You Are Being Unreasonable - 089 - Meet the number one buyer of passata in the UK

Episode Date: December 10, 2020

"Why do people always start with peas?!" Our not-quite Christmas episode! Among the many non-Christmas related threads we discuss this week, we worry about our increasing reliance on vaccines (without actually knowing what vaccines are) and discuss hot bread injections, a partner describes his mother as an artist despite her having no creative outlet, Sainsbury's rank us based on how much passata we buy and we discuss our ASMR of boiling passata, and some manager tries to trick us into talking about dossing while working-from-home. You can't fool us, Manager!

Hello, driving on drugs feels better when they're prescription. All I know, the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, right now. I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do.

Hello, welcome to your being unreasonable. the podcast about people being unreasonable on mumsnet.com with me, Helz. And me, Simon. It's Christmas. It is. So here it is Christmas, Christmas. Christmas. You have so many of these.

It's time for Christmas. Yeah. You have so many of these where you change the lyrics to just Christmas, to make them more festive. They weren't festive enough to begin with. Christmas bells, Christmas bells. Christmas, Christmas. Yeah, sure. Also good.

It also gets us around copyright. It does. Yeah, there's a lot of Christmas chat on Mum's Net at the moment, but I've decided to squirrel all of that away and we'll just do one Christmas episode, otherwise it will just become a whole thing. So I'll be dropping in March. Yeah.

I was more thinking, our next episode. Assuming that I've got the timing right, the one after this one will be the one that comes out closest to Christmas. Closest to Christmas. Yeah. This is just regular unreasonableness. Or not, as the case may be. Or not. Not always.

We go into this with an open mind. So what we do on this podcast is we look at the mum's net, Am I Being Unreasonable, board, and we decide if people are being unreasonable or not. We don't know, do we? Like, we go in, we have already decided people are unreasonable, and then we just pick at exactly what it is about them that we don't like. That's the premise. So, let's do the speed round.

Am I being unreasonable, Carrie Bradshaw, a cheeky fucker, right? Yeah. Real cheeky. Am I being unreasonable to think rich people should have to quarantine. Everyone should have to quarantine. I think rich people should have to quarantine even when there isn't a pandemic. Amma being unreasonable to be very annoyed at DH? No, he's very annoying.

And Amma being unreasonable, what are your concerns about kids and gaming? £100, pound voucher to be one. Yeah, I'm worried about kids catching too many Pokemon. There's loads of Pokemon, you can't handle. all those Pokemon's. Let's do a thread. Am I being unreasonable to worry about our increasing reliance on vaccines? The number of viruses seem to be increasing, Ebola, Zika, COVID-19, etc. And I'm becoming increasingly concerned that we're becoming ever more reliant on vaccines. I'm not a scientist, so not really sure what a vaccine is, or what it's made of.

But I like to keep my body as natural a state as possible, so I don't like putting ever more stuff into it. I think we need to be reflecting on human behaviour that encroaches more and more on the animal environment, and what we can do to reduce it. Population growth, insecticides, deforestation, meat eating should all be reduced. Some good points here. And that was Dr. Who was that? Dr. Joe Longlegs. But actually they are not a doctor.

They're not a scientist. Oh, no, they said they weren't a scientist. They've said they're not really sure what a vaccine is. Hmm. So for our listeners, a vaccine is something that you take to prevent yourself from getting a virus, to build them antibodies. It's something you put into your body. Yeah.

You put into your body like bread. Yeah. Just like bread. Bread and vaccines. That's what people want. Yeah, I'm a bit tired of, I mean, increasing reliance on vaccines and our increasing life expectancy. I am sick of living to 90. So I'd rather return to the times we just lived to 30. Yeah. The times we just tripped up on a rock

and then that was it. That came over because you're going to get a viral infection. You want to go back to that so that you can become the world's oldest man. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Next year. Hello. I'm just fascinated by how have they drawn? on all these things into this one post. First, they're worried about viruses, then they're talking about the animal environment, and then they're talking about population growth, insecticides, deforestation and meat eating. And I don't think all these are the same argument. No, I think the formatting doesn't come across when we read these out, but this is broken up into two

paragraphs, and the second paragraph has no relation to the first paragraph. No, it's not unrelated, which is good paragraphing, but it shouldn't be part of the same book, let alone the same. post. Yeah, I think Joe Longlegs should have started a second post. The first post should have said, I keep my body natural and I don't want to put stuff into it, vaccines. And the second post should have said, the animal environment, right? There's that writing advice, isn't there? Like, whatever you write, get rid of the first paragraph. Like, get rid of the faffing about at the start. And I think this poster should have done that. Yeah? Because, you know, less, less encroachment on the animal environment. Great. There's some poetry advice.

which is that the first and last line of any first draft are written only for the poet and don't need to remain in the poem. Yes, that's what I mean, but for prose, I guess. Yeah, so if we take out the first sentence, as it's not written in lines, the first sentence would be, I'm not a scientist, so I'm not really sure what a vaccine is or what it's made of, but I like to keep my body in as natural estate as possible, so don't like putting stuff into it. It's a strong start. You've stated who you are, what you're doing here, and what you don't like putting in your body. anything.

This would be a great opening offer in an improvise. You've got the who, the what, the where. Yeah, and then if you take the last sentence off, the post finishes by saying, I think we need to be reflecting on human behaviour that encroaches more and more on the animal environment and what we can do to reduce it. So if you take the first and last sentence off,

there's only two sentences, they're in different paragraphs and they have no bearing on each other. It's a stronger piece of writing there. Yeah. It's a stronger piece of writing there. piece. Yeah, it's minimal. I like it. It's a flash fiction. The latest thing about vaccines was yesterday people were concerned that the enzymes lutherase and like lutheran or whatever.

Yeah. I mean, the vaccine. Luther Vandross? No, lutherrays. Oh, I want the Luther Vandross vaccine that makes me immune to Luther Vandross. And then luciferase and luciferon. Oh. Yeah, from the Latin lightbringer, because they're a phosphorescent enzyme. Right. it's also like Lucifer, aka Satan. The devil? Yeah, the angel of darkness. Uh-oh. The big man.

Beelzebub's coming, and this time he's a vaccine. Yeah. The morning star. Oh my. The big one. That's cool as balls. Yeah, so people are concerned that Satan is being injected into people's veins. Well, there we go then.

I overheard some people just on the street earlier on. And this woman just kept... People on the street. Exactly. This woman just kept loudly shouting about Pfizer. She was talking to, I don't know, a neighbour who didn't seem interested, and she was just getting more and more animated saying Pfizer over and over. Trading?

Don't I? Sell Pfizer. What, no. Buy Pfizer, you fools. No, I don't know. I think this would be a good time to sell. People must be well into Pfizer right now. And what if they do the vaccine?

It turns out it does make everyone a tiny devil. That is the kind of high. power trading that goes on in our area. Yeah. Canary Wharf. We don't live in Canary Wharf. No, this was outside a cafe in a park. Yeah, so should we hear from the thread? Mm-hmm.

So basically you think viruses are a good thing to coal the human herd and increase the animal population. Hope you don't take any paracetamol, don't use moisturiser, don't have any medical interventions through your life, given that none of those are natural. Oh, yeah, this is a good point. Like, so you don't wear glasses? you don't wear shoes. Yeah. You don't partake in anything that's not natural. Yeah, like your mattress did not spring fully formed from the mattress well.

No, bread. Bread doesn't just appear. No, you did say bread and vaccines are the same. Bread and vaccines are the same. Yeah, bread contains an enzyme and so does a vaccine. They're trying to inject bread into us, people. Wake up. Like that woman in a different episode who absorbed pasta.

They're all being vaccinated with bread. I don't want little loaves or baguettes. in my bloodstream. Oh my God, a little syringe shaped like a tiny baguette would be so cute for people who are scared of getting vaccines. Like, everyone loves a baguette, right? Everyone loves a baguette. Yeah.

The French, you know? Me. You. Someone said, you're so concerned you can't even do basic research to discover what a vaccine is. Yeah. Sometimes when you've got a real fear, you don't want to know anything about it. Yeah. I don't want spiders injected into me.

and I'm not going to search for spiders to find out what they are. Yeah. I mean, I don't want a string of dentists injected into me. No, we all have our thing. Just dentists coursing through my veins. If the cure for the COVID was eating a spider, I think I'd just stay inside. Really?

Hmm. I think I might encourage you to grow up. I would sneak it in... Not eating a live spider. I would roll it up in some dough, and I would serve it to you, part of a delicious knocking and you would not know and then once it occurred. They say there's that playground thing that you eat like six spiders a year or something

in your sleep. Yeah. And they just crawl on in there. I don't think that's true. Okay. I have to believe that's not true. I don't think they crawl on in but I might have helped a few in. And you fall asleep. I pick your nose. Dropping spiders in my mouth one by one like M&Ms. I just like to see how many I can get in before it wakes you. I wake up with a mouth full of spiders. I've got a cupboard that I've told you is full of all your Christmas presents

so you can't go in there but it's just an alarming tally chart of all the times I've managed to get the most spiders in. Unboxes of spiders. Yeah. For pity's sake, did you not study history at school? That's someone talking to the O.P.

Death is natural, so presumably you're cool with that outcome. Well, yeah, I mean... I mean, it sounds like they are. Yeah, it sounds like they're advocating for death. They're on death side. Someone says, Smallpox was a killer.

it's been eradicated because we had a vaccine and in the end it died out because there were no unvaccinated human hosts without the vaccine people would still be dying from it this is a good point she says that the number of viruses increasing but if you do vaccines properly they go down like smallpox yeah and then somebody said so insecticides and meat eating contribute to infectious viruses and then a confused emoji and then said what a load of shite really it's just people saying like what on earth are you on about and talking about all the

things that viruses have helped with and the OP doesn't appear to be coming back. Good. I restores my faith in mum's letters. The OP has simply died because they did not get vaccinated. Yeah, they've got measles, mumps or rebella. All three. Yeah, the opi just never returned. Top troll. Let's do another thread. I'm being unreasonable to be freaked out by Sainsbury's doing this. Has anyone else had a mail shop from Sainsbury's with a mini advent calendar of vouchers in it? Apparently, according to this, I was the number one top buyer of Pissata this year. Really? In the whole of the UK? We're a family of four, so we're not feeding the 5,000 or anything. I'm a bit freaked out that Sainsbury's think I want to know this.

And actually, I'd rather have a spreadsheet showing my ranking on all of the 750 other different products I apparently bought this year. Boggles, I did lockdown shopping for mother-in-law and two elderly neighbours. You're being unreasonable. We know that. companies do this, but don't flaunt it in our faces. Sorry, that was, you are not being unreasonable. You are being unreasonable. That's what you get for succumbing to loyalty cards. The number one buyer of Passata. The number one buyer of Pasarta in the whole of the UK. I wouldn't be bragging about that because Pasarta was the sort of thing that in mid-March, it was really difficult to get hold of. Yeah, it sounds like you.

It sounds like you bought all the Pasarta. I think the number one seller of Pasarta has to be like Frankie and Benny's. I don't think they... They must get through so much passata. I don't think they're nipping down to Sainsbury's with a nectar card. They've got to get the pasta somewhere. I've never eaten at a Frankie and Benny's. Oh, it's a lot of pasta.

What do you want for your starter? Pasarta. Nice, good rhyme. What do you want for your main? Pasarta also. That's not as good a rhyme, but it's just a fact. It sounds like the sort of cooking that I did a lot of as a first year student where I wasn't very interested in food, and I wasn't very good at cooking at that point.

So really, I just warmed through a lot of pasta and then threw mixed herbs at it and poured it over pasta day in, day out. Yeah, that's what Frankie and Benny do. Yeah, I think that's why I've never eaten there because I'm sure they don't do that, but it doesn't seem much better than that. But you know what I mean?

It seems like there should be some corporate body that is the number one buyer of pasta. But from Sainsbury's. Sainsbury's will only be using the data on who's bought Pissata from them, surely. They're not taking it on aggregate. You're saying it's cheaper to buy it wholesale than one-by-one at Sainsbury? Mm-hmm. That's why my business is failing.

There are so many different types of passata. Do they mean across all the types of passata? So if she bought like a branded one and then the one with herbs in it and then like the onion one, or is it just like of that specific one? And there's someone else who bought the most of a different pissata. The specific one seems like the easiest to do in terms of analytics. Yeah, it does. Like deciding who is the number one buy of psalter regardless of prasota regardless of

It feels like you need to hire someone to do that, that analytic work. Yeah. And I don't know if those things are doing that. So if it's that, maybe she just buys a very niche passata that a lot of people aren't buying. Maybe she only buys one with onion in it, and that's weird. Like, just buy an onion, you loon. Maybe they make her cry. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, where, where, we're, I'm cutting onions.

I'm the Basarta Queen of Britain I don't understand So the person has a loyalty card Yeah And I think That's key isn't it Dropping that in as the very final bit Like

Yeah But Sainsbys aren't sending me I shopped at Sainsbys a lot And Sainsbys aren't sending me Things like you're the number one buyer Of chicken guisons You always paint yourself to be someone

Who, oh my love What? Everyone loves guisons, especially me. Yeah, no one loves gougon's as much as you. That's the other thing, isn't it? Maybe. All the people who are buying loads of Pissata just don't have nectar cards,

and she's the number one buyer of Pissata who also has a nectar card. Yeah. I'm going to make an elaborate vendiogram of all the possible things that this could mean. I think this is the price of having a loyalty card. Yeah. It's like they're tracking your purchases

to see how loyal you really are. Oh. And to what tomato-based food stuff? Yeah, okay. Fine. I don't know why she's so, like, why does she make excuses about the fact she bought 750 different products? That doesn't seem that wild to me over the course of a year

because that would just need to be a very slight variation on the usual one of something that you get all the time. I don't have any loyalty cards, but I would like to see that data for myself. Why? Because they'd be fun. And that's the other thing that's weird. She actually seems to want to see that date. so she thinks that data is fun. Yeah, I'd love to see that data.

And yet she's really annoyed about the invasion of her privacy that comes with being the number one buyer of Pissata. I think she's just embarrassed because this isn't the person she perceived herself to be. Yeah, this is... If it had been that she's the number one buyer of, I don't know, like caviar, champagne. This is, when all this week, people were sharing their Spotify-wrapped, you know, year summaries from Spotify. Yeah, I didn't share mine because it was embarrassing.

And yet, when... John Sainsbury comes to your door and says, you bought the most passata. People are too embarrassed to say. So what I'm saying there is, my Spotify rapped, I looked at that and I thought, I don't need to share that. That doesn't fit with my personal brand. And that's exactly what this poster could have done, but instead they started a thread. You seem the most taken aback that my fourth most listened to artist was Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross. I found that very surprising.

They do a lot of soundtracks. It's not just the nine-inch nails. Sure. I was just surprised. I wasn't judging if that's what you're thinking. No. No, never. Never.

Never. Never. Yeah, my number one artist was Pasata. My number one track was just a four-hour loop of someone pouring passata into a pan full of hot oil. The onions are frying and then the passata goes in. My ASMR of boiling pasta. Weird. Yeah, it's a mixed herbs still.

Yeah, the Wap Passata remix. Wet ass Pasarta. Couple me solemn, he dripped down the side of me, but it's Pasarta. Getting Pasarta on the floor. Neckern. Someone said, oh, good Lord, I really do hope this doesn't become a thing. I really do not need to be reminded that I have a problem where pecans are concerned. Or the amount of broccoli I have bought in misguided and always fruitless attempts to get DS2 to eat something green.

Well, don't start with broccoli. What? Why haven't you start with broccoli? Start with broccoli. Peas go down smooth. Why do people always start with peas? Why do people always start with peas? I remember being somewhere as a small child.

Not that small. Like seven or eight, you know, the age where adults are starting to really get frustrated for the kids who won't eat their peas. And an adult saying, the first person to eat five peas wins. and like half of us around the table we're just like we eat peas like that's not five peas is like a fork full of peas and then the other half of the table

we're like well we're not going to win are they because they've all just done it in a runner so I'm not going to eat any peas why would I bother it needs to meet everyone who eats five peas gets a prize yeah exactly not the first person everyone who eats five peas

gets a bowl of peace you're not going to get the kid who's never eaten peas suddenly diving in, frenzied, thinking, oh, they had no skin in the game before, but where there's a prize at stake. I just think broccoli's a bad place to start on greens. I think broccoli has a reputation. No. Broccoli's delicious.

I know that, and you know that, but the kids, I think broccoli's up there with sprouts and the kids. I don't think that's true. I think that you're saying... Anti-vege march. I hope you don't start telling kids that broccoli's up there with sprouts. I've been telling every kid I see. That's creepy.

Very creepy behaviour. Somebody said, freaked out, you must lead a very sheltered life. And then the OP came back and said, oh, I do, I really do. There's a self-awareness there. I appreciate that. Staying in and eating Pasata. It's actually a very friendly thread after that. People are saying, I didn't get one.

Someone said, you're unlikely to be the number one buyer of Pasarta. All right. A man who's joined the thread. Probably not a man. Maybe they say that to everyone. Oh, you said it to all the girls You look like a woman who likes her pussata My name's Simon

And then other people are sharing What they were the number one buyer of, ginger Wow Yeah, great Sweet corn No, I'd never be the number one buyer of ginger or sweet corn Yeah, I wouldn't want the three of those together That would be a very bad, sad source

Let's do another thread, shall we? Am I being unreasonable? working from home or not is anyone spending their working from home days mainly dossing and actually not feeling guilty about it thinking about all the times they stayed late in the office and didn't take a lunch break of crazy workload and by being unreasonable to think this is acceptable

I refuse to comment on the grounds that it may convict me I feel like this was written by the person who leads the organisation that I'm about to leave as a trap seems like a honey trap it seems like a distrustful employer has tried to canvass moms netters to back up their feeling that unless they can physically see each of their employees, then nothing's getting done.

Does anyone else work at Nat West and not feel guilty about Dussing off working from home? Anyone? Anyone? Has anyone else been running an illegal scam from their employer who's actually been working very hard to support them in these uncertain times and gave them at least one phone number for a well-being service and a link to a meditation app, which you have to pay for. Has anyone else been guilty of theft from their employer? Like, it really, yeah, this has got to be a trick, right? It seems like a trap, and I'm not answering.

Or it's a bad journalist, like a bad daily mail journalist has posted this, then where people are like, oh yeah, I had a nap on company time, it'll be a daily mail front page. Britain's sleep walks into crisis. Yeah, accepting the premise that there is a certain amount of time theft that goes on from working from home, it would be infinitesimally small compared to the amount of wage theft that companies take on on a daily basis just to get by. Yeah.

Like the amount of, you know, goodwill that employees give in working through breaks, in working over lunch, yeah, in working beyond their contracted hours. Absolutely. Like, I reduced my hours, so I work longer days, four days a week, and then don't work on a Friday. but I am doing slightly fewer hours than would be a full-time role. But it's made no odds to how much I work on those four days, because that's what I was giving them anyway. Like, I was giving them that much time just for free

and not getting the Friday to have a nap and not feel guilty and not have to go on mum's that and be like, oh! And let's not forget, like, sometimes it astounds me that we're all still working through this pandemic. Yeah. Through this global pandemic, we're all working. Some of us are going into work. That's insane.

Sorry, that's able-ist language. It is ridiculous. Yeah. It is. I cannot get my head around it, but at all, but at all. And we're working at all. Companies should be grateful. And perhaps that's the other thing that this could be.

It could be somebody who's in a position where they have to go into work. Those people are disproportionately people who are already structurally not as well off as others. Who is just feeling fucked off. about the fact that some people are at home, it might be that and they're just trying to trap people so that they can feel vindicated in their hatred of those who are working from home. And if that was the case, yeah, okay, whatever. Like, if someone who's being forced to go into a business that has no reason to have staff in is mad at me thinking I'm slacking off, that wouldn't bother me. But I think this is more likely to be a journalist or an employer who hates working from home.

It seems highly unlikely to me that it's genuinely an employee who's come on mum's at to be like, I was working quite hard in the office and so I haven't done any work for almost one year because also there would come a timer if you were never doing any work at home like you've overplayed your hand It's too much It's been going on for a long time

Yeah someone said I seem busier than ever I need to separate home and work a bit more I love being able to catch up on house stuff in my break and not having to retrieve parcels from my neighbours Well this is true like I work in H.E. And now like not me I'm professional service but a lot of academic staff are like recording lectures on video

then going through them then delivering the lecture with the video content added on and it's more work than ever oh yeah I feel so awful for academics it just seems like an unbearable time for academics teachers

yeah and I work in IT which is enabling all these technologies so it's not exactly been a walk in the park no no it's yeah and you often find me looking at my work emails at times well outside of working hours and saying what are you doing get off of there and I'm just reading this report so that I don't have to do it in the morning it's wage theft and I ring the gong to say wage theft oh we should get a gong let's get a gong everybody get a gong yeah everyone's saying that they can't switch off working from home

and that they still have loads of work to do and they're doing that in varying degrees of obviously being fucked off about the fact they can't switch off to being smug about the fact that they can't switch off. And then someone said, it's your attitude that gives working at home a bad name and has made it difficult in the past from managers to agree with it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think working from home is a good opportunity to become the number one passata buying the UK. Just out buying pasta on company time. You can buy more pasta and make more pasta and eat more pasta throughout the day. Bus makes a dollar. I make a dime. I buy passata.

on company time. Exactly. If you're trying to reach that goal. Yeah, why not? Let's do one more thread. Am I being unreasonable to find new partner's description of his mother, annoying? When we first met a few months before lockdown, he described her as an artist and his father as a businessman.

Fair enough, it turns out his father owns a shop that sells odds and ends. But his mother doesn't actually have skill as an artist. Apparently she is a deep thinker and doesn't have a conventional outlet. for her artistry other than her thoughts. Secretly, I find much of her conversation deeply boring self-indulgence, but she is basically a nice person, so I went along with it at gatherings

and thanked God when she moved on to someone else. Other than his blindness towards his mother's artistry, he's a lovely man, so she must have done something very right in raising him. I don't know why it annoys me so much. Yeah, my partner says his mum's an artist, but I found her art trite and derivative.

She'd done a sculpture that was basically just Rodan's the thinker in a slightly different pose. Like, am I going, am I missing something? See, I mean, that would be a catty thread, and that's where I thought it was going when I opened this thread. But then it gets to it where it's like, she doesn't have any artistic skills, like that's very subjective. And has no outlet for her artistic thoughts.

I'm like, okay, I've got off. philosophy degree and I'm willing to call bullshit on this. No outlet. No outlet for her thoughts. Yeah, so she's not even sharing her artistic. So, oh yeah, well, you're up to you, Betty. Oh, I'm just thinking about art. Oh, do you want to explain it?

I don't have the outlet to explain. Okay. You know, I don't know. Michelangelo, he had that block of marble in his workshop for years, for months. And every day he'd go in and look at it and then go home. Until the day, he carved the Statue of David out of it. Yeah, but by having the marble, it seemed like he had a plan for some sort of outlet. That is the first step.

She doesn't even have that. He had a plan on a commission, and he was going into a workshop. Yeah, she's just at home, just thinking. I was about to say pontificating, but she's not, because that would be an outlet. Just staring at the wall. It's very sad, really. It makes her sound like a character from some sort of Gothic novel. Perhaps she could write one as an outlet.

trapped in the attic. Trapped in her own artistic brain. Your mother's an artist. Like, I know over the last year, actually, a lot of us have struggled with finding the outlet that we would ordinarily have for our creative thoughts and practices. And so perhaps if she's only met this person during this period, like, that might be a factor. She says it was a bit before lockdown, but, you know, everyone could have an off period and then suddenly a pandemic hits. Yeah. So, yeah, it's only been a year.

But if it turns out that she's never, ever, ever done any sort of artistic anything. I guess. I don't think the person's in a position to judge. The O.P.'s in a position to judge. You don't know. She might have done art. Maybe she's... I mean, your partner knows his mother better than you.

No. Only O.P. Never partner. She's an artist. Also, that's really awkward. Like, if someone said, oh, so-and-so is an artist and you were like, show me your art, you'd be a right, dick. Oh, yeah. And then they don't have...

any art. They've done anything. Like, but all they have and they feel so uncomfortable because you're shagging their son and demanding to see their art and there's a pandemic. You're, yeah. It's tough. You've got one hand just grabbing their son's bum in front of them and the other one just on your phone scrolling mum's there as you're about to start a thread about how you haven't seen any art yet. Said she was an artist. There's any art on her all. I haven't seen it. It's tough to meet parents. We worked that documentary about it last night.

That documentary, The Happiest Season, starring Kristen Stewart. And Dan Levy, and Mary Holland. Yeah, and someone else was in it. Someone else was in it. Yeah. The one we didn't like. The one who... The one who was written to have no redeeming features

despite being one of the romantic leads. Very odd. Someone who says, maybe he didn't want to say housewife. Artist is harmless enough. Those aren't the same thing, though. But what did the OPE want the partner to say? Yeah, she's a thinker. Yeah.

She's nothing? She's nothing. My father... She didn't have a profession, so she has no value as a person. My father is a businessman, and my mother is a simple fool. Yeah, my father runs Merrill Lynch, my mother. Exists.

Yeah. Probably has some internal thoughts. Someone said that, maybe he didn't want to say house, why artist is harmless enough and the AP came back and said, I don't think this is it. We both agree that being a homemaker is a life choice as valid and valuable as any other profession. I myself worked long hours in order to support my future, but we give it up in a heartbeat for marriage and kids.

I think what irks me is he seems to genuinely believe that she's an undiscovered talent, had it not been for life circumstances. She definitely believes this version of herself. Maybe I'm just not a very nice person. I'll nail on the head there. Yeah, I'm not on an old piece side at all. And I do think that it's... I'd rather refer to someone as an artist and have them prove me wrong.

Then there's nothing. And then have egg on your face. And then... When it transpires that they are a person. Yeah. Thoughts and feelings. I don't want to refer to a person as nothing. Because everyone has value.

Yeah. I don't know why you'd be worried that the person that you're dating is kind. He seems kind. Should I kill him? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I also think it is entirely possible that by life circumstances different, she might have found an outlet for her artistry.

Like, that's entirely possible. I think there is something very funny about the idea that she has no outlet for her artistry. There is something inherently a bit odd about saying you're an artist and not having any outlet at all. But I can also see how life circumstances would make that the case. Yeah. No need to be a dick, O.P., he said she was the number one by her Pissata in the UK. But I didn't see a single passata when I went to their house. I went for every cupboard.

It's because she's used all of it on big canvases. Big tomatoy Jackson Pollux. Very textual art. Yeah, and that texture would change as time goes on because it would grow and evolve and become mulled. I'm actually quite into this. This sounds like David Lynch's visual art. It sounds like something that I would make, were I a visual artist,

which I'm not. So we can all be grateful that I'm not wasting pissata. Should we do another speed round? Yeah. Amma being unreasonable, John Lewis, Cheedle. Yeah, you are. Too specific. Amma being unreasonable to ask what the function of these adult pyjamas is.

You wear them to go to bed. Not if you're a child. If your child, take those right off. They call them pajamas. Amma being unreasonable, D.H. Day off. Yeah? Let him have a day off. Yeah. Let him get up. Because I've had D.H. is Ferris Bueller.

and Amma being unreasonable to think the Catholic church should take itself off off the whole thing? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. There are all those abuse scandals. Yeah, just take yourself off. Yeah, just pop off. We've got the Protestants, we'll make do.

Well, we'll make do with that. A little less guilty. A little less guilty than they make you feel. I think we can't it there, can't me? Do you have anything to plug? No, I have an article coming out, but it's coming through peer review, so it's taking ages. Oh, well, just plug it on the Twitter when it's ready. I've got a tiny story about a horse out this week.

It's only 50 words long, and it's about a horse. You've had a play about Princess Diana out? I did. And a little queer flash fiction. And a little queer flash fiction? Yeah. You've had loads out. Yeah, go on linktree.

Linktruc.e.combe. No, linktruc.e.e. Linktruc.comte.com slash Helen Seulis Bowie. Yeah. Great. Thank you for listening. Yeah, we'll be back in two weeks with another you being unreasonable. Traditionally, Christmas is when we do our live show. So perhaps we should look at doing some sort of live stream.

Yes. Yeah, we'll put something on Twitter. Let us know if you're interested. And if you're not interested, that's fine. Also last, no. We'd rather know, so that it's not just us doing this into YouTube to nobody. Very scary. Thank you for listening.

Bye. Thank you. Except for maybe when I think of how I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, right now, right now.