You Are Being Unreasonable - 081 - In which landlords steal shoes and Bran Stark is a messy bitch who lives for drama

Episode Date: August 20, 2020

"It's All Gravy Baby... Or Is It?" Another episode of our The Apprentice / Game of Thrones mash-up podcast, Nuggs of Wisdom. Is it unreasonable for landlords to kick fellow human beings out of their homes during an international health crisis? Is building a kickass Wild West town in The Sims 4 nerdy? Why is everyone on Mumsnet so DRAMATIC?! We also run some new features: Mumsnet ASMR and another 'is gravy OK with this specific food?' thread.

Hello, driving on drugs feels better when they're prescription. All I know, the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, right now. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now.

Hello. Hello, welcome to your being. The podcast about people being unreasonable are mumsnet.com with me, Hells. And me, Simon. And Leon's here. Leon's here. Leon has come to see what the mic is all about, so he's purring directly at it. Great mic technique. Great mic technique. Right into it.

Yeah, well done, Leon. But yeah, it's like ASMR. Mumsnet ASMR. It is. The search term you didn't know you needed. And yet here we are. But Leon's not the only person who wants to be. on a podcast. So... He's not the only person who wants to be unreasonable.

Should we do a speed round? Yes. Am I being unreasonable to ask if others sweat? I know one person who doesn't. Prince Andrew, famously, doesn't sweat. Am I being unreasonable to not want my nephew in the house at the weekend? I think you could have ended after not want my nephew in the house. Just at the weekend?

Could smell. Maybe he does. He only smells at the weekend. Baves during the week. And Am I Being Unreasonable? Is a showstopper bad and other things? I suppose the showstopper should be bad because it stops the show and the show must go on.

Well... The showstopper implies it has stopped the show, it's ended it. Yeah? I mean, I guess. So yeah, I guess it is a bad thing. Never thought about it. Well, there we go. Shall we?

A real showstopper of a speed-round question. Am I being unreasonable? To think about kicking out good tenants I've had them for over three years and they've never missed a payment but in April they said they were struggling so I offered a one-fifth rent discount for three months when this ended they asked for another three months it doesn't affect my bottom line as I've taken out a six-month mortgage holiday

and the payments won't increase when they start again as it's added to the term I've been able to build up a bit of cash but one works at a hotel and the other manages a restaurant would I be unreasonable to ask them to confirm the full rent needs to be paid for September, else I'll give them notice. I really want someone in there paying the full rent and it feels like I'm subbing them right now. So let me get this straight. Go on. They've got a mortgage holiday. Yeah, six months. They're not paying the mortgage. No. They've managed to say a little bit of cash in that time, despite receiving four fifths of the rent. Yeah. And these people have been on a rent holiday or

whatever, right? They've given them, was it they're not paying any rent or they're paying reduced rent. A one-fifth rent discount. They're paying four-fifth of their rent. A one-fif rent discount. They're paying 80% of the rent, presumably if they're on furlough, they're being paid 80% of their wages, so they've got an 80% of their rent deal going on. So the tenants are now paying four-fifths of the mortgage that you are not paying. And you somehow managed to just save a bit of cash. What have you been spending your money on? No, I think it's fairly obvious that this is a parasite. A real, in the tric landlord. Yeah. I feel like I'm subbing them right now. Do you? They are subbing you. If you can't fund your lifestyle without getting

a hundred percent of the rent, when you're not even paying the mortgage, you need to take a long, hard look. Something's gone very wrong. What do you do with your finances in precedented times? In normal? In the old normal. Non-COVID times, yeah. Are you just spending freely? Are you spending more now? And if they kick out their tenants, who's to say they'll even get new tenants in. I hope they do kick their tenants out and I hope their tenants get a lovely new landlord if that's a thing, I don't know, it might be. Bell Hooks is probably a nice landlord and then this person cannot get a new tenant for love nor money and they simply have to live in this flat that they own. Gross. Shall you hear from the thread? Yeah. Some landlords

are passing on the payment holiday to their tenants as a gesture of goodwill. If you're not out of pocket, what's the problem? What are the chances of finding good tenants again? That's a very mums let you take. Mums let think that the majority of tenants are bad. Yeah. I think it might because they're bad landlords. I had this terrible landlord once and I mean, she was a landlord. I was going to explain why she was terrible. Just she was a landlord. And she decided that my flatmate's tenancy ran for a month longer than it did. And it was all a bit of a mess anyway because like my tenancy was a month longer than my flatmate. So my flatmate went to leave. And she said, oh, well, you've got another month on a tenancy. So I'll keep your deposit. So my then flatmate took

crayons. I don't know where she got them from to the walls and just wrote, she will rip you off on everyone. Which wouldn't have happened if the landlord hadn't been such a dick, but I bet she's like, well, tenants are bad, they write on your walls. A terrible tenant. I had gotten my walls. That was being a dick

after I had been dickish. And then the same landlord stole my flatmate's shoes that she'd left behind. It's not great. Yeah, and then when I moved out, I had a box of stuff I was going to take to the charity shop and out of the goodness of her heart, she was like, I'll take it. But I bet that she just kept it, and she's parading around town in my old clothes, listening to my old DAB radio.

She's just taking it over your life. She has. Stolen your identity. She will steal your identity. Write it on the walls. In crayon. Yeah. On Mumsnet, people think most tenants are bad, and I think that that is a reflection of the

type of landlord who goes on Mumsnet. You might want to be the kind of person who provides housing to people during a crisis. Or you might not. Or you might want to be this person. Yeah. The next person says, what if you're going to be? you can't get tenants or you get rubbish ones. Someone else has said,

you'd be better off putting and writing a formal date that full rent needs to be paid rather than chucking them out. What if you kick out some people during a pandemic, some human people with emotions and inner lives? What happens if you kick them out during a pandemic?

You're a bad person. That's what happens. Someone said, are you asking them to pay back the fifth discount that you gave them or just asking them to pay rent again in full from September? I don't think it makes any difference

particularly, I think either way, you haven't had to pay your mortgage for six months and yet you have not managed to save enough money for this not to be crippling you. What are you doing? Are they still paying council tax and bills and utilities? Well, presumably, they might have mentioned that. As well as the four-fifths rent. Somebody has said, to be clear, you've made some money out of the pandemic if that's what build up a bit of cash means and their reduction doesn't affect your repayments at all and they've been good tenants until COVID hit. And now you're considering evicting them. I mean, aside from the morality of that, unemployment is going to be widespread with many people unable to afford housing or to move. Be careful what you wish for. You may

find your house empty for some time. For some time. Yes. Yeah, to be clear, you are profiteering of people's suffering. You absolutely are. And then another landlord has said good tenants are like gold dust and I honestly don't believe they are so many, like most people I know rent and I don't think that most people I know are dicks who are just going around, like, tearing holes in walls and pissing on carpets. Yeah, I think I can count the people who own their properties among my friends on one hand. And, yeah, my friends aren't dicks. Yeah, like, my friends honestly aren't just, like, tearing radiators off of walls in, like, ket-induced hazes. Yeah, shitting in the boiler for a laugh. Yeah, most people I know, when they leave a property,

they've increased its value, because they've, like, fixed odd things that the last. landlord wouldn't have fixed. Yeah. Like they've put in new appliances and just left them because who cares about moving appliances? Yeah, exactly. Life's too short to be hauling a kettle around like it's your baby. Yeah. Maybe this person knows that. Maybe they also want to kick them out so that they can loot all of the free appliances and sell those on to build up a bit more cash and part of their wild game of COVID monopoly. No, bad. Very bad. Let's move on. If I were the Tory housing minister, which I'm not, but I aspire to, to be. Yeah. Then I would have

just said, wherever you live, you own that now. Good on you. Okay, yeah. But the two-way party, won't we turn my calls for some reason? Well, I mean, I'm not surprised, but, okay. Let's do another thread, shall we? Am I being unreasonable to think this

is not right. Salad with gravy? Went out for dinner tonight and ordered sausage and mash from the menu. It said it came with garden peas, but it mentioned nothing about salad. This is gross, right? It's one of our semi-regular. It's gravy okay in this instance threads? I like to do these every few months to check where the boundaries are for gravy. It's hellsies feature. It's all gravy, baby, or is it? It's a very good

feature name. Yeah. I'm glad to be part of this feature. Okay, salad. Is it all gravy, baby? Salad is not gravy, baby. Okay, but I mean, I had one thread more than we had time for, so perhaps we'll just move on. No, like, what are we talking here? Lettuce leaves, tomato, like there was bits of red onion that you get in garden salads. Like none of that is going to hold up under a heavy graver, a heavy hot graver. There is a picture. There was no lettuce. There was one, one spinach leaf.

One spinach leaf. Yeah. There were three slices. Did they cook a whole bag though? It's not wilted. It's not even like wilted under the heat of the gravy, which makes you wonder if the gravy was ever warm. I like a warm spinach.

I don't like a cold spinach. I like a cold spinach, but I don't want a spinach that's being covered in gravy. to still be fully intact because that suggests the gravy was never warm when it hit the spinach and that's bad. So it's one spinach leaf. It's three slices of tomato and it's two slices of cucumber

and then it's sausage and mash and peas. Cucumber. Cucumper and gravy is a grim thought. Yeah? Yeah. I don't know why that hits more than the others. Yeah, the single spinach leaf that hasn't even wilted under the cold gravy.

That's fine. Sad. The little chunks of tomato, fine, but the cucumber. I usually take these months netters at their word but maybe there's just a mix-up in the kitchen that seems like the explanation here The order said the order was for garden peas And they got a garden salad

It could happen Someone's peas look like s's If they're just written pee I hate to break it to you But I can see the peas on the plate The peas and the salad are both there Oh my God Yeah

Perhaps this person was being a dick To the waiting staff And they were like, look There's a pandemic So ordinarily I'd spit on their food but that's a public health issue at the moment. So just sling some shitty cucumber on their gravy, yeah? Just to mess with them.

That will show them. Let's use valuable ingredients to spite this person. There's nothing valuable about the bits of slimy cucumber. They put on the side salad they don't expect you to even eat. Even slimyer when it's covered in gravy. I think we can all imagine. Imagine all the gravy. Another good feature name for this feature.

Oh. No, this isn't gravy at all. This isn't gravy baby at all. So we hear from this red? Yeah. Good grief. Good gravy. It does seem odd, but that said, I just had mashed potatoes for the Caesar salad for dinner. No, no. No. You too are odd. You're not allowed dinner anymore. You can't be trusted. Where's the protein, is all I'll say. Where's the protein? Where's the protein? You normally get peas or salad, so wonder if she accidentally clicked something and somewhere there's a chef saying, their partner, had a right one tonight. Woman orders bad cheers and nah with gravy and fine air.

What? Is that supposed to be like the mixed up computer order? Woman orders bad cheers and nah with gravy and fine air. But she ordered sides. Let's move on. Incomprehensible. Am I being incomprehensible? Yes.

Uh, yeah. The order was taken with an old-fashioned pen and pad, so it's not that somebody has clicked something. An old-fashioned pen and pad. a curly squirrel and a, you know, one of those big quills, a big feather pen. It doesn't even look like nice gravy. It looks very runny. Let me see the gravy. Like at a stretch it might be a ju, but it looks more like a puddle, just a sad puddle.

Oh, that gravy's too thin. It's far too thin, isn't it? A gravy's too thin. What's that? A yorkshire? No, I think that's the mash and that's the sausage. Oh! Yeah, the mash is for some reason perfectly square. Mmm. You're supposed to have square sausage, not square mash.

That was like Alan Sugar level, pointless joke. It's like the bit in The Apprentice where Alan Sugar does some word play and everyone laughs because they don't want to be fired on television. I brought you here to Leicester Square, because you're going to make square sausage for me. This task is all about squares. What are you about Lord Sugar? It's all gravy. And at the end in the boardroom, I've eaten these squares, but it looks like you're the squares here.

He's a bad, Alan. You need to stop the show, if only because you're out of puns. He's been out of puns since before the show began. Going to Leicester Square for a square sausage task is too obvious. Yeah. Where would he go? He'd go somewhere completely different. He would, wouldn't he?

He would go somewhere that... We're here in front of BBC Television Centre. Where they film, the MASH report. Sausages go with MASH. This task is all about sausages. Square sausages, in fact. It's Scottish. Nish Kumar's house.

I may not like his political opinions, but I love his show on the BBC. Synergy. Synergy is one of the team names, undoubtedly. Synergy is a perfect team name. Serendipity, these are all great team names. Remember when a team called themselves decadence? Yeah, and Lord Sugar said it was gauche.

When Lord Sugar thinks that you've been inappropriately gauche, you have done gone fucked up. Nish, your team. You're moving to Team Opulence. And Rachel Paris, you're moving to Team Landlord. You're moving to Team Landlords are good, actually. That we've mixed up the boys and the girls who are all adults. We'll do another thread, shall we?

Am I being unreasonable? D.H says I'm an embarrassing nerd. I play The Sims. I have lately taken to building and have built a number of homes. I'm getting really into it and have renovated a whole town. I've created an Instagram page for my Sims game and share all my builds on there as well as my stories My next project is making an abandoned wild West town like the ones we have come across in America This will likely take a month or so and then once I'm done I'll move families into it who will then renovate the town

Last night, D.H came across my Instagram and went off on one saying I'm a complete giant nerd and he sent the picks to all his family and to his mate His mate asked if I've stopped playing Grand Marterismo Because he kept beating me D.H didn't know I was playing this car game online with his mate And now says I'm an embarrassment And I'll be the joke of his workplace What the fuck? Is it really so bad to have interests

That don't affect anyone else Even if I am a middle-aged woman? Another easy one. This person sounds cool as fuck. Playing Grand Marterism I'm the best also correct ever In which Grand Mar sooms all over town. Grand theft auto

would also be good wandering around the city wondering how lost Santos as a grand just shouting at all the angry young men no this sounds cool I want to see the Sims town yeah it sounds great I want to go on their Instagram

yeah it sounds like the kind of thing I'd stumble across on YouTube after falling into a hall of watching various let's plays yeah sounds great Meanwhile, D.H. Something telling is that D.H. has shared this with his family and he's mate, singular. Yeah. And the mate's already playing Grandma Turismo with the wife. Yeah. No, the mate isn't playing anymore because the mate kept beating the wife, so the wife stopped.

That's fair. Which the wife seems in quite good humour about. Move on to the Sims. Cool. Yeah, build a wild west town like the ones that have come across in America. It'll take a month or so. Yeah, man. I'm glad they're getting so much out of it. Yeah. I don't normally get into those kind of creative things like building on the Sims. I think I made my childhood home in the Sims and then I drowned everyone by removing the ladders from the pool. Great.

And then I sort of got bored of it, I think. Did you set fire to it? Yeah, set fire to it. What's the Grim Reaper come? And then just logged off. And logged off. Left someone in a little square foot of room that they could pee themselves and then left and then bounced. It is hard to get good tenants these days

Yeah, why will no one stay in my square foot of space Until they'd pee themselves And shout at the screen My tenant was behind on their rent So I took away the ladder from the pool And then set fly to the house Am I being unreasonable? Yeah, but those games like the Sims and Minecraft

I don't really have the patience For doing those kinds of big creations But I admire anyone who can, because it's great. Yeah. It's a great creative outlet. This Wild West Town sounds amazing. A great use of the engine. Do you think?

I mean, I take it that this person knows their husband well enough to know that if he says they're an embarrassing nerd, this is a serious thing where the husband is annoyed and is being like, oh, you're an embarrassing nerd. Because sometimes you do stuff and I'm like, oh, you're nerd, or I do stuff and you're like, nerd alert. Yeah, I don't think. And that's just how we speak to each other. I can't imagine a month has gone by without one of us calling the other a nerd. Yeah. It's fine. We're just self-aware.

It's called bantz, look it up. Such bantosaurs in this house. No. Massive bantasaurus. Isn't the phrase bantosaurus rex, you know? Bantosaurus is. The Archbishop of Bantabry. God, I'm so glad that it's not 2007

and we don't need to slot banter into everything. It's good, though, it's not 2007. It is. There wasn't a pandemic in 2007 now. So, swings and roundabout. Yeah. And in 2007, I don't know how many recessions I'd live through, but fewer. Well, your apprentice was quite fresh.

Fresh back then. The format wasn't as stale. And yet it feels like it's always been a stale format. 2007 would be like the badger era. Remember Ruth Badger, the Badger? I remember Ruth the Badger. Yeah. Ricky Martin.

Yeah, Ricky Martin, who made the best advert ever that said, keep us in the back of your mind. No, you mean the front. of your mind. If you've exhausted all other options. On the tip of your tongue, you can't quite remember it. Who was that prick from The Apprentice? Was it Enrique Iglesiasno?

Someone else. It's wild that The Apprentice, like the Inoffensive British TV show, has had such an impact on the world. Because without the British apprentice, there wouldn't have been the American apprentice. Was the British one first? I thought so Let me get one of our producers to fact check that

Steve Leon fact check please No it was devised after the success of the American original Oh so there's a lot that we can blame Alan Sugar for But we can't blame him for Trump That's fair Nonetheless it seems weird that a show that In this case came from Trump and launched his career

Is still on the earth It's still, you know, warmly received It's weird that like over the course of doing The Apprentice He was Sir Allen, then he was Lord Sugar, and then didn't he quit the Labour Party? And is he still a Lord? Like, what, the political intrigue around all of the versions of the apprentice? I'm going to look at all of the other country's apprentices

to see what political intrigue there is around them. And now he's just Mr Sugar. Now he's just Al. You can call him Al. Mr Sugar sounds like a candy brand. He can be my long-lost pal. Mr Sugar does sound like a candy brand. Yeah, like cheap candy.

Yeah. Yeah, like the sort of candy that you might get at Christmas time, you know, and it comes in a funny shape and it's all like nicely decorated, but actually once you open it, it's shite. Yeah. Sometime around mid-January when it's too dark and too wet, you're like, oh, crack into the Mr. Sugar, I guess. No, just go out in the hail, go out in the hail, in the dark. Or you really wanted a Cadbury's egg, but you hadn't got you a Mr. Sugar. Because it had that character you like on it, because somehow they've got all the franchise. shall we move on sure did we settle the question i can't remember what the question was

i think it wasn't the one about the nerd it was oh god it was about the nerd it was about the nerd yeah now um they sound great they sound a class act video games are fun video games are important yeah someone has said if he's embarrassed over your hobbies and interest the problem is with him and not with you i'm trying to imagine mighty h's reaction if i started posting about animal crossing he might laugh but it would be and I can't believe you're into this game so much what are you like kind of laugh he would be supportive and interested

supportive seems a little you know like that's good it's good to be supportive but I wouldn't necessarily expect supportive no he doesn't need to be there cheerleading every time you update your Instagram with more info about the Sims if you got really big into Fortnite

and you were like at the esports you know contests and you were like you know top rated yeah I'd think good on it yeah I'd be proud I don't really get games though, do I? I'm not really a games person. No, you're not into games.

The occasional game of Mayo Cart is about where you draw the line. I saw an advert for the ring fit and I was like, I need that in my life immediately and then spent like maybe two minutes researching it and I said just go for a run instead. Yeah, you did not buy ring fit adventures. It does look super fun though.

Yeah, it's like Nintendo's successor to the Wii fit. You remember that board that everyone had? Yeah, never had one of those. This is my time to shine It looks like way more fun than the board that everyone had I guess, it's a ring now The advert looks like so much fun

They're like doing adventures Run, run, run Oh yeah But equally I could just go for a run I could just get big into Fortnite I don't see how that's gonna help me achieve my fitness goals I don't have any fitness girls

I just enjoy moving my body Woooo Am I being unreasonable Why do people on here feel the need to be so dramatic Not a thread about a threat I saw on another thread someone telling the O.P. to move out now

over a minor inconvenience with her D.H. Am I being unreasonable to think people on here are unnecessarily dramatic? Unnecessarily dramatic. Unnecessarily dramatic. How dare you? I do enjoy that it starts by saying not a thread about a thread.

I saw another thread. Not a sub-thread. Well, it is a sub-thread. It's a sub-thread of all of mum's net Because you're saying all of Mumsnet is too dramatic. Yeah, but then they cite a specific thread when there was no need for it. It's not like if they hadn't, no one would have come along and been like citation needed. I've never noticed anyone being over-dramatic on Mumsnet.

Mumsnet of all places. No. Not here. Not in these green and fertile lands. Be gone to Twitter. The land of drama. Oh, I love to. We are a peaceful community here.

And not though. The war shall not pass our borders. You do know that Mumsnet. and Twitter users are, like, overlapping groups. It's true, yeah. You can't contain mum's letters to one place. You can't contain Twitter users to one place either. You can't. They spread.

They spread. They are super spreaders. They are. Yeah. I think mum's letters can be dramatic. Like, that's where the drama of this very podcast comes from. Like, that woman who is stealing the apples comes to mind. That was very dramatic. Yeah, and it seems maybe overblown. Or that one where somebody insisted on taking some children to an engagement party

and everyone screamed and... Yeah, they do live for the drama somewhat. Messy Bitches Living for the Drama. Exactly. It could be the name of this podcast. It could, but it's probably the name of other podcasts. I might look up to the name Messy Bitches Living for the Drama because those are the podcasts I want to listen to.

I also realised recently there are loads more Mumsnet podcasts that have sprung up since ours by people who are more famous and more successful than us. And that's fine in everything But I don't want people to think That we're the ones who copied We originated the format We just didn't do it as well We don't have the fan base

We had the ideas But maybe not the execution We're just relentlessly amateur It's an aesthetic Go and listen to Ashley Story's podcast I'm sure it's great I've got a lot of time for Ashley's story But don't ever think that we copied her

Because we didn't Because that would be really cheeky for us to do Because she's more famous than us Yeah She copied us if she knows we exist which she probably doesn't. Steering up drama here. Drama between the podcast.

Yeah, I mean, it just seems like the right thing to do. It's the right thing to do, you know? In this specific case, then, the dramatic... Move out now. Yeah, the dramatic thread where someone was told to move out. Yeah. Depends what it was. It could be a minor thing that's indicative of, like, abuse or gaslighting.

Yeah. Or, like, the straw that broke the camel's back. It could, or it could genuinely be a minor thing. It could be that, like, someone's husband made some... watery gravy and then poured it on some cucumber. That is bad though. If I served you up cucumber with shit gravy on it, would you move out?

Probably not. You started to nod and then you realised maybe that was what I wanted and you were like, I'm not going to give her this ammo. No, no, no, no, no, I've got a steak in this. I didn't have time to make a great dinner. I was busy playing The Sims. Nud-a-la-la-n-n-h-ha-n-h. Let's hear it from the thread.

Yeah, let's hear it from the thread. someone has said this thread really needs a trigger morning in the title I'm shaking crying and spluttering my tea over my keypad here and I've woken up a baby who lives three streets away that's good that's a good that is a classic parody reply that's some good satire yeah they've really really nailed it a master of the form yeah and then someone has said I think some posters the type who think nuggets of wisdom such as run now or why did you ever have kids with this man struggle to understand the complexities of relationships they also seem to be get there are real people who are clearly struggling, who are reading their words, they understand the complexities, they just don't give a damn, they're trolls. Like, if someone's had, no, the people who are like, why did you have kids with this man? It's not a genuine question. They don't think they're saying something helpful. They know they're being unhelpful.

Yeah, I don't think they expect them to be nugs of wisdom. No, nugs. They're just being trolls. Nugs of wisdom would be a good name for a podcast. Yeah. Nugs of wisdom with Simon. Bowie. And then in Nugs of Wisdom, you eat a nug and then you just say whatever comes to mind. So it's a bit ASMR like the start of the podcast, because I'm eating a noug?

Is it ASMR if you can hear someone eating nugs? Is that a thing that people like? I think people like that kind of thing. A lot of people on Mumsnet claim to have misophonia, like all of them. And they all talk about how they cannot stand chewing noises. Probably that's what's happened. Probably someone was chewing and now this person has to move out. my husband choose his food move out if he won't live on soup and soup alone he doesn't love you leave the bastard swallow it like a duck oh gross someone said i have a stable happy marriage that's lasted nearly 30 years if i had left the bastard every time it was mentioned on here we wouldn't

have made it past 30 months and if i was as suspicious about potential affairs as some people on here his dick would have dropped off for all the extramarital shagging that's not how we Dick's work, I don't think. I don't think it is. I don't think they just fall off from overuse. No, I'm not doing any extra mortal shagging, so I wouldn't know. Well, that sounds like you're trying to cover your tracks. That's what you would say. No. Move out, now. No, you're living for the drama. You've been infected. Super spreaders. Mums nesters are not only being dramatic, shaking, raging, or sobbing when they say things in a low, quiet voice or they have a silent cry. In-laws, stomp and storm in and out of rooms, men are always sulking or shouting when not banging around. Old people and

foreign types will always be aggressive and scary. No dog whistles on here. Foreign types seems like a bit of a dog whistle. Yeah, foreign is actually spelled in a very like dog whistly way as well. Oh, yeah. Weird. That's how they always spell it on here. But yeah, that's just dramatic flare in stories. In-laws slamming doors and shouting. Yeah. It's dramatic flare. You got to have some dramatic flare otherwise no one's going to read your post and then no one will answer you on mock you on a podcast. And then someone has said, some people are dramatic in real life too,

but you're right, I've never heard as much drama as people on Mumsnet. I honestly have visions of some people on Mumsnet hiding under the stairs since March, living off Pasta, their only pleasure going on Mumsnet and telling anyone how school should stay closed

and you're going to hell if you don't wear a mask. I mean, it is important to have pleasures in life. I'm sorry there's so much drama, but honestly, what are you here for? Why are you here if you don't want some degree of drama? You've got as far as, setting up an account and then commenting on a post about drama to act like you actually have no time for the drama. You're rising above the drama by joining Mumsnet and contributing to a thread

about drama. Where is your self-awareness? Mum's net's not like Am I the asshole on Reddit where there's so much drama. Like it seems like a lot of them are made up because there's so much drama. Like the one where the person couldn't go upstairs, that couldn't have been real. No, that's just not real. There's so much and I'm like the asshole. Yeah. I retweet some of the funnier ones on the Abu account. Some of them are just like harrowing.

Yeah. It's rare that things on Am I Being Unreasonable are harrowing. I think there are pockets of mums where there are people having genuinely very difficult times and I would never ever want to make light of those on a podcast. But the drama on Am I Being Unreasonable is always so petty. Yeah. I think people have intentionally like ramped it up because everyone's bored. The ramping up of the drama, the kind of fake ramping

up of the drama. Yeah. Is the point. That's why we're here. Somebody I know posted now my being unreasonable the other day to see what people said, like seeking out drama.

And then when there was no drama, I said, well, I could go and set up an account and respond to try and start a bun fight. No, I didn't, because what's the point? Like logging into eBay to up a friend's bits. Yeah, exactly, exactly like that. Except with drama. Yeah.

Locking in to tell you a friend that actually she's a horrible bitch to see if people on Mumsnet won't follow suit. Yeah, you are being unreasonable. I've never seen someone so unreasonable in my life. Leave the bastard. Yeah, it's just a drama factory. We all love the drama.

Just like Brand Stark, where messy bitches living for the drama. It's fine. Like Brand Stark. I don't know where that reference came from, but he is a messy bitch living for the drama. Brand Stark? Yeah. The disabled little boy. Yeah.

The free-eyed raven himself. Yeah. How is he a messy bitch who lives for the drama? I don't understand. I'm watching all the drama all the time. All the characters isn't really. Tyrion is a messy bitch who lives to the drama. Bron is a messy bitch who lives for the drama.

Even Jamie is a messy bitch who lives for the drama. But why is Bran Stark, who did nothing for a whole season? I don't think he was even in it for a whole season. Because he was busy learning to be at the Freehide Raven. And he's the best, even... No, this is quite the take. Do you know what it was? There was a bit where, like,

Jamie was parading around doing something. And, like, Brown has somehow snuck up on him, despite being in that big, like, medieval wheelchair. And Jamie's like, what are you doing? And Brian's, like, waiting for a friend. I think that's where I got it from. I remember that scene now. Yeah.

he spent the whole episode in that spot yeah this is like in the last season or whatever he spent the whole episode in that spot and people have said what you're doing here he's like waiting yeah yeah now i take it all back you were right he was a messy bit you live from the drama but i've never posted anything on mumsnet but i do have an account that i use so i can keep track of the threads that they're doing for this and i am just waiting yeah you are brand stock my mumsnet user account is just brand stock sitting in that courtyard waiting for his friend. Now you're absolutely right. You should leave me, the bastard, for laughing so uproiously at you. Now that I've been vindicated, I think we should do one more speed round. Am I being

unreasonable? Or can we all do it? Let's do it. We can all do it. Let's fall in love. Amma being unreasonable to ask for help, choosing a shark? Choosing a shark? Choosing a shark. Got to be a hammerhead, hadn't it? Guess so? Got to be the most useful shark. Sure. Amma being Unreasonable, where to shop as a 33-year-old? The same shops as 32 and 34-year-olds. Okay. And am I being unreasonable?

Embarrassed myself? Embarrassed myself, didn't I? You did embarrass yourself when you laughed at me. I did. I didn't remember Grant Stark was a messy bitch who lived for the drama. Yeah. Famously. Famously. He lived for the drama

after falling through a window. Yeah. Pulled a roof. Remained alive simply for the drama. So there we were. go? Spoilers for Game of Friends. No one cares about spoilers for Game of Thrones. No. Like I saw something where people being like, oh, I see that Game of Thrones hasn't stood the test of time. No one's re-watching that under lockdown. That's because it ended

about eight months ago. Yeah. That's not madmen. It's not the Sopranos. Yeah. It's fairly recent. People haven't had the time to need a re-watch. Yeah. I remembered a lot about Game of Thrones, not the specific scene where Brancel was a messy bitch who lived in the drama. but I still remembered a lot of plot point and it came back to me once you mentioned it once I explained it to you you were able to remember it I was able to recollect it yeah yeah anyway with that

yeah so this has been our The Apprentice Game of Thrones watch podcast where we watch an episode of The Apprentice watch an episode of Game of Thrones and compare them as yet no significant similarities no correlation one of these days the episodes will sink up significantly

I am at my wits end with Mumsnet though so we might need to find a new format for our podcast this sounds like a go-off And this is it This is it Nugs of Wisdom Eat Nugs, dispense wisdom Thanks for listening

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