You Be Trippin' - Barcelona w/ Danny Brown | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

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The dick is split. You don't got to get no details or how it happened. You see what's going on here. Dude, one time I thought I had herpes real bad. And it was a dick tear from anal. I pulled out too fast and it ripped, you know, like the muffin top and it was all ripped in there. My buddy calm me down. Pete Lee was dying.

It was dying. You was dying. I was like, no. finally had caught up. Yeah, and the doctor's like, it's not herpes. And I'm like, he wasn't like, I can look at you. It's not that. I mean, at least I was living.

Horrible, man. It didn't even hurt that bad. It was just like. No, I dick, anything with any genital area hurts. I don't care what you're talking about. It's these emotional pain. I mean, you just got to be a strong, strong individual, man. I'm not, I'm the most skillfully shaver you ever been in your life, man.

Slight hand. Like, I'm cooking crack. I shave my pews like I'm cooking crack. You shave them? Oh yes, they gave me the manscape. I burned one down, each one with a cigarette, hair by hair.

We got the manscape, man. You got to use the products, man. The line more, 2.0. You shave the balls? Yeah, the lime more 2.0. Do you pull the balls like tight? Because that skin is like all wrinkly. That's when it cuts.

Are you not understanding me? No, no, I'm trying to think, but I don't think I do. I don't think I do. It's like, if it's like this, you're going to pull it tight so that you get a nice shave. That's why I'm light with the hand. Yeah. It's like a neck. You go like this and then you shave it.

I'm a couple days or though. What does that mean? I'm going to go. I'm going to shave about three days. Then I'm done. I ain't going to get them all in one wop. You know what I'm saying? I got to have a fade right.

Yeah, I put a fade on the time. Yeah, I got to be the landing strip. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm going to do the right thing. and this is our race travel show yeah we're going to talk about travel today it's you be trippet yeah welcome to you be trippett everybody it's a travel podcast every week some guest takes me to some place they've been and we talk about what we do it it's wildly inaccurate almost everywhere if you guys are looking for facts this ain't the podcast for that it's just experiential today uh the man danny brown you you

Second time on. Hell yeah. First time we were on your set, I think. I know, right? I just repurposed your set. Yeah, we're back. And then I got my own. Where do you want to go?

What do you want to talk about today? I have no idea. Okay. My whole brain is, I told you to deal with this movie shit, my whole brain is all over the place, man. You told me last time about some festival where they were just hooking it up. It might have been primavera. Yeah, prima vera, definitely.

That's my favorite festival ever. Why? Because, I mean, it's just a great time. And it's huge. You can tell, like, I don't know, the budgets of festivals. Yeah. And how it's ran, the catering. You know, everything.

You got to add everything. And it's just like the highest. It's like the baller is shit. I will say, as far as catering, like, I think, hopscotch festival. Where's that? That's Canada. I went to Oceaga once. Oh, that's what it is.

Oceaga. I had it wrong. It's Oceaga. In Montreal. Bro, I was there and somehow I got backstage stuff. We weren't performing at it. I think somebody was running another festival so they got it. And I could hit all the other.

Like five-star chefs and shit. All the musicians are like, this is the one of the best caterer I've ever had. Yeah, they'd be having like five-star chefs and shit. And what's the negative version of that? Like what's the shit version of that? Or what? Aatering?

Yeah, like the opposite of Oceaga. Like when you get to a festival, are there ever like- A-C-L? I ain't gonna lie, A-C-L. They just had grilled chicken and white rice for a nigga. And one of the white people get. They had a little more than that. It's just my DJ who I'm with.

He'd real weird about food, so he won't eat certain shit. He only eat like chicken and like bird. He eat like a fucking 12 year old and they didn't have nothing that he could eat there and he just made a rice sandwich and I was like damn you know the catering fucked up when a motherfucker eating a rice sandwich like rice and white bread and he just made a sandwich he just ate that I was like damn if you're in a festival on a major DJ a DJ is white too so of course he ate a white rice sandwich star star I always say his name around it's not starboard that's a boat it's not

star lord what you're DJ Skywalker Sky Walker yeah damn it's Skyler his name is Skyler Oh, really? Yeah. I like when people rename themselves rap names, and it's like Lil B. I'm like, what's your name, Brandon? Is that little B? Like, what's like, where's it come from? I could never think of a rap name.

It took me forever. My rap name is Daniel Brown. Yeah, and I mean, I got that from a pimp. What? Yeah, it's a pimp named Danny Brown. And you killed him and took the name? No, it was a documentary. I think it was maybe he's American Pimp or Pimp Up Hose down.

One of those pimping documentaries. Your name's not Danny Brown? No, my name is Daniel Sewell. Like Thomas? Thomas. Yeah. Do you know what that is? And it's Sewell, though. His name's Swell. I don't know.

I think it's Swell. I don't think it's Sewell. Only other Sewells I know is like, I think it's a football player, last name, Sewell. Sewell, anyway. But yeah, I don't know shit about that last name. My grandma married a nigger and didn't get divorced. So we got a last name that doesn't mean shit to me. I'm supposed to be Smith. Dude, one time they were talking, it was two high school players.

Larry Johnson and Kevin Johnson. Grandmother mom. Yeah. And KJ. Yeah. And somebody asked him, like, hey, what do you think about Kevin Johnson? And Larry Johnson's like, yeah, I mean, we're both from the same plantation probably. Yeah.

So he's like, he's my homie. Exactly. Yeah. So prima vera. Let's talk about Spain and all that stuff. Or at least there's layer. So what was that? What's that type of, is it a camping festival? Or is it like till? I mean, it's huge. Yeah. So I would believe they got to have some type camping ground. Bigger than Bonaro, same size. Yeah. It's bigger. Because, I mean, as far as, like, from stage to stage. Yeah. Like, it was, it's like, it's hell.

To get there. Yeah. I mean, you might not see what you want to see, y'all, because it's not, you know what I'm saying? Wow. I like those because then you're just stuck where you are. Yeah. Damn, that's it, premaverous sound. Uh-huh.

Is it up by the water? It is, right? I mean, they do a few of them, but the Barcelona one's the best one. Wait, wait. Wait, wait. They do a primavera sound in Porto. Yeah. I've been to that one, too.

That one wasn't that good. but the one in Barcelona is the best one. Do you go out into the, into Gen Pop? No, I used to. Yeah. Earlier, but no, nah, no, no, I wouldn't do it. I mean, now, I mean, I'm sober as fuck. Why would I do that?

Oh. You know, I did, I mean, I did during Coachella this year, but I had no choice. I mean, I was, I mean, because I was there on other people's sets. Oh, right, right, right. So I had the guests, I mean, I still had the artist pass. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, I don't know why. Oh, to get to stage to stage some time, too.

It's easier to just cut through than trying to go around the backs and shit. So I think that's why we was doing it. But I did, I watched Charlie's set from the crowd. X-TX? Yeah. Right before I left, because I was hungry. But this back then, when you're doing Pimavera sound,

you were using then. Yeah, hell yeah. As soon as I got there, that's what, I mean, maybe that's why I'm a little, um. What? I mean, I'm just being, giving them too much props, because as soon as you get there, I remember checking into the hotel,

and I don't know if that's a thing I should be saying, but I remember the people at the hotel was like, do you want to see the dealer? Like the dealer? What do you mean? What's the dealer? And they was like,

and I was like, yeah, I'll check the dealer out. Like, I don't know what this is, but for me, yeah, and soon as we went upstairs, I set my bags down on the bed to somebody knocked at the door. And I'm like, what the fuck?

I opened the door. It's the dealer, the dealer at the door. He's like, what do you need? I'm like, shit, what you got? I'm like, I'm on Somali. he just started pulling shit out his balls like bags and shit like Molly weed

Coke I'm like all right boom so everything right there soon as we soon as we fucking got there so I get everything I get I'm like shit it's lit now I'm going down to the bar

I go down to the bar as soon as I get down to the bar of some random girl like some Paris girl she's like do you want to be my boyfriend and I was like yeah I want to be a boyfriend and then we went together

and then we was boyfriend and girlfriend for that whole weekend for five days it was only a weekend Dude, festival flings are the best flings. But it was like, that happened for me. Literally my first hour I was there. And then I was like, all right, she's like,

just go to the new beach. We went to the new beach and fucking eight primes. Do you want to go? Is this chick even know you? Or is she like, these where the musicians are? I was like, this one's cool. This will do. I don't think, no.

Actually, she did know who I was because I've seen her before. I actually seen her at Coachella. And then she's seen me at Prima Vera. I was like, Denny, you want to be my boyfriend? And I was like, sure. That was wild times back then. Yeah.

I wouldn't do that now. I know shirt wear like that. Yeah, yeah. Guys, don't do drugs. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That'll ruin your life. Anyway, that's so customer service friendly is to say. So that's why in my head, that might be the best festival ever.

It's the best to know what you want. Oh, that's what I'm saying. In my head, that might be the reason that's the best festival. Oh, you're like, actually, another thing, but the sound was terrible. So I can't even think of, you know what I'm saying? And I was rolling the entire time. I didn't sleep the entire time I was there. It was horrible.

What was your drug? It was Molly. Molly. You know, MDMA, baby. That's so fucking good. And they had the crystals. I was just dropping rocks. Like, crunching it.

Wilding out, man. When I think about those times, it was like, man, I'm just, I'm glad to be alive. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of risk. A lot of risk for taking. I mean, did you have to, that was pre-Fent, right? You didn't have to worry about it.

Yeah, what a good time. I know. I was just watching something a day that was saying like 90% of the cocaine got fit. And I was like, damn, you know, because all that Fent shit was going down right before I quit and shit. So I'm pretty sure I probably bumped into a Fent pack here and there. Like I was saying, like all my other motherfuckers that I used to get fucked up with,

I'm like, I'm pretty sure all the motherfuckers don't, they do in Fent. I mean, not purposely. Just some. But yeah, they probably addicted to the Fent, don't even know it. Dude, I tested a bag he once. and it was like of like a lot and it was like oh it's positive but i'm like i've already done it from this bag damn i was like my third time going into it molly yeah i think it was molly and then it was like but we've used it we didn't die no they did it right we were like well this one's safe

because we didn't die so they did it right exactly exactly it's like that michael jackson stuff like just not too much yeah now she was good man why was that molly so good just that little extra But it's like that keef sprinkle of fent. Seasoning, that fittinol seasoning. That's fucked up. Don't do drugs. Don't do drugs. Obviously, I don't do drugs, whatever.

Yeah, that's like this whole shit. Like, you know, I started back smoking weed. But as soon as this, if this THC ban is happening here like that, I'm done. What's the THC ban? Yeah, they're talking about banning on THC products. Like THC A? Yeah. So the loophole's going to go away?

Yeah, that's all. But it's going to be, it's going to take some time for what to happen. Let's talk about Prima Verisone. Mm-hmm. So then you were using, do you ever go into like the crowd there? Yeah, I was wilding out then, yeah. What'd you do? You were just like going and...

Hanging out with my girlfriend. Go to see shows. Yeah, whatever she wanted to do. I was doing whatever she wanted to do. What was it to do besides music? We was just getting drunk, like going, you know, sitting at, going around. This bar hopping type of shit. Bar hopping until it was a show that you wanted to see.

Bar hopping. What were you bar hopping? Just like going from bar to bar. I mean, yeah, like... In the festival? Or like out of the city? Yeah, outside in the city. Wait, how does the festival work?

You can just go in and out. It's, like, really easy. Yeah, when you got artists pass or shit. But it's, like, close? No, we were like leaving, going out to certain places and shit. Hey, guys, I'm going to break into today's episode to let you know a little bit about Danny Brown. This is embarrassing to do in public, so I'm going to pretend like I'm on my phone. That'll help me be able to be free.

Yeah, I'm just talking to a friend. See that? Yeah, no sound difference at all if I go like this. And yet, here I am for trying to talk to my phone. I'm in front of Olivia's greatest general, his first full president after Bolivar stepped down. And maybe one of the greatest generals in Latin American history to let you know about one of the greatest rappers of all time. It's Danny Brown. He is, I've heard him described as a Richard Pryor of hip-hop.

And man, I didn't fully understand it until I heard this album, Star Dust. It is, okay, I'm just going to tell you right now. we were going to do this podcast probably three months earlier um and before it started then he was like hey can i play your menu album and i was like yeah for sure and then he played it for me and i'm telling you man i i couldn't do the i couldn't do the podcast afterwards it's so fucking good it's beyond it's like i don't even know how to describe it's a concept album and it starts and it finishes with with with one question. What am I doing this for? And in between the question and the answer, he takes you through just a tour of every different genre of hip-hop there is. I mean, this song is

like, oh, this is a Denver Grime. Oh, this is like, oh, Chicago slip-op. He's legitimately, like, on another level. And the question starts, he posted, what am I doing this for? It's a concept album, so it's loosely based on himself. And in the end, he gives you the answer. I'm doing it for you. I'm doing it for the fans. I mean, it was so fucking good.

I called Daniel Simonson afterwards. I was like, Danny, I can't do a podcast now. This thing is, it's, like, it's moved me. Danny Brown is probably one of my most unlikely friends. I mean, the odds of us becoming and starting a friendship is, it was slim to none. You know, I grew up upper middle class religious, Jewish. And Danny Brown is retarded. But this album, Stardust, is not retarded.

And you know it pains me not to call something retarded. I mean, there's almost nothing in my life that I don't want to call retarded. It hurts, actually. Danny, I'd love to call this album retarded. I just can't do it. Fuck. Yeah, it's really frustrated. You know, I mean, if you know me at all, you know how much I love calling the

and Danny, you are retarded. But this album is, is this another thing. God damn. Anyway, you guys, it's available right now. For the cheapskates, like myself, listen to it on Spotify. I mean, listen to it all the way through. Don't stop. You gotta give yourself an hour.

I mean, the DJs, he has on this thing, are fucking wild, undiscovered hyper-pop. I know that's not what you're supposed to call them, but for whatever reason, they're much more aggressive than some of the other pop DJs. Is that the right word, Danny? DJs? Oh, the guy makes the beats.

Danny also is touring right now. You can see all his tour dates. I wrote it down. I'm going to one. All tour dates are available at ex-Danny Brown X on Instagram. No, he's at ex-Dany Brown, X.com. Danny Brown.org. What?

Was Danny Brown taken? See, retarded. That's what I'm talking about. Legitimately retarded. Let's just go Danny Brown. Why wouldn't you? He's going to be in Minneapolis at the Uptown. I played there.

standing room only for him the whole back row for me empty Denver Sacramento Salt Lake San Francisco Los Angeles Santa Ana's all this year San Diego Tempey Austin Houston Dallas Atlanta Baltimore Philadelphia at the TLA that's where Dynes did his fucking best album theater of living arts Brooklyn at the Warsaw that's gonna go fucking off and then next year he's in London at Victoria Park in August I'm fucking Danny, give me free tickets. You know I don't pay for shows. Also, guys, the first time I went to see him, it was somewhere on the west side of New York. I couldn't believe it. I felt like I was in ecstasy, and I was not. God damn, he's so fucking good. Guys, get started us right

now. Big shout out to Warp Records for putting this out and for fucking believing in the process this must have taken to make this high level of fucking concept album. I just can't understand it. It's really, it was like, not much moves me, but it was like, it was like moving. God damn, it was like legitimately, I called Daniel. He was like, he was like, so you ready to do the podcast? Danny said, and I was like, dude, I can't do that now. I can't talk about some fucking festival in, wherever, Barcelona. I got to process this.

I mean, legitimately. Anyway, whatever. Listen, hip-hop's not my world, but great things are my world, and this is a great thing. I'm going to show you a picture of Bolivar. For myself, you can find me with this podcast. Is that all of Danny's stuff? Oh, also Corenta. The last album was fucking great.

The one about gentrification. Gentrific vacation? That's my favorite. And just see them all every week on the Danny Brown show, right here on the YMH. network. I've been on there two different times. Go start with one of those episodes if you have to watch it. Instagram, you'll be tripping pod. My own Instagram at Ari Sheffir. YouTube, you'll be chipping pod. Subscribe wherever you're watching or listening. You guys. I got merch right at the bottom of the screen. You've been chipping shirt. You'd be chipping stickers that I've been putting up all

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She'd love it. Guaranteed. But also, you don't have to be that to love it. It was just to love great things. All right, let's get back to the episode. More festivals. It's made the best festivals. Let me show you Baltimore real quick.

I mean, uh, sukre. Greas General. In the tree of fucking. Maybe Latin America. He's upset of Machincha, Ayacucho, fucking wild. All right. Let's go back to the episode. Because it'd be like, um, it'd be like different stages all around the city type shit.

It's like they got one spot where like maybe three or four stages, but then it got a couple other stages and other places. And your past works at. everywhere? Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, okay. I thought it was just like Bonnarro or like Glastonbury. No, I was all this. It's huge.

They got, the main part is huge, but then they also do have a few stages that's elsewhere. Maybe just one stage that's elsewhere, maybe not few, but I do know we left and went like a nice Uber ride to a whole other stage like downtown somewhere, a whole other area. Cause I remember because his motherfucker

was pissing in his mouth. I can't remember the fucking band. Wait, what? He was on stage. I can't remember the band that did this, but he was on stage and he pulled his dick out and he started pissing in the air and catching it in his mouth.

And I was rolling on Molly at the time. And I was like, man, am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? Like, I was fucked up. I remember that's when it started peeking on me, too. I was like, what am I seeing? Like, you know what I'm saying? That thing were like, I know I'm saying this, but I know also I'm on drugs.

So I can't be sure what's happening. So I was like, oh, and I was getting that waved. Oh, shit. Who pissed in their mouth? What year was there? I can't remember what band was it was. Do you remember? No, whatever year I was that I played it.

You only went once? Yeah. I mean, I played. that one and I played Porto, but I only bet the Barcelona won't. Find that video. It had to be, because that was the year I did the vice interview with ASAT Rocky, so that had to been maybe 2012, no, maybe 2013, 14. Wait, he's pissing, first of all. Yeah, he's pissing. I mean, Gigi Allen was already dead, wasn't him, and then just catching it. It was a band. I can't remember. It was pretty popular because it was a bunch of people at the stage. How hype did the crowd get? They loved it.

I bet. I mean, I bet. First, like, you were doing it. And then everybody, he got it. I can imagine. I was like, yes. That shit is crazy. Like a little arc and then back down? Yeah, I didn't enjoy it. How close to you? I'm like, oh, no.

They've got to get out of here. This is borderline too gay. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't know what's to come. Like, how do you top this? I was at a burlesque kind of showroom place. Where at? New York.

And somebody pooped into a toilet, stood on the toilet and pooped into it. Oh. Was that the box? Yeah. Yeah. You know I know. I didn't go. I haven't been to, no, I haven't been to the New York when I went to the London one.

That's a London box? Yeah. Oh. It was a great time. I mean, I wasn't, I didn't see nothing too crazy, I think. Yeah. But the reason I said is once they reached into the toilet with their hand, I'm like, we're pulling the curtains. Like, I don't want to be, I don't know where this is going to go.

Yeah. That's that feeling. You went by yourself? To the box? Yeah. No, but Chappelle used to have comedians balls there.

That's how I got to know it. He would just like have comic. He's just like open bar and have people who knew all the levels of comics. Mm-hmm. So somebody's like, I don't know yet.

Someone else like, they're good. And it's like, yeah, he just like open, just enjoy the box. But it would still be, they would still be putting on normal box shows and shit?

Uh-huh. Yeah. It was so cool. It was so cool. I saw him once too. And it was like, I, you know, I barely run into him.

But I was like, oh, hey, you got a, I got a hand job at your party. He goes, yes, man, that's why I do it. That's right. So, okay, so tell me more about Barcelona. You like it there? What do the bars like?

I can't say I really remember too much, being that I was rolling on Molly for the most part. God, festivals rule. Barcelona, I just really liked it the, I mean, it's like a freedom place. But I did also, we did go check out, like, a lot of skate parks and shit, and that was cool. You skate? No.

But I was saying like, you know, I was with my homies from Trash Talk and they, you know, they're super in the skate culture. They got the brand Babylon and all that shit. So they was, and they was all skating and shit. I was just hanging out with them. You just go with your girlfriend? Yeah, the girlfriend. I think she might have split off for me.

This one we might have broke up, I mean, not broke up, but we had parted ways for a little bit of time. Because I had other obligations. I had like interview and press and shit to do. Oh, I thought you meant other checks. And I didn't, that was the thing. I was up all night. I didn't shower or nothing. And the next thing, you know, like, you got an interview.

I was just showing up. the place is just dirty than a motherfucker with pajamas on them. It was a wild time. It must be so great to be a musician where you're like, this isn't a professional. This is professional. But it was.

I didn't sleep enough. So then I'm just taking more Molly to wake up. How were your shows? Show. The show, it was horrible because being that I was just rolling off Molly so much, I decided to wear a leather jacket with no shirt up under.

And then by the time, nighttime, by the time I was going on stages like 40 degrees outside. The body wasn't working, so I was uncomfortable drinking Hennessy, trying to warm up. It's like, oh, it's over. Do you ever get too fucked up to do a show? I mean, I was not too fucked up to do the show, but up there not doing the show the right way, ruining the show. Yeah.

I've done that, got up there, and just forgot every lyric I wrote. Really? Yeah. I used to do that a lot. That was really bad. How does that feel? That's horrible. I mean, I mean, if it's a comics, we can just be like,

there's no script, does it don't have any sets anything? I mean, so that's what happened. I would just like, go to the next song and then maybe try it. Maybe they won't notice. I did not fuck up that song and then I'll get to the point I just get up rambling on stage talking shit. Damn. Just drunk.

Are there festivals that are better and worse, like stage-wise? We're like set up right for comedy. I mean, obviously, because, you know, some festivals, they have these big sponsors. Uh-huh. That's paying for everything. Then you get some festivals that don't really, you know, like I play the festival.

I want to say, um, Last year, somewhere around Ireland somewhere. And it was, you could tell, it was really, I mean, it was like the biggest thing for the city, but it was a small town type place. And it's like we just don't. Yeah, it was like, you know, like on a farm or some shit.

Yeah. I've been to some crazy shit. I've been to some festivals before where you're getting taken. You're like, hold up. Are we really about to play a show or am I being kidnapped right now? Where are we going?

I don't see, I haven't seen a tree of nothing. We just look like we've been kidnapped. Some of them really are in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, you're like, what the fuck? Like the gathering of the jugglers used to be the most random middle of nowhere. That one too. Sturgis, yeah, I never been to Sturgis. Oh, they almost booked me one year and then it didn't happen.

And I think, no, they booked me and then I think my manager's something, they was like, I don't think it's a good idea. I like the last minute. It's just the biker festival? Yeah. I remember I did get booked for Sturgis. Damn, I'd be cool to see. I know, right? You know there's something like gross fucking, my old lady sex.

sex happening everywhere, biker sex. But this, I mean, I'm happy this year, this is like the first time I really get a break. Of not torn? Yeah, I mean, and then I'm done with an album. So it's like, what the fuck? I really have like, I don't have to worry about working. I could just really just enjoy my summer.

But guess what? I'm not about to do that. I'm about to go back to work. I'm going to start working on the next album. Like, fuck it. Immediately. Yeah. This new album, by the way, I gotta say, what's the title?

Star Dast. Star Dast. It's so cool. and interesting. It's like sprawling. I mean, the range of like, of like, lyrically, I mean, musically is a different thing too, but like lyrically from, from like, I don't know, finding what your place in the world is and coming to terms with like your, you're, who your fans are and why you're making art in the first place to like roadhead. It's such a fucking, it's such a lofty fucking task you brought on.

Thank you, thank you. I'm telling you, man, we were going to do this podcast before, but then you played the album and I was like, I got to think this over. Yeah, but the version, you heard, I think we cut a few songs, so it's shorter now. Remember I had it as longer. He was like, yeah, this is pretty long.

It's long for sure. Yeah, but now, so we cut a few songs. And it's a, what do you call it? A, um, like a story album. Yeah, it's like a concept album. Loosely based, loosely based scripted concept album. I just thought it was so fucking interesting. I mean, I had to call my friend Daniel

that you met Simonson and just, like, talk about it. You're the richer prior of music. I think you and Eminem. You're not the first person to say that. You remember? The first time I ever heard that was Ali Shahi Muhammad from a Tariff called Quest. And I remember this when I was first, like,

coming out, I was getting popping and shit. And he was kind of like being like a mentor for me type of shit and he bought me my first fucking MacBook. Like I didn't have a computer. And I was like, man, if I could just get a computer. It's like, you don't got a computer. Like, no. You know what I was like, no.

and I know I look up one day it's a fucking MacBook. I delivered to my career. I was like, that can't be. I remember one time he, but he was telling me that, but he was telling me it. He's like, you'd like the Richard Pryor of rapping shit, but he's like, you gotta learn how to turn down

the shock value in some sense. Like, it's cool to be able to say whatever the fuck you want, but you gotta realize his repercussions that come with that shit. And he was right. Explain that. And he was right. All right, even just something smallest,

I'm gonna say this is small, but how I used to make. make so many overly sexual songs. Then my daughter's in high school and they find out I'm her dad. Now they think she's a fucking freak just because. Oh, right. Or just promiscuous.

And you know what I'm saying? Okay. So that's how that type of shit comes back. Like you just saying, now I learned my left. Yeah, I don't know how, what's his name? So it's one of those things where it's, you know, he was just pretty, and now I understand that. Just like, you know, what message are you trying to put out there?

Well, it changes too probably as you get older. Like I wanted to put that message out. Now I want to put this message up. I mean, at that time when you were just wanting to get into the game, you know, shock value at that time wasn't a thing. I think when I first... Shock values got a bad term. It's like, it's got a bad connotation to it. Yeah, especially with comedy.

Yeah, but it's not like, but you weren't going to shock people. You're going to entertain them. Yeah, but you're just saying shit that you know will raise eyebrow, you know? Right. And that's what I was, that was like kind of like my thing. And I grew up on rap like that. you know right so it was like yeah but i totally get i totally understand it now you know i heard sturgles like where people like how can we don't sing about mushrooms and dmt anymore

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Back to the episode. So that took some time to just even be like, yo. Yeah. So it's like I relearned again. But now I feel like I'm better than fucking ever. Like I literally, you know, my girl fucking, you know, we got this new house and shit. She's like, yo, let's go get some furniture. I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm going to think ain't a big deal.

We go get a couch. I get up to the register. It's fucking 13,000 for the couch. I'm like, oh shit. But I couldn't. back out then so we get the couch. But then I was like, you know. This episode is brought to you by IKEA.

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And I was like, oh shit. So I did the verse, then it's at the money. I was like, see, if I would have been the bitch and didn't wanna buy the couch, then that verse wouldn't have came. So I looked at it like that. Wait, let me tie the first. this end of the album and also Barcelona and Spain.

The gay culture up there or trans stuff, this might have been before trans was so prevalent when you were doing Prima Vera. How was it, how was it there? It always, I feel like a lot more open-minded than most places. Yeah. Yeah.

But I think, was that the same year, Arka play? I don't know. Who? Arka, who's like one of the hugest, like, artists right now. It's definitely trying to work with Arca this album, but it didn't work out. Yeah.

What you told me was all that these trans producers, but it was just, it wasn't even that. It was just, it just worked in my world of just alternative experimental shit and I was just hearing the craziest beats and shit. Like, it started out with me really, like when me and Peggy was making Scarein'Hawls and then he put me up on the Daria Corps,

which I didn't know was Jane Remover at the time. And then I was like, yo, we didn't do some shit like this. But I was into Hyperpop already at that time with like 100 geeks and shit like that, but I wasn't deep into the, deep into the real shit of it. You know, I knew about like Dorian and, you know, stuff like that. But once I got into Jane and all of them, it was like,

it was, I mean, that's why, you know, I credit them so much for this album, Jane and underscores because like when I first heard their albums, that's like I fell back in love with music again. What were they doing? Just like, fast, like, try to explain that to me. I mean, well, with the underscores album, just having something so, um,

just a dialed in concept album. Oh, right. That was just something that was so conceptual and just big, you know? Yeah. So, you know, me. Dude, it goes so far. It comes from, like, what am I doing here in life and in this, in music and whatever your thing is? You know, this one obviously was music, but then it's like, it's really just speaking to anybody who does anything.

Yeah. You know, building boats. It's open for interpretation. Yeah, I try to leave it like that. But yeah. To, like, full, like, I've lost it all. I've, you know, I've negated everything. With, through songs of different, like, places of this thing.

I mean, man, I was just like, when I say you the Richard Pryor, and Daniel says it too, it's like, there's a story of him being up in the bell room at the comedy store at daytime, just like turn the mic on and just like speaking into it so he could like make himself hear noises and like cover just like weirdness. That's crazy. Not about like the drug use or anything like that, but just like fucking with the form. And people don't be seeing shit like, you know what I'm saying? Like people don't see that side of the shit, you know? So that might be some correlation there And some sense of even how I go about Taking my approach to making music

Yeah, yeah All right, let's get back to Barcelona Mm-hmm What's the skate scene like there? What were the parts like? I mean, like I say, I didn't, I don't really know, but Because like I say, I'm not, I can't say I'm not super duper into skate culture like that

But I do know Yeah That it was a different level of what I've seen Of just going to normal skate part Like these was pros Like this was like, you know, You know what I'm saying? It's like, like, professionals.

I probably, it was probably some bunch of famous motherfuckers. I just didn't know what they was. That's so cool. But it was dope, man. Just that whole scene out there, man. And then it's just a party. It's just a partying lifestyle out there, man. Were the other musicians hanging out and partying?

Um, like the other, because that festival. I was hanging out with trash talk, so, but I was friends with them. But I'm trying to think that I was hanging out with like Rocky and them. But no, I don't, I don't think I had, I had many friends that was out there at the time. So the versions of festivals, like the range of like star to not star. Like I've been on some with like the black keys, but like we're not, we both get the same pass. Yeah. But like we're not hanging out, you know.

So the non-star, the 3 p.m. band, they can do whatever they want. They can just walk. No one knows them. You know, they just walk through, do whatever. But then sometimes like with those artist areas, they do put a time limit on you. So let's just say you get a trailer. And then another band got at the you play your set, you got to get out the trailer. in another band, take up the trailer.

And you can chill around if you won't, but you ain't got no trailer no more. And that's when it's like, all right, play the crowd or go home. Yeah, Big J, we were in Ottawa Blues Fest. Ottawa? Yeah, it was like a three-week festival. It was blues or that was just...

I think it started that way. Oh, but they call it blues band a day or something jazzy, whatever. And then it's like Jack White or something. Yeah, exactly. And it's all just like that. Yeah. Yeah, it was like, call me maybe.

Blues influence. Yeah, you know. But anyway, he was like, we're like, let's go up to like, we can get in between the stage and the crowd. And I'm like, no, he goes, we've got these artists passed. Like, they're gonna know that it's, we're not like, whatever. And Jay was like, what do you mean they're gonna?

We are artists. Yeah, we're not tactically, he goes, no, what are you talking about? We're all in the festival. It didn't make sense to me. No, it's good. But like some of those like, I know where Coachella, you know, they got main stage and all, I think it's just main stage passes.

So you can't. get in there. Yeah, that makes sense. So you can go to all the other stages, but you can't go to main stage. Because I got to be annoying as hell. You're Win Butler and then some fucking young band. It was like, hey, can I show you my thing? He's like, come on, man.

But also it was fucking Lady Gaga headlining. And you know she don't play that shit. Right, beat it. You know what I heard about Madonna? No idea of this true or not. New toilet in her dressing room. And then you've got to clear the toilet when she's gone. Yeah.

Because you don't want anybody taking her DNA. No, I believe that. Because I've heard some crazy stories about Madonna Like I was watching some, I'd be watching like engineer videos and shit that I'm talking about doing like sessions with artists and shit and there's one engineer that was saying,

you know, she got her writer of shit that she used in the studio and that's all, she don't use nothing else, that's it. And they got everything for her. She went in there and she recorded. She like, get them sound right. This ain't it.

And they just got totally mad and people. Like, we got everything you needed. But, you know, some artists, man, I think you've been doing this shit for so long. I think you got the right to be an asshole because you go through so much shit

of people taking advantage you in this music industry man you got to be you got to have your defense mechanisms yeah heard a story about louis playing some arena and then he was like hey turn the lights down for the like like it looks down check and stuff it goes turn the lights down and i want the sound up to this and the lady's like uh well no usually he said it to hear it goes i know i know but i want it down she goes well usually we set the lights to hear and he goes lady you're gonna do it either i have to go over your head or not but just fucking do it um i thought she's about to say he turned the lights down and started jacking off

Goddamn. Not again. You can say whatever you want. He was never accused of turning the lights down. Oh, he had that bitful. You're going to see this. In no report, didn't say the lights went dimmer. He had a ring light on.

Just like around the dick, so he really shines on there. Let me get my ring light out. Tell me more about prima vera sound and like going out there because I didn't realize it was a city. festival like that man i'm i'm jealous because i only got it to play that one time i want the motherfuckers to bring me back well i did play the um porto but that one blows i mean i wouldn't say it blows but that's just a different vibe in city yeah i feel like um i don't know i wouldn't say racist but oh porto it just felt i felt the i felt the vibe walking around the city of being like

i don't know if i'm safe are there some festivals where you're like you're like a uh as like a black guy or rapper, you're like the token? I remember one of the Oasis guys got mad when Jay's Z. Yeah, when he's headline. Yeah, it goes, it's in Brock. Headline, Glash and Berry. Yeah. I wouldn't, I wouldn't consider it to be a token because to me, I feel like it's a privilege.

Not a privilege, but I feel honored. When you have a festival that's like predominantly rock and roll and it's like a lot of bunch of different genres on there and then I'm like the only rapper. Yeah. That makes me feel like, I don't feel like I'm a token in that scenario. It makes me feel like I'm that good.

Like, I mean, maybe like a few years ago, Glastonbury, like the same thing we were just talking about. They only had maybe like four rappers on there. And I was one of them. And it was no name, the other rapper that's from Chicago. So we were like the only two American rappers that was there. So to me, I feel like, that's like props. Like, yeah, they know who the fuck with.

That's cool. Yeah, exactly. Because they can get anybody. It's fucking Glastonbury. So for you to pick me. Yeah. And then the list was that small. So, hey.

Also, I'm older than you, but like, when I was coming up, It was, rap was such a different world than rock. And it seems like, it's so blended now. It's just like, these songs are just songs. And it's like, oh, you happen to be rapping. But it's like, especially like, with you and JPEG, it was like, this is like, honestly, this is kind of electronica. Yeah.

If anything. Yeah. But I think it's more so with me, I don't know about anybody else, but that's what I was raised on, being from Detroit and techno and, you know, even my homie who was just, you know, they came up here to help me movement shit. They just did movement, you know, Detroit, the Movement Festival in Detroit,

the electronic festival, and they were just telling me, like, man, techno is back. I'm like, techno is back. They're like, yes, techno is fucking back. Which I can believe, though. It's about time for the resurgence. Yeah, it's so, you just start jumping. You just start jumping.

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that's like my kind of music but I do love um what is that um Trezor in Berlin oh the club yeah you ever been there I've been to another one there I've been to a few there My treasure, man. That's what, I'm saying, like, me, the music of techno

and, like, the fan of, like, electronic Detroit music and all that shit. Like, that's, like, that's where it's appreciated. In, there's one where it had upstairs was house and then downstairs was techno. And that's the only time I knew I could tell the difference between the two because I would, like, listen for a while.

It's like a big warehouse type of situation. I think we might be talking about the same shit. But it was huge. It was, like, maybe a few floors, I'm going to say. Yeah. And I know, I was like, I was, and I had went, because they invited me out and I went by myself and shit

but I was just like Did you really? Yeah I was like I was probably in there for me I just really went because I wanted to meet them because I've been a fan of you know of how much they supported you know if it wasn't for Berlin

like ghetto tech probably wouldn't be what it is ghetto tech? Yeah I love these names of genre so I was just like you know I always just knew like Trezor and Berlin was like a you know that was like the Mecca for so drugs are crazy there

because I went with a guy And eventually he's like, I got to leave. I got my kids fucking soccer tournament tomorrow. And I was like, all right, well, I'm staying. And then you just find friends who were like, there. They're like, when I come to the bathroom, I'm like, yeah. Whatever you're going to do, let's do it. Oh, it's so fun.

You don't have to be with anybody. No. And it's just jumping. It was crazy. I mean, I wish I was more into my wild stage. Then you were already sobered up? No. I mean, no, not really.

But I was at that phase of my life where I was. It was new. Go to the dark room there? No. I just found out this last trip what a dark room is. It's just for like... Yeah, some gay shit.

Yeah, gay shit. It's like the Home Depot bath room. That's the dark room. Yeah. And then like the etiquette of what I've heard is like, you can come in just to snort something and get out. But like, come on, get in and get out. This is for fucking.

Yeah, that's real shit. Anybody in here playing games? You in here bone hawking? Get your ass up out of here. What are you doing? Who are you texting? My mom? No, I'm a realtor.

Okay, cool. God of Danny Brown saying I'm taking my realtor. All right, tell me more about Primaver or Barcelona in general or Spain. What should you do while you're there? I told you. I had my girlfriend. I did my leave. How did you break up with her?

You're just like, this was great? No, actually, we had exchange info, and then I used to go to and I was here when I get into Paris, then we just lost contact. Black chick or white chick? She's white. I just literally just lost contact. I remember every time I'd be,

well, not anymore, but I used to be in Paris, but I was, I wonder what this bitch up to. And you tell you, heck, you just talked to her. God, festival flags. But sometimes, you know what I'd be thinking? Like, when you meet, this is my theory of it. Like, you make girls and be like, damn, I wonder what happened to that bitch.

That bitch did. I was just putting it by head like, that bitch probably died. I ain't seen her. It's so funny. why you try to look at it up on Facebook or like wherever you were kind of like just not there yeah she did yeah or but had kids we are at that yeah that's what i'm saying we at that age where motherfuckers got married and had kids and you know remember we used to get wild and do molly and shit you're

like what you're like think about those girls where you're like okay you're mom now whatever and you're like i wonder if your kids know you have a seven-year-old son if he knows what a wild bitch you were i don't want to think about my mom like that you're thinking about drugs and bathrooms yeah yeah but no I mean, if your dad was a DJ, right? Yeah, but it was, I would say it's more a hobby. Oh, okay. Than him going out there. I mean, he had kids, man.

He was like, those DJ dreams died. Yeah, but he had to have turned it up once or twice. Yeah, my dad, I mean. He had to have at least had a night or two. My dad was in the streets, for show. Yeah. He was in the streets. I love that term.

I mean, yeah. Do you ever, oh, did you see what's it called? the, uh, fuck it, who were those Irish rappers? Yeah, kneecap. Knee cap. Neat cap with buckfast all day and all night. Yeah, I fucks with them. Yeah.

But yeah, I got up on them from that shit, but yeah, I fucks with kneecap. Yeah, what, what was the booze and the food situation like at primavera? I mean, they had good, cook stuff there. Well, I wasn't eating. For one thing. I don't think I ate the entire, I ate some prines. Like I told you ate some prines on the beach and shit. Some what prongs?

Prines. Big ass shrimps. Yeah. Yeah. that we ate some of them. That's the only thing I remember. How you do Molly for three, four days? That's crazy.

I know. You just keep re-upping? No, I had bought a lot. I'm saying, like, you just keep, like, starting to wear it out, go, starting to wear it up. I mean, you try to sleep. I think you slept. You closed your eyes, you looked at your eyelids

for three hours maybe. Yeah. I didn't get up, but then it was like on. Looked to try, this is such a great term. I remember because, I mean, I guess we tried to sleep, but I mean, motherfuckuck was laid down, but then I do remember we was right back up. It was literally probably not

in the morning we was on a beach drinking again wow what time did the festival start every day is it maybe about one maybe noon one okay we're on the time somebody told me it was like a it was like a seven to two festival now seven p.m. to two a.m. yeah it might be I wouldn't doubt it that makes sense but I like that because I do remember I did play at super where I was like this is this I play at like dinner midnight or something like that I was like this is trash that that's what I don't like playing super late like that I know but if everyone's up, like, the problem with like, it's camping festivals and then like non-camping festivals.

Non-camping festivals are over at 11. That means the headliner gets on at 9.30 and they have to be done an hour and a half. Oh, yeah. And then everyone pours out, but you're like, 11, I'm not done. Everyone's on drugs and they're pouring us out into the city. So you ever, do you ever camp at a festival? Yeah. I mean, I always think like, so much of it don't be fucking in intention and shit.

I did not. but there was a girl that if I had found her I could have fucked in a tape I just couldn't find her I was trying yeah that's what I think of my hair

like it's just because I'm at a festival man I'm doing my we fucking man well dude when you had an RV and this chick I was just talking to and then she was like she was like looking around

I was like can I take a shower in here later I was like yeah and she was like when I have a festival fling it was all on the back of that RV that was fire yeah because even now

I've been watching the P. Diddy trial and they talked talking about this motherfucker was going to Bernie man. See, I was like, this thing was turning Bernie man to Diddy parties. I knew I wanted to go for a reason. I just thought it was a sand.

That's my only concern. Diddy was out there getting, wow. Dude, my concern with like getting invited to a Diddy party is like, if you like show up and like, oh, it's a Diddy party, and I wanna be like, which side am I on? But see, this is a thing that I've been watching the trial. From what I'm under, I mean, I guess it was freaky shit

going on at the parties, but that's not, they're not talking about that. The freak officers, It was his own private parties. That wasn't happening at the big parties that he was having with all the celebrities. So why does everybody go, I was there, but I left early?

Yeah, because- Why don't they just go, I was there, I stayed till the end, and then nothing happened. Yeah, I ain't see shit, you know? But yeah, the freak-offs was great. That one story, they talked about, it was the one male prostitute, he said, he came in and he was dancing for Cassie

and shit, they were about to do the thing, and then he looked up, the niggie was like, hiding behind the blinds with a hijab on jacking all. That's a hijab! I'm like, they're like a jack-off ninja. He hiding behind shades and curtains with a hijab on beating his shit. That is wild. The hijab is what got me, but they say he'd have a banana.

He'd have all type of day. But every escort was like, soon as he said, the first word, they knew it was diddy. Like, what the fuck is you doing? I mean, if you tell, that's so funny. He's trying to be like, it's not made. You take the damn bandana off, man. We know it's you. He didn't move.

Take that, take that. Where are you fucking that in your hotel? Huh? For the thing like that, you'll take a chick back to the hotel. Where are you mean? If you're like festival fleeting type stuff. Right, right, right. Yeah.

That's some dirty shit. Don't be out there musty. The motherfuckers was stanking. Everybody stinks. Yeah, man. That shit is dang. I will say what I did notice at this Coachella, this new version of kids,

aren't like what we were. Explain. I don't know if it's better or it's worse, but they all seem a lot respectable. I've seen them picking up trash and throwing cigarette butts away. Throwing cigarette butts away. Everybody just seemed like respectful.

Like I was like, damn, I remember when we was like festival, like we were wild and didn't give a fuck. Like, but they out here, they'd be a nice, like real respectable kids. So shout out to these new generation, dude. Dude, you're always so positive. That's what I always take.

You're right. Shout out to the generation. For real. They got it together, man. I really got to, I mean, children are our future. That is the problem with campus. Glastow for sure, it's like if somebody's drunk and can't find the way to the bathroom,

your tent will do fine. Oh shit. Yeah. You clamp that Gonsonbury? Yeah. Glastonbury's seen like, cause it rain and shit and fucking, then you literally just in the middle and a fucking farm type shit, like sheep and shit walking back.

So you gotta bring these boots that are up to here, wellies? I know. I play Glacenberry like three times. Really? How was that to play? I mean, it's the, I mean, it's like, you feel like championship games shit. Like I look at some festivals like, I look at, to me,

I always use sports as like a metaphor for music or whatever the fuck. So I look at it like, you know, you play your season and you going to festivals getting picked that, that's like going to the playoffs. But if you play in like Coachella, Glassonbury, oh, you went to the chip, you play in the championship game now, you know?

And you got to put on a show for that. That's not one you can fuck around. I'm fucking stressed. And my last Glass &Berry said, they played on TV. Because you know you can watch Glass &Berry live on TV. I'm like, oh, they play. And I didn't find out right in.

until I'm going on stage because I had to sign the paper. And I'm like, she's like, can you sign this? And I'm looking, I'm like, to be broadcasted live. But I'm like, and then that was the dope shit because me and my girl, after we left, we stayed in London the next two days

and we just sat in bed and just watch Glastonbury for the hotel, oh wow. The whole time, Coldplay killed it. God it rules. It's so sprawling and there's like almost different villages you stay in. So I was on top of like where the main stage is and there's up this hill

and I'm like towards the top of the hill. So how I was camping, is it, I mean, you are a camping backpacking type of motherfucker, so for me, for, it still takes them getting used to, the dirt. Just sleeping on the ground and shit. You have those little pads. Just to hear music. See, I talk to real fans, man, because I guess what?

As much as I love music, I ain't doing that shit. You would love it. You couldn't pay me to fuck. You would love it. First of all, the drugs are everywhere. I'm talking the old Danny, not now. Oh, day, yeah, because I would be sober, I don't know. I would pass out anyway.

I wouldn't give a fuck. I heard Tyler was in Bonner of the Eurozone. camping. Tyler? Yeah. The creator? Yeah. I don't believe that. Maybe it could have been future. I don't believe it. I mean camping, like they tour bus was there and they stay at night. They just were in in Gen Pop camping and they just slept over. I don't I wouldn't I can't see that. He'd get mobbed, right? There's no way you can't even if it's like 2012, 2015. No, that wouldn't happen. It's fun because you're just there with everybody. So it's a communal thing. But what is the shower in situation? Wet wipes. I'm glad you asked. That ain't that ain't gonna get it. There's no

shower you gotta just do this that ain't gonna get it yeah for fucking it's tough because you gotta probably use a couple that ain't gonna do it you probably gotta use three bonneroo is disgusting too it's so hot and then that get muddy and dirty like the dirtiest is bonneroo how do you fuck with a dirty pussy they do it all the time and then there's so much dust in there as soon as you get wet the fucking dust is gonna connect with the juice I'm just saying that's just me that's just me and my freaky frog thoughts maybe motherfuckers ain't fucking in them tents because it's too dirty they're just them where they fucking I mean they just not they like this yeah right this just can't

happen we too dirty man they're fucking day three fuck no day three that's when your inhibitions are gone you're like everybody's been fucking I haven't been fucking oh yeah I guess I got fuck I'll be the dork or driving back six hours back to fucking wherever I mean I know those I feel like the the the freaky shit is really like EDC but that ain't like tents and shit that's city yeah I feel like that's because that's drug central. Isn't that how Coachella is? Everybody goes back to like, do they camp there?

Do they go back to? It'd be like a lot of after parties and shit. Yeah. Coachella, because Coachella got like a lot of houses and shit like around the grounds and a lot of people be renting those houses and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then that's what I think Charlie had a party at one of the houses, not too far. I think she's going to have a nice future. What are you mean? It's a done deal. The future is here. You know she's not British. She's putting on a fake accent.

The future is here. No, Charlie's so British. Nah, she's faking it. No, man. Yeah, there's an expose about her. No, man. I've known Charlie way too long. In correlation with TMZ.

No, I've known Charlie. She's faking it for props and it's worked to her favor. I've known Charlie. Listen, I get it. You're defending your friend's fake character, but that's from, she's from Chicago. She's from like the streets of Chicago. She has not, she calls it pop. I mean, that's a good theory.

No, that's British all day. That's British to the T. That motherfucker got tuna on her, right? Who is that Czech Polish rapper you did one with? Oh, Tyu Krenka. Damn, that was good, too. Yeah. I was really just like, I was in, I had a show in Warsaw.

Yeah. And, where at Auschwitz? No. Actually, actually, no, it was the best show at my entire tour. Really? Yeah, I didn't know Warsaw gave it up like that. I was like, damn, because I've been there before. Yeah.

But it was a way, it was a long-ass time ago. But when I came back, it was like, it was crazy. It was like one of the best shows that I, that I had. As far as like the turnout. Yeah. You know. Amsterdam was crazy too, but then Tyu Krenka was, and then just hit me up. It was like, yo, he's backstage and was like, obviously, you know, you're backstage.

You got to be somebody. I was like, yo. Yeah, how did you get that? And then, you know, just told me who was. And I was like, all right, I'm checking music out. And then I went to, literally, I was leaving the venue. I put on my headphones and I played, was playing some songs. I was like, oh, this shit kind of dope.

I mean, I just fucking DM's like, yo, you want to make some shit? Wow. Hell yeah. And then I got back to the crib. As soon as I made something that I thought I can hear on, I sent it to her, knocked it out. Yeah, that was so cool. The craziest feature was, it's Brokey, though. It's Brokey.

Why? It's fucking, because these kids are insane. Like, I literally, I wanted, because Brokey is like one of my favorite rappers right now, so I definitely wanted to have Brokey on an album. So I was like, you know, making songs that I thought Brokey would sound dope on. I finally found one. I sent it to Broke. I was like, yo, can you do something? You're like, oh, this shit crazy.

Literally like 20 minutes later. the verse was back. No, like, how the fuck did you just do that? Like, I recorded it off my phone. Like, your phone, and it sounded perfect like it was in a fucking million dollar studio. Where's broke you from? In the Bay.

Oh, cool. Hell yeah. How's the Bay rap scene now? I don't know. I can't say I really know too much about the rap scene that's going on in the Bay. I like this album, too. I just want to get back at a festival a second,

but like, it was, it was all, like, as you were playing it for me, I felt like it was so cool you'll be able to like listen to it. You're like, this is, I don't know, this is Chicago Grime Corps. This is Tucson hiking, this is whatever. And it's like super subgenres.

Yeah, that's just, that's the internet in me. That's really all that was just finding these artists like somebody like Synthony, like doing the breakcore stuff and stuff like that. Yeah. What is that? I mean, I guess to me break core, it's not, I would say just like a subgenre like drumming bass.

Sorry, I'm looking for a drum and bass. Or like jungle, you know? Yeah. It's just like, I guess it's a lot more faster, I guess. I don't know. You fuck around with, uh... I like Nightcore, too. What's Nightcore?

Nightcore is just, they just speed songs up super... Any song you can think of, it's a nightmare. It's a nightcore version on the fucking internet. They just speed left and get it going. It's fast as fuck, and it sounds like chipmunks and shit, but it'd be dope. You get a New Orleans down. I'm gonna do, I'm actually Nightcore. I'm a nightcore my album.

I'm gonna do a nightcore. The new, oh, really? Yeah. Oh, this album, you play a, whoa. Yeah, I'm gonna do a nightcore version. You know New Orleans Bounds? I love New Orleans Bonds, Big Frida. God.

I play Maddiva? Big Frida, yeah. You play what? I play mad shows with Frida. Really? Yeah. I only say mad shows, but we've definitely been, we've shared dressing rooms before, so.

My friend was doing Becky, not Becky, yeah, I think so, was doing Molly for the first time. She goes, what should I, is there any music? I should play. I'm like, yeah, Big Frida. If you want to do you want to dance. You want to shake and her. We will make you.

Man, it's been sometimes, but I don't know. I've done Molly before where I just wanted to listen to like Bjork. Interesting. Yeah, that's not no speed, Molly. Like, just like, yeah, that was the real version. I want to fake shit. Where the meth at? What is it that's going to make me?

Sometimes you really do. Yeah, you're like, I didn't want to chill out and have a in vibe. I want to turn up. This ain't the turn up, Molly, man. Where the horny Molly at? When I was in a, when I was, like, you mean meth. Yeah, all right. Call whatever you want.

When I was in glass where I was passing my fucking Viking friend from Edinburgh and I was like uh she was hey do you have ecstasy I was like yeah I was like it was Molly she goes oh no she's like I want ecstasy why not Mandy why she wanted that speed oh okay yeah she was like I'm I'm looking for something to wake me up yeah I feel that though see that's how I know I was fucked up with the whole Molly and shit in anyway because I thought that's what it was. Right. So when I got Molly that did that, Mandy, that's one of the first time that happened. I was like, I don't, just ain't it. I don't like this. Yeah, I'm not even moving. Yeah, I'm like, I love you so much. It's making me want to take a nap.

Get the yawn. I can't move. I guess it's just lay it in bed with my eyes closed, but I'm not going to sleep no time soon. And I'm just sitting here listening to Massive Attack. Like, what's going on? You ever play those festivals that are like not English speaking? No, I haven't. All rap and rock and. And, like, and, like, like American. I played, I played, um. There's some like South American ones. No, like one you said like Roskilde,

that's like fully like almost all rock. And I played that, which was dope. Where is that? Crazy metal, I think it's Denmark. Rosskill. Yeah. What was that like? That was, I mean, it's like you say,

that's one of those ones. I didn't, I wouldn't say I felt like a token type situation, but I was like, I don't belong here. Are there rap festivals? Yeah, rolling out. What? The rolling loud. Where's that?

They have them all around, but mostly Miami, I think is the main of it. But yeah, rolling loud. But I feel like what we would consider to be rap festivals, be like a lot of the radio stations, like they had like every summer like hot 97 summer jams. Right, right, right. Those would be considered to be like more urban.

They didn't rock the bells last year or the year before. I went to a couple of those and it ruled. Rock the bells, I think they had stopped doing them for a long time. Just a lot of old timers. Play your two songs. I play Rock the Bells before. Really?

Yeah. At the Bay One, I think. Yeah. Rock the Bells is, I mean, as someone that's becoming a real old rapper, we need those festivals and shit for the elderly so we can still get up there and be able to kick our bar. Yeah. It was pretty cool to see like MC Light or like people like that come out and do their wants. And it's like, I'm reading it like, you haven't played in 20 years.

And they still be able to kick that shit. That's the thing that I love to see about it. And everyone remembers that like, yeah. And that's just dope, too, because you've got to think, like, how rap concerts are now and the way people tour. Rap music wasn't like that back in the 80s and 90s. So there's a lot of these people that was fans of them that grew up and never got a chance to see them live.

And they were just not getting a chance to see these older rappers because they didn't tour. Well, I saw Radio City and City Field, but more Radio City. You see them come out and they were just like, and then taking pictures of themselves, even like, not Prime Minister, pretty nice. Who's the other one? MC Search. MC Search. And it's like, I can't believe we're here.

Yeah. We never thought we get to this. It took LF CoolJ to bring us here. So I think that is dope that they do that. And then they got the, what was that the, I think it's the 50th anniversary show. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was that summer. It was last year or the year before.

And it was like, so they all like, let's show what hip hop is. Oh, yeah, so you went to that. Oh, that was dope. Yeah, city field was a great one. Fucking, who's the one that what's the name always likes? Who's just Kane? Big Daddy Kane, yeah. Yeah, he was there.

So fucking the Wild Wild West playing that. It just brings you back. Kumo D. God, it brings you back to high school. That's how I know I was, when I was a kid, remember with the whole Kumo D and L.O.KooJ beef and they was going back and forth. I was on Kumo D side.

Really? Yeah. That's how I know I was just, I mean, it was like the first big rap battle. And that was like mainstream rap. That was like, I remember because it was like doing like contest, like who you think won. And I remember everybody was going for LL KooJ

and just me wanting to be different. I was going for Kul-D. But obviously I know that I'm a dot that fucking LL KooJ won. Obviously. I remember when he had a greatest hits album and the review was, I don't think you understand.

Rappers don't have greatest hilltel. They're not around. Who, L.L.? Yeah, but even just that. And to have a greatest hit, it's like, yeah, even an album you just put out, it was, it was good. Wow.

I was like, damn, I couldn't believe it. I'm not saying that I was, wouldn't think LL, Cooge could still make some cool shit, but just, in this day and age of what rap is now, it just, I just didn't expect that. But he's working with Q-Tip, so they was going to make it happen.

I saw what's her name come out at City Field for that, Rock for 50th, Queen Latifah. Yeah, that's what I said. And she came out with this big, like, yeah, her, she brought it back, the same thing you're saying, yeah, yeah. Same thing you're saying, though, she's like, I'm going to, like, win votes here.

Yeah, I'm gonna, like, put on a show. She had to be the queen! Because you, one thing about a person like Queen Latifah, you got so many kids and everybody else, they don't even, like, who are you? Yes, she was telling them. Yeah, she was telling them. She was, she was top tier.

Like, Queen Latifah definitely was like the best female rapper for like three, four, four years. Yeah, and so I think she was saying, like, you don't know who I am, but you should know. She was like the first real, real, like, I feel like gangster. Even though she wasn't saying like gangster shit, but you believed what she was saying. She wasn't like, you know, pretty cute, girly rapper.

Yeah, it was like just hard lyric shit. Yeah. And she would get on songs with dudes and body them type shit. So. She'll say, it's one lyric. I don't know exactly what it was, but she goes, but can she be a crossover success, they said after the first of my 87 acting roles

and it was like Jesus And then just to take it to the next level With the acting shit Yeah that's what I'm saying I think that she want to fucking prove I mean you know to the younger generation To be like I'm not I'm as a fucking rapper First I'm not a fucking actress

That makes me want to go to a festival Ah you go to festivals every year man That's your shit I know but like yeah I'm actually going to one next week Where outbreak Where's that London in Manchester

There's two days. I'm actually pretty excited because a lot of my friends are going to be out there, so it should be fun. Really? Yeah, Jane's going to be out there, for us, children, I think, gonna be out there. Oh, nice.

So it should be dope. Wait, there was something I was gonna say about the album and I forgot. Oh. Who was it? Who's from the Bay? They called, she said it was... Creighton with a dick.

Creation with a dick. What's the whole verse? What's the whole verse? I don't know the whole verse like that. No, no, not the whole verse. Just what she rhyming creation with a dick with. I don't know. Damn it, I gotta get that later.

I was trying to remember and I was like, I forgot what the first part of the rhyme was, but I'm crayshod with a dick is so specific to who the fuck would know that. And I told all my friends in the bay, and they're like, what? Actually, last time I was in San Francisco, I played the show with Brokey.

Oh, really? It was our first time getting to meet him, so that was dope. Wow. Yeah, we gotta do this. How about this? One day, I'm going to trouble, but like when I'm, I'll be gone.

when this comes out. Mm-hmm. You do a festival somewhere. Yeah. I'll come meet you. Yeah. And then like, I'll be camping. No, you could roll with me.

The day you're there, I'll come in, roll with you, get some air conditioning, get some free bottles of water. That's gonna have to be next year. Yeah, next year. I don't think I got nothing else. Like I told you, my whole summer's off. Yeah, next year.

I've been picking up little spot dates here and there just to, you know, pay some bills. Yeah. But for the most part, I'm not gonna be working to make sure. So I'm sure I will get a lot of festivals next year after this album come up. Probably. Are you gonna do like a, okay, we gotta end it anyway,

but like are you gonna, are you gonna do like a play this all the way through or kind of stuff? Or are you gonna like mix in old stuff with new stuff? Or are you gonna do like play solidly this and then mix in old stuff? When I played the tour, when I tour for this album? Yeah, I'm gonna play a majority of this because I haven't created an album for live in my last two albums. Yeah, you're gonna dress up, you're gonna have like a dress up

and like, and like character like changes? Yes, you know, I'm gonna do some. Because the character grows through it. Yeah. He goes from upstart, like an ODB kind of guy, to like a rich, to done and forgotten, to like to a comeback. That's not the same outfit. Yeah, you're right.

Damn, now I gotta do outfit changes. You gotta have ripaway layers. You're right, though. But I am, I put some thought into this and I'm going to play a huge chunk of the album and then, you know, mixing the classics that they want to hear. Wow. You get these people to play with you. with you sometimes? Yeah, I mean, I'm not, I can't say right now because I'm not all of,

it's not already set in stone, but most of the people that are on the album are going to be opening acts and they're going to just switch out here and there. So, so once they're opening already, then they'll play with you. Yeah, then we'll play on my show. And then I got songs with them too, so I'll come out on their sets and do songs with them. We're trying to create more of being like a Danny Brown show and some opening acts and give it more of a festival vibe. like maybe have four or five acts from different walks of life and different genres and shit and then you know I love that this whole idea of like no openers come out do your show and leave it's like come on man

maybe have like a DJ on you know yeah it's fun to watch some fucking low-level band it's a mini festival I want it to be I don't want people to I want people to come and dance let me have six hours here yeah not come and stare at the stage right and just stand there like party this is more of a party this not a rap show yeah so that's the vibe I'm going for I love it. Okay, before we go. Okay, so you worked with a lot of people on this. What's going on with this collaboration that I want?

Well, yeah, with Billy Strings. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. You went to every genre possible in this fucking album, Stardust, and you left off Bluegrass. I mean, it's a little. It's on there with a little bit with the Quedeka song. But, no, I definitely down.

I'm done. Like I said, we talked back and forth. Yeah. You were making progress. It was making progress. But obviously he's a busy guy. And then he won a Grammy and it's like, yeah, come on.

That's how it happens. Come on. That's usually how it happens. But we weren't talking. It was making it happen. I finally went to a show. How was it? Sick.

But another thing too. Festival vibe. I do know another thing too. He had hit me up and was like, yo, are you, um, I'm lactose and talk. tolerant. But you're trying to make me shit on myself?

I can't do this. Really? I'll be fucked up tomorrow. Speaking. But thank you. I love them. I know how a little professional I am. Wait, wait.

So you were saying what? No, last time I talked to him, he was like, are you in Michigan? Both Michigan boys? I know, no, he seemed like he was there like we wanted to link up. Oh. And I'm like, oh, no, I live in Texas. He's like, fuck, ah.

So I think that, I think we were making a lot of progress because he thought I was still in Michigan and we could just link up in any given moment. Oh, right. And that wasn't the thing. Because I think he more so wants to get in the studio together than us emailing tracks back and forth. What's the process? You just go on a walk with somebody like that and then just like, let's talk a little

what we want to do? Or you just go sit in a studio and just like smoke weed and just like until something happens? That's usually what, like, that's how I did with this album. I would fly them out and have them out here for the weekend. And you just got to go to lunch. And then the first day, we'll just build chemistry and talk, listen to music, you know, get to know each other, see where our limits are and what we can say to each other and how

we can behave in front of each other. Yeah. And then the second day, get to work. And then the third day, fix what we worked. It's so funny, you'd probably put on airs and then somebody's like, I did a bunch of mall, someone's saying, like, what? I mean, you know, whatever. It's like, yeah, whatever.

You know, like, you do it. I do it. Yeah, all right, let's let, let's go. Yeah. But for the most part, I worked. He comes through here every tour. Yeah, yeah, I know. So, yeah, next time he's here, I definitely try to get up with him.

It would be so cool. I definitely stay in touch. I hit them up, you know. Really? Yeah. Every time I see him do some cool shit, I'd be like, yo, that was dope, you know. So we definitely, I would say we are acquaintance. First of all, I love that.

At minimum, that's fucking great. So I could, I will say. You both put on such good fucking shows. I would say it's positive. It's more treading positive that that will happen. And as me, a person that loves to touch and experiment with all types of forms, I'm excited to do it. So whenever he has the time and we can make it happen, I'm here.

Have you listening to any of that stuff? Yeah. It's like, I just see this overlap of like, of hyphy music, of all the different cultures. I just think it's the level of songwriting. And that's what I think we are, I wouldn't say, we just, we're about in the same, you know, range of what we can do lyrically. Interesting.

That we can find something to connect on that would make it make sense. Yeah. You know, that's my whole thing, is what makes sense in my world. Because you see a lot of times where people work together and they make songs and the shit don't work

is because it's no chemistry there for it to work. Making music with somebody is just like anything else. You're both from Michigan. You're both sober now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I think. lived hard enough to like gets over for a reason. I'm totally confident that we can make something work, you know.

Yeah. And neither one of you judge drugs. No. Do that, all right. Anyway, all right. Well, that's great. At least we're trending. Yeah, no, it's going to happen.

This is all about, that's one thing about musicians, it's just schedule. Yeah, you can't just throw out something shitty. And a lot of us, and it's, it's, like I say, it's fun to do shit, you know, even, but a lot of times, um, just having that, you know, that being able to work in the same room. And I used to be a person that hated doing that. And that was just me being so self-conscious of being like, man, what if I get there and I don't do nothing good?

You know, just having that pressure on myself. And, you know, but now I understand that it's not no pressure. Yeah, I can be whack one day. I'm gonna be able to come back and fix it. But it's all about having that camaraderie of being in a room and working on a song together. Yeah. And then I keep building something.

It sounds like that's the whole starter album was that. Mm-hmm. Even what you told me that we're like, you're like, when they were like, hey, we want to rap with you, what do you want? And then you're going like, what do you want to see you do? You're this new core.

Because they're kids. Like everybody I was working with are damn near under 25 and under. I'm fucking 44 years old. So I'm living like, I could be their dad type shit. Yeah. So for me, instead of having these kids coming to a room, and a lot of them this they first time ever being in a studio

and being like, do this, do that, do that. Trying to tell them what to do and be like, no, y'all been listening to my music. you know what I'm saying y'all what would you want to hear Danny do how would you want you know what I'm saying as you being a fan and you've been listening to my music and you know what I can do what would you like to hear and you're the one making the music so that gave them less pressure to for them to have to do something good

to where I'm being like no I trust you I don't care what it's you know what I'm saying you tell me what to do so and that's what made the album I think a lot better because it made me open my mind up to understand what these kids are into instead of me being an old boomer and being like y'all whack y'all don't know shit yeah you know they do with comedy like these kids today do this and this but but if was your if you were the older comedian you'd be like this sick you guys are doing great new stuff it's amazing exactly Danny I love you buddy I'm so excited love you too man so excited people to hear this one you got a vinyl on this one right hell yeah that's the whole point that's what west was going on

right now we're trying to be able to get the vinyals and the hard copies to be out before the digital versions. I don't know if that's going to happen, but... I always fuck up with that. Yeah. It'd be better if you did. It takes like three months. Because it would be cool for someone that, you know, that pre-ordered a hard copy and they will get it two days before everybody had it online. Yeah. So that gives you more incentive to buy the vinyl. I got your old one on vinyl. Thank you, man. Yeah. I did not buy it. I stole it. But I did, I go out of my way to steal it.

That's right. It wasn't an easy thing to do. I like that better. I appreciate that better I know you got the money to buy You got a record under your shirt The fact that you risk your freedom Shows me you love me a lot more Yeah That the record starts so funny

We're out here Buddy I love you Congratulations Stardust everybody Fucking check it out Yes thank you man And the pod and everything Yeah man

The Danny Brown show Hell yeah Yeah I'm really excited for you This thing really made me like I called so many people I gotta reconsider What I'm doing It was crazy.

I had never been inspired by a goddamn rap album before. Yeah, I will agree with you. I ain't even going to laugh. You can feel it, right? Yeah. You knew what you were doing. I would say, this is my favorite, I can honestly say this is the favorite, my favorite album that I made and not necessarily have to do everything with the music,

you know, but just because of where I'm at in life and everything that I went through to get to that. Like I, if I didn't go through all the bullshit that I went through, I wouldn't have never made an album like this, you know? Yeah. So now it's like I got my priorities. I care about shit that the old me will be like, you a bitch, if I even thinking about that shit.

That's so funny, because it's like, no, it's so I'm committed to this fucking art form. Yeah, so now I'm in this space now. So now, like I say, I'm- Because you wanna play it off, like, eh, you know, whatever. Because a lot of my albums, I feel like when they ended, a lot of people, you know, you felt sad, or it's like I was gaslighting you to feel,

to feel bad about my drug addiction. But with this album, every time I listen to it and it's over with, I feel inspired. And that's, and I, I can't say I've ever done something like that. So that's why I got out of it. I was inspired afterwards. I feel emotional. Even talking about it now, I'm like, oh, so yeah. I mean, it's so great.

I heard an interviewer with, I think Roger Waters might have been the other one for Pink Floyd. I don't know. It doesn't matter. We'll say it was Roger Waters. And it was a 25th anniversary of Dark Side of the Moon. And they go, hey, when. this came out, did you know like it was going to catch on like this, like, you know, what it was going to be?

And he was like, yeah, I wrote Dark Side of the Moon. I could hear it. And I kind of, and I kind of have that same kind of confidence with Zapp. I'm like, I'm not, I know what it's going to do for me and what I wanted to do, you know. Like I'm not about to sit here and put expectations on it or anything, but I feel like it was something I needed to get out in my life, and especially in my discography. Now where it goes from here, I don't know, but this had to happen. I mean, it's, it's like this, you told me the one guy you worked with, like, and he was like, I've only done concept albums.

Yeah, Cordaca. Cordaca. Mm-hmm. Which actually, his album's coming out real soon, and it's fucking amazing. Like, I'm, to me, I'm at the point where I'm, like, honored that these people want to work with me, you know? Like, I'm not like, I'm on some humble shit. I'm not like, oh, Danny Brown, you should want to work with me. It's like, man, I can't believe you.

guys respect my music enough to want to work with me because I look at y'all like fucking superstars. Well, you're so good to stand positive. He was like, you've been asking about Kendrick and Drake. You're like, what'd you think? You're like, oh, that half-time special was awesome. And I was like, oh, so you don't like Drake? I'm like, no, Drake rules. Yeah. And you're like, oh, right, you just see the positive in everybody. Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying I always was like that, but I know music is subjective in a sense where, no, it's nothing's whack, really. Like, you look at a motherfucker like Captain Beefheart. When he was putting that shit out, you can't tell me, motherfucker was like, this.

This is horrible. And then now it's still, people still talk about the album to the day and go back like, that's a fucking classic, you know. And that's a concept album. Yeah. Yeah, all the, all the, David Bowie, whatever, Ziggy Stardust, Tommy. They had some, like, concept albums. Yeah, but I also, I do have a theory of that.

And I believe that music has dropped in the tier list of entertainment. Say it again? Music has dropped in the tier list of entertainment, meaning that people, music at that time were movies for people. people in some sense. Same way motherfuckers used to listen to the news and then they got to watch the news and you stopped listening to the news, but people still listen to the news somewhere.

You get what I'm saying? That's that same kind of thing, I feel like. So now with that we have so much music. So much. And the playlists and this and that, the art of people getting together being like, don't listen to it till I come over. And y'all all sit together around in a room

and you all listen to the album for the first time and experience this like a movie. And I'm pretty sure there's still some kids that's doing that to this day. But that's not, that was the whole culture of it at that time. No interruption, put on a CD or a tape before that vinyl.

And we're playing this all the way through. We're right and that's the only time we can hear it. It's not like, well, I heard the Spotify, but I'm gonna- And then we all, then maybe only one person had it. And then we all had to go over his house to listen to it, you know? We didn't all buy it that day. Rolling Stone, it was like the new albums and it was only four or five. It was the time where we got it every month, every two weeks.

Like, did you buy, who bought, who bought? All right, we go to your crib and you know what I'm saying? And then if it's fired, then everybody else buy it. But if it was always like the first one, who gonna be the test, Get the two tape jacks, tape it to tape. Yeah, yeah, dub them. Yeah, the quality is so bad. You ever do the tape where you're like,

be quiet? It's not even like two and one. I used to tape loop. Tape what? Tape loop. That's when you, okay, I had a karaoke machine, then you know how you can, it'll be like the intro of the beat where there's no rapping. It's okay, so you dub that and then you pause it right

when it stops, and then you keep doing that until it loops over and over again, and then I would have the blank part and then I can wrap over that. It might be off some time, it might be skipped off. Actually, Nas, on Nas Il-Matic, the song, One Love, that's a pause loop. Really? Two-tip, Paul's looped that.

You know, he's actually British. He's fake a big American. There we go again. All right, Danny, buddy, I love you. I love you too, man. Thank you, Doc. I want this vinyl. Yeah, yeah, I got you, man.

Right. Not for real. Well, that's the reason I had you in for one free vinyl. I got you. No, I got, man, man, that's one thing about me, man. I mean, that's like, even me, I'm moving right. Now, I just literally had so many fucking boxes of vinyl. It was like, don't nobody want these, bitch.

I can't give them away. Really? Always got a garage full of my vinyl. You can't chuck them. It's so valuable. I must really don't want to these. Take us like 30 bucks each to make. Like, okay.

You know, all right. I didn't give them as parting gifts. Anybody come over. Leave with Danny Brown discography. You think I bought a bunch here. Like here, just take them. I don't know what. Put them somewhere.

Yeah, use them for ski shooting. These boxes are just fucking collect. I can collect. All right. I did find a box of old atrocity exhibition t-shirts. I know people want those. What? I'm stashing them shit.

Atrocity t-shirts? My album, Atrosity exhibition. I actually did the, when I did the merch for that, I did it with Brain Dead, the company. Okay. So, um, I mean, the clothing brand and, um, so they are like, really, people want those shirts. They're, like, super rare. Like, so, but I'm, I'm stashing. Yes, so those shows for, like, hell.

They gotta be like a honey to pop. Yeah. I tell you what I did once, I was in Indianapolis. I went to a record store. And, um, I, I, then I went to the comedy section. comedy section, I saw my comedy album, my very first from 2011, was in there, $4, and it was like, cool. I would never see them. Oh, sure. I only made a thousand, I think, ever. Oh, Dan, that's fire, though. Yeah, I was like, what? And then I, like, bought it, and then I sold it

at my show for 200 bucks. Fire. That's what you call inflation. That's the only one we have here. That's a real hustler, man. Damn, you Jewish. Yeah, I was like, that Danny found out. Jews are different. You're really Jewish. All right. Thanks, buddy. Thank you, man. All right.

Okay, that's the episode. What are the odds? This is straight. Probably slim. Probably very slim. Once again, go listen to Star Dust right now, you guys. Shout out Warp Records for putting this out. And for, like, legitimately, when I talk to him?

When's it coming out? He goes, hey, they realize how fucking great this album was. And they were like, we need to regroup and think how to release this properly. Um, what was I going to say? Oh, God, it's so fucking good. Again, it's like, and it just reaffirms any comics to listen to it, where it's like, what are we doing this for? It ain't the money.

It ain't the fucking sluts. It's, it's like at its base. It's for you guys. So you can come have a good time. It's going to be a cool shot of those pigeons get in the way. Anyway, I'm going to run through those motherfuckers, if they're all still there. X Danny Brown X on Instagram, the Danny Brown Show, which I've been on multiple times. Tour dates, you should go see them.

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Oh, yeah, this is going to be fucking cool. Slow-mo this, baby. Okay, okay, okay. Bye, everybody. Next week, see ya. Okay, only ten more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first...

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