You Are Being Unreasonable - 094 - Zooming with a 70 year-old beagle and spotting penises in the background

Episode Date: February 19, 2021

"Opening a big coat and it's just full of dog collars." Everyone is mad at runners and Mumsnet is folding in on itself by discussing GETTING RID OF THE AIBU BOARD. Our livelihood! This week a friend is accused of being beloved Peanuts character, Snoopy, during Zoom and Microsoft Teams meetings, nights out with as the only woman in a man-dominated workplace, how to deal with stray penises in friends' photos, a radical suggestion to remove AIBU and restructure Mumsnet entirely into thematic categories, and Simon is offering church offices and roles for money. So Simony.

Hello, driving on drugs feels better when they're prescription. All I know is the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful. I feel fantastic and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day, when I felt the way that I do right now, right now. I feel fantastic and I never felt as good as how I do right now, except for maybe when I think about I felt that day when I felt the way that I do right now. Hello, welcome to you

Our Being Unreasonable, the podcast about people being unreasonable on mumsnet.com with me, Howells? And me, Simon. What up, Simon? Sorry, we're late. We made it. Just one day late. We're good.

Oh, we had to... We just went running for a fortnight. We went to get... From the previous podcast. We had to run. That fortnight of friend really took it out of us. Yeah. Bad joined.

during a pandemic. Hoof, whof. You wouldn't want to be a runner during a pandemic. People are so mad at runners again. Do you remember people were mad at runners during the first pandemic? People made up runners during the first pandemic. The first lockdown, I mean. Yeah, they're not for a bit during the summer.

Yeah. And then... Now they're mad again. And they mad at them again? Well, on MomsNet they are, yeah. I guess there was a while when people didn't go out as much and the streets were left to the runners. It was the runners city.

Yeah, and then there was a while during the summer where everyone went to the pub, except the runners. So no one really cared about the runners because they were all just in a beer garden and no one was going running in a beer garden except for toddlers left unattended. But now, just as the winter is passing and I'm about to get back into running,

people are mad at the runners again. They are, very much so. But that's okay, that's all contained to the coronavirus board, which we don't look at because we're not here to talk about people's genuine anxieties. Like, we're not here to punch down. But I do think the people on the coronavirus board who just hate runners,

I don't know. I don't know how far you can blame anxiety for that and how much of it is being a dick. No, because we're here to look at the, am I being unreasonable board. We are. Look through the threads, see what people are saying, and see if they are indeed being unreasonable. It's been a thing that I've mentioned a few times. As this situation has gone on, people have run out of things to be unreasonable about, and so they're getting more and more and more granular. But this week, there does seem to be some diversity in the very petty problems. Not everyone is mad at the supermarket and not everyone's upset about it. delivery there's been a little bit of a renaissance of the real what we come here for great so with that should we do a speed round let's crack on am i being unreasonable friend got job she knew i wanted the dog eat dog world amma being unreasonable men peeing why so loud yeah i don't think

men should pee no hold it in just hold it you should have gone before you met a woman Am I being unreasonable to be annoyed that my sister has sent me postal flowers and... Yes. And am I being unreasonable to ask how much debt you are in? Yeah, a little. It's a bit personal. Student debt isn't real debt. No, as I've explained to lots of people. I remember explaining this before we bought this place,

people who really had no reason to care about my student debt asking if that was okay. And I was like, I've got it now. So I don't know what you intend to do about it if it's not. It's not a real debt. Yeah, it's fine. I can't call the student loans company and say, I made a mistake. I've got this debt for a philosophy degree. So as I'm not using it, just take the debt away.

I'm not using it. And I've forgotten everything I learned. So what did I pay for? We're getting back onto fees discourse like last week. Yeah, we are. Should we do a thread? Am I being unreasonable? A friend accused me of being so.

Snoopy during Zoom slash Teams meetings. I am a long-term mum's net name change user, English second language. So to get on with it, I express to a friend, I judge colleagues' background, e.g. type of wallpaper, paint colour, decor, etc. during Zoom teams meetings, such as a laptop not on a desk or a senior staff member with no home library or dedicated workspace. Am I the only one who snoops into others' houses during meetings? A very contemporary question. Very contemporary of the moment. It is.

But a point of order. Yeah. A friend accused me of being Snoopy. Woodstock, your friend Woodstock said, hey Snoopy. They accuse you of being a beagle, a 50-year-old beagle, beloved by adults and children alike. I don't think that the 50-year-old beagle would care about other people's wallpaper. The type of wallpaper, no dog cares about that. Snoopy just wants a quiet life.

No, I think if Snoopy was still with us, God rest his soul. He wouldn't be looking in the background of Zooms and Teams meetings. No. He'd be sleeping on top of his dog house. Why would he be in a Zoom meeting? Who invited Snoopy's for a meeting? I know. What is the agenda? Blinis. Seems like someone who'd like a Zoom meeting. Okay. Do you think... Pepper Mint Patty? Oh, Peppermint Patty would be holding all the meetings. Yeah. Peppermint Party. Passy. No, I'm thinking of Marcy. Marcy would hold all the meetings. Peppermint

Patty would simply go to them. Marcy is the quiet one. And Peppermint Patty's a loud one. Yeah. Peppermint Patty would want to see people in person. Yeah. But Marcy would say, no, you can't do that. Yeah. We'll be on Zoom instead. Peppermint Patty would be trying to go for a picnic and Marcy would be saying, no, the cops could stop us for that. Yeah. Yeah. Charlie Brown, you blockhead. We can't move in two meters of each other. Yeah, but I think... It would make it easier for him. to kick the football and Lucy not pull it out from under him because she'd have to be further away. Aren't they the same household? Lucy and Charlie Brown? No, Lucy is Linus's sister. Oh,

of course. Sally is Charlie Brown's sister. Silly me. I'm sorry, I messed up. I should have known. I don't believe you don't know the peanuts trivia. The 50-year-old comic strip peanuts. You know how we only ever see the outside of Snoopy's kennel? Yes. What do you think he's will paper is like. I don't think he has any wallpaper. Oh, this person would be so judgy. So to pull it away from peanuts. To pull it away much like the football. A friend accused you of snooping. Being snoopy is not a thing. It's a thing for one dog who we've discussed at length. And probably other dogs who have been named after the first dog. Yes, and dogs that came after that dog. And if you're particularly unkinded... And snoo-

Some babies. Yeah. I will call my child Snoopy, after Snoopy. And Snoop Dog, I don't think anyone can deny that he is Snoopy. Snoop Lion? Yeah, Snoop Lion. All the time Snoop Dog has changed his name. I don't think he's ever been Snoopy, the 50-year-old Beagle.

I'm describing him with an adjective. Snoopy, he is Snoopy. You are hells, you are helsy. I'm Simon, I'm Simon. Simony? Isn't Simony a ture? thing, isn't it a bit like, sort of... Is it like an ancient tax fraud?

Yeah, it's like some sort of biblical crime. Yeah, it's the act of selling church offices and rules. Friend accused me of being simony on teams calls. Every time you're on a video call for work, I hear you trying to sell church offices and roles fraudulently. I'm like, oh, he's being so simonyy. So, my dad's a minister. I don't want some ecclesiastical roles.

Just give me a shout. 50 quid. Opening a big coat and it's just full of dog collars. Yeah, so you're still... Shall we move on? And this friend is not Snoopy. Should we move on to the next question? Can we just pull them apart a little bit for what they actually do?

So this is a real problem that people are judging other people's backgrounds. They're judging them for having no home libraries. Yeah. No home libraries. Well, if you've got a home library, but that's not where your laptop is, because your home library is a sacred space only for books, precious books. I think the way I position my camera at the desk, the home library is just out of shot.

Oh, you see, where when I sit, you know, somewhere near a bookcase, I tilt the camera so that it's facing the bookcase, not because I'm trying to make people look at my bookcase, just because I like to sit at a jaunty angle. No, I'm straight on. Well, yeah, no home libraries or dedicated workspace. They're very different things. And also, if people have two adults working from home

and some children homeschooling, they can't all have dedicated workspaces, can they? You can't be like, we're a family of four, so we need, I would say, eight bedrooms so that we can have an office each. This is why there's features on Zooms and Teams to blur your background. Yeah. So that dickheads don't judge you.

your life. I'll see your bed. Elderly dogs can't comment on what you're doing. Exactly. Yeah. If I had the bed visible in a call, I think I would do something to try and mask that because I don't think my colleagues need to see where I sleep. That feels weirdly intimate and I think it would destroy my chances of ever having a peaceful night again. But other than that, I'm like, well, who cares?

Now I know that there are people who might be judging me for not having home libraries. I think the problem comes if there's a power dynamic differential. so if it's a manager judging your background or a senior manager that's bang out of order if it's someone on your level it's rude but not a big deal nbd in my old job the most senior person in the organisation hated working from home and was very open about it and often had a background that was like the most stark kitchen i've ever seen it was just like it was like a show home kitchen and it had no signs anyone had ever cooked a meal there or shown it any attention It was just, I think it was an attempt to make it look like a tidy space, but it just, it had real like Carrie Bradshaw, oh, I just stole sweaters in my oven, undertones.

And I was always wondering, like, where do you keep your utensils? I admire the people who have gone into the office and taken a photo of what would be their background if they were in the office, and then they use that as a Zoom or Teams background. You admire the people who made an unnecessary journey so that they could showboats. One person who has done this. Are they within walking distance of the office? I don't believe so. Right, so they made an unnecessary journey. I assume they had to go into the office to pick something up or something.

To pick up a picture. So my current job is officeless, and so everyone works from home all the time, even when there's not a pandemic happening. And when I started, part of my induction was saying, you know, it is really helpful to have dedicated workspaces so that you're not working from your bed because that disturbs your sleep and it messes up your boundaries

or try not to work from your living space because it's nice to be able to step away at the end of the day and then sort of tacked on to that was like, but people who live in a lot of high-density cities probably don't have that option. So at the very least, just close your laptop. Unless this person works for some sort of office that is the office of people who live in big houses remotely

where they deal with big remote houses, they need to grow up. You can't judge people for this. They're giving Snoopy a bad name. Am I being unreasonable to pretend I didn't notice my friend sent me a dick-pick of her husband? Cute photo of her toddler and baby in the bathtub and hubby's penis floating in the right-hand corner. Not overly obvious, but not invisible either. Do I make a joke about it?

Or more elegant to ignore the whole thing? It's a bit of a funny predicament. Uh-oh. Oh, no. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Oh, no.

Uh-oh. Oh, no. Oh, beans Oh no No Maybe this is this woman's kink Maybe if you look closely Every picture she's ever shared

Has got background dick in it She gets off on it That would be something You're having a usual suspects-esque flashback Thinking back on all the clues All the evidence was always there Like a picture of him You know doing the sort of like

Oh I'm so manly Here I am at a barbecue with some tongs But hang on In among the sausages Is that, he's cock? What does? It's his penis. Is that, as the OP calls it, the whole thing? The whole thing.

I know the OP's describing the situation as the whole thing, but I want to believe that the OP means the whole thing. Should I ignore the whole thing, or should I just ignore the balls? Yeah, just ignore the balls. Focus on the shaft. Yeah, I can see your husband's shaft, and then the person looks at it, like, his balls are in this too. What is this message about?

You need to crop your photo. toe's people. You need to crop out the balls. You need to crop out the balls. You can cover the balls with little emojis. Is that the same emoji twice for consistency? Or is it two different emojis? It's winking face and...

Angry face. Angry face. Face with shades. Face with shades. Face with shades is the tip. Oh, no. So the bit that's revealed is... There's three emojis and then there's just like a flash of cop.

A flash of shaft. Oh, a flash of cock. It's the detective show I never knew I needed. You're out of line, DCI, cock. You're a renegade. We don't want you on the precinct. Handing your badge and gun, cock. Is that a euphemism?

Gets his cock and balls out. No, it's not my... No. That's enough from you, Cuck. Damn it, you get results. Oh, I'm so giddy. No, this is a problem. I love that the O.P. is worried about elegance.

It doesn't matter about being elegant. Anything you do is more elegant than accidentally sending a dick pick. I think it's more elegant to ignore it. Yeah. If it's a close friend, you might want to say, don't send that to other people. Yeah. If it's not a close friend, if it's like a worker crittance or something, just ignore it. Yeah.

If it's close friends, I would definitely say like, oh, I'd be careful before I send that to the grandparents. Yeah, and then if they say why, you say, your husband's penis is on shit. Your husband's penis is on display. Oh, no, I wouldn't say that. I would just send back an emoji of an obogee. And I would leave them to deal with it. They'd be like, I don't understand. Just let them puzzle it out.

What if it's not the penis? It says it's the penis floating in the right-hand corner. Not overly obvious, but not invisible. But what if it's not? What, so it's like a bath toy? What if it is like a bath toy? It's like a little toy submarine. Or the baby's arm.

That is a thing. What if it's the baby's arm holding an apple? That's what you should send back. You should be like, is that the baby's arm holding an apple? Or is that your husband's cock? Or is your husband just pleased to see me? Yeah, and then you'll not. never hear from this person again because they'll think you're hitting on their husband or some

sort of pedo or both or you've yeah but you'd have had a laugh I would judge someone if their husband's penis was on the background of their zoom lot team's meeting well if it was uh tiled over and over and it looked like a cool sort of like kitschy print and then on closer inspection like the carpets in the shining where you're like oh yeah it was the cock yeah it was phallic I A lot of things are phallic without being penises. Should we open the thread? Yeah. Someone said floating by itself, no longer attached to its owner.

No, that is a problem. You shouldn't make a baby share a bath that's severed penis. That's going to give them some real trauma. Yeah. No, that is a problem. Yeah, that's a real... That's some Hannibal Lecter shit. It is.

Someone said, oh dear, how grim. I'd tell her ASAP in case she was also circulating the photo out to others, her parents, etc. And for his sake, surely if you seem to feel... find it funny. She will. That's not quite how humans work though, is it? You can't just be like, lo, this is funny. Yeah, just because I found something funny. You don't mean everyone else finds it funny. Oh, you mean he happened to be naked in the bathroom at the same time? I hope she didn't send it to her mother. Well, I assume the baby was having a bath with the husband. Yeah, like, you wouldn't just lob a baby in a bath all by themselves. You might want someone,

like, find a way to make the bath a much smaller area for the baby to make it safer. Yeah, an economical use of bathwater. I mean, everyone's just saying you need to tell her in she sends it to her mom, but maybe that was the husband's plan all along. Maybe he was like, if I just strategically place this in the background, then at long last, the mother-in-law will see my cock. No, I'm not a failure. She's always belittling me, but she'll know. She'll see.

She'll see what I've got going on. Let's move on. Am I being unreasonable? Lots of men in my new job. Am I being unreasonable? I start a new job Monday. I've been really looking forward to it. Good money.

etc and I feel lucky to have found something given current circumstances. Today I had a team's meeting to get introduced to everyone. Seven new starters and five of them are male. Only me and another woman. All the managers are male. I just feel like it's going to be such a male-dominated office. I'm now worried in case this other woman doesn't turn up and it's just me and all the men.

I worry we'll have nothing in common. I worry on team nights out I won't be able to go. Am I being unreasonable? I want some men everywhere, unfortunately. certainly. I mean, I... 49% of the planet. Yeah, 49% of the background full pictures is a man.

I feel for this person, because I would prefer not to be surrounded by men. You all would. No one likes men. We all just accept that there are men. Some people like the company of men. Yeah. No, some men are okay as well. Some men are okay. There are some good men. Not all men. No. As I'm eager to point out on Twitter

a lot. That's the only good use of not all men is, no, some men are okay. Not all men. It really depends on what type of men they are, doesn't it? Because if they're all bell-ends, then yeah, that's a shame. But that could be true of women. Yeah, then the title would be lots of bell-ends in my new job, are I being unreasonable? I'm going to be working in a bath with the... I've introduced on a team's meeting, and they're all bellens. There's one woman, but the rest of bellens, I can go on a night out with these people. they're bell-ends

I mean I have worked in all-women teams where I've had exactly that problem that the women themselves were bell-ends incredible yeah sometimes women can be terrible too why does this person think there's a risk that the other woman won't turn up what sort of bizarre internalised misogyny is this

they're like oh I know it's difficult to get a job under the current circumstances but maybe the other woman they've hired simply won't arrive at work. What? Why would that happen? Why would they not arrive at work? Maybe all five men will simply not arrive at work

and it'll just be you and this woman. But probably that won't happen either. Probably everyone who was hired will arrive at work. I've worked in all women teams in the past and I acknowledge of the different power structures that have played there because of patriarchy and whatnot. But it was fine. I didn't feel hard done by.

Yeah. When there was a night out, were you able to go? I was able to go. That's good. Sometimes they brought their husbands. Was that to keep you company? To babysit you. You can sit at the boys' table, Simon.

Okay. I work in a very woman-dominated sector, so I've not found myself in this situation. And if I did, I probably wouldn't be thrilled. But that's because fundamentally I'm not a big fan of most men. But I don't think I'd be worried that I couldn't go on a night out. I wouldn't be worried that we'd have no. nothing in common.

No, you can still go on the night out. Yeah. Like, who cares? Is this because people think that if you spend time out socially with someone of, in mum's net parlance, the opposite sex? I think in what they mean by that is of a gender to which you are attracted, then people worry that you're going to start a wild affair. No one's going to start a wild affair.

Like, it's so hard. When's there going to be a night out? You're not going on a night out. You're not going to have a wild affair. fair, you're all just sitting on teams. It doesn't seem like a problem you need to worry about yet. And you've got time to get to know these men. Exactly.

Scratch beneath the surface. Maybe some of the men are okay. Some men are people. Some men are okay. Yeah. I want to know more about what the job is. And I want to know more about this other woman and what it was that this woman was doing on this call that leads the O.P.

She thinks they won't turn up. And also what vibes the O.P. was giving on this call that maybe will deter this other woman. Well, we're thinking of men-dominated professions. So, Wall Street, the cabinet, refuse collector. How many women are currently in the cabinet? Is this someone in the cabinet? Yeah, this is Priti Patel. No, Pretty Patel's not worried because she's a bully. Yeah. Maybe that's the person that the O.P. is hoping won't show up. I would be. I was on a team's call with the cabinet, and it was loads of men and me and Pritty Patel, and why Pretty Patel just doesn't turn up? So they're either in investment banking or

waste disposal. Do you mean the mafia? No. I mean, I've been man. I've been a bin woman. I just wondered if you met like in the Sopranos. I was going to say plenty of women in the Sopranos. Yeah, I guess. But aren't they all married to the main men? Yeah, they are. But that's only because of the nature of the story. That's because of the lens the story is told through. We need a gritty rebut. A gritty... Dr. Malfi's a respected therapist. Sure. Yeah. Maybe the O.P. is a respected therapist to

a crime family and they're worried the other woman won't turn up Dr Melvin wasn't the therapist to the crime family she wasn't on retainer to the crime family she was just Tony's

therapist I'm just trying to work out why the AP would be involved with so many different men I didn't even say she was in the mafia I said waste disposal just a bin mat she's a bin lady

okay she's a bin lady and the other bin lady isn't going to turn up to work yeah so she'll be on her own with the other bin men in the low. Presumably you all have in common the fact that you were the best people for the job. God, can you imagine going on a night out where everyone's like, well done, we were the best people for the job.

We have a lot in common in that we are exceptional candidates. I guess I've never thought of having that much in common with my colleagues by virtue of working in the same place. I think that's the sort of chat that you get when you get a treat on the apprentice for being the winning team. That's the sort of work night out that is. Everyone has to go go casting and then congratulate themselves for selling. loads of razors dirty

that slightly run down shopping centre and then someone saying we're working in a male-dominated workplace and I've never had an issue so don't worry one thing I would say is that guys chat or jokes is different from women's

but you'll get used to football and sport chat every day football is a sport for one so you obviously haven't got used to it if you haven't managed to put those two things together and secondly men do love football and sports that was my original pitch

for this podcast you are being a sports boy and we talk about sports but you wanted to talk about Monsnet you are being a sports boy again by virtue of the sector that I work in maybe I don't come across the sports boys very often I'm sure they're out there but all the men that I've ever worked with

have been able to talk about not sports or football in fact often I think if I try to speak to any of the men I've worked with about football, they would have just looked at me blankly and wondered if I was doing some sort of homophobia. I mean, this is garbage, isn't it? It's absolutely garbage. Garbage. One more thread? Yeah. Am I being unreasonable? Remove, am I being unreasonable? Shocked face. Yes, shoot me down. Ready to be flamed. Hard hat on. But read first. What do you think? I'm not sure this would actually happen, but what if am I being unreasonable was removed? People would have to post on

appropriate topics but each thread title should have advice or support or discussion or opinions or even am I being unreasonable? That way people including me can still get their am I being unreasonable slash drama slash viper fix on different topics but only on threads that have discussion opinions and am I being unreasonable. It just seems everyone's posting different topics on how I being unreasonable so the point of having different topics or boards is lost and those of us who've hidden some topics still see them all over active threads because of this. So what if mum's net was Reddit? Um, no, because I think Reddit's got a better organisational system than this person proposes.

Because like Reddit still has Am I the Asshole? It does have Am I the Asshole. So if you went on like Reddit slash biscuits and then someone was like, am I the asshole? I'm the asshole for eating someone else's biscuits. Yeah, you'd be like, that's weird. Why isn't that on Am I the Asshole? You'd think, yeah, you'd think R-slash biscuits is a celebration of biscuits. Yeah. A joyous chat about biscuits.

A celebration of biscuits sounds like the brief for showstopper in the Great British Bakel. Yeah, yeah. So today's threads, for example, would be themed. You'd have one in the Zoom team's meeting section of Mum's Net. One in the penis section. One in the penis section. And one in the workplaces section. Yeah.

See, these don't seem like sections to me. And a lot of things probably cross a lot of sections Yeah, I think what joins these together is This is people with a dilemma Yeah This is people wondering if they're being unreasonable in this situation So I don't think categorising in a different way Would help

No, I don't understand why they think it would It certainly wouldn't help us Like imagine if you had to troll across boards about biscuits and workplaces and teams meetings and bathtubs to find funny threads. We'd have to announce that this podcast was over and anyone who enjoys our chat could join us for our new podcast. Hello sports boys. Yeah. What topics are you trying not to see? I get that, you know, there's like there's relationships and there's coronavirus and there's like pregnancy boards and teenagers boards and all that. What are the other boards on mums now?

Oh my God, there's so many. I imagine there's parenting is quite a big board. So there's conception, pregnancy, parenting, swears by, reviews, more. But then within those, there's loads more boards. So let's go to parenting. Parenting has babies, children, teenagers, special needs and education. A lot on parenting that we don't touch, because it's earnest people asking questions about parenting, which is fair enough. Yeah, like, I absolutely would not want to listen to a podcast that was two people with no child being horrible about someone trying their best. That's unpleasant.

No. Like, Moore has got premium offers than just regular offers. Why would you click on offers? Most premium offers is right there. Because you have to pay... A premium product. You have to pay £5 a month to access premium offers. What?

Discount codes, MumsNet exclusives, competitions, news, travel, food and recipes. As yet, we haven't come across the infamous FWR. Which I assume is in swears by, Mums Net swears by, transphobia oh no it's not so that would be one instance where like yeah I wish that the transphobia would stop seeping into the am i being unreasonable ward and stay in its box i mean i wish it didn't exist that would be better that wouldn't be better um so i can see that yeah like i hate it when those threads come up and they catch me by surprise because they've got innocuous looking titles and they open it and it's like a hateful diatribe and i'm sure there's lots

of things that people really don't want to see in the same sort of way so i can see that but if you're just here looking for a little bit of drama, you know the topics that would inspire drama, just scroll the boards, see if anyone's mentioned parking or someone knocked on the door, a mother-in-law, like... Yeah, and we're not having a dedicated parking-themed board. No, and that's too specific. If you go to the parking-themed board and they haven't asked if they're being unreasonable and someone just wants discussion about parking, like a discussion about someone knocking on

the door with no one saying, you're being unreasonable, just open the door. just people being like, hmm, somebody also knocked on my door. Someone knocked on my door, a Tudor red door, installed in 1951. A real classic of the genre. No, this is, it's just a bad take. And also the very fact they've posted on how am I being unreasonable is nonsense. I don't understand why they've done this. I don't want to shoot them down or flame them as they imply at the start of the post.

I just think it's a bad idea and they should be ashamed of themselves for posting it. Maybe I do want a flame I think they should delete their account Someone said If you want am I being unreasonable to be removed Because it's full of topics you don't like You've lost nothing by clicking hide board But from your point of view

Would be different about it not existing Ironically shouldn't this be in site stuff Then they've come back and said No because I'm asking Mumset is what they think Not Mumset HQ Okay but a good place to ask Momset us what they think Is am I being unreasonable As you have done

Here we are Like, everyone's just like, what are you on about? What are you on about? Why don't you ask Mums at HQ to do something? Why don't you use site stuff? One day, am I being unreasonable, will be removed, and the whole board will be removed. All of Mumsnet will go, and Twitter will go, and Facebook will go. It'll all be lost, like, tears in the rain.

Yeah. And on that day, we'll all be free. It'll go out of our houses and hug each other. Is that because the world has ended? Because as much as it's nice to imagine a world post all of these things, other things will just crop up in their place. It's true. So, no. Someone said mums that have too many boards, so people just flock to am I being unreasonable. Do they flock? We flock here every two weeks. I don't know if that's floging. Or whatever podcasts are sold.

Don't get rid of the am I being unreasonable board, please. Our podcast depends on it. And if we don't make our podcast, five or maybe six people, once a fortnight, won't have 40 minutes of entertainment. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And then what will we do? Yeah, imagine that world. It doesn't better thinking about. It doesn't. And we'll just have to keep on running. We won't be able to run for a fortnight and then break it up by doing a little podcast.

Terrible. One more speed round? One more speed round. Amma being unreasonable to think Gary Barlow can't sing. No. I can't. No. And he wanted that weird special charity track where all the best girls were...

Duh. Amma being unreasonable to feel sad at this? No, it's normal to feel sadness. Amma being unreasonable to have... demolished. What? A vionetta? I assume so. We simply do not know. We do not know. And am I being unreasonable to wonder what crafty activities people do and sell. Very crafty people. Thieves. My crafty activity is slyly getting penises in pictures that I send to people and then making out it was an accident. Very crafty. We're usually here every other Thursday. We're

other podcasts are sold, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google. If you're listening this far, you've found it somehow. Verbal. We're on verbal now. Yeah, we're on verbal. Which is not spelt like verbal. It's spelled verbal. Verbal. Verbal. All of my writing is on linkjerk.e. slash SimonXIX.

I did want to plug something that's not me, but someone I used to work with, Ben Taylorson is making incredible crisp sandwiches and has been making crisp sandwiches every day through February. So go look at his crisp sandwiches. on his Twitter, Ben Taylorson. Great. I don't have anything to plug. My linketry hasn't been updated for a while. I'll do that at some point.

linktura.e. slash helen-sulis Bowie. Thank you for listening. Bye. Thank you. Bye.