You Be Trippin' - Ghana w/ Chad Wallin | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir
Episode Date: August 11, 2025Donate to Chad’s Documentary! https://www.chadwallin.com/castleboys Follow Chad on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/chadthomaswallin/ SPONSORS: -Go to https://everyplate.com/podcast a...nd use code TRIPPIN199 to get started. Applied as discount on first box, limited time only. -Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at https://shopify.com/trippin On this week's episode of You Be Trippin', Chad Wallin takes Ari on a long voyage to Ghana. Chad fully immersed himself as he filmed a documentary there about the local castle boys for 5 months. He shares incredible videos and pictures from his experience eating, gathering, and hustling with them. You might be surprised how safe Ghana sounds, but his few run-ins with danger would make anyone shake in their boots. Anywho, help Chad get back to Ghana. Akyirii! You Be Trippin' Ep. 79 https://www.instagram.com/arishaffir https://www.instagram.com/youbetrippinpod https://arishaffir.com Chapters 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:13 - Chad Goes to Ghana 00:02:12 - Semester at Sea 00:05:59 - Couch Surfing 00:18:30 - Education Program 00:25:34 - Hustling Tourists 00:35:26 - Chad's Documentary 00:52:58 - Food 01:04:03 - Recreational Things 01:17:13 - Local Mindset 01:28:15 - Going Back 01:35:08 - Best Parts of Ghana Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Yeah, for sure.
All right.
God, I love that clapping.
Slate End.
I want to go, I can cue you in.
I should be producing.
In five, four, three, two.
Where you've been and where you're going?
This is our Reese's travel show, yeah.
We're going to talk about travel today.
It's you be tripping.
Yeah.
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to UB.
Trippin.
It's the only travel podcast.
Wait, it's a travel podcast where me and my guests go to a different place every week.
It's the only travel podcast that stands strongly against the Newark's teachers being shot by their students.
Today, my guest is producer and documentary.
Chad Walene, everybody.
Rick Whaleen, you might know of us.
God, damn.
I mean, we should explain that at some point, right?
Yeah, why did it start?
Did we put in the explanation when it started?
Did that one come out ever?
it doesn't come out yet okay
which makes it confusing
alright well whatever
yeah which one was that on
I think Ari Maddie
okay that'll come out in not too long
yeah before this well
alright where are we going
we're going to Ghana
this is cool
it's my uh it's on the west coast
oh no no no no not my homeland
west coast of Africa in this little
the elbow part nope
not Somalia west is
oh that's right that way
Ghana
somewhere around here
Sierra Leone
I can't reach
Yeah
Damn this is an old fucking thing
Okay
Anyway why'd you go
So I've been three
You travel a lot right
Yeah I've been to like 36 countries or so
Damn
Travel quite a bit
Been there three times
It was never like
A place that called to me necessarily
Like Japan or Vietnam did
But each time was like a different reason
And the first time
I guess I could just go chronologically
Yeah like how do you go to a place?
place it doesn't call you. I know what you mean, but like...
Yeah, the first time I was on this, I worked on this ship that circumnavigated the globe.
Yeah. And so that was one of the...
Crew ship? It was a cruise ship that was turned into like a university. It's called Semester
at Sea. Really? Yeah. Theo did that. Did he? Yeah. Yeah, I've done it. So I went as a student
and then they hired me to do audio video stuff. Yeah. So I've been on it three.
three times and went kind of all over the world.
What do they do?
What's the curriculum on this show?
They teach you actually like liberal art stuff?
Yeah, so it's like all over the place.
They have all kinds of classes you can take depending on the...
This is semester at sea?
This is semester at sea.
I thought it was like just a boat with like 20 people on there.
I think that's how it started.
This is a cruise ship.
Yeah.
This is way different than I imagine semester at sea.
Yeah, it was pretty crazy.
Pretty wild.
It was fun though.
There's got to be fucking.
going on to this oh yeah oh yeah how would they stop it they don't oh oh okay yeah right that was there
i mean you're at sea there's no one else to choose from yeah everybody's fucking right
wow it's like 400 students on there oh same age groups yeah for the most part wow yeah okay
obviously drugs or no how you're there were drugs so it would stop in different ports and we'd be
for like anywhere from three to eight days and like every time we were somewhere I would just
go off and do my own thing yeah so depending on the country you could find drugs yeah what do you mean
do your own thing so like in India I didn't come back to the ship at all the whole time I was there
or Japan I just took a train to the other coast and then went up to Tokyo and just couch surfed and
stuff and they don't really check in on you for the eight days you're there just like go do
whatever just go wow what how old you
mid to early 20s during this yeah this is when you're working for them when you're
actually doing it you're talking about um both okay yeah you could just go out for eight days then
yeah I don't know what it's like now but back then it was that's pretty loose but if you
didn't come back in time they would leave you they'd leave you yeah how do they can explain that to
the parents it's not up to them to explain it you know like your son's not here we're moving
fucking school yeah gone
Yeah, I mean, well, I mean, like, port times, the ships have to leave at a certain time because other ships are coming in.
Wait, what are the age groups of people doing this?
It's just like 20-year-olds, 21-year-olds?
Or is it also, like, high schoolers?
No, no high schoolers.
It's all college, all college.
But then they did have, like, you know, older people that they called lifelong learners, you know?
So, but they, yeah.
Would they fucking?
Probably.
Hopefully just each other.
Wait, you get off this boat at 21 years old.
Mm-hmm.
what's waiting for you drugs and hookers yeah and parties and but i mean like i was i was into
that stuff but like i was more into you went past them yeah i was more into let's get a small
group of people yeah and just go like you know couch or for staying with local people hell yeah yeah
yeah so you go past the drugs or hookers and just like get a cab and go into the end of the
Well, no, not always, not always, but I mean like generally, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I kind of wanted to get as far away from the students as possible.
Right.
Yeah.
And then when I was in Ghana, this ship came into port and I saw it from the outside,
you know, like hundreds of students coming into this country.
Yeah.
It was kind of sad, you know, I had never seen anyone throw up on the streets of Ghana before
until they came in and we're just, it's like, oh, that's probably not a good thing for
our image.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the first time I was there
was for a week.
And I basically, you know,
I just did kind of touristy stuff.
So like a giant...
In Ghana?
Yeah, giant waterfall,
monkeys and, you know,
small village.
Wait, how do you know which ones
of all those pictures?
Go back a few.
And now go back two more.
And now slowly...
Wait, one more.
And then go forward.
And then go, how do you know?
who was from forward forward who was from Ghana and who was just visiting keep going
keep going keep going so like how do you know but of showing me these pictures are these
your classmates oh the one back there throwing the hands up yeah what is this this is weird
yeah so that's cassava and they when we talk about the food I'll show you what they do with
that okay yeah where is how far away from port is this you're just by yourself now how are you
getting around this was probably several hours from the port probably more um yeah so
transportation is like it's either cab yeah or they had these they're called trows
trows yeah like a trot-trow van so basically you just pack in with people yeah and how much is
this and whatever it was and just goes to where it goes it's just it was super cheap yeah um
fucking families in there
you look so sad girl
I know
damn
yeah so
the place I stayed the second time I went
was probably
four or five hours
from the port
yeah
one of these
how are you renting this
how do you know about it
so
they're you know
they stop along
the roads
and you can kind of
just hail them down
or they have specific stops
but like who told you how to do it
I don't remember
probably probably the guy I stayed with this guy George yeah so the second time I went
George's great yeah he's awesome clearly rules the second time I went I started an education
program there yeah where we paired students in Ghana with the classroom in Kansas City and we
paired them as pen pals and they met through Skype to a group our project together oh wow and I was
going to do it probably in like south america because the time zone lined up better but when
i was in turkey i ran into a guy that i had met in ghana the first time i was there and i told him
about the project and he's like well you could do it in ghana like they're pretty welcoming to that
kind of thing and connect to me with some people and then i posted it on i think couch surfing and
on a forum and george responded and said i could stay with him what year was this 2014 okay
Couching was still cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And this, this was his place.
Have you done it more recently?
No, I mean, I feel like he's way different.
I think you have to pay for it now.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
And I don't know who's on there anymore.
Yeah, who's on there anymore.
It seems like we're too many weirdos fucking it up.
Yeah.
Either creeps or like thieves.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I stayed with some creeps before.
Yeah.
I knew somebody got real mad at him
because he wouldn't like
he wouldn't like hang out in his bedroom more
yeah he was like I don't want
I'm not doing that
he's just I've got to get this whole story
this guy screaming at him
and then like locking him out
and you're like all right this time is over
yeah I had to sleep with the guy
in his bedroom on the floor
yeah it was weird
you show me a bag of his hair
yeah
what
yeah so I left
He had no furniture, and he, like, his closet was full of the same clothes, and all the eight were, like, frozen burritos.
Where was this?
That was in Austin, actually.
All right, so wait, wait, so you go to the first time.
First time was just, you know, you know then to get out and go get guides and stuff?
That's what I'm saying.
Was it the ship telling you, like, there'll be somebody doing a tour?
I think the ship would give you, like, a sheet of, you know, recommendations.
Recommendations and like language stuff and currency stuff and like just basic kind of shit
So cool that you did it though
But yeah I think in any port you can when you walk off you can find someone trying to sell you some kind of
Trip or bus or tour something like that time square is that
Yeah, so that was that time but what I did find interesting
You might like these these are gonna look at these houses. Oh yeah, this is a this is actually the place I stay
the second time.
Which house?
That one?
This gray one, yeah.
Just concrete and nothing?
Concrete and nothing, and then this is the inside.
What?
Yeah.
So there's no kitchen, no bathroom, no AC.
Wait, it's a green screen room?
Yeah, shot a lot of content.
Did you forget to put the background in?
Yeah.
I don't need that.
What?
Wait, go back.
how hot is it in here
oh fucking hot
you're sleeping on a fucking uh yoga mat
yeah because it would be like
sometimes 100 outside
and so that place would just cook
yeah
yeah
um
but this was our
makeshift kitchen
just the hallway
and we washed our own clothes
damn
so the neighbors
they were nice
hi everybody let me break in
today's episode to tell you a little bit about the guest
Chad Wallin
really helped start this show
here at YMH
has moved on to bigger and better things
but he's got a documentary on Ghana
on these guys who stand outside
and like a hustle tourists
outside of former slave castle
in Ghana
these guys are like
you know you see him
in all your travels
like run up to you
kind of aggressive
people trying to avoid him
but this film he's making
is about their lives
and their perspectives
and Chad is trying to raise funds
to finish the film
trying to get 20,000
to be able to finish this film
and kind of bring to light
what these people are going through
and just kind of be able to see them as human.
So there's a link
at the bottom of the screen.
It's on the screen right now
and there'll be a little clickable link
at the bottom of YouTube or Spotify
where you can go and donate to the film.
You can follow Chad on Instagram
at Chad Thomas Wallin.
C-H-A-T-O-M-A-S-W-A-L-L-I-N.
I follow him, get on there.
He's got music stuff, travel stuff, and whatever.
Tell travel stories.
But help support his documentary, The Castle Boys.
Help him make something, but it's pretty cool.
Chad, as you know, is who we used to cover up the word pet on this show.
And we replaced it.
No, wait, I'm sorry.
I was wrong.
We used Ari for that.
Damn it.
Ari file.
Chad.
Chad is...
Chad.
Chad.
That's right.
So that means last week you heard and say, ARI over a few places.
That's ARI.
Chad, best of luck to you in the future, man.
I wish you nothing but the best in all your travels and all your adventures.
I hope you raise money for this documentary on Ghana.
So I'm now officially pulling you as the cover for the R word.
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God, this is an interesting one.
The Dark Continent.
We've got to do more Africa stuff.
Nobody's really been there.
But some people have.
Anyway, let's get back to the episode.
Oh, what city is this?
This is in Elmina.
Okay.
It's like on the coast.
It's, um, do you know, are you familiar with it?
Not at all.
Okay, so, um, it's probably like, pull up the map to do that for me.
All right.
Yeah.
And how far did it take to get there?
You just, or you got straight there and let you off, like, you can stay with this guy for
however much and like, go for it.
Yeah, I had been in contact with him.
Okay.
And, um.
Told you where, how to get, how to like, which boats to take.
I think he, I think he,
met me in the airport
like at the airport
because like when you get off the plane
it's like everyone's rushing at you
you look like the old on here
too I know so my hair
was so long and like
stupid looking that the kids
thought I was a girl so we had to
cut my hair
okay
go full screen on that
let me see this
okay back up some
they're talking shit back there for sure
keep going back out
one more more more
wait
so okay
here's the capital that's where we
that's where I'd fly into
and then over here
is where we stayed
where I stayed
Elmina? Yep
damn
okay
what'd you do all
there.
Well...
Oh, the shitters in here
must have been
fucking horrific.
Do you want to see
what the shitters look like?
Is it inside or outside?
The shitters.
I mean, I can't,
if I had to guess
if Ghana has
First World
or some other world
toilets,
it would be other world.
What do you think
they look like?
I think they're,
okay,
either built up,
it's going to be a hole
in the ground
or a reclaimed
fucking, like,
you know the worst
toilet in Scotland
from trains,
putting that put just out in the woods or just a tree oh really yeah what do you mean
where we're just standing ploop into a puddle yeah Jesus bro parts of certain parts of the
beach where most is where most of the people went yeah I can never are there the people around
you at this point like if you're out there shitting you can't be the only one shitting no sometimes
I stumbled on to people but I actually never did this because I just
I couldn't, you know.
So there was like a hotel, like, on the edge of town,
and they had a bar, and I would just walk, like, 20 minutes to the bar.
And do it at the hotel?
Yeah.
What do they have?
Regular.
Nice.
This is where the people who stayed was shot.
Yeah.
I mean, it's pretty.
It is pretty.
Except for knowing there's a bunch of human dumps in there.
Yeah.
What would you do?
Put both feet on rocks and then just, like, lean over into one of the puddles?
Just kind of, you know, squat.
but yeah um yeah i couldn't ever figure out how to make that work yeah yeah it's hard to
stay up that's especially you're out in the elements and you got yeah and then there might be a wave
coming wind uh-huh you got to kind of prop yourself up but now you're like hands and shit in like
in like impossible shit like area they really don't really teach you for this that's what they
should help you with on the boat on the boat all right go ahead yeah so you hung out here in this place
for like a week?
I was there for five months.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
You just stayed?
Well, I was doing this education program, so I was like there for the...
Oh, when you went back.
Okay.
I was there for the semester and, you know, teaching and running this project where, like I said,
we, like, connected students through, like, Skype and they did, like, art projects.
Whoa.
Oh, oh, that's that dude again.
Wait, back up, back up, back up, back up.
That's George.
Oh, they all wear uniforms like that?
Mm-hmm.
How big is soccer in this world?
Huge.
Yeah, look at that kid.
Just like, enough with the picture.
Let's get a game.
Let's come on, guys.
Let's get this game going.
The gas stations there would project the soccer games onto the side of them,
and people would just all gather outside the gas station to watch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Has gone any good in like World Cup stuff or Africa?
They played, I think in one of the World Cups, like a year or so after I left here, they played the USA.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
Mm-hmm.
Do they do any good?
I thought you were going to fart.
Who's this guy?
I don't know.
I thought it was Michael Jackson.
It's totally not.
That might be their pen pal, actually.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Wait, go back.
Let me see when they're talking to those people.
They're talking to those.
On Skype.
Yeah.
So these people are where in Kansas City?
Yeah, so my friend was a teacher there
And she ran it on that side
And I ran it on this side
We had a we like
I did a fundraiser in my hometown
Yeah
What did their jersey say?
Peace spelled wrong?
Pisco
Pisco
Oh that's the name of the school
I think it's
Wait, where do they speak in Ghana?
English
So there's
They speak English
But there's like
A bunch of different language
there they spoke fonti it's called fonti okay yeah do you learning yeah so like which was cool
because every time you learned the smallest amount everyone was just like ah yeah so if you said like
at's a den that means how are you and if they said it to you'd say bocco and that means good
but even like that small amount would be so they passed you they'd be like azzan and you'd be like
Boko.
It was like casually after a while.
They'd be like, what the hell?
Yeah.
Did they touch your hair a lot?
I could see them more like this is wild.
The kids especially would, you know, run up to me and yell Brony, which means white.
What is it?
White.
Joe Brony?
Brony.
Brony.
Yeah.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's funny because that's Brony James.
Plays like a white guy.
Jay questions.
Oh, yeah, I got so hot there.
It looks like it, dude.
Fucking hell.
What are we talking about?
We're mostly talking about how the other students live, what their lives are like.
They're like coming up with what's our place like, you know,
and like kind of doing this cross-cultural exchange thing.
What do they think of the Kansas City people?
I mean, they really liked it.
I think they, you know, I don't.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It's weird because it's just such a different world, you know?
So, I mean, they were all very excited to do it.
But, you know, like their classroom is dirt floors.
Yeah.
Yeah, makeshift wood desks.
But they all, they all, like, really liked talking to their pen pals, which was fun.
Did they know anything about American culture?
Like, do they get American TV?
They watch American movies sometimes.
but their TV is wild
like some of their shows are
I don't know
like ridiculous it's hard to explain
but like
you know the wife would be
cheating on the man
and then you would like
you know
slap her and stuff
really?
And they're just like
what are you laughing about?
Like oh well they just don't do this where I'm from
yeah
it's not a thing
I'd tell you what
They said in Romania, when I did a joke about the N-word and the F-word and the R-word.
And I'm like, it got lumped in.
The R-word got lumped in, the R-word got lumped in with the N-word and the F-word, F-word for gays.
But I wasn't saying that yet.
I was just saying the N-word.
And some lady in Romania was like, raise her hand.
And I was like, what?
She goes, what's the F-word?
And I was like, do you know what the N-word is?
She goes, yeah.
And I'm like, so the F-word's like for gays.
And she goes, oh, why don't, why don't you just say that then?
Just say the word.
I'm like, oh, we're just not allowed where I'm from.
She's like, why?
Like, I don't know.
It's just the rule.
It's different.
Yeah, I think it's making this way back.
That was making its way back a little bit.
It is fun.
It's losing its, like, connection to the gaze.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it's still got that connection to the gaze enough where it's like,
yeah, I can't really come back yet.
Yeah, I don't really use it.
Yeah.
I use it in text a lot, but.
Yeah.
Sometimes in my game chat.
Oh, yeah.
sure. I screamed it at Joe DeRosa once
at a crowded arcade
arcade bar when he was
rushing me and I was drunk. I was like, wait a second
and they both like
froze and stared at each other. Well you're
an interesting guy because like
publicly you're a fucking lunatic
you know, you're on the F word and
like shitting on stage but like
secretly you're kind of a thoughtful, nice guy.
I realized that was wrong in public.
Yeah. I realized
it did sound bad. Oh so.
So you stayed with them and who's
This.
That's a fucking R-E file.
Yeah.
Wait, no.
So this guy's name's Seth.
And when I was...
Typical name for one of those.
So when I was there the second time, he was also there and he was staying like several hours away.
And I had never met him before.
And he rode his motorbike into town.
And the guy I stayed with George, he's like such an outgoing kind of dude.
Yeah.
that, you know, he started talking to him,
and then he found out he was from Nebraska,
which is where I'm from.
So George called me and said to come have lunch with them.
Turns out we're from, like, the same county,
and he's, like, one small town over,
and I had never met him before.
Yeah.
And he was, like, dating my former guitar player's ex.
Whoa.
Yeah.
And both in fucking Ghana, seven or always from each other?
Yeah.
And he goes, hey, I got a cup if you want to hold it.
Well, we were at a party.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I wasn't, all right.
And you're like, yeah, bring that cup.
I'd love to hold it.
Yeah.
Yeah, so, you know, one of those small world kind of things.
Yeah. Damn, that's wild.
He drove all the wages to see you?
To see me.
To meet you, I mean?
No, he was going there because on...
Do they have regular parties here?
Yeah, they party a lot.
Nice.
It's fun.
He went to that town because in that town there's like a tourist attraction.
It's like an old colonial castle, like a, that they used during the slave.
trade basically.
Yeah.
And George, one of the guy that I stayed with, he and his friends hustled tourists for money
outside of it.
And so, yeah, that's how we- What's the hustle?
All kinds of hustles.
Sorry, my phone's gone off.
All kinds of hustles.
So they would, you know, they would either make bracelets or make seashells with your name on
it, or they would tell you they have like a soccer club that they want you to donate to.
Nice.
no real soccer club or they'll be like hey can you exchange these euros but you don't really
have euros or like you know they make the exchange rate weird and they end up on top with that
oh right yeah um that's why i went back the second time i went to because i came became friends with
george and all of his friends and i just saw these like tourists coming and going and and being
afraid of these guys and if you go on trip trip advisor it's like stay away from these guys they're
sketchy um they're dangerous or whatever the ghanes or whatever you call them what do you call a ganayan
but they're really not you know they're just making a live in and they're actually not that
sketchy like if so if you were to get your bags stolen they would go chase it down and bring it back
to you because they don't want anyone they don't want that reputation and they don't want anyone
fucking with their yeah their money is that everywhere just like just these small towns or like the
big city's the same way um the big city's probably a little rough
a little bit like dangerous dangerous or just like no no I never I don't think it's
dangerous at all what do you think the travel advisory says these are fun to do look
this up but what do you think it says do not pretty much do not go be very careful
or use regular precaution I think it's gonna say use regular precaution but I could
okay they usually err on the side of like don't fuck just don't fucking go stay in America
This way.
Is it safe to go to God?
That's what you got to put in.
Exercise, increased caution.
Increased caution.
Due to crime and violence.
Because members of the LGBT community.
That's if you're gay.
I'm going to have increased birth weight.
Yep, boom.
Let's see.
Okay.
That's the same thing.
Okay, now Reddit, safest country you can go to.
in Africa, it said.
Yeah, it's actually very...
Increase caution in Ghana
due to crime and violence
against members of the LGBT community,
whatever, because they burn them alive, right?
Hmm.
Do they have witches there?
Some areas have increased risk
with the entire trouble.
Okay.
Ports, be more careful.
It's fine, actually.
It's not that bad.
Hey, guys, trying to impress a chick
and pretend like you know how to cook,
but you don't.
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Yeah, so they're actually very welcoming and friendly there and they call it the gateway to Africa.
And I feel like, you know, Africa.
Not the gateway with the Y.
Not with the Y, no.
Yeah.
Not really.
So, you know, Africa is a big continent.
There are many different countries there.
You know, like Morocco is way different from South Africa.
You know, Egypt and Kenya, they're all way different.
But like Ghana, I think is a good kind of entryway into Ghana, you know, because it's...
Into what?
Into Africa.
Into Africa.
It's like a safe, you know, middle ground, I think.
Yeah.
so um wait wait put that on the screen I want to see the the law of Ghana the law of Ghana yeah
hold on LGBT travel okay Ghanaian law contains prohibitions on unlawful carnal knowledge
generally interpreted as any kind of sexual intimacy between persons of the same sex
it's illegal I'm not gay it doesn't affect me but it's interesting punishments
fines and or incarceration but that's what you want to be if you're gay with other
The gays locked up with no eyes.
Yeah, I mean, maybe it's not safe for everybody.
Yeah, whatever, but target of assault, and you're gay too.
Harassment due to their identity.
Okay, all right.
It seems like besides them, it's fucking chill.
Yeah, pretty safe.
Okay.
Pretty safe.
Some parts you want to avoid.
Like, yeah, in areas near the northern border, Upper East.
Okay, all right, keep going.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Interesting.
So yeah, I went back to shoot this documentary
And I essentially shot it with them
Fisherman
Yeah, so the two things they can do there is either hustle at this castle
Or fish, you know?
Okay
So some of these.
Oh, I thought there was your white friend who was hustling.
That's them.
What would my white friend?
I don't know, it didn't make sense.
I was like he's hustling tourists
no okay these guys that makes more sense yeah i don't think i was like how are the tourists falling
for this yeah trip advisors not writing reviews about my friend set right right yeah those bracelets
are pretty though yeah i would get one of those how much more of those be a dollar tops well maybe five
you got them it's interesting you say that wow look at these roads this is just a fucking
dirt hill wow d-ecc uh that was the name of
our project.
Wow.
With the Ghanaian flag colors?
Yeah, my friend made those.
Whoa.
I mean, they're cool.
How much would this go for?
It depends on how much they could get out of you.
Right.
What's like a typical amount?
And what's like the most?
I'd say about five.
Five bucks.
Yeah.
He's like, okay.
Yeah.
I mean, it's sewn by hand-ish.
Yeah, yeah.
Or whatever.
I have a video of them doing that.
Really?
Yeah.
weave it in and then cut cut out a hole here in the shape
um slide the whole thing in it's basically it's just like wrapping real fast in
different ways yeah wow weird I'll get to that so we're here this is George and
I guess we're drinking and drunk here yeah um dude I have a problem where
anytime I see people drinking in foreign places I want to drink in a smoke
Yeah.
Yeah.
Go back to that one again.
What kind of beer is this?
Yeah, I for sure want a clube.
Yeah.
It was great.
Is that their beer?
Look how young you look, Chad.
I know.
God damn it.
I was like 30 there.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, you look so much younger.
God damn it.
You've been horribly honest them.
Wow.
What's his time?
documentary is about the school or about the castle it's about the castle and it's about
it's just in the time where it puts in a stamp of the year of the uh time yeah this is all just
like behind the scenes shooting stuff yeah so I feel like I feel like you shooting
stuff yeah so I feel like
not many people could have
made this documentary
the only reason I could
is because the second time I was there
I stayed with George
and became friends with them
and when I was about to leave
the guy that kind of led the group
he was like of all the people
have been here we trust you the most
which was you know cool to hear
but you know it's big
they knew you weren't going to just come in
and fucking
I don't know
use them and leave
yeah
Yeah, they got to know you.
That's so cool.
Yeah, that's the...
Oh, it's pretty dirty.
I did occasionally.
You're not supposed to?
I mean, they do.
Yeah.
But I try not to.
Wow, that's cool.
Wait, is that the flag?
No, that's a different flag.
Go back one?
That's the Ghanaian flag?
No.
No.
So all these ships,
sometimes I mean a lot of them are Ghanaian but sometimes other countries come in because
there's great fishing there especially the Chinese the Chinese overfish there really yeah
where do they come in from I don't know just get around just fucking do it yeah dude China rules
with like nah we're just gonna fish in your spot yeah they really don't give a fuck you
really got a threat in nuclear to get them out and then South Africa does it with the
gold mines there gold mines in Ghana yeah we'll give you guys pick-xes if you let us have the
gold yeah I mean I'm sure it's good for the the government yeah what'd your family say
about you living here I mean they've always been supportive of my traveling and I think they
thought it was cool that I would just go do something like this you know with no like real real
I don't know, just on my own to do it.
That's nice.
What's that guy?
Heroine addict?
He's one of the guys that hustle there.
Is he sleeping against that pull?
I mean, they're there all day, every day, you know, for hours at a time.
So when it's slow, they just kind of...
But he's standing up?
Is he taking a nap, standing up, leading?
Maybe.
You can't.
No, you can't.
I mean, is he just sleeping against a pole?
I think so.
That's the wildest thing I've ever seen.
He's just standing.
Are there dangerous animals on the ground?
No, no, no dangerous animals on the ground.
He just put his head on a pole and then just like leaned into it and fell asleep.
I think he's just bored, you know?
I have had, wow.
How do you not, is he pissing?
No.
What?
Did see a lot of outdoor pissing there.
Yeah, I bet.
Yeah, I bet.
How did it smell?
What's the smell in this town?
Um, it wasn't terrible unless you were by, like, there's street gutters that are, like, three feet deep, and people piss into that, so.
Okay.
Yeah.
It doesn't clear much.
It looks pretty green, to be honest.
yeah it's very beautiful
it's very pretty
um
wow
it's so fucking decrepit
yeah
is this still in use
just for tourism
like you go and you tour
it's the old castle
yeah okay
yeah this was like
the Dutch
I think
built it
and then the Portuguese
took it over or vice versa
Dutch were low-key badasses for colonization.
Yeah, they don't have the name, but they really took a lot.
Yeah.
That's here, so they're coming from like here, taking that, which is tough.
But also, they got all this.
They got Trinidad.
Where the fuck are the Dutch coming there?
They go around that way, I guess.
I don't understand.
Yeah, there was a lot of that back in the day.
Yeah, not Trinidad, I mean, East Timor.
Yeah, how the fuck did every...
I heard it was all like, like, hey, like French.
for a minute, we're like, hey, we're not going to do a colonization.
And this one's like, all right, then the British are taking that.
Like, fuck, no, we'll take it before they take it.
Yeah.
Yeah, so, okay.
Yeah, so this is, this is basically them.
It's what they're hustling.
So they'd play soccer back there.
Okay, waiting for someone to come out.
So, like, all these people show up to tour this place.
Yeah.
And they're making these seashells.
Drawing on them?
They're making these bracelets.
How are they building this?
Traditional art?
Are they just like, whatever?
We give them souvenir, and they also give us souvenir.
Exchange is no robbery.
Yeah, so just bust loads of people come through.
Are they thinking, are people saying it's like robbery?
Is that where they're saying it like?
Yeah, I mean, people tell other people to avoid these guys.
Yeah, sure, but they just don't mind it.
They like run after.
To Tebow, Jersey, back up some.
Back buck a little bit.
This is what happens when you do not commit to practice.
You end up on a fucking Ganean.
Somebody came and jettison that there.
Wait, did Tebow play for the Jets?
He did.
He did.
He brought them God.
That's some fucking backpacker going, oh, I got to lose something.
I'm like, I don't need this Tim Tebow jersey, actually.
I could just leave this here.
Yeah, one time I showed up in a cab.
Look how angry Bobby Lee is.
I showed up in a cab.
Yeah.
And they thought I was a tourist at first.
Yeah.
So I like, they came running, like rushing at me in there.
Like they saw me.
It's you.
I mean, how easy is it in a place like this?
How much easier is it to spot a tourist over some place like Kansas City?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just like white one.
Get them.
this is the documentary
these are parts of it
okay
that's so cool
they're getting lit up
yeah
celebrating like a lot of
a big win that did
we joke with a wicked man
who wanted to see us down you know
but God make us strong
and we got fucking money
yeah you got a bunch of money
yeah
that's fucking money man
yo you're burgundy
you understand it's a funny y'all
Yeah, that's a young Jeezy song, lyric.
Everything like I just said, word for word,
be honest, yeah.
Yeah, so that's just, you know, parts of the document.
Wow.
I'm still working on it.
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Did you get to know them, know them?
Like did you hang out? What'd you guys do?
Day to day. You're there for five months.
You're not just...
So this time I was here for one month
shooting this and yeah we hung out we went to they had bars there they had like yeah they had like a
club on on the in cape coast which was like 10 minutes away and we just hung out and um sometimes i would
not this time because i was shooting pretty much every single day but sometimes i would go to
other regions and travel around and see some shit but yeah just hung out with them and oh that's what's
gonna ask you what's what's their religion
or are they religious
not really Christian
Christian and then
in the northern part of Ghana
it's
they're Muslim
okay yeah
mostly Christian here though
do you agree that muzzie should be a
derogatory term
should it be a derogatory term
I don't know if it's a term at all but if it's not
should we nominate it for one
you say muzzi I did isn't that
a like a language learning
program for kids
from like the 90s or the 80s?
And do you think they're anti-Muslim?
Maybe.
Wow.
I don't recall that one.
Can you, if someone doesn't mind, look up.
Or I guess urban dictionary probably would be the spot for that.
Yeah, you guys could.
Muzzy.
Look it up.
It's got to be.
Anytime you shorten something and add a Y, that's derogatory.
Sounds bad.
If we get demonetized on this episode from just that.
From calling them.
You clearly said Muzzy.
For making up a slur.
If it catches on fast enough.
muzzy language learning okay no no no urban dictionary muzzi a term from marijuana interesting
huh of Muslim in appearance oh wow of Muslim origin and appearance does it say it's
derogatory wait did you already know that I do not I'm in tune with derogatory the
derogatory world uh short for a person okay I know he's such a muzzy okay okay well
Last one.
Put in is muzzly derogatory?
Slurs.
Oh, they spell out I.E.
Isn't that interesting?
All right.
So I.E.
is the slur, and then Y is maybe the learning program?
Oh, wow.
Well.
Should we record next?
Hold on.
Let's record a quick segment for next week's episode.
Guys, I said some unfortunate things last week on the UB Chippin' Podcast,
and I would like to tell my listeners that I'll try to be better.
I did not know at the time that that word was hurtful,
even though I did break it down.
And that's why I first suggested it, because I thought it probably is one.
I should not have done that.
And I'd like to apologize to my probably under seven Muslim listeners.
And I'll try to be better in the future.
Okay, let's get back to last week.
I don't think you will.
fucking Muzzy's always coming after you.
They are the coolest.
They're not really like cancel culture.
They're just like,
we'll just take care of it.
Yeah.
Like when Muzzies get mad,
bro,
they just handle it.
Yeah,
just the way you say it.
There's no like campaigns and hashtags.
The way you say it does make it sound bad.
Jewie,
interesting.
It's lengthening.
Also,
it's descriptive.
Muzzy is not descriptive.
Jui is like,
look at that guy.
He might not be Jewish.
He's acting Jewish.
He's acting Jewish.
I don't like that either.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's see your painting.
Until they paint these.
Some of my art works.
I paint.
Some of my art wax.
Dude, they have this.
This is like word for word in Myanmar.
The same kind of people hang out,
paint this on the same rollout paintings in like the temples in whatever city.
The yellow men the rich resource.
And they're in the forest.
and they run off a bunch similar but they're all individual right but they do paint them
they just kind of yeah yeah yeah yeah each one's a touch different yeah yeah and they said
you can crumple it up and put in your bag it won't break yeah I had some right here
really yeah they didn't get it wow this is from Ghana yeah this is this is that guy's
painting interesting Tony
Mm-hmm.
Real name?
I don't know.
Do they have normal names like that?
Sometimes, like, their first name,
it's usually like first name is Ghanian,
second name Christian.
So, like, George is actually Kwame.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which one is Christian?
Which ones is Ghanian?
I haven't figured that out yet.
Kwame Brown, huge busts for the bullets.
Damn, cool.
How much is this?
Anywhere between, like, 20 and 50.
20 and 50 bucks
Yeah
Again it's like
For me
It was you know
What
I still
I mean are you on a massive budget out there
Is this like into the trip
Kind of spendatures
Or you spend in this all the time
I was
Wow
I was uh
These are really pretty
Oh so for
For this with the
With the film
I had budgeted
To like have
Expenditures like this
Because I knew I
I knew I was gonna take them all out
To dinner
And like buy their
They buy them drinks
And food
and, you know, just spend extra money there
because they were collaborating with me.
Yeah.
Oh, that's cool.
Like spread it around a little bit.
Make them like you.
But one of those is for you.
You can pick whichever one you want.
You can put it on this set.
Damn it, it's my favorite one.
That's the one I already know.
It's my favorite, really?
No, I'm kidding.
Wait, really what?
Can I have one?
Yeah, of course.
Oh, nice.
All right.
Which way does this one go?
This one's sideways.
This, and this one's up and down.
Yeah.
So like...
Well, that one has Africa on it, and it's probably...
Oh, look at the back of this.
Selected Harps...
Oh, it's on the other side.
Wheat, Mill Byte.
Pride of the West.
Wow.
How do they get this?
Product of Ghana.
I don't know.
There's just a rice bag, flour bag, in Ghana, and they paint on the back of it.
Wait, so which one's that?
What do you mean?
What's Africa?
What's the African flag?
No, the continent.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
it's this way yeah oh hell yeah bro yeah you can put it in here or in new york whatever you
want to do i mean i'll put it in here i'm gonna eventually bring all my new york stuff here
when i move out so it's gonna come here eventually wait so you're moving moving yeah i'm gonna throw
all my shit i'm gonna downsize hell yeah yeah then move to london but then i'll get it back and take
go out to London, so I don't know.
Where to go?
Well, that's not really down to it.
Where do you see it?
Yeah, I mean, whatever.
I'll downsize it rest of it.
Yeah, and then I'll buy a bunch of IKEA ship
when I get to London.
Okay, well, we have room for this.
When we set this up,
this whole point was to be able to grow this.
Oh, maybe right here, right here.
Yeah, we'll tack it on there.
Okay, we'll tack it on.
That's your job for after work.
Thank you.
Okay.
These are great.
Yeah, and they like...
Okay, so that's our hustle.
That's not a hustle.
That's a job.
Yeah, I mean, but the way in which they do it
is kind of a hustle you know yeah um wow but yeah for the documentary i interviewed them
all wait no i'm sorry i thought i saw a logo for that on here okay keep going you interviewed
them all about what life there um i was six years old i started coming here yeah just about
and sarah she did this to me and then this this is what i don't i don't like i divorce sarah
Today, I'm boozing.
I get some money today, too, and I'm bringing some girl with me, too.
I love girls, you know.
Give me one minute a, please, please, I'm coming.
Is that Tibeau Jersey?
They would run off during the United States.
They're abandoned by our fathers, you know, so our moms are the ones that take care of us.
They get abandoned by their fathers.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Do they relate to take care of them?
Hip hop culture in America.
They do, but they also have, you know.
They have their own music there.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
There's so much in my head that I want to do.
I'm a dreamer.
Like, always dreaming for bigger times.
My bed, I sleep on.
Damn, it's fucking poor here.
I have my teddy that I sleep awake.
That's teddy.
Say hi.
What?
Anytime that someone needs some place to sleep,
and I help him with this bed.
That's not a fucking bed, bro.
It's a folded-up blanket.
Yeah
It's my small living room
I appreciate how much
What did you sleep on when you were here?
Did you have a cot?
I had like a little rolled up
Yoga mat
Kind of
Or mattress
This thing
That's okay
That's okay
That's a mattress
Yeah
But it's something
Yeah
Do you date it all while you're here?
No but there were like
There was some like
Peace Corps people there that I would hang with and, you know, not date, but
hook up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you can't be somewhere five months without like getting a nut.
I don't think on this time because I was so busy shooting and I was only there a month,
but yeah.
What's the food like there?
And is that all different in the different like African countries or is it coastal is all
kind of the same and then like inner is all the same?
I think regionally it's somewhat similar to sort of.
some other coastal place is.
Yeah, like Guatemala to Mexico, it's like, it's pretty close food.
It's on the borders, like, it doesn't stop, you know?
Yeah, so this is, this is a light soup or palm nut soup.
So they have these, like, balls of, like, starchy kind of...
The one on the left looks exactly like my ball.
Yeah.
It's the way the sack hangs.
Yeah.
It's the one on the right is lower.
And then the one left is kind of upper more.
and then there's no dick in this picture obviously
but like yeah that's exactly my balls
the one on the right
is like a little lower
yeah I've seen your balls
Can we insert this a picture of my balls
Would that get us in trouble?
Probably I mean we could blur it
Relax any
We'll do it in post shock
Yeah it's crazy
You're moaning like no no no no no
It's crazy how much I've seen your balls
And you're like
It is crazy you're technically like one of my bosses
Sort of no we both work for the same boss
Yeah but on the hierarchy
Yeah, yeah.
Can I fire you right now?
No, I don't think so.
Of course you'd say that, though.
You could probably call Tom and fire me.
Tom, I had to fire Chad today.
He's seen my balls one too many times.
He refused to look at my balls.
So you eat it with your hands.
It doesn't seem like the food you'd eat with your hands.
It seems way too wet for this.
Yeah, you eat soup with your hands.
And then drink the whole thing?
Yeah.
Is that chicken bone on the bottom?
Yep.
So, like, you'll grab the starchy thing and, like, kind of scoop up the soup.
Okay, it's Motsie bowl soup.
Just made a little different.
Yeah.
Do you, is it spicy?
So, it depends on...
West African food is hell of spicy.
Depends on which one you get.
Like, palm nut soup's pretty spicy.
The light soup is lighter, so they call it light soup.
And then they have ground nut soup,
which kind of tastes like peanut butter a little bit.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Let me look at this.
See in here.
Okay, there's a restaurant.
Yeah.
Plastic bowls, plastic fucking utensils.
Bring your own soda.
Damn, okay.
Everyone wears slides?
A lot of people?
A lot of people.
Yeah.
They're also wearing jeans and long-sleeved shirts a lot, too.
That's interesting.
Yeah, I did not.
Well, I guess I did wear jeans sometimes.
What is that?
Just like, I'm a man, do whatever.
They do that in Dominican Republic too.
Yeah.
You know, you get used to the climate and the weather
and you just kind of want to look good.
Yeah, dude, this thing is awesome.
This is how they make that little ball.
Wait, wait.
Wait, do you know the, start for the video of this.
Do you know the Instagram account, Secret Buttholes?
No.
What?
Secret but holes?
No.
It's just stuff that looks like buttholes and, like, nature and stuff.
I don't know.
It's somebody squeezing a donut and then, like, like, jelly comes out of the middle.
It's a secret butthole.
Do you guys want to look up, secret buttholes?
Yeah, we got to submit this to it, the first shot in this.
I kind of wish yours was more secret.
Well, yeah, that's why I'm not on there.
Just stuff that looks like buttholes.
Look at that tree.
Tell me that it doesn't look like a butthole.
This is kind of cool.
They have a whole black to it.
Oh, I love it.
It looks like buttholes.
It's like a nice light, like,
oh, look at that one in the middle.
That's great.
Definitely looks like,
oh, that one looks like cum coming out of it.
So they're right.
Secret gay butthole.
Yeah.
I think my brothers would really like this.
Your brother what?
My brothers would like this.
Oh.
who wouldn't wait
let's see the chocolate one play play on that
this is going to be
fucking perfect
yeah
it was a little secret
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now play your video again
start over
there's a moment where it's a total secret
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yeah
yeah
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so yeah those were
you know those
when you asked me earlier
what those things were that those ladies were gathered around there were the white things in
those buckets that's what this is it's cassava that they pound into that starchy sticky substance
the men work it yeah is that like gender roles pretty strong here yes they are actually george's
mom like wouldn't let me do my own laundry after a while she found out that i was doing it and
She was like, no, you got to bring it over.
That's chick work.
Yeah.
Is that the reason?
Well, either that or she was just, she was being really accommodating and nice, you know.
But, yeah, I think kind of that too.
It's weird that when it's like the kitchen stuff in me, in, I'm trying to think where, maybe Myanmar.
The chicks work, pave the roads.
They're out there fucking doing all that, whatever, and the men are doing basket weaving.
Really?
Yeah.
Whatever culture that is, I think it's Myanmar.
They got it right.
Yeah, so rice balls and then...
Yeah, these look less like my balls.
But the one on the right looks like a secret butthole.
Go back one.
I'm sorry.
Stop acting like a muzzie for a second and do what the juice says.
Yeah, that totally looks secret butthole.
Guys, you got to open us out in this.
Yeah.
Come on, secret buttholes.
I guess I just...
I don't...
I guess you see...
That one looks like a little piece of poop that got pushed in
and now it's coming back out.
Well, you see.
You kind of suction it out.
You see what you want to see, you know?
You do see what you want to see.
Deep, Chad.
That's fucking deep.
This is watchy.
It's basically like noodles and beans and some other stuff in a bag
and you buy it on the side of the road
and you just like bite open the corner of it
and just kind of smush it in your mouth.
Oh, wow.
What is it?
What's in the bottom?
Beans and stuff?
Yeah.
And then noodles on top.
Mm-hmm.
And then sometimes like lettuce or fish and then spices and a sauce.
Is it?
Is it water in there or is it just like?
No.
Okay.
It's not like a sauce.
soup okay
water sachets there was no real
like couldn't I couldn't drink
the water and they all they all drink these too
but little water sachets it's just bags of water
getting you bite the corner off and
and then suck it out yeah
what's that hot chicken
that looks spicy go back one
that looks spicy as shit
that's the kind of stuff you eat though you're just like your head
sweating yeah I think this
was that might have been
squid or something in there
Oh, really?
Yeah.
This is very green.
This is outside the castle, so we'd, you know, break for lunch and they would feed us.
Okay.
How'd your stomach take to the food out there?
Not too bad.
I was fine.
Red reds basically plantains and beans.
And the same thing.
Use your hand fork.
Pretty much for everything.
Show it.
Show the hand fork. Explain it.
The hand fork?
Yeah.
You kind of just grab the, whatever the harder or stickier thing is, you like grab that
and then the other stuff you scoop up with that yeah and then you know right in your mouth yeah it's this
kind of yeah you just push it out into your mouth uh-huh do you wash your hands first before that or
you're just going um i think i tried washing my hands but you know you can't really sometimes you're
i mean when i was staying in that green room sometimes i was peeing in bottles because i didn't want to go
outside i do that all the time yeah i do that my own home right now when i don't want to go downstairs
Yeah, Danny said he's done that
And they all
Everyone in the booth was like
Ugh
And I was like
What are you guys?
What are you talking about?
You don't pee in bottles?
Sometimes you got to pee in a bottle.
Do you ever reuse the bottle?
For what?
I know, right?
No
I mean like what if it's one of those Yeties
Well, you don't want to throw that out
Yeah
Yeah
But also those yeties
And what's the other bottle
Stanley Cup?
Stanley
No, not Stanley
The little screw top
Turvis
Chumbler
They love them
Stanley
Stanley?
anybody it's like it keeps it hot or cold whatever's in there stanley okay i'm thinking that's not the
name yeah you're not going to chuck one of those and also it keeps the smell away the most yeah
no one sees it yeah well like like i said often the kids would run up to me you know and um
want a stanley fool of piss get out of here don't start with man well you know like i didn't
Sometimes, if I didn't want to walk 20 minutes to go to the bathroom, if you go outside and kids are walking up to you, it's not a very comfortable position to be in to try and pee, so I would just pee in bottles and dump it later.
Yeah, especially later at night.
Did it get cold at night here, or no?
Cold.
Sometimes maybe like a light sweater, but not often.
Okay.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Right on the equator.
This is what I thought you would like.
They have signs everywhere, but all their places are called.
Do you mind your wife?
Yeah, are called something kind of off.
I love this place.
I got to get out here.
Lovely kebab.
Everybody has kebab.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, fried rice, plain rice, cooked.
Jolof.
Yeah, Jolaf rice.
Jolaf rice.
Yeah.
That's other places, too, not just Ghana.
I think so, yeah.
Nigeria.
What's the weird?
Weirdo in Atlanta.
What's his name?
Where's he from?
He's from somewhere.
He's got roots.
Weirdo in Atlanta.
The weirdo character, the thin one.
Not Paperboy, but he's like...
Gator?
What?
Gator?
I know, but he's from...
Lakeith Stanfield?
Or the character.
Oh, the character.
I don't know.
Okay, actor's names.
Yeah, the character.
But where's the character from?
Maybe it's Nigeria.
Why don't I feel like Nigeria?
Is Nigeria on the other side?
Yeah, that's him.
Darius.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that guy rules.
The guy fucking rules.
He's the funniest thing on TV.
Put up Darius, Atlanta, Nigeria.
Maybe that'll come up.
But they have Joel Off Rice.
There's a whole episode about it anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's in other places.
Damn.
The many...
Okay.
forget it it's somewhere wait here's Nigerian there you go they really
disliked Nigerians there oh I love that I love a good fight that white people don't
just hate both of yeah yeah yeah where's Nigeria here
I think it's pretty close okay it's a little maybe north of it a little
so it's like neighbor not neighbor but nearby it's almost a neighbor but it's like okay
but they both have droll off rice yeah but they they just were like don't trust the
Nigerians or stay away from them
Why, they have the best weed
Across the country
Across the world, I mean
You need weed in a country
It's the Nigerians
They do have weed there
Illegal or illegal?
Barely illegal
Yeah, we smoked weed there
Cut it up with scissors like a fucking hippie
Yeah
This looks like Sean Patton's
fucking mom's garage
Are cutting up wheat
Nice bro
badass is it arrestable or is it just like uh is it arrestable i don't i think maybe yeah
but i think it's just more frowned upon okay that's what canada was for the longest time like
it's illegal but no one's gonna stop you yeah they don't want like the elders in the community
knowing that they're doing it that's how we are now i don't know if the cops really would really
come after them or anything okay um be funny if it was only like uh
it's dangerous to smoke weed if you're white you know yeah switch it up these guys yeah they
I don't know if you want a whine you want a tard a mas and if you want to move you with it
who's that um that's Tony no no who's that they're singing there's a guy uh to their left no
Are they singing to some, like, hip-hop guy?
One of their musicians, do you know?
I don't know.
That sounds like a real song.
They have a lot of good music there.
But some of it is Nigerian.
Really?
Which was kind of fine.
They hated?
Yeah.
They also have this thing called snuff.
Yeah.
That's the pipe.
Yeah.
The local pipe.
It's just open, small.
Amboos.
I'm booze of this.
Snus?
Yes.
I want to see this.
Small one.
wearing a Gold Coast hat.
I love these hammery-down hats.
Just do it out the...
Oh, he does.
You did it?
Yeah.
I look so unpleasant.
I look so fucking...
I mean, it's really just like...
Just like a shot.
Bring out to all the frames, you know?
Yeah, we have...
We have bad smell in our air.
That's it.
You can see I'm crying.
He's still getting hit.
Yeah.
He was crying.
Make the eye clean.
See everything.
See, he's crying.
No one caught you by his crime.
The best.
I mean, if you just color change all black colors in that clip to all white colors,
it would just be awesome.
I mean, yeah.
You make a fair point.
So they're all doing some of this?
Yeah.
Does anybody do blow?
I don't think so.
Wow.
I'd never saw it.
It's not cocaine.
It's not cocaine.
Look at him
You do it
You do it, you gotta do it
Right
Yeah
Yeah
Is it good?
Um
Does this make you want to do it?
I would do it again
I mean it's kind of
I think it was kind of mentholi
Or like
It felt like
I don't know
Mint opening up your sinuses
But also in like a very
Kind of uncomfortable way
Yeah
And what's snooose?
Is that a different thing?
They call it
So it's on the thing
It says snuff
But they call it snoo, so I don't call it.
Is it the same thing or is it different?
I don't, I don't know.
They keep it away from children.
No, they let children do it 100%.
They'll be in trouble.
Cocaine guys can't take this.
Cocaine guys, they can't take this.
Cocaine guys can't take that.
Maybe it's not for you.
See how it is?
I see me crying.
You see me crying?
No.
That is how it is.
I mean, they're acting like co-heads.
Yeah.
It looks like a red-skinned cap.
Dude, I don't know.
I love with third world countries.
Is it third world it is?
Yeah.
I love seeing their outfits.
It's the best.
Legit normal button-down shirts
and then like hand-me-done stuff.
While they're similar,
subtleties separate the pinch from the pouch.
Two popular types of smokeless tobacco.
I don't know.
I don't know which one's which.
Snuff is finally ground dipping tobacco,
also called moist snus is a finely it's finally ground but is enclosed in a small tea bag like
pouch now i knew snooos is like that i still sniffing it yeah it was like cinnamony in israel
used to do that the guy would come around a synagogue and he'd be like give all the adults give a little
thing i did it once but it can't it can't have a tobacco maybe it was maybe he said snuff snooce i thought
i don't know i don't think it was tobacco yeah i thought it was like more cinnamony
yeah it was something else okay yeah then they had like these jugs of palm wine
this is the bathtub wine i was talking about yeah kind of liquor everywhere yeah like uh
yeah they turned palm into wine basically wow yeah how i mean tastes what's the hit like
taste was kind of thick-ish um i mean it had a hint of like almost a wine but in some
Sort of an off way.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then how did it hit?
Did it get you, like, drunk, drunk?
I don't remember.
They had palm oil ones in, like, Indonesia.
They had, like, like, it's that.
But it wasn't, like, whiny.
It was more alcoholic.
We got drunk off of these things more often.
They're little packets of alcohol that you can buy everywhere on the street.
Pouches?
Yeah.
A Capri's son.
Yeah, he just rip open in the corner and things out.
Wow.
I mean, this is what they have.
had all through COVID in New York, but not straight
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So, um, did you try these?
Yeah, of course.
How much are they?
Uh, it depends on like where you got them, but you could get them for like a dollar, 80 cents or something like that.
There's no one that's going to be a single barrel.
Yeah, they were, they're pretty cheap.
That's just a shot.
Unless you were like, obviously a tourist, you know.
And three.
What's 50 milliliters?
Two shots, one shot?
I'm trying to look from her hands, how big it is.
Uh, it seems like a double shot.
It's like this big.
Oh, wow.
I think it was.
it seemed like it was probably three ounces or something like that okay 50 milliliters that's what it
says on there how big is that anyway don't know um and uh wow and you had those two yeah yeah we would
so we played a game where uh you would you know you would slap your friend with it and then they
would have to drink it that's great you try to avoid it or you're like all right well you try to do
sneakily so there was no real avoiding it
I guess I have to
slam this now
that's fun
that's fun
kids be kidding
yeah
um
but like it's fun
the kids would do this kind of stuff
sled down the hill on one of those palm oil
things
on concrete
let you go
they gotta let you go at some point
Yep
What that kid's just doing
On his ass
I think he has a little
Small plastic
Oh
The kid in fucking
A bathing suit bottom
This is fucking wild
Look at this scene
Trash everywhere on the right
Fucking that chick's outfit on the left
Boss
The chick outfit on the right
Mets though
Look how fun
Everybody's having
Yeah they have a blast
Yeah, that's
I
Licker makes the party go, bro
Yeah, I don't know if this is
This is liquor
What's the what's the
What's the fence over there
In the background
What are they keeping out here?
Oh, they're rebuilding that bridge
That goes to the castle
Okay
It was falling apart
Did you ever feel danger there?
Did you think people
Were gonna fuck with you?
I think at a club
I felt like I might get my
pockets you know ran through but other than that when I was in one of those vans one of those
shared van rides one time the like some federal uh I guess like soldiers or something pull this over
they see me in the back and they're like you come out of here so you know it's the only white
guy in there so they pull me out and then they like take my bag and they start going through it
and as they're going through it they have this AK-47 strapped across them but it's like slung
over his shoulder and as he's going through my bag it's like keeps aiming at my head and i'm like trying
to go like this and then both of them just start laughing they're like oh you're afraid of this
like why would you be afraid of this i'm like because it's you keep aiming it at my face so there that's
probably the most danger i felt there but it was pretty it was pretty safe i think yeah it was funny though
i had like another run in with some some federal people the day i was leaving they the hotel
that I stayed in for my last night
because I needed to pack and everything
they called me down to the lobby
and they're like some people are here for you
and I come down and it's these
these people in like military outfits
and they wanted to see all my papers
they wanted to see my passport
my vaccine
you had to have a yellow fever vaccine to go there
so they wanted to see all that
but really what they wanted to do
was take a picture with me
they didn't know to ask
yeah wow
Yeah.
And they're just like, can we get a picture?
On your phone?
Yeah.
Well, they had phones too.
They did it too.
I think I don't remember what happened, but.
Oh, is it her name?
Is that just her rank?
I don't know.
It's like the nation or something like Ghana, something nation.
Wow.
But yeah.
This has to be, this couldn't have been 15 years ago
because no phone was able to capture both those skin tones.
This was 2000.
seven eight 17 okay five years ago six years ago yeah um and then when i got to the airport
wait back up one back up one picture here's the outfit i want back up one what would have
wanted everybody on the um on that hill after you sled down okay yeah at the end okay here's what i
want to pause that guy's shirt the blue the sleeveless that is a pretty rad shirt i'm thinking
this at like it like a mottok beach house that with those tight they're those like
speedos just to his left of screen
yeah that's a fucking bomb outfit
and then the bracelet I got you
and then the bracelet I like the pink pants
the pink pants are not bad
obviously you can't leave the fucking
pool area with just the speedos
but at the pool area
and in the house if you gotta get another drink
but like who else has something badass
I mean that the dress on the left is great
but that's for chicks
okay the long pants
I could do the long pants.
Dude that fucking button down.
I do.
You'd go the pink pants.
Okay.
Blue shirt, pink pants.
I mean, he's got the whole outfit there.
Look at,
look at, okay, that kid with the blue shirt, the pink pants.
His just follow his, he's so happy.
They're all so happy.
He is about to steal that other kids.
Little tree thing.
Yeah, I mean, he's holding it up.
He's just seeing it going like, I'm going to help so fucking take that.
Well, that's, I mean, they're all so happy.
happy, which was kind of crazy to me, you know, because like...
They don't seem miserable at all.
Yeah, and then I'm like miserable here, so it's like, what the fuck?
Yeah, we're supposed to send our leftover food to the hair?
They're having a great time.
Okay, sorry, okay, go ahead.
That's the outfit I want for a procket, well, not Christmas.
I guess it's summertime.
Go ahead.
Look how happy you're doing, too.
I was having a lot of fun.
It was cool.
I'm afraid you feel out there, especially the five-month trip.
Well, I mean, I love traveling and I miss it a lot, you know, because it's like, it gets
me to well get out of my comfort zone for one but also like just it makes you it's like the
most present i ever am because like i have to be aware of my surroundings and i'm also in this
new place everything's new and um i don't know i just i just i like being in other places
it gives me an appreciation for america for sure um i mean noticing being present too is like
noticing it where it's like you are constantly looking around seeing stuff as new but like you know
shepherd fairy yeah his whole thing was like hey look at your look at your look at your
surroundings like what is this place you should like notice it a little more because you just
don't when you're like day to day yeah yeah you're right when you're traveling you're
noticing every little thing and it keeps you way present that way yeah oh and this uh actually
you might think this is ridiculous but this book bag yeah i've had since high school and i've
i've traveled like i've taken it this got to get repaired i know if i zip it up the wrong way it it's
gone yeah my fucking ospy thing
broke and they said like nine weeks
to get a new one I don't have nine weeks
oh he's got a zip up no it doesn't yeah
so that's my travel backpack
yeah
that's raggedy that's
that is small
yeah
damn that's fucking dirty
what
more African money
Ghana money
oh wow this is what we need
this thing
this little design
how often do you get like souvenirs when you're
places what a weird symbol it's a cent symbol yeah it's a cd that's the name of the currency but i
don't get too many souvenirs maybe like little things that are easy to travel with i mean all
these this looks like a do-op group from the 50s i mean dead on what is that coffee bean
what's that being
uh that looks like
i have no idea
it's stamped on there
like it's like always
one cccccc
i forget what the exchange rate is it's been a while
it's got to be nothing how much would these be
would you guess
how much would you know
let me guess
that's probably
i'm going to be wrong because i don't remember
yeah sure maybe four dollars
okay and what could you get with the
20 full meal you could get it yeah food was really cheap yeah like those uh especially like
watchy or like the soups and stuff yeah like a few bucks a couple bucks something like that
but i'm probably off on this exchange rate you want to look it up yeah okay yeah it's
tough to remember the exchange rates in different places yeah i've been the governor signed it
2015 2015
yeah I'll put one
it's a 65 wait
it's 6 cents to one CD
6 cents
to one CD so 20 CDs
20 is 60 a dollar 30
$20 yeah $1.30 okay
a dollar 30 is one of these
and you could get a full
soup and more yeah how much is there a beer be
one of these or less
it depends on like what kind of place you went
but yeah they're about a dollar or two
a couple bucks I fucking love that
I don't know what it is now this was
2017
right
legal tender for the payments
any amount
I don't know where it is
you're just like
wow
so how was it leaving
so leaving like I said they came down and like you know show us your papers yeah
when I was leaving the airport I brought my guitar with me on the second time I went
because I was going to be there for five months yeah I'm not you like playing I play music
it's just like the travel guy with the guitar is like oh but it's not like I took it to like
bonfires and I was like come check out my guitar it's like I was stuck in this green room sometimes
for hours of the time it's like I got to have why are they green is that just their flare so
he rented that place and the ceiling was green and he just wanted the rest of it to match so he
painted it all green yeah so when i you know how when he fly you can kind of bring bigger things with
you and they'll check it at the gate there yeah like i used to do that with my guitar a lot on the way back
the airport airport worker in ghana wouldn't let me do that he said i had to strap it to my other
bag so he made me
he made me
basically saran wrap it to my other bag
and I was like I was like
this is going to break
I'm like that's my guitar is going to break if we do that
because that's just a soft bag
you know not like one of the hard case ones
and he's like well that's the only thing you can do
I was like fuck fine and then of course
the whole thing got all smashed
up
but you know
sometimes when you're in Ghana it's just like
I you know
sympathy there's random rules that you just kind of have to follow sometimes that don't make
sense yeah and you try to argue whether you're just like it's not i don't know if this is like
standard what he's doing or he's doing a dick yeah i tried arguing but he was just not
like if a tsa guy's overstepping you could be like and it's gonna like hurt your stuff you're
like get me a supervisor right it's not the right thing yeah but like when you don't know in
the country you're like am i how to carean on this right yeah i think i should carean but i'm not
sure my baby i like slightly karen but not not crazy i was like uh i mean i do when i'm traveling
in another place i'm just kind of like i guess this is how it this situation's happening
you know right yeah when you left after the five months and then you went back again for one
month yeah for the documentary so first was like eight days or five days or something just on a stop over
yeah something like that and then you're like i like this place i want to go back i only went back to
do that education program because i had met this guy in turkey who was like
you should do in Ghana so I went to go do it there okay so yeah I never really
wanted to go but life has a way of I don't know presenting opportunities and shit
like that and are you now like more when you hear the word Ghana like if it's like
a World Cup game are you like yeah I definitely by it you know so some I've had a
an Uber driver recently and I was like I recognize that accent and I was like are you
from Ghana and he was like so excited you know because nobody knows no one knows
but it is cool and like there's some
kind of, you know, Gane thing or connection that happens,
and then I can talk about it with somebody.
Yeah.
Whenever I see Ecuador stuff, if, like, they're playing in anything.
Yeah.
You were there for, like, six months?
Six months, yeah.
But I'm always like, oh, I root for them instantly, always.
And then, yeah, this, they copied the fucking Barcelona thing.
They even put Barcelona on it.
All they just have was local beer, which I should have here,
get some peels nurse or clubs.
but yeah you're always like that's my that's my jam yeah I have association with it yeah I mean like
I said I've been to a lot of different places but I think since I've been to Ghana three times and
I've spent a lot of time there's to I feel like when you're in a place for a long time it's
it's way different than you know even going for a week or two because there's there's a certain
point where this fog kind of starts to like lift a little bit and you're like you start to
see why you know they think this particular thing's funny or why they say something
something like that or why this other thing is the way it is that you just didn't see before
you know it starts to present itself more clearly because you're not seeing it like new
because you're not because well because you're just getting you're getting more acclimated to
the culture and like how their world works so like what kind of thing would you like sort
of see but not before um let me just make up an example of something you're talking about
hmm I don't know well like yeah I don't know it's I don't I don't remember I just
remember that feeling and I remember you know like sometimes I get where it's like oh I don't
have to do anything today I'm not like it's not like come out quick so that feeling
led to me that that that was kind of one of them was so when I was doing that education program
sometimes the headmaster like I'll be like we're coming Thursday and he'd be like yes you know
but he's only saying that because he wants to say yes and he wants to be polite
Thursday comes and it's like, well, maybe not today, we're busy or something.
And then you just kind of get used to, it's the time and the scheduling is way different.
And so you kind of learn to slow down and then you kind of get it, you know, because they're, I mean, they're fishing or they're hustling or like people are cooking on the street.
There's no like time sensitive thing that they're really stuck to.
yeah so you get to that like pace of life yeah yeah yeah oh you guys don't schedule as much as we do
yeah or like New York to San Diego it's just like you always like get out of the way and then
they're like why or like a tourist will do something stupid and you get you like look over at your
friend who's from there and you're like I know why that's stupid you know I get it now yeah yeah
yeah but yeah with the uh the the like this is they can either hustle
or they can fish and this like this is their this is like their option you know
hustle or fish yeah are they looked at the same way it's like whatever just get
money or whatever I think it's sell the fish right yeah I think it's just you know
make a living right
but yeah these things are huge
damn i mean three guys just look the back half of it
yeah look at all these guys putting in like makeshift like wheels and stuff
yeah pyramids are built wow so yeah it's hard work um so that's why some of the guys
choose to not hang out of it yeah to paint yeah is that guy smoking weed probably yeah
yeah so yeah what fish do they have there
I don't remember, but it was a very, their food was very seafood heavy or like goat and chicken.
There wasn't a lot of beef or anything, but it was a lot of seafood.
I mean, seafood's the cheapest, any coastal place, like, there's just like food there.
Just tons of food.
Yeah.
There's nothing you have to upkeep them.
Mm-hmm.
Just get them.
Yeah.
But yeah, I'm trying to go, I want to go back.
I was going to go back to shoot more because I'm trying to finish this documentary.
But the pandemic happened, so I couldn't go.
Which pandemic?
I'm in Texas.
They denied it.
Yeah, what happened?
I should have been in Texas.
Unfortunately, I was in Chicago and I was in New York.
Yeah, New York is not great for it, yeah.
No.
So you're going to go back and finish it.
What else do you got to get?
So I have enough footage to finish the feature, but I feel like there's more I could add to it to like just make it a little bit stronger.
Or I want to bring George here.
He wants to come here.
So I'm trying to go through the visa application process with him to do that.
Can you just visit or he wants to move?
He wants to visit.
I don't think they'd let him move.
You need a visa just to visit?
Yeah, I guess so.
I mean, it's very hard to get to, like, it's a whole process and you can still be denied,
even if you have all these letters and people are like just to come visit.
Just to go visit.
Yeah, like the United States, it's different for every country how hard it is to get a visa
to come here.
Yeah.
You know, Ghana is not high on the list on.
Canadians can just come visit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But right.
Other countries are like, wow.
So, yeah, I've been like, I've been.
I want to go back still and just see what it's like after the pandemic.
And a couple of the guys actually have died, which is sad.
From loneliness?
For you not being there?
Yeah, they miss me a lot.
So, yeah, just to see how it's changed.
But I've been applying to like a lot of film grants,
but film grants and academia aren't really in the market for funding white dudes in Africa kind of projects, you know?
How much would you need?
I'm not going to donate it, but I'm just wondering.
So my budget that I've figured out is somewhere between like,
If I were to go back and also pay for coloring and like festival submissions and just everything to finish it is like 15 or so.
15 ground.
Yeah.
So I'm trying to.
What?
They don't have grants for that.
They do.
I've applied to a bunch of them.
I got a rejection letter yesterday and they gave me feedback.
It was like two pages.
Like we're all glowing like positive stuff.
And then it said his your identity might be a problem.
Put any on the fucking picture.
That's actually that's what one of my.
Just do it.
Just co-sign them.
as like a head.
I started this in grad school.
It would be like one of those fake marriages.
Give him 500 bucks to say he's the president of the company.
One of my professors said that if I wanted to get this project funded,
I would have to hire a person of color and put them above me on the credits as like a, you know.
And I was like, well, that actually sounds more racist to me.
They really don't know what they're doing.
They just don't want to be wrong.
I would collaborate with the Ghanaian on this, but I'm not just going to like,
That's tokenism to me
I don't know
What about George?
Yeah George
He's not helping to make it
Or is he
George is a producer on it
But like
You know he's in Ghana
It's hard to
Right
Apply for film grants here
With him there
But yeah
I'm just going my own route
I think I'm just gonna like
Try to find some like
Wealthy doc fans
Or comedy fans
Or like degenerates
To get
I'm gonna go separately
Like my own way
To make this happen
Gotta go find me
We'll put it in the end of this episode
I was thinking about doing like...
If there's only somebody you knew
who used to spend a ton of money on food
and now spends less,
he could have that extra food money.
Wait, what?
What?
Who?
The fucking owner, bro.
Oh.
He was spending $100 a day
and fucking just rice.
You're making that up, though?
No, his rice budget was fucking massive.
He loved carbs.
That's bigger than their rice budget.
He's all thin now and frail.
Yeah, yeah.
Just be like, donate your fucking, you know,
car budget to me.
For a week, you'd have it.
Anyway, or put a go-fund me.
Maybe people will help you with it.
Yeah, I might do that.
I mean, it would be cool to fund something independently, like, through, like, people
outside of those systems.
No one's going to weigh in and be like, I want you to do it this way.
Yeah, I'm kind of, at this point, I'm just like, fuck I'm, like, I don't really need them.
Like, it doesn't, I don't care if it plays at, like, a snobby festival.
You know, I can set up my own screening and do my own thing and put it on the internet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that's the goal.
That's what I've been trying to do.
Keep getting rejected.
So, but I mean, you're almost there, too.
Do you have to put that together?
I don't know how the documentary and the grant world world works.
There's like grants for different stages of projects.
Mine's like, if I just put a few months into it, I could finish it up,
except for if I want to go back or bring George here, that would take a little longer.
It's right here.
Yeah.
It's right in there.
Okay.
Yeah.
Do you, do they have any islands off there?
Off there?
I don't know.
I have been to Mauritius, which is.
An island on this side.
I heard about an island it heard about it.
I was fucking not writing jokes being on social media.
And I saw there's an island off Kenya that's like only donkeys, no cars.
Huh.
And it's just like really pretty, but nobody goes there.
Yeah.
Damn.
What surprised you about Ghana that you were like, no fucking way.
But it's the true thing.
Hmm.
What surprised me about Ghana?
Or what would people not know that you're like?
Actually, it's this.
Would no one suspect?
who would no one I don't think anyone knows anything about Ghana to be honest so it's like everything like it's very safe like even you know it seems like oh I'm not gonna go down to a beach where these guys are just like they're around dangerous as fuck yeah and it's not like I mean I just me and my friend John who's in the film we just walked down there and asking if we could start filming and then hung out with them you know everyone's pretty welcoming my friend Seth he he had that motorbike and
and like one time he left his helmet on it and went to go do something and when he came back
the helmet was gone and then he was like ah man someone fucking stole it but then some guy came he was
like no we just were watching it for you so it doesn't get stolen oh wow so it's like i don't know
they're very yeah they're very nice nice people yeah you really got to face your own fears at that
point you're like what am i scared of yeah like everything points to this is fine and i'm still scared
It's me.
But that's partly why I'm doing that documentary
is because people come in there
and they're afraid of places like this
and they just go to the tourist thing
and they get out.
And it's like, no, you could learn a lot more
and have an interesting time meeting people who live there
and they're actually, you don't need to avoid them
if you get out of your comfort zone a little bit.
Yeah, it's just like, I get the fear, but...
That wasn't bad.
I'm going to retire.
I'm going to retire.
That was pretty fucking good.
Yeah.
I try to buy instruments.
I used to buy instruments different places I went,
but I got this thing in Morocco that it was like a big string thing
and it had a big drum and it was wrapped in animal hide,
but it wasn't treated animal hide.
So when I brought it back, it started to rot.
And I was like, maybe I don't need to buy instruments everywhere.
How would, would there any like epic like meals or feasts, you know,
were there any like big like family get-togethers you'd be at?
Yes.
Or holiday parties, like for, with food?
We had Independence Day when I was there, their Independence Day.
And that was like a big celebration.
But the biggest one we had was when we wrapped filming on the documentary.
One of their friends kind of owned this big kind of resort.
Not resort, but like a place where tourists would go watch like dancers and stuff.
And so we went out to this place and rented it and like we bought food for all the guys that hustle at the castle.
Yeah, that's fun.
Yeah.
And, like, just everything that they wanted to, like, there was chicken.
There was, like, their favorite meals.
There was all kinds of beer.
But this kind of stuff is mostly for, like, the tourists.
I mean, they would never have a thing that says Ghana in Ghana.
We would never have an USA thing.
Yeah.
That's typically typical.
Yeah, but, you know, they would have, like, fire breathing and shit like that.
Is that based on them at all or no?
They're just doing it for tourists?
I think it's
Well, fire breathing, I'm not sure
The drumming is very ingrained
In the culture and the tradition
Fire, I'm not sure
You know they outlaw drumming in Trinidad
What do you mean?
They said you're not allowed to drum anymore
It's a revolution song
Huh
And so then they responded by going
Well, we got to make music
So they use those oil drums
Huh
And that's how steel pan started
I think they should outlaw drum circles here
They should outlaw drum circles here
They should outlaw drum circles
I'll keep it to a very, very end of a beach.
They're never different.
They're never different.
It's not so much, it's always like for two minutes.
Like, this is pretty cool, everything coming together.
Yeah.
And they're like, these people kind of suck, though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's no way to do it right.
You couldn't have a bunch of, like, white chicks doing it
without, like, Harry Pitts and Dreads.
Yeah, I mean, it's often white chicks with Harry Pitts and Dreads.
Lech people.
Yeah.
Yeah, I want to go back.
I want to finish the dock.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I definitely, I want to go.
What do you miss about that place?
Is it like a food that you miss or anything?
I do.
Or like, like, any naturey thing?
Like, what do you like, when you think about it like, oh, I want to do that again?
I miss the, I miss the, there's like a certain freedom there to where, you know, here socially, we're very free country, but like socially there are rules that you're kind of constrained to.
Protestant shit.
Yeah.
Puritan stuff.
Yeah.
And there felt, even though it was.
we did read that it's not good for gay people, you know?
Yeah, this is what we're talking about.
There's a certain freedom in like, I don't know, you can cross the street wherever you want.
You just feel free walking around or I can sit right here.
It's not weird if I were to just sit on the street or like do something.
Kids can go suns out, guns out with no one look at it and weird.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, people, I saw, I mean, people shower, like they bathe themselves with buckets of water just out there in front of people.
Yeah, it just was more free.
and like some of the street food
was pretty good.
Cheap.
Yeah?
Yeah.
That seems cool.
Would you ever go?
I would.
I'm starting to,
from this podcast,
more and more going like,
I got to face my fears on Africa
and actually,
I mean,
I would read,
it's like,
there are different countries.
I'm like,
yeah, yeah,
but in my head,
they're all still one big fucking continent.
Yeah.
But like starting to like internalize,
they actually are different.
Not northern Africa.
We all look at as different,
but like,
all of that,
you're down.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're all.
very different here and i guess miss somalia well maybe simalia too but like that all seems the same
but i know it's not so it's like yeah do some research like which ones are they're like
a hundred percent do not be there i like south africa a lot yeah yeah south of africa
you ever see kneecap um yeah i would definitely go so gana seems like a decent start
It's a good entryway.
Liberia and Moravia, I have a bunch of friends in Liberia.
They left during the wars, and then now they can go back, but they don't.
Did you go see the Congo at all?
No, I haven't been to the Congo.
Did you get inland?
Not really.
No, not yet.
Yeah.
Because what started me there was the ship, so it was like very port-centric.
How did, how was travel here?
Was it just?
Is it easy, cars, trains, buses, or?
Trains and vans.
Trains and vans.
Yeah, that's pretty much it.
But not, wait, wait, wait, wait, cars and vans.
Oh.
No trains.
So it was like.
So then that's really kind of isolated to get places.
Or would you go planes to a place?
You would go planes to another place.
And they were all cool with it, like they had them?
What, planes?
I mean, so you could get around, like accessible?
Yeah, I mean, they had an airport in the capital, and that was kind of it.
Okay.
You know, which was like five hours from all.
I had to one time driving to the airport we had to I was in one of those vans and I had to make
them stop so I could piss on the side of the road because there are no stops just you know
keep going yeah yeah and all these cars are just watching me you know yeah just like whatever
I miss my bottles all right yeah well let's do the last couple things you got to where you
want to go I say your travel advice well what's great about what I really like working on your
show because I like comedy suck on that bert people work on my show enjoy it and don't just do it
because they feel threatened we feel threatened in a different way yeah yeah we don't I don't
whenever you leave here I'm like all right what shouldn't I touch yeah oh me yeah exactly all right fair
fair but your podcast like it's like I can watch for the guest or I can watch for a country
and I know that it's a good episode where when I want to go to that place afterwards so I really
want to go to Thailand that's on my list from what column yeah and just I've always wanted to go there
but that like solidified it for me yeah and then um cubo has always been on my list and now I
definitely want to go because you heard a lot someone who actually went yeah well I mean yeah I've
just always been because we're not we're not supposed to go there yeah and people who went there
I'm like what yeah what is and now I'm like oh yeah guys you can just it's like not actually what
we were told it's just you just go it's all set up mm-hmm those two are kind of the big ones I mean
Bali would be cool.
Bali, depending where you go.
I want to do more in South Africa or South America, I mean.
I've been to Peru, but I'd like to do more.
I've said this before, but the cool thing about South Africa,
if you're going up, South America, when you go to multiple places,
you don't have to relearn the words.
Yeah, except Brazil.
But I think they might still understand it, but if you, like, get it,
like, okay, now you can cross borders and still, like, not start over,
which is nice.
Yeah.
And then here, no fucking way.
starting over every like 40 feet right yeah you should go to india that's cool i know you don't
want to the one i did with adam row made me want to go a little more even though he was like it just
smells like piss and shit everywhere because there's piss and shit everywhere it was kind of like
that old place is like an assault on all of your senses at once lots of color lots of sound
lots of smell yeah part of me would want to go and just like actually see what life is like
And another part of me is like, give me a resort with the painted up fucking towns that I'm not that at all.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That I'm like getting a version of it.
Yeah, I'm like half, half in, half out in terms of like comfort and tourism.
Yeah.
You know?
I'm just too tired to do mushrooms tonight.
I would not go stay in that green room again.
You would not.
No.
You have two luxurias now.
I would for a night, you know, but I'm not going to spend five months there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, sometimes when it's like my first day at a hustle now, I'm like, what am I doing?
like just get a hotel yeah yeah yeah but then once you get over that first few days yeah
you get no sleep then you or you get a little then you get no sleep and then you get like oh
I can sleep now yeah and then you're like I'm fine with this yeah I like a little comfort now
I feel like I've done it you know like I've proven to myself that I can handle all that and
don't really need to again that's the problem you don't need to but it is more fun yeah
sleeping on trains is pretty great yeah yeah okay so travel advice travel tips um um pack
heavy you never know what you're going to need wow do you lie have you ever heard of melanesia
versus polynesia no what the fuck is that but this is this is this is an old map right so we don't even
know i know what polynesia is i've never heard of melannesia i think that means they're darker here
australasia polymella melatonin polytonin um poly means multiple yeah nisia i don't know mella mela
I don't know.
I don't know the enough words to break it down.
Austra.
Australasia, but that's like it.
Asia, Asia.
Oh, yeah.
It's a version of Asia.
It's a version of Asia.
So Polynesia.
Mm-hmm.
Australasia.
Got it.
Mel.
What countries are this?
What's this?
Is it?
Indonesia?
No, Madagascar.
No, Madagascar.
Indonesia.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
So all this used to be kind of Asia.
Yeah.
is what I'm guessing.
Because also, like, if you're coming from there,
so England went here first.
They got here first way before us,
and then went this way.
And they're like, this must be part of Asia,
Polynesia.
So what the fuck's Melanesia?
But we broke it down now.
Micronesia, which is small islands of Asia.
Mela...
Mela...
What?
I didn't know anything.
of this what's to say uh sub region of ocean uh oceania oceania
specific ocean extends to new guinea yeah but what does the word come from melanesia
etymology why you're looking that up tell me your travel tip um i guess my main one is just
like don't be a dick to the locals like i see i've seen so many bossy tourists come in
and out of there and just like act like they're owed something.
And that's just, that's always bothered me.
When I was on a ship, I saw it all the time with those, like, rich students,
because I was there on a scholarship and like I worked on it, right?
Yeah.
But, you know, it was pricey.
So it was like a lot of rich kids just kind of being entitled in all these other places.
Just get out, talk to people, be friendly, see where that takes you, you know.
Do whatever your comfort level it is, just kind of skew it a little bit, one notch,
uncomfortable, you know?
for me it's pretty uncomfortable
but not everyone can handle that
yeah yeah don't be a dick
that's not a bad one don't be a dick to locals
yeah like even if you're upset
like be a dick to your travel friend
if you had to be a dick to somebody
um Asian ancient Greek
means
Melas means black and
nasos which means island
black island
Islands of black people is what it translates to
Papua New Guinea they're all black
Black Asia
Yeah
That's what it is
Melanin
What?
Melanin
It's black Asia
What is this
What is this one?
Indonesia
Indonesia
Indian Asia
Polynesia
Which is a lot of islands
Micronesia
Which is tiny islands
Tiny little islands
What the fuck
You see you learn
Let's bring something down
Learn on this podcast
It should just be higher
A little bit
Should be up there
Although maybe the
Maybe the indigenous here
We're kind of black
We've learned everything
is Asia and also muzzy
as a slur.
Dude, don't say fucking
muzzy, bro.
Sorry, we'll believe this.
No, no.
That's crazy what you just said
out of the blue.
Damn it.
Chad, buddy, thank you very much.
Thanks for having me.
He's a fucking world-renowned producer
here at YMH.
Yeah, yeah, this is great.
That was fun.
It was great.
Yeah.
I'm glad we finally did it, you know?
Yeah.
We were going to be talking about it for a while.
I know.
It's nice you're here.
Bumping me for the big dogs, you know.
Whatever.
You're here all the time.
It's like the Smithsonian.
It's fine.
You do.
You just don't realize that I'm a big dog and I'm just not there yet.
Hey, wait, one of these are going to go up here and one at studio in New York.
I thought you liked those.
Yeah, I do.
Which one should go here?
I mean, I could put them right here.
This is it.
Or this red one.
Which one goes better here?
I think something like that.
The red pops more than the theater.
Yeah, and this will go with other things there.
All right.
So this will go up here.
We'll tape it right here.
And then the other day you said that you like t-shirts on the road
because you're running out of shit.
It was from my education program.
I still have a bucket.
Yeah.
You still have some?
I have like a whole bucket full.
Okay.
I mean, I'll definitely use this on this road trip.
I definitely don't have enough t-shirt.
I don't never get enough to get me through.
D-C-C.
Yeah, I'll go hiking with this.
What if I run into somebody?
Like, oh, I was parts of that of that culture.
No, that would be a Kansas City person.
I was part of that.
yeah yeah i was part of that all right hell yeah buddy thank you thanks dude we'll put this up
this up right here i'll take one of these i'll take both of them back but i'll take one of them back
you're gonna go exchange those aren't you you said a dollar's coming bro how am i not gonna
russle peters wanted to give me a nice watch wants i'm like russell there's no way i'm not gonna sell
it you cannot give me that and he didn't yeah you got to stop saying no to these things
i regret i regret i wouldn't mind them sometimes i
One time somebody threw weed at Rogan at a theater.
Uh-huh.
And he was like, how funny?
And he like, he was like, what is this?
He just was never going to, and he like went to throw it back.
We were in Canada, though.
So it was before you could like get weed.
And, uh, or just on the road for like a few days.
We weren't flying with it then.
And he goes, no.
And he goes to throw it back and I run out of the side.
I go, no.
No.
Like, we need that.
All right.
Until next week, everybody.
I'm going to do it again. I'm retired. You go. You go. You give it a step. How do you say goodbye and get in the end?
Goodbye.
Okay. There's no way that's...
They speak English.
Well, that's the episode, everybody.
Thank you very much, Chad Wallin, for coming in. Well, not coming in. He was working here.
So it really just came over. He just moved to a different location in the YMH Studios.
Ghana, though. Very cool. Very cool videos and pictures. Get out there.
Been there a few times. Can you imagine?
it's so dank there it's just like dusty that's that is his pictures of of seems like what i think of
all of africa there's this article on af how to write africa oh it's such a good one um essay
how to write africa it's so good it's about how people um oh yeah here it is
By Binyavanga Wangina, Wainana.
Now, let's not use their name to replace.
Chad.
Okay, always use the word Africa or Darkness or Safari in your title.
Subtitles may include the word Zanzibar, Masai, Zulu, Zambazi, Congo, Nile, Big, Sky, Shadow, Drum, Sun, or Bygone.
And useful are words such as guerrillas, g-u-e-r, timeless, primordial, and tribal.
Note that people means Africans who are not black, while the people means black Africans.
Never have a picture of a well-adjusted African on the cover of your book or in it unless that African has won a Nobel Prize.
An AK-47, prominent ribs, naked breasts, use these.
If you must include an African, make sure you get one in Maasai or Zulu.
or Dogan dress.
In your text,
treat Africa as if it were one country.
It is hot and dusty.
This is how everybody writes about Africa at every place.
It is hot and dusty with rolling grasslands
and huge herds of animals
and tall, thin people who are starving.
Or it is hot and steamy
with very short people who eat primates.
Don't get bogged down with precise descriptions.
Africa is big.
54 countries,
900 million people who are too busy, starving and dying,
and warring and emigrating to read your book.
The continent is full of deserts, jungles, highlands, savannas, many other things,
but your reader doesn't care about all that.
So keep your description romantic, evocative, and unparticular.
Well, this goes on.
Always in your book with Nelson Mandela saying something about rainbows or renaissance
because you care.
Go get that.
Granta.com slash how slash two,
how to write out Africa.
Read the whole thing.
Thanks, Chad.
I appreciate it.
I hope you are doing great out there.
I hope you have good luck, raising money for your documentary.
Castle Boys about these guys who are outside of former slave castle in Ghana trying to jump up tourism.
Donate to them, you guys.
Click on a link right now and give a couple ducats his way to help finish this film.
And you can say you help make it when you can watch it.
You can be like, I help to make that.
Follow him on Instagram at Chad Thomas Wallin.
And that's it, yeah, yeah, good luck, man.
You should finish this video.
You should finish this movie.
It should be cool.
Everybody give them like $3, $4, $7, $10, whatever.
And you can make this fucking thing.
It's hard to make it.
It's got to go out there again.
Go to the length to support the film.
That's all you got to do, really.
It's right down there.
Also, you can go right down there below and get T-shirts from U.B.
Tripping or whatever.
T-shirts that if you eventually die, your family will
collect with all the rest of your stuff and send off to Ghana so full circle um that's it everybody
I hope you enjoy your Shroomfest talk to you later if you have a guest suggestion leave it in
the comments anything else I don't know I probably will never go to Ghana he did make it
seem very interesting but I'm scared of Africa I've seen too many videos of people burning a witch
alive. And I'm like, I don't know. I had a Wiccan stage. What if they call that up? They're like,
were you Wiccan? I'm like, I was a cutter for a little bit while I was trying to figure shit out.
And they go, yeah, we're going to burn you just to be safe. It's not worth it. You know,
Copenhagen is great restaurant. It's going to go to Ghana. But, you know, I'm not against it.
Like, if I was there, they're like, you know, sure, but it's over there. Anyway, guys,
that's the episode. Thank you very much for sitting again. Get your everything.
Until next week.
Hey, say goodbye and gone in.
I should look these up.
I'm not going to do the clicks.
No, Annie.
I'm not just going to do clicks.
That's fucking racist.
Let's see.
Oh, it actually is.
Oh, Akiri.
Oh, next week's episode is
Fidelberg.
John Fidelberg.
Oh, nice.
Okay.
Bye, everybody.
I forget we're going, but.
Thank you.