You Be Trippin' - Myanmar w/ Small Brained American (Connor McBee) | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir
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this is a complete stye over here it's a stoner's den for sure
dude it's so embarrassing having like high level people here like rob low and stuff and
him just going i cleaned up for him no offense you wouldn't clean up for me what the fuck
i mean you're an awful guy um yeah this is my spot sweet um what are you doing in america
how was donnie donnie's good yeah he's a fucking bro that um that office is amazing it's like
Oh, my God.
You did the gauntlet?
No.
There's like a six, uh, six game.
It's like you got to hit a three.
You got a kick of soccer ball.
No, we didn't do that.
You have to do all these like different things.
And that's for Big Cat.
No, you must have gotten the royal treatment.
I don't think Big Cat was there though.
Oh, okay.
But I was talking with my girlfriend.
Like, she used to work in Amazon.
Yeah.
And she was always bitching about the office and stuff.
And I went and it was like free coffee, like bring your dog.
Like they have a bookshelf.
Big pong table.
Yeah.
And Barstle is even better.
Barstle rules.
They have fucking high noon machines.
They have Zin machines.
I heard Portnoy went there and saw that they had some warehouse and goes, oh, I get what
you guys are doing.
Actually go bigger.
I get it.
Let's get an actual fucking big thing.
They had a gym in there, a basketball court.
They have former, like, real, like players.
Really?
Like Division I football players.
One guy was like, was going to get drafted and he goes, I don't just get CTE.
Like, I'm going to call it.
Because they were getting paid now.
He's like, I'm already kind of a millionaire.
Damn.
Like, why I keep doing this?
That is crazy how they grew it into, like, an empire.
It's just like bros and...
It's just bros.
Just alcoholics.
You know the Bear Olympics?
No, no.
They have a Beer Olympics every year.
Like, busing with the boys and all those guys.
They just get fucking weights.
Just drinking games.
Like beer pong and Kings Cross and whatever.
Imagine, like, coming home to, like, your newborn son just hammered.
You're like, sorry, honey, I lost the big game today.
I'm out.
We're ruined.
Yeah, we're going to be in the poor house.
All right, so the podcast is just like, we just talk about a place.
Yeah.
I don't know how much you know about it.
Yeah, I watch it.
Yeah.
Nice.
Yes, sir.
Where you've been and where you're going?
This is Ari's travel show.
Yeah.
We're going to talk about travel today.
It's U.B. Tripping, yeah.
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to U.B. Tripping.
This is a travel podcast.
I'm your host, Ari Shafir, every week.
Some guests takes us to some place.
it's pretty simplified um it's the only podcast that stands for using the uh the elephant tusk uh for
sexual reasons it's not for don't don't do jewelry guys if you're gonna use a fucking rhino tusk or elephant
tusk put it to use get boners possibly pens but definitely not necklaces these things are
endangered but boners we're on poor with that um small freight america connor yes sir what do you
go by how do you introduce uh connor yeah you don't go as
SBA?
SBA, yeah.
People call me SBA, but Connor for friends.
Yeah.
You want a fucking MVP award?
MVP?
SGA.
What is that?
I don't know.
It's a basketball player.
I'm not really in sports.
Yeah, I'm a virgin.
Where do you want to go?
What should we talk about?
Let's go to Myanmar.
Yes, sir.
Wait a second.
Hold on.
Do I have a Myanmar shirt?
Fuck.
Dude, this is my first spot.
What?
What have I got from Myanmar?
That ball?
Chinon ball?
Oh, yeah.
the little hacky sack thing yeah damn you brought that back huh i shipped it okay i shipped it from
i forget what city maybe mandalay and then i was like okay we can get this in like there in like two
weeks for this much i'm like um no no no i've just started a trip yeah yeah i'm looking at like
get it there in three months or more and they're like oh all right like 40s that's it's what i'm
for it. Hell yeah.
Yeah, I know you went there and had a good time, so I feel like it's going to be fun
convo.
Nobody's been there.
Yeah.
When did you go?
23, February.
February, 2020, okay, recent.
Okay, let's see how this is different now.
Yes, sir.
Okay, what brought you there?
I was on a big trip.
I was going from Ireland to Japan.
I was trying on a motorcycle, but then customs, I was too broke to be able to afford to take
it into Asia.
So I left it.
I sold it in Bulgaria and then was just taking buses and fucking hitchhiking all the way
across Asia as best I could had to skip Iran but yeah I was just doing land borders as
best as I could and Myanmar was on the list and where did you come in from a land border there
Thailand now the land border was closed that was another one it was Iran was fucked and
Myanmar was fucked so I had to take two flights oh interesting so yeah um yeah okay
okay let's see out let's see what we got into what you heard about it before you went
honestly on your podcast i heard about it um and that's pretty much oh my old podcast or this one
yeah yeah okay uh and that's pretty much it man i just knew they had like a military dictatorship
i knew there was a lot of like immigrants i think in bangladesh oh is it okay sweet
sweet yeah i know there's a lot of uh burmese immigrants in bangladesh really like working
so i knew it was fucked like if you want to bangladesh as like a refugee like for like more
opportunity. Yeah, it's bad. Where did you start? Yangon? Yeah, I flew into Yangon just because it was the easiest
flight. I think I flew from Calcutta, India to Yangon. Okay. But the smell got better. Marginally, yes,
but the beetle nuts smell got much stronger. Tell them what beel nuts are. It's like a mix
between like caffeine and like cocaine a little bit. It's kind of like a middle ground. It's like a strong
euphoric stimulant that you chew it and your teeth look absolutely fucked that that is wild
if your teeth are looking that bad it must be a hell of a drug it must be amazing to sacrifice
your teeth for that you try it oh yeah yeah it's it's like you just chew it or what is what do you
do exactly you like break it up you break this seed and then you just kind of let it sit in your
mouth like dip and then spit you have to spit or you get very sick in india they have
like beetle pan which has like gummies and like sugar and different kind of weird concoctions yeah in
india they get a little feisty with it but in vietnamar is straight up just beetle nut tobacco and then
like some fucking they take it out of like a fucking paint container it's like lime what is it lime
chemical lime they call it yeah and that's what makes your teeth red but i guess it's just really
good so they i mean the guy's teeth are already fucked up and then he stained them that's true that's
they do not have orthodontas in vr you think his friends are like hey dude you got to get your teeth
white and he's like that ain't the problem
which ones
the one's in the back look at this guy
the ones in back these go deep
deep in it's like blood red
dude I can't even look at the blood red is crazy
but this one split in two
this one set back like a fucking
like someone who wants a front yard more than a
backyard fucking hell
oh no man that's
and honestly after two or three days are doing it you can see
like your teeth change colors did you
did you do it anymore
And it was like, it wires you.
Dude, it works.
It works.
People were like, yeah, you know, I use it for like my construction job.
It gives me energy.
And I'm like, all right.
So this is just like low-grade cocaine.
Where did you stay there?
First, I started in some hostel.
It's actually quite nice.
I had a little cafe.
Okay.
I just found it on booking.
Because I feel like Myanmar is not the place you want to show up and just like
bargain for a hotel.
I feel like you kind of want to know like.
I got one day started like my first like real backpacking hostel trip there.
It was like day one.
I've never done.
I just heard about it from people.
Okay.
So it was like hotel one night, just like get set and find a, find a, like, a computer.
Yeah.
And then like, I'm going to blow up through my money.
This is yours, by the way.
What?
All right.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Hell yeah.
I met your money and I saw it.
Not a stingy Jew.
Don't tell anyone.
I'll be thrown out of the synagogue.
Yeah.
Then I found a hostel and it was like, it seemed like new to hostels.
Yeah.
What was it called, do you know?
It was, I looked it up, it's gone.
Monkey, happy monkey in Chinatown.
Okay, sounds very sketchy.
It was nice.
Okay.
Nice enough.
Breakfast.
Yeah.
What was breakfast?
Some pieces of bread.
Yeah.
Something that they had, I don't know, like a bean or something I'm kind of remembering.
Yeah.
It was enough to get you like energized enough to get out to find food.
Right.
Yeah.
A little bit of starch and caffeine.
And tea, plenty of tea you could have.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
Yeah.
same shit i think they gave us like french toast without the sugar it was just like white bread
with like egg on it and like coming from america and like you know we're bigger guys i need like a lot
of fucking protein so it didn't really do the trick but you know whatever it's me and mar so
the difference in the hostel breakfast is from like this is really good to like to like
this is an insult to somewhere in the middle like just enough energy to get me an hour that's fair
that's fair because i guess if you're staying in a hostel you're there to adventure so yeah
you don't need much um yeah do you see any of that
Yeah, yeah, I did the little hacky sack
Yeah, I fucked around
Honestly, like within the first two hours there
I like made a friend
This guy was just like, hello, like would you like to
I'll show you around the city
And I was like yeah, let's fucking go
And I think it was kind of a scam
Because he took me to like a little
What are those called?
Laosuji I think the little robe they wear
All the men
Remember that?
They're wearing like little skirts and stuff
Dude, this is going to take me back
This is going to take me back
Have you had a guest to Myanmar yet?
No
Okay, hell yeah.
Yeah, no.
And I've been waiting to, like, maybe I'll do it, but like, this is fucking way better.
Let's fucking go, dude.
Being where it was male.
I did, yeah, that's it.
Yep, that's it.
Yep.
And everybody wears it.
Like, nobody wears pants.
Yeah, weird, right?
And they have that tied up the pant, this, the tied up thing.
Yeah, it's so comfortable, too.
It's so what?
Comfortable.
Yeah.
Oh, my God, yeah.
No restriction.
Did you see any white dudes wearing them?
I mean, me.
Yeah, there was like one.
another guy in my hostel, a German kid, obviously, because Germans are all over the fucking planet.
God, they really are.
But, yeah, they're just infestating everywhere.
It's an infestation.
18-year-old Germans, they just think.
Isn't it weird?
They thought we were becoming an infestation.
And then in the hostile world, now it's them.
That's right.
That's right.
It must be dealt with.
Yeah, full circle, full Jewish star all the way around.
It must be dealt with.
Yeah.
But fucking, yeah, like this German kid, I don't know.
Like, I feel like the people you meet in Myanmar are like.
very intrepid travelers
because they're the type of people
to be like fuck the State Department
I'm just going to go and see for myself
because why would you go there?
Exactly.
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But let's get back to the episode
I had this theory
Then like in like
I actually met Donnie
Wanton Don
Before I knew him
Somebody told me like
You guys met a long time ago
In 2014
Because he was just in the Hong Kong scene
Okay
Or Shanghai scene
I forget I think Hong Kong scene
But like
There's what I saw was like
like the bankers that were in like Hong Kong,
why are you a banker here?
You could be a banker in London and New York.
You ask for a transfer here because you're way wilder than most bankers.
And yeah,
anybody goes to Myanmar as like a hostel or a travel.
Like,
why?
It's the stance on that is not like safe place,
beautiful beaches.
That's not the vibe.
It's literally military dictatorship.
That's what it's known for us.
That's the number one tourist attraction is the fucking police.
Yeah.
Yeah, but you meet some legend.
legends in those hostels. I mean, hostels in general, but Myanmar especially. Like, I met this
German kid who's just like, doesn't give a fuck, he just goes anywhere, trying to go to every
country type guy, you know? So. Like right away? You met him? Yeah, I mean, he was just like
staying like kind of near my bunk and yeah. Cool dude. So it definitely attracts a certain
crowd. Yeah. Damn, those hostels are cool there. You really do. And everyone's friendly.
I just, I don't know if it's going to survive there though. Myanmar. Like, I think it was me and
there was like a fat Chinese guy in my like bunk situation and that was it for like my room
in the hostel it wasn't and it was a big place it wasn't crowded like they were not getting
business right so I wonder how much they need some of those things are like were government funded
it's not like full cap I don't I don't I just honestly you don't know I can't imagine the government's
funding yeah what it was it like with the military because when I went it was like kind of free
and then I heard they kind of took back power when did you go 2017 oh okay so you
It opened up a bit.
Yeah, you went before the Democratic election,
and then this woman won the election.
On San Suu Kyi?
I don't know.
Okay.
But you know about this?
Yeah, a little bit.
Yeah, she won the election, and then the military was like,
nah, we don't accept that, and then just put her in prison.
If it was on San Suu Kyi, it was like, they put her in house arrest for like 20 years.
Oh, that's what it is?
And then they let her out, and they go, you just can't talk about the government anymore.
She goes, I'm for sure going to.
And they go, okay, right back for another 10 years.
years she didn't see her husband for like the last 10 years of her life oh my wait she's dead
his life sorry oh okay um then they made a rule that anyone who's married a foreigner can't be
prime minister okay like espionage shit or it's so that she wouldn't be the president
it's just for her that's smart yeah and then you're like all right how about i'm the
advisor to that she still ran it from what i understand but just like i'll use a different
title yeah it's like if trump was like you can't do a third term because i can be prime minister
of America, though.
Yeah, you can be prime minister.
That might happen, dude.
Who knows?
Oh, my God, dude.
Give me credit.
Yeah, but then I don't know what they took back or whatever.
Yeah, so have you seen the video of it was 2021?
It's a like jazzercise influencer doing a live stream from like this big,
kind of historic place in Myanmar.
Is this it?
That's it, dude.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
Jesus.
Gay porn.
I'm not sure.
Oh, is that it?
That's pretty kinky, man.
That is pretty kinky.
I might try that with my girl.
Okay.
All right,
let's get this out of here.
He's going to distract me.
Sorry.
Is your editor going to have to look at that?
Yeah, I don't know.
Sorry, Alan.
Yeah, I don't know.
He's going to get fucking hard.
Bro, okay, one jerk off to that and then back to work.
Okay, go ahead.
Yeah, but the fucking the jazzercise influence.
or it was like doing her little thing.
She had her sweatband on her little like microphone.
And she's live streaming.
And then in the background,
our tanks just storming the capital or whatever.
Whoa.
Yeah,
it like went super viral on I think TikTok.
What?
Yeah, dude.
Yeah, dude.
It's history, part of history.
Oh, my God.
And that's when they took over the government.
And that's when the military said,
the military had a full on coup.
They completely took over the government.
Yeah, now it's a military dictatorship.
Wow.
So when I was there, there was,
it was military dictatorship.
Her father was a general, like a beloved general in the war, against whoever before those.
And then he wants, somebody assassinated him.
The only reason she wasn't killed because of her dad.
Okay.
Because they all respected her dad.
Yeah.
And then, and then, and then, um, they took over it.
And when they gave back power, they said, okay, we'll give you back power.
But the military is always a 51% voting block.
Oh.
So maybe that's why they, you can't fully vote them out.
And then they're like, actually, nah.
This is ours now.
Yeah.
Damn.
Wow.
Yeah.
And everybody hates the government there.
Yeah.
Like, I don't want to get anybody in the fucking camps or anything, but I had a lot of like
kind of hush-hust conversations where people were like, yeah, we're terrified.
And they're like, if you're a foreigner, like, they're for sure following you.
Did you feel like that at all?
Did you see anything?
No.
No, it really was.
It felt like this open place.
When I landed, there was a guy was like, I came here 30 years ago on a green piece or whatever,
like Habitat for Humanity kind of thing.
Because I'm so excited to see how it changed because when he was there, it was like,
real like it was worse yeah and then it opened up right around when I was there in like a 10 year
block and then for you back to fucking take over so we weren't worried about it so it was like
free when you were there but also my first week there was a guy who I'll get back to your trip
in a second there was a guy who unplugged a Buddhist prayer service uh-huh because it was outside of his
window okay and the speakers were going it's a grumpy old man thing to do and he was like and then they
put him in jail for like six months the government when you were there
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
They were like, that's way past the line.
Okay.
So that's like the free version of Myanmar.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
And he goes, I didn't know it was a prayer thing.
He goes, fuck off.
Yes, you did.
Yes, 100% you did.
Damn.
So how'd you find it?
What'd you do?
Yeah, just arrived, met this guy.
He showed me around.
He like took me to buy a lousy, like the fucking whatever skirt.
But it, you know, like, I don't, I'm not sure.
Oh, the local guy took it.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm not sure if you've ever been to India, but it felt, I had just gotten out of India.
And I was like on high.
high fucking alert for scams.
Like, I was, every fiber in my being was like, do not scam me.
But I follow this guy against my better judgment.
And he takes me to like the shop, obviously, and like takes me to buy the Lousy.
And I was like, okay, fuck, how much is it?
Like, you know, the guy's got like rotting teeth and like fucking like his hands are all.
Like he might have been homeless.
You know what I mean?
And he saw me as a quick buck, I guess.
And I was like, all right, how much is the fucking skirt?
And it was like $10, which in me and more money is a lot.
Like it's kind of all I brought out for.
the day and I was like fuck okay I'll buy this
and he's like oh yeah we got to like buy this skirt to go to this river but then the river
was closed I don't know I just felt I don't know man it just felt very scam any anything
oh it's closed today I have this other option for you yeah thanks for buying this shit
for like double what it's worth you know that you didn't want in the first place yeah
yeah yeah so I mean it's better than elephant pants yeah that's true but I mean
whatever it's it's all good I mean I don't hold any I gave him like a little bit of cash at the
end of the night just to, you know, whatever, but I found it very unscammy as a country.
Yeah, I think Buddhists are pretty, like, honest.
Yeah, they're just like, we're here to help. That's what we'd love to do, actually.
Yeah. That was the vibe I got. And I think with countries was such a bad reputation, they want,
they need you to like it. You know what I mean? Yeah. How cheap was it? Oh, fucking dirt cheap.
Right. Yeah, dirt cheap. I remember, I actually, a few days later, I went to this beach town called
and I met this guy named Dan
he just like pulled up on a motorcycle
and he's like hey you want to come to a party
and I'm like yeah let's go
and he took me to this bar
where they were serving like
it looked like radioactive mountain dew
like from a barrel
and like the bartender would scoop it out of the barrel
and give it to you and it was five cents
like why are you charging me
I'll give you $5 for the whole barrel
yeah just how about I give you a buck
and you just, like, you just rained it on me all night.
Exactly.
Whoa.
Where was this?
I never got to the beaches.
On the west.
It was, like, the only beach I could find that was, like, open.
Because South was, like, the military coup was going on.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, it's like.
Gee, I never would have known that.
There it is.
Yes, sir, putting on the map, dude.
It was actually kind of pretty there.
Damn.
Yeah.
That's not bad looking.
But, yeah, me and this kid just, like,
like slammed this like radioactive liquor all day got drunk he like drove me around we
crashed a few times they have a resort like this there I don't know maybe I guess
this seems more like it it was very nice and there was no tourists there really nobody no
me and one German guy did you um were there chicks there uh like traveler girls
traveler girls uh no Burmite I okay I do have something from I'm gonna wear
this for this.
All right.
Oh,
hell yeah.
Man,
you got merch for
Myanmar.
Yeah.
You got this from a
fucking market
somewhere and
then I found out later
everyone kept like
looking and we go
ha ha.
I was to say like
f***
or something.
I don't know.
I asked so long
everybody knows.
I think it means
something along the lines
to like chill out.
Okay.
Yeah.
Like a slang.
Yeah.
I don't know
but every time we check it
they're like,
yeah,
nice.
And I'm like,
what?
Yeah.
You just got to imagine the opposite of that,
like a guy from like rural Myanmar showing up to New York City
with a shirt that says like fuck on it or something like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I fuck bitches.
All right, bro.
I'd never pull out.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, Burmese chicks are I would consider the ugliest in the world.
Okay.
All right.
I don't know how you found them.
I honestly don't remember.
I don't, yeah, doesn't really ring any bells on it.
Because you didn't even notice them.
Yeah.
Because they're so ugly.
They look like the men, I guess.
Yeah, you're just like, I don't even register that as a woman.
They have like the beetle teeth.
After like 23, you're like, you're haggard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Stripe has fucking hit your face hard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think anyone knows what this is.
I don't remember, honestly, yeah.
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I'm trying to think.
How are the bathrooms?
Tell me all about it.
I mean, obviously.
Like, it was just like a hole in the ground.
I mean, I remember one night we took a bus,
I think from,
or maybe from the beach to.
And it was like a night bus.
The only one I could find left at like midnight.
But the curfew lasts from like 1 a.m. to like 4 a.m.
They had a curfew?
Yeah, there was a military curfew there.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, yeah.
Not when you were there?
No.
Yeah, I guess I went in a kind of a fucked time.
But, yeah, I drove through the curfew.
We had to, like, park on the side of the road.
And, like, the cops came and checked us and stuff.
There was hell of police checkpoints.
They, like, I had to write my name down, my passport number.
Like, the cops came on the bus.
I can't remember if they had guns or not.
But, yeah, it was intense, man.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Yeah, we had one region in the north that was, like,
they came up to us with guns.
and was like, what are you doing here?
Because we weren't kind of supposed to be there.
Oh, was it, were you hiking or, um.
We were trying to take a, we're trying to take a, a, um, let's get back to your trip
in a second, a shortcut in between, um, I think from, uh, to, to,
but where all the hiking is, right?
Yeah, I didn't do that.
Because I got tried, people were trying to sell me tours there, but I, I, we did like a three-day
hike.
That's cool.
You were camping.
Somewhere to Lake.
Oh, yeah, that's the one.
That's the one I heard about.
Was it nice?
Oh, so cool.
Really?
It met some awesome people from like all over.
Was it dry season or was it?
It was dry season.
Okay.
It gets fucking hot there in the dry season, man.
It definitely didn't rain the whole time.
Yeah.
Yeah, it got hot and then it's super cold at night in the mountains.
Fucking out.
Wait, what did you get into?
Let's talk about you.
What?
In, where are we again?
Burma, me and one.
Do you know why they read it?
Do you know why it's called both those things?
I think the British called it Burma, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you know the story of it?
No, no.
that's so funny
bad press
and the military is like
oh they think we're fucking assholes
let's rename it
oh that's amazing
yeah and then they move the capital
from Yangon to somewhere
like in here
in like the middle somewhere
where no one can go protest
because there's just too far
that is fucking funny
no I remember actually
I wanted to go to the capital
when I was there
because there's this big
like 12 lane highway
but it's completely abandoned
it like leads to the capital
I think that's where the fucking
influencer was doing her little dance
but yeah it's just some big
abandoned highway
that at least of the capital
but never made it there.
How are influencers now at hostels?
Like where?
Kind of all over.
See, I don't fuck with hostels
that much anymore, man.
Like, I want to get like a good night's rest.
Fair.
You know, like my back's fucked.
Influences and hostels?
I don't know, because I don't really go
to like the regular places that much anymore.
Where do you go out there?
Yeah, my girlfriend spent a lot of time.
She was at a hostel in Tulum, actually.
There was actually like a boutique
when it was nice,
cringe as you can imagine but yeah but yeah well to loom yeah just wondering what the life is like now
with everyone like photographing themselves and talking to their screens yeah i don't know man
it's been so long since i've been to like a regular ass place with a regular ass hostel i mean obviously
me and mar i mean everybody there was making some kind of content but honestly like i kind of support
that because it's like who the fuck goes to me and mar like let's see let's see more of it you know what i mean
yeah yeah fair it's the only way you're gonna get like info out yeah so what did you get into so you went
from there to the beach.
Yeah, dude.
I was, I touched on this earlier,
but I met this alcoholic taxi driver.
Like, he just drove me around on a motorcycle,
but he was like hammered, hammered blackout drunk.
While he was driving?
While he was driving.
We crashed twice.
I still got back on the bike.
I was hammered, too.
We just, like, went on a little booze cruise
around the beach.
It was so fucking fun, dude.
I want to go back and do it again.
Do you ever, your parents still alive?
Yes.
Do they say your stuff ever and be like,
don't please stop doing that they hated it when I was like broke like when I was making the
Myanmar videos and I was like crashing and like you know like getting detained and all this shit
like come on why are you doing this and now that it's actually like mildly successful they're like
all right we love this now really just results based I guess yeah sometimes I imagine I'm doing
something like that drunk drunk driving with a fucking guy with a limp you know his teeth are rotting
out of his fucking face and I imagine my mom just seeing me like from above going no absolutely not
off the bike or just like oh please stop yeah please please please we're worried every time i go to
china my parents are like having a heart attack for sure you go a lot i've been a couple times but
every time like just come home as soon as you can get get the video come back like china's safe though
right it's okay i mean i was pushing some buttons there but you know whatever okay all right so
tell me more about me and mar uh yeah so um honestly the best adventure i had was in like driving around
with this kid he got like so drunk he like couldn't talk anymore how did you meet him he
literally just pulled up to me on the side of the road and was like hello my friend like how are you
he was already hammered it was like nine in the morning and he's like hey let's go to a party and
I'm like let's go and I got on the bike it was a crowded bar like full of people like there's so
many alcoholics in Myanmar did you meet these people did you see that one in the in that town where
there was a guy who kept like following us and talking to us and we're trying to like
converse with them and then someone else comes up to us like charitably it goes hey this man he's he's a
he's a he's a fool I'm like oh town drunk yeah we were trying to talk to him he's the town drunk
yeah but I mean harmless right oh totally yeah they just want to chat the guy was like you don't
that he's not actually giving any information he's like you're talking to a homeless guy
you're talking to a homeless guy you get that sheen of tourism where you're like oh oh my god friendly local
wow
you pull out the camera
like amazing
yeah yeah yeah but um
were they just coming up with you as a white
were they like
yeah they're like what the fuck are you doing here
they're like don't you know it's a bad time to visit
and I was like yeah yeah
but you know love of the game
yeah I mean pretty much everybody
was like what are you doing here like they weren't
unhappy that I was there but they were confused
like genuinely they're like what is this like
yeah why are you here
you know
yeah right like what like
they're not
not this isn't cool here yeah why like Thailand is literally right next door like go to
thailand you know what I mean yeah go get your smoothie and you know get a lady boy to
suck your balls like I don't know why that's the way to go yeah yeah yeah time I's right there
yeah but the land borders are unfortunately closed with Myanmar because I think that's where all
the conflict is that's where they're like often a group well they're like I think all
the skirmishes are happening near the borders like especially towards the south
because the best beaches I've found on Google Maps at least are in the south but I couldn't go
like I couldn't find a bus to go there all these down here yeah I think there's a train that goes
there but I went to the train station and they didn't let me board because I was a what really so yeah
yeah they didn't let me get on there was like guys with guns like no you can't yeah they're like
you can't be like what do you mean we're at a hotel like yeah but not for you what I mean
white oh they're like this is not for like foreigners can't stay in this like region in this
County. Oh shit. That's when you were in the north and they like stopped you. Yeah. So we were
trying to take like instead of like going this, we just looked at it like from here from this city
to this at Inlay Lake to somewhere or maybe Bugonda somewhere. Okay. Could have been
but it was like this to get there and we're like let's just take like a van. And there's a reason
that it was a yeah we thought we're outsmarting everything. Yeah. We'll stop for the night. I got this
hat at some market that we shut down with our skin. You know like people coming up taking
pictures. It was just like as my friend Derek was like walking, if I could see him, there
was like a title, you know the wave at a baseball game? It was that with everyone's like cooking
stuff and I go and then back to like cooking. Just a 5 foot 11. Yeah. What? Yeah. Did you find
that a lot? Yeah, of course. I mean, I think that's, it's, I don't know, I talk about this on my podcast
sometimes, the small brain podcast. Small brain podcast. Um, yeah, I just talk about my travels and stuff.
But I find that, like, white privilege is a funny thing abroad because it, like, gets you out of so many jams, like, being where any country being white is like a privilege.
But also, like, it fucks you in some places.
Like, in India, you're fucked if you don't have a local.
You are fucked if you don't have, like, a brown person with you.
What?
Hawkers?
Yes, dude.
Like, they just see you as a walking wallet.
They're like, oh, the British came in.
They have this, like, victim mentality.
They're like, oh, well, you guys fucked us, so we're going to fuck you type thing.
Oh, interesting.
But, you know, in Myanmar, I didn't feel like it was ever a problem.
I felt like it was, you know, the white privilege prevailed.
I like, tell me right or wrong.
I like Myanmar because it was like not set up enough for tourism where they're trying to come out yet.
Like, my friend Jay used to live in the upper, like, middle, west, west side.
And it's like just a desolate area.
Okay.
And his chick was like, I'm afraid of getting like here.
And then DeRosa was like, they don't even come here.
No one's here.
They wouldn't come.
Like, there's no robbers.
There's nothing to get.
Yeah.
Like, nobody fishes in, like, on dry land.
There's no market.
Yeah.
So, like, that, where it's like, we're not set up to fleece tourists.
Yeah, exactly.
Which is really nice.
It was really not.
Honestly, I feel like those places, a lot of Middle Eastern countries are the same way.
Like, Iraq.
I'm sure Afghanistan is like this.
Iran.
Like, they're just never see tourists.
So, like, when they do, they're like, oh, my God, welcome.
Like, I'm so sorry about our government, this, that, and the other.
And they kind of put forth, like, more effort to, like, make you feel.
comfortable. I felt that way in Myanmar for sure. People were very sweet there. It was wild. That
was the vibe. Yeah. We're here to like actually it's our religion to make you feel
comfortable and like get you where you going. Yeah. Yeah. I mean they're so sweet. It's kind of
like Southeast Asians in general are really sweet. Thai people. Vietnamese people are really
sweet. Cambodians are kind of like standoffish I found. Maybe Laosians too. I'm not sure
I never been. But Myanmar people were like above and beyond like the friendliest Southeast Asians I
I'd ever met so I think it's a Buddhism must be yeah must be I met some people on a bus
to to begone and they were like everyone's like talking like how do you like it and they're like
it's a couple and they were like listen I know everybody's had this great experience of all we've got
was scammed and they're like I understand we're the outliers and we just got unlucky we've been
like scam like six times maybe they're the problem where did they look naive did they have a look
to them? No, they were just like, everyone's trying to get over on us. Everyone's trying to upsell us.
Everyone's... But they were like fully aware. They weren't like, fuck. They were like, I get it.
We definitely got unlucky. Because we've heard enough people say, we're just here to help.
Yeah. Interesting. I find places like that, Columbia is the same way. Like, you'll get fucked hard.
You'll get robbed or whatever, scammed, whatever it is. And then 10 minutes later, you meet like the nicest lady you've ever met. Like, I'm so sorry about that. Like, come to my shop. I'll give you free, whatever the fuck.
I'm so sorry about that. You know what I mean? Like, it feels like they're compensating for something.
I don't know have you found that
Like in kind of off the beaten path places
The further off you get
The more they're like
You're not the way we're going to make money
That's a good point
You know
It's like everybody else in the big towns
It's like we're fishing and you're fish
Yeah
No harm
Yeah that's the way I felt in India for sure
It was very much like
You have to be like on full alert
Like where are the scams
Because they're out there
You just have to like
It makes you such
It makes you a way better traveler
Going to India honestly
Really?
if you've never been i mean i wouldn't personally recommend it you'll have like a terrible time
like guaranteed you'll have a bad time but it makes you a better traveler dude literally i'm so
conflicted about india because everyone talks about how awful it is and then like you got to go
yeah right it's like i don't want to look at beautiful buildings but i hold my breath yeah i honestly
i just wouldn't go i wouldn't go to pakistan go to pakistan it's better okay
people are nice they're muslim they're they're like honest as fuck oh i went for seven days i didn't
spend any money like not one dollar not one dollar people let me stay at their house people
give me free chai i walked around a market i got like seven free chies my head was like spinning
all the caffeine and sugar and free cababs and shit it doesn't matter bro like Pakistan they're
like look we're here to help it's very much what we're just talking about but like times a million
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Was there any fucking going on at the hostels?
No, dude, just me and the Chinese guy
sleeping next to you, that was all that was there.
I mean, there was like, yeah,
I think it was like a college running the hostel.
Oh.
It was like young girls and stuff,
and they all spoke English and they were very friendly and stuff.
but everyone was just young there
it felt like some kind of like community service
like YMCA type thing it was a bit strange honestly
like all the tourist infrastructure in Myanmar is a bit odd
I remember I was in the ancient city
I think you went there and uh it was the coolest place
I like rented a bike for the day it was like five bucks or something
e-bike yeah just a little scooter
you know why that is uh I don't know something
dictatorship I'm not sure you can't
foreigners can't rent electric I'm sorry
motorized vehicles.
Is that because of the president or whatever?
She's like half foreign or whatever.
It was like one of those things.
They just don't want foreigners renting cars.
And so e-bike, it's electronics.
They charge them.
So that's the way around it.
Yeah.
I mean, honestly, I guess they don't want to be
the next Thailand.
What do you mean?
Well, it's just like overrun.
Bali's the same way.
Like just the streets are just crammed with
ignorant whites, you know?
Yeah.
But yeah, I like took a little scooter
and rode around these little fucking pagodas.
Talk about this place.
Dude, I felt like, yeah,
I felt like Indiana Jones.
Yes
100%
It was sick
It's so fucking cool
It was sick yeah
Describe it
You go into a pagoda
And there's like
Ivy everywhere
And you have to like
It's like shrouded
And there's like this
Perfectly preserved
Hand painted
I'm sure a hand sculpted
Like Buddha statue
That who knows how long it's been there
I mean it's an ancient capital
It's been there for a couple thousand years
I think it's like the oldest
Religious site in the world
Maybe that's Cambodia
It's like it's oh yeah
Maybe in Kuwait
maybe but it's like it goes on forever it's huge it's huge so my friend turner told me about it
it was one of two things for southeast asia was that and uh what are those big like in the in the
in the ocean by like northern vietnam oh yeah never made it's a made it to early and it was just like
it's just like i don't even know how big it is like 10 by 10 kilometers no i have no idea
it's huge i think it was the ancient capital of me and marcia that's why and they i asked
the locals and they're like oh yeah it's these these are like paying homage to the monks or something
like that um like i guess a monk dies that one's fucking awesome that one's like yeah there was
there was some tourist ones and some like not but the not ones were way better way better because
you go in and it's just like what the fuck dude like i feel like i'm uncovering this for the i feel like
you're making archaeological progress right now you really do you go and you're like you're on like
a dirt road on an e-bike by yourself i assume yeah and then you're just like
I'll go wherever I want.
You can't see, because there don't look like a lot of trees,
but it's enough to block your view.
Yeah, on the bike for sure.
Yeah, and then you just, why I just keep doing this?
And then you just come across a fucking,
yeah, some like temple.
Yeah, and you're just, it's the only one in there.
Actually, I went to one where there were,
I saw two motorbikes parked outside.
Yeah.
And then I heard music playing and I was like,
I think people are fucking in this one.
I'm almost certain they were fucking in there.
Because it was like quiet.
I was like, I walked in there,
kind of like you know what's going on
and it just got totally silent
I was like they're fucking for sure
and I just left you left
yeah that's nice
yeah I mean you know
it's weird to stand over something yeah
I'm not gonna be like actually this is
I'm on vacation and you know
do you take your shoes off when you went in
no fuck no dude it's like there's like spikes
everywhere like ants and I went in this one
it was like a five foot ant hill
it's like uh
I heard the UNESCO what won't make it a national
heritage site because they don't do upkeep
yeah oh you know what in a couple of them they had brooms though and i like swept up after myself
it was like kind of on your own terms because the buddhist statue was there and i was like he's
watching me bro i gotta oh yeah there's a there's a there's a buddhist hell yeah dude i went in like
a bunch of them and then and then like i went out off to my fifth one and someone is like
taking their shoes off and going in i was like you're like oh man i'm an asshole damn it yeah
going to hell going to buddhist hell now did you find any steps on any of them steps what do you
mean like in secret passages yeah honestly no no no no the only ones I went I went in like one big
one and then like one big touristy one that you pay to admit to and then I just went in a bunch of
small ones the small ones interested me a little more I don't know why if no one's in him
nobody honestly I mean you know especially with the tourist infrastructure as it is like I'm
sure no one's been in there in like years you know it was it was like it'd be like something like
this right where it's like you go in and then there was like to me I was like okay fine and then
the out on the corners there's like a little arch and it's just like a little vestibule yeah and then
one of them there was like a passage and you're like oh and some steps oh you went up and then it
goes like to up top to up like here and you can go interesting yeah probably everyone felt like
indana jones yeah and they're all different some of them have like shrines that are like upkept
like i felt like they had like the equivalent like catholic rosaries kind of thing like they had flowers
and like water and i can't even remember i might be like mixing this up with japan but like
like cigarettes and stuff, like at the shrines.
I don't really remember.
But there was one that was like next to somebody's house, bro.
Like I was on their property.
Just like using my white privilege to the fullest extent.
I was like, I'm just going.
Walt's in here.
This is mine now.
It feels good to use.
Yeah, it does.
Like you have it.
Yeah, you might as well use it.
It's like not cashing in a lottery ticket.
That's crazy.
Yeah, you're right.
Cash it in.
Yeah.
For all my minority friends, I have to use this, you know.
You see this?
Yeah, yeah, I did.
But honestly, the hot air balloons,
I feel like you pay the white tax.
to do that. That was like 100, 200 bucks, so I didn't do it. I didn't do it. I just saw it. One of my
friends, my Danish friend did it. But there was like a sunrise thing. Did you go sunrise for this?
Nah, I was only like two nights. Okay. Yeah. Did you? Yeah, it was like, go here, go to anywhere
for the sunset. That's easier. But then like scope out some ones where you can find acts because
it was like pitch black. Okay. Find access to like a stairwell. Yeah. And like go up with some
Israeli chick. And it was like, all right, let's go there in the dark dark. Like you put a pin on your
maps up me yeah so you don't get lost yeah and then you get there because there's no roads
just all dirt roads yeah and then you get there like let's sit up there it's freezing cold and then
the sun comes up first it's like you know when the sunrise like first like i can see before the
sun's up yeah dusky and then the sun and then these hot air buildings and i guess the mist like
over the pagodas and stuff it was so just reveals this field of fields the wrong term it's like a
city of yeah i mean it's kind of like an old atlantis in a way because it's like this ancient
civilization that's just like overgrown now you know yeah it's no it's i've never seen a place like
this yeah it's incredible i feel like it's similar to anchor watt but there's nobody there man like
an anchorot you pay the tourist tax and you have to take like a government fucking honestly all the
unESCO world heritage sites piss me off because they just have like all the brain dead
pigies there like and then you get chakos and their Hawaiian shirts and and you get the fucking
chinese yeah yeah that's a whole that's a whole other thing the german the german
are nothing compared to the Chinese.
When you say like Germans are the worst, okay?
So there's two things you're talking about.
Like Germans are the worst of the whites.
But if you include Chinese.
No, Chinese are like first.
Oh, we're not even talking about that.
Gold medal, dude.
Gold standard for ruining places.
Even in China.
Even in China, I was on a tour bus and a tour guide got on the bus with a megaphone
and was shouting, first of all, shouting an amplified sound.
I say that as I'm shouting into a mic,
into an enclosed space.
Like, what could you possibly be saying that's so important?
Like breakfast is at noon?
Breakfast is at 11?
Like, what is so important?
If the bus is not on fire, like, shut the fuck up, you know?
And they have the little flags and.
I'm remembering that one of my images of why Chinese suck is in watching a sunset on one of the main ones in main temples and a Chinese guy with an iPad filming it in front of us.
get out of here
who fills on iPhone
who brings an iPad out
it's an in the house tool
yeah
it's like you don't think
your fucking phone
takes the picture
that can extend to that
he probably has like a Huawei
like foldable
like $2,000 phone anyways
like he's living in the future
like it's all the same size
it depends on the player
you fucking fool also like you think
you're going to take a better
professional photo just buy one
like just buy a photo
or just Google it
Yeah.
Just fucking Google it.
I mean, yeah, this shit is better than anything you're going to take.
Yeah.
Anything.
Yeah.
I will say, like, I developed a soft spot for the Chinese in China.
They're, like, they're cute.
The tourists are cute.
But I lived in Japan, and that's where I developed my first hatred of the Chinese.
In Japan.
Yeah, I think I, like, the secondhand racism, like, rubbed off on me a little bit, you know.
Bro, I love seeing inner racism of people like, oh, it's just like Asian and Asian.
Like, or like, Latino, Latino.
Like, oh, talk to about Guatemalan.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And especially, like, in the States, they love to blame the Venezuelans.
Like, a Cuban would, like, we'll hate the Venezuelans, you know?
Yeah, and we're like, oh, you guys were all Mexican to us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We have no idea what you're talking about.
Exactly, yeah.
I thought that was your cousin.
Yeah.
That's not when you go to Israel, like, which side's which?
I don't know.
Both you guys need showers.
Chinese are a very specific thing.
Yeah.
It's, they bring with them a certain sense of.
Entitlement. It's like they're kind of like the Americans of the Eastern world, but like bigger and better like four times as big more racist, you know
Chinese are racist? Chinese are horribly racist, yeah, for sure. Bring up Vietnam or Indonesia or the Philippines then are like scum, you know. Oh, so the jungle Asians. Yeah, it's like East Asia versus South Asia, Southeast Asia. Yeah, they're all just horribly racist. It's funny.
how they all look at like if you ask them to rank them
yeah it's very clear
all the jungle Asians are like in a group
which is like Indo Thailand Burma
yeah Cambodia whatever
Vietnam I don't know
and then Korea China and Japan
are like not the jungle
ones I guess I don't know yeah it's kind of like
Korea versus China versus Japan
and I guess a good argument could be made
for all of them for getting on a brass tax
but and then
that's them versus like everybody and I feel like
probably Philippines or like Indonesia's like at the bottom if I were to say not my
personal ranking by the way this is not I think Burma's got to be ranked I think that
that's got to be like oh we're not obviously the other words we're not talking about
them they're not even in the running but what I will say is I think Burma has a lot of
business with Japan like did you see those Japanese signs everywhere okay and I saw a lot
of Japanese like businessmen and stuff not a lot but like I saw a few enough to be like
what the fuck interesting
Yeah, there's got to be like, there's got to be like Oklahoma City just, or Oklahoma legalized a few years ago, weed.
And there was like, but they're like, we're not doing regulation.
So we're going to let the market decide.
Wow, less.
Yeah.
And so all these like growers like, let's get out there.
A green, it's a, the, like the green, whatever they called for like San Francisco when they were going.
Oh, the green rush?
Yeah, the green rush.
Okay.
Yeah.
And they were all going out there for whatever.
I'm sure in a place like Burma, the like the possibility, sure the government might take everything.
but also maybe I can actually like
Yeah
Make a fucking thing
Yeah the human trafficking possibilities are endless
I'm sure
Like probably get anything you want across the border
You just grease the right palms
You know
Yeah
Yeah it's wild out there man
How long do you stay in a man
Just like two three days
Because I mean honestly
That's about right
So like I fucking
I was in like four days
I stupidly like booked
A two week trip
Yeah
Just because I had time to kill
I was going to meet my girlfriend in Thailand
a little later on
and just the dates didn't line up
so I wanted to kill some time in Burma
big fucking mistake
I should have killed time in Thailand
because I was in
I was there way too long bro
like I the military coup was like
actively happening around in like
you couldn't go past like a certain river
because like you could hear gunfire
no yeah yeah I know that river
like there's a big tourist thing
jumping in them there's like there's a temple there
yeah like a touristy thing there's like vendors
and yeah
Yeah. And then they're like, no, you just, you can't go.
Like, we usually do tours out there, but you can't go now because they're fighting.
And they're like, they might be done fighting in a week or two, but for now you can't go.
Wow.
Yeah. So that was fucked.
And then I have, there's that temple I remember finally understanding what it means to be like, I was with four Canadian chicks, just met them up with them.
And people were taking pictures with them.
It was like the tourists, the Myanmar tourists, I mean, going to like the temple.
Right.
from the world and they're like what the fuck a white and then they were like taking pictures
with them yeah and then changing clothes and getting back in line and take another picture
with the whites with the whites yeah to like this should start charging them okay here you take
this give me your hat like I get a picture with you that's amazing okay wow so you're the tourist
attraction at that point yeah a blonde a blonde white chick is like yeah a god you ever travel
with a black guy yeah tell me oh no I've never done it I've never done it but I've seen like
videos of them in China like just touching the afro and stuff
in the afro we had one and we went to that town where we were in trouble they just kept touching
his hair because he had dreads and he was like excuse me like yeah you're a commodity to us
you're not a person wow yeah you have these black women here like don't touch my hair like yeah
good luck in me and mark good luck lady holy shit yeah but yeah i said a little too long you can hear
gunfire across the river yeah yeah yeah yeah it was bad it was bad for sure um and uh what i was
in that hostel. I got like a little beach bungalow that, you know, in the U.S. would be like
$3,400 easily. It was $5 a night. Or maybe, no, maybe $9. I think $9. Yeah, I paid $18
for two nights. But it was like a shack. Like it didn't really have walls. It just had like bamboo and
stuff. It had plumbing. Yeah. But ants were everywhere. And I mean, and then did they have
the rolling blackouts when you were there? Like for certain hours of the day, there's no power.
Like predictably every day for like four hours at a time. You wouldn't
that power. You went in a different time that I went. Yeah, bro. It's great. It wasn't that long ago.
Yeah. I guess a lot of shit changes there, man. Their history is fucked. I think they've basically
just been fucked for like centuries at civil war with each other. So it's like all of South America
where like is it's like no, no, no, you got to read the today it is. Yeah. It's like the weather.
It's like, no, gang stuck over the country now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we just looked at El Salvador.
We're like, we can't go there. And then we look like completely safe. It's very safe. They have a new
dictator. He's doing a great job.
I think my, one of the, my old laundromat, he was a Filipino.
I'm like, I hate this new guy.
I goes, why would I hate him?
He cleaned up the drugs.
Like, I heard he's executed people like, drug addicts.
I'm like, oh, all right.
Yeah, you think you're going to find common ground?
And they're like, marijuana is the devil's lettuce.
Like, we can't have that.
Yeah, damn, that's a different time.
It's crazy how much it changed that fast.
But I said a little too long, and I was in that little beach bungalow with, like,
bullshit for walls, a little bamboo.
And I could hear, like, the jeeps in the night taking people.
like three four in the morning and I'd go to the hostel owner German guy who'd been there for
like decades you know you'd imagine like fucking sunburn with like tattoos and like a little weird
like man bun thing and I was like what was that in the middle of the night he's like oh yeah they
found people and they took them like rebels like in the fucking village I was staying in
what's a junta do you know oh no some kind of militant I think yeah I don't know but they were
like the junta's I don't I never know if the jontas were on the side of the government or not
I think junta is the name of the government oh I think that's an
in the government yeah and then they have like on all these places columbia too they have like
different types of rebels and then if one makes peace they're like well now we're your enemy or like we
want to take over in a different way to use so we fight and then we fight against the government
columbia is like a rat's nest of like extremists they have like the commune anarcho communists
this is going to be a wildly inaccurate podcast but oh everyone like you're way wrong like we don't
it's just our experience we're not looking up anything yeah we're definitely way wrong
That's right.
You're like, I went to a place.
There was fair food everywhere.
It was great.
Like, that's because there was a fair.
Yeah.
Makes sense.
Right, right, right, right.
Dan, you could hear, who were they against?
Just the rebels?
I think it was like, like small militant groups, like farmers, like defending their land from being taken over.
And then I'm sure you've seen the photos of, by the way, we'll never be able to go back to me more after this podcast.
But I've seen videos of like the government, like burning fields, like burning houses of, it's fucked, dude.
If you literally just type in, I tell my viewers this sometimes, literally just type in,
Myanmar News, and it will be like the most horrific story.
Here we go.
It's also the ethnic minority.
They're also like, let's clean that up too.
Yeah, yeah.
Myanmar, oh, okay.
Oh, yeah.
Over 400 of fear drowned two shipwrecks.
Yeah.
Yep.
so maybe it's getting a little better
this doesn't look too bad
Myanmar soldiers flee to Thailand
after rebels attack
that's how you know it's bad
if the soldiers are like
Iro Wadi that's the river
okay that does sound familiar
that does sound familiar
we saw these people jumping in there
there's like locals and just like taking their shirts
all these kids it was like so cool
no gunfire was it like a holy
thing they were doing or just for fun
no it was nearby that big temple
oh you know I went to that it's like a beach
it's like a little white sandy kind of yeah i had a little picnic there with gunfire on the back well i mean
it's like yeah it's not every i mean if the locals are chill i'm like you know i got a scooter so
do you have a rule for safety when you go these places or do you just i don't know man it really
depends it depends on if like the video idea is good enough i mean sometimes i'll do some really
dumb shit to make a good video but not really i mean i check the state department just but it
doesn't really doesn't huh it's i wish it would be more specific like
don't travel to Iraq.
It's like, really?
Like, it's, it's really actually perfectly fine.
I wish you'd be more accurate with your, like, this neighborhood is bad or this
neighborhood is bad, you know, but.
Yeah, yeah, instead of just go, eh, why, why go there?
And you're like, I don't have fun, adventure.
Tell me what I need to know.
Dude, I was in a fucking cafe this morning talking with this guy.
And I was telling him, like, oh, yeah, Iraq was perfectly safe.
I had a great time.
I felt more safe walking around in Baghdad at night than I do in Atlanta.
And this old lady turned around and gave me like this.
nastiest look like her son had died in Iraq or something who knows but she she wanted to make it
known like I do not approve of what you're saying and then she like stormed off and you're like a lady
we're not at war anymore we won yeah like we instilled their entire government like it's good because
of us yeah my son die I'm like getting it safe from me that's right yeah I mean I don't know my
great great great grandfather drove out the British but they're they're out exactly yeah now they're
just like they have the best molly now that's right best ketamine yeah yeah always trust a
britt for powder that's right that's right um do you ever go to any of these places and be like
actually this is sketchy i'm turning around yeah um i feel like shinjong china was pretty
sketchy like the whole alleged genocide happening there like we got followed by police um and
we got detained a couple times that was as bad as they say for sure like even going
from the border of Kyrgyzstan just to like the next city over in China like a four hour journey
I think like 120 kilometers it shouldn't take long especially on a highway dude in America that would
take you fucking 30 minutes you know I mean it took us 12 hours in China checkpoints checkpoints every like
seven kilometers or maybe I'm exaggerating it was like every 30 minutes we're at a checkpoint
like what are you going to pick up inside that time it's like once you get on the jersey turnpike
you don't have to go through another toll until you're off and they checked our passport and they
asked what asked us what we're doing at every they didn't have bathrooms they didn't have
have water at the checkpoints nothing there was no like accommodation at all it was just like are
you Muslim yes or no like okay you can go it was fucked man damn yeah that was pretty serious
that was probably one of the most serious on that picture oh nice just changed oh it's your little
now it's grease but yeah oh these are your photos yeah nice it's all blocked but
beautiful um yeah that was as bad as I say I feel like most places that were fine I mean the thing
is that with war like it was the same when I was in Ukraine like I was
in Lviv and Kiev and stuff and everything was fine like and I mean I'm sure soldiers would
tell you the same thing like everything's fine until it's not like one day Putin was just like hey
I might launch some nukes into Kiev and I was like I'm out like you will you'll hear the news
enough to go yeah yeah it can just change on a dime so you see that interview with this guy saying
the best time to go to a place is right after a bombing fucking legend fucking and everyone's
like oh right yeah yeah I wouldn't go after two straight bombings because now it seems habitual
right but after one they might have a chronic issue at that point
Yeah, then it's like, oh, there's just always going on.
Well, it's like right now flights into Newark or cheaper because like all the fucking crashes and stuff.
Yeah, air traffic controllers are getting fired.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Got to find a time to get right in there.
The sweet spot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Talk about Chinloon.
That ball game.
Oh, yeah.
I just saw it with my buddy.
We were just, yeah, just chewing beetlenut and doing that, smoking cigarettes.
It was just like the bros.
Yeah.
How much did you play there?
I tried playing once.
Here's the ball.
It's kind of tough, isn't it?
But it's a soccer thing.
It's a volleyball
Oh, I didn't see them play with the net
I just saw him fucking around on the sidewalk
So that too
When we were in that town
Where the government's like you shouldn't be here
We had to get a special dispensation
From a guy like
All right we're gonna let you stay
But like this is in this is trouble
Like don't don't fuck with anything
Don't make yourself known too much
Interesting
And I stole this key by accident
Hit a hard key
And I took him
Fuck he was so nice
But they were playing hacky sack out there
They were like really wanted to
But it's this
They play with a fucking
Oh shit
I have not seen
getting over a net and so it's like that i saw that my first day i was like walking by the river
and it was like they were just doing this that's but they get up so crazy oh i bet you get some
gnarly concussions doing that yeah but i mean they get their leg up so high just roundhouse
kicked to the face bro yeah holy shit the flexibility the flexibility the Asians
yeah it's all that squatter is he have an american flag bandana on his head maybe right
hilarious
You ever see
What's this?
Everyday
Yeah
Some nonsense
Some nonsense English
You ever see these like
These like
Definitely left behind
Like U.S.
Oh shit
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
I've never
I've
I pray to find like a
You know
Like Pittsburgh Steelers
Like fucking Super Bowl
Like
The losers
Yes
I found one
Really
I saw a bunch
of Texas Rangers
Baseball team
champion and I was like wait when was that
I don't remember that
and then I looked it up and I was like oh yeah
they lost this is the city that got it
I forgot what town it was
what country was Southeast Asia
and it was like did you get one
no I wasn't like for sale I just saw
I saw like one guy wearing I was like oh weird and I saw like two
more and I'm like how do they all have this shirt
oh my god
yeah I should have tried to buy it off one of them
just give them $100 be like dude look
this is hanging up in the studio
I'm gonna change your fucking life
your family's life I'm gonna lift your
family out of poverty for generations.
I got to show this picture my friend took of like this perfectly, these two guys
with their leg up.
That's amazing.
Perfectly like trying to smash this ball down.
I don't know how to get it up.
They get their leg up and they hit down on it.
That is crazy.
Do women play it or is it just men?
I only saw men.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did you see the, um, the Burmese like MMA?
It's like bare knuckle like MMA.
what is it
I don't know what it's called
but I was trying to make a video there
when I was there
there was like some tournament on
but I ended up like
getting sidetracked
and doing something else
I don't know if
MMA is the right word for it
it's something
but I don't think they use gloves man
like it's fucked
like it's super bloody
and really
oh maybe this
that seems like tie boxing
Burmese boxing
maybe I'm just making this up
who knows
doubt it maybe you just saw a street fight
But there it is
Yeah, yeah
They're fucking
For Myanmar with blood
There you go
The guy with the bare knuckles
Like bottom left kind of
This
This
Up right
And down
That one
Oh
Ooh
Ooh
That's Singapore
Maybe I'm wrong
For Myanmar with blood
The Singapore
Oh let the way
That's what it is
Yeah it's
Bear knuckle MMA
bro
These guys are just like
bloodied
And there's like a whole underground fighting scene.
I really want to go there and make a video about it.
You're familiar with blood.
I bleed whenever I am in the ring.
I also injure my opponent and make him bleed too.
It's one of the fighters.
Yeah.
Oh, wait, they're on gloves there though.
Maybe I'm a liar.
But it's supposed to be pretty brutal.
Maybe they got it safer.
You can use your head and shit.
Really?
Yeah, like you can head butt people.
There was like some big tournament there when I was there.
That's cool.
Do you try to do stuff like this, like sports and things?
Yeah, I do enjoy sports for sure.
Like in Japan, I've been to a lot of baseball games.
Dude, Donnie told me about this fucking game in Turkmenistan or Tajikistan maybe.
Yeah.
Where they have these like horse riders and they take like a goat corpse and they try to get it across the, it's like soccer, but with like a goat corpse and they're all riding horses.
Yeah.
And they have like crow bars and they're like trying to push it into the fucking end zone.
Really?
Yeah.
My friend Zane just did one of these.
He went to Kazakhstan for the Nomad games.
That's badass.
And he was filming them.
That's bad ass.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's bare knuckle.
Just taped up a little bit.
Yeah, there you go.
That's more like it, yeah.
I guess it looks a little like Thai boxing, but that makes sense because it's like right their neighbor.
Yeah, exactly.
Empty arena.
I know.
I do this thing.
It would be so amazing to go there and, and like film it.
But yeah, I do try to do sports.
I really want to go to like a rugby game, like in Pakistan or something.
I think it would be fucking sick.
Yeah, and then baseball in Japan is always a good time.
The girls with like the little straps, the little, have you seen this?
They have the little backpacks with kegs on them.
And you just run, you're like, Sima Sen, and they run up as fast as they can.
They have knee pads, and they just like squat down.
They pour you a draft beer, and it's like five bucks.
Wow.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It's life-changing.
I went in DR baseball game.
Oh, I bet that was fun.
It was so fun.
Poole was supposed to play, but he was like only playing one out of every three days.
Interesting.
He's like his great Major League Baseball player, but he retired like 42.
He's like, I make the rules.
I play one out of every three games.
Yeah, but he goes, it's my dream to actually play where I grew up.
I never played pro here.
I played straight in the major.
So, like, but he's like, I'm old, though, chill.
Yeah.
So he didn't play that game, but, like, the power went out in, like, the seventh inning.
Oh, no.
Just people getting stabbed.
No, it was pretty safe.
Everyone was drinking rum, but it was just like, it was nice, but it was like.
But then the first thing to come back on was the speakers, and they just started blasting, like,
let's go.
Like dance music, and everybody just fucking going for.
it you know and it was like this is wild drinking rum everyone's dance party until they got the
lights back on that is sick dude was it was the sundown or was it like sun's down so it's dark
it was pretty dark that's yeah they had one of those like emergency lights like a little bit
you could sort of see and moonlight too yeah god i was like what is this that's amazing and they're
the number one team i think it was tequist delisi i think it was like the top team the yankees of
the place that's amazing yeah it's like i feel like when latinos were in the u.s
or like talking on speaker phone or like they have a speaker in the gym or something i'm like
shut the fuck out like come on but when you go to their country like i get it dude like this is beautiful
this is amazing yeah yeah yeah it's amazing do you like take invites from people to like go just if
someone's like come out to our house for for dinner yeah i almost never say no almost never it's got me
in some trouble but um what do you mean well i i think i may have ended up in like iraqi propaganda
in Iraq
Are you worried about getting people in trouble with your videos?
Yeah, I blur faces
And I have like good information about like where I am
I'll ask a local, be like, hey, what do you think of this?
Like I'll run some footage by people and be like, is this too much?
Right.
Yeah
We were in Cuba, I got real worried
Because I just saw some Kirk Cowes video
He was like, I sort of was talking to some hookers
And then those hookers like disappeared for 15 years
and it was like oh I'm like just blur everybody
I don't even know what the rules are
take the video down if that's like
it's not that hard I think it was like too late
oh yeah yeah
but it was like yeah I don't know what the laws are here
so I'm like isn't this interesting this guy's doing that
what the fuck you don't show that
yeah I think any crime
you definitely shouldn't be filming I mean I tried to film a video
one time in the Bronx and people were like
don't put me on camera and I think people will tell you
if they don't want to be filmed type thing
I think it's just when people don't know they're being filmed
and then you get them doing something like illegal.
But I mean, acting a fool, like the guy in Myanmar, like I had some hesitations about that
video for sure, like drunk driving.
We crashed a couple times.
And dude, at the end of the night, I paid for everything.
And then he and his buddy asked like for some more money.
And I was like, you're just going to drink this.
Like I paid for the whole fucking day.
Like we're all blackout drunk.
Like, why do you need more money?
So I said no.
And they drove off and I ended up doing something else.
I think I was like in the shower or something.
And they fucking crashed into into my hotel later in the day.
It came back and crashed again.
You're just going to drink with us.
Like, yeah, right.
What do you mean?
Yeah, you're going to drink it too.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Myanmar was a fucking trip.
I think the characters there were like unparalleled in all my travels.
Like, because you have like the sweetness of the Southeast Asians.
And then they're like kind of a hermit kingdom of Southeast Asia.
They're kind of like the North Korea.
So you have like this, all this allure.
And like they're like, who are you?
you hear and it's just like so much chemistry
between the locals you know I don't know if you
found that but what do you mean chemistry between
the local well like between you and the locals
like they're so curious and they never see
foreigners and they're just so fucking secluded
it's like they were so friendly
yeah so this one
when we were on that trip it was like a two day trip
because we're like let's let's go vans
and whatever we got off one and they were like you can't
stay here they get us they may just get on the phone
and you're going no we're going up to
from to
to
forget exactly but like you were out there yeah it was when instead of doing this we went straight
out but like let's do two hours get out stay for the night explore do another two hours stay for the
night explore and then go to where we're going yeah yeah um but what was I going to say oh the lady
got on the phone with us he was like you can't be oh so one of the cities that was that was kind of
okay to stay in um some guy pulls up in a bike we're like all right the hostel's like like a mile
so it's kind of it's hot and we have all our like all our stuff with us yeah some guy pulls up on a bike
He was like, what are you guys doing?
And our, you know, our tensions up.
Like, you're not going to scam us.
He's just like a civilian or?
Yeah, on a motorcycle.
And he goes, I can drive you to the thing.
It's far.
I can drive you, come back.
And we're like, all right, what's the, this is obviously like, what are you trying
to get off us?
Yeah.
And he goes, all right, you got me.
And we're like, what is it?
He goes, I was trying to work on my English.
Oh, that's precious.
Oh, yeah.
I was like, all right.
That's precious.
I guess I did have ulterior motives
Oh my God
Wow
Yeah they were all that
That's the worst scam you'll get in Myanmar
Wow
Wow
That's amazing man
So friendly taking into your home
Like let me show you
We do our tea
So people will let you into their homes
Yeah once I remember now
I'm having these memories
As I'm talking to you
That's amazing
Yeah
That's the beauty of travel podcast
And you like reel up old memories
Like I didn't remember the fucking gunshots
in the white sandy beach on the whatever that river is yeah just now but
heroin yeah fucking legendary place man me and marr hopefully they get their shit together man
because there's so much potential to be had and I know like tourism is like it's like a tricky
situation with doing it the right way and not fucking your entire like culture i.e. Thailand
Bali but they definitely have something special going on like I feel like more people should see
it for sure yeah so I started this like four month backpacking trip in in Myanmar to the
It just started in Myanmar.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, which I'm like so thankful because it was like, you're in.
You're going.
Right, just diving in.
No Thailand, no like massages, just fucking.
Yeah.
Just because I was like, I'm going.
I got all my visas I need to ahead of time.
That's smart.
That takes a, yeah.
I was like, I'm going to, that's the region.
I was like, let me get, I needed Vietnam ahead of time.
I needed Myanmar ahead of time.
I forget what else.
Maybe Lao.
Yeah, maybe.
I never ended up making it there, but I had for wherever I might go.
Okay.
And then the Thailand's on arrival.
Some of them are on arrival.
Yeah, yeah.
But, and then I just looked at the weather.
Weather was best in Myanmar.
So I was like, I'm going there.
I got it like a day before.
It's like no rain for two weeks.
So you didn't have like an entry thing with your visa, like certain number of days.
Yeah, it's 30 days starting any time in the next six months.
Oh, so you had six months to decide.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But so started there, went, did almost a month and then went to Chiang Mai.
We did a month in Myanmar?
Holy fuck, dude.
Maybe 27, 28 days.
Jesus Christ.
Well, I guess it was.
safer then so it was safer i was so like wow made a couple groups you know yeah meet other travelers
you keep seeing them what kind of people did you meet were they like young like german boys or
there was a couple northern one northern uh england guy big newcastle black fan okay uh that i just ran into
again in vancouver meet some legends out there in those hostels bro fucking legends yeah
they don't give a fuck dude so the first night at the first hostel i was just me and this other
chick this German chick and and it was like she was like oh yeah I took the land border from
Thailand and I was like what that's badass yeah and she goes so here you can stay in the beach
up to two days for free and they won't like movies so I slept on the beach and I was like
she probably stunk to high heaven bro I mean I came from hotel life and meeting this lady who
was such an adventurer I'm like what do you mean by yourself are you crazy yeah won't you get
taken yeah and she was just like no care in the world and I was like oh my I got to be more free
I think something with women
They're either really protective and guarded on the road
Or they just don't give a fuck dude
I met a French girl
This is a long story
But like she was hitchhiking with us through Kyrgyzstan
And she was going to hitchhike
To and through Pakistan and India alone
And I was like
Listen
Like take my advice
Please don't do this
Like I was trying to be her voice of reason
But she's like I do not care
I go to Pakistan like blah blah blah
I don't know if I need visa
I don't care and I'm like
You're going to get fuck
Like 100%
sure.
Be better off of a ditty's house.
Yeah,
honestly.
Wow.
What happened?
You ever see her again?
No, we just parted away.
We got into China together.
And yeah, we took like a military or like government bus through Xinjiang and she like was
cheap and tried to take like the tourist bus and then got held up.
And yeah, that's the last we saw over.
Do you have a line of like, of like, okay, I want to go the cheap route or the real route versus like,
actually it's going to cost me two days if let's say spend four extra dollars and take a flight?
Yeah.
Yeah, because I mean, time is money, right?
And I feel like, I don't know.
Like burnout is real on the road.
I'm sure you felt it in like Southeast Asia.
Like, I don't know.
Because I mean, money at that point, everything's so cheap.
It's just like bargaining tokens.
It doesn't really fucking matter.
So you're just like, all right, I'll save a couple.
Or sometimes I'll like splurge on a nice hotel.
Like me and my buddy Tommy sabbatical, we made this series on YouTube where we went from
Kyrgyz time all the way.
He's supposed to come on this.
Is he?
I think so.
He's going to be a great guest, man.
He's got some stories.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
He got detained in Russia.
He was in prison?
That's what people are saying.
It's so funny.
I got all these, like, suggestions from people.
And this whole world of, like, you guys that, like, I wasn't really familiar with.
Uh-huh.
That are, like, not just like, hi, we're here in front of this, but, like, actually fun, cool, interesting people.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Making cool videos with some style and, like, some panache.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah.
People like, get him about Russia.
Yeah.
Sabatical is a fucking legend.
He's got a story.
He lives in Bischak.
So you'd be easy to get him.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Maybe I shouldn't just have that.
How do you, uh, do you, sorry, edit out.
Yeah.
You lay in some really far off place over that.
Yeah, lay in Bishkek, Bishkek Kazakhstan.
That's right.
Osh, Kyrgyzstan.
I feel like you asked me something.
Yeah.
I feel like it too.
Hold on.
Oh, like saving money.
Yes.
So we went from Kyrgyzstan.
I actually started in Uzbekistan, did land borders all the way through Xinjiang.
And long story short, we like ended up at this border.
All land borders, yeah.
Why?
It's more fun.
It's better.
Landowners are so cool.
Way better.
Yeah, you can really understand a place.
You can see like, okay, the culture here is like getting intermingled with the culture here
and then you go across and like horribly racist to these people.
And like you just never know.
It's always different, you know.
There's something also like when you take a flight or like an overnight flight and you just
wake up or another place.
It's like a transport.
You don't see the change.
It's like cheating.
It's cheating.
You don't see the border areas that have both cultures.
Yeah.
It's too easy.
It's too easy.
And airplanes, airports are just like, it's like a fucking mall.
It's like, oh, yeah, I've been to Dubai.
It's like, you were in a mall, dude.
Airports are the same everywhere.
Yeah.
To a degree.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, we did the land border and then we just ended up at like a trucker.
Dude, it wasn't meant for tourists.
It was like, it was just like a transport border between the two countries,
Kyrgyzstan and China.
And it was closed that day, the Chinese border.
So we just had to sleep in like a shipping container.
Me and the French girl and Tommy sabbatical.
And it was hell, bro.
Like, I mean, they gave us like a little stuff.
dove to like help us stay warm so that was great we didn't die in the desert overnight but
the next day i was like fuck a dude we're standing at the ritz like fuck this i'll i'll pay for it
like yeah we cannot be doing this the whole trip like there is also you understand the social
like benefits of a hostel for sure yeah i mean i grew up doing hostels i i would still do it to
like gather intel if i needed to you get great intel huh great intel yeah i mean stuff is not
in any lonely planet or anything we're like no not hiking me anymore was like
Just some Israeli tricks.
Like, we just came from this.
It's really cool.
Yeah.
It's just not set up for tourism enough that anyone would know.
Yeah.
My buddy Timmy Carter also has a YouTube channel.
He told me, like, before he films, like, in the ghettos or in the slums or anything,
he'll stay in a hostel just to, like, rough it and just to be a little more, like,
have a little more edge about him type thing.
Because when you're in the hotel, it's just like, oh, I'm going to eat my bacon
and extra breakfast and I'm comfortable.
But in the hostel, it's like, you're in the shit, you know what I mean?
It incentivizes you, like, get out.
Yeah, get the fuck out.
This is pretty hot and gross here.
Yeah.
You should just get out to the streets and do stuff.
Yeah, exactly.
But I would do like, when I was there,
I was like, if I'm somewhere for one night,
I'm like, I'm getting a shower.
I'm getting a hotel.
Yeah, one night.
You're not going to.
I'm not going to meet anybody.
You're only going to learn about something fun happening
and then have to leave the next day.
Yeah.
They're going to like, oh, we're going to like an overnight rave.
And you're like, fuck, I have a flight at 6 a.m.
You know?
Yeah, it was like the river border.
Oh, what the is that?
Between Vietnam.
And then you have, like, de-board.
They stamp your thing.
See, that's cool, man.
That's a story.
That's not just taking a fucking flight.
Yeah.
You know.
But then I was going to go from there to, I think, to Indonesia, whatever, but it was like,
I'm just getting a nice hotel.
Yeah.
And by nice, I mean, like, fine.
Yeah.
But like a powerful shower when you're like, need one.
You're like, oh.
A shower really, it'll set you right, man.
It'll wash away all the sins.
Yeah.
Especially some places, like, if I'm really rough in it, the only question I'll ask at the hotel.
Because, you know, in a lot of places, it's like the only fucking hotel.
Like in Kirkistan, it was just like a fucking box.
Yeah.
With a hole underground of shit in.
But I will ask, like, is there hot water?
Like, that's the one question I ask.
Ahead of time.
Yeah.
Because, like...
You'll get the answer to no a lot?
Some places in Colombia, like, kind of in the more remote areas in, I don't know.
I can't even remember Mexico, maybe.
Just kind of like shithole countries, you know?
They don't have, like, the best plumbing.
You ever do the buckets?
Oh, dude, fuck the buckets.
I think that was in the Philippines.
And you feel like an animal, dude.
You feel like a fucking cow.
just like all right
I get washed the shit off my asshole
like just get all the nasty bits
yeah
and they're like see soap up with no one
and they're like all right
yeah and you're like is it did I get it
I don't know like
you find like soap behind you
you're like damn it right yeah
and it's so cold everyone's like
oh yeah exactly you like get wet
one time and then like suds everything up
and then fucking you start sweating
while you're shutting up
yeah because there's no because it's like
oh yeah it's so hot it's 98
with 100% humidity
Yeah, yeah
And then like
Right
I mean some countries
It is refreshing
I was in Columbia
I was in some random guy's house
And he just had like
Kind of like a hose spicket
Like elevated
And that was like actually refreshing
Because we were kind of in the jungle
Like near the Venice
We went on board
It was hot as fuck
So
Yeah, cold shower will do fine that
It was nice, yeah
But if you're in like the Balkans or something
You don't want to
Yeah
That's when you get like
Whatever and die
Hypothermia yeah
And there's no hospitals
do you ever worry about that on the road
like you'll ever be on like a remote hike or
in Myanmar I'm sure
oh I have a story about that remind me in a second
but like there's no medical care
like if the worst thing happens
you're fucked bro
like I was in that
that beach town inouye song
and I checked into my hostel
it was like 10 in the morning maybe 1030
and the guy checking me in was like
hey you want something to drink you want a water coffee
and I was like oh how about a beer
and then we just start crushing beers
and then it comes up he's the town doctor
bro we're getting hammered
Before noon.
You incapacitated your help.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I was like, you are the doctor in town.
And he's like, yeah, hell yeah.
I do reception here and I'm the doctor.
I'm like, there's no way you're a good doctor.
I think you're the doctor because you're the one guy with band-aids.
I found, what I found was, so I had to take, there was some shot I had to take for Asian malaria or something.
It could have been rabies, but I had to take three of them.
And I got two here in America.
From Malaysia, you said?
For Southeast Asia.
Okay, okay.
And I got two here.
It was like two weeks apart kind of shots.
Okay.
And so then I was like, hey, I'm actually not going to be here for the third one.
And my travel doctor was like, oh, we'll find you a, or whatever.
Maybe one month apart.
I forget.
We'll find you one in Myanmar.
We can find a clinic wherever.
And so I was like, to find me one in Yangon, I was like, actually my plan has changed.
And they found me one.
My drug here that cost $400 was like $50 there.
And I was like, no, no, it can't be the right one.
He goes, yeah, I'm looking at it.
Did you see the medical?
It's like, this is it.
Yeah.
dude and so it was like I mean sand floor and shit but like yeah yeah that's the thing with
healthcare it's it's a little it can be a little dicey but I do think in the US we have like
highly inflated prices for sure like I mean I had food poisoning in the Philippines and uh I was like
I went to the ER because it was like it wasn't terrible but I just didn't have time to like
figure it out the next day and it was like late at night and anyways I was in the ER and it was like an
indoor outdoor ER there was like flies I could like hear the traffic and I'm like this isn't the most
sanitary place to be getting shot and they're like they're like we really want to do blood work and
I was like absolutely fucking not like I'll shit in a pan and you can examine my stool but I will
go through that you're not penetrating me yeah with like where'd you get that needle let me see you
unwrap it yeah yeah it's like a tie battle I'm like don't turn around don't turn around let me see
you open it run a lighter over it um wait what story did you want to get back to oh no that was that was
the doctor yeah wait I want to ask you about food but I got a pissed okay sure okay I could
probably rip a piss, too.
All right, what was the food like in Myanmar?
I wasn't a fan.
Any meat was, like, very gristly.
You know, like, you're chewing it, and it's like,
ugh, like, this cow didn't live a good life, you know what I mean?
Uh-huh.
Like, this is from the fields where they're, like,
shooting their own people.
Like, they probably don't take care of their animals, you know?
It's not flavorful.
It just doesn't feel like they really care that much.
I don't know.
Maybe my palate isn't, like, attuned to it.
Yeah.
But it was fine.
It was okay.
like beef noodles a lot it was okay you know they had the ones i remember was mohinga was like a breakfast
soup oh yeah i think i and then like the only thing that was good they had all these fields of peppers
but they didn't use them ever right so on that hike i was like can't take somebody they're like
yeah there's 50 000 peppers take four right they're just growing wild they don't know what to do
with them well i think they're doing but exporting them or something uh and so they're like
they're just not putting in their food interesting and so tea leaf salad is pretty good i didn't have that
okay and then the mohinga was okay
but yeah yeah nothing really
nothing spicy I remember one time I like spent a little more
yeah in Myanmar it was like three dollars but I got like a whole
platter of like kind of top of style like a little bit of beef
a little bit of mystery meat a little bit of whatever the fuck and like
it was almost all inedible to me like I don't know maybe
because to be fair I had like a stomach bug like a really bad parasite from
Pakistan that like I didn't know what it was at the time but I was
just shitting like liquid like all day every day like anytime I had to shit it was going to
be liquid type thing so I was like I'm more hesitant when I was in Myanmar I was like ah what the
fuck is this yeah and I don't know about you but like I think I'm more skeptical of like fresh food
now like lettuce I'm terrified to eat lettuce that's what I tell you yeah it's not the it's not
the meat it's anything uncooked yeah the water the rinse you're like oh lettuce this is fine
a piece of broccoli that's cool raw and you're like raw is that death absolutely
Absolutely, and I'll give me a canned fucking bean, the thing of canned beans, and I'll be happy.
It's a cook off.
My buddy got it in Ecuador, came to visit me, and I was like, hey, you've got to boil the water.
You have to boil the water.
He's bottled water.
And he, like, made tea, but warmed it up.
Didn't like, he was like, ah, it's hot enough.
And then he's like, oh, actually, I didn't boil it technically, but that sip was enough.
Shitting, like, 20 times a day.
Yeah, like, probably needed to go to the hospital, honestly.
He did go to the hospital.
Yeah.
Wait, um, wait, what was I just going to say?
Food?
Oh, what did you take for food poisoning?
Dude, I would literally just pregame my days with a modium.
Like, I probably did, like, irreversible damage to my, like, intestines.
I would just take it every day.
I would just take it, especially for, like, a long train ride in India, for example.
Like, there's a lot, you know, it's a big country.
There's a lot of trains.
So I would just take it.
What's the modium do?
Stop you up?
Yeah, you just can't shit.
So I would have, like, one shit every, like, five days.
When you, like, hey, I can't be shitting a lot here?
Or at all.
Like, if there's a squat toilet on a mowel.
moving indian train i'm like i absolutely
shitting is not an option here what's your technique for squats
um when did you first come across them did they anyway tell you about them
how to deal with it and or did they just throw you to the wolves and how do you do it
there's not a fucking even a diagram yeah there's a diagram on how to push the thing for the
hand dryer yeah yeah no especially uh for women i don't know how women like if you're
wearing a dress you just get fully naked like how are you supposed to yeah take off everything
no dress is easy you pillow it up oh that's true dress is the easiest that's true
But what do you do with the panties?
Just push them to the side and like...
Well, what do we do with our panties?
Well, I just...
Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Underwear is the same for men and women.
Yeah, but we had a little dick flap.
We have a dick flap.
We do have a thing we could pull all the dick through.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But no, dude, honestly, the first squat toilet, you'd never believe it, but I was in Italy.
I was in, like, a nice restaurant.
It was a fucking squatter, bro, like a marble, like beautifully polished squatter.
Like a beautiful, like, ooh, Roman influence.
Yeah, I was like, oh.
I don't feel like a piece of trash.
Whereas like in Cambodia or Myanmar, it's like, oh, no, you're like a dog here.
Like, you know.
But yeah, the toilets, is that what you asked me about?
Yeah.
And like, what's your technique?
Oh, yeah, just take down the pants to the knees.
So it's just like as high as they'll go, like when you're in the squat position.
And then just kind of push your dick down.
Hold on.
Okay, go here.
All right.
It'll get you.
If you go for it up back, there you go.
Yeah, just do that.
Okay.
And then just kind of like pop your dick down.
Take your pants.
I'm not going to do anything, but take your pants to a degree.
Let me see.
Let me just see.
You can leave your underwear on.
Let's assume your underwear is in your pants now, but let's see how you would do it.
Yeah, it's like that.
Okay, and then you push your dick down.
Yeah.
But now, let me see.
Your butt's here.
Your shoe's here.
It's so close.
Oh, there's going to be some backslash.
There will be some backslash.
Because the poop is a problem too.
Yeah, especially if you're like, uh,
Especially if you're spray shitting.
Like if it's got a little, like, radius to it.
Like, it's not just a straight, like, plop.
It's like, it's like a shotgun.
Yeah.
That'll get you some trouble.
Yeah, like when you shit, you see on a regular toy, you see the sides of the dots.
Like, imagine that and a squatter.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
No, I've had a few experiences with the squatter where I would shit and then, like, flush it.
but the flusher, like, pointed out, like, at me.
So I just got sprayed with all my shit water.
You don't know.
You're like, ah, what?
You're like, oh, the worst water.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I actually, I was in China and that happened.
I was wearing my slide, so I got on my bare feet.
And then I had to, like, go to the sink and, like, I had to get a bar of soap for my buddy Tommy and, like, fuck it.
And cut your foot off with it.
Exactly, yeah.
Shave it down into a shank and just cut your foot up.
Okay.
Yeah, so.
I had food poisoning in me.
I'm like, do you, do you have abide by this theory that once you get food poisoning,
you're good for a while?
No, absolutely not.
I think it's like breaking the seal.
I think once you get it, you get it way easier.
Interesting.
You have the other, the opposite theory?
The vibe I got from Southeast Asia was like, it's going to come.
Once it does, you're good.
So you're going to be in fear of it until you get it.
Oh, it's like you're immune to it.
Like you build up.
You already did it.
Like whatever the locals have in their gut I have now.
Yeah.
Did that pan out?
I only got it once.
I took a Z-pack afterwards, a Zithromycin.
I might be remembering this wrong.
Okay.
Because I gave my Z-Pak to my friend who drank the tea in Ecuador.
And his doctor was like, don't ever listen to Ari.
That's not what you should take at all.
And I'm like, oh, what?
Here's some Iverbectin.
I heard it works wonders.
It does, but then they spam call you for five years.
Yeah, but I was a shit squatter in some hotel.
We're saying two to a room, that little trek.
And I remember like, okay, I pissing and shitting and barfing.
But then you piss, so you stand up and piss with this little footrests.
And that's when you got to put your knees when you're barfing.
So you're like, you go to squat, shit, barf, and you're like, and they're like, oh, no, also this.
You got to immediately squat onto it.
Oh, that's a nightmare situation, my friend.
It was really bad.
So you're like face to face with the shit.
Like, because in like a regular toilet, you can, there's some level of.
Yeah, this wasn't the flush.
It was like, take a bucket and pour water down to clear it.
See, that is like a personal nightmare of mine for that to happen.
It wasn't ideal.
Yeah.
I was staying, that place I was talking about the shipping containers at the Kyrgyzstan, China border.
I hope I'm not like meandering too much.
No, that's all right.
But I saw the toilet and it was like carnage, bro.
It was like the death camps dog.
Like I went in there and like I couldn't even stay there.
It was like, I was gagging.
Like I opened the door and I just gagged and I was like, this can't.
So I didn't eat.
Like I had like little bites of dumplings here and there, but I was like, I cannot get food poisoning here.
Like, if I do, it'll be, like, terrible.
Like, what you said, that's literally my nightmare.
I love when you got any traveler who's like, oh, I'm not good at this.
I don't want to do this.
I'm not looking to like, oh, sure, do whatever.
It's like, no, it's horrible.
I'm an American.
Yeah.
I don't want to.
I want a regular toilet.
We are pampered pussies at the end of the day.
That thing I was just remember when I came back from four months backpacking and, like, really
slumming it or whatever, like, I've never done before.
And then coming back to my parents' house, like, surprising them.
And then taking a shit.
and then just noticing like this toilet paper is heavenly it's like a cloud so were you in places
where you had to bring your own toilet paper then China that's what when I landed in China they
don't tell you yeah and then this club owner this comedy club owner was like gave me a little pack
of like a travel pack of tissue paper and he goes oh you just got here he goes you'll need this
he goes hold on hold on he got it and I'm like what what why he goes you'll know but he goes don't
ever leave the hotel without that right right when I did I did that that that's that
Man saved you, bro.
Have you ever been in a squat toilet and not had toilet paper?
Yeah.
Where you're just like walking around with just shit, just smearing between your cheeks all day.
Yeah, you're just like, I'm going to go.
If they have a bucket, we could hand it.
Oh, no, you handed it?
Dude, I've done that in America.
Me and O'Neill were hiking in Runyon Canyon.
And I was like, I got to take it dump, bro.
He goes, let's leave my.
I know when I'm not going to make it back to the car.
I'm not going to make it.
And it was a Pepsi Zero.
No.
That's all the water we had
It was a Pepsi Zero can
At least I didn't have like
Like real sugar to where it gets sticky
Yeah, you know, at least
Way to look at the bright side
Yeah, fucking hell man
Yeah, that's the stuff you don't see
On the influencer TikToks is fucking
Do you really, they don't show you everything
Using the cardboard of the toilet paper
To wipe your ass
Yeah
One time I was in China and I think I used
I didn't have toilet paper
And I think I used just like some travel
Old travel visa or some like random piece of paper
In my backpack to wipe my ass
You really become like the Indians where you're like every part of the buffalo, you know?
Exactly.
If like I don't have any like skins, I'm like, oh, back of a Bible.
Very thin paper.
We can roll this up.
Like you're just like, what can we use?
Hey, don't throw that newspaper out.
Right.
I need that for my ass.
Yeah.
It's like you're in prison, like using like creative things to make shanks and wine.
Toothbrush does many things.
Yeah, dude.
Was there anywhere in Myanmar that you did not?
My and mom.
That's what the Brits call it.
They did not go that you wanted to?
I wanted to do that hiked, but honestly, I was there kind of on like a content mission, so I didn't like, I don't know, hiking doesn't make for the best videos.
Like you want like some story to unfold.
You want some struggle.
You want some, but honestly, based on your stories, it sounded like it would be interesting as fuck, like meeting those characters and like, you know, the military checkpoints.
Did you, well, that was after the hike, then we went, but I met those people, you know?
When you do stuff, are you like making content as you go or like researching first and talking about it afterwards?
I think the best videos, I don't research at all and I show up and I ask around.
On camera?
No, no, no, I'll just ask the hostel or ask the concierge.
What's cool?
Go around and yeah, go to a bar.
Just, yeah, ask what's around.
But honestly, like, I'm trying to be a little more strategic these days.
So I will do a little bit of research and I'll go into a place with like a concept and then I'll meander around.
Like those Myanmar videos, I was like, oh, I want to go to the beach and it's going to be a beach.
beach video. And then I'm at this alcohol and we're drunk driving and crashing. It's like,
this is fucking perfect. It just kind of finds you in Myanmar, you know, like you don't even
have to really try. You ever hear about, was it finding Silverman? No. They were doing a
documentary in this like circus family. And then in the middle of the, as they're making this
documentary, they're like, oh, this guy's. Kids. And then it was like, we've already been rolling
for like two weeks. And then it's like, that's the dream when you're making a documentary.
Yeah. Yeah. Can you read?
Get on camera.
Petto!
We got a peto!
Jackpot.
Yeah.
Yeah, if you're making a beach video and you come across a drunk taxi driver,
and you're like, oh, hell yes.
I was already rolling.
Yeah, this fell into my lap.
This is perfect.
Yeah, I mean, as far as places I'd go in Myanmar,
to be fair with you, man, I don't think I'll ever be able to go back
because I did a video on that bus during the military curfew.
Is it up?
Yeah, yeah, it's on YouTube.
I think that's probably the reason I can never go back because I talked about and then they
might clock you yeah I think they'd have I mean the videos went viral as fuck dude like the guy
the drunk driver he was kind of like a local celebrity for a bit like he was on the news and stuff
this one it's that guy there that's him no no down one oh wait that's the first guy that like
maybe scan this guy was yeah yeah dog yeah dog fucking legend yes sir wow he's I mean already
fucking rules.
You got a Bucky's shirt?
Yes, sir.
Where are you from?
Atlanta.
Okay.
Yes, sir.
I mean, this guy's already gone.
Well, this is, I just cutting, okay, this is where the video actually starts, but yeah.
Dude, to bike on these things, is this, this is the beach, okay, come back to go.
I was like, where are we going?
He goes, the next place.
So, yeah, the goal was to go to Snake Island.
I was like, all right, let's fucking do it.
And I'm trying to do the intro, like, what's going on?
Where are we going?
And he, like, can't speak.
he's already so drunk like it wait snake island's in Myanmar yeah yeah it's like
infested with these like venomous snakes yeah yeah but I didn't realize it was
Myanmar it was a little underrated honestly the journey was what made this video so
special that's the fun thing too is like that's what I mean but like take a flight it's like it'll
save you time but like time from what like yeah you want to be on a bunch from traveling for
six hours with talking to people looking at them and you meet locals you're not going to meet
like you know German kid on a trust fund you're going to meet like local guys like
moving a chicken from town to town.
You know what I mean?
Buddy, this is,
just seeing this footage is taking me back.
It's like, I can smell it.
Yeah, right?
A little sour and like a little jungly.
Yeah.
This is me trying to be like, where are we going?
And he can't even tell me where we're going, bro.
He's hammered already.
We're going there.
I mean, he's in flip-flops and just slides.
And there was no foot pegs for me on the bike.
I'm like six foot two and my legs are just dangling on.
I'm like using all my core strength to like not fall off, dude.
Trying not take it the burn.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
And then later in the video, it's me, him, and then his friend.
It's three of us on the bike.
No foot pegs.
Just like.
Oh, do they have those billions place that was outside?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
Pool tables outside.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow, that's right.
They love it.
Yeah.
And they're already hammered.
And that's a nice table.
It's okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just incoherent English.
They're all hammered already.
Fucked up, dude.
Yeah.
he was trying to say
my name is Angolilian
but it's kind of like
my name is Angolili
Oh that's the beer
Myanmar beer
But you know what
That funds the junta
That funds the
What does?
The beer
Like it's the government's beer
The Myanmar beer
So all people are in my comments
Like hey you know
Don't drink the beer
Because you're
Well what am I gonna get a bud light
Fuck off
Alright shut up
Dude I was somewhere
And they were like
I think maybe South America
Somewhere
But they were like
Ecuador Columbia
and they were like, hey, all these guys are growing weed now
for the cartels
and it's fucking bullshit, you shouldn't do that.
And then the farmer's like, okay, well,
they said you can make 10 times the money
growing weed instead of tomatoes.
And also, if you don't grow the weed,
we're going to kill your daughter.
So why don't you guys fucking mind your own business
with the critique?
That's true.
Let us do our thing.
I have a drinking problem.
I'm drinking this beer.
Do you get drunk in these places a lot?
Do you try to like?
Yeah, yeah, no.
Honestly, the best times I've ever had traveling is just drinking.
This is his homemade beetle nut.
He gave me like a moldy beetle nut that he made like himself
And I was fucked on this one.
I was fucked on that one buddy gets you so I was fucked bro
It was better than coke I think because you're like you're not like intoxicated intoxicated
Just like happy you know oh right
You just feel good it makes you like feel like happy not just buzz
Well it's like a physical it's like it's like a really strong it's like you're already going
Your teeth already turning red yeah it's fucked yeah my girlfriend was like
Please stop, like you're ruining your teeth.
You ever smoke those beatties there?
Those little cigars cigarettes.
Yeah, I think I did that in this video too, actually.
I tried to get one to smoke on that hike.
I'm like, I'll buy one or two.
And they're like, no, it's a pack of 200.
Right.
It's a kilogram.
And I'm like, no, I don't want that.
I'm like, it's a dollar for 200.
I'm like, oh, okay.
Yeah.
And then I smoked way too many.
And that's where I think led to my sickness.
That, some food, whatever's all together.
It was like, I'm fucked.
What, you got like the flu or something, like a respiratory?
No, it was the barfing and shitting and...
Why would that make you barf, though?
I don't know.
It was just a bunch of things.
It was like 12 quail eggs, too many of those beady cigars.
Oh, God.
What are those cigars called?
I don't know, but they taste terrible.
Yeah, but you see everybody smoking them.
Yeah.
I stick to the beetle on that, though.
I stick to the beat on that.
Honestly, it's so nice.
I think if there was like a Zen version of it over here, it would take off.
Dangerous!
Ah!
And he's like, no problem, no problem.
Give you room.
He's like, turn.
turning around on the bike, like, no problem, no problem.
That's like the bus is supposed to see by.
How are you holding camera?
Oh, yeah, I have like, yeah, I know, I don't know.
Just not holding on.
Yeah.
And it's crowded at 10 a.m. already.
Dude, I'm telling you, like, there's boozers in Myanmar.
Look at those slides.
Everyone's wearing the dress.
Yeah, they have the little seats, those plastic fucking children's chairs.
Yeah, yeah.
That's how you know.
It's a good spot.
Bro, this is taking me back.
That's the bucket with the,
Hulk juice in it it's bad uh it's hard to see but yeah he's got a bucket he's just
fucking so you want one or two i'm like one he fucking pulls it out that it's like glowing
dude yeah what is that you just go for you're like all right fuck it dude yeah i'm like
i'm probably never coming back to me or might as well try this shit yeah oh chang import um they
i feel like it's one of those things like if it's habitual if you do this every day for
fucking years you're fucked but like yeah do it for two days it's fine
Also, this dude told me he had 20 of these a day.
He's like, I have 20 drinks a day.
So I'm like, oh, what's two going to hurt?
Like, fuck it, you know?
Yeah.
There's Myanmar beer and Mandalay beer, right?
Yeah, I don't know.
I just had the Myanmar beer.
The little, it's like the old school, like, 70s pop top.
Like, it's not like a crack.
You don't crack it like a Coca-Cola.
You're like, pull it off.
Yeah.
Oh, it's so satisfying because it like, it like snaps.
Yeah.
It's like there's like this, like, I have all these, like, essays in my head that I'm never going to write.
Uh-huh.
But one of them is like compare all the shit.
beer across the globe.
Okay, that's fun.
And so there's usually a contest
like this in Ecuador is either Pilsner
or Klub, and you're either a Pilsner guy or a
Oh, the Klub, they have that in Columbia, dude.
Okay.
It's terrible. It tastes like, remember Bud Light
platinum? Like the sweet
Bud Light with like extra alcohol in it?
Yeah. That's what it tastes like.
Platim.
Yeah, but they all have their shit beers.
There's usually one to two of them.
People have their favorites, but it's like, this is the shit beer
of the country.
Yeah.
Honestly, though, I feel like a logger's a logger.
or a pilsner or a pilsner it's fine it's all fine yeah but it's it's i mean it's bud light
it's acceptable yeah it's like totally fine or a high life and it's like their version of that
yeah it's yeah i mean you don't want craft beer no what would be in my craft beer even
and no one's drinking it look at that guy he ate his own mouth yeah dude everybody this is where
i'm asking him like oh his job's electronic yeah i was like uh do these guys have jobs are you
are you going to work today it was like 10 30 in the morning and he's like oh yeah you know
he works in electronics he does this this that and the other and i was like are you going to
drive there and he's like maybe they'll drive there i'm not sure but the meanwhile the parking lot's
full of fucking motorbikes and we're all getting hammered look at the table they have nice phones
that's the cigarette that's it yeah that's it yes that's it i mean one is good two is a prop yeah the coconut
filter yeah oh i got to get one of those again it hurt my lungs man yeah the coconut filter is just
like it's like a crutch for a joint it's not stop
right right right it's just so you can hold it right it's like it's healthy yeah we
were getting fucked up dude oh this is i think he told me to chew this like lime leaf
yeah and then drink the drink the pineapple hulk juice it was actually why would that cut it no i think
it's just like a treat it was really oh that's the pop top you see behind you that's the kind of
pull pull top yeah yeah or it's like uh it's on the sign yeah i think they did like there
yep that's exactly right they were doing some kind of giveaway where you can see at the bottom
at the top and like drink five get one free or something yeah not that they need any more incentive
to drink like they're all fucking boozers dude i really want to go back but i think you could go you could
yeah you'd be fine you'd be fine what advice would you give somebody who's going now like i'm going
what do i need what do i not need um yeah just pack light because you're gonna be on the move a lot
i'd say you're gonna be on the move a lot yeah yeah because i mean it's like there's not that many
places to see honestly and you kind of just want to hit it and quit it with me and more like
I wouldn't stay it's crazy you did a month man I wouldn't want to stay like longer than I
two weeks was too much for me I was alive it was the most free I've ever felt really I just started
a long-term travel gotten like all my shit here in order and like and like taken off all my friends
I don't know what do your friends say about like from back home or from like norm core shit
yeah I think like as I continue to travel I kind of lose touch for a lot of people because they
don't really understand but the people you do grow towards are like fucking homies you
I mean, like Tommy sabbatical, sleeping with him in a fucking Kyrgyzstan shipping container in the desert.
Like, that's your fucking your comrades.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So, yeah, it's hard to relay the messages, but they appreciate that I'm like doing what I want.
So, you know.
You hear, they're like, what are you doing?
Your career's going well.
What are you doing?
Yeah.
But I'm like, I've tied up on my loose ins for a while.
I can take a little break.
Yeah.
But anyway, going there and just feeling like, I didn't understand until I got back.
Zero responsibility.
Nothing.
especially solo travel do you have no one to answer to no and i was like what do i want to do
stay here an extra day or like actually my feeling i'm going to leave yeah i don't know if you get this
but also i'm in a hostile i'm not gonna money gets makes people weird yeah and i have more than
a hosteler i don't have a ton but i have more than a fucking so i'm faking it yeah yeah but i'm just
going to defer to the poorest guy you know if he's like hey what's a one dollar cover i'm like i know
right let's not do this right right why do you do that i don't want to make anybody feel weird okay
i don't want to change the vibe yeah yeah but why the poorest guy why not like the
i'll go like one up from the poorest it's like you get the second second worst bottle of wine right
right right right like you don't want to be the guy that keeps you from going to the club yeah but i'm
like i'm not going to push anybody out of their comfort zone yeah but maybe one guy you come up to
here everyone else we can go down to there right they're pretty much on the same level mostly right
Well, if you're staying in a hostel, you're not, like, bawling by any means.
Right.
I mean, like, yeah.
So some people, like, $1.5 is fine.
Other people like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
And you're like, I mean, all this people leave a hostel, but like, this one's a dollar a night cheaper.
And you're like, dude, we had a good crew.
It's going to take you four hours to get there.
Like, is your time worth, you know, 25 cents an hour?
Yeah.
But if I'm somewhere for like 10 days and I meet somebody, I'm like, hey, man, listen.
Like, I was in Guatemala with this Australian guy where we went to these like hot springs.
And there was an upscale hot spring for an extra quarter or dollar or something like that.
I was like,
buddy, I'm only here,
I get you're on a budget,
I'm only here for 10 days.
I will pay for both of us
for the upscale hotsmiths
because I don't want to not do it.
I don't even know this,
but I'm fucking bawling out of control.
I can afford the 25 cents.
I mean,
that's what it is.
It's like,
I'm not crushing it,
but I have a dollar rich.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
exactly.
That's the thing is like,
I don't mind splurging
when it's necessary
and it'll make the experience
like better,
but I do want to interact
with the local culture
or the local customs.
The only time I don't want to spend more
is when I'm getting scammed.
Like, I will fight tooth and nail.
If I think a taxi driver is scamming me out of any amount of money, I will fight with him.
I will stand there and fight with him on the corner for however long it takes.
Agreed.
I just don't like dishonesty.
It feels bullshit.
Yeah.
It's a waste of money and it's dishonest as fuck.
Like, you shouldn't be rewarded for, and a lot of people were like, oh, well, you know, like,
he doesn't make much.
And I'm like, dude, he's lying to me right now.
Like, if he had just told me the honest price, I would have done the honest price.
Yeah.
This thing is working with Live Nation, where it's like, just tell me a worse deal and I'll
take your worst deal.
Don't tell me this deal
and then just not pay me a bunch
or like do surcharges on the customers
for 40%.
Yeah, dude.
But look,
you're where nobody is here.
Yeah, it's amazing.
I mean, Myanmar is a,
yeah, it's a fucking beautiful place, man.
Even in, I didn't film anything there
because it was a bit touristy,
but there's, maybe you went there.
It's like these huge golden
Buddhist stupas.
The golden temple.
It's like 200 feet high.
What's a stupa?
It's like what was in
but like golden.
maybe there's some other like significance i'm missing um within buddhism but
yeah it was fucking uh this thing gorgeous man absolutely gorgeous yeah yeah that's the one yeah
and it like you could see it kind of all over yeah yeah yeah and like they have tour guides there
and they it's kind of just like pay as you go like pay whatever you want yeah and like if he
charges me more like if you gave me like a good service yeah i'll like pay you the extra and not
I feel like I'm going to escape.
But if you just take me somewhere, if you quote me at price A in the taxi, taxi drivers are the
worst.
They're so fucking scummy.
Or they can be.
If you quote me at like $5 and we get there and you say 10, like, I'm going to argue with
you.
Just say 10 to begin with.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
I'm in the same way.
I feel like you're getting over on me.
I don't want to be a cunt.
Yeah.
I don't want you making a bitch out of me.
Also, you're like ruining, I mean, I don't want to get all fucking meta, but like, that's
what ruined Bali and that's what ruined Mexico City and that's what's literally ruining Thailand is
Hey boss, hey boss, hey boss, taxi.
Hey boss.
They think that you're just a wallet
And that's why India is so fucked
It's like it's just an incentive structure
They see a white guy and they're like money
And so they get scanned left and right
And they just know it's a hustle
You know what I mean?
It's my friend Rolf
He wrote that book, souvenir
In The Bagabony
Yeah, legend, right?
Yeah, I read his books for sure
Yeah
You'll see it in hustle sometimes here or there
Somewhere that's cool, that's cool, yeah
And the true spirit
Yeah
But he said he was in somewhere in Africa
and Namibia
And he was like treated like a fish
Like let's get over it
This guy's like polishing rocks and selling him
But he was just there
He was like a long-term backpacker
So he was just there
And after like a while
The buses keep coming and leave and he stays
Then they eventually go
Who are you? What's your name?
Then they're like oh now you're a human
We're not getting any money off you
So let's talk I guess
Yeah and that's the thing is I think
When you land in a place
And India fucking scarred me in so many ways
But now I always say, if they're like, how long have you been here?
Like just making small talk.
But you know they're sizing you up.
I'm like, I've been here three weeks.
I just always tell people, oh, I've been here a month.
I've been here two months.
Yeah, what's the, why tell them I'm here right away?
You're just going rob.
Because then I'm like, I know the prices.
And then one of my Chinese friends told me, if you're ever anywhere, and anybody quotes you
at any price for anything, cut it by 10.
Like if the hotel's 2000, give them 20.
Be like 20.
And then start bargaining from there because their price is way too high.
You're just way too low.
and then you can, you know.
I was buying a hookah in Egypt.
Hell, yeah.
And I researched how much it should be.
But the bargaining is like, I mean, you're just not, you're, oh, look at that picture.
That's a guy named Ari Shafir I met in.
Oh, fucking way.
Yeah.
I saw, I saw, I saw, there was a sign up for like a boat cruise in the hostel, Sunset Cruise.
And I was like, oh, no, I crossed it off.
And then I heard, who crossed my name off?
And I'm like, what?
He spelled it with 1F.
It was crazy.
Wow.
Where was it from?
Somewhere in America.
Wow.
Shafir's also a made up name.
What, like Ellis Island thing?
My dad made it up when he came, when he went to Israel.
His old name was too, like, German sounding after the war.
Yeah, same with my last name.
Like, I went to Ireland because it's like an Irish last name.
I went to Ireland.
I was like, oh, my last name's this, this, this.
And they're like, we've never heard of that.
And I was like, fuck.
It's funny.
It's like, your roots are at the border to America.
Exactly.
What was they saying?
Oh, fuck.
Luckily, it didn't matter.
I mean, uh, Rolf or Rolf talking about bargaining and shit, Namibia, right?
Yeah.
It's gone, buddy.
The weed brain.
Yeah, I did a smoke to get it back.
God, I miss my, Myanmar.
It's a good time, man.
It's, um, I really wish.
Where else do you go to, do you know?
You really wish what?
In Myanmar?
Yeah.
Yeah, just, uh, and then I didn't, fuck.
I think just, I just posted up for it.
That's it.
Three cities.
Yeah, yeah.
Just a little two-week tour.
I didn't want to go too fast because, you know, I read Bagabonding,
and it's kind of like what informs a lot of the ways that I travel.
I just wanted to take it slower.
Yeah, hell, yeah.
Explain.
Tell how much you got out.
Well, I read it when I was in, I was living in Japan.
I was living for a year, and I bought the book, and it just like, it felt like, it felt like
I wrote it.
Like, it felt like it was written towards me, if that makes sense.
Like, it was everything that I think, just, like, summarize into a book, if that
makes sense.
So I was like, hell yeah.
then it changed my life and then from there I changed your life absolutely absolutely yeah I mean
I was like this is what I'm supposed to do like I'm supposed to fucking travel yeah and it gives you
so many tips on it yeah it's practical too and it's like dated obviously it's like 20 years old
talking about like you know go to www. whatever dot com but it's like the ethos of travel is
yeah some of it definitely is updating but I think he might have updated like there's certain things like
um a goda was not a site or a hostile world was not a site there were no sites back this
So it's like a little bit different.
There's this book on poker tells.
I forget his name.
Some kind of cowboy.
Mike Caro, poker tells.
Okay.
It was written in the 70s.
And there's this whole breakdown.
It's written in the 70s of racial tells.
Oh.
And it's like, you're going to have to edit that out.
Yeah, you know?
But it's like in the new version of this, like you can't have that.
But it's pretty much like, oh, a Mexican on payday.
If it's a Friday,
And you're playing against Latino, keep pushing them.
Right.
They will not, they will not fold a Jack Deuce.
Right.
The racial arithmetic.
Holy shit, man.
Yeah.
Vagabani really was.
I've gifted it to so many people.
It's the only thing I'll gift to people.
To be like, you can get something out of this.
Yeah.
When you see them like kind of on the fence of something,
I'm like, this will help you.
Yeah.
Yeah, it'll definitely change the way you see things
because it's like traveling is more of a spirit it's not necessarily like what you're doing it's
like how you're doing it yeah so i've read it in japan i was like fuck yeah and then i had like a
bullshit english teaching job it meant nothing to me i wasn't yeah i wasn't making any difference in
the world i was just like a fucking degenerate alcoholic that wore a suit and like pretended to be
professional um asian teachers yeah i was they are pieces of shit you don't want your kids with these
with these adults, but they're, I guess, tactically an adult right now, yeah.
I can't tell you the number of times I woke up on the sidewalk after a night of drinking in
Japan.
Summer camp, you're not in my suit.
Like, all right, let's just go to work now.
Where was I going with that?
Oh, yeah, but like, it meant nothing.
So I would just, like, switch shifts with other teachers.
It was like kind of being a waiter.
Like, you just get, you know, move your shift to whoever the fuck.
And as long as someone, as long as a white guy is in the chair, they don't give a fuck who it is.
So I went to Thailand and I went to like all over Japan and stuff and it just kind of like inspired me to yeah just start sending it
You read that and then that's what made you yeah I was like fuck yeah let's do this like this is this is who I am now
I mean you're already in a place to be open to it yeah mentally I mean and also physically but like yeah
I read it in Myanmar oh hell yeah my friend Justin my agent but my friend he was like okay you're doing this thing
try to talk me out of it because like come on we're starting to do well what do you what do you mean to your
taking off for months at a time.
He's like, dude, you gotta pay my salary.
Yeah, he heard about it.
He goes, take this.
And nope, I didn't, I didn't read it in Myanmar.
I took it all through Myanmar.
I found an Ansan Suu Kee book of like interviews.
That's that leader who was in a house arrest in my first hostel.
And I was like, oh, I should read this in Myanmar.
So I didn't read until I got to an island in Cambodia and then I opened a bag of bonding.
Okay.
And read it and it was like, oh, luckily I was already doing it.
Yep.
But it was like so many tools.
for yeah for how to do and prepare for coming home oh that one is the toughest one like the
hitting that landing right is fucking how that's hard man like i'm sure after you're a southeast
asia trip you come back with all this new knowledge and your friends are like who gives a
fuck that was that would it helped me to be ready for that yeah because they're not going to care
yeah they're going that's actually what this podcast is is like i do care so like i do want to
hear it i don't interrupt too much because i'm excited but i'm not going to change it to like
gossip at the office.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
It was just like, yeah, we get back.
I mean, do you have that?
Do you deal with that?
Oh, yeah, no.
Like, reverse travel shock or culture shock is a real thing.
Yeah, you come back and feel like your friends don't understand, like, this new version
of you.
You have these stories that they're not interested in that they just want to go drink
Bud Light at like the Buffalo Wild Wings and like.
And it's like, I'll go drink Bud Light with you.
But like, guys, I had the most magical experience.
Yeah.
You'll ever, we can just talk about it once.
Yeah.
It's crazy not to.
it's almost like doing psychedelics like it's hard to relay and people don't care you're like
guys we're all one and they're like yeah we don't give a fuck that's a thing you're not you can't relay
it it's difficult I think it's hard to like package it in a way that that's why I feel like being
funny is like a good because I try to do like a humorous take on travel because it's so easy like
funny shit just happens you like I'm sorry I'll say something earlier yeah um fuck what was I
saying oh like it helps to like make it in an entertaining package instead of just like I
I'm in, me and Martin, it changed my life, like, next to a temple.
Like, no one cares, you know, so.
I almost called this podcast.
I was, like, contained on a list of, like, possible titles.
I almost called it amazing.
Because whenever you say how was something like, people always just go, oh, it's amazing.
And it doesn't describe anything.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, they're not, you're not talking about the shitter, like the toilet or me and my
girlfriend were at some bus stop in Cambodia going across the land border to Vietnam.
And, dude, it literally looked like a bomb went off in the bathroom.
Like, the sink was cut in hatch.
What?
Like, it was literally in, like, shards were just like, and I mean, people, that doesn't make
the video.
Like, no one ever shows that, you know?
This theory of everyone's like, L.A. sucks all homeless.
Like, because you're showing the homeless.
Yeah.
If you just showed the burrito places, you'd be like, wow, L.A.'s a great place for street burritos.
Yeah.
Right.
And the travel bloggers don't show, like, you have piles of poop.
And, like, on.
So same with their mom bloggers.
They don't ever show their kid with, like, cookies in their face.
Yeah.
Or, like, they're blown out pussy.
after having a kid.
Yeah, show your blown-out pussy.
Show me that, yeah.
Show me the fucking blown-out pussy.
Mommy blogger turned only fans, influencer.
Let's go.
Yeah, but I think some of it,
so I met with this like writer,
like TV writer afterwards,
and a manager was like,
and he was like,
you should write about this stuff.
There's a sitcom here or drama.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was like, all right,
well, here's the problem.
I don't know how to see that.
That's one.
I keep blocking it.
No, I can see it.
I can see it.
But like, so on that three-day hike, we came across a soccer game on the mountains,
these kid's soccer game, and the backdrop was like these fucking beautiful mountains and whatever.
And it's like, all you hear is that's a soccer game.
But it was like, no, it took us a day and a half to get there.
Yeah, we had to earn that.
Yeah, and we just pulled up and we're like, let's sit here for a bit.
We had this homemade, like, sunblock on our faces.
Yes, the root, the ground up route.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, they put on you.
and it's like and that's like uh and it's just like the feeling you get from getting to that
place is different than just if you just got transported there yeah no that's why i think you
should take land borders like because you're flying you don't you're not earning it like you
could probably technically fly to the summit of everest but you wouldn't appreciate it like
someone that spent fucking 30 days hiking there you know yeah yeah you got to like struggle a little
bit so how do you do it where you just where you convey to people that like it's it's an emotion
connected with, sorry,
it's like not funny right now,
but it's an emotion connected
with the place.
Yeah, I mean, I think
if you're genuinely excited to be there,
like I think you can convey that
like really well.
Honestly, like, if you're excited.
Those are the Jews.
Those are the Canadians.
Okay.
One of those chicks was in line
for a second time.
I'm off of the left of them.
That's them.
That's them fucking in,
the people you hiked with?
No, that's by the river.
Oh, okay.
That's by the river and where you heard gunfire.
Okay, okay.
Nice.
I'm sorry.
All right.
But yeah, go ahead.
But yeah, I think if you're just excited about it, like people will be able to see that.
I think people can see that like on your podcast.
Like you're excited to talk about it and then that, therefore, they're excited to listen to it.
So that's all it is.
Right.
Like you're the conduit for the idea and the place, you know, so.
Yeah.
Do you ever feel like taking a camera takes you out of it?
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
But honestly, like, I'm reading another one of Rolf Potts's books now.
What?
Marco Pol didn't go there.
I never read that one.
How was it?
It's good.
Yeah, it's just like really fun stories.
and um wait fuck what were we talking about uh conveying excitement oh does this cameras hold you back
oh he he like did something where he like tried to get on the set of like a leonardo decaprio
movie and i was like this is ridiculous this is like one of the most insane things i've ever heard
he like took a little tugboat out into like the pp islands and like swam in the middle of the night
to get on this island so the beach yeah yeah i'm saying with the movie the movie's the beach he
tried to get on it yeah on the set just for funsies and then
I was like reading the end notes and it's like I did this I did this to write a story about it
and I was like oh that's interesting because I was going to ask him I'm doing his like writing
class in Paris are you really yeah yeah I did it two years ago okay hell yeah oh bro it's so
fun really which level are you doing just the beginner one okay that's what I did he was like
you're already kind of creative but like I couldn't swing the dates for the second one okay
yeah but also you get so much out of it hell yeah I'm excited man yeah it's gonna be
sick oh but yeah he that was on the recommended this year you're doing it yeah yeah like in
couple months yeah hell yeah yes sir yeah i'm excited it's gonna be fucking sick it's so fun yeah
they take you on like well maybe i won't ruin anyway for you but like they take you on like
tours of paris while you're like but like literary tours give you like all these like they made
you like do a bunch of writing without adjectives interesting so you can like be more descriptive
interesting um yeah they made us follow people and like try to write their story
So it was like sleuthing and you're just like nearby trying to get caught.
You got your little like Parisian like a little, uh, detective hat on like, yeah, like whatever.
Oh, it was such a good class.
That's crazy.
You're no role.
Well, I mean, yeah, I've read his book.
I can't remember how I heard about it years ago.
But, uh, but yeah, I really love his shit.
And he really understands like how to do it.
But anyways, yeah, I was reading the footnotes and it was like, yeah, I did this too right about it.
And he's like, sometimes I will do something just to make a story out of it.
he's like it pushes me further it makes me like take risks and it makes me a little more
interesting and and i find that too like honestly it's kind of like a give and take it's like the
white privilege thing it's like never always bad or it's never always good it's just like a new
kind of variable in the equation if that makes sense um like there are some video like i would
never get on the back of a scooter with a drunk guy why the fuck would i intentionally drunk drive
right in like a military dictatorship country you know i mean just but i was like i'm filming and
this is fun so let's just keep it's also right there it's kind of like with
blow where it's like no no no it's like we're all doing i was like okay then fine sure yeah
yeah like everyone says no it's like everyone's head goes nice and you're like sure i'm like yeah
yeah you're not dead so i wasn't planning on it yeah it's like everyone's like i always wear condoms
like what if one's not around like then i'll raw dog oh yeah you don't have principles let's be
honest question then absolutely 100% i'll just leave it in without even asking if they have anything
I fucked this chick once in that I caught him
And I was like
Hey just to be clear
You don't have anything
She goes no I'm like
And if you got pregnant
You'd get rid of it
She was no no I would never get an abortion
I'm like all right
One stroke
One stroke
Like the hottest Mormon girl
Like you're like all right let's just try
I'm really rocking on the line here
Yeah
Yeah that's the thing was like
You should be filming this stuff
I'm like but then I won't be living it
There's a give and take for sure
This is a give and take, but I mean, we just watched my video.
That seemed cool.
That guy didn't seem like he was acting for you.
No, no, no, no, no.
And I wasn't acting.
I was just like, I was just trying to film an intro, just doing whatever.
I mean, it's pretty low.
You've also minimized your like, it's just this instead of having a team with you.
Yeah, I don't know, just get a GoPro.
Maybe an external mic at most.
But, I mean, you'd be surprised.
Like, I mean, I'm sure like crazy shit happens all the time.
And it's just like, I wish I filmed that, you know?
Or like, it's just here.
And then as you age, it gets harder to relive.
Like, like my phone got stolen a while back in, like,
years of my life were just disappeared so yeah it sucks so i like to film stuff now and just to
remember you journal i'm starting to yeah yeah kind of gay but you know that was in that
hostel some one of the canadian jokes she was like right what do you write and she goes no i just
have 10 minutes every morning i just like see what i did and i was like oh and then i'm so glad
i met her and did that because it was like you'd look back at details i forget people completely
forgot a human that i lived with for four days yeah and that's good because it's like
never for anyone else it's like unadulterate it's like pure but i find like when i'm traveling
just with a go pro it's like very low impact it's like no one really freaks out at it
it's people in the u.s do whatever yeah like people like on the west coast and stuff care but everybody
portlanders people with blue hair like lesbians they get mad they're like why are you feeling me i'm
like you're no one no one will know who you are in this video you are nobody why are you
to make fun of you to be honest
but it's going to be anonymous
but I'm going to be mocking you for sure
I mean you got me on that
you're not going to come off great in this
but no one will know you
yeah that's true yeah
but you know I find that like
I enjoy filming you know and
even when I don't want to post it I still film shit
me and my girlfriend did a trip in New Zealand
I probably never posted I just filmed it like for a video
just to see it you know I mean it is a new way of journaling
yeah and it's real it's like
so real and you can see you
like five years ago like oh I look different or I was you know yeah it's cool it's like a time
portal you know damn I want to go to Myanmar I think you should go man I gotta go back to
Southeast Asia it's been calling me for like four solid years and I'm like can't get back can't
get back with time okay because this is pretty much all you do yeah that's so freeing it's cool
it can be a prison sometimes like but yeah it's awesome I mean just with like the workload
but no no I mean it's it's the best job I think I could ever imagine
for sure yeah I have this other job that I do love stand-up comedy but but this traveling thing
is so so it's like ah fuck I get back to this other job so you see it like a job to travel
stand-up no no traveling no I see it's so fun and freeing and whatever but stand-up is this job
which is also not a job I do it for free all the time just because it's fun but also like I got to do
a tour I don't have time right now to go off to wherever yeah my friend just invited me to
Mongolia. I'm like, no, I won't be able to free that time up until like about a year
and a half from now.
Damn.
Instead of just like, jump like you. We're like, sick. Let's go.
Yeah. Especially don't have a dog. I don't have kids and everything. And just, yeah,
no, it's, that is the best. It's especially like if you're having a tough day or like,
fuck it, I could just fly to Tokyo and have some ramen and like rip sigs inside. And
that definitely makes me feel better, knowing that I just have that capability.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get the ability to go, nope.
Yeah. No, exactly. I'm like,
Like, fuck it. And especially me, I don't have really any employees. I'm just like, you know, fuck it, I'm out. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, well, I'm going to be going here. So that means I can't go there. If I'm going here, I can't go there. It's like you've got to choose one or the other. And I only have two months, a month to do it in. Yeah, that is. The opportunity costs always hurts for sure, like not knowing, like what you're missing out on. But, you know, I just got to risk it sometimes. Yeah. All right. Let's wrap this up. All right.
there wasn't anything else
I mean even watching that
it's so funny too
so me and Roll for having this discussion once
and we figured out of writing technique
where he was telling me something about
it was in Paris in the writing class
I was doing his podcast
and he said something
that reminded me of the same country
something else had happened
yeah and so I was like oh I took the train there
to whatever and then that reminded him of like
oh I took a train in Uzbekistan
wants to get me to this
to get this meal
I'm like oh dude I was in Ecuador
I got this meal this fresh meal
and it just like it just pops off
You can do with travel people like there are millions of stories and I'm just remembering all
this stuff I forgot the cigarettes I forgot I forgot the face paint yeah me too actually I forgot all this
stuff until you like bring up a nearby idea yeah and then it's like oh yes yeah that's why I feel
like your situation is good because you don't film content you just like reminisce on it and it's
the stories are always like golden you know yeah so especially if someone's like really well
travel like dude you can just like me and Tommy and my friend were like stuck on a bus this
like military bus from kyrgyzstan to china and we didn't have service i didn't have a sim
card because i was like afraid they were going to like bug my phone and long story but uh
no power like no lights on the bus nothing to do and we just like sit and riffing for like four
hours just like story for story it was just like dude golden like yeah those are the times you
remember for sure yeah my last day in in uh yangon my group had left you know you meet a little group
at first you're like I don't know anybody but then you realize neither do they yeah they all met yesterday
so you're like you guys are old friends like they're not they just drank yesterday and so then I
my group left and I'm like okay at this hostel I'm like uh it's like I come back from a little
exploration of the city and then I come back there's other people there and like we're all going
to like a rooftop bar I guess man got had a lot of rooftop bars and one of them was overlooking that
golden oh yeah nice nice and there's one chick she had that she had that she had that um
Tolkien quote on her neck
Like not all the
Yeah
Yeah
And I was like Tolkien
She was what nobody knows that
And I was a nerd
But like
You're not special
Every white girl has a tattoo
And I had just gotten into
So I was like okay
I'm just
I'm five days in
So but she told me about
And Kazakhstan
And yeah
Okay
And she was like
It was so cool
It's unchat
Untapped or whatever
Actually bleep it
And then
And then
And then it's in my head now from this thing that I'm like, I've got to get there.
Yeah, you should, man.
And my buddy's actually there right now.
Oh, like doing a Mongolia tour or two.
And like, there'd be a different time.
Okay.
But like I just really want to.
Have you been?
No, never been.
The only Central Asian, or maybe I shouldn't say that.
But no, I've only been to a couple countries in the region.
It's hard to get to, especially with the Russian sanctions.
You have to fly.
You have to do some finagling with the, yeah, because you can't fly through Russia to get there.
But she was like, totally safe.
And it was like, all the stand.
She goes, not all the stands.
She goes, that one is.
But no one's been there.
So you're just like, it's yours.
It's a playground that's just for you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like your video there, me, I'm like, that's your own playground.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's amazing.
Just, yeah.
It's beautiful.
I mean, that's why we do it, man.
Right.
The untouched gems, you know.
Yeah, it really is.
You get to a place where, like, oh, this is it.
I'm in a level of comfort that I'm okay.
Yeah.
And I'm the only white.
Yeah.
And I'm like, I'm comfortable now being here.
It's the only white.
Yeah.
And then like, now let's talk to people.
Let's explore.
Right.
Yeah, it makes you wonder like how the colonizers felt back in the day.
Like arriving for like the first time.
He must have felt great.
Like gods, bro.
Like this is mine now.
Yeah.
Who's that guy, the painter who went to French Polynesia?
I don't know.
He painted them really well.
But he was like really living into a colonel.
colonizer or colonizer and he like had all these like child brides oh god yeah you're probably
describing a lot of french colonizers right now yeah but this guy and he painted it really great um
uh paul gogan okay anyway they had this like they had this um thing of like this little museum
somewhere in the middle of nowhere of like different americans that have come there brando really
loved it and whatever and then but paul gogan they were like uh lived here for this and this died of misery
1883
He was such a fucking cunt
But he played with these beautiful colors
And like showed a world
That no one had seen
Like this shit with like
These type of dress and stuff
People like what is that
People back in France were like
What?
Yeah
Yeah he found it
And just like leaned in
Wait so why did he die
Why was he just a boozer
And just a wreck
He would always like beat his child wives
And just like
He was like you work for me
I'm white
Like one of those
And he was like damn
You leaned in
Holy shit
What year was this
Like 18s
Okay, okay, okay.
Yeah.
That was kind of what was going on back then.
Yeah, so right.
So they got there like, wow, what is this?
Right, let's just, everyone.
Yeah, no laws, only guns.
We have the only ones.
Yeah, we're the government now.
We say, we're good.
I just come there.
I'm like, I'm your captain now.
Yeah.
All right.
So before I leave, two questions.
Travel tip, either specific or general.
Yeah.
Travel lights been taken a thought of times.
Yeah.
And then also a place you've never been to just calling you.
Well, I would say take land borders, but I feel like we already said that.
Okay.
My advice goes out to all the European influencers, all like the 18-year-old Germans that think
they're discovering something new.
Just shut the fuck up.
Stop telling Americans that we have bad school shootings.
Stop telling us we have bad health care.
We fucking know.
Shut your goddamn mouths.
We're dealing with it.
I'm not in charge of it.
Yeah.
All right.
What do you want me to do?
Yeah.
I left.
I'm not the president.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I see problems too.
We're dealing with it.
internally all right shut the fuck up also we can talk about that after a few beers but don't
open with that don't be like oh your school shootings oh the children why don't you save the
children and I'm like buddy I'm yeah we're doing jello shots like how is this yeah exactly
you're kicking out squatters yeah if I'm gonna make room for Google like we can do this both
ways all the time yeah exactly how far back do you think I'd have to go German before I win this
argument dude under a hundred years if you can't find out
what I'm gonna fucking call attention to.
I was in a guest house in Kyrgyzstan
and this German guy was like lecturing me about guns.
Like I just met him.
And he's like, come to Germany
and we'll teach you something.
And I was like, are you serious?
Like your dad was probably an SS officer, dude.
Like shut your goddamn mouth.
I, right.
Like where you get off?
All right.
That's a good travel tip.
Shut your goddamn mouth.
Yeah.
And don't judge somebody for their fucking country.
Yeah.
Judge them on a personal level.
Like you see cool.
We're not your government.
And we're here to have like,
a cross-cultural, humble, no-judgment conversation in like the middle of nowhere.
Like, why are you making this about politics?
I met a guy in Thai, a Chinese guy in Thailand.
And it was like, and he was telling me how like my, well, not my age, but my like emotional age.
You know, he's probably like 30.
And it was just like, and he goes, yeah, you can't really do much in China.
They don't let you do this.
Here I am.
Like we're drinking mushroom shakes and smoking weed.
And it's like, it's just like, I don't know.
Everybody wants you to do standard shit.
I'm like, oh, okay, this is like a connection on a social level.
Where, like, you're telling me what's expected of you in China.
Not like what your government does, but, like, you specifically, why you're leaving there, while you're traveling.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just weird.
It's just like, why are you, I wouldn't meet a Chinese person and be like, what about the camps, dog?
What about the Muslims in the camp?
Like, why would you lead with that?
You're a fucking psychopath.
Like, well, when I got back from Myanmar, actually, so six, eight months later, all this stuff came out about the Rohingya and how they're being slaughtered.
Yeah.
And they go, what about that already?
as if I'm a spokesman from Myanmar.
Yeah.
And I'm like, guys, they intentionally wouldn't let me anywhere near that.
So I didn't see any of that.
That wasn't my Myanmar.
My Myanmar was putting paste paint on and smoking,
getting food poisoning from those cigars and quail eggs.
It's not that deep.
I think China especially is like one of the most like heavily polarizing places.
Like you can't just go and have a good time.
They're like, are you being paid?
Are you like, it's just like I had a good time.
Why is that like a crime?
China is a blast.
It rules, bro.
It's sick.
so fun yeah it's like the east Asia but like wild wild west like you can do like whatever
you want I did so much coke in Beijing and people like isn't it a punchable by death and
everyone just like come on and I was like what they're like yeah yeah that's with the story but
they don't they don't bother us that's amazing yeah yeah you buy a beer at 3 a.m and just drinking
on the streets yeah that's the thing with Asia you just drink everywhere smoke anywhere you want
China it's like no smoking you're like yeah right like yeah it's like a Berlin nightclub you're
smoking right by a sign
says no smoking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
And where else,
where are you looking to go?
I don't want to get too specific,
but I would say like...
You want to not say that you're saying.
Yeah.
Do you worry about ruining places?
100%.
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
For sure.
But I think if you're like given honest appraisal of a place,
you're not ruining it.
But if I went to like,
you know,
fucking Brunei.
I was like, oh, it's amazing.
Everyone should come here, and I made, like, propaganda, that'd be one thing.
But if I'm like, it's great, but I had to shit in this hole and, like, you know, my girlfriend
got touched, like, by some guy, you know, like, I think if you're honest about it, you're
not, like, involved in ruining it.
But I guess if you have a great time, it's, I don't know, it's hard.
I struggle with it.
I worry about it.
Yeah.
Because it's not the Eiffel Tower.
That's known.
You go, here I am at the Eiffel Tower.
They have these hawkers on the Lung San that sell you, like, old magazines.
Like, oh, cool.
You can find it.
it people are going all the time yeah it's those places like i'll bleep out i won't play that
name okay um just because it's like yeah once it gets overrun yeah but at the same time i don't
think me and mar is i mean maybe if the military figures out their shit but if it's impossible to get
to i don't mind saying a name of a restaurant because like you ain't getting there yeah you know
yeah uh but if it's like a specific place that you can get to kind of easily then i'm like i don't
want to like a mom and pop in like hanoy yeah i'm not going to say the name that's a good point
it's it's difficult i feel like you can never have and just as tourists we can never have a truly
authentic experience because we're always like kind of seeing what they want us to see yeah
and then you're always kind of ruining it so i think tourism there is a healthy balance to strike
i don't know man i do struggle with it though for sure i also don't want somebody walking in
someone else's footsteps i want the footsteps go let's like paris a good example
You don't have to go to my cafe
Just wander the streets
You'll find a coffee shop
And you'll sit down and have your own great time
You'll talk to the owner
It doesn't have to be the one you heard about
I know man
And like I lived in Japan
And I know a good deal about it
And like my patrons are always like
Patreon.com slash small brain American
They're always asking me about like
What bar to go to and stuff
I'm just like just go and like whatever
Smells good just go there
And like whatever
Where you hear clinking glasses just go there
Like I'm not gonna give you a fucking itinerary
Like you know
Because if someone holds your hand
It like takes the fun
out of it.
Yeah, here too.
It's like whatever neighborhood you're in, there's going to be a couple
shitty dollar slices and there's going to be one
to two really good pizza places that everyone in that
neighborhood says is the best. Just find it.
Yeah.
I'm not going to tell you.
Yeah.
Just find it.
And it's part of the journey too.
Because if you had to do that in New York, you'd ask like the Pakistani owner,
or what about this?
And then you're making connections and, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's no shortcuts.
There's like an idea.
I read this check writer.
I forget.
But I just read a passage.
and it was about like you ruin places
and it was just that idea
and just like just change names
change titles change names
there's nothing gained by calling it
this exact thing
you know say northern Thailand
instead of a specific city
say like make up a city name
yeah that's fair
because who cares
it just wants to sound real
that's a good point actually
yeah just call it you know whatever
you say I'm in China
and I'm making up and it was like
we're in a you know
Hatonga
well that sounds like
that sounds all right
I was in Ching Chong
there actually is a city called Chongqing
so it's not that far off
but like makes it up
it sounds real and then some people like cool
God I don't need to know this
yeah that's a good point actually
and I won't put stuff in writing
that's transferred too easily
okay yeah
no that's a good idea actually
maybe I'll start doing that
because then it adds like a level of a lure
to it like where is he like
or just be like oh I'm in West Africa
and I'm like where is he
and then you're always looking for clues in the video
I think it might actually make it more engaging
Do you know, have you ever read American gods, or gods of America?
Yeah, I almost finished it, but the ending was so fucking weird.
I couldn't do it.
Yeah.
Like where he's like tied to a cross and he's like hallucinating.
I was like, I can't, I can't do this anymore.
Yeah, fair.
Did you finish it?
Yeah, love it.
And then, I didn't get it.
I felt like there was too much allegory.
I felt like I was too stupid to understand it.
That's possible.
Yeah.
I'm not, if you get my drift.
Yeah.
But anyway, so he wrote about all these, like, magical places.
in America, the House of the Rock,
of New Orleans, all these different places
that are like, hey, if there's like everyone's
going there for no reason, it's like,
that's where the gods meet up, actually.
That theory of like, that's, there's something there.
Why is everyone fighting about the Western Wall?
It's like, there's some magic there.
Okay.
So the tacky tourist destinations are like.
So he wrote all these diners,
but these diners along the way, like on Route 66,
some random diner in the middle of nowhere.
And he goes, half of them exist.
And a good 25 to 50s.
50% of them I made up
because I don't want you knowing if you can find
this place or not. I want you're going to go looking
for it if you're on the route but it
might not even be there.
Interesting. So he left some like
some false breadcrumbs.
Interesting. No, that's smart.
Yeah. Yeah, and it adds
yeah, like a level of a lure to it.
Because then they would have, but I wonder if there's like
some meta thing that he was trying to do where he's like
I don't want it to be a new tourist attraction where
my face is on the wall.
Exactly.
I want to just be like,
Ill Gaiman wrote about this.
Exactly, where it's like,
all right,
you're going to go from place something.
You might try to find it,
but you don't want to doing the whole,
like,
the exact tour.
Right.
Yeah,
that's,
that's true.
Yeah.
Maybe I'll start bleeping our names.
I'll do,
like, specific small restaurants.
What's the point of telling it?
Like,
you ever see that,
um,
is the guy who killed himself,
the chef?
Bourdain.
Yeah.
And he's with that chick who killed him.
Um, uh,
she must have had a great pussy.
I mean,
like,
great pussy.
Yeah,
to die for her.
the name of this restaurant it's in the documentary and he goes no no no don't don't say it
and she goes why he goes what do you want a line of american tourists out the door yeah she goes maybe
i do and it's like bitch shut oh she was french no i'm just doing her like that's a accent the french
accent's the cussain but it's like you know you don't you want a fucking cool place you want your
neighborhood pizza place yeah hole in the wall yeah that's true that's true and they're not
dying they're not struggling they're doing fine let it keep doing fine right i guess that's the
argument I would I would say towards saying the name is like if they're struggling and you know
like a hostile in Myanmar it's like fuck man like there's two people here maybe we should give them
some business you know yeah a specific like lodge in the Amazon it's like go to this one
instead of that one yeah cab driver in Greece we're like hey look up sake he was great
okay sure yeah plus I feel like then then you're actually encouraging people to get out there and
actually see it for themselves instead of being fucking lazy I'm like oh where did where did
Connor tell me to go, where'd already tell me to go.
They're like...
Right.
You're walking in someone else's footsteps, but the finding it on your own is such a joy.
It is, man.
Honestly, like...
I didn't find the right one.
You didn't find the right pool place.
Yeah.
It's just one of them.
And you made a connection.
There's no right college.
Plus then you have this expectation in your head, and then it will never live up to there.
It's like, you know, the Japanese tourists, have heard about this?
They go to Paris.
Yeah.
And they have, like, dysphoria.
They, like, named a fucking dysfunction over it.
Like, it's called, like, Paris dysphoria or something, where Japanese people
girls especially they think they're all cute going to paris and they see all these movies yeah all these
like proposals and fucking romantic stuff happening and they go there and it smells like shit and there's like
you know fucking all these immigrants and like people are shitting in the street and yeah the river
smells and then they like freak out they're like what even is life anymore and they like kill themselves
good good less asia's that japanese aren't bad it's the chinese yeah that's true that's true mainlanders
buddy thank you very much
yeah it's great to meet you yeah it's been a pleasure man yeah it's been super fun yeah sorry
it's went longer than I was no hey we got roll it was sick yeah yeah yeah yeah
you should jump on my pot after this okay yeah yeah um small braided American uh
Patreon Patreon YouTube Instagram he barely touches mm-hmm um but the YouTube one is where
you're making your best shit yes sir yes sir I try yeah um YouTube dot com slash at small brain
American I'll put something in earlier too so thank you thank you man it's been pleasure
yeah you're fucking doing it right you're having a blast thanks dog yeah you gotta you ought to come on the next
trip yeah yeah yeah we'll meet up somewhere yeah sure let's do it okay hell yeah yeah yeah I'll tell you where
I'm going travel and maybe like if you're anywhere near there yeah absolutely so funny I went to
Ecuador for six months during pandemic because like live indoor gathering was done for quite a while
yeah um so it was like I don't want to keep going to the airport and getting a call like turn around
Arizona shut down oh yeah so I went to Ecuador and all of my friends are like oh I can visit you
I'm like sure I'll map it out
I'll make sure to see what's safe once not
One friend came
Everybody else is like
I don't have time
I gotta take a nothing but time
Yeah I gotta take a local bus
Nah I gotta no AC
Yeah yeah yeah
All right
Thank you buddy
Hell yeah brother
Well everybody that was the episode
Thank you very much
The Sir Small Brained American for coming in
Guys check out his YouTube account
For real it's a great one
YouTube.com slash
At Small Brained American
Yeah he's got great stuff
he goes all over. The Myanmar stuff is sick. It really took me back. I mean, I haven't been
there in so long. If you've heard this podcast, you know how much I love Myanmar. And I finally got
someone to talk to about it. We'll also talk to Turner, Sparks about it, who's also there. He's the one
who told me about it at some point I'll come in. We do multiple. So if you're new to this podcast,
we'll do multiple times in the same country. We'll do multiple countries by the same person.
Small-brain American has been to many countries. So who will be back on this podcast?
buddy if you're listening come meet me somewhere come meet me somewhere we'll do one from
you know where i am i took your um phone number or email i forget with me so i'm gonna contact
you now that i'm back online and uh yeah come meet me somewhere it'll be cool today's episode
is produced by your mom's house network is edited by alan kaffi um but go to small brain
american's youtube account and check out his podcast small brained pod it's on youtube as well
YouTube.com slash at smallbrained pod and his Patreon, patreon.com slash smallbrained American
where he puts up extra details from all his videos all over the world.
Yeah, start his podcast with my episode.
That's out.
I think he timed it so it's about right now or coming out really soon, like in this week.
And that's it.
Subscribe wherever you're listening.
But man, guys, get to Myanmar.
I know they for a while were like loosening up their grip and then they went right back
hard to like re-grip.
They put Ansan Suu Kyi, since I was there, back under house arrest.
They went hard on killing the Rohingya.
Yeah, they went hard on human rights abuses.
So if you're there and visiting one of the Karen villages with the Rohingya were being
slaughtered daily, don't forget to put up a Ubi tripping sticker to let them know you've
been there.
Who did I meet that had been in one of the, was it him?
Small Brain American?
Next week is one of my episodes, you guys.
One of my own trips.
By the way, I'm sorry I interrupted Mr. American too much,
but I just got so excited.
I got so excited.
Next week, me and my friend Ethan go to Guatemala
for the Festo de Santo Tomas.
It's one of the ones that I was on a trip on.
So me and my friend Ethan live from, I think, Gold Coast.
I think we did it from Gold Coast
in Australia, but it was about our trip to Guatemala.
It was so fun.
And, yeah, check out the intro and outro from there
because I did it from Guatemala.
That's it. I think that's everything.
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New podcast listeners.
Yeah, it's a different one.
Go last week.
Go to the Harlan Williams one.
with Africa.
It's more than one country, but it was one trip.
He's one of the best guests we've ever had.
And then, like, yeah, stay for Ethan.
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Who else is coming up?
Louis Gomez is coming up.
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And that's it, guys.
Until next week.
Oh, wait.
Cup come cop is...
Fuck.
I know how to say it.
say thank you in
Myanmar.
Anyway, get yourself
a teen leaf salad,
get yourself
Jahipanaz
if you're there
and until next week.
I'll see you later.
Bye, everybody.