for some tea? Gritted tea. I'll tell you a great life hack. If you don't want people to pop round, just cultivate a personality that really tells people

that you will tell them to fuck off and you won't be embarrassed about it. Just don't tell people where you live. Go off the grid. That's also a good option. Is people popping round culture? Is this a known culture? Is this like a thing that we know about?

People talk about, I don't know, digital culture, rape culture. People popping around. Round culture, a thing? I think, and speculating wildly, it might be a thing in smaller cities than once we live in. Because to pop around to a friend, you're travelling for like an hour in London. Whereas if you lived in a smaller town, you can probably just pop round to see a mate. I just think the framing of popping round culture makes it sound like a big thing that's taken hold that we need to...

We need to, you know, address and be aware of. And is the problem with popping round culture mainly about imposing the germs on people? surely people will be more thoughtful which suggests that they weren't thoughtful before and that imposing germs was a big problem with popping their own culture. Where does this person live where they would just open their door to someone

who they didn't expect who was just sneezing? Yeah. Achop! Oh! Oh, okay. No, I understand what you're saying about in smaller cities.

It might be more of a phenomenon but I think there's something very specific about describing something as a cult It's a culture shift. Get with the zeitgeist's tales. Yeah, like, it feels like a big, a big way to describe quite a small thing that happens. It's something the kids are calling, popping round. Yeah, I can't wait for Laura Coonsberg to explain popping round, like when she explained what shit posting was. And then people share it and say, this is shit. What are you on about Laura?

Are you, is this the news equivalent of shit posting? What are you doing? It involves going round to her friends and taking some bubble wrap with you so that together you can pop it Yeah, and then there'd be a little like vox pop from someone Yeah, in sort of grainy, there's an anonymised person I feel sort of popping around 50 years ago Yeah, I just think calling it a culture is a big thing You can't say that anything that you have a problem with is

a culture. It's not, like I say, it's not comparable to, for example, rape culture. Yeah, or meth, meth culture. Yeah. The meth lifestyle, as Louis Thruh once called it. The meth lifestyle, the popping round lifestyle, in which you pop round to do meth. Is that popping round? Like, if your dealer comes round and you invite him in, or her, is that popping round? I don't know. I don't think that counts as popping round. Popping round very much conjures up, you know, tea and grounds. Yeah, it does. It doesn't seem like if your dealer comes around. Are you saying dealers don't drink tea? Dealers are people too? No, I'm sure they do, but they might want to have the drugs. You might want to have the expensive drugs that you purchased. They want to get high off their own supply. They've popped

around to get high off their own supply. It's a tip. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Don't judge the dealers else. Someone has said, I'd love to think it was the end of the cold calling culture. These things aren't cultures. Well, like on the phone, how's that going to be affected? I don't know. You can call call someone now. Yeah. Fill your boots. Everyone's at home.

Maybe this will be the start of prank calling culture again. Prank calling culture went out of the window for a bit. But I think this is a great time for the prank call renaissance. Inexplicably, the McElroy's did a prank calling episode for the maximum fun drive. Did they? Yeah. And I thought, that's weird. Yeah, so maybe if you were going to pop round, why not mix it up?

Why not prank call someone? Yeah, yeah, why not? Everyone's at home, go for it. I think the problem is people don't answer their phones anymore. I think prank calling worked in an era where people answered the phones. Can you prank video call someone? You'd have to wear a full disguise, or you'd have to pixelate yourself out and do the grainy thing. Dom Jolly wouldn't mind.

Yeah, I don't want Dom Jolly to prank call me. There's quite enough going on at the moment already without Dom Jolly prank calling me from his big phone. His big laptop, because he's video calling you. You're on the train, Dom. Well, you shouldn't be. You're not a key worker. This is not essential travel. Get back inside, Don.

I'm on the train. Well, that's an affront to the situation. Reckless. Remember the phone jacker? No. I remember the adverts. I never watched it. No, I don't think I did.

These are all UK-based prank shows. So I'm in there. Really showing up how big he thinks our reaches. You've got listeners in all kinds of area. He got hose in every area coat. I didn't say it. I'm not calling our listeners hose. No one ever pops around here.

I would hate that. Luckily, it died off in the 80s around here. I was switching as a society, Factor said. So we all stopped popping round. I'm at home and I have a lot of friends I see on a regular basis for coffee, etc. But none of us pop. But if they did pop, I'd be pleased that they weren't able to pop. Much of pop.

Just can't stop. That's right. So I think there's a device. between the people who want to pop round and the people who don't. And I think the people who intend to pop round sound like they're still doing it even now. They shouldn't be doing it now because of lockdown. I think people who pop around are, they're relentless. They need to be stopped.

Even a pandemic won't stop the poppers. What you're describing is the plot of the purge. The purge in which people pop round. Hello, we're just popping around for murder. Yeah, you're in your panic room, you pick up the thing for your, video call on your door and it's loads of people wearing scary masks just popped around

one of them takes off his mask and it's dumb jolly you're on trigger happy TV it's the 90s should we do another threat am I being unreasonable where to get rid of DVDs I have loads of old DVDs that we no longer need thanks to

Netflix anyone know where I can get rid of them a music magpie etc still worth bothering with and how much would I be likely to get for say 50 DVDs thanks pennies, like pennies, you're going to get pennies for those. Let's say you go to CEX, like the first responder, not first responder.

Yeah, because this person called the emergency services. What we have here is the transcript of an emergency call. The first person who responded to the thread says go to CX. So you can get pennies. Like, I've sold DVDs at CX, and you get literal pennies for DVDs. A chunky Blu-ray, you're looking at a few pounds. Great. A video game, Nintendo Switch.

Rich game, £30, maybe. Fantastic. But DVDs, come on. Just give them to charity. Just leave them on the front wall of your house. Have you noticed this when you've been out running? All of the people in our local areas seem to have done a clear out of their DVDs and they've all just left them on walls near their houses. Yeah, I saw a little pile of children's books just left outside. I nearly took a picture of a pile of DVDs earlier when I was out because it was a pile of DVDs and they're all in those paper cases where you get a DVD free with the Sunday papers. Yeah. And they're all from, like, you know, the 90s.

And so how have you come to have them for this long? You've had them for 25 years. You've kept them. And then during a pandemic, you're like, they need to get out. I want the DVDs out. Put them on the wall. I can't bear the sight of them. And who do you think is going to take your,

here's two episodes of the office plus highlights of the Christmas special in a paper case from the sun DVD, one of the ones I actually saw? Or your two identical copies of a version of King Lear that came through with The Times, something else that they had there. Do you think you're doing your neighbours of favour? Do you think your neighbours are sitting at home thinking, oh, I might go foraging for a DVD later?

And they're going to stumble upon these and be delighted. Because what you're actually doing is just littering. You're fly-tipping. These are good times for DVD photologists. Yeah. These are the boom times. These are the boom times. Just popped around to see if you'd left any DVDs on your doorstep.

But I don't think you should get rid of these DVDs. You say that you know long. I need them thanks to Netflix, but with subscription services sort of fracturing and like Disney Plus scooping up a whole load of different subscribers and it becoming more like the broadcast TV model. I think physical media will be a good thing to have in the coming years. But you can't trust Netflix to keep things. They're not your friends.

Like, they're not going to keep them for posterity. So I've got into buying, well, Blu-rays again, because there are films I want to own. And you don't own things if you get them off Amazon Prime or Netflix. on now TV. I mean, you can get stuff off Amazon Prime and own it. Like, you can buy the digital version of it so it's yours. Oh, for how long? Like, what if the file format that they have become superseded?

Okay. What if Amazon goes out of business? What if the play of your Bluroy has become superseded? Yeah, that's a good point. People are going back to an older way of life. They're staying local. They're making their own bread. Nature is healing.

Beta Max is coming back. I did see a wild laser disc the other day. so you can't be sure it's interesting that these old formats of video don't have the same kind of nostalgic appeal as vinyl because people love vinyl and it's crackly crackly sound I love vinyl yeah um like there's vinyl shops all over

record store day all this stuff but you don't see people nostalgically buying VHSs well there's a shop locally and obviously it's shut at the moment that they sell secondhand books and secondhand vinyl and they sell that in support of the library and I'm sorry, I work for an NHS charity. Why is everyone so angry at us NHS charities for existing because I pay my taxes and yet we're not angry

there's a charity shop for the library. That's an aside. Fuck's sake. But they sell secondhand vinyl and secondhand books because, you know, those are the things people want and all the money they make goes into keeping the local library running. Great, whatever. But when they opened, someone said, oh, I hope you're going to be selling CDs as well.

And they were like, yeah, okay, we'll sell CDs. and then like 30 more people replied like, please don't, no one wants to buy CDs and you'll make your shop look like a junk shop. I wouldn't shop anywhere that sold second-hand CDs. And yeah, there is something in that. Yeah, there's something about the appeal of vinyl that CDs don't have.

So that place also sells DVDs, but the DVDs are like in this illicit back corner on a shelf that like faces away from the door and you wouldn't know it was there unless you happen to stumble upon it because it's hidden behind a shelf of books. And I wonder if that's because someone's donated a load or someone's asked about it, but they know that people are sick of the sight of DVDs.

How do I get rid of all my porno DVDs? Leave in a bush for someone else to pick them up. Will CEX take them? I'm in no way old enough to ever have encountered this porn in a bush phenomenon that everyone tweets about. But the people tweeting about it are my age, harking back to a golden age that we didn't live through. You just see wild DVDs that you can for and people reminisce about finding porn in a bush. We found porn in a bush. Really?

Yeah. This is just not... A friend brought it into school. Maybe I just grew up somewhere too urban for there to be bushes lying around like that. I just didn't see any bushes and therefore didn't see any porn in it. I don't know. Sheltered. Yeah.

Sheltered by my brutalist environs. No, but seriously, you can turn these DVDs into coasters, wind chimes that keep away birds. A clock. A simple clock. A simple clock. A big mirror. Yeah? If you do turn them into a simple clock or a big mirror.

That's still on you. You will still need to work out how to re-home them because I'm telling you, no one's buying them and they're not a thoughtful gift. Might be all over it, see if you all we know. Please don't step to me with your crap DVD clock. Don't come to me, don't come to me and say, oh, I've got a DVD special of the best bits of Corrie from 1993, and I've turned it into a clock for you because I'll just say, oh, okay. And then you've left me with the problem of where to get rid of them. Obviously, you might have to save them for a while, give them to a hospital or a charity. Hospitals are busy and all the charity shops are shut so don't, again this is just littering

I don't understand why suddenly it's become so urgent that we all just fly-tip our DVDs Post them on your local Facebook page Sure, if your local Facebook page is 12 years ago There might be a market for some DVDs But otherwise, no one wants them It's a great time to buy stocks in streaming services I'm sure it is

Although Netflix's got like 16 million new subscribers or something. Wow. That's amazing. And Troll's World Tour smashed its targets by going on streaming. Really? Oh yeah. People are saying Troll's World Tour is the most significant cinematic release in years. Who? Industry people. Which industry people? I'm sort of working film. No, you can't say something bullshit and then attribute it to industry people and then say that you are the... Talk about my vague air of authority. Oh, dearie me. Let's do another threat. Am I being unreasonable to tell D.H that his potatoes are a joke. D.H. and I used to work together.

We don't anymore, but I'm in touch with the old team. Whenever there was a buffet, D.H. used to make Bombay potatoes, which he thought were dead popular. But the staff there just take the piss. They're all about a post-lockdown buffet, and the major joke is D.H.'s potatoes and messages such as, bless him. D.H. is excited going on about how he will need to make these potatoes. I'm being unreasonable to tell him he's a joke.

You read these posts very well. People have commented on the voice you use when you read the posts. It's very good, very distinctive. And, you know, it's testament to your fairness that I would have read this thread as, am I being unreasonable to tell D.H these potatoes are a joke? D.H. is excited going on about how he will need to make these potatoes. Am I being unreasonable to tell him he's a fucking joke?

You just added the word fucking there. He's a fucking joke. He needs to pull up his potatoes. bootstrapped and think about his potatoes because he's a joke. He's a laughing sock. I'm embarrassed to be married to him. I've interpreted this more as someone who's a little bit embarrassed on their

DH's behalf. Yeah, I think she's furious, like in her cell proper. Your fucking joke mate. Everyone's laughing at you. These potatoes are a joke. And then, you know, like when someone throws a glass of cocktail or something, it's like, someone throws a drink in someone's face, that but with a bowl

of Bombay potato. Yeah, it's very dramatic. Potatoes everywhere. You're a joke You've got spicy eyes You've just made them So you've also got second degree burns On your little rosy cheeks They're hot but you needed it

Because your potatoes are a joke A joke Everyone says it Everyone's laughing at you behind your back I can't believe this I was down at the supermarket And someone was talking to me about your potatoes What can I do?

Just burst into tears in the aisle You happen You're a joke And so am I I used to work with these people I had to leave a job Because of your potatoes His potatoes are driving us apart

I couldn't look them in the eye anymore Because of the potatoes You need to get in that kitchen Until you sort out those potatoes You know what, just forget it Forget it I can do better, I can change I can make mash

No, you've done enough You've used quite enough potatoes already I can put more butter in Shouldn't be buttering bomb baked potatoes You sicken me No, I think it's someone who's well-meaning and it's just a little bit embarrassed on their partner's behalf. I'm also a little perplexed as to why this person's seeing all the messages about the buffet

and everyone being like, oh, bless him, the potatoes. But the husband hasn't seen these messages. So the O.P no longer works there, but by the sound of it, the husband does, the OPE's still in the group chat and the husband isn't? That's how it sounds. Oh, yeah. A good point. How is it that the O.P knows, is everyone going off group to, like, send a message?

Why did he think they were dead popular? Did they all go? Like if all the Bombay potatoes went, maybe they are dead popular. And maybe you're misreading the social cues. I'm like, oh, bless him. Oh, bless me, sweet. Such a good person. He always makes us those lovely potatoes.

Yeah, and you've interpreted it as sarcasm. The major joke is D.H's potatoes. What a tedious workplace. It's a good joke. Do you remember the potatoes? Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha. Bless him. Insufferable.

No, don't tell him he's a joke. These people sound like bastards. they deserve to endure some potatoes that they don't especially enjoy. Yeah, a post-lockdown buffet, which doesn't sound like the best way to serve food post-lockdown. Maybe in a few months after lockdown. Yeah, I wouldn't be impressed with the buffet. I would start with individually plated meals. Absolutely.

I mean, I don't like the idea of a buffet in a lot of situations anyway. Well, a spread. Yeah. A spread is good, a buffet, not so good. I think a spread and a buffet, while they are, undeniably the same thing, in my mind, feel like different things. Because a spread seems like, you know, like snack things. It's just a selection of snack things. Whereas a buffet has Bombay potatoes.

A buffet seems, yeah, like lots of big vats of food that you sort of slop out onto a plate. A spread, like, oh yeah, I'll have a couple of crude teas. I'll have one of these mini-kishes, whatever. How's he going to get rid of all these Bombay potatoes? Do I? C-E-X? Music magpie? Just leave them out on the curb.

Help yourself. Why would you tell him he's a joke? Why wouldn't you just say, like, maybe you could try a new recipe. This would be a great time to try a new recipe. Maybe you could try. You've left it too late to do that. Have you? You need to have someone prank, video caught him.

Yeah. Say, potatoes are a joke, and then hang up. Yeah. You need someone to do it over and over at all times of night. Yeah, until it really gets to him. Like, he's sweating, he can't sleep at night. Yeah. He's rocking back and four.

Then he'll get through to him. Yeah. These potatoes are a fucking joke. Picks up the foe. Right, Bombay Bad Boy, you're a joke. Yeah. You call the police, but they won't help. You've paid them off.

They're just telling them also. It sounds like your potatoes are a joke, and you are too. Why is there always a buffet at this workplace? Whenever there was a buffet, I worked somewhere for a while where once a month we did like a potluck lunch, or as the chief executive, the place, called it a Jacob join me lunch. It is. It really irritated me. I'm sure it's a legit phrase and it's totally irrational but it really wound me up. Inevitably, those sorts of things just end

with like, say you've got 20 employees, you've got 18 pots of hummus and four bags at crisps because everyone forgot and did it on the way in. So I'd be quite pleased to see that someone have made the effort to actually make something. Hmm, I've looked up Jacob's joint and it's a term used in Lancashire and Cumbria. Okay, well he was from Lancashire, so fair enough. I'm not from far around there and I've never heard it. Yeah, but But, like, regional variations are very, very, very specific. Yeah. Oh, not in Albany now.

It's a Utica expression. For a pot look. Yes. Even though it's clearly a Jacob's Join. He definitely used to call it a Jacob Join Me lunch. Not a Jacob's Join. It was Jacob Joined Me. Like, you're inviting a man named Jacob to sit with you.

Further in this Guardian article I'm reading, it says it's a Methodist term. And I was raised as a Methodist near Lancashire and Cumbria. Yeah, but near there, not in there. I'm sure that there are plenty of Methodist terms for a potluck lunch. They vary. Jacob joined me in this part of the country at this time of year. Localised entirely in Lancashire and Cumbria. Should we hear from the thread?

Yeah. Oh dear, his heart will be broken. I don't know how I would handle this. But I'd probably tell him. Maybe I'd try to come up with a jokes on them plan first. Yeah, poison the Mumbai potatoes. I'll show them. I don't like my potatoes, do you? Yeah, but they don't like them, so no one's eating them.

Oh, no. Poison the potatoes, and then they just sit there until eventually you scrape them into the bin. I mean, if you wanted to get back at them, I would perfect another recipe, and they'd be like, oh, wow, these are a vast improvement on those shitty potatoes you used to always fobbers off with, and then as they polish off their third helping, the poison. to sell them the antidote. No, you know how... You put the antidote in the Bombay potatoes. This would never have happened if you'd have my Bombay potatoes as well as my pecoras. Only one person is spared because they had a nibble of the Bombay potatoes.

Just so it polite. No, you know how you can make food that looks like other food? Like cakes that look like burgers and whatever? Yeah, that weirds me out. Even thinking about it's making me feel quite uncomfortable. You make Bombay potatoes perfectly disguised as a lasagna. I like it. I like it. Yeah. Okay. Why are we tricking people in tweet? Someone has said, I wouldn't be talking behind my husband's back with former colleagues, which is a good point.

Especially since the husband seems to work with them. And the OP said, I'm not talking about him. I think they've forgotten that I'm in the group, but why isn't the husband in the group? Yeah. Someone has said, why can't he just bring shit in like everyone else? Why is he need to go all Jamie Oliver for attention? Which is kind of what I was just saying about, you have 18 pots of hurt. some four bags of crisps. But this changes the whole thing. Yeah. I'd be delighted to see some...

Yeah, now people think he's too swanky for his great Bombay potatoes. And he should be making shit. Pretty simple. In the grand scheme of things. Bad all of time. Now I worry that I'm like this husband, because I'm always really extra with these sorts of things.

Like... Your fucking joke, hells. Oh no. When we went on holiday with your family last year, I made some potatoes that your dad went on and on about how much he liked them, but was that a joke? I don't think that. That was a joke.

Oh no, my potatoes were too extra. My name was like, oh, hell, you have to give me the recipe for those potatoes. Oh, I definitely have those potatoes again. Everyone was laughing at me. I'm a joke. I don't think that's true. A potato joke. One of those potato jokes that we've heard so much about in the last 10 minutes.

You're being very unreasonable to tell your husband anything about him is a joke, although perhaps you meant it more in a light-hearted way than it came across. There's definitely a polite way to say this then. You're a joke. Yeah, maybe you could try Like, everyone's being really mean about those potatoes They keep calling you Jamie Oliver The worst insult, worse than the C-bomb

And maybe you shouldn't waste your energy On making them potatoes Yeah They don't deserve this Yeah, don't waste your energy on people Who don't like your potatoes And then someone had said Why not stick up for your husband?

A good point A novel idea A novel idea If I were in a group chat And everyone was saying that you were a joke I also would pretend not to be there. No, I'd stick up for you. That's good of you.

Am I being unreasonable? Gym wear as outdoor wear. My friends just bought gym leggings for wearing round Astor. I'm horrified. Gym wear is for working out, not wearing out, surely. Yes, petty thread, but it's lockdown and I'm bored. So, you're being unreasonable, active wear is acceptable as everyday clothes. You are not being unreasonable.

Gym leggings need to stay in the gym only. Very binary. I suppose they all are really. But here they've laid out the options for us. Well, I think that's because you are being unreasonable has this voting facility where you can vote to say if you think the O.P. is reasonable or unreasonable. And they've clarified what exactly you're voting for. Yeah. Exactly. Which is important in a vote. It needs to be clear what you're voting for. Otherwise, you might end up with three years of political nonsense that doesn't need to happen. I would be happy to have this go to a referendum. I would like a third option, which is Jimware Plus. I would like the Norway option for Jimware. Yeah, and then if you vote, you can see the percentage of people that have voted one way or another.

So there we go. This really does our job for us. It does. We're being automated out of existence. I would like to think that people come for the chat rather than for definitive answers on what the people who use Monsnet perceived to be the correct response. Oh, I thought people were really coming for definitive. That's what the you are being on these more wikis about, just totting up what we've said is the right thing to do on a weekly basis. Are you being one of the rational men, the rational men who understand that they need to be rational

and everything they do is always very rational and everything that other people do is less rational. Just pragmatically, as a rational person, you're here to make rational, practical decisions. Facts don't care about your feelings, health. Well, feelings don't care about your facts, so... Whoa. Mind blown. Yeah. I don't mind people wearing gym wear outside the gym.

How are they going to get to and from the gym? If not, wearing the gym way, weren't you? At the gym. In the changing room at the gym? I've never been to a gym. You've never been to a gym. Ever? No.

I mean, at like a hotel. At a spa hotel, I've passed through the gymnasium on my way to the spa facilities. In your robes and slippies. Yeah, but that's not gym wear. That's robes and slippies. If you bought robes and slippies to wear to ASTA, and the thread was about someone buying robes and slippers. to wear especially to ASTA, then I might be...

Yeah, robes and slippies is not appropriate in ASDA. No, it's not. But gym wear covers up a lot and often it's quite flattering. Buying new leggings specifically to wear to ASTA seems very prescriptive if this person has bought them, especially so they have one outfit that they wear to ASTA. But even then, in the current situation, this might be taking it too far in terms of defending the OP's friend, but potentially they might have bought an outfit to wear to ASTA that they can then fling straight in the washing machine because if they're particularly

vulnerable or particularly nervous, they might not want their outdoor clothes indoors. So if they're going to the supermarket where there's more of a risk of picking something up, maybe they do want a specific outfit. To a good point. Or maybe they're combining their one daily exercise with going to the shop. Yeah. So those are good reasons. If they have just bought some leggings specifically for ASTA and it's not based on that,

that is quite an odd thing to do. I'm not judging them. Anyway, you can pass the time right now. They say Tesco and Morrison's on the legs. Astor on the bunk? No, they're only for ASTA. Oh, Astor on the legs? Astor on the bum. Like, I imagine the AP's friend has put on their ASTA leggings. There they are. Someone they live with saying,

oh, can you just pop into the pharmacist on your way back? No, I've put my ASTA leggings on there, only to wear it to ASTA. I'll have to come home and change into my pharmacy leggings. Yeah, that's ASDA price. Yeah. Do that to the bum? You didn't do your knee. It's like slapping pan to ASTA. You didn't follow through.

Yeah, well. Also, why is this friend told the OP? Surely, if they're real friends, the friend will know by now that the OP is boring and judgmental. Your gym clothes are a joke. People are laughing at you at Astor and laughing at me for me and your friend. Am I a joke to you?

I am horrified. It's a lot of things are horrifying at the moment. I'm not sure that getting you leggings specifically to wear to Astor is one of them. You shouldn't be meeting up anyway. If you're meeting up in Astor and you're judging their gym leggings, Now, we'll stay two metres away from one another. Well, no, I imagine what's happened here. And maybe I'm doing the OP a disservice

is the OP and their friend are catching up, they're on Zoom or whatever, they've got nothing to talk about because no one's going anywhere, so we're all just making ridiculous chitch at. Except ASDA. And this person said, oh, I bought some new leggings and then realised, I bought some new gym leggings,

and then realised all the gyms are shut and then as a joke probably is there to where to ASTA. And the OP's just there furiously, like they've still got Zoom open, but they're just furiously typing in mum's out, like, my friends just bought these leggings. The one's just there laughing, like, oh, yeah, what am I going to do?

Wear them to Astor, I suppose so. I only wear my juggings for running. No, juggings are something different. No, I jogging them. No. Jogging leggings. We've had this before. We've had this conversation before.

Have we? Yeah. It is striking a cord. We were going to... Jogging leggings. We were going to do a group activity with a group of friends. Yeah.

And the activity involved, going to do something active and then going to a pub or something. And we were talking about what everyone was going to wear. And a lot of people were saying, oh, I'm going to wear jaggings because they work for both things. And you said, oh, I've got some jaggings. I've never seen you wearing jaggings. And you were like, jogging leggings. Like, no, jeggings are jean leggings.

Oh, so they're made of denim, presumably. Yeah. So why aren't they deggings? Because they're jaggings. Gene leggings. I saw some janties earlier. Jant. Like jean panties.

That's right. Like jorts, but, you know, pansy shaped. Where did you see those? Twitter.com. Okay, not just in a bush. A picture of someone wearing them was just in a bush. I wrote them in a bush and I brought them home to show to my friends later when they pop around. Yeah, I think I wear gym wear just like out and about, but only of them doing something relatively active.

Like if I'm going for a nice long walk but then somewhere along the line I'm also going to the supermarket, which I've done a couple of times since this has begun. so that I can say, actually, I'm just going to do the essential shop at a supermarket three and a half miles away. Then I've gone out in leggings and stuff for that. I can't imagine anyone's busy judging me for it, but if they are, get a grip. So be it. It doesn't sound like you like your friend. And if you're not a like for a loving lass, because if you love something, set it free. Yeah, wear it in ASTA. Wear it in Morrisons. We're in Sainsby's even. Don't wear it in waitrose. No, do actually. There's nothing more waitros than wearing your sweaty betty or Lulu

lemon. I only have fabletics because I'm not quite that boozy. And then the Ops come back and said, oh dear, I forgot to put lighthearted. We were having a discussion about it. You do have to put lighthearted because on Mumsnet, if you don't specify you're being lighthearted, people will always assume that you think that what you're saying is extremely important. People on Mumsnet just assume. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think a lot of people go to Momsnet feeling quite wound up about things to begin with, and then Mumset just amps that up. And so everyone's baseline is very far removed from lighthearted. Jim leggings are fine to be worn

wherever she wants to wear them. I wouldn't bat an eyelid if I saw someone. Some of them are lovely and colourful with nice patterns. Oh what so? That makes it better. If you're wearing plain black Jim leggings, then try harder. This is Asda. My leggings are plain black.

Well, you should get some nice colourful ones. Just wear whatever you want. It's a pandemic. Yeah, chill out. And to be honest, you're better off going about your daily business wearing sportswear, because when I've been out wearing nice clothes because nice clothes bringing me joy. People look at me very suspiciously like I'm coming home from some sort of illicit party. You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

Yeah, we all just need to wear a neutral outfit. A classic, like what you're wearing on Animal Crossing, when Pietro, the most over-the-top sheep I've ever seen, told you that your outfit was a classic. Yeah, he's a good guy. So we'll wear exactly what you had on for Animal Crossing, which is floral shorts and a beige polo shirt. That's the new lockdown uniform. Should we do one more speed round?

Am I being unreasonable? What would you do? I wouldn't go outside. I'd wash my hands. Am I being unreasonable to not clap anymore? No, I think we've all done with the clapping. Am I being unreasonable to ask you to share your favourite jokes? The man with the Bombay potatoes. Very good. And am I being unreasonable, why don't women just divorce? Why don't women just divorce?

That's a pretty radical take. All of them. Yeah. That's the feminist movement we need. All the women just open. Last divorce, like a general strike, but for divorce. Yeah, are you trying to leave me, but you're trying to twist it so that it sounds. And I think you should lead it as a feminist cause. That'd really show up the patriarchy. That'd really show us. Tried to make me file so that you're not the failure.

But it's a cause, and I'm behind you 100%. I'm an ally. Thanks for listening. Thank you very much for listening. We put out a quiz last week. We did, yeah. Thank you for everyone who joined in with that. And the quiz hasn't been taken down or anything,

but you just missed the boat on entering for the prize, the real life prize. The real life prize. The fabulous prize. But yeah, thank you to everyone who took part in our quiz, and thank you to everyone for listening now. Bye! Bye!

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