You Be Trippin' - Netherlands w/ Emma Willmann | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

Follow Emma on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/emmawillmann/ SPONSORS: -Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://shopify.com/trippin , all lowercase. On this episode of You Be Trippin', joins a summer program clearing trails and stays in the closet while in The Netherlands. She and Ari also talk about small villages, nature, museums in Amsterdam, getting mono, and Ari’s virginity. Emma also got really high on a bike ride back to her village. Other topics include: Russian peptides, Black Snake Moan, Voodoo, and going to Alaska with Joe Rogan. Finally, should texting while walking be illegal? Maak je borst maar nat! You Be Trippin' Ep. 62 https://www.instagram.com/arishaffir https://www.instagram.com/youbetrippinpod https://store.ymhstudios.com Chapters 00:00:00 - Intro 00:00:40 - Being a Lesbo & Studying Voodoo 00:04:26 - Trail Clearing in a Remote Location 00:10:15 - More Small Town Trail Clearing & Getting Really High 00:20:01 - Getting Mono, Amsterdam, & More Small Town Stuff 00:25:20 - Bikes, Texting While Walking, & Technology 00:30:02 - Weather & Nature 00:31:22 - Advice & Amsterdam Comedy 00:34:01 - Being in the Closet, Meeting People, & Ari Being Gay 00:38:40 - Being a Comic 00:42:00 - The Countryside & Where Next 00:46:42 - Travel Tips & Russian Peptides 00:51:52 - Hot Springs & Long Layovers 00:54:02 - Regrets & Beautiful Places 00:57:40 - Alaska with Rogan & Wrapping Up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Where you been and where you going? This is Ari's Travel Show. Yeah, we're going to talk about travel today. It's UB Trippin'. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to UB Trippin'. The only travel podcast on the internet that's made in, I don't know, made it created entirely by child labor.

Today my guest is Emma Willman, one of the first comics I saw in New York when I was here that I really realized how fucking great everybody was here. I appreciate that. Thank you for having me, you and all the kids. Yeah, yeah. You were doing a, I never saw in LA a casual mention of being a lesbo.

A casual, yeah. Like it was just so matter of fact that instead of like focusing on it. I think about that a lot in terms of like how to like bring it up in a way to make it like, like address it so I'm not, so in case, just to like, you know, get it out of people's heads, but then not make it be a whole thing.

Yeah, it was such a glance over. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm trying to do. If you'll see, thank you. It was like my girlfriend dropped me off and she fucking pulled out of the curb and it was barely about that. It was as if it was the same as boyfriend. Keep it moving, yes.

It's like, this doesn't matter. I've been, I've really like tried, I've tried to do that, but I noticed sometimes if I don't do it at all Then sometimes it can feel I'll feel like attention, but I could be wrong. It might be in my head I don't know and most they're gonna think you're a boy. It could that's the worst case scenario Which is fine. Yeah, I'd be pretty boy I'd probably a prettier boy than I would be a pretty girl say, but it's pretty girl, too. Thanks. Sorry

Appreciate that Yeah, and we're going up, what are we doing today? Amsterdam, not Amsterdam. Not Amsterdam. Sorry, Netherlands, you gotta tell me about this. What's the story? I did go to Amsterdam too. First?

I went to Amsterdam towards the end, so this is, the whole layout for this was, it was my sophomore year in college and I really wanted to do a study abroad, but I didn't do the research or apply anywhere. Yeah, it sounds like me. So then kinda, I saw like a pamphlet for this program in Jamaica that was studying Rastafarian culture.

You know the like, the voodoo dolls? Yeah. So I thought that seemed interesting, but besides saying, hey, this seems interesting, I didn't put a lot of research into it. That seems extremely interesting. I thought it seemed really interesting. You would have studied it for a year or semester?

Semester. Studying voodoo? Yep. No, a summer. It would have been a summer. That seems awesome. I know. My life could have gone in so many different directions.

You ever think about what you were when you were a kid with the fucking possibilities you could just do? Constantly. Oh. Constantly. You could just go to Jamaica for a summer on someone else's dime and just just study things, interesting things.

Right after I graduated college, I was gonna go work on a farm in Hawaii. And I didn't do it, cause I had done four open mics and I was like, if I stopped doing these open mics now, I don't know if I can keep this momentum going. And I'd done four. I could've gone to Hawaii for like five years

and none of it would have mattered at all. You might not have become a comic. But who cares? Who cares? I could have been living out there. I told Whitney she's gotta get lost and travel and she's like, well, I'm about to start a podcast. This was like years ago, a few years ago.

And I was like, yeah, so you haven't started it, perfect. Yeah, give yourself that time. Because it just gets harder and harder to just go away and do it. But I was gonna go away, do this thing in Jamaica, and I had some friend or someone that knew about it, and they were like, have you really thought this out? Oh, and they said that you might not be wanted there.

And I forget the context of it, but I took it to heart. Cause I didn't know if it was a white thing or a gay thing. So that's what you said that you heard there. They said you might not be wanted there. Cause they said, do you think they really, oh didn't know if it was like a white thing or a gay thing. So that's what you said there that you heard there. They said you might not be wanted there. They said, do you think they re, Oh, you know what it was? It was my girlfriend at the time. She was like, she was like, you know, they might, they probably don't want like some white people coming in and like studying their Voodoo. And then why do they have a program? Right. I didn't know. At the time, at that point,

any time there was a racial conversation, I would shy away from it. I was like, I don't know, I don't fucking know. Yeah, that is a problem with these. Which is, I didn't have the self respect or respect her enough for me to be like, oh, let's look into it more. So I back out of that,

now it's really last minute to find a program, and I applied to this one where you went and did trail clearing in Ode to Meerdum, Holland, the Netherlands. What's, what's the difference in Holland and Netherlands? I think it's the same thing. Really? Okay. Oh, I got to see this on a map. I love seeing them on maps. Ode to me,

it was called Ode to Meerdum where is, which is where it was, which was a couple of hours outside of Amsterdam, but it was, you would go and you would clear trails and how the fuck do you spelled it? Mered M E R D I U M you would, it was supposed to be like two people from two people from, uh, the States, two people from like France. Like it was like lots of like international, not that. No way is this, okay. But- Is it one word?

I think it was three. First is New Holland. Okay. It was a couple hours outside of Amsterdam. Wow. But it was, it was so random how I found it. I went and I remember my dad was really, really worried. How did you find it? I don't know.

Fuck it. I was just Googling summer programs, open, and then this popped up. I remember it was three weeks and I wanted something like that time frame because I wanted a backpack around afterwards. Okay. And I wanted something where I was gonna get

to be in the countryside and I wanted something where I was gonna get to kind of be in the countryside, and I wanted to volunteer. So looking back, have you ever done trail clearing? No, that sounds great. I agree. I met a guy doing it once. It was one of the- And marking trails? So you would do marking trails if you knew,

we had some person that was doing that, but they would just give us machetes and then these knives at the ends of these really long sticks and we would like, whap, whap, whap, whap, and get all the branch and shrubs that were on the trail. It was so therapeutic. One of those? Exactly, yeah.

Whap, whap, whap. It's so fun. It was so fun. You know, maybe I was hanging out with the wrong people at the time because I remember someone being like, you're paying to go do this, and I did. Fuck that, that's like, oh, you're paying the strawberry pick, that's what Mexicans do for money.

But yeah, it's a new experience. It was a great, and it was so therapeutic, because I also love things that, because I overthink, I'm so neurotic, so for me being like, the trail is shrubby, and now it's not, that's so satisfying to me. Like, it felt, I just put on some music and cleared the shrubs. So I must've liked.

I found it. Nice, yep. Wow. That's exactly what it looked like. I found this trail clearing program, but I had no idea of how do you. Trails like this? No.

Yeah, that was like what it was like. Really? No, not those trails. The trails would be like in the woods, but that is exactly what it looked like. Damn, not those trails. The trails would be like in the woods, but that is exactly what it looked like. Damn, that's gorgeous. This is summertime? Summertime.

Was it cold? Commerzgar's cow ass cows like this? I don't, yes, actually we did. We did. It was so beautiful, but it was really remote because to get to it, you fly into Amsterdam and then I took two trains and then two buses.

And my dad was very worried because he was like, you've never gone internationally, you've never traveled international before on your own. And I was pretty disorganized, so I didn't, he was like, are you gonna be able to get here? Because the farther out you go, they don't speak English. But I was, cause they speak. And you look like, what are they?

Dutch. Dutch, oh damn. I think. Yeah, I think that's right. You look like you would blend right in, you look like you're from there. Definitely. So they just came right at you with Dutch? They, you know, now people weren't really talking to me that much, I probably looked pretty lost.

But, or if they were, I didn't know it. I thought they were talking to somebody else. But I got into Amsterdam and then I got to Holland and I remember, I was like the last bus stop that brought me up to this farm. And I remember the driver was like, you're getting out here, are you sure? And I got out and this, it feels like it could've been

the beginning of a horror movie. But. Were you scared? No, not at all. Wow. I was, whatever sophomore year of college is. 20ish? I wasn't scared at all.

Wow. I wonder if I would be scared now. I bet now you would. Especially, have you ever seen Wicker Man? Never even heard of it. It seems like it's there. I think it's Northern, Northern England. Wicker Man?

Just chop people up into bits. They did a Nicholas Cage, well he might have been the original actually. They might have done another one. It's just like a murder. They just lure a cop up there to fuck with him. Yeah, I hadn't seen that many scary movies. That mid-Somar kind of thing.

Yeah, that gets into my, I saw Fucked Me Up, Silence of the Lambs, I probably hadn't seen any of these movies yet, it was a freer time. Maybe sometimes when I'm just by myself, though I feel like very, they all feel like a piece, maybe this is not good, but at the time, beautiful, dropped me off in this farm,

and they had two. 1330 citizens, yeah, sorry, go ahead. Wow. That's nothing. It's nothing. I wonder how this town even like connected with finding a program to get people to pay to come volunteer there.

Cause it was like an exchange, it wasn't an exp, you didn't have to pay in a crazy amount, but it was like you stayed on the farm, you ate, and the idea. Yeah, it seems like you would just stay on the farm, and then it's like, it's covered. You're gonna work off your money here, or your stay. Or you get like a stipend or something, no. Yeah, you'll get some food,

but you're gonna work for it, like anybody here. We paid. Great. But you know what, good for them, if they could get people, they could. It's like, how do you do this, like, Americans are so wealthy, that they, not only will come here to work for us. They're so stupid. They's like how do you do this? Americans are so wealthy that they not only

will come here to work for us. They're so stupid. They're gonna pay us to do it. Yeah, this is where Trump got the idea from. They're gonna come and so we. We're gonna make them build it, yeah. I got there and they had it, it was like two Americans, two Germans, two people from France,

and they would have us, we would rotate meals, like one meal would be like an American meal, French meal, whatever, everyone, we would like rotate meals. Like one meal would be like an American meal, French meal, whatever. And then we would sleep in this little schoolhouse and then go trail clearing during the day. And it was so, it was beautiful. Who were you clearing trails for, the government? I didn't ask.

Wow. I know. Wow. There's got, the word for it, there's a word for it and it's probably not a good one. Doofus, idiot, sucker. Absolutely, because I was, yeah, that's exactly what I was, and that's so pretty.

So pretty. I listened to. So was it just like rolling hills? Yep. It's kind of like Scotland, it looks like. Gorgeous. And were there those canals there too? Mm-hmm.

And everything was really little, like everything. The cars were really little, the houses were really little, like everything. Like the cars were really little, the houses were really little, because they just have like a much more, like there was not, excess was not around in the same way. The cars were just so much smaller. And I remember getting used to it too. Which the boats, like everything.

Like a little over nose? Everything was just small. And it was very, the people were like everything. Like a little over nose? Everything was just small. Wow. And it was very, the people were really friendly, they didn't speak, most of them didn't speak English. Most of the other people that were doing the program did. There's probably like 10 of us. And I had a disc man.

Oh yeah. And I had made like a mix tape and I had, I remember, did you ever listen to this song by Nivea? It was like a pop song where she goes, na na na na na na na na na na na na. I don't remember any of it. But you played that on loop? Played that on loop.

And I'd be clearing the trails listening to Nivea. Oh and then, do you remember, if you don't give a damn, I don't give a fuck. Do you remember that? Yeah, who's that? Presidents. Oh yeah. Something like that.

So I listened to them, Nivea, and I cleared, that's like the power of media is such a trip too. You see this building? No, but it. It's in two pictures. It's weird looking. What is it? What do you mean?

You don't know? It's Luchtwachttoren, Ode Merchium. Yeah, Dutch is hard to. It's so weird when they're talking it. That's just in Amsterdam when you hear them talking, it's like, what the fuck? Wait, so do you have money to spend on food? I think I had, I think I like brought some money with me,

but I think when you're there, like it was like all the meals were like, you would cook with the group. And then I think we went out to dinner once, and then we had like a free day and I rode my bike. Free day. Free to free day and I rode my bike into some town and it was like a small town but I went in,

it was the first time I went into like a pot store and I got a joint. Out there. Out there and there was no, no one was speaking English so they weren't like translating like, this is what this weed does. And I just bought some random joint, smoked it before I got home, which was a mistake,

because as I was bike riding, I just remember getting so high and riding the bike. Those days of high? So high. Early to high, and you're just like, what's going on? It's like the first time your brain's getting some, your brain's not like a grizzled vet of receiving chemicals at that point.

But I remember seeing the cows, and I remember while I was riding my bike, I remember seeing the cows and thinking they were like turning their heads and looking at me. And I just was, got so stoned. They probably were. I was probably, they probably were looking at me. I can't believe you weren't scared at all.

I know, that really is weird. You know what it might be? I grew up in such a small town in Maine, then I was in Boston for two years Then I was so maybe it was like you should be but you know I mean it's like that you would be hey guys I gotta break into the episode really quickly to tell you how funny Emma Wilman is our guest today She's one of the best comedians in New York City She's actually someone I saw noticed

When I first moved to New York, she was doing this like, I hadn't seen this in LA, this style of like lesbian on stage that like wasn't leaning into it at all. She like, casually, I saw her in a bit like casually brushed by like, my girlfriend did this without any sort of like, and I was like, oh man in New York, it was just like, they're not leaning on this at all.

They're all being real comics. It was pretty invigorating and inspiring when I saw it. I was like, oh cool. And then I did a special all about Judaism, so I've learned nothing. She's hilarious and she's gonna be appearing at the following places, in Albany in April, and then in May, we got the Port Comedy Club

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Damn. All right, let's get back to the episode. Guys, subscribe wherever you're listening or watching. Please, I got to 120,000 subscribers. That's fucking huge, 120,000. That's may have it extreme. That's how long they said Moses lived to. I may have it extreme to 120,000, that's mea vis stream. That's how long they said Moses lived to. I'd mea vis stream to 120,000 though.

All right, let's get back to the episode. This is getting weird. Bennett. It's, I'm out, cause also if I had just disappeared, no one would, I had gotten taken, no one would have known. Yeah.

For two weeks, that's a big head start. Yeah, that's the thing they always say, like what if something happens to you? I'm like, then it'll have happened. Then it, mm. What do you's the thing they always say, like what if something happens to you? I'm like, then it'll have happened. What do you think, a murder's gonna, your ability to contact me is gonna go back in time and stop making the murder not happen?

You're not gonna tell your mom, I'm gonna call. Yeah, someone will find out in a day. Right. True. It's nutty. Whenever I go, like what if something happens, like what do you mean? They say, what if there's an emergency?

I'm like, what emergency? You mean like, what if something happened to mom or dad? Right. And barring a transplant where I'm the only one with the blood type they need. Which even then, it's like, it's maybe better to be out of town because you don't want to be in that position

to actually have to give all your blood. Exactly, my liver. Kidney. It's my liver. Yeah, but barring that, it's like, you're talking about, I gotta mourn, but it's like, I'll do it when I get back. Right.

That's a good, that's a very free way to live because the other way is being operating on fear where you're not doing things because what if worst case scenario? What if worst case scenario? Well then don't send your daughter to college. Right. I mean obviously don't send your daughter to college. Because if you do the what if game it's like well what if she just stays in her room the whole time and is a fucking weirdo. That's not what I was thinking at all. Or whatever it is. Yeah I was thinking. That's if you don't send her to college. Oh, right, yeah. Yeah, and then she just stays in.

Which is a way worse case scenario. Right. What was the food like there? What did they give you? They had, I remember a traditional, like Holland breakfast was, and so my entire representation of this was based off of the two people

that were like the local representatives. Both Asian, but from Holland. And it was like, it was like white bread with a chocolate spread and some sprinkles, which I remember having a little bit of a hard time. Yeah, that. What is that? What the fuck?

Wait, it's sprinkles, chocolate sprinkles like Nutella? I had a hard time getting my brain around that because it just seemed like such a sweet treat to like jumpstart. I'm not a big sweets in the morning. I get depressed. I mean, I'm prone to depression. I get depressed less than the past couple of years

than ever. What the fuck is that? I was like schmorgensporgen or something. And eggs and yogurt and the cheeses. And I remember the cheeses were really good. But this was a big thing and they had a name for those sprinkles. It looks pretty good.

I remember not being into it at the time. Dutch breakfast, I've never heard of this. I've been to Amsterdam a few times. I've never heard of this. It doesn't seem like a nutritious breakfast, but people were- Topped with the Dutch struep. People were very healthy where we were

because they were doing a lot of manual labor. On de beeched? On de be the beach? That sounds familiar. This one? It sounds sounds plausible. Oh no just means that means breakfast. Oh I didn't know um. Wow that's cool. What's the Mexican word for beer? Cerveza. Cerveza I didn't know that was the name of the I didn't know that was the name for beer, I didn't know that was the name for beer. I thought it was a beer brand. And my girlfriend was brainstorming like, Mexican beers for some commercial that she was doing.

And afterwards I was like, how'd you forget? Cerveza, like that's the brand that's everywhere. And she was just like, it just means beer. Was it like this a lot? Yes, cold cuts. Cold cuts, we had jams. Could you imagine if that's like what you just, that was your, because it's this a lot? Yes, cold cuts. Cold cuts, free of jams. Could you imagine if that's like what you just, that was your breakfast,

because it's such a socially constructed thing of this is your breakfast food. Here's what you have for breakfast. The idea that it's like eggs, eggs and toast. It's like you go to Asia and it's like no. That's not what we do. It's fruit. But this is the time that I eat breakfast.

It's pretty healthy. The cheese was really good. And where we were, they were getting this stuff from the farm. Lot of dairy cows, right? Lot of dairy cows. Yeah, this looks like a fucking dank meal. You ever get the milk a cow?

No, I've sucked one off of it, I'm joking. Oh my, could you imagine? Sucking off a cow? I'd put one of the udders in my mouth and yeah, give a little. But, sucking off a cow. I'd do it. I'd put one of the udders in my mouth and yeah, give a little. But I didn't get to milk a cow, but there were some people that I chickened out. You were gonna?

They had cows on the farm. And in Maine, I remember going on some field trips where we had the opportunity, but I never. Damn. Didn't, I just pictured something. Yeah, I thought it would kick at me. I wouldn't. Yeah. I said I'm good. Yeah.

The juice isn't worth the squeeze on the uttering. I feel like it'd be one of those things where you're like, it's just nice to be like, yeah, I did that once. But you're getting no joy out of it. It's better than saying no, I never have. Totally, totally. I can picture it. I can picture it.

So what, did you just walk on these trails? I'm gonna go back to food later. We would go on the different trails that were done last year, overgrown from the winter? Or just new trails? They're pretty overgrown. They were old trails, they weren't new trails. But they would be pretty overgrown,

and I think it was from the winter, or if stuff had fallen, I think they were getting ready to open up the parks again. But we would do a trail for a couple days, because the whole program was two weeks, two or three weeks, and then we would move on. So then we get to see a bunch of the countryside

because of it. And it was all country. So my plan was, after that, to go to Amsterdam and backpack around. But I didn't. Why? Because the whole time I was out clearing the trails, doing all this stuff, I had a sickness brewing.

I got mono, but I didn't know I had mono. I just thought I was getting kinda tired. And then I went to Amsterdam for like, maybe five days with a girl and a guy that I met in the program, and we were like, oh, we'll all backpack together. But by the time we got to Amsterdam, I'm like sweaty, I'm feeling sick.

And we went, we did a couple things, but then I just was in the youth hostel, and then I was like, I gotta go home, something's wrong with me, mono. How'd you get mono? I was in college, and it was like my first girlfriend I ever had was in town, and I remember I was seeing someone else, and then I was really drunk

at this grocery store, and I remember making out on the floor of the grocery store. Ugh. It was disgusting. Of a Maine country, fuck, shall I just go? Not a Maine one, it was Boston, which makes it a little, not quite as bad as Maine. It was gross.

It was disgusting. But I remember doing that, I must have been so fucked up. It was like a 24 hour grocery store. I'm sorry. I don't mean to disappoint. They got on the floor just rolling around. Disgusting. It was so gross, but I remember doing that

and people were like, oh, you got mono in Amsterdam, were you partying? And I was like, I was not partying. I just got it from. I took it with you. I had it the whole time. So I didn't get to travel around. I did travel around Amsterdam a little bit,

but not a bunch. So the first two weeks of it were all just like, countryside and they would take us into like the little towns and stuff. but not a bunch. So the first two weeks of it were all just like countryside. And they would take us into like the little towns and stuff. Like I remember going to some grocery stores, which was so cool because these were not like tourist spots. So there was like no translation. You really get to see how people were living.

And that was beautiful. I didn't really take many pictures either. Like we were talking about before, I didn't have an iPhone then. I had a little like burner phone. That was beautiful. I didn't really take many pictures either. We were talking about before, I didn't have an iPhone then. I had a little burner phone, that was it. I think I kept a journal, I think. Was it like, what was the air? It was just clean air?

So clean. Oh my God. So clean. And I remember there was this guy that was a local, he must have worked at the park. And I can picture him, he was like a very like, when you Google people from the Netherlands, he looked like, that's like what would pop up.

Like he was cast very like on the nose. Short little guy, blonde hair, blue eyes. Had this little truck and he would wear like a green park clearing. And they had no qualms about just giving us machetes and stuff. It's nuts that in other countries, machetes, they don't even consider it a weapon.

No, here you go. It's just a farm tool. Right, knock yourself out. Yeah. And it felt really good, because we would do that. So you're getting like manual labor all day. And then we would eat the food. I don't even remember what the lunches were.

We maybe went to one or two restaurants. I do wish that I had gotten to explore Amsterdam more though. Just Amsterdam, the city of Amsterdam. I would have loved to look, cause I remember like I went to the Van Gogh Museum, went to- The Van Gogh Museum I've been to, that's cool. I went to a museum last time I was there.

It was like a pop-up, I saw a, there was one Yayo Kusama piece and her stuff's always like pretty interesting. I don't know who that is. She does a lot of these infinity rooms. Cool. With mirrors and stuff. That's awesome.

So we had one in Phoenix, me and I think, or I don't know, me and Adrienne went, and it's just like, you look like you're on the 80th story of an under construction building. That's awesome. And you're like, whoa. And then she has these giant, half the size of that wall pieces,

and they're all very whatever. Anyway, it's always interesting. It's great that you make such a point to go out and experience life stuff. Yeah, well also I was on a long European trip so it was like, it was warm out. And then it was like something, it wasn't even a major museum.

I had been to Van Gogh with Paul Morrissey a while before. The Van Gogh was, I remember the girl, it was a girl named Katrina, that was who I did most of the traveling with. And we would, she kind of laid out, she was like, I wanna check out these things. I think at this point I was pretty sick, I just didn't realize it.

Because by the time I left Amsterdam, I remember going through the Amsterdam airport, sweating, feeling such shit. And I remember going through customs and they think they thought I was just hungover because I was like, whoa. It's a party town too. Right, and then I got on the flight,

got back to Boston and then I got, have you had mono? I don't think I have. It's a kissing disease, right? It's a kissing disease. It's kissing, so everyone's like, oh, partying. No, grocery store. That's funny though, because I, whenever,

when you're telling me about this place, Udmurd, Udmurdum, Udmurdum. Udmurdum, or however it's pronounced, yeah. And I'm like, why have I only stayed in Amsterdam? I would have loved to have gone up there. And it wasn't even like, you know, I remember taking the train so you get out of Amsterdam. It starts getting, you know,

it's kind of like their version of suburb. And then you start getting into the farm. Like, I don't know if you're into bike riding at all, but it's flat where we were too. So it's like you could ride your bike so far and not be very hard, which I appreciate. Should you go to the. Mm-mm, never heard of it.

Sorry, different country. Oh. Yeah, they all bike there. I was mixing up my place. Oh yeah, but I would be interested and I would like to do that. Because you just felt, I feel like you've got a superpower.

It's so easy, the one speed or maybe the two speed bikes. You don't need anything more. Zip it. And they have, in Denmark, they have slow lane, fast lane. Really? Yeah, when you're ready to turn, you go into the slow turn lane and when you fuck it up, or when you start and you wobble until you get going,

they're like, what the fuck are you doing? Because it's traffic. Right. There's 80 bikes. Right, they're getting road rage. And you're like, get out of here. Bike road rage. Stupid fucking tourists.

Jesus. I wish they, sometimes I wish they had a walking lane for texting, but that. They should. I think it'd be nice, but. I heard a congressman said, or somebody, some local New Yorker said it was gonna make it illegal to walk and text,

and I was like, go for it. You should give out tickets. I would get a ticket, and it's worth it. You think so? You bump it into people, they're slower, you walk behind them, they're like, why are you walking so slow? Oh, you're texting.

Right. Just stop, or they walk right into you. I do this now, especially with Asians, when I see Asians coming out and I see them texting coming out, I just go, like that. And they go, oh, sorry. Why specifically Asians?

The last one I saw was Asian. Cause they're on there all the time. I don't know. Maybe it's racism. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just wanna clap at them. Hey, hey. At least black women are on their fucking speakerphone.

They still got their wits about them. Yeah, Mary, I'm up. They're still up. They have it up. They're not in it. I almost bumped into someone when we were both texting and I was like, if we dropped our phone, like we deserved, we should have canceled each other out.

You see people almost going to the roads also? Almost going into a sewer thing. Ugh, ugh. Oh, that's how the Jew tunnels were started. You deserve it. If you fall into that, then you deserve it. I went to, we went to Helen Keller's house. Helen Keller was there?

At, in Amsterdam. Yeah. We did that. And then we did a couple other really touristy things, but at that point, that was feeling like shit. But old demurdom, not feeling like shit. I'm so grateful I went. This is such beautiful country.

It was so beautiful. And you saw the ocean there? Saw the ocean. Wow. We went out on a boat at one point, because I remember I was like, I gotta check in with my mom. And I remember sitting on this little boat and calling my mom, like I just got reception,

and she picked up, and I remember being tripped out by, because it's just so surreal, especially if you're in a rural place like this, that's so different from where the person you're calling is. I remember being just tripped out by technology. My voice is traveling through the earth to get to her in Boston. And then I'm just like, where we're sitting is where I was

was just such a different place. Damn. Were we high again? Must have been. That's so great, too, that you can get high out there. Everyone forgets what it's like to get high for the first fucking time. And have it be a good experience.

I didn't have any, cause me riding my bike after I smoked a bunch of pot through the cows, like getting home to the farm, that could have been bad. If I got too high and it stopped at any point, took it. But I didn't, like it was like all good, because I've had bad, like with edibles or something where I've just been too high. Yeah. Hi everybody.

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It was really nice. It wasn't like sw Was it warm out? It was really nice. It wasn't like sweltering hot, but it was really nice. Buggy? Yeah. Buggy. Kind of buggy. Cause I remember we went camping one time and it was pretty buggy.

And I do remember going to the beach, but I don't remember what the beaches there were like. I actually haven't looked at pictures of it since I've been there. And that was, it's so, I feel like I can just tell that it's a little, cause the trees are different from the woods in Maine. Yeah.

Oh, you can tell that stuff. This, cause in Maine, the trees, they just don't have trees that look quite like that. It was really, it was beautiful too. Cause I think a lot of times I'll like, like I didn't, because it happened quicker, it allowed me to go with the flow like, I didn't, because it happened quicker, it allowed me to go with the flow better, I think. Right.

There's something to be said for not having options. Just like, here's what we're doing right now. It's like, okay, we're doing it. That sounds so fucking nice, it's so nature-y. And also it's. I don't know, I'm so, especially living in New York, it's like you get none of it. Totally, you're like, that is so, it's literally,

yeah, it's nature. You spend a whole day in Central Park and you're like, that buys me get none of it. Totally, you're like, that is so, it's literally, yeah, it's nature. You spend a whole day in like Central Park and you're like, that buys me three days of sanity. And then I'm right back to fucking, I gotta kill somebody. Right, it's something about, and it also makes time, so like an hour of recharging there, that is, that's like so hard to get when you're in an area

where there's just shit going on all the time. Odomirdum. Odomirdum. What would you, what would you tell anybody who's going there, like this is what you should go see if you remember or go do or like bring with you or like advice? This is a great question. And I wish I had remembered more what I did

while I was there, but what I would say, if I could go back, I would have spent more time exploring the little towns around it because we would go in and I think I was like I knew that the group leaders were gonna like tell us what to do and I wish that I had been more independent because I like traveling and by myself too. I wish I'd been more independent with like checking out just things on my own. On like a bike? I wish I'd done more biking because the biking was

beautiful and I wish I just like explored the local villages more too. I'd say if you're gonna go to Amsterdam, I wasn't there long enough to check things out. I was, was I sober when I was there? No, I wasn't, I was smoking. But if I could go back to Amsterdam, I wish, if I could go back to Amsterdam, even though I got out of Amsterdam,

I would have liked to have gotten out of Amsterdam more. Like I would like to go and explore like all around Amsterdam. I'm gonna go back actually. Never been to Rotterdam, I heard that's really nice too. And there's a tour stop there for sure. I would be interested in doing that. You can do it. Also, Amsterdam comedy is booming.

Really? House shows are packed. Huh, in English? Yeah, all over Europe, but especially more than anywhere in Amsterdam. I'm gonna go to Amsterdam in March for my girlfriend's birthday. We're gonna go for a couple days. Oh yeah, there's, is it Junglers?

I'd love to see what local comics in Amsterdam are like too. They're not, I mean nowhere's as good as us. Right? Yeah, you heard right London. You know, my mom made a comment about it too. She was like, she saw a show, she came to a showcase show in the city and she'd seen me at another like location.

And she was like, the host and the other people, that other one, they wouldn't even get in the door at this club in New York. She's right. And I was surprised that she clocked that. She was like, wow. That's what I was telling her. When Shane moved, I was like, you better be careful, dude.

And I'm like, he's like, well, I can't know how to like write a joke. I'm like, yeah better be careful, dude. And I'm like, he's like, well, I can't know how to write a joke. I'm like, yeah, but you're not following. You're not following, and he's like, who? I'm like, Jeff R. Curry, Caitlin Palufo, fucking Maddie. What about if? It's a constant killers. It is a lot.

You gotta go on after. I know, and then I'll get tripped up at it sometimes where I'll be like. You're like, who the fuck's this guy? Right, you roll into a club and you're kinda like, okay, I'm just doing like one spot and I'm just gonna go home and then you see someone just like boom, boom, boom

and you're like fuck. You've never even seen them before. Yeah, where did this person come? And it's not like we didn't see them because they're like famous online, we didn't see them. They're like no, they've been doing pushups in the gutter. Yeah, they've been to danger fields or some shit.

And then they just popped up and you're like, shit I gotta like go over what I was gonna do. Were there any, what was the gay scene, anything there? So I was in the closet while I was there. what I was gonna do. Was the gay scene anything there? So I was in the closet while I was there. You were in the closet. But this is what happened. Wait, wait, wait, back in the closet? Back in the closet.

Just why? So I don't know. So I get to college, come out of the closet. That's when I had that first girlfriend that I made out with in the grocery store, even though I think I was with someone else at the time. Just to reiterate, disgusting. Disgusting, why would I have done drinking, drugging.

Kissing, standing maybe. Ugh, just knocking over Cheerios. So I was out and then, and I think I was even seeing someone at the time or something, but when I got there, I remember as I was on the bus, I hadn't cut my hair yet, so I could've, I passed it just like sporty.

And I remember being on the bus going into the country and I think I just, I hadn't, I'd only been out for like two years and you know, it just didn't come up. And then I remember this girl Katrina, who I was about to travel with, she was like, I wonder if there's any gay people on this trip. And I would just, I just went, I don't know. And that was it, and it was not mentioned at all.

And I remember her saying too, we'd spent a couple days together. She was like, she said something about wondering if this guy was gay, and she was like, I don't know, she's like, I've never spent much time with a gay person, I don't know if we'd have anything in common, and I was like, I don't know. I just pop-itated it.

So I was, then when I got to Amsterdam. I don't know if you would. Yeah, I don't know, I'm like, I heard they're fucking brutal. I don't know why, I was like throwinga-dated it. Yeah. So I was, then when I got to Amsterdam. I don't know if you would. I was, yeah, I don't know. I'm like, I heard they're fucking brutal. I don't know why I was like throwing them under the bus. Must be fun to go right back in the closet for a second. That is a privilege. Like, cause like people have, I've,

I hear that like come up when someone, you know, when like a press group's are like trying to like go at each other where they're like, well, you can always pretend to, I mean, and I, I'm like, I hear you on that. Cause I did utilize it at that time. But I know it was sweet, right? It was.

Like, you can just go right back in if I want. Because it felt easier. It just felt like I didn't want to have those conversations, even though I was in Holland. And they're pretty forward with that, right? So, they don't care. But I was way out in the country, so I guess I felt a little,

maybe that's what my spidey senses were kicking in. Like, hey, what if this isn't okay, and you're out in the middle of this farm, and no one is expecting to hear from you for two weeks while you're out with a machete in the woods? Tied up. Tied up. Like, what was that move with that black guy

and the chick from Adam's family? I didn't see it, but it doesn't sound like something I'd wanna be in. Who's the chick from Adam's family? Christina Ricci, we all tied up. She was, he tied her up because she was too much of a whore. Shit. And it was, it was, who's the black actor?

He's in those credit card commercials. Not Denzel. Not Denzel, older one. Pshh, I don't know. He ties her up because she's too much of a- Chains her up. Damn. And he's like, you gotta get the devil out of you.

He's crazy. No, but I think it was like she needed it. And then what happened? I didn't see it. I just saw the preview. And then did he kill her? No, no. I think he got the devil out of her.

Damn. Set her free back on her path. I mean, if she was into it. I don't think she was. I think he kidnapped her and took the devil out of her. I don't know, I didn't see the movie. But I was afraid of something like that. So I was like, some part of me.

So the point is, anyway. Some part of me was like, I'm gonna not mention it. And so I didn't, but I know Holland. So when I was in Amsterdam, I didn't go check out anything like that. I maybe would have been, I would have been into it. I don't know, are you good at meeting, if you went to Amsterdam, let's say you didn't have mono,

could you go to like out to a social bar and like meet somebody? I don't think so. Yeah. I can meet men. Right. I can't meet a woman. Really?

No way. I can meet a man if they're drunk and I get into a conversation, because there's no pressure there. That's true. Because then, right, then it'd be a whole thing. Yeah, it's just like a dude talking about, you're from America, okay, yeah, I'm not hitting on, yeah.

Right, you don't have to boom, boom, boom, or like pretend something, I explain why you're staying at a youth hostel or whatever, true. And if you meet a woman, even if it's just for, there's still always that, should we? It's like hanging over your head. I don't know. You even had that approach when you were like in college? No, in college I was a virgin.

Really? Yeah. How into college? No, right, in college it was easier to meet people. In college it was way easier to meet people. How into college were you virgining? One, two, three, three years. Maybe my second sophomore year, 23.

But I took two years off before, so it would have been 21. Did people, did your friends know? Yeah, I was just waiting for the right chick. Waiting for my one first girlfriend to come around. Oh yeah. Yeah, she cried when I stuck it in. Was she a virgin too?

Mm-hmm. Anyway though, so I'm saying, even though I was there this last time, and I was like, I'll just go to a bar, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that.

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No, you can't. Eh, nah, cause I go, like if you said, what are you doing, would you mind asking me what I do? Yeah, sure. Oh my God, that's such a cool, hey, what do you do? I'm independent contractor. Oh, what does that mean? I just do, like it's such a cool. Hey, what do you do? I'm independent contractor. Oh, what does that mean? I just do, like, it's just on contracts.

Okay. See, I don't fuck, but I feel like I'd be, so what I'll say is if they go, what do you do? I go, I usually, I'll be like, I work at night. And then they're like, what? So here's what I found. When I was traveling like four, four months or something in Asia, it was, they'd ask you what you do,

but really what they're saying is, can we start a conversation? Right. They don't really care what you do. Yes. So they go, so like where are you from? New York. What are you doing in New York?

I walk around, get high, hang out with friends a lot. Sometimes I see movies. And they're like, oh okay, what are you, and they'd have to really push like, no, what do you do for money? I'm like, you know, I don't know, thanks for that. Like, what are you, they'd have to really push. But they're just trying to start a conversation. You just have to really push, like, what do you do for money? I'm like, you know, I don't know, thanks for that. They have to really push, but they're just trying to start a conversation.

You just have to give someone something that then they can respond to. So yeah, I love going to movies. Oh, nice, exactly. Well, I used to, in college, I was an undertaker for a while. No way, it was so fun. And then get it onto them.

It's okay, we're done. Yes, I'll usually keep it to, now if someone asks, I will just try usually keep it to, now if someone asks, I will just try to keep it moving. But if I was meeting someone especially out of that element, I'd say, oh I work in New York, maybe I would say, I've said in the past that I work with comedians. I work with comedians, booking them at colleges.

But that also doesn't go well, because people are like, you should meet my cousin. I'm like, fuck. But. It's a wildly interesting job to be a comedian. It's weird. Yeah. This Romanian guy told me, and after he'm like, fuck. But. It's a wildly interesting job to be a comedian. It's weird. Yeah. This Romanian guy told me, and after he was like,

he was like, Romanian comics are better than American. American comic codes are Romanian. I'm like, I'm going, like, in a week. And he's like, no, you'll fail. Because you go, oh, oh, I fuck your mom, I fuck your mom. You say that in Romania? No, I fuck your mom. I fuck your mom, how about that?

And you're like, well, I don't, that's not my delivery. I'm not going to say I'm going to I fuck your mom. You say that in Romania, no, I fuck your mom. I fuck your mom, how about that? And you're like, well, that's not my delivery. I'm not gonna say I'm gonna fuck up his mom. It's like, we're the pro, we're, Rome, from us. It's actually not that. We fuck your mom, and you're like, okay, fine, you're funnier, that's the ultimate gauge. That's the ultimate, you win, you win. I would be so curious to see a Romanian comedian.

They have one, I worked with one. There's just one guy out there? Dragos. He's the best one there. He lives in Berlin now. It's so interesting to see how, because I remember going to Australia and the setups were different because they do much more storytelling, I found. Oh yeah.

And I was like, oh, this is, but the audience will stay with them through a whole story. Yeah, I wish I would have seen more of the ones that stayed in Romania. Dragosh was like a Berlin comic from Romania. He'll do it there, but like, yeah, what their vibe would have been. Yeah, in Australia, they do stay for like a long story.

Like, what's the culture of how they... In England, it's very theatrical. Never seen any comedy. It's very of the theater. But not for, I'd never have been there for comedy. But I do wish, if I was gonna go back, I'm gonna go back to Amsterdam, and it's gonna be a pretty short trip,

but if I was gonna go out to the countryside, I also feel like this is a good, it's a good solo trip, it also could be a good romantic trip, but there's other beautiful countryside you can probably get to quicker too. Because this is a hike, you're flying into Amsterdam, then you're going like two hours out.

So you've gotta be like, but it is absolutely beautiful. So you could say a little Airbnb or something very remote, but if you want the countryside effect, there are other countrysides that you could go to. Yeah, but this one seems cool. Yeah, there's tons, I mean there's tons of places. People ask me all the time, like, should I go to this, is it wrong?

Like, there's no right place. If you're going to get lost, whatever's calling you is the right place. Speaking of, where else is on your list of places to go? Okay, so we're going to, I'm going to Amsterdam again, coming up, and then for me, Alone or with the, With Lexi.

We're gonna go for her birthday because Amsterdam's her favorite place. And I've never been, Amsterdam proper. Amsterdam proper. I'll tell you this museum, I saw a video piece in there that it's so fucking, it's gonna favorite place. And I've never been. Amsterdam proper. Amsterdam proper. I'll tell you this museum, I saw a video piece in there that it's so fucking, it's gonna sound gay. Say it.

It moved me so hard. It was completely covered in, it was a, it's three artists, a poet, a musician, and a video guy, person, and they brought together this thing so it's this big video piece. The whole thing was covered in mirrors so I could look corner wise and see the screen, but also see myself.

And it was just this long, melodic thing behind it and weird graphics. And it was all about putting down your phone. There was a quote in there that I was like, and yes, I was high, but not in a level like obliterated and it said like, I gotta find it actually. Was it something that like just you would see? Just I walked in, it was to see that Yaya Kasama thing

and then found some other stuff. Huh, but like could other people be seeing it while you were in there? Yeah, but I was all alone. That's cool. Yeah. That's cool. Find it. Okay, so where else I wanna go with, I was telling Ari. That's cool. Yeah. That's cool. Find it.

Okay, so where else I wanna go with, I was telling Ari before we started recording, I really wanna go to, I wanna go to Thailand because I wanna learn how to do some type of ultimate fighting. And I also, like when I'm- I bet Hannibal will give you tips. I'd be so curious.

I'd be a little afraid because I did just get all my teeth back. All your teeth back? Remember the last time I was here, I was missing a tooth? Yeah, what is that? I got it fixed, but I was missing a tooth because I was doing get all my teeth back. Remember the last time I was here I was missing a tooth? Yeah, what is that? I got it fixed, but I was missing a tooth because I was doing a boxing class, punched myself in the face.

So I'd be a little afraid of what I would do in Thailand at a fighting school. But I would love to do that. I would really like to go, I would like to go to, I'd be very interested to go to South Africa. I've been around a few of the Bahamian Islands. I've been to this one island, Cat Island, like eight times.

Never heard of it. Tiny. Wow, Cat Island? Cat Island, my dad used to go every Christmas. My dad lives in really rural Maine and then on his Christmas breaks, he's a math teacher, he would go to Cat Island. So I've been there a bunch, but I would be curious

to explore other Bahamian Islands, just because I got to spend time in that one, so I'm just, I just am interested what the other cultures are like. That'd be fun. I think it'd be interesting. Greece, I've never been to Greece. I just went.

Good experience. Ruled. I've never been somewhere that I was like, I regret, I mean, even like, sometimes like this coming weekend I'm gonna go to Des Moines, fine, whatever. Yeah like, like sometimes like this coming weekend, I'm going to go to Des Moines. Fine. Whatever. Yeah. Looking forward to it. But like last weekend I was in Omaha and my mom was like, you're in Omaha again. And I, cause I've been there probably three or four times. I like Omaha because I like the, I like the comedy club there. So now I'm basing things off of the clubs.

It's cool. It's, it's got a good vibe. This underrated one of the underrated cities, the downtown is full of like art scenes and hipsters and cool people. I'm basing things off of the clubs. Omaha's cool. It's got a good vibe. It does have a good vibe. It's one of the underrated cities. The downtown is full of art scenes and hipsters and cool people. Where you're just, you know where it's like that now too? I was in Rochester and I went to some side part of Rochester because there was a conference in town,

so all the hotels are booked, so I was off to the side in Rochester. Hipsters, poets, all that stuff. Yeah, I was shocked. Yeah, I could have shocked. Shocked. Interesting. But I like going to little pockets. I haven't, that's all to say,

I don't think I've been someplace where I'm like, I wish I hadn't gone to that place. Except maybe Syracuse. Now I like Syracuse. It's just a mall. I love Saratoga Springs, it's so beautiful, but you know what, that's not even fair. I went to Syracuse in the middle, you know what?

I take it back. I went there in the middle of winter and it was like, it was a rough time to be doing shows there. Yeah. It was some tough shows, but I don't know Syracuse like that. So I take it back.

Okay. Do you have any tips for travel in general? Okay, so my tips for travel would be don't let yourself get too fucked up on the flight. Try to be, because I hate- Who would? Now, I used to get really like, I would not stay hydrated. I would just eat shit food, pack no stacks. Don't get too fucked up on the flight.

Throw that up. That's a good tip. No one else says that. Because you do, you get the alcohol for free a lot. And then you get fucked, and then you come in in a bad way. And then you get jacked up on the caffeine. There's so many trips that I've been on

where I feel like once I get there, I'm almost detoxing from what I was doing before I was on vacation. And that is fine. That's a good way to, if you're just like doing it to, you wanna get reset, but if you wanna go into some place where like,

I wanna be like more clear headed, try not to be so unhealthy getting up to it. Cause I used to always just like roll into places and then I'd just be, wanna sleep the whole time I was there. That is, that's, I'm going sober for a bit cause I'm gonna go to a carnival. Nice. In Trinidad.

You're just going to get so fucked up while you're there though. So fucked up. And there's no way around that. There's no way around that. So it's like, let's get that liver a little bit healthy before. And also once you get there, then you can get acclimated. Then you can go. You don't want to be getting there and being like, I just want to be groggy and

sleep the whole time. Yeah. I would say my number, I'm trying to think what my number one travel tip would be. I mean- That's a good one I've never heard before. Don't get fucked up on the way. I also like, I'll wear like compression socks on flights. I don't know if that actually does anything, but like keeps your circulation going. Don't drink the coffee on the airplane. I always just like, I love it. I, I embarrassed to say I love coffee airplane. I've duzzled so much.

I used to get so jacked up on caffeine on the flights. Yeah. And then I would just feel like shit when I land. Do you have a number one travel tip? Not number one, I ask everybody for these. I like travel light. That. Build up, not down.

Yes. You don't wanna take too much. And honestly, if you're not like a backpacker kid on a gap year, you can just buy something if you need it. And the idea that you won't is like, have it is like, just get it. It's a simple truth, but that is so true. Cause you don't wanna be checking your bag

or like schlepping around with stuff. Also say this one thing I've noticed, like every single place that you go, then this I've learned more as I've gotten older, but every single place that you go, everybody is totally in their own world doing their own thing. So just because you're on vacation

doesn't mean they're on vacation. Oh, that's a good point. So like when you, I'll see that you go, everybody is totally in their own world doing their own things. So just because you're on vacation doesn't mean they're on vacation. So like when you, I'll see that with like more so maybe if I go on a trip with my mom, like when we get there, she'll be like looking around at everybody, like trying to engage and just read the room on that because they may be just trying to do their job. Right. Um, also somebody told me this when I went to, when I was leaving Asia, so nervous, and a girl I was dating, excuse me, a woman I was dating, I'm trying, I'm trying my best,

Kate Willett fucking got through to me. Oh really? She didn't say anything, I just heard her say something and I was like, oh yeah, why do, whatever, it's not a big deal. But anyway, woman I was dating, she's like, hey if you get nervous, just any activity you do, you will be surrounded by people

who are also interested in that activity. So you already have something in common. If you're going to an elephant sanctuary, it's all people interested in that. And travelers doing that. That's exactly why it's like when people wanna go to a comedy show alone, I'm like, you're not gonna be alone.

There's gonna be a bunch of other people there, hopefully, or at least I'll be there. I can guarantee that. I'll be there. That is a good way to look at it. Also like, yeah, I would love to go to a freaking elephant sanctuary. Oh, you should.

The non-humane kind are definitely the ones to go to. They play, first of all, they play harmonica for you, which is great. They make a little painting for you. You ride them. They don't seem to notice at all. What's the last place you'd want to go international? Like the last, would you go to Russia?

Never interested. I've never been interested either? Never had any interest. Not because of anything. Right, right, right. Yeah. I would actually be kind of interested to go to Russia someday.

Yeah. It's where they make peptides. I don't know what that means. Peptides are like an amino acid, but you can inject it and the Russian, I don't know, I've been doing a lot of redditing on it, but it's like a lot of the peptides that you buy online come through Russia and I would't know. I've been doing a lot of redditing on it, but it's like a lot there. A lot of the peptides that you buy in line come through Russia and I would be interested. It's like a, like there's one I would call BPC one five seven that

like helps your gut heal. Yeah. CJC one two nine five. They make them there. It helps your muscles regrowth, like growth hormones, but it's like they're not allowed in the States. Well, I've heard of peptides. How are they not here? Some schools of thought are that they You're such a health freak some schools of thought are healthy, but am I healthy about it? I don't know cuz like I'll like order by matter I Ordered NAD and I was like injecting it. What is that?

It's like a vitamin that's supposed to be good for people with ADHD, but you have to inject it My girlfriend was like, what are you doing? She's like you are injecting something you bought on with ADHD, but you have to inject it. My girlfriend was like, what are you doing? She's like, you are injecting something you bought on the internet, but I had to do a telehealth thing. I mean, you gotta, oh really? Yeah, but it could have been, who knows it could have been. I talked to some guy for like two minutes

and he was like, do you know what you're doing? And I was like, yes. You did not? I mean, I figured it out, but like I could have been, so I'm healthy, but I'm a little bit reckless. But I love, I've been really interested in biohacking. So I've been on all these deep dives. So you wanna go Russia for that?

I would be curious to. But I can't think of a place, like the last place I would wanna go. Probably my number one place now that I would like to go to, my number one place that I'd like to go right now for a really, the number one, number one actually, I wanna try the hot springs in New Zealand.

Or is it in Iceland? I'm stupid. Iceland has hot springs. Where are the best hot springs? I can't tell you that. Iceland has a whole hot spring culture. I really wanna do that. And they have, even in town, they go to like local,

not hot springs, but they take the volcanic water and they run it so it's like different level baths. That's what I would like to do. Yeah, there's only like one sauna or steam room and the rest are all. I would love to try that. And they have full plungers, they have one with a water slide that comes down, but then also, my buddy,

for another episode, my buddy took me to one like way out in the north, and he's like, I remember this one when I was a kid, and he was like, there's a calf, there's a sheep pasture here, it's through that one. I'm like, there's 20 of them, he's like, no, I remember the one, and then you go pass through that over a fence and then you just shimmy down a rope

and we were just in this crevice. You remembered it from like a while back and then he brought you back to it? We were in this crevice for like an hour and a half alone. Just the two of us in this hot water. That's awesome. Went down, I don't know how far this little scar, where is it, came from there.

Do we still have it? This scar came from there on one of the rocks. Oh wow. Yeah. But like- You just smash your hand? No, I just like, they're jagged. It just like cut it. I was like, ow.

Fuck. Yeah. Yeah, you should go to Iceland. Little travel tip, let's wrap this up. Please, I love a travel tip. Wow Air, and I think Icelandic Air, gives free layovers as long as you want. So- So if you're going, because it goes up to go to like

Denmark and Amsterdam, it goes up and down, you don't go like straight. If you can do a layover there, you can do a two hour layover, or you can say, hey, for free, make it a six day layover. Or five, or four, or three, for no extra cost. That's awesome, that's a great travel tip. That's a really good travel tip.

I'm gonna be clocking good travel trips because now my whole, like, it's all about, like, getting through the airport, like, as fast as you can, most efficiently, but that's not necessarily for traveling for pleasure. That's not, that's for something else. That's like if you're just trying to get in to be a show. Just go.

Yeah. I'm never more organized than when I'm going through the airport trying to, like, just get through it. Just get through, yeah. Do you have any regrets for this trip? I regret that I wish I had done a little bit more research. I wish, as always with everything, I'm like I wish I had appreciated it more.

And I wish, in some ways it's nice that I wasn't documenting it, but I didn't really take any photos. I could have brought a little. But you got lost in it. I got lost in it, that's true. So photos are a weird thing, because now you look back, like I wish I had photos, but at the time you would've been out of it saying,

especially, it wasn't the Instagram era, I guess. No, not at all. But like, then you're living for people that aren't even around you. Right. I should take a picture for a bunch of strangers who aren't even here with me. And also maybe I would've done something totally different

because I would've been like. More photographable. I would've been doing the fricking, I would've probably still gone to Jamaica, taking a bunch of pictures that probably would've been like. Photographable. I would have been doing the fricking, I would have probably still gone to Jamaica, taking a bunch of pictures that probably would have been very problematic now. Oh, oh yeah. I mean just like dancing on the beach

or whatever I would have been doing. But I didn't take any pictures. Maybe I wish I tried a little bit more of the local food, and that's something I could get better at easily, because I'm not great about doing that. Eating the food. Because I'm down to eat whatever, but I like to just go to the same places because I know what to expect. So I would be better at easily, because I'm not great about doing that. Eating the food. Because I'm down to eat whatever, but I like to just go to the same places

because I know what to expect. So I would be down to try, because I'll pretty much try whatever. More local food, more presents. Because also you'll have something. My brother and I were gonna go skiing in Zermatt, in Switzerland, but there was no snow. It was last April.

That's scary. Yeah, and so we're like, hey, let's pivot and go to Italy instead. He likes the Zermatt, so we're like, let's go somewhere else. And so we did and so we're like, hey, let's pivot and go to Italy instead. He likes dessert, so we're like, let's go somewhere else. And so we did, and they're like, hey, in this one town, I forget what town it is, there's this one local pasta dish made with just char and pasta and whatever, and it's like, it's not even that great,

but you should have it as long as you're here. I'm like, yeah, I'll never get this again. Right. So, yeah. A real one-off experience. Yeah, those are fun. That is fun, because that's also like, yeah, I'll never get this again. Right. So, yeah. A real one-off experience. Yeah, those are fun. That is fun, because that's also like,

that's like what people are trying to get up to when they talk about going off the beaten path. You're actually like going off where you're like, okay, I'm fine in this thing. And there's even something more of a novelty to it that it isn't the quote unquote best thing. Because then it'd probably be swamped. But you're just going, you know what I mean?

Yeah, for every like like Machu Picchu, there's another one that's not well known. That's almost as good. Right, or maybe it's just, hey! But that's why it's empty. Yeah, me and List and Sarah and Vecchione went to Zion once after the Vegas thing, the Vegas cellar.

We were like, we got a cabin or whatever. This guy was like, I was like, yeah, it's a little expensive. He's like, who are you? I'm like, this is a bunch of comms from New York, trying to get along. He goes, oh, I built it for this. I'll give you a discount, you gotta come.

Love that. Fucking bongos everywhere to play. But the major ones in Zion, the hikes and stuff, were all like, okay, they're pretty packed. But he goes, right from this backyard, you can go to an A minus that no one's at. And just walk off. And it's still gonna blow your mind.

Yeah, exactly. Cause it's not something you've seen before. Yeah, and it's just us, we owned it. That's awesome. There's something so beautiful about getting out in Vegas too, getting off the strip. Cause you don't even have to go that far to see those mountains.

It's so. Oh yeah, red rocks or whatever. It's so pretty, cause that's so different. Anything too that's so different from what you grew up around, that like blows my mind. Just that landscape being so different blows my mind. You ever been to Joshua Tree? I have, and I was there for a weekend and I loved it.

I loved the desert. It's magic. Because that's so different. Like even Holland, the countryside there, I was kind of used to the countryside from Maine. So it was astounding and beautiful, but I wasn't tripped out on how different it was. Like I get when I go to the desert.

Yeah, or Sedona, a place like that. Never been to Sedona, I don't think. Just big buttes and stuff. Anyway, all right. Alaska? Have you been to Alaska? Yeah. I would like to do that. Went to the longest day of the year there. If I were ever to do a cruise,

I would want to do one in Alaska. Because I feel like that'd be a nice way to see the glaciers. Rogan and I went fishing there once. Nice. Yeah, they're like, you can go to a packed place and keep the fish, or you can go to a catch and release place that really nobody's at.

And we're like, we can't get fish where we're at. Let's go to the one where no one's at. It was fucking rad. Whose idea was that to go there? Rogan's. No, we did a show, and then he goes, let's stay for a few days. Right.

Yeah, I probably pushed him too. I was like, hey, let's not hurry back. Yeah. When are we gonna be in here again? And you have enough money to fuckin' spend on shit. Let's stay. You know, this is way before Spotify. Right.

Let's stay and do some shit. They have good reindeer dogs there. Ooh. Yeah, in terms of local stuff. It's just delicious. Thank God it was good, because a bad reindeer dog would be fucking disgusting. Yeah, EM's reindeer dogs was the best one.

They had two downtown. One with a line around the block, one with two people, and one time I was like, I'm not in the line, I'm like, oh, this is way worse. EM, I think his name was, eventually, I mean, it was so good. Tastes like a hot dog? Tastes like a hot dog?

Tastes like a hot dog, but like juicier, more flavorful. And they're not in danger or anything. Eventually got, someone was like, hey, he hit on me, he shouldn't have hit on me, killed himself. No more EMs. Fuck! Yeah. Does someone still make the dogs?

I don't know. I think it's done. Yeah, sad, but you make your own path. Make your own path. Right. I'd love to try reindeer dog. Emma, people can find you online at. Yep, at I am Emma Willman.

And thank you for, I haven't. I am? I am Emma Willman. Emma Willman on Instagram, TikTok. And then all my tour dates are up at I am EmmaWillman.com. I bought EmmaWillman.com when I was drunk, forgot the login, so now I own I Am Emma Willman. Oh, damn, you gotta find that.

Gotta find that. But I haven't thought about this trip for years. Aren't these fun? Aren't these fun? It's so, because even just pulling those pictures up, it's like, I mean, it was a long time ago at this point, so I haven't thought about what I ate there, and that was one of the few things I've done

that was very much local immersion. Because normally I'm going and I'm on a trip or I'm staying at- Big city, you already have a comedian setting it up or whatever. That was, that sounded so cool. Yeah, these are so fun. I'm just getting off on seeing people.

I'm also getting interviewed by people about my trips sometimes for this. And it's like as I'm talking, it's like, oh yeah. Or I'll see a picture I'm like yeah yeah yeah. That fucking thing was there. It just brings you back to shit you just haven't thought of. Totally, it's just like floating around our little brains. It makes you wanna like go.

It does. My mom used to always say to me, traveling is so important and it's so easy to get caught up. I mean I know it's such a privilege to be able to do it and find the time and blah blah blah. But it's so easy to get caught up in the rat race. Yeah, and then two years pass. And then one day, 10 years has passed.

What's that Pink Floyd lyric? 1995. Is that it? Oh, no. It's a Pink Floyd lyric, and then one day, 10 years has passed. Oh, I don't know. Yeah.

That quote I couldn't find, but it was something along the lines of, there are moments of beauty, and if you're quiet and still, you can see them. And it was pretty much saying, like, put your phone down, don't do anything, don't be returning emails, don't just, like, be aware and just like, wow, look at that kid helping another kid up, or,

you know, just like, there's things out there that you just miss. And the universal, like, I think, like will provide some experiences that you can't even conjure up in your brain. So don't ever think that you can expect it, that you've seen it before, future hop too much where you're like, I know what's gonna happen.

Yeah, right, right, right. Cause like, every time I think that then something does not happen. Damn, I'm gonna go to the north now. Well thank you for having me. Yeah, you're welcome. Emma, I'm gonna go to the North now. Well, thank you for having me. Yeah, you're welcome. Emma, yeah, appreciate it. Guys, until next week, check out the Patreon

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