You Be Trippin' - Burning Man w/ Andrew Schulz | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir

Episode Date: March 31, 2025

Follow Andrew on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andrewschulz/ SPONSORS: -Learn more about Lightstrike at https://Drinklightstrike.com or follow on TikTok and Instagram @‌drinklightstrike. Check out Andrew’s new special Life on Netflix On this episode of You Be Trippin, Andrew Schultz takes Adderall and has a transformative experience at Burning Man, where the art in temporary and people share everything and while rolling on Molly in the desert. He and Ari talk about what it’s like for first-timers, what you need to bring, the crazy art installations, and spending eight days in a Winnebago. They also discuss Ari’s vasectomy, Andrew’s special, and helping each other out in comedy. Other topics include: Shane Gillis, pranksters, sex parties, and electric bikes. Express yourself and burn on! You Be Trippin' Ep. 60 https://www.instagram.com/arishaffir https://www.instagram.com/youbetrippinpod https://store.ymhstudios.com Chapters 00:00:00 - Intro 00:02:49 - Start & Pranksters 00:07:10 - Burning Man, Vasectomies, & Art 00:13:15 - What to Expect, Generosity, & Sex Parties 00:22:39 - First Timers & The Layout 00:25:48 - No Security & Winnebagos 00:32:01 - Burning Man at Night & Bikes 00:35:15 - What Andrew Does There 00:39:23 - Adderall & Molly 00:42:29 - HIs First Experience & Videos 00:52:22 - The Cost & Feeling Good 01:00:00 - Helping Each Other Out in Comedy 01:18:52 - Principles of Burning Man 01:27:27 - Getting In and Out 01:34:24 - Music 01:42:26 - Shooting Specials 01:52:51 - Wrapping Up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's for you. One, two. What is that? Donate it to someone. I'm gonna take them. What is that you pay the guests? Yeah, your time just to like make sure they have uber money or something like that Just like I'm making money off it. Yeah, you should have some. Yeah, I get paid for spots. I take that money I guess that's good. Yeah, I think that Morley no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no you feel like conflicted? Rob Lowe took it. Morley? No, no, I'm not taking it. Rob Lowe took it. Morley what? Like if you didn't do it, would you?

Yeah. I've been doing it for a decade already. I've been paying people. Really? Yeah. Where does this like, what's the impetus for this for you? Takes their time, I don't know.

No, no, but like why do you feel conflicted about it? Like, is this like religiosity in your background, or is this a... No, it's just we should get paid for our work. So it's a comedian thing. It's like we usually overlooked, nobody cares about our time. When there's a bar show and there's no door, then don't pay me.

But when there's a $20 door, of course, pay everybody a little bit. Remember the UCB when they wouldn't pay anybody? I know. And it was like, well, you're lucky to perform here. And you're lucky to get the Galifianakis to come down. Yeah. Silver medal.

Give us our fucking valet money, at least. Yeah. Metzger was like, I'm out $250 on the way and $250 on the way back. To do what? To take a fucking subway down there. Oh, I thought you meant like $250. Yeah, no. It's like, pay my subway.

Yeah. Yeah. I think that was the 250. No, it's like pay my subway. Yeah, yeah. I think that was the idea behind Spot Pay back in the day. It's like you gotta find a way to get me here in time. Yeah. Yeah. I need to take a taxi to get here on time. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Once I met Scott, I was giving out,

I was just splitting the door for the storytelling show. So people were making like a grand on a Tuesday. That's some good money. Yeah, and Metzger was like, oh, my credit card is working. Buddy, get a cab. I have $1,000 waiting for you. And you're out, you can't do 100.

Then he never made it and we all made a little more. I was like, all right. But you're strict about this. What do you mean? Like this is something that's really important to you that you have to do it. You're disciplined. Yeah, I just have it. As erratic as you are. I'm surprised you're this disciplined about things if I didn't get spot money I don't know if I could do it if I didn't have cash on me easily

It's like going to the Convenience hold on. This is You have to do an extra thing like I'm gonna be a good person you you are burning man, I'm learning so much about R.E. This is great, this is great. The fact that you have the cash and you don't have to do an extra thing, you're like, I'm gonna be a good person. You are Burning Man. I'm Burning Man. No, no, no, you are Burning Man. What do you mean?

I don't know if we've started yet. Let's start, all right, let's start. Where you been and where you going? This is R.E.'s Travel Show, yeah. We're gonna talk about travel today. It's UB Trippin', yeah. We're going to talk about travel today. It's UB Trippin'. Yeah. Guys, welcome to the UB Trippin'.

It's a travel podcast. Everywhere we go, somewhere different. And this one is about a state of mind of some sort. I have on today a guest that has corrected his terrible hairstyle and he's now back for your pleasure. Non-Jew Schultz. Thank you. Thank you for clearing that back for your pleasure. Andrew, non-Jew Schultz. Thank you. Thank you for clearing that up for the internet.

What's up, my man? It's going. But yeah, Burning Man, is that what we're doing? I love it. If we've included the beginning, well, it doesn't matter. We'll do it anyway. Yeah, we will. They'll put a Lisa teaser in there.

No, people are capable of being really kind and generous and good when they're emotionally full Interesting yeah, you get a chick and then you're like I'll hold the door now for people. Yeah, I'm getting drained Yeah, you have extra cash lying around you're like when people come to my podcast I want to pay them because it's the right thing to do but having to go outside in the rain to the ATM Oh, yeah, no way you came out in the rain today. Of course. You should make a little money off that. No.

I mean, at least where you're like, yeah. But at least like when you're out at lunch or something, you're like, oh, I don't have a fucking tip money. I'm like, oh, I got some from art. So here's. Rob Lowe took it. Chuck Pollanick, the guy who wrote. Yeah, yeah.

He took it. Really? People take it. Really? People take it. How was Chuck? So interesting. I was a bad interviewer that day. Why, you weren't prepared? I was, I just couldn't get it right.

We were doing something about, oh, full circle, the beginnings of Burning Man. Get outta here. The Mary, whatever they did in San Francisco, those pranksters. You know anything about this? I'm not familiar with it. He was second level or just after these pranksters

that started all these weird shits in San Francisco, in the San Francisco area, like dressing in a salmon outfit and running against the current at a marathon. Yeah. Swimming upstream. Yeah, the SantaCon was started by them. And then it got out of hand. Just like Hamas. Yeah. Yeah. Sanicon was started by them. Yeah. And then it got out of hand. Okay. Yeah.

So they did all this stuff and it was like this small Burning Man thing. Yeah. And it went like into Nevada. Then it became this bigger. So that was the precursor to Burning Man. Well, what are you doing? I'm looking something up. sort of Burning Man. Well, what are you doing? I'm looking something up. I never heard about this. The only rumor I heard about Burning Man while you look this up is that the Dr. Dre was part of the people that discovered it.

What? It's probably not the case. But that he was out in the desert filming. What was that, Tupac video? Cacophony Society, yeah. I don't know. Remember the Tupac video where he's like, they're doing Mad Max? Okay.

So they were out there, and then he saw these guys partying in the middle of the desert, because they were out there while filming it, they're just trying to find a barren desert, and then he saw these white dudes doing wild shit, and apparently he gets involved, and he helps it blow up to what he's saying. I think it's complete bullshit but that's you know the lore. It

was already going. Okay here we go. West Coast group of pranksters called the Cacophony Society. Wow I didn't know this. They did a bunch of pranks. It was people giving organizing hugs spectacularly. Yeah. So they'd have a bunch of like people like Santa's getting on a knowing the route of a bus one by one different stops that's great at first it sounds like oh we're saying there's another one that's another one and just a fuck they're not filmed they're just a fuck with people's perception of reality that's great they're often boring jobs yeah and Palinic wrote Fight Fight Club, Choke.

Choke, what's the other Bateman one that I'm thinking of? Bateman one, he did... Didn't he do the Patrick Bateman? Oh. Am I getting that right? No, I don't think that was him. What was that one? Oh damn, where he was quoting all the,

Huey Lewis in the news, the Seminole Band from the... I don't think that was him. What book was that? Damn it. Well, there's another book that... Oh, damn it. Gone. Damn. Fuck. American Psycho. American Psycho. And then there's another book. Who wrote American Psycho? Brist and Alice. That's what I'm thinking. Okay, my bad. Anyway. Who should have committed suicide?

Yeah. Oh, rough. You don't like to see him that old. Yeah. Yeah. So wait, okay, let's go to Burning Man. Yes, yes, yes. How long you been going?

I think I've gone four times. Who told you about it? So my buddy Bobby. Fake name? What's that? Fake name. No, real name, but I actually won't go too much into who he is.

And you would not expect to go to Burning Man for sure. And so he told me once, I had just broken up with a girlfriend and he was like, hey, what are you doing? And he's like, do you want to come to this Burning Man thing? And I was like, what is it? It's like a concert? Like I had no clue what it was.

I thought it was like a concert. I thought it was like Coachella or some shit. And he's like, no, he's like, just go buy these things. Buy like a face mask and buy this other shit. And I'm like, what is this? Is this like camping? Why do I need like goggles? It's in the desert.

So just buy all this stuff. Buy a canteen for like water. Buy all this shit and then just come meet us. And I go out there and we meet him in Salt Lake City and we drive from Salt Lake City where we pick up the Winnebago to Black Rock, which is where Burning Man is. What year is this?

I'm trying to get a sense of like when you went in the, I have lots of questions. 10 years ago maybe? Okay. Something like that, yeah. Right before the kind of explosion of knowledge of it? Anybody there would be like, it's already over. Yeah. So they say that about New York, too. Exactly. OK, so there's kids coming every day going, what a

city. OK, so here's the thing about Burning Man. It is everything you think it is, no matter what you think it is. So if you're cynical and you're like, this shit is over, it's a bunch of people from L.A. and just models dressed in rhinestones. This is the dumbest, most contrived shit. It's that it is. If you're listening to like weirdo tech, people tell you what the future is going to be. It's that, like I remember going randomly.

This is like maybe 10 years ago, maybe longer than that to like a crypto talk there. Really? Yeah. That does not jive with my, with my, what I think of burning man. Okay. So, so maybe we go like, okay, so I don't even know how we should. Well, you told me you were like, I think you should check out burning man. I was close one time. I'll tell you. And then I had, I've got a mastectomy. You and I, you and I, that's just insulting to me. I need to put a stop to this thing. This thing's got a mind of its own.

I was going to go with Duncan and Merv. Anybody who doesn't know, I just put out a whole special about how my sperm does not swim. We'll talk about it in a minute. But we don't have to talk about it ever again. I'm here to discuss tripping this. Mine really doesn't swim. You think yours didn't? No, you got Shamu. It's just not allowed out of the pool. trip in this is not really doesn't swim.

You got Shamu. It's just not allowed out of the pool. Stuck in sea world. Panama canal closed. Okay. Shamu. But, but, um, tell me what your thoughts of Burning Man. Well, you were like, you should, well, okay, I was going to go. I got a vasectomy. The doctor was like two weeks. Uh, you should be fine.

And then, and then I'm like, all right,, I'll get two and a half weeks before Burning Man I'll be covered. Yeah, and then it's still like leaking pus and I'm like, hey, it's not healed yet like three days out Just all leaking just always And I was like, can I go to Burning Man he goes to describe it I'm like, it's a lot of dust and like he goes Is there any way to not get dust on your penis? Right? I was like, can I go to Burning Man? He goes, describe it. I'm like, it's a lot of dust. And like, he goes, is there any way to not get dust on your penis? And I was like, no.

And he goes, all right, well, you're gonna get an infected dick. And I'm like, what if I go anywhere? He goes, you're gonna have to amputate. I don't know, man, don't get your dick infected. It's a pretty, I don't think anyone's chancing this. And you don't get the vasectomy to also lose your dick. Right.

Yeah. The first guy in history. You may as well just get the vasectomy to also lose your dick right? So I was like fuck couldn't go Mervis took my tent We had a swamp cooler in it and I couldn't do it and I wanted to go back and you were like You should go to Burning Man. I think you'd enjoy it and I remember being cynical but oh really Andrew Yeah, the guy who loves drugs would enjoy Burning Man. And you were like, dude, it's more than that. Yes, yes it is. It is more than that, but it also is just that. Okay. That's why, like, the way I try to approach these things is, first of all, anytime you pitch Burning Man, Yeah. It's like pitching Game of Thrones. You know how, like, it's great, but you sound like a virgin?

Right? There's dragons in castles, right? You're just like, there's no way it's good based on describing the show. But then you watch it. I don't know if you like Game of Thrones or not. I did love it up till five. Of course. Of course. The first few seasons you're like, this is the best show. Hollywood writers took over from actual writers. There we go. Now we're talking. Real guys from Jersey. That Kurt Metzger joke is so funny. He's like, do you know, do you know that the guy who wrote, uh, he goes,

you know the guy who wrote Game of Thrones is from like Ridgewood, New Jersey or something like that. And he's like, do you know that the guy who wrote, he goes, you know the guy who wrote Game of Thrones is from like Ridgewood, New Jersey or something like that? And he's like, what? He goes, do you know how many times you have to get stuffed in a locker to write that? I don't know what the fuck that is. Like you would think it's written in the 1700s by some guy named.

Yeah, yeah, like my grandfather saw a dragon. Anyway, so yeah, that's the thing about it is I, I guess is like what you expect, you could go there and then find that exact thing. Like a bunch of douchebags, like they only just want to do drugs and like there's nothing interesting about it at all. And you could do that. And you could also go there and have like a transformative experience. I know that sounds super corny.

It is, but I get what you're saying, but it does sound corny. How do you say that without being corny? I'm trying to caveat it so that when I do say something like that, you're aware that I'm aware of the reaction to that. Does that make sense? And the eye roll is reasonable. It's like when you're like, like an art firm, like stand up.

By the way, it's Dick jokes. Exactly. Like we feel embarrassed to say it's an art, even though if you really ask us when you're like, like an art firm stand up, by the way it's dick jokes. Exactly, like we feel embarrassed to say it's an art even though if you really ask us we're like, yeah it's a fucking artwork. But we feel a little bad, so yes. So. Not many artists walk drunk white women. Ha ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha ha. How much art is consumed by a bachelorette party? Ha ha ha ha. They all go to the Louvre with dick necklaces screaming Just heckling photo Okay, show your book Okay, so Okay, so you give me give me your perception what you think it is and you're right by the way and everything you think it is

Yeah, well, I know I know I Know I know When people say it's over it's all the Hollywood people showing up and they had locked Locked RVs and they totally not the spirit of it and then Baldinger was like you don't even see those people That's also true. It's 80,000 people and those are a hundred. So let's describe real quick It's like 80,000 people converge onto the desert. It's a non-profit.

You can't wear logos. You can't- Whoa, wow, wow. Yeah, there's no logos. So you can't wear logos. You can't promote anything. It's frowned upon if you wear a Alexander Julianne Calore shirt.

Nobody can go up to you and say, take off your logo. But you can't have, because it's radical acceptance and radical inclusion. there are these tenants, you can look them up, there's like 10 tenants in Burla, but it's about radical inclusion, like how do we make sure everybody's included radically? So you can't do like, hey, this is just a private party with a rope, there's none of that.

You also can't announce beforehand performers that are gonna be there. So they always go into fake names. They don't even announce a name. The idea is you're buying tickets to this event and you're going there to this event to share and give something. There's no money. The only thing you can buy there is coffee and ice and that's off survival, right? That's off survival. That's so you can survive. Coffee, no, but ice maybe, some shit, you know, water, whatever. But yeah. So you can buy water. You, but ice, maybe some shit, you know, water, whatever.

But yeah, but those can buy water. You can buy. I believe it's, I don't even know if you can buy water. Do people show up unprepared and then just like, you could, you could live like a king unprepared because somebody is going there that week. And the one thing that they want to do is in their home, they built a little cart that their gift to the event, to the ply, if you will, is they're giving hot dogs out.

So they spend months building a cart where they can cook hot dogs and they can bike the cart out to the middle of the desert. And when someone hungry, it's been doing drugs all night comes by, they go, Hey, can I give you a hot dog? And there are 80,000 people that are doing different versions of this. That's Abraham. That's, that's the, maybe not the hot dog, but yeah. Yeah. But it was like taking people in the desert, literally.

Okay. So there's a, you're going to find a lot of, you're going to find like a lot of religious backgrounds. You're also going to find like, once you go, you're going to be like, Oh, everything's taking from this. Like every commercial you see is a version, like you'll see the creativity there and then it's in a commercial. Like even movies, like there's a whole, there was that movie that I think,

oh fuck, it was that, fuck, it was a Pixar movie or something, like a guy who goes to the underworld or like he gets concussed, he was playing jazz or something like that. He was at the Blue Note, I think. And then, anyway, the version of the world that they live in or that they go to,

it's called soul, S-O-U-L. Okay. Anyway, the world that his soul goes to, there's like a boat that's driving in the sand because there's no water. It's all Burning Man. Oh, there it is. Wow. Wait. So like, so the world that they go to

is essentially Burning Man. And so a lot of these things inform a lot of pop culture shit. Oh, there it is. Wow. Wait. Okay. So the world that they go to is essentially Burning Man. And so a lot of these things inform a lot of pop culture shit, but you're not there to see it. And keep in mind, there are people that go there, they won't notice a single thing. You'll see children there, like one-year-olds, two-year-olds. You'll see 70-year-olds. There are people that don't party at all.

You see a lot of sober people. There's a marathon. No, sorry, there's a marathon every day. Every marathon, no sorry, is there a marathon every day? Every morning, I think, is it a marathon? But like people just run the whole ground. So it's 80,000 people converge in the desert and it's very organized. There are streets, they.

Streets. Well the city gets organized in a, in like a, and all this is donated time. Nobody makes money, you can't make money on Burning Man. So that is against the rule. You can't promote that you're a DJ gonna be there. You have to come just because you wanna be there. So the biggest DJs in the world

that are getting paid fucking millions of dollars, just go to DJ for free at Burning Man. And if they find out that a camp is promoting one of the DJs, they kick the camp out. They kick them out all the time. Who's in charge? They have like a board. And I think one of the directors died.

But to maintain this over years, because it's so easy, how many things that get bought up by money and then get destroyed? Bonnaroo. Every single festival. The year after Live Nation bought it, there were more arrests on Thursday

than the entire weekend before. So every single festival, right? Everybody's out there doing drugs. Sep Glastonbury's independently owned. Well, and maybe it's still the best festival out there. They won't sell.? Everybody's out there doing drugs. Sep Glastonbury's independently owned. Well, and maybe it's still the best festival out there. They won't sell. Then there's kids there too,

and there's sober adults, there's everybody. So, you're going there essentially, and the idea is what can you give to the, what is your gift? And the gift can be really small. Like I took a pink Starburst one year, and every time I was out, I had a good conversation with somebody,

I just gave them a little pink Starburst, and I let them think that I just randomly reached into my pocket and they got the pink one. Oh, that's pretty cool. Right? So it's really cool. Right? But some people, what they do is they just have like Chapstick.

OK. Some people make a magnificent art car, and it takes them the whole year. And an art car is essentially, it could be like a boat on wheels and it's an actual size of a ship. And so then you're not giving anything tangible to people. You're giving them experience, right? You can give them your time. You can just sit down with people and be like, Hey, tell me whatever's on your mind. I'm here. Some people heckled.

Like Lucy, what was that? Like, uh, the psychiatric advice from Snoopy. Is that, I don't know what this is. Yeah. Lucy's psychiatric advice from Snoopy is that I don't know what this is. Yeah Lucy's psychiatric advice Is it an ad no it's from peanuts it's from oh sure My name's a you know, this is not related. Yes. Sure. Yes, you know, I'm talking about right? You've seen this there's also like you'll just be somebody that's sitting there with a microphone You could just heckle people as they walk by Now I like that one there's also like diversion where there's like the sex parties

Yeah, like fucking the weirdest sex shit you ever want to get into you'll find it there. I'm sure I went to one of those There's an orgy tent and there's like a part of the tent where you can join in and there's a part of the tent where it's just like hey you can join in and there's a part of the tent where it's just like, hey, you can watch us. And I always joke around, like the level of attractiveness between those two things is like something you've never witnessed in your entire life. The people joining us are suck. Man, it's rough.

And then the people who watch are like, okay, maybe there's some good stuff here. What you need is a few hot people to start and then the ugly people feel I don't belong. They're shamed away. Very little shame there. There's obviously tons of nudity, there's all these parties, but the idea is

if you're radically including everybody, nobody feels like there's a rope that they can't get into, a party that they're not cool enough for. There's no hierarchy in terms of cool. Like so often, we live in New York City, so it's like, oh, I can't get into that club. So there's a inferiority. I'm not even dressed the right way, no way.

I don't know anybody. When people feel included, in New York City, so it's like, oh, I can't get into that club. So there's a inferiority. I'm not even dressed the right way, no way. I don't know anybody. When people feel included, when people feel accepted, and when people are trying to give, like they're not trying to take from one another, which is constantly what we're trying to do, let me sell you something, let me get you,

how do I get, get, get, get, get? They're going, how can I give, give, give, give? And they're on drugs for a a week we can be really good to each other and you get this kind of high from it because you're like, the drugs definitely help, don't get me wrong, but you get this high because you're like wow, humans are really awesome and I felt really comfortable being really kind

and generous to people because they were so accepting and kind of my generosity and they wanted to actually give to me. So you can't buy shit there. You don't even trade. They're like, it's a barter system. It's not a barter system. You need a battery.

You walk to your next door neighbor and you go, hey man, do you have a battery? And he goes, yeah, sure. Take it. I'm sick. I have one. Yeah. And he can't wait to give you batteries. Because the joy is in the giving.

There's a person who, what they do is, they set up a fucking. This is how Steve Simone lives all the time. Who's that? He's this really nice comedian from LA. He's, it's all the time at the children's hospital, goes down there, organizes pizza parties. And he probably lives a way happier life than

everyone else. Yeah, it's just like, he gets something out of it. Yeah. So it's almost like selfish. We've talked about it. My dad battled depression, you know, he's battled his whole life, but and he's the most generous, giving person, like he just constantly is anytime anybody needs help,

he's there for them, gives them his attention. He was trying to give like citizenship when he started having dementia, like my mom had to like take his fucking debit card away because he would forget he was taking out money and giving it to the people in the neighborhood like the Fruit Stand guy or this like the fruit stand guy was gonna be a citizen because my dad was like yeah I'll help you he doesn't even know how to help but he's dementia. So, you know, he doesn't exactly anyway Give give give it's it can make you feel good. So someone who battles with feeling good realizes that

That's a way helpful tip. Anyway, it's it's very helpful. Anyway, it's a, you create that environment where you just are trying to give, you're not trying to take, and then they don't allow the taking, if you will, I'm not trying to bash capitalism, but the idea is I'm trying to sell you something. Hey, this yo- It changes everything, it ruins everything.

It's pretty great, it's awesome, and we love it. Literally ruins everything. This has been brought to you by Bluetooth. So. So. I mean, yeah, these podcasts, when we started, you just went straight through. God bless you.

You probably already stopped four times by now. So, it's just like, you're in this environment where, and there are dark sides to it too, don't get me wrong, like it starts Saturday. Black people you mean? Say again? Black people? I think I brought the first one.

I don't think I might be there. Okay, yeah, it's not many. It lacks diversity. Okay, I mean it's open. It is open, anybody can go and is accepted. And what I will say is that a lot of people are hesitant even the first time, not because they're scared, but there's a little part of them like,

am I tapping into this thing that like, they feel a little insecure, because they're scared, but there's a little part of them like, am I tapping into this thing that like, they feel a little insecure, like, they're encroaching on someone else's space. Ooh. You know? I had that feeling the first time. And what I realized after taking somebody is, the whole thing survives through the eyes

of the people that are experiencing it for the first time. And so you notice those people. Oh, so you're not upset like, Oh, here come the LA guys. No, you're like, do you remember like you remember what you thought when you walked out and you saw an entire city lit only by like those what's it called neon lights. Like you got to get some of the images up of like what it looks like. 80,000 people, they create streets, they have a grid,

and the grid works on alphabet and then time. So you live on a letter and then a time. So look at this. This is all perfectly organized. They bring- What the fuck? When I was gonna go, they were like, hey, you can get there later because you're friends with Duncan.

Yeah. But we're all getting there like 10 days earlier to set up. And I was like, oh, I'll go for that. That's awesome, too. I want to go set up. Some people would go. I want to see it being built. That's the purest form of it or whatever.

Like everybody has their own thing. Each one of these is a car down there. So each one of those tiny little things is a gigantic Winnebago. Wow. And then some people are just in tents. Some camps have a version of like tent and Winnebago. Go ahead, go ahead. No, it's okay. That's the center. That's the center.

You see that right there? Yeah. And like this guy. Yeah. What? And what's all this? That's the, what's called the Playa. So each one of those things that like, like those little markers, like that thing right there is an art installation. Oh my God. Some of the, and then in the middle, go to the middle thing right there is an art installation. Oh my God. And some of the, and then in the middle, go to the middle thing right there, that's the man and that man is gonna burn. And then there's another thing somewhere out there,

maybe it's the thing further back to your left. Go right, oh no, go back. So go, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, you're almost right there, you see that big thing over there? That's the temple. So that also burns. And then people will go to the temple and they'll like write a note to their

lost loved ones or someone who just put his picture of his dog up. Yeah. And that's really emotional. You're walking there. There's just people crying. And so that is this and that changes every year. It's someone else. Someone else sets it up. Somebody else sets it up with their own different. Exactly. With their own inspiration. And they burn that too they burn it all they burn it all and they have their own inspiration and it's this idea that I guess you know you're letting go of whatever that attachment is and then the man they burn I'll be honest the burn it I don't care for the burns to be honest I think it's kind of

like to me I'm like say againne? What does that mean? Steve Byrne? Oh, real Steve Byrne. What about him? Yeah, Byrne, not him. I already said it, I already said it, okay. No, no, to me it's like, I go there for the connectivity. Okay, but everyone does their own thing. Everyone gets their own thing out of it.

See, and that's the thing about it, why I say it's like, I tell people to hesitate to judge because it's like, if you let yourself explore, like if you just wanna see art, you'll see the coolest art that you can climb all over. There's no security. It's actually a really like, it's the best argument for like libertarians,

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biking in the sand, mind you. Wow. But there's no traffic signs. There's no stop sign. There's no anything. And nobody dies. Somebody died one year by running into the fire. Yeah. we either that year. Yeah, I think I was there I don't even like I don't remember it to be honest Like maybe I wasn't there that year, but like it wouldn't change it that much 80,000 people They were just maybe said there's a death. It's like well, yeah with 80,000 people How many people die Coachella how many people die all these other events where their security every five seconds?

They're looking through your bag and all this other shit? There's always like eight dads when you go there. Eight full on, like, forcible, whatever. But it's like, I don't know, there's a lot of people. So sometimes you'll see the state troopers and that kind of shit, like trucks that are on the Playa. Go back to that picture where you showed, that was really good, it was...

The whole thing? Yeah. Black Rock City, nope. What was it? Boom, this one. Yeah, so what happens is this, right? Damn, I mean it's beautiful too, with the mountains behind it.

In this, actually can I hold it? Yeah, absolutely. Bring me back to that. But, so you're surrounded by stunning mountains. I don't know if it's the Sierra Nevadas, I don't know what the fuck it is. Yeah, it's gorgeous in the back. It's unbelievable. Does anyone walk out that way of course my boy

But they tell you what they try to do is they tell you not to so Can they see what I'm doing with the mouse? Yeah, so like walking out this way. There's a airport It's a makeshift airport and all these planes come down from Alaska and they're the guys who like fly in Alaska down from Alaska, and they're the guys who like fly in Alaska, they come down and they'll land in the desert and they can take off in the desert because the winds are sometimes crazy, you have these sand storms, like you need like

legit badass pilots to do this kind of flying. So more bougie people, I've fucking done it, you can fly in and fly out. The journey of doing the whole thing, not the setup, what you were talking about, this is the whole thing. You get your Winnebago, you go to a Walmart, you stack up on food and alcohol.

We did our Walmart run in Utah. Yeah, let's talk about your experience too. Okay, so you get your car, your Winnebago, you probably have to get it down to Salt Lake City because they all get bought up in Reno, which is the closest big place. So you just gotta keep on going further and further and further and eventually Salt Lake, you can fly.

And you make a road trip out of it. You make a road trip. So you're there for it's like a- I tried to rent an RV here. Yeah. And then the guy was like, that just happens to be Bonnaroo weekend. And I'm like, I mean, I'm taking it there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not trying to hide it. We're gonna drive down and do gins along the way. They give you like a mileage thing. Yeah, like, all right. They try to jam you in this shit, it's so funny. Like the second you leave this place where everybody's just about giving,

and it's sweet and it's kind, and the second, like the Winnebago place, anywhere you rent it, you rent to Vegas, because it's Labor Day weekend, they go, you can't return on a Monday. So you just go, so you just leave it there with the key, and you go, I hope everybody gets it. And that's what we all do. Like, you leave it there with the key on a tire, and you go it. And that's what we all do. Like you leave it there with the key

on a tire and you go I hope that you got your Winnebago back. You're still in a good mood of like, nobody steals. So anyway, so this way you have the airport. There's also one street that's not a street. It's like just little flags that are put in the sand to direct you back to like the town okay the other direction if you go this direction over here yeah eventually you go enough out where they put a little like rope saying it's like skiing like don't go past here you're fucked it's basically like it's the middle of the

night it's pitch black you don't know we're going you're fucked. It's basically like, it's the middle of the night, it's pitch black, you don't know where it's going. The only thing that you see when you're on the Playa are these patches of neon lights moving, and that's another party that's somewhere random. Moving out left? Let me get you Burning Man at night. I'm gonna get some. Do you have any of your pictures?

Yeah, I'm gonna give you mine. We can plug those too, if you wanna plug your phone in. But yeah, yeah, exactly. Take over, bro. Yes! Producer Schultz said I hired someone. Got you, my boy. Okay, so.

Wow. So, this is an example. That's when the man is gonna burn. But let me, I wanna go for other little things. So like, look at this. Like this is, that's the temple. Everybody's. You're the guy with the bike. Everybody's bike is wrapped in these neon lights. Oh yeah, I remember that. that's, that's the temple. Everybody's got with the bike.

Everybody's bike is wrapped in these neon lights. Yeah. I remember that you had to get, but there's utility because at night in the pitch black, how could you ever locate your bicycle when you're walking around the desert? Which you put it down and then walk on and do some shit. Yeah. You just put it down and just walk on and do some shit, but you have to go back and fight and keep in mind, whatever you're doing in the Playa is moving so it's an art car with a huge DJ setup and then they drive away but

your bike was located near that art car now the art car isn't there you don't know where your bike is. And also it's a way to probably finding your own bike or it's like mine had the green and the blue. Everybody has the green and the blue right? Right. Exactly, sorry, sorry, sorry. So yeah, so you wrap these lights around your bike and now you can locate it, you know what it is. Some people put a huge thing sticking out,

so you know what it is, or you park it by the bathrooms or something like that, but there's utility to this stuff. It's not just I want my bike to look like an asshole. It's how do I find it in the middle of the night when I'm on drugs and I forgot where the fuck I put it? And then that string at the end of the property, you could go past it. Nobody's standing there telling you not to.

It's just a reminder, people back in the day used to just walk miles out into the desert because they were on fucking K or some shit like that. And it's their way of going, hey, you're at the end. You can keep going, but. There's the same skiing. Hey, we're not gonna come look for you if you go past here and there might be like drop-off cliffs

But we recommend but yeah, but like if you know somebody go for it Yeah So it's what's interesting is like when you leave people up to their own devices and they're responsible for their own fate We take shit really serious It's like everybody has like a thing of water that they take with them religiously and fill up religiously because you're like god forbid I'm stuck in the desert with no water at Coachellaella you're like, ah, somebody will be selling water. So you're doing, right, you're always going past a place you can get some water.

You know what I mean, like somebody, they wouldn't put us out here without protecting us from water, you know, but out there, you know you gotta stop at the end of a street because there's no stop sign, and somebody else might run into you. And there's no accidents, well there's not no accidents, but there's very few because people both are thinking the exact same thing. My safety is on me.

But hold on. But then you're adding- Radical self-reliance. But then you're adding drugs and alcohol to that. Yeah. Even with drugs and alcohol, think about that. So look at all these bikes. Look at those bikes. Yeah, go big on that. Each one of the bikes, right, is designed its own little thing. How could you find your bike here if it doesn't have a bike? No fucking way. And keep in mind- Zero chance. On ketamine? Forget it. No chance. Each one of the bikes, right, is designed its own little thing. How could you find your bike here if it doesn't have a bike?

No fucking way. And keep in mind, zero chance. On ketamine? Forget it. No chance. And when you put your bike there initially, there was 10 bikes. Two hours later, there's 10,000 bikes. Right.

How do you find it? I don't know if there's a spot. So. What do you do when you go there? Or we can also not say if you want. No. Yeah, I'm totally fine. What do you do and you go there like like my whole thing as in most things in my life is just like

Just connecting with friends, okay so like I'll have some friends that I really want to like share these experiences with and I find it like When they're in this state, they're in their most confident, their most comfortable, their most grateful, and I know me, like when I'm full emotionally, anything else, I just give back. That's like the beauty of Molly, right? It's like, if you were gonna say Molly's a good drug, it's pretty fuckin' awesome, but the idea is like,

nobody, I don't know nobody, but very few people do Molly and they're selfish. Right? Right, you do Molly and you're immediately like, okay How do you guys should all have some of this and I love you man. You're awesome for this reason I just really want to tell you that and I think that when you're around the people who care the most about in Environments where they feel really like care for love appreciated, but also it's like awful

Every day there is miserable. The weather is horrible. Does it go from freezing to burning up and like, and like, so like you have to stress for two different moments. You can't even be outside during the day. Like I don't know if I've been outside during the day ever. Like you just sleep all day and then like you can eat. You try to do drugs till sunup and then go to sleep. That's I've chased. I kind of tend to chase out there.

What do you mean? Meaning like I chase the party a little. And then when you see that sun come up and it's freezing, you got your fur coat on, but you're dancing and you got some alcohol in the system and all of a sudden that sun starts to peek over the mountains and you see it and everybody sees it and the music is peeking and it's this collaborative experience. Everybody's feeling that same thing the exact same time. And you know music has a weird way of like stretching out your drugs. and it's this collaborative experience. Everybody's feeling that same thing the exact same time.

And you know music has a weird way of like stretching out your drugs. Like no music, the drugs last an hour. Music, they're like three hours. Like something's going on, I don't know what it is. That's happening, it's peaking, the music is going crazy, and then you're like okay, let me get some food and then let me pass the fuck out.

There are some people that just keep it going. There are people there that don't sleep the whole week. It's insane. But- RV's so much different than tent. Sorry again? RV is so much different than tent. I don't think, people tent, I don't know how that's possible.

During the day it's 100 degrees. And it's miserable because the only way to keep it somewhat authentic is to make it impossible to get to and miserable while you're there. If it was nice, it would be Coachella. Yeah. It'd be too easy to get to. You need people to go, but you're covered in dirt.

You're covered, it protects it. Wolf told me about some hike to get to something. I don't know where, some national park, and it was like a two day hike. And then suddenly, and everybody got there a two day hike, and then suddenly, and everybody got there like congrats, you made it, and then the rich people started doing helicopters, and like now there's no joy to getting there.

What's the place in Peru? Machu Picchu. Machu Picchu. Isn't like a four day hike to get up there or something like that? Yeah, less than it. Yeah, and it's like you earned it. And someone else is here like, well you earned it. Yeah, there's a mutual respect and appreciation. Okay, hold on.

Usually I'll do this like, this is coming out this coming week, so I'll do it now. But usually I do this later. But hi everybody. Let me tell you about today's guest. It's Andrew Schultz. One of the premier comedians in the United States of America. Oh, we don't gotta do this.

I don't want to. And there by the world. He has just released a special called Life that is doing what I was hoping would be doing is throwing it in the face of the UK Edinburgh comics. It's a theme hour to let you know that we are number one. You are number two and the one thing you add a theme hour we have now taken it from you. That's right. Okay. Take that. Check out life. It's funny. The whole fucking way. Why do you gotta be serial for fucking 20 minutes

in the middle? There's no reason for it! Who said to be serious? Love it. And Andrew doesn't do that. Check it out right now on Netflix.com. I still think they drop ship stuff to you if you're looking for that, if you still have that plan

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like if I party for more than three days, I'm like my body just stops producing whatever is needed. So like even if I take Adderall, I'll be awake without the desire to have fun. This is where cocaine has incredible utility. It's festival coffee, they call it. I mean, and it is that, right? It's like, hey, whatever dopamine you got left

in your fucking head, I'm gonna find it and then keep this night going. It's a truffle pig. It is a truffle pig for the fun. Whereas Adderall's just like, yo, we'll keep you up, but we're not gonna guarantee this is gonna be enjoyable for you, you know? So, but I'll do Adderall drink

and then I'll do Molly a little bit. And the night that we did like, there's like a Tesla, you know that pill? Are you worried about fent at all? Fentanyl? Now that I have a kid, like I haven't done drugs since I had a kid. I haven't even smoked.

I haven't done anything since I have a kid. Like Adderall, but not like anything that like. Smoked, wow. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of crazy. But so this would be tricky because part of the experience there is having that peak moment where you're like, you're with your friends and the music you're hearing is the best music you've ever heard

and they think it's the best music you've ever heard and they think it's the best music they've ever heard and the people around you, you're so stoked that they can feel your energy and there's a guy next to you and he's like the music and you're just like, bro, this is amazing. It's in. Yeah, right, you're just like with somebody and they're just like, we're both going through this.

It's awesome. So now we're friends. We're friends and everything's great and you're great and it's amazing time. So Billy Strings concerts are. Shout out to Billy Strings. Everybody just goes, it's your first one? Oh my God, you gotta know this.

Okay, come, go stand there for the next song. And isn't that, it's a beautiful enthusiasm. Whereas there's a lot of places like, oh, you're here. Oh, where are you coming from? You're posing, exactly. This is not the energy. Now there are those people there. I remember that happened once.

Somebody said we were way out in deep pli and we were biking by some people that were sitting down. They were probably on LSD. They were looking at certain things. They have LSD tents or mushroom tents. They have a tree that like, let me show you. Okay, by the way, Andrew has no tour dates. No, I gotta take some time off.

Yeah, I love it. I fucking, for real, love it. You get tour dates. No, I gotta take some time off. Yeah, I love it I fucking for real love it. You get that. Yeah, I am finishing up my tour I'll be in Seattle Vancouver Calgary at Edmonton this week and then Anchorage all the storytelling shows are very nearly sold out in April But get tickets are a ship or comm and subscribe wherever you're watching and listening. All right. Oh, we're here. We're in deep Okay, you want to hear to see my first ever experience at Burning Man? Yeah. Okay, I think this is it. Should we do the accessory thing?

Did it ask? There it is, it's on. Okay, ready? Yeah. So, this is just, whoopsie. That's an art car? No, that's just a deer drill. So this is one of the first things I see.

I'm biking out onto Burning Man. Your first year. Yeah, and I'm like, what the, I just land. I'm like, what the hell is this place? I have no clue what's going on. OK. And then do we have audio on this? Let's try.

Let's try. So here is just a thing that someone made. Got him. Somebody just built this entire thing. Wow, it's a big fucking Retrolla? Yeah. So it's just, and there are hundreds of these things that people just decide to build. Here's this LSD tree thing.

So the tree's leaves are changing colors in different parts. Wow, that's perfect! Look at all these people underneath. That's perfect And the trees it's perfect for acid right so changing it's always just keeps changing that's fucking perfect So how do I make sure people don't uh text me do not disturb? Okay? Yeah. And then so here's like a version of what the man looks sideways. And then here's like, this is like, this would be a party during the day. Wait, hold that sideways for a second. Oh yes. Okay.

So look at all those people. Got a steam punk central. So that's Wow Is kind of like that's the vibe informing it for sure I would say that's like the most like almost common hacky I don't like all hacky but more common version of it basic so all the glasses and shit have rules who the fuck is that? And he's just some dude who brought his thing and he's like I'll play with it So they set this up. This is kind of wild so max they literally so these two guys just

You and I can do it We just decide to go do it and these things just bounce around and then I'm filming this from up on the cage There's a domed cage like my max exactly. Yeah, what? Oh my god. So oh My god, there's just like thousands of these little things and then like just just random people Passed out on so, you know, so there's like thousands of so that was the first. Oh, here's the end of the fence Is that you? Yeah. Wow. Oh, that's the Fed. So you really can't walk past it without knowing. You just, yeah, no, you can't. They'll just stop.

Who sets that up? The BlackRock committee, and they have all these people that contribute their time. Like they literally have a post office there. And then everybody who's there contributes in some way. So when you're part of a camp, you contribute to the camp in some way. So you either have to like, you know, help build a camp,

you're doing ice runs, you're monitoring certain things, you're cleaning out the porta-pies, you're... everybody's giving back to the thing. So some people are doctors and they'll donate their time to that. Some people are, you know, they work at the post office, some people just like manage the grounds, but every single person working there is not being paid and if they find out that people were paid to build the camp and then leave they kick the whole camp out. Because like're like, we don't do that. The whole point of this is everybody contributes

and tries to make it this great place. And we don't want the type of people who would just pay someone else to do it. Tim Ferriss used to, you know Tim Ferriss? Yeah. He used to go be a sober, like talk people down at festivals. This is that same tree. Wow.

So now they're doing like. Dude, the slow movement of color is so perfect for psychedelics. Yeah, just... So here's... What the fuck? So here's a little baby. That would freak me out if I was on drugs. So this is this big meetup. One of those burned down, but it's Robot Heart and Mayan Warrior, my boy. One of those burned down. Yeah. And then look, so the sun just came up. So this is what you're all stoked. You're all stoked. Yeah. You're like, we did it. We brought the sun. Exactly. So like here's again, this is sun coming up. This is probably my second time here,

but like look at his outfit. Okay. And then this is just like crazy shit. Like, look, somebody made an art car at Converse. So one really cool thing, I'm gonna see if I can get this video, is like when you're in the middle of the Plyatt night, not the Plyatt, yeah the other Plyatt night. Is that you with the hat? Where is it?

Yes. Let me see that, what are you saying here? Wow. And just dressed so fucking absurd, just dressed in the most absurd way possible. Hold on, I don't know what I'm saying there so I can't share that with you. It's probably so embarrassing I can't do that. You don't want to record yourself on drugs. That's the problem. You're like I'm not going

to stand by this when I'm sober. So like this is Alex like like like so that's even that Alex media from the pod. Wow. So there's the sunrise. So, oh, you took all your boys out there? Always. Yeah. Try to, whoever's down to go. Yeah. But like, look, somebody just makes this classic slide it's called, and then you just climb up and you can go on a slide, but somebody dedicated a portion of their year. Yeah. You can't just build that in an hour. You've got to set that up. Yeah. But look, this somebody built.

Look at this. Look at the size of that. These are, do you see what they are? They're carts from grocery stores. Wow, deconstructed? No, no, it's just put on top of each other and like stapled to one another. So there's Alex hanging off the top one.

Look how dangerous that is. Damn, Alex. But there's nobody that's gonna top one. Look how dangerous that is. Damn, Alex. But there's nobody that's going to tell you what to do or what you can't do. Like this I thought was kind of cool. There's people because the wind is crazy. They're like windsurfing. So now we're back to reality. Let me see if we get back there. Oh yeah, here we go. Like I'm trying to take you to. I love, I mean this is such an adult playground for drugs. You just see so much creativity. Like even if you're on them or not you're gonna see an insane amount of creativity. You ever been to look at this? Yes I have. It feels like

that sort of. This is less dark though like it's a little dark. Yeah like there's like a little like gangs come in it's bad. Exactly but like look at this somebody made an act took an actual boat They put it on wheels and that drives on the sand. That's what soul took in my opinion. How how how? Hard is the sand can you walk on or is it really like beach sand? So sometimes it's beach sand Sometimes you can walk on it when they had those crazy rains it turned into like mud so you couldn't do anything So like you know here no you never know what to expect you just never know what to expect. And it's just the idea is just roll with it whatever just roll with it. You have to rely on yourself so figure it out so like this thing doesn't look

that scary from that angle but like somebody just put these beams in the middle of the desert I wish I had a better picture of them oh yeah here it is here's one so they just put these beams in the middle of the desert. I wish I had a better picture of them. Oh, yeah here it is Here's one so they just put these beams in the middle of the desert It's so interesting like climb up and just this is a cool thing about art This right here. Yeah, isn't it close to as beautiful as some of the other pieces that somebody made It's just these two beams that are angled in such a way that gives you the confidence that you could walk up them But it's just high enough where you feel. If you fall, you're fucked. Yeah, and they were consumed by,

you would walk up, do I have the courage to do it? There'd be big lines to do it. And think about that, this simplest little thing was the most used. It's so temporary too. So it's not like this is the thing you do, this is the cliff we all dive off for generations. It's like, it's gone.

There's Mark. There's Mark in another little LSD situation Look at that overcoat and shorts. He's got the what's it called? There's Akash Akash came for one day He broke his ankle or something that within an hour of being there and then he left not his thing Look at Alex really gets in he leans in oh and you see this beautiful side of him like look at that shot That's sunrise from the top of the Winnebago my boy Ben who yeah, my boy, Jamil That's yeah, I mean just wow I don't know if people So yeah, so it's just this like what's that video you like down right there?

Middle almost left this you hold a guy Right there. Middle. Almost left. This one. You hold a guy. That one. Yeah. That one, I guess. Oh yeah. I was going to say that one, but the other one too. This one, you're having this is like this little day party, I think called district. Does your, so you've been going there 10 years. Well, I've gone four times. Over 10 years. Yeah. So 10 years ago, 10 years ago, 10 years ago you were not like you are now in terms of size of name.

Not at all, yeah. So you weren't using your celebrity in any way. No, no. My friends just were like, they had gone before, they were like, do you wanna go? And I'm like, yeah, and then I went, and I was like, wow, this is so cool.

And then I went the next year, and then I kept, I think I took a year off or something, then I went another year, and then we went another year. How is it now, now that you're big? Affected? No, like people recognize you, you know, but like you're also gonna see like, people will see Elon walking around,

or Diddy was at every single one, that's the kind of funny thing, like he loved Burning Man. So like, there's other, I saw Dwight Howard there. Like you'll see all these people and nobody's like making awkward You might just like hang out like it's great people say what's up? They give you a hug Everybody's feeling really confident so they're not acting like weird and sheepish around you You know, they're they're feeling pretty good. Oh, right. And also you're like minded. Yeah, you're doing the same exact unique thing What Wow Yeah. You're doing the same exact unique thing. Look at this. What? Wow.

He just, look at that base. Just vibing on the wow. Literally feeling the music. Yup. Anyway, so that's the idea. And how much, how much does it cost? Like an average person to get it ready and go there's expensive way and there's cheap way So like the tickets I think there's tickets. Oh, yeah, there's tickets and you can't resell them, right? They try to find ways to not do it and literally their idea. I supposed to give it to someone That's what that's what you should do, but then give my money back because I'm out but no more Yeah, I think that's the right thing to do

But then some people they're trying to cut down the secondhand market because they just get expensive. But the beautiful thing, yeah, it's like, let's say it's 600 bucks or 400 bucks, I don't know what it is. But it's like, you're there for eight days. So it's actually kind of a bargain for eight days of the best DJs in the world. Like, you know what I mean? That you can go and be front row to everyone if you want, because there's no seats. And then the cost of like, the Winnebago's the cost of the Winnebago. You don't have to Winnebago.

You could tent. You could tent. You know what I mean? You gotta get a swamp cooler or something. Yeah, what I'm saying is there's cheap ways to do it, and price is an inhibiting factor in that like it's hard for people to take a week off of work. Sure.

It's hard for people to fly to the closest place. But there's guys who are like, that's my vacation every year. Yeah. And I get two weeks in America, worst country in the world for vacations, and then I'm taking it for that. And they go there and they get after it. And they're like, I want to make it, for me it's like, I want to make it as enjoyable as possible in that I want to be comfortable so that I can absorb as much of the time that I can. So I would rather spend more money on the

Winnebago. I'd rather have the AC running. Like, non-stop. Yeah, I want to like sleep as good as I can so that every waking moment I'm enjoying the time with my friends. Yeah. It's not like a soul-searching thing for me. Some people really go there to find themselves. Yeah. It's not like a soul searching thing for me. Some people really go there to find themselves. It's not as internal for me. It's more of a connective thing. That's what you do with mushrooms.

It's medicine, it's medicine. Like, sure, sure, sure. I'm trying to watch the killers on it. I quit it with the medicine all the time. I don't wanna go too inside all the time. Sometimes it's not that fun. Whereas I get great joy from... It looks like hanging with your boys.

That's all it is. We have nothing to do here. And it's like what is... I really feel like people create their best stuff when they feel confident. I think the best version of themselves. There are people that have like... Go, go.

You see a guy, Marcelo's a good example. I had this, version of themselves. There are people that have like go go you see a guy Marcelo's good example I had this I booked my first commercial The next day my sets were better, but I didn't write new stuff Marcelo when he booked SNL just jumps got funny on confidence and the ability like they're not gonna get mad at me Yeah, I'm good. I know I'm good just that that you see it in people. Yeah, and then you're right That's just your natural natural self. Well, if I'm confident like hey, how see it in people. And then you're right, that's just your natural self. If I'm confident, I'm like, hey, how you doing?

You're new here, right? Bro, this is crazy. The first time I did it, and again, this could be placebo. You know how when we're feeling good about ourselves, everything else feels better? Because we're less tuned into the negative. When I'm feeling bad about myself, right?

Tuned into the negative. I'm tuned into, let's say you, I'm talking and then you yawn. I'll be like, oh, is he bored? If I'm feeling good and then you yawn, I'll be like, bro, you tired, bro? You're not getting a lot of sleep? Right. You know? So it could be that. It could be like when you're positive, you just attract all these other positive things. When you're negative, you attract the negative. Sure.

But I'll tell you one thing. The first time I went, I only went for like three or four days, I came back. And this sounds so like mumbo jumbo, it's so dumb, I can't even believe I'm gonna say this. But I like understood how to talk to my mom better. Like every conversation I had with people, I understood what they wanted, not what they were saying, but what they wanted out of that interaction. What are they doing? How do I feel about it? Yeah, I was so much more generous.

What drugs did you do that time? I just did Molly. But the experience has to be an experiential drug. It filled me up in a way where even when I came back, when I was talking to my mom, I was like, oh, my mom is anxious, and she really wants my love. And she just really wants me to listen to her. And sometimes the thing that she says, there's things that she's saying, don't reflect what she actually wants. So then when talking her, I was really

just kind of leaning into her and giving her that love. And it really calmed her down. And then I would have talks with friends and I'd be like, Oh, wow, like like they really need someone to listen to them right now Okay, I'm just gonna instead of trying to like extract something from them in every moment. I'm like, oh shit What do they want? What do they actually want? What do they mean right now? And how can I? When I say I'm thirsty, I don't want you to get me water. I want you to say I too have been dry mouthed this to say I too have been dry mouthed this. I too have. I'm a bit thirsty.

That wasn't a good joke? Yeah. That's good. That's good. That's good. But yeah, so I know that sounds stupid and I'm sure it's not like, I'm sure it's not a drug I took or whatever,

but I'm sure it is like. Opening yourself up to the possibilities of really being like present, probably that for three to four days straight of like, oh, I'm in this now. And everybody for that long was really nice to me, welcoming to me, kind to me. Like, no one made me feel insecure

or that they were trying to take advantage of me. Like, think about it, I grew up in New York City. So then you just chill. You just calm yourself because no one is trying, right, New York City, I get what you're about to say. My whole life, every single time I left my apartment, there's somebody trying to take advantage of me Yeah, there's somebody going. Hey

You know, do you want to sign up for this thing to help green beat it? No, hey, you want to buy these candies? No, that's not what you want to do. Shut up Somebody outside 10% discount on the second. I leave my house. It's people trying to take advantage of me No, and they're not bad people. That's their job, but they are trying to fish. They're trying to take advantage of me. And they're not bad people, that's their job. But they are trying to fish, they're trying to extract. So I'm on defense constantly. And then for three days I go to this place where people are only trying to give me shit.

They're just trying to give me a hot dog, give me a sandwich. They built a diner on wheels that's in the middle of the playa that makes coffee in the diner mugs. It has the stools wrapped around it and they make pancakes. And I'm eating pancakes with a cup of hot coffee. The sun is rising. There's syrup on them.

I'm like, holy shit, thank you so much. And you don't want any money from me? You don't want anything? Why would you do this for me? It makes no sense to a cashmere. When you don't want anything from me. I didn't know that that was possible. Like I always thought I was a good person I want to give back but I didn't realize the true power of pure benevolence. Manhattan or another

borough? Manhattan. I grew up a few blocks from here so the second I walk out that there's a guy with a flyer trying to get me to sign up for some shit he don't even really give a fuck about. Right. Yeah. Every day you have trouble after this re integrating No, it was the best reintegration. Matter of fact, it's so you're so exhausted and depleted and the second you get back to like regular society, you get a jolt of energy. Because you're like, Oh, I could shower like every aspect of it feels good. You're like, you get a jolt of energy. Cause you're like, ooh, I could shower.

Like every aspect of it feels good. You're like, I get to be clean again. Oh, that was the best shower I've ever had my entire life. Like, oh, I'm totally clean. I smell good. Oh, the taste of this. I didn't have a burger for a while. The taste of that is so good.

Like every part of it is fantastic. But the transformational part was my whole life being in a place where people are trying to extract and more so even with career, like I want, want, want. What else can I get? I'm very ambitious, how can I get? It plagues our whole industry of like, all right, but what are we hanging, guys?

I mean, listen, one of the, I think, unbelievable things about Joe is the benevolence, bro. And I think that he's pushed that on all of us. Like, the importance, you do it really well. I don't know if there's anybody that's like as supportive of other people for no gain on your own at all than you and it's just like that shit is one addictive like pretty great out it too I try everybody I help with YouTube especially like how'd you learn this Mike Andrew told me about it he told me tell the rest of everybody but it's like and I and

And then we're all better off with everybody. That's the selfish part, but we're not even doing it to be selfish It's just like I care about you. I want once you realize it also feels it feels better Helping people. Yeah, and it's counterintuitive because you're like I got to compete to get the thing I want That's what they tell us. It's not like that anymore Like we can all eat. But when we were coming up, the younger comics don't know this as much, but when we were coming up, it was,

there's gonna be eight people that get half hours this year. Are we gonna be one of the eight? And if we weren't, it was like, well, they didn't deserve it, da da da. Now it's... What helped me with that is who's gonna get passed to the comic store, and I would get mad. I'd start to get mad at my friends for getting it.

And then I realized it wasn't them or me because some weeks she passed four people and some weeks she passed none. It just wasn't me. And so then it's like, well good for you for getting in. You're a smart, mature person. But a lot of people don't. Took a while.

Yeah, well, a lot of people don't even get there. Especially in our field, there's a lot of like, these are really competitive people and also insecure people in our field. You see people going off publicly it's a new hackiest thing and you want to be like bro what are they doing? They're not stealing from anybody. I'm sorry they're not as good as you want them to be. We had it buttoned up for like a five-year run. There was like a five or six year run and I think it was... Support or be quiet. And I think was literally like when when you went on Rogan you became famous And it was like it was a five or six year run where everybody was on such good behavior

Whether they agreed with the benevolence and they want to support it Like I hope we feel or whether they were like I want to be on good behavior and not piss these people off because then I Won't get it, but it didn't matter it worked By the way, it's spread there. And people were supportive, and if you weren't supportive, you would look like a loser. Like, who the fuck is this asshole? Hey, we're all being cool here, man. We're all being cool here.

What are you doing? You just gonna shit on people? Like, what do you offer by shitting on people? And you could feel it creeping back. Yeah. And I think it usually comes from. What is that? No hope, comes from no hope.

It's some successful people who have hope their success is determined by Unfortunately for the bottomless pit people where they are Where they want to be where someone else's right, right? It's comparison There are people that can sell out arenas, but if somebody is doing too that's the only thing they can focus on and it's like and it's so sad because it's like whatever regardless of what you believe in it's like I know people in the top 10 top 20 earners list who

are pissed about their position on I'm like you're in the top 20 or you're it's the over 1 million dollars a year and you're mad at your placement not even I want more money your money's fine you want them to be just below you. What? No, no, no, actually that's the most important thing. They don't want more money. They just want that other person to be making less. So if it's them make more, great.

If they make less, also great. It's pure bottomless pit. We gotta, guys, chill. Dude, but that's, and then it gets rewarded because negativity is obviously rewarded on the internet because we all have these the fear is what moves things in society like whatever we fear we see and But it is a problem man and Rogan's great at that though though all the everyone's like he's right wing

He does this he does that but at the same time like he puts on open micers He literally props up The lowest of us. People aren't paying rent. And he goes, no, I gotta have them on. Oliver Stone, you can't come on this week because I'm full with this open mic'er I just saw who did something funny.

I just mentioned Derek on the podcast. Gaines? Yeah, no, not Gaines. Poston. Okay. So I mentioned Derek Poston. He opens for me. I think you know him from LA, obviously, yeah.

More from Austin now, but yeah, I know him from LA. Or Austin too, but yeah. So, and I mentioned him and I mentioned how he had a, he just shot a Don't Tell comedy special. And I was like, yeah he's coming, I mentioned it on Rogan because I'm talking about how he's been killing on the road with us. And he's like, oh when is it coming out?

All right, I gotta have him on. It's crazy, Adrian's like, can I have, it's like, when is it coming out? Okay, I'll get you the day before it'll come out the day. He already knows, like, all right, I gotta have them on. It's crazy. Adrian's like, when is it coming out? Okay, I'll get you the day before it'll come out the day. He already knows, well, I gotta do that. It's amazing. Because it's a special. So that's the biggest thing in a three to five year period for a comic. Yeah. And listen, don't get me wrong, it is incredible that he's able to do it. And there's

a thing, it's like, I wish that every single comic that was like, hey, can I come on Flagrant? I wish I could have that. But that's the problem too. But yeah, I mean the problem is just like, all right, well, unfortunately. It's limited. There's one episode we do a week. Yeah.

And then, yeah, unfortunately that's the case. But listen, maybe I would be pushing more benevolence if I did just make it this avenue for comics to get some exposure for their specials coming out, maybe that would work better. Maybe it would fill my soul more, I don't know. But I also have to be like, okay, well, are there other people that I committed to talking to?

So now we have four or five specials a week, and you're like, oh, I literally can't do all of them. I guess I'm trying to call myself out a little bit for saying this one thing, and maybe not doing it to the perfect extent, but it is a little bit different in that regard. But I rack my brain about like, okay, well, what can I do even if I can't have them on?

Maybe I can post form. Maybe I can. Exactly, like there are other avenues of help and I try to be as kind as I can and help as many people as I can with whatever. But it is something that I've kind of noticed is like that like bitterness that existed in the 90s That creeping it's it's it's not creep. It's

So many of them are doing it, but it comes from in my opinion. It comes from just a lack of it's There's two versions. There's like bottomless pit people who are just always gonna be bottomless pits even during the fire That's that's their happy place actually maybe yeah, but like there's nothing you do about it but the other version I think is like where it just doesn't feel like there's hope when that's their happy place actually. Maybe, but there's nothing you can do about it. But the other version I think is where it just doesn't feel like there's hope. When there's hope, and I think that was the excitement with the early YouTube version, the early clips, and then obviously Rogan. I think for young comics, I imagine the only way they think

that you could pop off right now is if you get that kill Tony. Well I was talking to Nate about this. And he goes, we used to have something to aim for. Letterman, Leno, and we'd aim for it tonight. So that actually mattered. People listening at home aren't gonna understand this. It mattered and it really helped.

And then that kind of went away and Nate's like, I wanna create an avenue where even if you don't get it, you can aim for this. My old storytelling show was like something I could aim for to like, and then if you fall short, you're still ahead. But there's a thing you're going, yeah, I've been thinking about this, like specifically with also, it's great that Nate's thinking about that, like, even to just think about younger people and wanting them to succeed. I was thinking about

this, like with New York specifically, I'm like, what is the thing that a young comic here can do to get on? Like there used to be, okay, maybe I'll work on one of the late night shows, like, what is the thing that a young comic here can do to get on? Like there used to be, okay, maybe I'll work on one of the late night shows. Like that's kinda not really the pathway anymore. You're not, they're not really filming TV shows left and right like that. Podcasts where there's so many, it's not standoutable anymore.

And it's, podcasting is no longer the thing where like you do one episode, you're a famous person. That's done. That's done. And so there's this part of me, it's like same kind of thing with me, it's like I wanna create a property, like I love that Kill Tony gives so much hope to comics,

like they're like, if I get on that, people are gonna see it, maybe I become a regular, and then I can tour. You know what I was thinking? I wanna create something for New York specifically, where comics here go, oh shit, I can get better with the best comics in the world, because there's no question the best are right here.

And I also have hope that I can build my career here. Because it's not just clips anymore. And I see comics and they're like, but I gotta do crowd work. First of all, you don't have to do anything. You don't have to do anything. If it's for you, it's for you. If it's not, I talked to comics about this.

Like, I don't do it, like then don't. Don't do it. But your thing will come around. Do something. This is the thing where it's just like, there's a little bit of this that's coming with the bitterness There's a little bit of this culture of like trying as gay That's Shane's whole that's whole that's his whole aesthetic, but he trying his gay first of all I don't agree with that because he makes really amazing shit. No, but he goes I won't use good lighting

I won't trying his gay is his aesthetic Well, I don't feel like that. I won't, trying is gay is his aesthetic. Well, I don't wanna feel like that's a shot at Shane because I think that he does amazing. No, he's promoting that. He goes, this is gonna be bad lighting. We're gonna have awful. You're saying for the podcast. For all of it is trying is gay.

But the sketches are phenomenal. Yeah, sure. The standup is phenomenal. Yeah, but that's his aesthetic. He betrays that aesthetic sometimes, but that's his aesthetic he set up, where it's like, we're just chilling, we're just hanging out.

I'd have to, my- That's why he never built a big studio like that. But my suspicion is with that is that like- He's lying. No, I actually think it's like, my suspicion is I don't want this to get too big, the podcast. I'll put tons of effort into the things

that I want to be accused and explosive, but the podcast is dangerous. Like imagine, look at what he went through initially with a podcast. One clip could have cost him a thing that he always wanted. Thank God it did not. Podcasts, as much as we say what we want about it, it's like we're throwing around lumps of clay

and they exist on the internet forever. Anytime I get in trouble for some shit, they don't go to my standup. They go to podcasts. They go to the podcasts where I'm loose with my friends and saying the most wild shit and then you get two hours of justification for whatever you thought for the last 10 years every single week.

So I wonder if, and I'd have to ask about this, but I wonder if the thinking is essentially, I don't want that thing to get too huge because that's the thing that's going to make me vulnerable. Whereas if I just had let the focus be on the art, the stand up or the sketches or the films, that's such a distilled, whittled down idea. Yeah, that's less vulnerable. thoughts on that? Maybe? Yeah, maybe. But I do think that like,

looking at that and going to aesthetic style It's they doesn't mean trying games like don't act like you're trying and like look at what I've done all this prep work even like Roasts like little ones will be like I didn't I didn't prepare for this and so yes, we did. Yes, we did You're lying because trying is gay. We all try Yeah, no, I think well that I fundamentally disagree with that and I've been part I've done tires like what they do is like phenomenal. Yeah. And it's and it's like yeah I can't imagine that he doesn't on some level really want to try and want things to work out. You can't be great and not want and I know he does it's just the aesthetic. Well we got to get

away from that because I think that like I think that there are young comics or young creatives need to know that you have to try. It doesn't mean- That a shitload of work went into you riffing. Yes, and it doesn't need to be fake. Like you don't need to put on somebody else's identity or do something else, but effort is good. I've always thought of like some way to do it.

I was never quite big enough of like a young comedian special. Of just like, hey, here's some people I think are funny. They keep trying to do it, and even with Chappelle backing them, it doesn't mean anything. Yeah, yeah. I think it's more like getting comedians to blow up in the spaces for them.

A young comedian, like for example. Right, right, 50,000 YouTube views for somebody new is humongous. Bro, I was telling this to Derek, he was like, cause you know, he's on the road with us, posted and like, he's crushing on the road. And he's like, dude, you know, we film the shows and he's like, do you mind if I put some clips out?

I go, of course, dude, put whatever you want. I go, see, I was gonna put something out from the garden. I go dude. You could do it ever you want. That's your footage but if I'm somebody That's finding a new comic online. I Kind of want to find them in a shitty little comedy club Yeah, that's the cool thing about the clips and whatever is like the single camera at the cellar or New York is actually goes better It's like an indie band. You've found it. It's like no this better be on this level, but a riff and whatever is like the single camera at the cellar or New York is actually goes better. It's like an indie band.

You've found them. Because if you've prepared it, it's like, no, this better be on this level. But a riff should be, when you film that too well, to me it's like, oh, you had a lot of takes of this. It doesn't work. It only works in the moment. Hey, shut up, man.

Oh, well look at you. Like, then it's okay. I'm not even talking about like crowd work. I'm talking about like literally a bit. Like if you're a comedian, I've never seen before. And I see you. Yeah, you I feel like you found them. That's not bad. And then and I go, oh my god This guy's hilarious. Who is he if I see you at the garden? I start going How do I not know this guy? Who is this guy? And you're not part of when I walk by In in my neighborhood late at night and it's this crazy cool

Sandwich place this guy's an artist. He makes like kimchi, roast beef, and cantaloupe. Stuff you would never expect. It was so good. And I found it. I found it. And then I told Big J about it. He goes, oh. And then he checked it out and yelled.

He goes, oh yeah, 11,000 reviews. And I'm like, okay. But I found it. You know? So I have more ownership over it. It's my spot. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I was telling

It was like so for me if I was like wanting a young comic to pop Like I definitely think using social media at least to get that initial attention But specifically not having to be too refined knowing that if you're a comic that nobody's seen before Yeah, the expectation is that you're in a club. Also personally, glossy is too smooth. It's not quite what I'm looking for. It's a jazzy art, it's a jazzy industry. I think for us, there's a higher expectation. I think for us, like I remember I saw

like an uncolored treated version of your special. And I remember the first thing I said is like, you make sure you pop out from that background. And it's because you spent, I don't know how much money you spent, but time developing what that looked like. No, it was cool. And it was, you never even imagine it. Like that's low key some burning that shit.

It's just like. Yeah, it's just for the people. It's just. Enjoy. Exactly, it doesn't help the funny. It just helps you. You wanted to make something look significantly different and unique and you did it with Jew to make something look significantly different and unique.

And like, you did it with Jew too, with all the candles. Like, anyway. I went from making some money to losing money. Boom. Just because I'm like, this should look cool for you guys. Because it looks cool, that's the most pure version. You're not trying, whatever. But anyway, I like that.

But I was like, I want you to make sure that you pop out so that the person consuming it is still gonna like it. You got a higher expectation now, especially after how good you looked. Thank you, yeah, yes, exactly. Like people are going. Well that's what I told Abrams, he was like, what do you wanna do with this?

I'm like, well, eyes are on us now. So we either gotta beat it or fucking go blank white background. Yeah, or yeah, do the opposite, go, you're the void. Nothing, yeah. Yeah. And yeah, so let's think. So how do we get back to?

Giving is what you're trying to do. Giving. Is be supportive of comics. Also give, and we need to create some more opportunities for them in New York. We gotta figure that out. That's something I really wanna put time into. How do we create a launching pad?

I'm 100% down. Let's do something. I'm always thinking about it. Yeah. And then it's like it's tough how do you get how do you get people to love something they don't know yet a discussion anywhere yeah of that these aren't so easily the best comics in the world yeah it is like retarded yeah It's every set at New York Comedy Club. This isn't like the most notable one or second. It's like every set I go, every other set, I'm like waiting to go on. You're like they got

the lighter like all right I'll check out those last three minutes and then I'm like this who the fuck is this? Who the fuck is this? Yeah. He's killing. Yeah. Yeah. They're making it hard for you and it's like not you don't even have tricks to be able to follow Okay, you know those tricks, you know if I follow you every time I know a line I can get them on my side Yeah, and I'm like I'm flying blind every time. Yeah. Yeah, and there's a 200 of those here But there should be an opportunity for this should be and they should They should be doing well. We're not they're not failing, but it's nice to be able to pay rent. They don't think, this is my estimation,

whenever I see bitterness, I assume it comes from lack of hope, like lack of potential opportunity. I don't wanna name certain people that people were upset about, but I saw some people being upset about somebody's success. And I was asking around, I was asking Mark Gagnon and some of the other guys, and I was like, are you hearing this?

They're like, yeah, a lot. And I'm like, my knee-jerk reaction was more, oh, fuck, we need to find something where these guys can come up in here. Because when they see someone else get success and they start being upset at it, it's because they don't feel like there's an avenue. And not everybody is gonna go shoot their own thing or clip.

Yeah, and when you're way bigger, you don't care if somebody gets passed at the cellar. When you've done Madison Square Garden, you lose that like, what, they're in it? It's like, oh, good for you, man. The weirdest thing about this is the people that treat you shit on the way up in comedy, the second you pass them, you have no animosity towards them at all.

It's crazy how that goes away. Some low level hurdle. Yeah. And they were dealing with their fucking shit. That's the thing too. When you look back at like Comedy Central, never booking me or whatever, you're like, Oh, well I kind of, I kind of sucked. Yeah.

It's like, or it's like you just, you had a job, you didn't want to lose it. Like I might've given you like a 2% chance more of losing it. It's like, why take that? It's not like there weren't other funny people. It's not like I was the only funny person or you were the only funny and then all the venues that cancelled us or cancelled shows It's like oh, you just don't want angry backlash. You're not even weighing in. Yeah. Yeah, you don't really just like I don't want this heat. I don't want to yeah It's like you have a nice place in the Hamptons that you want to go vacation in and you're like

Do you want to deal with the stress over the weekend? No now does that suck because you take on that responsibility when you take that you want to go vacation in and you're like do you want to deal with the stress over the weekend? No. Now does that suck because you take on that responsibility when you take that job? No, I'm had to do this. He was like, for one of mine, he was like I just got done with this with Louie. Yeah. He's like can you just take some time off? And I'm like no man I literally can't. I gotta get back up. And he's like fuck they're gonna come after my fucking business again. Alright I'll put you on this week. But he does it. He does it. But he does it. I I admire that he most people would not have done what he did with Louie Yeah, and I go I go I get it man

I'm not part of this how many seller family the way I'm at the stand. He goes no no no no Everybody's in the family. That's wrong He's fucking honorable. Yeah, no. I'm as an honorable man and principled Principled about it. Yeah, yeah, because now you have to. Most people would just go, let me take the easy way out. The business has never been bigger. There's never been more eyeballs.

And he's like, no, we're gonna keep fucking doing it. Because of Louis. Well, that was part of it. He's like, obviously he's a man, so he's like, guy, help me get here. He is so much gratitude. We were giving away four free tickets to any show before. Yep, yep.

Oh, we're just gonna turn my back on that. Fuck off. 100% but it sends a message. Yeah. Let me go over these. Yeah. Radical inclusion. These are the ten principles of Burning Man. Anyone may be a part of Burning Man. Okay so that's what you're saying. Yep. We welcome, respect the stranger. No prerequisites exist for participation in our community. So like whoever's in, even blacks. Gifting. You know, my friend told me, you know, you know, Baldinger, Brian, Baldinger, he goes, when I was going to go, he goes, my only advice is the only word in your head should be yes. Yeah. Anyone offers you anything. Anyone says you want to do anything. just don't even just uh-huh. Yeah and then it might be scary, it might

be easy, you want a banana? Sure. You want this powder? I don't know what it is, I found it, sure. Yeah. I get scared with the drugs because people will offer you some shit, but taking that route that's another way to explore it. Like this is another thing about Burning Man, there's 80,000 people there, right? So imagine how many little camps there are. You'll never be able to go to every single one. There's this part of me that's like, maybe it's some like manifest destiny explorer shit,

but like every time I go, I gotta go to the fence that I was telling you about. And I have to go over it. It's so weird. I have to, it's like, I, you ever go to like the Mall of America and you're like I want to walk this whole fucking thing Like there's just something about it where like I need to experience Kill myself

Walk around Built it and was like this is a testimony of how great America is. And now it's like, it's so, malls blow. It's dying. So anyway, I just want to explore, I want to do all of it. And then after going a few times, I realized like, no, no, no,

just think of a thing that you want to focus on. Do you want to see the sunrise this time? Okay, do you want to just do the day? Why don't I just do the day one time? Why don't I just be sober one time, see what that's like? Why don't I just do the day one time? Why don't I just be sober one time, see what that's like? Why don't I just enjoy the art? Like, there's so many different ways to do it, it can become redundant if you're just partying

every single time. So how do you find, I once sat in on a conversation about the Supreme Court justices and how that they were completely politicized, even though they're supposed to be like the most thoughtful lawyers in the country. Interesting. They still voted based on party lines.

This was years ago, and I see this conversation happening tons in the last couple years because of all the justices that were appointed, and I was like, oh wow, that's interesting. Some fucking person on mushrooms is explaining this to me in the desert like seven years ago. Like, yeah, anyway. Anyway, so the other things.

Gifting? Yeah, Burning Man is devoted to acts of gifting. The value of a gift is unconditional. Wow, yeah. Gifting does not contemplate a return or an exchange for something of equal value. Yeah, when I heard it, it was like, no, you give them something, they give you something,

but really, no, you give something, someone will give you something, but that's not why you're doing it. And they might you give them something they give you something but really no It's you get something of someone will give you something but that's not why you're doing and they might not they might Someone else might give you so it might be like not even here. You're just doing it because you want to do it This is interesting right here Decommodification Order to preserve the spirit of gifting our community seeks to create social environments that are unmediated by commercial sponsorships transactions or advertising. Nice I love that we stand ready to protect our culture from such expectations. Wow we resist the substitution of consumption for participatory experience. So for

example we did a Burning Man episode on Flinger. Okay. And we put no ads on it. Wow. Because we can't possibly talk about that experience. And make money off it. We can't commodify it. So a lot, sometimes people go there, this is pretty shitty, like they'll take these pictures doing Pilates or yoga in the Playa,

and it's the most stunning thing you've ever seen, and then they'll use it for their like yoga websites for their business. And that's what they're saying. No, no, they're saying you can't do that like because you're commodifying this experience so yeah perfect example but anyway okay radical self-reliance radical self-reliance okay so that's like get everything bring everything in and also you don't leave trash there right you cannot even leave they say don't even leave spit. So every bit, it's called moop, I think.

So every bit of, the ply is returned exactly to the state it was before. It's unbelievable there. No trash. Not even no trash. You can put water in if it hasn't been in your mouth. But if you brush your teeth, you can't spit on the ground. Now, no one's going to tell you not to. You're not going to get fined. I'll be honest, I pee you can't spit on the ground. Now, no one's gonna tell you not to. You're not gonna get fined.

I'll be honest, I pee on the fucking ply all the time. It's fucked up, but you shouldn't do it, but people do it, okay? Do or fail. Yeah, that, I was like, it's just soak in. But the idea is you're peeing. We wanna respect the land, and you can't respect the land by just throwing whatever you want on it.

So. Didn't they have a thing where they wanted to put the city or the state needed to put trash cans in? You're like, no, we can't put trash cans in because that goes against what we're doing because then they'll be. People will just throw their shit out there. They'll think they could bring trash but if you go out there going, I have to take everything back with me. Yeah. You're not gonna take plastic cups. You're gonna

take this little tin cup. So everybody got a backpack. There's a little tin cup that you'll have on you so that when you go to a bar or like a party, they'll pour a drink into that. Don't they have the fold out bowls too? Bowls and plates so you can like just pop it out. Like here you have chili, I'd like some and then pop it back out.

100%. Yeah, Baldinger's tights, they bring a spork and a fold out. Huge, yeah. And this camel back, so you have like a few liters of water in your backpack at all points in time, you can fill it up somewhere, you end up some random camp. Steampunk and a camelback.

Kind of wild. Doesn't go together. Yeah. Yeah. People are very responsible. It's interesting, like the amount of intensity you put into making sure you have enough water. I would never do this anywhere else.

Or do we have enough water. Do we have enough water? Do we have enough water? But you- Do you ever do the rub down tent, or not rub down tent, the Dr. Bronner's? What's that? Where they wash you? Oh no, but I've had some friends that did it.

Do you ever fuck in this? Do you ever fuck a random? Yeah, yeah. It's not very sexual though, I'll be honest with you. Like I think there are parties where that is more the vibe. Yeah. And you definitely can't meet people, but like you haven't really showered well.

You're dusty. Like yeah, maybe you're like feeling good from drugs, but the feeling, I don't know if it's like horny. It's more just like euphoria from just being around your friends. But the first time I went there, I was like, oh, I'm supposed to fuck. And then I went another time and I was like oh yeah let's do it like that's

Molly everyone sees and are you all horny like no I just want to touch yeah it's not about so it's more about that yeah radical self-expression yeah that's all the art pieces yeah damn communal effort oh wait a radical a radical self-instruction is almost like an extension of the gifting. Yeah. Arise from the unique gifts of the individual. No one other than individual or collaborating group can determine its content.

No one other than individual or collaborating group can determine its content. It is offered as a gift to others in this spirit. The giver should respect the rights and liberties of the recipient. Yes I've started doing this and people ask me about my special. I'm like, it's out of my hands now What do you get from it? It's it's not up to me anymore what I meant Communal efforts That's just everyone joins in. Yeah, okay, and then civic responsibility

Don't steal don't like punch push people. I imagine and then leave no trace. That's the thing we're talking about trace. Yeah Anticipation our community is committed to a radical participatory ethic. Yeah, that's the say yes, right? That transformative change whether the individual or in society can occur only through the medium of deeply personal participation We achieve being through doing we achieve Being through doings am I saying that right we achieve being there you're doing Everyone is invited to work. Everyone is invited to play we make the world Real through actions that open the heart.

Damn. And then immediacy, immediate experience. I don't even know what that one is. In many ways, the most important touchstone of value in our culture. Our culture, damn, this is so interesting. Like they've created their own little utopia that exists for a week when everybody has drugs

in their system. But it is really cool. How do you get in and out? And then, and then I want to know about two other things, but drive in, drive out, like a mob scene getting in, oh dude, on the way. And if you're going like at the beginning, there's a line for hours and the line you could see snaking through the mountains on the way to the desert, through the town, and you just get a little bit more excited every inch can you get out

and just walk around and talk to people? Yeah, they do that. Because you're all stuck in traffic, right? And then somebody does a sweep of your Winnebago and it's adorable. What do you mean? We're just making sure you don't have anything in here. Yeah.

So. It's not a festival, they're like, no glass, so push it back, man, push it farther away. I think they're not even doing it for drugs, they're actually doing it to make sure that you're not sneaking individuals in. That's what I assume it is. Meaning like,

cause each person pays for a ticket. So if you just had to pay for one, you like have 10 people going. And then, but you just build up all this excitement and then your first time you have to do like a Playa Angel. It's like a snow angel. But the idea is like get messy immediately. Like before that you're in your car

and you don't want to snickers to get on your pants and everything's like put. Get messy. The sec A, get used to this dust. This dust is with you for the next week. Don't avoid the dust. The dust in you. Are one.

Are one. That's so cool. And it's just this immediate immersive, it's your first time you gotta do it. It's not your first time you don't have to do it, but your first time, they're like get the fuck in there. And I thought it was like a really cool. That's nice.

That's how Juve is too before like a carnival. They're like, hey, we're all putting paint and mud on you. Like, just do it. You're not gonna avoid it. So just get a little on your face. Yeah, and you're right about like saying yes. Like I remember Alex, it was his first day. You know, this guy is from far Rockaway, Queens.

You know what I mean? It's like, I'm taking a fucking Burning Man. Now, what I will say is Alex pretty well traveled. He's done some wild stuff, so it's not like crazy for him, but he's still, he's out there. And some guy rolls up in a crazy bicycle that was like a circle. It might not even have a bicycle,

it might have been like an electric thing, but it was, I don't know if it had a bed on it. It was just wild. He rolls up and he's like, hey man, you want a foot massage? And Alex is like, yeah, sure, I'll take a foot massage. So his first interaction with Burning Man, is he gets, some guy's giving him a foot massage,

comes back, I hand him a beer, he takes a sip of it, he goes, what the fuck is up with this? And I might be confusing my Burning Man, so forgive me if this is a story, but he goes, this doesn't taste right. We look at it and we realize that we bought the beer in Salt Lake City, which is So now we have percent beer for eight days on the playa you basically drink in Poland Springs

We want state rights. That's what you get some negatives Hydrated Poland Springs. Do phones fuck up your experience? They don't work there. And the more people that come, so the more people that come, the more the service goes away. Okay, that should be great. Yeah, so you don't have any service. You cannot communicate and one of the cool things about it is like when you meet somebody there, you're giving coordinates for your Winnebago. Well, this is actually really cool. I'm glad you asked about this. You really, um, it brings you back to a time before

phones, not in that we're looking at it all the time, but in terms of planning, meet me at five. It's like, I can't be like I'm late. Yeah. You better be there on time. So now events really matter because events become these things where you can reunite with your friends. So, all right, I'm gonna take a nap, I'm sick,

what are you guys doing tonight? Well, we're gonna go to this thing here and then we're probably gonna make it over that thing there. So there was a night where I just slept until late. I tried to meet my friends at one party they had already went to another one. I was like, man, where is everybody? I go to another party. They're not there. I'm by myself. I'm exploring. I go to the post office, have a great conversation with this dude, connect, write a letter to my

wife. No, no, I don't think I was married. Write a letter to my maybe my mom or dad or something. I forget who I wrote a letter to like, just you know, or something. I forget who I wrote a letter to like Just you know, I mean you're like You just you're just kind of like fine and then I end up finding them later Like no, I'll be here at 10 I'll be here 12 It was a random thing. Oh, you just met him and then imagine the feeling you have When you randomly bump into your group of friends. Oh! We did it! I fucking love that.

I fucking love that. Oh. So this happens all the time. There's these like, and now you can find different ways, but like you leave notes on a whiteboard. Hey Schultz, when you wake up, we went to blah, blah, blah, and blah, blah, if you want to come.

So there's this old fashioned form of communication where you really don't take for granted the idea of separation. Separation means like, I might not see you for a day. We have five days here. When we're kids, like where is everybody? I think at the park. People come and knock on your Winnebago door,

like hey, Schultz, what's up, man? And you're sleeping, it's like, oh dude, I just got in. Somebody told me you lived here, I've been asking around everywhere. You're just knocking on random Winnebago's until hopefully you find the person. Remember, you give a coordinate and then you give a letter. That's this whole street.

Yeah, it's like go to the bathrooms, then go down about 30 feet or so and inside. I live on 20th Street between second and third, and then you have to knock on every apartment building asking if somebody lives there. You know how you used to find Joey Diaz when we were on the road together. Tell me what floor you're on. And I just smell for weed until it got stronger or less strong. And then I usually like, I'm going for it. And then I would find it.

We got the Schultz dance. Yeah. Peak Schultz here. That's making me want to go back this year, man. Yeah. But yeah, these little things. So no one's like taking photos all the time and interrupting shit? No, you take photos and videos, absolutely.

And that has definitely changed it. And the big interruption people are talking about now is electric bikes. Versus? Pedal bikes. I think it's improved Burning Man. You can get somewhere without spending a day to get there. You can enjoy more places.

But what it has done, and this is where you would say it's hurt it, is that there's less of a commitment to enjoy the place you got to. It allows you to have FOMO. You're like, this party's all right, but maybe that one's better. And you can get to the other party faster instead of going, well, we're here. I mean, I'm not going. So one night what we did is we got on an art car. We didn't take our bikes.

And now you're submitting yourself to wherever the art car is going to take you. And that might be miles away. And you get out there and you're like, now slowly walk back and find some stuff along the way. Find some other stuff. But it's like. And it just like hits you with fun things to do

on your walk. Constantly. Like a fucking Lord of the Rings. You just see something in the distance. You're like, let's walk towards that. And then you get there and it's like, oh, this just ended. You're like, ah, damn. You see something else in the distance.

Let's bike towards that. You get there and you're like, what the fuck is this crazy seance is happening here? You see something in the, you hear something, but there's no lights, but you hear it. You go to the noise. It's. Wow.

Just constant exploration. Are there different kinds of music? Is it all EDM based or is there like a honky tonk? There's mostly EDM, but yeah, you will find like, oh, there's a 90s hip hop night. They're literally like a book of everything you can do from like getting your hair washed to like- There's a book.

That goes out every year, yeah. Of all the different things, what times and where they're at. So if I'm, when I did it before, I was like, should we make a comedy show as a gift? Yeah. And then there was like, would you say like, 2 p.m. everyday we'll be having it?

You could go up in the stop by, then you register it? So you could register it or you could not register it. You could just do it. What I always thought would be cool is like doing, putting a stage and a mic and a stool and a joke book on the stool in the middle of the... And letting people just read them? And letting people be a comic.

Oh, that's fun. And giving them the experience. Give them the experience of the playa. And letting people just read them? And letting people be a comic. Oh, that's fun. And giving them the experience. Give them the experience of making people laugh. And like, okay. And then who knows, then maybe there's 20 people and then you just pull up. And then all of a sudden. It's a big one. You're ripping, and then other people

are seeing it happen and then. You ever see Jewel get in, remember Jewel? Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah. Get in costume and do karaoke. Yeah, just. She played this sheepish like, oh, of course, yeah. Get in costume and do karaoke. Yeah, just. She played this sheepish like, oh no guys, I can't.

And then just rips it, everyone's like crying, like what? But she's ugly, how could she be good? That only works in Britain. Yeah. Wow dude, yeah, it makes me fucking wanna, so my standard for these podcasts, not to sum it up, but is at the end of these, do I'm like, oh, I gotta get to that place,

and I really wanna get to this place now. This is why I thought you'd like it, and I'm always like, I always tell people everybody should go, but I thought you would like it. In particular. In particular, just because you have a curiosity about travel, also you're not afraid of doing drugs, but also your connectivity with people,

and I think you see through a lot of bullshit. So I think you'll see certain people and you go, ah, you're just doing this Burning Man facade. But then you'll see other people and you're like, oh wow, you've really committed a serious part of your life to giving other people a great experience here. Tell me, why do you do that? And you'll like, people will open up.

I would say don't underestimate the playa, or whatever that's what we would call it. Don't underestimate it. Meaning. That's what, that's mother nature? No, no, just like that's the space, the playa. That's your version of calling it mother nature? But it's like, don't underestimate Burning Man.

Meaning like, push people. Have tough conversations. I'm actually curious to see what it's like in a politicized environment, because it's like, you gotta include me, radically. You gotta radically include me. So push people, see where they're willing to go. Like, see if they're really up to the values of the place.

Remember who started it. Those people. The Cacophony Society. Remember who started it. They want like, go make people go, what? Dude, they have the. SantaCon was started by them. So they have like the skirts on Tuesdays

or something like that, where everybody runs a marathon of skirts. They have like. So they have like the skirts on Tuesdays or something like that where everybody runs a marathon of skirts. They have like this, they have all these other little things that are part of that ethos where there are people kind of pranking, et cetera, doing stuff. They'll have a thing where it's like, people will be promoting a party that doesn't exist just to get people to the middle of the playa

and then there'll be a thing there that says, just kidding. Go enjoy. You know what I'm saying? Like it's just like so whatever right like like dude they did this thing where they're like DJ is gonna be at this thing thousands of people came they're like they're not even here like and like they're doing it to fuck with you because oh you're just here to DJ hop shake it up so whatever you want to make of it,

I believe there is room for you to do. I love temporary art where like this isn't about commodifying it. It won't be here long. It's here right now. This thing. And then it will go away. So you're just experiencing here and it sounds like, this is all that is there. Yeah. You're not going to put that in a gallery later. It's taken down and gone forever. The man itself. It's like, it's literally burned up. And like, who would put that much time

into something that goes away? It's something really pure about that, right? Like, imagine to work your whole year developing this thing, buying all the materials to put it up, putting it up, and then just lighting it on fire. Just for the sake of it. What the fuck? It for the sake of it.

Yeah. You know how they train. But it's kind of what we do. I don't want to make it about us, but like the idea of building a joke, building a set, bring it out there, it's lighting it on fire for us in that we'll never be able to use those jokes. We'll never be able to get that experience from that audience from those jokes.

Like those jokes' utility to us is gone after that moment. We proverbially lighting it on fire in terms of how it makes us feel. Now it just makes other people feel things. We can't get the laughs, we can't get the applause. Once we put it out, we're giving it. Dude, I was dating a chick and she quoted a joke of mine from like 15 years earlier.

She says one guy did whatever it's like. No way. What? She goes, yeah did whatever it's like. No way. What? She. And she goes, yeah, I always remembered it. Do you know that it was? I'm like. It was me.

Yeah. It was like eight years before I met her. Do you remember the joke? Yeah, it was about at strip clubs, a lot like when women turn their fucking pussy inside out, it was a whole thing about, but then this thing, where they go like that. Oh yeah, they clap their feet.

It's like, get the fuck out of here. No one's into that. No one has a Wizard of Os Oz fetish that makes you want that told them we're into that and so she's she's just retelling you this bit but but yeah that's what stand-up is doing you're sometimes you're on the road somewhere else, or just on vacation with your chick, and then you walk past, wait, is there a mic going on there? Is that a show? And you're like, hey, do you mind if I just take

10 minutes here? And you're like, really? I'm like, yeah, I don't know, it's like 30 people in there. It's not nobody. It's like an actual show. Yeah, then I can not take a full week off. I can like, this is perfect, let me just do that. And it's like an actual show. Yeah, then I can not take a full week off. I can like, this is perfect, let me just do that. And it's like not for anything.

But yeah, specifically burning material, literally we call it burning material. I don't, I gotta, I gotta. Did you think of that before? No, no, right now we're just, you know, we're doing a lot of things where it's like we're making these connections, but we look at it in the same way,

meaning once we put out a joke, it's dead to us. It has been burned. The only thing that it can do, before what it did is, when we told it to people, well obviously we can make some money, but it made us feel really good. We created something and people laughed. The money's already there. But people laughed and we felt really good.

We felt creative, we felt smart, we felt all these things. Once you put the joke out, you can't see them laughing anymore. It's now the experience with that is just for them. And I think there is something kind of cool about that with comedy. Musicians, we're jealous of them because they could play the same music forever, but maybe they don't know what it's like

to never be able to play a song again and then just give that to the people to laugh at and tell boys 15 years later. I think it's kinda cool. Now we might be into, you know. I heard Henry Rollins say something, it's uppity, but somebody was doing an interview with him and he goes, he started quoting some lyrics

to one of his old songs and he's like, oh, what is that? He goes, that's one of your songs. He goes, oh, okay. Like, how's it go? The guy like quoted and he's like, oh, what's that? He goes, that's one of your songs. He goes, oh, okay. Like, how's it go? The guy like quoted and he's like, oh, yes. And they're like, dude, you wrote it. What do you mean?

That's your song. He goes, oh, I just build the ships. I don't sail them. That's fire. Yeah. That's fire. Yeah, and the same thing, you hit someone else telling your joke,

like, how did that go? I can't even like say the, like, I'll forget the exact wording of the joke. Yeah, but I think it's really cool. Obviously I love stand-up more than anything, but I think it's a really cool, unique thing about the art form in that, yeah, once we burn the material, it's just for everyone else. I did open a show for like a fundraiser for Shelly Berman, that old, old Jewish guy, I think he just died.

He was on Curb a few times, a bunch of times. Maybe it was Larry's father, I don't know. But anyway, there's all these 70-year-old people in the audience, Jews, and then they were like, they screamed out of bed. He goes, the radio bit, man, I haven't done that in like 50 years, hold on. And then he's like, all right.

And he did it. And he got it. Yeah, good enough, but like, damn. loved it. No matter how big people are getting you're in movies now Stand-up stays a stand-up. Yeah, it's the only thing they really care about. Yeah is the stand-up The rest is just cake. Yeah Yes, it's it's fine. I mean, I think that, I think stories are cool however they're told. So like, if it's a film, if it's a sketch of these things,

I think it's a cool art film. This special life was full, stories almost from start to finish, a few bits, but almost story, story, story, story. So I'd like to see what like doing a film would be like, not acting in one only, but actually like writing it out and like making it. Yeah. Like really making it and see if I enjoy that process just because I really admire stories. Um,

but outside of that, yeah, standup is the coolest. I don't even know what I'm going to fucking stand up. I like making other people's stuff. Cause like, not, none of these are my jokes. I just like the building part of it. Yeah. And now you don't have to deal with the emotional distress of recording it right and knowing if you've said it better somewhere else. You just get to be there to help them execute that video. Yeah, that's where I'm like, hey, take that off your plate.

I'll make sure the seats are right. I'll make sure the air conditioning is right. Don't worry about it. Just get in your head. Yeah, we forget how little a lot of comics think about those details, but they really make a huge difference. Yeah, and people are like, oh, I didn't do well.

I was like, was the lighting way high? Did you not go into this? Yeah. And then everyone's shooting, it's like, oh, they just didn't do well, or they did good, but you don't know how good it could have been. Even the people shooting it, like I was telling this to Cassetta,

obviously we know Tommy said to both of our audio, he's a fucking genius, but we're talking about how like every part of the filming of a special, every like little division, is what they call it divisions, they're working against each other. So what makes it it the special look good

often hurts the sound. I.e., like if you notice in mine, I have speakers in the front. The visual team did not want me to have these big speakers in the front. The audio team said that they could do without it, but they're like, it probably would sound better for the crowd.

Now I'm like, I want the crowd. I want the crowd popping, or I'm not gonna do as well. Exactly. You can't replace, you can just get your shots. There's nothing you can do to replace doing well. Yeah. Just go crush. How are you gonna just crush?

Exactly. Yeah. And ultimately that's what matters. So I'm like, okay, if now. That's what we talked about with The Beacon. When you were like, I can't do this other place, I'm like, and you were like, how's The Beacon? I'm like, you did my show with The Beacon.

How did you like it? Yeah, it's great. And that actually was huge for me with just the confidence in doing it. Yeah, I performed before. I'm not guessing. I did it. It wasn't even your crowd.

No, definitely overlap. But like, okay, you crushed in that. It sounds right, great, okay, let's go. Yeah, yeah, and just understanding that. That was huge. That tells people that too. I'm like, go do a guest spot of the thing you're thinking of. Smart. The place where they're just trying. Because these places have comedy shows. You can feel out the venue. That's helped people out too. Like go do a guest spot at the Thinker, Think No. Smart. The place where they just try it.

Because these places have comedy shows. You can feel out the venue. Some rooms are better than others. Yeah. So like just like knowing that like. Yeah, exactly. Like what each part of it, what makes it sound good, like for the room might actually not sound good in the mix.

Well, Cassetta is the best at that. He's phenomenal. But even if like the first day, for example, the first show, I had to ask a camera guy to be removed. He kept walking down the aisle. And you're like, hey, stop, stop, stop. You're distracting. And I had to stop the show and be like, guys,

I said, buddy, I need you to leave. It's not your fault. You're just being asked to do this. You're a good guy. But you're just making it feel fake. Like I'm trying to do this thing like it's the first time I've said it. Even though you know it's not,

but I wanna be emotionally invested. We're both in there, it's wrestling. We both know what it is, but we're all ignoring that for a second. 100%. So take a seat and just fucking chill. And then like we had the audio lower, the first one, cause Tom was really precious about the audio.

And I said, Tom, I need some more juice because I need I needed to hit him I'll deal with if we have any reverberation in the edit. I'm okay I mean like ten minutes into the first study goes out. He's yelling Nope, I'll stop and I trusted only him to be like don't fuck with it during so that's the other thing Like my rule is once I set the audio Don't fuck with it. I'll fuck with it. Yeah, I'll go like this or like this. But you and I are aware of that. Because I can't be guessing the whole fucking time.

But most, here's the thing, I think that this is something that, I think they're doing- If I wanted them to scream and hold their ears, let me do that. Exactly. But they're, the audio people are used to comics that aren't maybe as aware of this. That's it. And they're adjusting to them. And then they get us where we're like maybe a little bit more into the tiny details of the stuff. And they're applying the same version of the comic

that doesn't care. And now we're chasing audio because they're restricting and adding in the wrong places. Yeah, exactly. Dude, Cassetta was not available for my storytelling show. He was like, I'm on a vacation with a friend. I was like, buddy, I need you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I can't, I need you. You gotta be there. And I tell everybody, he just gets it. He's also like a real artist about his thing. We were going. We'd go there in the mix and we're like, how do you wanna do this? And he's like, I could add laugh.

I'm like, no, no, no, don't ever add a laugh. He goes, thank you. That's not what I get told by a lot of people. And their managers. In my opinion, you have to honor the room. Yeah, if it tanked, it tanked. Then I tanked. But I feel like you also have to recreate what you heard in the room.

Right, be in the middle seat with the laughs all around you. Exactly. So if you're taking only the mics that are in the back, and not enough of the mics are in the middle, you have to go, wait a minute, the middle was more representative of what I heard that joke in so you can take that sound you shouldn't be making something It's not there, but you should be at least if you have something good like caseta He'll give you a mix that makes you go. Oh, this is awesome before you even are doing tweaks

Some guys are gonna give it to you flat and then you're like a bomb to a bomb Yeah, and then everybody does that's why I want everybody back. Hey the first thing you hear and then you're like I bombed to a bomb yeah and then everybody does that's why I warned everybody back hey the first thing you hear it's gonna sound like you bombed you didn't bomb we just didn't add any of the room in this mic and not those mics exactly but then you're editing off of that bomb and you're making bad decisions like I guess this one did okay you have to do audio first and then you do video in terms of interesting yeah like whole thing at least at a specific place. Get it to a good enough place

where you can trust the rec because. That's what Sal had too. I'm like, I'm going off with this better, but I don't know what did better. And it's like, yeah, we gotta get you the whole. You have to get it there. I mean, the mix that Tom gave us was phenomenal to the point where like,

I walk into these things and like, I'm like holding my heart in my hand. I'm like so terrified. I'm like, oh my God. It takes me two'm so terrified, I'm like, oh my God. It takes me two weeks to listen, I'm like, I can't. I'm terrified, I just, because I don't wanna deal with disappointment, I push it off, same thing. And I remember listening, I was like,

I go, wait a minute, if this is all it's gonna be, I could deal with this, this is good. And he was like, yeah, I did a lot of pat, I really tried to do what you do. And here's another thing, and I was like, yeah, I did a lot of patent. I really tried to do what you do. And here's another thing, and I wanna, but like, stylistically understanding, that's something that I actually explained to Tom. I was like, there are certain comics

that are gonna do long setup, big punch line. Stylistically, if I get into this kind of like, almost like a rant where I punch and I tag, and I tag, and I tag, and I tag, and I tag, I go, Tom, don't, because sometimes what audio people do is they'll duck audio, they'll take away laughs because... So you can hear you. See, and I go, Tom, I go, Tom, Tom, Tom, this is gonna distract people. Let them,

if we feel that noise there, let them hear that throughout. And it's like, well, then it's kind of drowning out. You can't hear. I'm like, in the crowd also. In the room, I have some time when I was first all Rogan do it crushing of like girls night out or something it was like I could only hear every other tag and that's because I'm breathing too hard yeah and I miss it so I miss it yes 100% and then the other thing that the I learned is like our director he did like a line cut. Yeah. You know what a line cut is, like where you edit it live. Yeah, right.

And I said, I was like, please do not do that. I go, we're not gonna use the line cut. Editing. Yeah, what's the point of it? It's like the metaphor is, it's like trying to catch a far with chopsticks. There's no. We'll do it later. We'll say back up for this camera angle anyway later. So what have we been doing it for?

Exactly, so why not use this time to make sure everything is framed up properly for the shot? If we want to go to camera to go to the human sake, I want to see all the cameras anyway, I'm gonna want to see all the cameras on every on every second anyway. So it actually doesn't benefit you all what it benefits you if you're talking to each cameraman and making sure they're in the right position. So that shot is

usable. God forbid they're in the wrong position and now that shot's not usable because we're gonna do a line cut. That's why I think editing comedy live, like even doing the live specials, why it's like the bravest fucking thing in the world, I don't think, I wouldn't recommend it because capturing the edit live,

like how do you know when I'm on a punch line, you're not cutting out to a wide shot. I want you to be- But you know what the material's gonna be. Who knows your material is like, which director that you're hiring randomly has your entire set perfectly down pat and choreographed? And what if I wanna like do it differently?

What if I wanna go left instead of right this set? What if the audience is louder and you're holding that laugh a little longer before you drop it? Yeah, the live special I never got. It's like it's standups always live. What have you added? A live sketch show is like that's unique. That's different. Oh, because something.

Well, why is that different? Explain why it's different. Stand up every single time you do it is live. Yeah. So yeah, to record it live is like that's not a bonus. A live sitcom would say that instead of a sketch show, a live sitcom. Like this is different than normal. Because people are laughing in that. And we're used to having it recorded, so this is a different thing.

But to do a live stand-up, that's what it always is. That's what it always is, yeah. So no, you do your best of. You do a few sets and then you show them your best jokes of each one. I couldn't agree more. I'll be honest with you, I couldn't agree more. It is a brave thing. It's not something I would do. I don't have the

balls to do it. I don't see the benefit. But I don't exactly I would rather you see the best version of that exactly. Do you get in some leave me some? Don't take it all. I say that to my wife every time I fart and she goes, oh, it's gross. I was like come on Andy surely, thank you buddy my boy. Thanks for having me brother. This is great. This is fun I really I really want you to check out the burn man. Oh, yeah for sure No, I'll have questions when I when I start prepping for it. Yeah, it won't be this year, but maybe next year What's your up to this year? I'll next year. What you up to this year? I'll be traveling.

What are you gonna do? I'm just gonna sell everything and go, go for like eight months. Why not do Burning Man as part of that? That seems like a great time to do it. I won't be in the country. I'd have to come back up to the country. You'll already be, it's like Labor Day around there.

Yeah, I'm gonna, that's September. I'll be somewhere near the equator somewhere. You just pop back up No attachments, bro Yeah, maybe so that's not an easy pop-up. I'm everything jungle somewhere. That's all I don't have plans to go anywhere Okay, fair enough. So you're just gonna let life take you. Yeah, so it's possible. It could take you there It is possible. You could meet if I meet I meet some people in fucking whatever in Borneo and they're like, hey, we're all going to Burning Man. I'm like, oh really? All right, I'll go with you guys.

Think we got an extra ticket. I'm like, fuck it, yes. All right, yeah. I like that. And then get back to fucking Papua New Guinea and eat some fucking human. Eat some human. All right, everybody, check out Flager and everything. You're about to get the skeptic tank bump

about to get nine new listeners. Peace man thanks. Well everybody that's the episode what do you think I'm redesigning the studio so oh that's about to fall and while I do it I got my old backdrop right here this is my my mask from Carnival in Trinidad and Tobago. Thank you very much. God, I wanna go to Andrew Schultz. Thank you very much. I wanna go to Burning Man. I feel like I have a blast.

I was worried about becoming too famous, but if Andrew Schultz can go, damn, you know I can go. Let's read some postcards. Next week's episode I have not decided yet. It's either me in Guatemala, do I have a, I gotta save that for when I have a sheath underwear out because man,

I had such a good time on, damn, I guess I gotta wait. No idea who next week is. No idea who next week is. Go check out Andrew's special, Life on Netflix right now. Let's read a postcard. If you wanna send a postcard to me from around the world, please send it to 151 First Avenue, number 49, New York, New York, 1003. This one is from James Bond Island, Phong Nga, Thailand. Oh, that's close. Phong Nga, Thailand. That is close. Look, that's what it says.

Really getting me in trouble here. Ari, I had a postcard with lots of different money a few months ago after my last trip to India, Thailand, Abu Dhabi, Germany, and Ireland. Damn, bro. I was back in India a few months later. I was back in India for another month after I stopped in Thailand, France, and Amsterdam. Dude, this guy fucking goes.

I love a long-term traveler. I really do. Where it's not just your vacation in one spot, then back. Ah, you're going everywhere. You know what happens when you go everywhere? You stop being tied to where you came from. That's what I find. Maybe it's different for you.

You stop being tied from where you came from. That's what I find. Maybe it's different for you. You stop being tied from where you came from. So instead of going, I'm here in Thailand, I'm from America. Once you go from Thailand to Amsterdam, now your last stop was Thailand. And so now you don't feel like you're missing America.

You just feel loose. I meant to send this card from Thailand, but fell in love. Oh, been there bro. Travel love does not last. I'll just tell you that right now. You make out with this chick, you're like, let's start a relationship. It's all great during travel. Oh, we share hostels really great together.

Oh, we could each spend $9 on a hostel bed or 15 for the single. Let's get the 15. We're saving money. We're connecting. And then you get home and you're like, he just picked up his socks off the fucking floor. You don't have a job. No job in Thailand, no big deal. No job in Chicago, disgusting.

I will keep going back for three months, I will, I'm going back for three months in January, staying in an apartment and traveling the rest of Southeast Asia. Damn, I'm jealous of this guy. Thailand is incredible. Food, people, and everything. I think Thailand is the star,

what's the word, food? Culinary star of Southeast Asia, although Indonesia's pretty great. Myanmar blows. I loved it, but the food. Tea leaf salad, good. Everything else and mohinga. Thailand's incredible food. I felt more comfortable there than in France. Yeah, of course, because less body odor. If I had more room, I would tell you about my

Thai love. Oh, is it Thai chick or Thai person? By the way, can I just say ladyboy is a whole other thing from trans and if you say you should say trans You gotta ask them ladyboys are different a different beast It's like Unrelent, I can't even explain it But I will know I will tell you that I tried to fuck one and I couldn't go through with it It's a bit of a homophobe This chick was fucking hot dude There's no reason not to go through with it unless that dick got in the way and it did get in the way

I even see it. It's a hot chick. Excuse me. He's made out with her got a beach. I didn't have to see the dick Homophobe, it's really disappointing It was a little skeptical after hearing all the things about these girls screaming, but this girl got my name tattooed on her arm, her second tattoo ever. Now I'm in trouble. Safe Travel. Safe Travel is Forrest. Thanks Forrest.

If you've got a letter, please send it to 151 First Avenue, Box 49, New York, New York, 1003. Ooh, an Athens one, November 9th, 2024. From Nancy and Jimmy, Go Ravens, nice ball more. Did you see that guy on University of Maryland? Definitely travel, dare queen. I mean, definitely travel, but the refs are not gonna call travel in this situation. Go Ravens, hey, love you Ari.. Also there's a little bump in there to

begin with. Thanks for the endless fun times. Love love love, sending love from Greece. Damn it's even got a Greek stamp. I'm surprised it got there. Greece is one of the most crooked countries in the world that I've ever been to Romania is the most Here's another one just some sort of Asian thing What does this say traditional shiruko I Don't know this looks like Japan You bitch. Yep, Japan Yeah, you can see from Nippon. They sent it from Nippon.

Pretty cool. Hey Ari, love the podcast. Listen to the Harlan Williams episode and decided to do my own around the world trip. Oh nice, Japan rocks, very very Asian Sri Lanka is next for warm weather stay black Eric I'm gonna get that thank you for the episode Andrew Schultz everyone check out a special right now go see me on tour I have almost nothing left my whole tour is almost over this week Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Seattle Vancouver Calgary Edmonton Thursday Friday Saturday My whole tour is almost over. This week, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Seattle,

Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. The Moore Theater, the Vogue in Vancouver, the McEwen in Calgary, and then something in Edmonton. I don't know, but tickets are all available at RUShifir.com, as well as my storytelling show. Only two shows left on sale. The 10 o'clock on Monday, the 21st, and the 10 o'clock on Tuesday, April 22nd, and then

Anchorage, Alaska on June 18th. And then I'm done, so I might add one more show before I leave, leave. Yeah, anyway, we'll see. No big deal. Guys, subscribe wherever you're listening. And that's it. Next week's episode, maybe I'll do me in Guatemala. That might be a good one.

No, but, ah, shit. Well, who else do we have? Let me tell you who we got coming up here. Afghanistan with Yoshi, Yanis Papa, South Africa, ooh, Tommy Pope Cuba, Tom Papa, Beirut, same talent, France, we did that one. Jamaica, Italy, Greece, Congo, with Baldwin Bankrupts. North Korea, ooh, that could be a good one. Gagnon, the UAE, shall I finish, shall I keep going with Gagnon?

Gagnon, a little flagrant too. Kuwait, ooh, that's a good one, with Nate, Joe List, and Louis Katz. Carnival, I'll save that one, London Carnival, save that one for when it happens. Josh Wolf, Mexico, DeRosa, China, I wait for her special. Ellis, Germany, James McCann, I'll wait. Ian Sterling, Denmark, possibly,

Graham K. Spain, Fahey Manor, Europe, Emma Wilman, Netherlands, Erb, Erb, Bernie, China, New Zealand, China, Laos, Stockholm, Switzerland, Japan, with Che Durena, guys, if you want the Japan episode, ask Che Durena when he's gonna put out a special, because I'm gonna time it with that. Ghana, damn, that was a good one.

Peru, Israel, Melbourne, Guatemala, that's me. Thailand, that's me also. Another Ari Matty episode, and that's it. Oh, I gotta record a bunch more in May. Guys, that's it. Please subscribe wherever you're listening. If you are submitting to the trip around the world, please submit it. I have to, now that I've gotten everything set

with the storytelling show, tapings. Oh, the lineups are gonna be great. I'm gonna get to it and pick out who it is. We're all narrowed down to ten or something like that. Alright, that's it everybody. Thank you very much for tuning in. Until next week. I don't know what they say on the Playa, but I'll see you out there. Say yes. Goodbye.