You Be Trippin' - Mongolia w/ Tom Rhodes | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir
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Is this like a wholly robed carpet thing?
Oh, you have the, on your camera.
I like that.
Is that from Peru?
No, my close, Andean.
My super, Mario, he's from El Truncal, La Truncal.
in Ecuador when I met him I was like where's your accent I just got him back he's like
Ecuador I was like oh go I live there he goes what I was like yeah like what city he told me he was
like it's a small city you wouldn't have heard of it and they finally got it out of him and I was
no I stay there overnight once on the way that's what the fuck so now every time it goes back to
Ecuador he brings this stuff cool brought me that yeah it looks Peruvian yeah same kind of
culture yeah there was a guy outside the um the Whole Foods on uh on uh Houston not Houston 14th
and he was selling all the stuff
and it looked like
it looked like that bag
and I was like
hey is this from Ecuador
he goes Peru
I was like oh look
he goes it's the same
he goes we didn't make those borders
someone else someone else did
yeah it same food too
yeah cool yeah
did you try it
I didn't just try it
I thought it was a little rubbery
I loved it
you loved it
but I will tell you sometimes
you get something
and you're like this just wasn't done well
first time I had lobster
was in the dining hall
University of Maryland
I'm like I don't like lobster
my friends are like I think you do
I think you just
had it a shitty place
Well, I used to do a joke about going to Peru, and they eat guinea pig.
Yeah.
And I tried it.
I didn't like it.
Thank God.
Wouldn't that suck if you found out you loved guinea pig?
You'd have to hang out at pet stores all the time.
They keep dying.
Maybe the wheel is too tight.
Give it, give it on the way out.
Where you've been and where you're going?
This is our race travel show.
Yeah.
We're going to talk about travel today.
It's you'll be.
Trippin
Yeah
Guys, welcome to
You Be Tripping
It's a travel podcast
Every week
They have a different
People have been everywhere
You guys
And I have them
Come in and tell them
about a place
And so we all benefit from
And I'm interested in these things
I've been to 30 something
40 something countries
I don't know
It's not a contest
It's really everyone's exciting
And today I have a guest on
That's a fucking hero
In the comedy world
On the Mount Rushmore of travel
I mean, top five easily
But I say number one
But it doesn't matter
It's not a contest
Tom Rhodes
I've been trying to get you on here
Since before the podcast even started
I love the you say
I belong on the Mount Rushmore
Of traveling comedians
I mean yeah
I don't know if I ever told you
I saw you
Maybe the first time I met you
Or one of the times
Was that early moon tower
Could have been south
But I think it was Moon Tower in Austin
Everybody moved there
And Domerera came up to you
And he goes
hey Tom, and he might not be Don, but my memories, whatever, but he goes, Tom, where are you
living now? He go, in these shoes, man. I was like, who's this guy? Yeah, I didn't live anywhere
for 10 years. I put everything into storage and I just, you know, I lived in Amsterdam for five
years. I put everything into storage when I went to Amsterdam. And then I moved back to Los Angeles
and I was living in Korea town and I was on the road half the time and I was paying rent
on a place that I, you know, was not in, because I was really starting to get, you know,
I was doing like a month in Australia every year and like a month or two in Europe, a month
in Asia.
And so I thought, why live anywhere?
So I put everything into storage.
And then back then when people would ask me, where do you live?
I would always say, in these shoes.
That's such a good response.
Yeah.
Henry Rollins had one where they go like, what are you doing here?
Because he'd go travel a lot.
And he's like, I keep getting this question.
same as you i keep getting this guy i have have an answer something cool and he goes i'm here
to meet you and it's kind of he what that's why he's there to meet some guy who was willing to talk
to him but anyway uh maybe one time we'll do a podcast about just full nomad life i wanted to ask you
some questions like you know because you know i've wanted to do this since before you started it
you told me about the concept of the the podcast and you know uh we've been friends
for a long time. We ran into each other in Jerusalem at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre,
which is just mind-blowing. A wild. I was going to a divorce December 2018, and I took my
super-Christian mother to Jerusalem for like two weeks. What better time to go to the Holy Land than when
your life is falling apart. I mean, yeah, got that Jesus thing where you think you are him.
So where Jesus was crucified, they built a church around it, and it's called the Church of the Holy
sepulchre. And we go there and we ran into you and your brother. It's nutty. What are the
chances? It's so nutty. I've got photos of us there. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, my God. If you want me to
send it to me to send it to me in there. We'll put him in there. Oh, we have a fucking full photo.
Do you want it right now or do you want to send it to you later? Because I can just go right back to
December. Oh my God. Yeah, I was my brother and he was going to this spot where Jesus was
yeah that's the spot so it's under that table and the guys who look after it the i don't know what
they're they're oh my god they're like they're these black robes and black hats and these long beards
and they are the biggest like jesus's whole message was kindness and like the biggest i'm not sure
it is anymore not not according to these and they're swinging their fucking their incense thing and
they hate tourists they like gather and they swing them extra hard to intentionally bash somebody
They come through like their once or twice a day
With some kind of procession
And they just like
They elbow people out of the way
Just total cox
So my brother was in line of this thing
In the center there or whatever
And that's where I don't know
You walk through
Jesus is in there or something
I don't know
He's giving out fucking candy on New Year's
But but my brother was like
I went in yesterday
I went back to my old yeshiva
And he was I went yesterday
I'll wait in line for you
Why don't you walk around
And look at everything
And
And because when we grew up
We were in Israel for a seminary
We're like we never went to the Christian quarter
And my brother was like
Hey, we're adults now
Let's look at all the other three parts of Jerusalem
And so we're walking around
I can't go too deep into the era
But like
We're walking around
It's so fucking cool
And then I turned a corner
And who do I see
But fucking
Traveler man
Tommy, you're just like Ari
I'm like wait
What?
What?
It doesn't even make sense
It's unbelievable
And you know we had a story about that
we kept going back to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.
You and your mama?
My mom, yeah.
Because, you know, we did the tour.
We saw, you know, where Jesus spent the night in jail and all these things, you know, where he drags the cross.
And anyhow, you got it, you don't got it.
We kept seeing this guy.
So for years I had heard about the Jerusalem syndrome.
The very faithful Christians, often when they go to Jerusalem, they're overcome with what is
called the Jerusalem syndrome where
they think they are
a figure from the Bible. Because it's so
spiritual. And it's so powerful.
So I might
have to find this. Yeah, they'll send it to me later.
They'll lay it up.
So, you know,
I remember when I first, there was a story I read
years ago about the
the
psychiatrists who treat these people.
That one day he had
two Jesuses. And
he said, look, I'm
going to leave both of you in this room for an hour, and I'm going to come back, and then you need
to decide which one's the real Savior. So when we were there at the Church of the Holy
Sepulchre, we see this guy, and I knew he was an American guy, and he's wearing a robe. He's dressed
like Jesus. He had a beard, and I kept thinking, okay, this dude is one of the, he's got to Jerusalem
syndrome. He thinks he's Jesus. And I know it's an American guy. So, you know, the, the, the
ancient city of Jerusalem is tiny. So we were staying right outside of the walls of the ancient
city. So, you know, every day we would find ourselves going back there and every day we would see
this guy. So I kept calling him fake Jesus. Hey, mom, look, there's fake Jesus again. And then it was
like kind of our joke. Like, hey, look, there's crazy guy, you know, fake Jesus. And then on the last day
we were there, we had our flight was like 11 p.m. And we had like the one last day to stroll
around Jerusalem. So we go, let's go back to the, you know, Church of the Holy Sepulchre. And it was
really crowded with these like American church groups. And this fake Jesus is, he's got his back
against the wall. He's sitting on the ground and he's got his head down. And there's a American
church group coming through and this woman has got like, you know, a stick with a little flag on it,
like, you know, follow me on the leader, right? And she's walking by and she mocks the guy.
No.
She leans down.
This is a little American church group.
Yeah.
She goes, so can you do miracles too?
Oh, what a dick.
And fake Jesus guy.
He lifts his head up and he says,
only Jesus can do miracles.
The real miracle is when a bad person becomes a good person.
And that was the most profound.
And then the woman like shrugged and walked on.
Not shrugged.
She should have been like, fuck.
That was the most profound thing I heard the entire time I was in Jerusalem.
And this guy wasn't crazy at all.
And so, like, they go on and then I introduce myself to him.
Hey, man, we've seen you a few times.
We've been here for, like, 10 days.
And the guy's name was Steve.
He was from Detroit.
He's like an investment banker type person.
And his business has been very well.
and he's really Christian
and every couple of years
he likes to go to Jerusalem
and just walk in the steps
and live like his hero
and live like his hero.
Yeah, it's like if I could.
I thought the guy was crazy
and he turned out to be probably
the most sane person
in all of Jerusalem.
Wow.
Yeah, just because he's dressed like Jesus
he's like, I don't think I am.
The real miracle is when a bad person
becomes a good person.
Boom.
Yeah, I was wild
You know, I was gonna buy
Well, I've never said it on here
But I told you already
I was there and I was like, I gotta go buy
Like a Steve Simone, our buddy
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
He's my favorite Christian friend
No offense is Joe Rogan
Am I second?
No, you're not Christian enough to be on there
You fuck
But you do, when you take the cross
Because we did that too
I said I'm gonna get a bumper sticker for him
Or a fridge magnet for him
And you're like, fridge magnet.
Yeah.
And I was like, well, something for the, get him across.
Yeah, get him across.
And I go, do they sell them around here?
And you're like, bro.
You were just like, I was such a rookie.
And we heard about this when we were there.
And so we did it.
And you got one for Steve also.
So you get a cross.
And then in the church of the Holy Sepulchre, there's a stone slab on the ground.
And it's actually where they took Jesus's body off of the cross.
And they cleaned his body in like the Jewish right.
someone dies right so supposedly this stone slab has got real serious Jesus power on it yeah so
when you go to Jerusalem you buy a cross and then you put it on this it's like charging up your
iPhone basically that's what it is these people all doing that here you put your cross on on the
slab where Jesus's body was cleaned and i have one it's it's hanging on my my wall
greek orthodox women and all the black just just weeping just weeping touching it weeping it's like
And there's no fake in it.
They're crying.
Yeah.
And so I charged it up.
Yeah.
And I've talked to Steve about it.
You know, that's, it's not just a cross.
You know, it's a cross that's got the energy of.
There's a little piece of dirt that they have that little window in the middle of it.
So some have it, some don't.
You don't need it.
Well, but it's symbolic.
There's some that are like this or some that are up ornate.
There's these little windows on the, on the, and it's got like herbs from, from,
the Holy Land and there's like flower
pieces. There's some dirt and there's some dirt
and yeah. So I gave it
to him. He loved it. You were 100%
right. That was exactly what he'd want.
I'm like, I brought this from Jerusalem. No way.
Even more than Jerusalem. Yeah. I put it on the slab
but then he was like, what?
Yeah. And I gave you the idea.
Yeah. It gets better.
So his mom and dad
were living in Florida. They got COVID
and they got it bad. This was
2020. They got it bad.
And got to the point where the doctor
was like hey tell your brother come
home from Pennsylvania
and say goodbye like they're not
they're not making it yeah
so right then they had some new treatment
called monoclonal antibodies whatever
but Steve and it was like it's still
like it might be too late
she's you know they're old
and they love pasta
so two possible problems
so he gives him the cross
gives him the cross turn around
everything turned around she goes
Ari saved me
So it was...
It was you.
I saved his parents.
And I said, listen, if I'm the one who saved you and if you're the one who saved you,
then you got to give some credit to Jesus.
Yeah.
If we saved, you got to give some credit to the man.
But that's interesting that you say that because, you know,
I bought crosses for all the, you know, Christians in my life and put it on the slab.
But I had an extra one.
And the beautiful cross that I got, the one that you're describing with the little windows
and the elements of the Holy Land.
in the little holes.
Yeah.
I had an extra one.
And that woman I was telling you about earlier
that had the mental breakdown.
Yeah.
I gave her the extra one.
Kamala Harris.
Yes.
When you were fucking her for a while?
Yeah.
Well, it was right after her
and Willie Brown broke up.
So she was in an emotional,
she was in a really,
she was in a tender spot.
But for real, it helped this one out.
She was like, that's cool.
It is cool.
She was just grateful I didn't wear a hat.
There's this book there,
souvenir, Rolf Potts.
And he talks about,
how the difference between like going to the Eiffel Tower
and getting a little Eiffel, like something like this.
Yeah.
But like getting that, it's like, it's made in China.
So why can't you just order it when you get home from China?
Yeah.
Like, it has to have been there.
There's more power to it if you're animus.
Well, on those crosses, to put it on the slab.
That's the thing.
Hi, everybody.
Ari Shafir here to tell you a little bit about the guest
on today's episode, Mr. Tom Rose,
traveler number one in stand-up comedy.
I'm pretending on my phone.
I'm really not, only because it's embarrassing
to do this in public.
I have to pretend like I'm on something for a little while later.
When I do Tom's dates, I'm going to take it away.
He rules, guys.
I know I've said this before on this podcast and probably the defunct skeptic tank podcast,
but the first time I ever saw him was at the Moon Tower Comedy Festival,
and Don Marrera went up to him.
And he goes, I didn't know him.
I just knew him from his old TV show.
He goes, Tom, where are you living now?
Tom goes, in these shoes, man.
Who's that cool?
I mean, legitimately, who's that cool?
Let me tell you a little about Tom and his dates
and everything he's got going on
so you can follow him and keep up with him
because legitimately, he is the number one traveler in comedy.
His podcast, Tom Rhodes Smart Camp,
it's up right now, it's on YouTube,
Tom Rhodes Comedy.
It's a new special, The Ripest Zebras out right now.
And that album that we end up talking about in this episode
called Around the World,
where he does bits about,
every single place he's been in those places some multiple times it's pretty
pretty interesting and hilarious too I've heard a lot of it I don't know if I
heard the whole thing but I think I have he's also on the road you get tickets at
tom roads dot net he's in Galway tonight Fort Worth Sacramento Orlando Las
Vegas Hawaii Albuquerque Austin Texas Houston Texas go to tomroads.net for all
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playing cards yarmikas all that and more go to ari shapir dot com for everything let's get back
to the episode mongolia's one of the coolest places i've always wanted to go and i want to get back to
and hear more about it this is a nominee for pictures of the year um whatever
nominees you have please uh put them in the comments below everybody do your part say i think this
should be a I don't even know what the categories are so I need your help that's food
we're sex best sex uh toilet situations best trip worst trip best guest and that's it I
don't know about you guys but me Vota as poor Jose Ayala Jose Ayala as part too all right
let's get back to the episode but the questions I wanted to ask you about traveling
because of you know thinking about oh one day you and I are going to finally sit down
there was something like do you have a brand of luggage that you use it's a great question
I had because through the years yeah you know I've a very studied educated opinion of
of of of of of luggage so I was wondering what you were I had in Asia and all and since until
now it's breaking down the Osprey Fairview or Far Point I forget it's got a detachable daybag
okay so you like the back you like the backpack there's roller bag people and there's backpack
people and I'm a backpack person going like this versus pulling a bag so you get to a cobblestone street
or going up steps yeah oh blows I'm a backpack person it's fine I'm a I'm a garment bag with wheels
on it yeah I like to me to me it's very expensive too me luggage and they make one that's a garment
bag that folds over and they're really expensive bags really so the first time because I used
that's hard you can bring your vinyl
back, which is a big thing.
Yeah.
For years, I used Travel Pro, and they were great, and those would last about five years.
And then something changed in them about 15, 20 years ago.
And then their bags only lasted like two years and really cheap quality.
So I would never get them again.
So it was about 12 years ago.
I was still married, and I got this Toomey bag.
and they'll put your name on it also
Oh really?
Yeah
Yeah
No there's just little tags
If you're
Um
They'll put on it
Anyway
The bag was like this
12 years ago
It was like a thousand bucks
And my wife
I'm now divorced
But she was like
There's no way
You have $1,000 for luggage
That is crazy
That is crazy
Right
That's crazy
So I actually bought the bag
In Canada
And for Canadian dollars
It was like 1,300
So I
I was snowed in in Switzerland.
I did this Switzerland tour.
Brilliant tour.
It no longer exists, but I did it three times.
You would do Geneva, Lusan, Basel, and then Zurich.
And I was snowed in in Basel for like three extra days.
It was like a week before Christmas.
Finally, I get out of there, fly back to Amsterdam, and the bag was ripped.
And the airline, KLM, through Delta, because I had.
bought it through Delta, Delta is my airline.
They said, we will replace the bag if you have the receipt.
And I had the, miraculously, I had the receipt.
Really big, like a computer is like those kind of receipts, I'll save, you know.
That's great.
When they save you have their receipt knowing you want.
So it was 1,300 Canadian.
I sent them the thing.
They must not have looked at it.
They sent me, so I had the bag for 10 years.
And they sent you 1,300 U.S.
So my now ex-wife, I told her, I go, you know, not only was it smart, I made, I had the bag for 10 years and then I made $300.
That's great.
So I got a new one, and now they're like 1,500.
Wow.
But the bag will last you for 10 years.
I mean, now you're on the Mount Rushmore of Jews.
Yeah.
This day, this J just keeps getting better.
Yeah, this is detachment, but the new one, it doesn't.
doesn't zip up, it just sag.
So I got to get one right now, actually.
Okay, since we're on the Christian tip.
I got this in Rome, the Vatican gift shop.
Yeah.
And then this is like the patron saint of comedians.
No way.
Yeah.
What's his name?
It's really small on there.
The silver one.
He's the patron saint of comedians.
And actors, I believe.
The silver one.
Yeah.
What did it say?
On the back?
No, no.
It's got his name on it.
for us. Oh, does it really?
Really small on the side. Can you see it?
St. Genius.
St. Genius.
St. Genius. That's it.
Genesius.
Genesius.
Genesius. That's it.
That's cool.
Damn, this came in handy now.
All right, where are we going today, Tom?
Okay. Our last travel question.
Oh, okay.
What are your favorite hotel pool, swimming pools?
Of all time?
when I hear the word favorite
I've already decided
get the word favorite out of your mind
and just go name me something you like
because I always get like
whoa what's the favorite
like what's your top couple
there's a pool
in in CM Reap
that we got in at the hostel
it's a hostel and everyone just was out
and I hadn't hung with like other people
in like a week or two
and I get in there
and everyone's chilling by the pool
and it was just sofa wasn't even a good deep one
but man it was so friendly
and inviting and it was like new
people going come on
and just just hang it was very very nice later that night
some fucking idiot German were just like
turn the lights on to the hostel and wake everybody up
and just like I'm like hey he goes oh where are you from
I'm like shut up
but um I like that one
I never stay in hostels that's funny that you do
I love him
so your favorite pools
one time in Thailand me and Pete
stayed in one we got like it was one of those like let's go four star for like 40 bucks a night and we
had us great pool and that was one day and at 12 in our place Thailand has some great what do you got
my favorite hotel swimming pool is the buenos aires marriot so the center of the city is the
symbol of buenos Aires is the obelisk obelisco in espional okay and on the roof of the marriot which is
overlooks the obelisco,
which is, you know,
it's the Eiffel Tower of Buenos Aires.
And it's half indoor.
You know, it's all,
it's indoor, but there's like an outdoor section.
There it is.
Yeah.
Wow.
This is my favorite.
Oh, that's the pool? This is it.
Wow.
And this is perfect, too.
Because to go up there at the end of the day,
you see the light.
This is like the sun's starting to go down.
Wow.
this is the greatest hotels
that rules
oh you didn't
does it go further
no
okay
I'll get it to another one
yeah
this is it
wow
and then so to the right there
is like an outdoor
area area
and there's kind of like a jacuzzi thing
yeah this is it
this is my favorite
I'm marking this buddy
so the first
one of the first times I went to Blanisari
is my mother's
from Buenos Aires and I have cousins there.
Yeah.
I like going down there in our winter.
It's their summer.
And I stayed at a really cool boutique hotel
in Palermo, Soho.
And it was so hot and the place didn't have a pool.
And I said, is there anywhere where we can go swimming?
And they said, yeah, you can get a day pass
at the Marriott for like 20 bucks.
Now it's probably like,
25 bucks yeah and you can go up to even if you're not staying there you can spend the day there
yeah this is a better this is a better video they're going in it of it yeah and it's a you know
it's also a spa so you can there's a bar there and there's a little spa can you go if you're not
staying there that's what I'm saying you can buy a day pass oh you can that's what I was just
explaining I had stated a so focused on the pictures I wasn't yeah yeah yeah I was the first time
I went there I was staying at a different hotel and they said you can go there
and get a day pass and that was like 20 bucks at the time there's a jacuzzi yeah that's the outdoor
oh my god what it looks it looks out on the whole city um uh their famous like the madison score
garden of of buenosare's um teatro some messy fucking made a name for himself or indoor yeah anyway
so that's that's that's my favorite hotel swimming pool my second that's the obelisco okay my
second favorite hotel swimming pool yeah let's look this one up uh is the banion tree
hotel in bangkok i always tell everyone you just told me about yeah but you didn't get into
it's my number one recommendation for uh and i just stayed there for the first like the marriott too
the first time i went to this place i had just gone on the roof that's it wow there's one up
there on the roof down on the lower level is is where the pool is okay
But on the roof, it's got the greatest view of Bangkok.
There's a restaurant and bar on the roof.
And so I always tell people go up there like an hour before sunset and then, you know, get a bottle of wine or a meal.
The restaurant's a little pricey.
It's the greatest view.
Wow.
It's the greatest view of Bangkok.
And to watch the sunset there is great.
So the pool is on a lower level.
and it's got two little waterfalls
but it's on a roof itself
yeah that's the roof bar restaurant
the cool thing about pancake when we were leaving
we saw all these like ads for like apartments
and me and Pete were like dude for 20 grand
we could have a sick place in like the 30th floor
I went to Chang Mai for the first time last August
first time you can't see this pool the pool
going to get there. It's going to have something for sure. You went to Chiang Mai. So there's a,
so I did shows. I played at the Marriott in Chang Mai and there's a comedian that, that's it.
There's a comedian that opened up for me. See on the left and the right. Yeah. On the top,
there's like little, this kind of waterfall spout. It's such a lovely pool. And it's only like
five feet deep, something like that. Enough to, and a hot Bangkok day. So, uh,
Adam Palman.
Palmitter.
Okay.
He's a stand-up comedian.
I met him in Seoul, Korea, like 15, 20 years ago.
And he now lives in Chiang Mai.
He's a muralist and a stand-up comedian.
And so I stayed up there for three extra days in Chiang Mai.
I had never been, and he showed me around.
And he took me, he has an apartment.
Beautiful two-bedroom place, and it's $800 a month.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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and you know the food in
Thailand especially in
Chiang Mai you've got Cal soy
and all these these curry
noodle dishes that are not
in the rest of Thailand and
it's weird because it's like that's like
so it's up near China
it's up near Burma and this is all
near Malaysia so it's like changes
it's like a different thing
you get the curry
from India to come over and it's like it's like a dollar dollar 50 on the street it's
it's like you have to do the math you're like wait how much was this meal like i did the math
wrong i must have not carried a one yeah yeah okay those were my questions okay good questions
good leaving questions i like it where we going today what are we doing i was curious what your
favorite hotel swimming pool was i mean it's now it's reminding me of like this is a good theme episode
The temples of Angkor were amazing, but I did not, again, I stayed in a hotel.
And like Bangkok, I was telling you, I had always done, I had always been on a budget.
And so I had gone to the banyan tree hotel, but the last time I went, I stayed an extra week and I thought I'm going to splurge and stay at the banyan tree.
And same with the Marriott and Buenos Aires.
I like to sneak in.
I like the going, asking like you're looking for someone and having a different hotel key and then just like, just like,
hold that there for me and then just like kind of go in I did it the other day at the
what's that park a past the stand north of the stand right park
Gramercy Park where you have to have a place that around it oh yeah you got to
get in yeah so I saw somebody coming out and I just took my keys and went like this
and I was like oh hold it it's just like as if I was about and they held it for me
it's like the bit you did on your last special about being able to steal because you're
white privilege yeah I look like I could have had a place my dad could have had a place
But different pools is good.
It reminds me of other ones in Bangkok, too, that I was at with Pete.
I was like, just laying there in a pool in that kind of heat.
And you're like, I'm going to go in, dry right off, go in, dry right off.
Be a good thing.
Well, you know, I grew up in Florida.
So the first women I ever kissed was after swimming in pools.
So to this day, the smell of chlorine on a woman drives me crazy.
It's hot.
Yeah.
That's funny.
All right.
Mongolia.
This is no one else I know has been there.
It's also one of the most intriguing places.
Since you told me about it the first time, maybe a decade ago, I've been there twice now.
I've got to get there.
You do.
Mongolia is so special.
You were like, there's a gig.
It's so unique.
And there's an amazing club in Ulaan Batar.
So people in Ulaan Batar refer to it as UB.C. City.
Oh, that's funny.
So the name of the comedy club in Ulaan Bitar is UB City Comedy Club.
So there's one street in Ulam, and I had heard about this gig.
They had reached out to me, and, you know, there used to be great gig,
English language gigs in China.
Now they, those were all murdered about seven, eight years ago.
They drove out foreign businesses and shut down those English language comedy shows.
But, you know, it's like a two or three hour flight from Beijing, and you can also
get there from Korea.
It seems like a cool spot.
It is a proper.
Wow.
Brilliant comedy club.
I mean, it's like, look, it's like Caroline's on Broadway used to be.
Wow.
So there's this, you know, every city has got like,
shut up.
Every city's got like the one cool street with like the great restaurants and bars on it.
Uh-huh.
So this club, it's like a four.
It's on that street.
It's like a four-story building.
It's not what I picture.
right here, Mongolia, that outfit
and this level of electricity. It's like a
four-story building. Yeah.
This guy, Bata.
Uh-huh. It's his club.
His mother is a dentist.
The club is like on the third floor of this building.
His mother's a dentist.
And her dentist office is on the,
yeah, this is the building. It's, look at that
wrought iron. It looks like it could be in New Orleans.
Yeah.
So the top floor is his mother's dentist office.
And so it's really like this family vibe.
And there's so grateful and generous that you're there.
I mean, just Mongolians in general that if you would go there on vacation,
people are just so kind and wonderful.
But I've been there twice and his mother has cleaned my teeth for free.
No way.
So like if you perform there, they'll also, his mom will also take a look at your chappers.
That's like those old Alaska gig.
He's like, we can fish and if long as you come up here.
Like, okay.
Yeah, or you're a fucking festival gig where you're like, we're giving a passes.
It's such a cool, like, you know, I remember people used to say to me when I would, you know, I played in China like, I don't know, 10 times.
Yeah.
You know, I played in Beijing five times.
I've played in Shanghai eight or nine times.
I remember friends of mine used to ask me, you know, how is it possible for you to perform in China?
Yeah.
I said, well, it's difficult because I don't speak Mandarin.
So what I do is I put a rake on the stage and I walk out and I step on the rick and it hits me in the balls.
And the Chinese people think it's hilarious.
But I have to do it over and over.
It's a really long hour for me.
That's so stupid.
But all jokes aside, when you play Beijing, when you play Tokyo, you've seen this.
Paris, Berlin is the same.
It'll be half the audience will be English-speaking expatriates, and then the other half will be locals, like in China or Thailand or Japan, and people that were either educated or grew up in English-speaking countries, and they love English-language comedy.
So usually it's half and half.
Mongolia is not like this.
Mongolia, it was like 100% Mongolian audience.
Wow.
I remember there was like one guy from Wisconsin.
and one woman from Australia.
Who happened to be there,
they were like, let's see a show.
You know, I did like a weekend of shows twice.
And there was only like a couple of non-Mongolians
in the audience.
They speak English?
They all speak English.
And just the greatest laughers.
And, um...
What else do they speak?
Mongolian?
Mongolian.
Is that a mixture?
Is that, I'm guessing here.
A mixture of Russian and Chinese?
Well, or not even.
Let me just say this.
I think Mongolian people are among,
the most attractive people on the planet earth who's the least attractive i have the right answer
burmese i've never been there don't really yeah i mean it loved it but mongolian people
you'll see this in a lot of korean people too uh and then i was in vietnam um in march just
they really look see the there's there's the guy if you scroll down yeah that's no no back up
the other way see that's that's that's batta on oh no that's batta on the on the on my
right, the left in the white shirt. That's Bata. He owns the club. He's the comic. Yeah, he's
really an awesome dude. And he's really into shamanism and spiritualism. This is more what I
picture about Mongolia. This is Zolo. So Bata and Zolo. They're both comedians and they're both
great. So Mongolians have these really high cheekbones that I think make them like really
attractive. So Mongolia is between China and Russia. Yeah. So I think the
you know, that's basically, you know, how Mongolian people look.
They really have this striking.
I mean, it's weird to say this when there's pictures of men on the screen.
But the women, I find strikingly beautiful.
And if I owned a modeling agency, I think I would only have Mongolian models.
That's funny because Mongol and Mongoloid used to be the term for,
Down syndrome.
Yeah, and I think that they used to, the uneducated whites of Europe,
one of the theories of Down syndrome was that one of your ancestors had been raped
by a Mongolian soldier is where Mongoloid comes from, if I'm not mistaken.
I mean, you do have some hot ones.
You do have some decent, hot ones.
Yeah, now I would, if I had a modeling agency,
See, I think it would also hire women from Senegal and Cameroon and...
Yeah, you're into the...
N.J. They used to call it in college.
What did it?
They used to call it in college, NJ.
What's that?
Something juice.
It wasn't my term. It was black people's term.
I can't say it, but...
Interesting. Interesting.
Well, you should do this gig.
So, I mean, it's a...
As you can see, it's a proper...
It's a proper comedy club.
Okay.
A lot of, you know, a lot of those international gigs for years,
which a lot of them would just be in like bars or jazz clubs,
music venue type places.
But, and what's,
Bata loves comedy.
They studied it.
They've really designed like the perfect stage.
It's this great intimate room.
I think it holds probably, you know, like 150.
So you fly into Ulambateur.
Yeah.
And what's this compared to the rest of the country?
It's like regular big city life?
It's the biggest city.
Yeah.
It's the biggest.
I'm saying is it built up?
Is it dingy?
Is it poor?
No.
You know, it was under Russian occupation for years.
Okay.
So they weren't even allowed to study their own history.
The Russians wouldn't let them honor and celebrate Genghis Khan and the ancient Mongolian warriors.
But after the collapse of the Soviet Union, they got their independence.
And really, there's a beautiful history there.
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So they've really embraced it.
It's, it's cleanish.
I mean, some of the areas are under development,
like the bottom of the screen there,
but, um, no, man, it's, it's wonderful.
And the monuments will make you tingle.
Like, like this guy, I guess.
what are they monuments too these warriors ancient Mongolian warriors
look at the difference in the old and I told you I read Genghis Khan's and it's
Changus Khan Changus is how they pronounce it you read his book there or not his book
but it's basically his his autobiography and um you want to read you that yeah that thing
yeah can you read it from there because this is from I highlight all the books that I read
Oh, yeah, this is better.
So this is from Changis Khan in the making of the modern world.
Page 91, if you're looking at home.
Warriors everywhere have been taught to die for their leader,
but Changis Khan never asked his men to die for him.
Above all else, he waged war with this strategic purpose in mind
to preserve Mongol life.
Unlike other generals and emperors in history,
who easily ordered hundreds of thousands
of soldiers to their death,
Changis Khan never willingly
sacrificed a single one.
The most important rules
that he created for his army
concerned the loss of soldiers.
On and off the battlefield,
the Mongol warrior
was forbidden to speak of death,
injury, or defeat.
Just to think of it
might make it happen.
Even mentioning the name of a fallen
comrade or other dead warrior
constituted a serious tab.
Abu. Every Mongol soldier had to live his life as a warrior with the assumption that he
was immortal. What? That no one could defeat him or harm him, that nothing could kill him.
At the last moment of life when all had failed and no hope remained, the Mongol warrior was
supposed to look upward and beckon his fate by calling out the name of the eternal blue sky.
the eternal blue sky is what they called heaven or god the spiritual nature god energy
call out the name of the eternal blue sky as his final earthly words
in fighting on the step the nomads left the corpses of fallen soldiers
and their possessions on the field to be disposed of by animals and to decompose naturally
they wouldn't even bury people just out of respect that that's the elements you know
that you
it's almost sacred
to leave someone like that
instead of like
hey man
he had a nice watch
and scroll down that last
the Mongols did not find
honor in fighting
they found honor in winning
they had a single goal
in every campaign
total victory
wow you're right
that Kimberly applied to comedy
yeah
to never talk about bombing
or dying
or something not working
that
to see yourself as immortal and you know you're um you're sacred total victory and even when they
didn't get it someone they did die they're saying but it's just like we don't really prepare for it
yeah wow so is him is he everywhere yeah like the spirit of him yeah yeah i think it's changus con
international airport you see a big uh mural of him when you arrive it's so cool because we're
When you grow up as a kid in America, you hear about Genghis Khan, you're like, just some badass old warrior on a horseback.
Well, then you find out about the...
Gangiscom was, I'll tell you...
Extracurriculars.
Incredible.
So his wife, his mom...
Yeah.
You want to learn...
You're ready to learn some stuff?
Yeah, absolutely.
So he...
They call it the steps.
You know, it's like kind of the plateaus leading up to the mountains, which...
Okay.
When you go to Mongolia and you go out into the country, you can see the...
You know, it's kind of the, so he grew up way out in the steps.
His mother had been kidnapped at one point.
He had an older brother, I think, from a different father.
It's been a long time since I read the book.
And then his mom came back, blah-d-de-blah, but, you know, the oldest son was the one that got everything.
and his older brother was
an asshole
and treated him like shit
like if he was fishing
he's a little kid
and his asshole older brother
would come and take his fish from him
and just
was an asshole older brother
yeah I know the type
I'm that type
Changus Khan when he was like 12
hunted his brother
no
what
snuck up on him, unlike me, hunted him, and came on him and killed him with an arrow.
And this is an important thing in Jenghis Khan's life because the thing with Chenghis Khan in his history
was he never recognized titles because the oldest brother got everything, right?
And that's just the way many cultures were.
The oldest brother, the oldest boy is honored and so you had to have, it was a maritime.
with him. So if you were like a religious leader or like a king, he recognized none of that.
He only recognized people for the talent that they had to give, their own personal value.
And that's why anyone, and then they, you know, they would conquer nations and they would
incorporate the technology. Like they were probably the first people to, and I think they were
the first to invent handguns because in conquering different parts of China, they had, you know,
little canons were used.
So then they took these people who knew whoever they conquered, they would take all their
experts, all their artisans, and like they would learn from them and study.
So like they were like the first ones, I think to invent like kind of, you know, handheld
cannons, little handguns and stuff.
So I think that's a really cool, interesting fact about him that he didn't recognize.
like they'd conquer like a they'd conquer a kingdom and like the religious people because it was just the etiquette like hey we're the top religious people or hey we're the royalty we're the nobability supposed to leave us alone and he just like no fuck that kill kill them all and uh he would only keep you know the ones that um had personal value that could teach them something
when you hear about something like when he was old when he was 12 he killed his brother that sounds like a made up story about a fake character
you know that doesn't exist it's like it's like the scorpion and the frog kind of shit
but they're like no no this guy existed and he did this yeah it's just like hard to
it's remarkable and then he was they were the first to invent a passport because they had conquered
so much land he had the he would give out these uh it was kind of a slab with his his stamp on it
and if you were you know and so if you didn't recognize someone he had given the passport to
and give them safe passage, you would be in trouble.
They got all the way to Germany.
Yeah, and then they turned around.
They could have conquered...
I mean, I'm just going to keep going back here until we see how far they go.
So, I mean, I might be slightly wrong, but the thing that I always say, you know, people are, oh, Genghis Khan.
Like, it's funny, I posted a photo.
Wow.
They conquered, look at that, all the way to Germany.
Do they go east also?
And they got to, the Europeans lived in terror.
It's just the thought
Of him coming across here
And they heard stories
They were probably like 20 years behind
Of shit that they had done
Like there was one
They conquered
I forget where it was
But they conquered some
Area
Maybe it was in
Maybe it was in China
And
I think they got all they got it
To Iran and Pakistan
There was some woman
Some old woman
Who like swallowed
Her pearls
Or a pearl
like kind of in defiance
and they cut her open to pull the pearl out
and then they decided to cut open everyone else
in this village to see if they had like
cut them all
yeah so they didn't
like damn it they didn't fuck around
but it's funny
he you know he
he created a lot of civilization
I'll tell you what I think is the best thing about him in a minute
but but I mean he's pretty ruthless
killer. I had posted something. Oh, during the pandemic, I was making these LA history videos.
So I did one on Tupac Shakur. Okay. And some guy commented, he said, um, Tupac Chacore was a killer.
Who else? Who else are your heroes? Gangas Khan? I was like, well, I didn't answer the guy.
Bro. Oh my God. You know about Gagas? Yeah. With this guy. Yeah, there you go. See, I did one on Bukowski,
one on, uh. What did you go to, what's that place called just south of the
comedy store that Barney's Beanery where they won't service you at in any way and
Bukowski's to hang out there and he would complain about the service of Barney's
beanery and then 30 years later it's not gotten better Jim Morrison used to hang out there too
really yeah I did one in the lowrider culture of Los Angeles and one on Tupac so
um wow anyway I might be slightly wrong on this but you know so people say you know
Genghis Khan was this ruthless killer, which, you know, you can't argue that.
But he did introduce many incredible things to the civilized world.
And I personally, I might be wrong, I think Genghis Khan gave the world pants and ice cream.
Ice cream.
Because before Genghis Khan, European men all wore robes.
And they didn't have pockets.
All men had like little satchels and like if you were a map guy or whatever, you had like a special map purse or whatever your thing is.
You had like special bags and you know, you had a robe and your balls were flopping around.
The Mongolian warriors were on horseback and wore pants.
And so I personally think that it was they introduced pants to the Western world.
And then Marco Polo took back to Italy the recipe for ice cream.
So the
Ration
The daily ration for the Mongol warrior
was this kind of dairy curd
and they would put it underneath their
saddles of their horses
and so it's freezing extreme temperatures
so they're riding
and the constant pounding of the saddle
and the freezing temperatures
made something kind of
Kind of like ice cream.
And then there was another element to it that Marco Polo took this recipe back to Italy.
And that's how the world got ice cream.
So this is my, you know, I might be slightly off, but I, in my opinion.
Okay.
Mongolia gave the world pants and ice cream.
And you know what?
You can forgive them for cutting open a village looking for pearls in their stories.
Because ice cream is pretty wonderful.
When was he?
1,300s.
Okay.
So, there's one photo of me, like, sipping out of some wooden bowl.
Yeah, that's that.
I have not drank alcohol in 11 years.
Is it one of these?
No.
No, no, there you.
Oh, boom.
I've not drank alcohol in 11 years.
I busted my head open in Philadelphia.
You know that story.
I got this.
beautiful scar
which blends in with my wrinkles
nicely.
And this is alcoholic?
So this was
this is the
I've only had one sip of alcohol
I've got to sharp that lineup in 11 years
and this was the moment
I just wanted to try it
because Changas Khan's
favorite beverage
was fermented mares milk
this is milk
fermented mare's milk
fermented mares milk what's the mare
a horse but what's the milk
just oh just milk from a horse
yeah fermented
so this was his favorite beverage
so while I was in Mongolia
I wanted to try it
but I haven't this is so I haven't drank
and I still have no desire to drink but I
so I just and I just took
this little
light little sip off of the
top of it, just to see what it
tastes like. And? It tastes
like if you dropped a shot
of scotch into a glass
of milk, it's disgusting.
But I tried it.
But I tried it.
Wow. And they just serve this in
bars? No, this is a restaurant.
So it's just in a restaurant?
Yeah, it's a...
Right, it's not like some village, like let me show you some
Mallorts or like, you know that fucking version.
It's on the menu. Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Hey, and let me just say, like, when you go to Chinese restaurants in America,
and it says Mongolian beef, it's nothing like, Mongolian beef is incredible.
I mean, it's worth flying there just to, when you get Mongolian beef in Mongolia,
you're like, with those people.
What is it?
What do you mean?
What's the difference?
It's just.
Same recipe?
No.
It's nothing like you see in, in, you know,
on the menu in Chinese restaurants in America
when it says Mongolian beef
it's like
they're like
it's like
just succulent
delicious
oh really
top quality
is it the same type of recipe
I mean there's no recipe it's
so why do they call Mongolian beef
I don't know I mean like you know they've
you know I don't think they're eating
orange chicken in China either
you know it's just covered with some kind of
the american ones are always like sweetened up yeah um
tom sawyer from uh what's it called the san francisco took us out once to dea's like i want some
authentic chinese food but i want the authentic kind of and he goes okay and then we're sitting
there it's he's like i know the play and then dia's just sitting there kind of playing with
his food and what's the matter goes it's just too authentic it's just looking back at me and i don't
want these I don't want these eyeballs in this crawfish that reminds me when you were you were
playing at cobs one time in San Francisco and I remember I was playing at the punchline and I went over
to meet you and it was after your show and all these these people were this is years ago it's
like right when you were you were starting to get like going you're starting to get like a
big following okay and and you and I were outside and all these like fans of yours came up and
gave you were giving you weed and I was like holy shit Ari this is that's beautiful
And you go, yeah, I keep saying on my podcast, I love weed.
So people will keep coming up giving me weed.
And you go, you go, maybe I should say I love Mercedes.
I thought that was so funny.
But I found this in my apartment before we came.
And back then.
Griner, that's the big one.
That's the original one.
Wow.
You still sell these?
Yeah, I got smaller with that with different logos on it.
Is the original?
That's the original.
Let me see how big that one is.
That's the right size.
Yeah.
Oh, it's been used.
it's still be i still use it oh i love that it's been places like how burned out it is and
everything yeah yeah i had to make these in india because nobody in fucking america they just go
we can make you bob marley ones i'm like i don't want a bob marley one i want a personalized one
they go nah they're great it's all i use too is my own grinder that's awesome
so i think of you every day is what i'm saying that's nice so um back to mongolia so these
guys, Bata
and Zolo and the local comedy
scene. Yeah. I mean, and these people
are, you know, they study
comedy. They really
have this like huge... Look at those stamps.
Oh my God. Mongolia is the
greatest stamps.
Oh my God, cool.
Come on.
Mongolia, Mexico, 1970.
There's the Mongolian stamp from the World Cup
in 1970. Yeah, and
so they've done all these... They had
Muhammad Ali stamps, they had Pele stamps, they had Elvis stamps, Maryland Monroe stamps. A dorky
thing about me is I like stamps. So there's the main old post office in downtown Ulaan
Batar. You can go there and they still sell like all these classic sheets of stamps.
So I bought all these like great Mongolian stamps. That's so cool.
So, yeah, I mean, if you're into stamps, I am now.
I think Mongolia makes the coolest stamps on the planet.
It's so cool.
So you can put your pants on and eat some ice cream
and look through all your great stamps.
The newspaper did this story on me.
Is that how, is that Rhodes in their language?
Thomas Tom is Tom.
Yeah.
Polkliuk is Rhodes?
Yeah.
How cool is that?
None of this is English, right?
No, it's all Mongolian.
Wow.
You've got a copy, a hard copy of it.
You know, it's the great thing about traveling as a comedian.
You know, when you travel as a normal person,
you've got to check things out on your own.
But especially as a comedian, when you go somewhere,
the people want you to have the greatest experience,
the local comedians.
So they want to show you what's great about their places.
You know, I call it boots on the ground for comedy
because, like, if you were just coming to New York
and you're like, what's there to do?
it's going to be
Stature of Liberty
Go up to the fucking Empire State building
Whatever it's like that's not what New York life is
It's what's the cool bar in your neighborhood
And that's what the local would show a visitor
Yeah
It's like oh let me this place on fucking Thursdays
Has the fucking you know has a great happy hour
Yeah
And that's what you want to see
And that's what they do when you other comedians
Like let's take you out
So what else do you get into
So
Bata and Zolo
Took me out
And that's this picture there
Well, you can see
What do you want me to go?
They took me to
Changus Khan's
13th century campsite.
So look at that.
So see that big statue behind me?
That's the largest
Changus Khan statue in the world.
And I actually bought a statue of it.
And so like there's a museum.
So this is two hours outside of Ulaan Batar.
You're driving two hours outside
and then it's this massive statue.
and then you can actually
you go up in the statue
and then you come out
in the actual statue?
Yeah and then you can
there's a walking platform
up on top of the horse's head
which is the other photo
you can see where I'm
Who are these homos?
They're just
dorks with their fucking
fishing vest on
so there's another photo
where you can see his head
is right behind me
and that's it
So that's, I'm standing on top of the horse's head.
Oh, you're up there.
Wow.
That's the horse, I'm, that's the view from on top of the head of the horse.
Wherever you go in the world, there will be a Chineseman behind you with a camera.
There's no way around that.
Wow, that's so cool.
So this is, so this is two hours outside of the sea.
That was that guy?
Oh, yeah, a different perspective.
Two hours outside of, two hours outside of Ulambatar.
and then we drove further for one hour
one hour so three hours
look at those braids and he had hair braids
yeah
did you see the
Marco Polo on Netflix did you
did you see that
that was like 10 years ago
it was a brilliant series
yeah and they showed a lot of
the Mongol Empire
what a fucking baddie
yeah it really
true bad motherfucker
So we go three hours out
So this was just a pit stop
And then they'll see where the horses are
Yeah
So this is Changus Khan's 13th century campsite
Oh my God
Wait wait wait
They know where he camped and they're like let's go back there
Yeah and you can go and stay there
So the round white tents
They call them gurs
For some reason
In our world
We call them
Yurt's, which I don't know where the name Yurt comes from.
I bet I know.
So you know how everything's like Ellis Island, like, we mispronounce your names,
we're going to write it down definitely, and all the J's and Y's because whatever.
I bet they saw GER, somewhere Latino, called it, Y, must be your, and then they go,
then they just like changed it.
So they call it, so they call those kind of tense gurs.
I bet they invented them.
They definitely invented them.
So this is, this is where.
Changis Khan liked to camp
with his army
this massive
and these are the steps
you see the
you know the terrain
so
and you can stay there overnight
in these
I'm just trying to think the latitude
I know it's different but it's about Winnipeg
Yeah
Lombatour and then the bottom of Mongolia is about Minneapolis
Yeah I guess it's you know it's when they get
Winnipeg type weather
Yeah, around it was south.
That's a good.
Yeah, that's nice.
I had never considered that.
That's interesting.
So you can see there's another photo of me.
So this is, I woke up.
Wow.
I woke up and watched the sunrise, and I climbed up to get this shot of like the, so you can stay in these.
These are the years.
Gurs.
Gers, yeah.
And we got there and it was cold at night.
And there's a little fireplace in the center.
And that's why the, the, the.
like that.
So let's out smoke
the smoke goes up.
That's like a chimney.
So,
um,
what's this for fucking lookout for,
for enemies?
I don't know if that's,
I,
I don't know if that was part
of the ancient thing,
but,
um,
wow.
So like they make a little fire
for you at night.
And,
uh,
that was further out in the countryside.
These were people living like this.
So there's,
a lot of,
Mongolian people are still nomadic
and they move with the seasons
so we were just driving by
so Bata we drive out to this
campsite and there's a dirt
road and it disappears
and then he's we're just driving on
grass and I'm thinking
we're just like just driving on
grass and like I'm like
okay well you know
Is that the mountain you walked up? Yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah those photos I had walked
up as far as I could
up on about halfway up that hill
gorgeous scenery
to take that photo yeah
so you gotta go there man
it's incredible
I gotta go
so
we're driving on grass
and it's funny
you know it's funny how music
can be like a time machine for you
and transport you back to a time
in your life
yeah see this bro this isn't
this isn't roller bag
terrain yes it is
fuck off
yes it is backpack terrain
that's the that's the to me bag
I had for 10 years
that I got and look and that's my
To me carry on.
And if you look, if you zoom in, it says roads on the tab right there.
It was kind of worn off.
Okay.
And then if you go up on the backpack, you can see it says roads on it.
Oh, I'm that thing?
Yeah, it's light on the photo.
But, so anyway, so we're driving out.
This feels right.
So we're driving.
Oh, that's funny.
Because I still have that World Cup.
trophy is still on my bag.
Oh, wow. Really?
It's a different bag, but it's the same...
Oh, you transferred it.
Oh, wow.
Which World Cup is that?
It's just...
I probably bought that in Malaysia.
Okay.
Three or four World Cups ago.
Wow.
So we're driving on grass, and this is what it looks like.
There's no roads.
You're the road.
I'm the roads.
You're the roads, yeah.
And Bats...
Does it where? Your name is Tom Rhodes, and you're a traveler.
Bad Company.
song
Bad Company
Bown
Bown
Bown and like
And we're driving on grass and I'm like
Okay well who knows
There's no roads
I'm sure he knows where he's going
You just a lot of times in travel
You just got to trust the moment
You know
And you think either this is going to be the greatest
experience in my life or I'm going to be murdered
somehow
But
I trusted the moment
And now when
Now whenever I hear bad companies, bad company, it takes me back to driving.
I think it was like, I forget what it was the kind of vehicle he had.
But it takes me back to this SUV driving across over this green grass with no roads in Mongolia.
Whenever I hear bad company, six guns sound.
It's not weird.
It's not claim to fame.
You can associate that with that
I was in
Coupong, Thailand
I was getting ready to go over to
East Timor
landed there
got a ride cab from the airport
and I hadn't been seen anyone in months
and the cab driver
Guns and Roses came on in the car
I was like oh hell yes
I'm just like listen
Couldn't communicate with them
And that song takes you back to that moment
Then that song ended
It was like a 30 minute ride
From the airport
Another Guns and Roses song came on
And I was like, wait.
And then a third, I'm like, oh, this is the album.
Oh, he's playing the album.
Yeah, on tape.
Wow.
And it's just like, now that's an album.
You've been dancing with Paula Poundstone.
She won't leave me alone.
Mongolia in the summertime.
Wow, look at those horses fucking just eat.
drink it you want to film me i'm filming myself it's so beautiful oh my god yeah you can
associate a song so well with uh with something like that yeah different times in your life just
from a relationship bad company on those roads would be so fucking sick so let me tell you about um
so let me tell you about this 13th century campsite okay so it's so cool back to it yeah
You'd stay in there, and, you know, they made the little fire, and, you know, I woke up before sunrise, and I watched the sunrise over these step mountains.
Wow.
So what you can't see in this photo, and it took us maybe 30 minutes to hike around the side of this mountain.
Okay.
So this is the spot that they know.
was Changis Khan's favorite place in the homeland
where he liked to...
So you hiked around this mountain?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thank you so much.
So if you go to the around the right side,
we went and hiked around the right side.
And then there was, it was this really interesting...
Oh, up to there.
No, no, it's a little further to the right.
Okay.
Further to the right.
There was this kind of alcove around the...
there was like maybe 12
gurrs
it was a spiritual area
and there was
you could tell that it was a place for ceremonies
and
there were like 12 10 or 12
gurs that
were kind of like in half moon
circular
around this
spiritual ceremonial place
and Bata
was really
into mysticism and shamanism apparently there are shaman in mongolia and once a year they converge on this place
to meet and the different tents were four different shamans from different areas so we go there and you could
feel this presence that this is like a really special place once a year these
These, you know, these shaman come for whatever ceremony, like the center, like there was some wooden structures and some kind of, not flag things, but like kind of banner poles, you know, like you're seeing behind me, but with waving cloths on them.
okay so we so so so batta goes uh there you know we go we're looking at this area and he goes
this is the um this is the gur of uh the warrior shaman something to do the the the warrior mystique
energy shaman whatever so so i'm following them they go in
And I felt this really strong presence, like I wasn't invited.
I thought to myself, I was not invited into this space.
This is the warrior shaman's tent, girthing.
And my first thought was, oh, and I don't know how to describe it,
was a kind of cold, really heavy presence. And I thought, oh, I wasn't invited into this space.
And out of respect, I need to step out. And I just stepped out of it. And when I got out,
there was a super hot 30-year-old Mongolian woman standing there, not far. And she says,
hello and I said hi and then Bata and Zolo come out and then they're speaking Mongolian
and then Bata tells me she's a shaman and he's asked her if she would she give us a little
tour you know because I'm from I'm from wherever and so then the woman takes us she takes us
into this she goes please come in and then so she invites you in
invites me in to the warrior's tent, gur, and that cold, heavy, imposing feeling was gone.
No.
And then I felt kind of this warmth, like I was welcomed into this space.
And I actually feel that some kind of spirit of Mongolian warrior entered me while I was there.
and then she shows us around to the other ones and they were all cool and had different you know
shamanistic items in them but none were as fascinating or as powerful feeling for me as the
warriors shamans gur and then we come out it's starting to get a little dark and and um
I thought about it.
How can this woman, very attractive, 30-year-old Mongolian woman,
who's a shaman, just magically appears in this.
There's like, there's no roads for miles.
Maybe she was living somewhere around some other mountain.
I don't know.
But here's the thing.
Was it really like an 80-year-old man,
who shape shifted and transformed himself into a hot 30-year-old woman because he knew I would
be trusting and feel safe?
That's the thing.
That's contact.
It was like, he was your fucking dad the whole time.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
And you legit felt invited.
It's funny.
I remember years ago when I was young, I went into a voodoo shop in New Orleans, and I felt like,
It felt like a blast of a furnace on my face, and I had to turn around and walk out.
I wouldn't compare it to that, but that's the only time I could ever compare where the energy of a place made me go,
oh, I'm not welcome here and turn around.
Wow.
But then when the woman, shaman, invited me in, that, that cold and imposing feeling was gone.
And then I felt like a warmth like I was in.
invited into some grandmother's home and she wanted me to have her freshly baked apple pie.
I felt completely, um, welcomed.
What's the religion there?
Ah, good question. I didn't, I didn't talk to too many people about religion.
What was it then? It was just some like local shaman shit. I don't even know what that is.
Animism. Yeah, but then that's the, look, still, um, this.
roadside thing you could you could shoot arrows there's a video i didn't uh i didn't send it but
it after yeah it's i can show you i can send you this this this video okay where i got to
shoot an arrow and my my arm was like really shaky but um they're big into that shit huh
I magically
Here we go
Where does I go there
I magically
Accidentally hit the target
What
Yeah
Hold on
Go back to Mongolia
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I mean I
I may have shot a bow and arrow once
or twice in my life
before and so I'm like really shaky
when I'm pulling this bone arrow
and I let it go and like somehow I hit the target
no fucking way
yeah boom there it is
there it is
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boom
nailed it what
yeah in the target
wait no no no no no
wait wait yeah
yeah
Target is like some animal skin that's spread out there.
Boom.
It's so far away.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was far.
You should be way happier than a hooray.
I'm a shooter.
I'm a shooter.
I'm a shooter.
Pretty cool.
So far.
Okay, so my favorite word, my favorite word in the English language.
Yeah.
Is hooray.
And hooray comes from ancient Mongolia.
No, really?
H-U-R-R-E-H, I believe, is how they spelled it.
And hurri means like, amen.
Oh, really?
great um so we get in the english language the word hooray comes from ancient mongolia hurree that's cool
which is amen or amen which is like just an exclamation amen yeah i like gaudy you know where gaudy comes
from gaudy from spain from barcelona no kidding really well and then fucking dumbass vegas took it to
like changed it and so they're like no no it's not gowdy ask it's just gaudy and then it's like
And then it's lame in Vegas like.
What, okay, this is such a fun trip.
So how long?
I think you and I should go there and we should play the Ola and Batar comedy club.
I would love to go back.
Oh, and then on the side of the road where I shot the arrow.
Yeah.
Is this a falcon?
What?
So you can, well, that's a falcon.
But the one, I think it was it a buzzard that was on my arm?
Oh, yeah.
That's like a buzzard.
That's like a condor buzzard.
Yeah.
Jesus.
What, bro?
Okay, so, okay, you can have your photo taken with it, right?
And it's on your, it's on your arm, and they give you the, you know, whatever, falconer, you know, safety stuff for your arm.
Yeah.
This photo, it's on, you know, I take the photo, and then it takes off.
And it was so strong, I thought it was going to pull my arm out of the socket.
I mean, like, it was like, whoa.
It's so big.
And I had to, like.
It's the size of your whole torso.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
Oh.
You know what I like about places like this sometimes?
It's interesting.
I don't actually like it,
but that you'll have,
you're in the middle of nowhere,
Mongolia,
and then capitalism will just rear its head.
Yeah.
It just,
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They took me to some place
Where they sold authentic
Mongolian stuff
Like there was
All kinds of animal furs
And things like that
But look
I got this belt
15 years ago
In Mongolia
No
It's my
I have many belts
But this is my
Look at that
Look at the craftsmanship
Craftsmanship
Yeah
That's my everyday belt
And I bought that
in Ulambatar
I've been wearing that belt for 15 years
Really? And it's still
It still maintains
Yeah
That's quality
Yeah it's quality
Wow
So I told you I got some Mongolian warrior
Spirit
Wow
Yeah they stem
And they're great
They punched it in and everything
Damn
Hey man this is a really good episode
It really is.
I mean, it really is.
I didn't realize.
I got this in Guatemala.
Really?
That's great.
Yeah.
And one of those local markets in the north.
And it's also very, very good.
Great quality.
Yeah.
It's just like good quality craftsmanship.
But like, it's one of those where like I'm selling it to another Guatemalan.
It's like far enough out where you're like, yeah, it's my neighbor.
I'm not going to make something shitty.
Yeah.
I just needed a belt, too.
It wasn't like I'm, you know, I was like, oh, fuck, my other belt broke.
wow so how long do you go for when you go um i think i was there for a week do you ever get
laid out there no when i went i was married so i would love to go back now that i'm single
were the chicks coming on to you at all uh there was uh you know there was there was there was
one woman after the show that um uh it was a possibility but i uh i was married at the time
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
This is my favorite, one of my favorite photos traveling, traveling book.
Bata on the right and Zolo on, and Zolo is from.
That's Zolo.
We got out of somebody who works on this podcast.
Zolo is on, that's Bata.
Oh, that's Bata, okay.
And then that's Zolo on the left.
And he's from the Gobi Desert area of Mongolia.
Yeah.
And I figured he had lived in Poland.
I think he went to university in Poland.
a really really cool guy wonderful beautiful men and even though i didn't understand their language
they were murderous comedians who made the crowd laugh i mean if you murder and can you even
use the word murdered in mongolia i think you can only use the word if you did not kill what
have you even done i cut open that old woman's stomach and took her pearl that's probably did you get
sick at all out there did you never where the bathroom was like full toilet small like squaw
like squats what are we talking no no no that's no no that's um southeast asia is the squatting
yeah no they're they're proper toilet people they're proper they didn't conquer half the world
to squat when they go to the bathroom and then that beetles um monument is in uhlan
bata no one batar no really yeah that's not on top of an apple no it's like in a park
yeah yeah yeah yeah it's an apple shape isn't that cool too such where you're like we're like we're
like the Beatles made it all the way to Ulambatur, their influence to the point where somebody's like, they ruled.
I like how they respect, like, the, look at those commemorative stamps that they were just amazing, cool things that they like, World Cup Soccer, Elvis, you know, Muhammad Ali.
When I was in The Great Wall, I was coming down, I was talking to the guy, the advice I got, maybe from you, maybe from Turner Sparks was before you get on that ride, the slide.
you want the guy in front of you to get, get going.
Wait, I'm sure I told you that.
Because I've been there three times.
Yeah.
And it's one of my favorite things on the planet Earth to go on that slide down the gray wall.
And I did it, I did it once and there was someone going slow and like stop to take photos or some shit.
And so you talk.
And then you stop.
And then you got to wait for them.
And it's not as thrilling as when you're just shooting like a bullet.
Yeah.
But, but you were like, talk to the guy.
He's willing to.
to talk to you because he's like talked some English and like and then like that's the way
you can slow down we're like hi how you what's your name and they're like oh let's talk and
now now you're not just like pausing and I was he was like where you're from like America
goes Schwarzenegger I don't want to be like I mean that's not would you call me
yeah that's funny Schwarzenegger is Schwartz is black and he's German right
interesting interesting yeah what a fucking
time. So you and I
should go to Ulaan Batar together.
100%. And
100%. We can shoot arrows.
We can hold
Because they're big into arrow shooting and horseback riding and stuff,
right? That's all lineage. The culture, you know,
and they're a nomadic people. So it is really beautiful when you
go out to the countryside and you see that the people are still
living like that. But, you know, instead of horses, they'll
have like a Toyota Tacoma and a couple of horses.
and you know they move their gurrs around with the seasons my buddy um today here world nomad games
he went out there and and went into him and it's all like mongolians some cowboys who just
want the rush who go out there to be like i want to compete with these mongolians and it's just
it's just all that shit no that's a cowboy that's a crazy one american cowboy but it's all this
it's hunting with peregrine falcons nice oh yeah
Yeah.
And then, I guess it's history of it too, but like, where is it?
And this is like that Mongol, yeah, look at that's some manly shit right there, man.
That's crazy.
We're going to wrestle on horseback.
This is ancient Mongolian shit at its finest.
And they're still deep into it.
People are still into it and that they have these games every year.
And this ain't like, this ain't like well known enough to be.
But why isn't this on ESPN?
I it would rule
I would bet on this
yeah
oh my god
bro
yeah
oh get away
they're gonna get trampled
you idiots
call your mother
I don't know why more people don't go to Mongolia
because it's such a cool
why don't they
it's such a good I think because it's
I think because it's
Winnipeg temperatures
for half the year
I think because it gets so
yeah because when I ask you when you go
you're like summer deep summer
I think because it's so friggin' cold, you know?
Have you been in the, when it gets cold?
Out in the countryside, I guess a little bit of summer.
I was there in autumn when it was like half cold.
And then I went back to the next year in summer.
That this photos you're seeing are from summer.
I bet that's that milk.
Well, this is Kazakhstan.
So I bet their influence spread.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Man, that's fucking crazy.
Did you, you put out that special of, or album of local bits, right?
Well, I put out an album called Around the World.
Around the World.
And I recorded it in 24 cities around the world,
and it's all jokes and stories mostly about those places.
So comics, if you ever seen a comic in the road,
if you go to local comedy clubs here in Denver
and you go to the Comedy Works, Best Club in the World,
or we're at Kansas City, well, that one's maybe, whatever.
You'll see comics come in, and they'll all do a joke about,
Kansas City it's because we're suddenly our minds are open up about Kansas City we've
never been there before you know like like but like Paris and Dublin and Amsterdam like
places like that have been playing for years yeah so I'll have like a hunk of
material on it so you keep going back I think it was 2019 I put out this album
around the world yeah it starts in Paris ends in Jerusalem and every track
is a different city around the world it was supposed to be a 25
tracks, or 25 cities.
Yeah.
And then I made a clean version of the same album.
So you could put it up.
And I was recording in Tokyo.
There we go.
And I had this killer set and I made all this brilliant material about Japan
because Japan is such a fascinating place.
And it was a small club and I had my little Zoom recorder on the ledge behind me.
And I finished my set.
and I turned around to grab the Zoom recorder,
and I knocked it on the ground,
and I lost the recording.
The Zoom's great.
If you stop a recording without having it finalized, everything's lost.
That's why there's 24 tracks instead of 25.
It was supposed to be, or 24 cities instead of 25.
Damn, so you did bits about Hanoi?
Yeah.
To a Hanoi crowd.
Yeah, my father fought in the Vietnam War.
So I like to go to Vietnam and see if there's anyone there.
That's the one we tied, right?
Who looks half like me.
That's one we tied?
That's what they told us as kids
We won every war
We tied that one
That's hilarious
I never heard that
Ola Jor
Yeah
Can I play a second?
Sure
You think it'll come
No
Wait
You can always put
Aristocrats
And nobleman into catapults
And shoot them against the palace walls
Because that never
Fails to make the Mongolian flag
Oh, you should back it up.
I forgot about it.
That's a really good.
That's a great line.
Oh, what?
Damn it.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Because I was reading that Jenghis Khan, you know what they used to do to the noblem?
Never give up on a joke.
Never give up on a story.
And if that doesn't work, you can always put aristocrats and noblemen into catapults and shoot them against the palace walls.
Because that never fails to make the Mongolians laugh.
He used to shoot noblemen and
and shoot him against the palace walls.
And I know that the great wall of China was built
to keep the Mongolians out.
So while I'm here,
I want to see the great ladder of Mongolia.
I forgot about these jokes.
I'm here to say thank you, man,
because Mongolia and Jagas Khan gave the world so much.
You guys, Mongolia gave the world pants.
Oh, yeah.
Well, we learned that earlier.
Oh, my God, my favorite piece of club before Mongolia conquered the world, Europeans wore robes and their balls and their dick was plopping around and shit.
But you people gave the world.
It's a real crowd.
Yeah.
All Mongolians.
Wow.
All Mongolians.
Yeah.
And so, like, if you, you know.
So if you've learned a little bit about their culture, you know.
I think you go back again, tweak it, go back, tweak it, think about it over time.
Yeah.
Yeah, my opening line there was...
This is such a cool idea for an album,
especially for people from listening to this podcast.
Yeah, man.
And it's still, it's timeless material
because it's stuff about these places.
And then a lot of experiences I had,
you know, I lived in Amsterdam.
Yeah, you lived in Amsterdam.
I had a bike wreck.
You know, I had a late-night talk show on Dutch television.
I was Mast in Paris.
I almost drowned in Thailand.
There's really great,
a lot of my greatest travel stories
are, is in this,
on this album.
Wow.
And you got a new special out too?
Yeah, just self-produced a new special.
Ripest Zebras?
The ripest zebras.
Acme.
I filmed it in Acme last year.
I wanted to go there so bad.
I was just there last week.
That's one of my favorite clubs
on the planet Earth.
Look at this.
Even when you follow the fucking,
the plane.
See the plane?
Nice, huh?
That's a cool.
feature for you yeah well tom buddy this was fucking great this podcast had a lack had just like a missing
piece that was like i'm having fun but until i get tomboy on here it's just not it's just that we
haven't done it right so now now it's a real podcast i love you so much all right i love you too and
obviously god loves us or else he wouldn't have put us together at the church of the holy
a holy fucking sepulchre in Jerusalem.
Steve Simone's family would have all perished during the pandemic had it not been for that cross.
Okay, before we go, this is two things I ask everybody.
I'll ask you two and then you can answer one at a time.
What's a country that you haven't been to that's calling you?
This will be interesting for you because not everywhere you've been.
And then another one is a travel tip of any kind of specific or general or anything.
I'm going to hit you with the travel tip first
because I just remembered one
and I wrote it down there.
When you're in another country,
get an album
and listen to that whole album on loop
and you will associate that album with that place.
And so every time you hear that album
or any song from it,
you're going to remember that fucking trip.
That's good.
Remember how I told you to find weed
when you went to Europe?
Go to the local statue.
Go to the main square.
Every main square has got a statue
and just sit on the steps
by the statue and just wait and normally some arabic guy will come up to you and ask you if
you want any smoke that is a great travel tip that i have used and passed on multiple times i can't
believe i didn't think of what i asked you that is if you want to score weed in a foreign country
go to the square go to the statue and wait sit by the statue and wait wait like yes thank you tom
how much um for countries
Yeah, where's always called you?
That you're like, guys, I haven't made it there.
I really want to.
I would love to go to Peru.
That's my, I would go back.
That's one of my favorite trips I ever took in my life.
Yeah.
I would like to.
New Zealand's amazing.
I've been there.
I'd love to go back.
But you're saying where I've never been.
Where have you never been?
I have performed on every continent except for Antarctica.
And I performed on the Seychelles Islands.
of Africa who owns those Spain it's technically part of Africa those that was a strange gig it
was for a Saudi Prince in his harem what I'm sure I'm sure you've heard of that they must not have
been a good crowd it was all white women from England and America you're picturing like
Arabic beauties but it was all white women from England Australia and America
I would I think I would say Kenya you've never been Senegal Cameroon I would I've never been to Morocco I mean he neither and that's high on my list I would I would like to see places in in Africa I would I would love to go to Morocco yeah this would all be really cool I was in there and I saw ads for like one way 79 for nothing yeah seven different cities and I'm like oh I couldn't swing the time
in Amsterdam you know they would have a lot of them disappeared but they had travel agencies
and you know they would have on the wall they're you know the packages yeah and so you know
you could fly to Greece uh and have seven nights in a hotel like a package for like you know
six 700 euros or whatever uh I missed that well where okay so then forget I don't want to
get bogged down with like place you have been where's calling you to go back to like for me
right now Southeast Asia is like pulling at me so hard for you
years and I'm like, come back, come back.
I love Southeast Asia.
I was just, I just went back to Vietnam in March.
Did you love it?
I love it.
Vietnam is so amazing.
What do you like better, Fah or, or the Bon Mese?
Or what?
Bon Mie.
Oh.
I'm a Bon Mee guy when I'm on there.
It's so fast and so easy.
The sandwich is so fresh.
Yeah.
And you're just like, and everyone's like, no, you got to get this and this.
I'm like, great, great.
But I love that, get and go.
Yeah.
It's like pizza here.
Yeah. You're right.
Vietnam, Thailand, you just can't get enough of it.
Everything's a dollar.
Everything's delicious.
What the French did with art and literature, the Vietnamese and Thai people, have done with food.
It is just, it's elevated to spiritual artistic creations.
That's the way I look at it.
What the French did with art and literature,
that's what the Thai and Vietnamese have done with food.
Wow.
And you get that French influence on the food in Vietnam.
Vietnam makes amazing breads.
And that's from the French influence.
That's from the Bon Mie.
The bread is amazing.
I remember during this period of like Revolution in America,
people were waking up to like problems, you know, with our history.
And so then there was this protest in college
that white kids shouldn't be eaten Bon Mies because it's like,
it's a it's a it's a it's a they're doing it wrong and somebody had to be like hey you know um the baguette
that it's not authentically the enemies just my mom because my father flew helicopters in
vietnam and he was shot down yeah part of the tie everyone in the helicopter died except for him
and his co-pilot who uh he uh dragged across a field and um uh my dad got like six seven
medals for that and he's buried in arlington now he wasn't killed
in the thing but my mom
you worked at Arlington
National Cemetery my first job 16
my father's in section 69
appropriately enough
I'm I for sure
I've for sure
been right by that my father was a
legit bonafide war hero
and my family's from D.C.
I lived in Silver Spring until I was 12
oh you knew that you forgot it
but my mom
she doesn't
understand why I would go to Vietnam on vacation. She said they they killed all of our friends there
honey. But you go there and the the young generation, they have no memory of the Vietnam War.
And they don't hate us. No. They hate the Chinese now. They've given up on us. They've had three
wars with China since we left. So, um, it was the funnest thing about the go to the war remnants
museum. I think it's whatever. And they call it the American War. The American War Crimes Museum is what
it's called. And you're like, well, what's the American War? Oh, right. Like, we just had
the French war. They left. 10 years later
you guys got here. It's not called the Vietnamese
war. You guys just keep coming
at us, you whites.
Buddy, this is amazing.
It's amazing. What a great chat.
Yeah, what a great chat. I do love just talking about places.
That's why this podcast is, and you're the man.
Okay, so you're going, when can we plan on going to
Mongolia? I'd like to go back next year.
Okay, so I'll be...
When are you going back to Asia? I'm going traveling.
I'm going to take a different region.
so when I'm back in March I have this I have one thing to promote in March then I'm headed boom moving there and at that point I got to be there for four four months or so and get settled and then I mean then this is all open okay so end the next summer for a week maybe maybe because I'm going to get the early time I'll have to see but I would like when are those one of those games on that would be
one of the wet yeah one of the that would be cool because that's got to be it's a summer thing obviously
because they're wrestling on horseback with no uh yeah and i remember it there was a there was a documentary
movie about a of a september young woman who was a falconer wow and they do the thing where they
shoot they shoot airs of the feet you got to like you got to like climb the mountains and scale down to get to
the falcons nest
and like steal a baby falcon from its nest
and raise it on your own
that the falcon knows no other
master but you
and that's how they train it
it was some documentary about
I don't know five six years ago
10 years ago that I saw
because it wasn't cool
for women to do it
and then this girl becomes like a badass
in the sport of falcons
That's what the documentary was about.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
All right.
Late,
are you impressed with how much I know about Mongolia?
Yeah, I am.
Yeah, I am.
All right, buddy.
Well, this is awesome.
This is awesome.
Yeah, we got to go together.
So here's my deal when I end this.
My mom said what she likes about these podcasts.
And she goes, I like the ones that make me want to go to a place afterwards.
Oh, good.
And some don't.
And some do.
What I get is, would I just like finish?
We're done now.
and I just get this like wistful feeling of just like I gotta get there I want to like that I'm craving that because it comes in like kind of a wooden half bucket like a like a not a bowl but you know like the barrels wooden barrels a smaller version of that's like half cut off and that's got all the Mongolian
beef in it with carrots and you know potatoes and it's like that's in it's in yeah and it's so actual
Mongolian beef is so succulent and it's not covered in some sweet disgusting sauce like we um have
been conditioned in these Americanized Chinese restaurants where is it that's it look at
that's that's it that's what Mongolian beef looks like
Yeah, and it's a bucket of beef.
Yeah, look, compared to the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that's disgusting.
You're right.
But the, look, there's no sauce on the, it's just perfectly cooked, and it's so soft and tender, the actual meat.
Wow.
Yeah, so talking with you about this, going to Mongolia, that's, I can, I can, I can taste it in the back of my mouth.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, that looks great.
Amazing.
Yeah, dry and so.
Well, I hope your mother enjoys the fact that you and I have a story connected with my mother.
Yeah.
Because my mother knows you instantly.
When I go, Mom, you remember my friend Ari.
He's a nice boy I met.
The one we ran into it in Jerusalem, honey.
That's the one.
I wonder what I got you, America, Canada, Israel, and then we'll go there.
I would love it.
Yeah.
I'll buy you a belt.
Okay.
All right.
This is fucking red.
Who wants to go to Mongolia now?
I know I do.
I mean, I legitimately have to go.
I don't know what.
I mean, I'm not touring in 2026.
2027.
Begin my tour, Mongolia.
No way I'm going there in January.
But maybe I'll work it in sometime in 2027.
What an episode.
Thank you, Tom Rhodes.
I would say this is a nominee for picture.
of the year because of all the ones he has because they're very interesting and he got
out there and did it maybe trip of the year guys if you're watching on youtube please
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If you're wondering, it's the statue.
Valais de Eternar Prima.
Michaela Bastidos, she was a revolutionary,
married, interestingly, to Tupac Amaru the second,
which is a descend of the last Incan ruler.
Tupac Amaru the first, last Incan ruler.
Years later, a woman named, Offenge,
named her child after him Tupac Shakur.
Hmm.
He let an uprising and gets the Spanish.
Anyway, yeah.
What else I have to tell you about Tom Rhodes?
I guess not that.
Oh, that album you want to hear about it.
It's called Around the World.
And, yeah, get it and listen to it.
It's about a new bit.
Every track is a new bit about a place he's been.
It's pretty fucking wild.
For myself, you can, you can, there's many people around where I put a sticker up right here.
But yeah, there's just too many people around.
I just can't do it.
I mean, no way, right?
No way.
No way.
No way.
Literally, no way.
They're setting up a, what is this?
Direction Reginal Agraria.
No, there's like cops everywhere.
I'm not putting up sticker.
It would be fucking cool, though.
Put it up right on it.
Can I put it up behind?
No way.
It'll be seen.
It'll be taken down.
I could put what I put these flower beds.
Get your UBit tripping sticker pack right now,
available at Archefeer.com,
or just go for a hike shirt,
which I love.
I wear them on my hikes.
You also wear them in the city
to remind you that you also should be going
for more hikes and getting out of your cities get your ubi chippin t-shirt you could wear in
any hostel anywhere on the road or back at home where you just remind yourself you got to be
you got to get gone it's important and um what else um i think i think that's it guys
yeah throwing your nominees in the comment section for um for trippy awards same awards as last
year and then if you have any other idea for awards like it worst like best meal what
we have best meal sexual experience or worst last year was jo list trying to get laid
with the woman in diarrhea on the salkintite trail in peru um wish i could go there one day um
what about best trip worst trip most depressing got to be chris o'connor a nominee for that
and guys it's every it's not since the beginning of the podcast it's at the beginning of the
year since the Paul Morrisy episode onwards that's it um let's on the way out hey
Alan can we get a two bucks your core song to put in um Alan we get a two
box your core song to put in we get the rights to that can you ask uh Zolo if we
can get that oh I don't have that kind of money um all right that's it guys and get a
playing cards pack. They're available at my website at rye shepard.com. Guys, that's it.
Get out there and travel yourselves. I hope you had a good time. I don't know how to say goodbye
in Mongolian, but man, I want to go now. Until next week, everybody.
No, no, don't. Come on, Ari. Come on, come on, come on. Keep it above board.
Guys, in Mongolia, by the way, if you're watching this for the comedy club, you're running a cool
thing out there. Tom, you'll definitely be back on this episode. And guys, like I said,
if you wanted me back, and if you just, any of the guests, you want to tell them you
appreciate it, Tom's on Instagram, at
underscore Tom Rhodes.
Let him know you had a great time in the episode.
I mean, he's the guy.
He's going to come back.
So hope you had a good time.
I know I did.
Until next week, everybody, go out there, live your lives, travel.
Enjoy.
Goodbye.
What are the odds that this actually recorded?
I mean, I'm doing it.
There's some old Kichua lady.
She's fucking staring at me right there the whole time.
You know how embarrassing it says to do out in public?
I don't do you guys understand how fucking embarrassing is this is throughout in public.
I want to do it out in the woods with nobody there.
Oh, oh, I'll start a podcast.
Okay, you're gonna have to get you a lady staring at you
and a fucking local cop fucking whistling at you
when you stand clearly, you're safe.
Bye everybody.
Louis Gomez next week on Travel with Children.
Interesting theme episode.
And then the week after that, what do we got the week after that?
Live from Skangfest, and then after that, Danny Brown.
Oh, it's a lot of good ones coming.
All right, bye.
Oh, and do you have any ideas for guests?
Please leave them in the comments.
I read them and sort of Heather and...
Oh, and by the way, if you have the stickers,
stick them up, by the way, guys.
Wherever you are, stick them up,
take a picture of it, like, from afar, you know?
And then, like, a close one.
If I could stick it on the end, it'd be like the whole thing,
and then right on the end there.
Get it? And then tag U.B. Tripping Pot. And then Heather and Caitlin, they're a devout box munchers.
They're just like, you know, slurping the juice on each other. And they take breaks once in a while.
They check the Instagram account.
You know, just wipe their face off. And then they go like, oh, somebody posted a U.B. Tripping sticker out in the wild.
And if you see one of my stickers that I put out in the wild, again, two free tickets to any show you want of mine at 27.
Is that the next time I'm touring? Yeah.
Damn.
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