You Be Trippin' - The Democratic Republic Of The Congo w/ Mike Corey | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

Follow Mike on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/fearlessandfar/?hl=en SPONSORS: -Protect your online privacy TODAY by visiting https://ExpressVPN.com/TRIPPIN -Get $80 off your first mont...h with promo code SPACE80 at http://talkspace.com/ Check out Mike’s awesome travel show Fearless and Far on YouTube On this episode of YBT, Mike Corey gets accused of being a spy and is attacked by an aggressive Green Mamba in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. On the show, he and Ari talk about the Heart of Darkness, voodoo wrestling, and tribes not allowing gays. They also discuss pygmies, eating monkey meat, wiping with your hands, having to escape on a motorbike, and doing drugs to cast spells. Other topics include: Anthony Bourdain, boiled crocodiles, King Leopold, an old lady grabbing his dick, and the guy who invented BDSM. O zali motema na ngai! You Be Trippin' Ep. 67 https://www.instagram.com/arishaffir https://www.instagram.com/youbetrippinpod https://store.ymhstudios.com Chapters 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:37 - Intro Mike, Covid, & Homosexuality 00:06:20 - Being a Traveler 00:08:45 - Heart of Darkness Bar, Congo, Stephen King Book, & BDSM Statue 00:14:18 - Guides & Tribes 00:20:16 - Congo's Troubles & Fancy Dressers 00:25:26 - Voodoo Wrestling 00:34:20 - Bad Runways & Getting Accused of Being a Spy by the Governor 00:44:40 - Ran Out of Food, Pygmies, & Mayans 00:50:40 - Attacked by Green Mamba 00:55:43 - Weird Food & Trade 01:00:56 - Filming & Bourdain 01:05:33 - Bathrooms & Ancient Civilizations 01:08:12 - Heart of Darkness & Nice People 01:11:19 - The Sickest He's Been 01:13:59 - Food He'd Try Again & Wiping with Your Hands 01:17:10 - Not Looking Like a Foreigner 01:19:44 - Advice for the Congo & Guides 01:27:48 - Where Next & Travel Tips 01:32:20 - Drugs & Spells Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:37 Slippery slope, man. Slippery slope. I know. Well, first of all, I know I'll get right back into smoking if I do that. And then they're like, it's different. I'm like, it's different like it's similar It's very similar. Yeah, it's like those kava people But like it's not alcohol. Mike has enough of the same shit that I got a drink. I just moved to Maui
Starting point is 00:00:54 Yeah, my girlfriend. I didn't know what cavum cava and create them were we went to a cava bar They've got the big gourds, right? We all shared one got fucked up on that stuff You're not supposed to fuck you up, but it does yeah Yeah But it does and then you're like well as long as I'm fucked up But I don't know can you I don't think you're supposed to drive on it, but can you drive on it? I'm just so tired. Here's what I found at least in America I don't know how it is in Canada, but if you're white you can pretty much do whatever you want
Starting point is 00:01:29 You could just say I'm sorry, bro. I'm tired and they're like well drive home safe show. Yeah. We're going to talk about travel today. It's UB Trippin'. Yeah. Welcome to UB Trippin' everybody. It's a travel podcast. Every episode we go to another place in the globe. It's the only podcast in the world that stands proudly with Justin Trudeau and his future endeavors as late night talk show hosts on CBC. Today, my guess is Mike Corey. Yeah, real fucking get out there and go guy. Yeah, man. I am Canadian.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Thank you very much. Yeah. The recent news was interesting for us all. I got the hell out of there doing COVID though, man. We did. Yeah, no way. What do you mean no way? Like, uh, it was just, it was really interesting because I think in the beginning it was, it was, no one really knew what was up. And then we all kind of,
Starting point is 00:02:33 some of us knew what was up and I went over to Eastern Europe, like Romania, Ukraine, places like that, that during the day there was, there was a, um, Oh, I can, I can tell you a story that I haven't really told before too. Anyway, but over there, there was, there was a, oh I can tell you a story that I haven't really told before too. Anyway, but over there there was, during the day there was the facade of safety, then at night you just got drunk and drank beer. But I got that virus from a tribe. Really?
Starting point is 00:02:56 If you want me to tell that story. Yeah, sure. We're talking about where? Oh, it's in Tanzania. But that wasn't the theme of today's conversation. We have a different. Yeah. You can mention it though. Unless you want to get, yeah, sure. Mention double it up when you come back. Tanzania. Tanzania is right here. And where's Tasmania?
Starting point is 00:03:13 Tasmania is over here. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we're going to Congo today. Yeah. Right there. Okay. Borderlines close. Yeah. Cross this river. It does. Okay. Wait, how across this river it does Okay, wait, how'd you get it from a tribe out there Well, everyone was afraid that people would like a traveler would go give give kovat. Can we say that word now? Sort of Corona 19. I don't know man. I'm a youtuber. So I always get worried about getting demonetized. Oh, I Don't I don't think it matters anymore. Look, Tanzania. Yeah. That was my dad.
Starting point is 00:03:49 That was your dad? Yeah, he climbed Mount Kilimanjaro. Nice man. In 83. That's adventurous dad. Not really though. No? It was just like, didn't tell anybody,
Starting point is 00:03:58 he just left and climbed Mount Kilimanjaro. But that's the thing, he's not that guy. Back then that was the final frontier, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean this is six years ago. It was like what? Oh, six years ago, right on. Yeah. Hold on, man.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Wait, so yeah, so you stayed with one and then they got you one? Well, yeah, so I was traveling and was still making content and got really interested in visiting indigenous tribes. It was a bit of a hard time to do that considering a lot of the borders were closed. But Tanzania never really acknowledged the existence
Starting point is 00:04:33 of the virus at all. The virus meaning homosexuals. Well, that too, because I was there with my guide and you're not allowed to share the same room with another man there. They get really suspicious. Hold on, hold on. If they don't really condone homosexuality,
Starting point is 00:04:51 like you ever see footage from the 50s here and brothers are kissing each other on the mouth? Yeah. Where they're like, no, we're not gay, we're brothers. Yeah. We're not even thinking that way. Yeah. I would think they would do that too.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Sure, you could share a room, you're not doing anything. Have you ever seen that hilarious clip? I think it was in Uganda where they bring in, I think a trans man or trans woman and he's like, why are you gay? Why are you gay? Why are you gay? It's so great.
Starting point is 00:05:16 But there was always problems. He's legitimately concerned. Yeah, no. I don't get it. It's like, exactly. Cause over there, there's just, it doesn't, I'm sure it exists, but it's just so stuck in a closet and traveling with another man to shave, to save costs. You can't stay in the same room with white,
Starting point is 00:05:33 with white guys. They understand, but I couldn't stay in the same room as my, my local guy. They wouldn't let it happen. And it was just cause of gay or was it cause like class shit? No, the, the gayness that we could be doing all kinds of stuff. I drove cross country to get to LA when I started after college. And I met my roommate who went to school with me.
Starting point is 00:05:52 But he had moved his family to Florida. So we both drove to Tennessee and then just drove together. Yeah. And my mom was right after. Remember Matthew Shepard? No. This guy in Wyoming, he got like strung up, gay guy like strung up.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Oh yeah, yeah. Tied to a fence and killed. Later they found out it was just a drug deal gone wrong and not gay at all. One of the attackers was also gay. So it was like this weird thing. But anyway, at the time it was like, people were worried about it.
Starting point is 00:06:19 My mom was like, hey, be careful out there. Cause like, and I was like, mom, we're not gay though. So like two guys are allowed to hang out. I'm surprised it's not like that more in a place where it's like, will they burn you if you're gay? What do they do? No, I think you go to jail. Can I just say, it is very refreshing to have
Starting point is 00:06:38 a question that's not, how did you start traveling? We're right into the reeds, man. I couldn't expect any less, honestly. Yeah, yeah, good point. Good point. I mean, this is all travel so that it's like, when I go on comedy podcasts, I don't go, how'd you get started in comedy? Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:52 You do a lot of those where you're like the traveler. Yeah, well, I've been doing it for 15 years, man. I was one of the first in the first group of travel YouTubers ever, like 15 years ago, yeah. Yeah, I always... I have... That's why I have a backup mic. Hey. Okay. You've been doing it 15 years. That's pretty fucking tits. No, man. Back in the day where people were just
Starting point is 00:07:25 figuring out YouTube, I've been around for a long time. Yep. We were talking about this before we started, let's get into Congo in a second, but how it's changing and has changed and I'll talk to like, I know somebody 16 years older than me and he was like, when he, so way before me, years wise too, he was like, I went backpacking and there was like, when he, so way before me, like years wise too, like he was like,
Starting point is 00:07:46 I went backpacking and there was no anything. It was just word of mouth on where to stay. There was like a route, you know. Or a lonely planet book. A lonely planet book. Yeah, that's what you had, the Bible. But it wouldn't cover like a new hostel. Or which one's a party hostel,
Starting point is 00:08:02 which one's a sleep hostel and like, and like, yeah, how do you even know which city to go? It seemed so cool. But that was the magic, man. That was the magic of the world where, I mean, the Lonely Planet, I'm not sure what the turnaround was, if there was a dishing every year or what,
Starting point is 00:08:15 but if there was a new place, it was all the backpacker word of mouth, right? And even if there wasn't one every year, no one got it. Right. You like borrowed your friend's Tokyo. Or was in the hostel. Yeah, right, right. You gave it to your friends. You're right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And so that was like five, six, seven, 10 years old. And you're like, Oh, that place doesn't exist. You probably showed up like, Oh, what's a seven. 11. I used to, I was telling you, I used to go to the hostels and get the map they give you. And then they'd circle, okay, here we are. And then there's the bar. And then there's this good noodle restaurant and they'd give it to you. And I put those on the wall wall and there was one of my most prized possessions all of these paper maps from Paris from Bangkok from Tokyo
Starting point is 00:08:52 all these from places that would be a cool way to decorate a place yeah or put like a pin in all the countries you talk about dude I thought of that when I was building this and even like I it's like I had a heady ideas but like I was like I'll take a little one of the many Polaroids and then stick your picture to. But then I'm like, this will just be like, you won't be able to see it anymore. Yeah. Maybe pin, but yeah. I mean, Thailand boom. All covered all Southeast Asia. Yeah. Um, all right, let's go to Congo. The hard go. Yeah. What? That's in the heart of darkness.
Starting point is 00:09:25 That's it, right? Have you been to the Heart of Darkness bar in Phnom Penh, Cambodia? Yes. Isn't that a seedy hell hole? That is where I saw, I found some live music. I was looking for live music and I was just like, one of those like what Rolf says about like psychogeography.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Just get around somehow. So I was like, I'm gonna find music of some kind. Went to one bar, they're like, no, it's only on Mondays. I'm like, fuck, just walk around town. But you know, when you're on the way, you're like, I'll stop for some street food. It's the journey is the thing. And then went there and they were playing like 90s cover bands.
Starting point is 00:09:57 And it was just all dudes with smiles on their faces, white haired dudes with be on their faces. White haired dudes with beaming, showing their friends their cameras, and then just boys and girls. Not quite, but like, let's say 16 to 24. That's exactly my experience. There was no live music, but it was the seediest club,
Starting point is 00:10:22 and there was old men and children and they wasn't their daddy. Well maybe it was their daddy but in a different way. And someone threw a brick through the window that night. Yeah. Down on the bottom floor. And there it is. Is it still open? Is the question. 3.5 stars on TripAdvisor. The chicks weren't young enough. It closes soon. Oh yeah well. The chicks weren't young enough. It closes soon. Oh yeah, well. The chicks weren't young enough exactly. Yeah, I want single digits.
Starting point is 00:10:49 It's terrible. There it is, man. Yeah. What a name for a bar though. Heart of Darkness. And it really is that. Yeah. Yeah, it's that music here sometimes.
Starting point is 00:11:03 And it was just these smiling dudes. Why'd you bring that up? Oh, because of, because the real heart of darkness is, is the DRC, the democratic Republic of Congo, the green heart of Africa. It really is right. It's right down in the fucking middle of the whole thing. If you look at a map, there's a few big green patches. I have a biology degree, so I'm a big animal fan and been to the Amazon it's fantastic and the the next place the big undiscovered jungle was there. Look how green it is look at all this. Go to go to satellite view. Satellite
Starting point is 00:11:34 down the layers kind of like bottom middle. Other side. Right there it is. Boom. Look at the look at that deep emerald green. Wow. Yeah, I went right to the middle, man. Look at that red text. That means do not go there, weary traveler. This? Yeah. And then go, so go up like 10 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:11:58 There's a small little pin that says Bowende. Up, up, up, up, that's another direction. To the left, left, left, left, left, left, left, left, more, more, more, up, up, up, up. That's another direction. To the left, left, left, left, left, left, left, left. More, more, more, up, up, up, Buendé. I went there, the middle of the green. So this story has- Where did you start getting into this kind of shit? Going to random places.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Well, like, okay. There's a Stephen King book about, a short story about some chick who comes into a bar, forget what it is, maybe anyone can remember it, but she comes into a bar, she's like got wild hair, this guy's serving and he's like, she's hot, and he's like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm getting to so-and-so someplace,
Starting point is 00:12:35 and he goes, and I'm just in a rush, can I get a coffee to go? And she's like, okay. And then he's like, what are you trying, and she's like, I'm trying to get there before 9 p.m. And he goes, ooh, that's tight, she goes, I know some shortcuts. Then she comes back a month later, hair's more wild, and she do? I'm trying to get that before 9 p.m. And he goes, ooh, that's tight. She goes, I know some shortcuts. Then she comes back a month later, hair's more wild.
Starting point is 00:12:48 She goes, I'm going to so-and-so. He goes, what's your time? And she goes, it's four hours. No, it's five and a half hours. She goes, I know shortcuts. And then eventually, he's like, what's the deal? And she goes, I just try to find shortcuts all over the world.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And then eventually I start going to places that are like, but like shit happens, there's like rednecks fucking each other, stuff like that. And then eventually I start going to places that are like, but like shit happens, there's like rednecks fucking each other, stuff like that. And then like eventually I start leaving and getting there like with less time than it should be, like only two hours for a four hour trip. And then eventually I get there before I leave. It's a Stephen King book.
Starting point is 00:13:14 You know, but there's like monsters and shit. These shortcuts, you try to find deeper and deeper shortcuts and then the guy starts going with her. And then once you start with this travel idea where it's like, oh Thailand was so cool, it's been discovered. Oh, where's the next spot? Oh, where's the next spot? And then certain people go to like, I want to see the Freddie Mercury statue in, in Montreux, Switzerland. And other people are like,
Starting point is 00:13:34 I want to go where maybe no body with that complexion has been. And that seems like that's where you are. Yeah. Uh, speaking of the next level for a statue, if you love statues, you go to Lviv in Ukraine and there's the statue of the guy who invented BDSM, forget his name, but he's standing in front of his trademark BDSM hotel and he's a statue and he's got a trench coat and his hands are in his trench coat.
Starting point is 00:13:58 You can put your hand in the pocket of the statue and you can feel his dick. Wow, what? In Lviv, L-V-I-V. Amazing place in Ukraine. And yeah, yeah, yeah, L-V-I-V. I don't know what his name is. That's the dude. And so there it is, there it is. And you can feel his dick in his pants. Oh my God. Oh my God, that's so great. Look how scholarly he is.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yeah. What's that other hand coming out? I don't know what that hand's doing. Someone else reaching around. Invented BDSM. Yeah. I'm like this chicken black getting it. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Yeah, so, but that's it, dude. You get it. It's like you always want the deeper, more authentic experience. And then once. It's like you always want the deeper, more authentic experience. And then once you go deep and you're on that bleeding edge of travel and you learn more through misadventures, you kind of want to find the next one.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Yeah. Hi, guys. I'm going to break in really quickly to let you know a little bit about my guest, Mr. Mike Corey, Fearless Afar. First of all, subscribe wherever you're watching or listening. Please, just hit right now. Go hit the Subscribe button so you get notified when new episodes come out.
Starting point is 00:15:06 If you're new to this podcast, which you might be, if you're still left over from the Tim Dillon episode two weeks ago, or if you're here, as a fan of Mike Corey's Fearless and Far, click on the subscribe button. Every week, we just go to a different place. It's a sometimes super adventurous traveler, sometimes less adventurous. All of them are pretty wondrous about the world and it's fun to see their trips to their eyes. It's not a travel guide
Starting point is 00:15:30 I'm not telling you where to go what to do Nothing this episode. I'm telling you to do this guy's fucking Mike's nuts But it is his experience and that's what we're getting. It's just like tell me about your trip Let's imagine your friend just got back. You're like, tell me all about your trip. Don't say, which restaurant should I go to if I wanna go? Just tell me about your trip and you'll glean some info that way.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Mike Corey has a YouTube, has a website, and has a Instagram all fearless and far. That's his fuckin' thing. He also is taking people on trips into the woods and jungles of Canada, Costa Rica, and Mexico. He has this thing called tribal rights, which are crazy. Toronto, July 25th, three days, two nights in the woods of Canada, which are great out there,
Starting point is 00:16:16 by the way, bring bug spray. Costa Rica, five days, four nights at the end of October. A retreat tucked on the side of a volcano deep in the jungles of Costa Rica. This is the guy to take you. If you ever want to do something like this, this is the guy to take you. And it's not like fucking Segura's guy
Starting point is 00:16:34 who's a Spartan who's done fucking questionable shit. This is gonna be sex free. Tribal rights of Mexico, six days, five nights adventure. Retreat hidden deep in the jungles of the Yucatan. God, he's taking on Tmezcals. He's taking you to hear the animals and do shit like that. Tribal breathwork workshop, tribal fire walking.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Guys, it seems cool. Fearlessandfar.com slash trips. Myself, I've only got a couple dates. I'm in Charlestown, West Virginia at the Hollywood Casino July 12th get tickets right now at Ari Shafir comm and I maybe almost sold out Anchorage, Alaska No second show will be out of there. I'm just doing a show For fun because I haven't been to Anchorage forever July. I'm sorry June 18th I think it's like 85% sold out. So if you want to take it get it. If not, that's fine too At the end of the episode i'm going to be reading more postcards that I get from travelers around the world
Starting point is 00:17:31 Who send me stuff. They've all been sending me this money and i'm also going to go into this Uh, we're sending someone around the world as a bonus i'll get into it at the end of the episode So stay tuned for that. Uh, and that's it. Let's get back to it you guys This trip is too crazy to delay any longer subscribe again and let's get back this is the craziest one Mike or you got to come back here guys furthest and far reach out to him tell him he should come back pressure let him know how much fun you had also please in the comments let me know anyone who you think would be great anyone who's taking a big trip so much as a Patrick Beverly has been all over the world as
Starting point is 00:18:05 basketball player I didn't know that thank you for telling me he's now gonna be coming on let's get back to it John Ronson was another suggestion we already did an episode it was great anyway let's get back to the episode and the world if you if you have a good guide anywhere the world's not that dangerous how do you feel about guides? What's your pros and cons? When I do the expeditions for my YouTube channel, Fearless and Far, I find private guides, but I have to find someone who gets it, because
Starting point is 00:18:37 at the end of the day, if I want to visit, let's say, the Maasai in Kenya and Tanzania, the red robes, spears, they jump and kill lions, right? You can find a guide and you can be like, I wanna go visit the Maasai, they'll take you to a place, it's like, they'll take off their blue jeans, hide their cell phone, put on the robe, do like a little human zoo experience, and then they'll bug you to spend 50 bucks on trinkets
Starting point is 00:18:59 and they'll take you away. That's not what I want. It's trying to find the real shit, and that takes the right kind of guide. Yeah, they have, you said you were skiing, but they have these epic instructors, epic fast instructors, and some guys are like, oh I don't need tips, but I do need you to get me
Starting point is 00:19:17 in there 30 minutes early and I'll just go skiing with you. How about that? And so those guys are like, okay, I know the runs that nobody knows, I'll take you there. That's exactly what you need. Not someone who's necessarily gonna tailor your experience, but someone who knows how to get to the places no one else goes, who can connect the dots,
Starting point is 00:19:33 who knows the people, who know the people. How do you find people like that? Well, to find, to be the first person who finds them, it takes a lot of work. Wait, you're going to try to find places where they've like, never really been? Well, the, do the story I'm going to tell today.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Okay, okay. Sorry, I get sidetracked so much. Yeah. Well, we can start a lot of places, but basically I love animals. Like I said, love the jungle, love meeting tribes and how they live traditionally. And I think a lot of the things that tribes do that we can learn a lot from, like life there isn't perfect but they they sing they
Starting point is 00:20:08 dance this is a lot of commonalities you see between tribes like I probably visited 25 different tribes around the world and like they all sing they all dance they all share food together a lot walk barefoot they all get fucked up somehow that's like one thing across all cultures they get fucked up every group of people from from in the cities to the most remote jungles of Congo, every culture of people has something to kind of like tune the antennas,
Starting point is 00:20:33 whether it be fucking Ayahuasca or Rapé or even in Muslim countries, it's just like cigarettes and coffee, you know, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's always something, always something. Yeah, I mean here too for sure, it know? Boom, boom, boom, boom. It's always something, always something. Yeah. Yeah, I mean here too for sure, it's bar hopping. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like let's get loose.
Starting point is 00:20:50 For sure, for sure. And so for Congo, it was one of the final frontiers. Again, the jungle drew me in, but as I started to dive into the country, it's called the Heart of Darkness, man, because it has had so much trouble over the years. Like strife? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:21:08 So it's the second biggest country in Africa, only after Algeria. And they call it the richest, but the poorest country in Africa. So it has incredible forests, as you can see, natural resources, all sorts of things. So green right there. Yeah, it really is special.
Starting point is 00:21:22 That is not what you think of Africa. No, it's the greenest part of Africa. It's the biggest there. Yeah, it really is special. That is not what you think of Africa. No, it's the greenest part of Africa. It's the biggest jungle in Africa. And so I knew we'd be able to find some authentic things there. So we started off in Kinshasa, and there's also two Congos, right? There's the DRC, the Democratic Republic of Congo,
Starting point is 00:21:38 and then there's the other Congo, which is to the left, that's it right there. What, are they split off? They split off, I don't exactly know how, but where everything went really wrong was that when Europeans were divvying up Africa, like in the 1800s, Belgium didn't have very much, and there was some commission, I forget the name,
Starting point is 00:21:55 but they gave Belgium this big chunk in the middle. But not just Belgium, this dude named King Leopold II. Heard of him? Yeah, so this dude named King Leopold II. Heard of him. Yeah, so this dude took it on and basically created a giant slave farm to be able to mostly ship rubber, but a lot of things, but mostly rubber around the world and made it like a slave empire. And this dude, if you can imagine,
Starting point is 00:22:19 there's about a population of 20 million people there at the time, he killed 10 million people, 10 million Congolese people for not meeting rubber quotas. And the first thing he'd do, so if you didn't meet your rubber quota, he cut off your hands. And then you're definitely not going to meet them. Exactly. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:38 And then he just killed them outright for not making the quota. Killed 10 million people, bro. So that country, that that's why it gets the name heart of darkness because there's been a lot of terrible dark shit that's happened there. Just with a dark continent and it really is the heart of it. The very heart of it yeah. And so the jungle drew me in first and as I started pawing around for interesting stories we went to Kinshasa
Starting point is 00:22:57 the capital which is more to the to the west of the country and came across all sorts of cool things. Like for example, there's a group of people, they're called sappers and it's the society of elegant people and ambience makers. What? It's these dudes who live in a real city. Yeah. Yeah. Sort of sort of that's the, that's the nicest part right there. It's the majority is slums. And there's this group of people,
Starting point is 00:23:27 if you put in SAP, S-A-P-E-U-R, yeah, and then put Congo. There's also videos of all this on my channel, by the way. Oh really? Yeah. So like pictures of any of those? The SAP, no, the only videos. So these dudes, they live in absolute poverty.
Starting point is 00:23:44 They have no money, but they dress like- dress like this outfit. They dress all the way. They got like sequins. Yeah. Look at that guy. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, he looks like the most successful, like Delta blues musician. Yeah. And they were the most eccentric. Wow. So there's one guy that we went with, his name was Ekeko and he wore an orange sequined suit. And he was one of the most famous seppers in... What do they do?
Starting point is 00:24:11 They're basically, it's like a culture, but it's based around how looking good makes changes. So the society of elegant people and ambience makers. Elegant people and ambience makers. Yeah, and so in French it's like le sap or sap. I mean this is what Cam Newton's going for. Those guys. This is the outfit he's going for.
Starting point is 00:24:31 They're even not that dressed up compared to some of the dudes. Type in Ikeko and you can probably find the guy I'm talking about, E-K, E-K-E-K-O. And he's called the human, human monument because he'll just freeze and you go touch him. Come on, a kick. Oh, there he is.
Starting point is 00:24:50 That's my photo right there. Like that orange one. This one? Yeah. Yeah. Your photo. That's my photo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Oh, that's hilarious. That's the, that's my boy right there. The human, the human monument. So because he'll freeze and you touch him and he comes back to life. So I hung out with these guys. Uh, I got dressed up as well and basically they just walk around town and stop traffic. Like that guy, see the, with the yellow car?
Starting point is 00:25:12 That's me. That's me. That's you? That's me. That's me. Are you trying to dress up like him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell yes.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Yeah, so even, you can't see it so well with the resolution but I've got like leopard print shoes on and shit. Yeah, so yeah, that's us back in the day. Damn. That's like two years ago maybe, January, 2022. Fearless and far. If you guys wanna follow, probably just see tons of pictures here.
Starting point is 00:25:37 So they just go out and they make ambiance, which also means stopping traffic. So they literally walk in the middle of the street and just stop and they do performances and half the people love them, half get so pissed off because the traffic's already terrible. And you're a bunch of guys like pretending to be a statue in the road
Starting point is 00:25:54 and they're like, come on bro, let's go, let's go. That's not the ambience I want. Another fun one, see that really dead eye looking guy in the middle? This one? No, down, click on that for a second. What? That's so another thing I found in Kinshasa.
Starting point is 00:26:08 That's voodoo wrestling. This is my, this is my video, uh, on YouTube. You're all come on. So funny. You take it. No one's really filmed this shit before. Right? So these guys, this is the, the, the priest from the voodoo
Starting point is 00:26:19 wrestling, uh, event we organized and voodoo wrestling is I think at some point the African people in Congo saw like Hulk Hogan and these kind of like bigger than life superhero wrestler dudes and they made their own version of that but they incorporated all kinds of like voodoo and rituals and so basically it's like WWE but WWW, there you go. WWE, but they cast spells on each other. No. Yeah, yeah. So she's bringing this guy back to life. He's controlling them.
Starting point is 00:26:51 That is like low level wrestling. Low level wrestling has more humor involved. And look at this. So at the end, she cut out the dude's intestines and ate them. So we organized this event and this is, this is one of the, the, the priests. If you go near the end, you can see them actually
Starting point is 00:27:06 casting spells on each other and shit. So picture you're in a ring, and you wave your fingers and you control their bodies. That's her eating the intestines of her, that's Shakira. Shakira was the current champion at the time. And she- I mean, yeah, a girl can overpower a boy if she shows up spells. Shakira the man eater, man. This is the time. And she... I mean, yeah, you can, a girl can overpower a boy if she knows how to spell.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Shakira the man eater, man. This is the end. But basically, it's a little bit like magic. So yeah, all right, so they really truly believe in it. This is her doing her finishing move, where she puts the thing over his face, she takes a machete, she plunges it into his stomach. And then pulls up. That's so funny, like and then pulling out something they put in there before.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Yeah. So basically it, but it was real intestine. So it's probably a bag of goat intestine. She tucked into his pants and then she, she cuts it out and eats it. This video is demonetized and I didn't even, it didn't even put the worst stuff in, but everyone's not real. I mean, it's real intestines and she actually eats the real intestines. And so it's like the, the finish him. Oh my God. And then after that,
Starting point is 00:28:13 so I was in the ring filming this. Look how many, look, they're so excited. Look at all the fans. Yeah. So I had front row seats. This man, I felt, this is all filmed by me and uh, but the thing was it was freaky because I'm like, all right, you know, I'm here for the show, but she, she was possessed. Like she was possessed by a demon. She would not listen to anybody. And no one could control her. So she did her little stunt here. And then she ran off into the crowd and chased people with a knife and they all ran away. And then my guy is like, we gotta go. We gotta go. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Let's go. Let's go. And. And we sprinted out of there. Oh, I mean is that raw intestines? I mean, I don't think she actually killed a man that day, but she's definitely eating raw intestines. Ugh, I mean yeah, I get it's goat intestine, but also ew. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:31:54 First and then he casts a spell like a magic umbrella spell puts the other guy unconscious Bag of shit blows up puts orange orange juice or grape juice on them. Uh, I actually saw a little over wrestling in Toronto with the pole comedy. It pulls the snake out of the, out of the day. Anyway, you get it. And there was one character who was a racist character. That was his character. Yeah. He was just super racist. And he was fighting a black guy and they were fighting for like super dominance of the race. And so he beat him and they started throwing grape soda all over him and chicken and
Starting point is 00:32:27 I was like, don't, like really hurt. It was like, don't do that. And he was like, I'm doing it. I love wrestling. It is fun. The lower level you go, the more fun it is. This is like the low, I don't call it the lowest level, but like we're using magic against each other.
Starting point is 00:32:42 You know what I mean? The crowd though. He's throwing money to the crowd. He pulled money out of, out of the, out of the bread or the umbrella and then out, he throws the money out to the crowd. And yeah, we organized that event, man. We set up the ring. They did a parade and therefore for three weeks.
Starting point is 00:32:57 That's it. And you got all that done in three weeks. Well, we got lost for a week in the middle of there. So the issue with, with going to these faraway places and trying to stay somewhat like pretty concise with the YouTube stuff is the, I mean, as you know, like the best experiences aren't the ones you can plan, but I can't just go for a month and not have a plan either, because it's like, I got to run a YouTube business a little bit, you know, I got, uh, so we had the first week and a half
Starting point is 00:33:24 in Kinshasa right there, and we had those two events lined up. So we had meeting the Saper, the Elegance Makers guys, the Voodoo Wrestling, and then it was to fly from Kinshasa to Bowende, the middle of the green, because my guide, uh, Obed was like, listen, Mike, I can take you there. I know you like visiting tribes.
Starting point is 00:33:42 And if we go a couple hours north of Bowende, I've heard through a friend of a friend of a friend that there's a tribe there where there's a big woman Matriarch and she's the the queen of the tribe and she lives in the jungle and she's got a bunch of little male Subordinates that are like covered the junk with one little leaf and she like commands them all around and I can see if we can Visit and so when we got to Congo He was talking on the phone and they had sent someone on a motorbike to go check it out. He went like a day up, a day back, and the tribe agreed to meet us. And so I'm like, oh my God, because they'd never had.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Because they might go, no. Yeah, they might go no, or they might get hostile, or it's like someone showing up to your door now. It's like, what do you mean, you can't come in now? You know how to get into any house? Me? Yeah, anyone. No. You just go, hey, I'm so bother you, but but like I grew up here. Would you mind if I go see my old room?
Starting point is 00:34:31 It's 95 probably wouldn't work there though So that was that was our lead No, I'm from there. I know I don't look like it, but I'm heavily albino. It doesn't affect the beard, but the rest is really albino. So that was our lead. And so we landed in this little town of Buwende on the tarmac. There's a video of this all too. On the tarmac, there's two crashed airplanes when we land and
Starting point is 00:35:06 We get in there and immediately what happens is we I? Can see that you can see the dirt tarmac right there That's where we landed. Yeah So we get half the city. Yeah, man. It's a tiny place. Can you see the crashed airplane on the map? the crashed airplane on the map? Oh, maybe. Maybe. Oh, there's, wow, it's a dirt, it's a real dirt. It's just dirt.
Starting point is 00:35:30 There was a crashed plane. Can you just drive from here onto the runway? Yeah, there was kids and cattle on the runway when we landed. They had to pass once to scare the cattle away and then they landed again. You can just walk up there. There's a path for that.
Starting point is 00:35:46 No, dude, no one goes there. No one goes there. Right. So you do a drive by to like, To scare the cattle and kids off the fucking runway. And then, That looks poor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:59 So they don't get foreign tourists there. They didn't even know what tourists were. So dude, when we landed, we were greeted by one of the governor's officials. And he's like, you have to come see the governor. And so normally what happens in countries like this, any kind of tribal place, you gotta go meet the elder, you gotta like kiss some babies, shake some hands.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Anyone coming in, they'll wanna know. Exactly, cause it's so isolated. And so his assistant comes and says, you have to come see the governor. So we're like, okay, great. We expected that. That's actually pretty cool. I mean, I'm actually coming to like wherever. And they're always like very, they're very happy to show off all their luxurious things they have. Often it's like Tupperware and all these things that we think is a bit silly, but for them,
Starting point is 00:36:47 like having nice Tupperware and like a can of Coca Cola is like a symbol of wealth. From just trade over the years. Yeah. Seeing if this plane is there. In the YouTube video, you can see the plane, but maybe this is taken before or after. So the governor's assistant comes, takes us to the governor.
Starting point is 00:37:05 We go into this big kind of palacy type place. And immediately, by the tone of the assistant, he's not stoked. And so we walk in this big house, and it's a big, big ass living room, super tacky, you know, decked out with all the weird little, he's got his like posters of like rock stars and he's got these big elegant cabinets and all these things. And he's sitting there on a big ass couch
Starting point is 00:37:34 watching television like full blast. And when we walk in, he doesn't even look at us. And I assumed it would be like at least a handshake or something. And, but you can just sense the vibe is not good. And so we walk in, we're like, hello, like bonjour, they speak French there. And he just points to another couch. And so me and my guide go sit down.
Starting point is 00:37:53 TV's still on full blast. And we start to speak. It's like, hello. And he goes, why did you come to my jungle? And we're like, oh, I'm sorry. And we were told to call him votre excellence, your excellence. So I'm like, hello, your excellence. I speak French. Yeah, mostly, and local languages. And he's like, so I'm like, hello, your excellence. My name is Mike. This is my Guido bed. And we're just here
Starting point is 00:38:21 to, you know, see the jungle and the people and I love the jungle. And he's like, nobody comes here to see, just see things, you are spies. And we're like, no, no, no, like I love biology. I love tribes. And he's like, What a dumb cover for a spy. I know, you have people in your country.
Starting point is 00:38:43 And I'm like, yeah. And he goes, well, the people here are not very different. People are not different. You are here to take my trees because there's so much illegal logging and, and he doesn't even understand tourism because no one's ever gone there to see things. So he, he had, why would you, why would you like, there's nothing to see there there but trees and jungle and tribes the last night while you speak French yeah from being in from being candle yeah and he dude he so he he didn't believe us yeah thought we were spies I I couldn't
Starting point is 00:39:20 film it of course but I told him like we're gonna make I pulled out my little GoPro and he's like, prove to me that does not take GPS because it does not take GPF, which is like because you'd GPS pin certain trees to cut down or like mine, cause there it's all about like it's exploited so heavily and every foreigner who's ever gone anywhere in the jungle is looking to cut down hardwoods or set up a mining operation. How do you prove the non-existence of something?
Starting point is 00:39:47 Exactly. And you can't, I can't, and he doesn't know what a fucking GoPro is. So I can't prove to him this isn't a GPS device. And honestly, it probably does even do GPS. I might. Yeah. It's like, I haven't looked for that feature, bro. I don't know. Maybe. And so how, how this little jungle trip started was him saying, like your spies, we don't believe you. And he told his, his guard, he's like, take them away. And he, he made us, he, what he said is we are not allowed to go in the jungle. He doesn't believe we're there just to see things.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Who goes to see things? That's ridiculous. We're spies. We're here to, to find mines or cut down trees. And we have to stay in the compound until the next flight. And there's only one flight a week. And so, and there's no negotiation at this point. And the TV was on the full blast the whole time.
Starting point is 00:40:34 He barely made any eye contact. He's like, I mean, I, I get it. If you don't even have an idea of like leisure to be like, I mean, I, maybe I'm wrong, but like to be like, Oh, let's just go like have fun and like explore, explore. He isn't like tourism is not really a thing for people who don't, who don't have an excessive wealth. Right. So. How did they get around? They think the river,
Starting point is 00:40:58 the river, and there's a few small motorbike trails. You can, you can see there. Yeah. So he told his, his guard to take us away and put us in this little compound. And we didn't know what to do because again, no negotiation. And there was no internet there, so I couldn't pull up my YouTube to prove that I make videos.
Starting point is 00:41:17 There was no way to prove anything. Also, like the cover story. It'd be a great cover story if I wanna cut down Harwoods. Perfect, honestly. Perfect honestly. Yeah. So we were stuck in this compound and the guy, the guard's there and he puts us in this little like room with some beds.
Starting point is 00:41:36 And as he's about to leave he's like, tomorrow morning, you go. You go. And he's like, I will not say a thing. And so he, who, who, who said you go? The, his, his guard is official because he knew he could, I don't know whether exactly what he knew, but he knew we weren't there to fucking cut down. His exes is in a mood. You're fine. Exactly. Man, he's going to disobey them. That's crazy. And so what a risk. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:42:04 I'd be like, Hey, he's a lunatic, but I'm not crossing him. Yeah, no, I wouldn't have crossed him either. He was a big scary dude. And again, in a place like that, you don't want to do any sketchy shit because he, you can just disappear. Like you're going to disappear and Oh, he got lost in the jungle. Right. Wow. Yeah. But what saved us is the, the border between his state or province, whatever it is. And the next one was only about an hour by motorbike.
Starting point is 00:42:26 And so the guards like get to local motorbike guys to get you across the border and he can't do anything to you and like leave at first light. Duke's a hazard. Yeah. Where it's like, once you get over that County line, once you're, once you're gone, you're gone. He can't, he can't come after you. And so we went to bed that night. If he doesn't like get them when you're like, you just left five minutes ago. But his official, his lead guard was on our side.
Starting point is 00:42:52 And so the next morning we had spoken through him to get two motorbikes. And we launched out of there, like bats out of hell, to get to the border before anyone noticed. And where this story gets interesting is that we didn't really know where we were going. You know what I mean? Like we just had to get out and we had, we knew there was small motorbike tracks to other villages and we knew there was some tribes there.
Starting point is 00:43:16 And instead of wasting a week in a, in a little like dank room, let's get to the border, go like kind of tribe hopping and figure out where we can, where we can end this. There was a fairly big city that had another airport that was like five or six days driving by motorbike. What's that city? I don't remember, but it was to the east.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Yeah, I don't remember the name of the city. If you zoom out. So we got on bikes and we took off to the East. Uh, but we were in such a rush. We didn't have time to really get any supplies. And so as we were going, you have money at this point. I had my, my local guide, right? So he, he had some local money and he could speak some local languages.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Okay. So we hit up a, a food stand really quick. It's not like there's like ATMs. No, no, there's not like, how do we even change Canadian dollars in these places? I don't even, I pay my guide in advance. You're like bank transfer if I can. And then he handles all finances because the second a foreigner pulls out money there,
Starting point is 00:44:17 cause this is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. You just become a target. So I always say, I have no money. He takes care of it. So it wasn't a, it wasn't Pombi. No, no. 15 minute drive, okay.
Starting point is 00:44:30 No, no, we went like, we went days. We went to the, the West, sorry, not East. Okay. And I don't. I couldn't tell scale. Fuck, I wish I remember the name of it. So right over the, maybe it's here. Somewhere over there, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Okay. So my guide, as he was, as we rushed out, he jumped in a food store quick, got three packs of spaghetti and like two cans of tuna for like a five day trip across the fucking Congo jungle and we took off, man. Wow. And there's a video for this too. But where the story gets kind of interesting and what I made the YouTube video about is, and this is all, this is all covered in the YouTube video as well.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Fearless and far. If you guys want to check out that's, that's what the channel is. Yeah. If you go to like the tab, the top tab there, the YouTube tab. Yeah. I think I saw it right there. We lost in Congo and trading a crocodile for a bed on the right hand side at the very bottom. This this is, this is the story.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Oh wow. And so eventually what happens is you can see, seeing that is that we ran out of food. the right hand side at the very bottom. This is the story. Oh wow. And so eventually what happens is you can see in that, is that we ran out of food, cause dude only packed like three packs of spaghetti and two cans of tuna for a five day fucking journey. Why would you go in this water? Because dude. That's so dumb.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Listen, let me finish the story. Okay. You're seeing like the climax right now. So we didn't have enough food. Yeah. Four guys, three packs of spaghetti, two cans of tuna for like five days. And so we ran out of food after like 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And the only thing that we could find is these little villages selling bushmeat. And so we go, one of the guys gets a crocodile. We buy the crocodile and then we continue on the journey, trying to find a place to sleep. And then because of the rains gets a crocodile. Yeah. We buy the crocodile and then we continue on the journey trying to find a place to sleep. And then because of the rains, the road flooded and my, my, the bikers like, Oh, we can, the bikes can get through the, the bikes can get through the river. No problem.
Starting point is 00:46:15 And the bike stalled stalled in the water and we were stuck in the fucking middle of the jungle. This is what the road was like the whole way. That's, that's my guy. And then sometimes it'll just be like watering. Like, what the road was like the whole way. Fuck. That was like teamwork. That's my guide there. And then sometimes it'll just be like, watering like, I don't know how deep it goes. Yeah, exactly. And the guides were like, like, oh no, the bike can go through the water no problem. And then we flooded both bikes in the middle of nowhere. And all we had was like our backpacks and a fucking crocodile. And so we roll up to one of these these pygmy villages and
Starting point is 00:46:42 like, they don't, like they don't there's no there's no like an advanced planning we show up and like what can we give them as a gift to be able to spend the night with them because we have nowhere else to go and we gave them the crocodile they traded the crocodile for a for a bed in the village and this is yeah telling you about the story. Yeah. Those are the, the, there we go. Yeah. So I'm gonna kind of summarize in the trip so far. And then I get into the details. That's crazy. So then they let you stay for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:14 And then you were able to get some food. So the next, in the next, they'd already eaten that, that night's the next morning. We made the crocodile for breakfast, but the problem was, how was it? It was good. I wanted to put it on a stick and roast it, but they're like, no, no, no, listen, white boy. Like they call me, like that's crazy. Is what like in Delhi is like white ghosts. Like ketchup on your eggs. White ghost. That's so great. Listen,
Starting point is 00:47:39 M M Delhi, how you cook, how you cook a crocodile, you white ghost, you have it for breakfast and you boil it. So they boiled it first and then they had some oil that they kind of roasted it in and then we were eating like gator tail like an apple the next morning. But the problem was still that we were in the middle of nowhere, right? And so what we had to do and the bikes were still busted
Starting point is 00:48:02 and flooded so what we had to do is we had to put the bikes in boats and we took the boats through the rivers for like a day to eventually get to the closest village. God damn. It doesn't even end there, and so we got to another village and found a different tribe of pygmies, and then went out for-
Starting point is 00:48:18 What are the pygmies? Little midgies? They're like, they're the smallest people in the world. So they're the people of the- How hot, what are we talking about? Fully grown mans, like, they're the smallest people in the world. So they're the people of the. How hot, what are we talking about? Fully grown mans like five foot. Five foot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Something like that. Yeah. Wow. Yeah and they live purely in the forest. And they're a forest people, the kids can climb fucking hundred foot trees. And they've always been in the forest. Yeah, well now the government's because people are taking
Starting point is 00:48:48 land and wanna cut shit down and the pygmies, it's like a borderline derogatory term for them, but it's still used like the Baca as a kind of pygmy. But they're being forced out of their jungle homes to live in compounds because then the government can organize them better, opposed to like a wild tribe living through the forest. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:05 Can't tax them. In Ecuador they had those, and probably other places too, the uncontactables. Yeah. Where they're just like, hey we've decided they don't want to be contact, there's shit there, but they're so deep in,
Starting point is 00:49:15 we just like lopped off a bunch of area and like we just don't bother them. Also they'll probably kill you if you go too close, so. Yeah, the pygmies are relatively friendly, but the governments still want them out of the forest. Yeah, so we're organizing them. They're organized. They're handling it.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Yeah. Do you know where else that's kind of like that? The Mayans in Mexico. There's still like a million Mayans living in the Yucatan. And the governments, because they're a wild people too. And now the governments are incentivizing them, hey, if you build a crop and register your crop, then we'll pay you money. And so they become in the system,
Starting point is 00:49:48 then eventually they're in the system, and they can tax them, and it becomes a whole thing. Wow, that's so funny when you go to the Yucatan and you go somewhere like that, or Guatemala, and they're like, what happened to the Mayans? And they're like, we're here. Yeah, it's us. We're just wearing t-shirts now, but we're here.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Exactly, yeah. We're here and we're short. There's millions, and some, and many still speak. Hello, and they're like, what? They all disappeared. Like, ah, hello. I drove you here. We don't have sharpened teeth and like flattened
Starting point is 00:50:10 forwards anymore, but. Do the pygmies, the ones who were there, this might be a super racist question, but it's just a question. Are they shaped differently besides the height? Like are their feet, are they like more geared towards, are they like hobbity feet? Whether it be the genetics or just a lifetime of not wearing shoes, their feet are more, they're more, they're more, they're more, they like more geared towards, are they like Hobbity feet? Whether it be the genetics or just a lifetime of not wearing shoes, their feet splay out like
Starting point is 00:50:31 almost flippers. And there's a good like thumb space between, between their toes. Wow. Not racist then. Not a racist question. Worked out. Wind. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Okay. Yeah. But it's cool to see a foot that's never been in a shoe. It's like a whole different kind of foot, right?
Starting point is 00:50:47 All day, like climbing all day, running through the forest and they say sideways and as they get up, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But even as children, like, um, I watched, I watched a dude, I got like an eight year old boy climb a vine all the way up into the canopy. That's like a hunt over a hundred feet. Just like no, no safety harness, nothing.
Starting point is 00:51:03 And the, they're really funny jokers. And so as he was coming down and climbing a tree, another boy took a machete and started cutting down the tree he was climbing. And they're like, no, no, no, no. Like that's a big joke. They're a really fun tribe. And they're always singing and playing.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And that evening we all like, the second Baca tribe we visited, we went hunting again. And we, dude, we got attacked by a green mamba. You familiar with mambas besides like Kobe Bryant, black mamba? So one of the most dangerous snakes in the world. So there's lots of dangerous snakes. And these snakes do not get on helicopters? No.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Okay. What do you mean, helicopters? To fly over the, to beat traffic in the LA area and then smash into a rock and die and kill your daughter. Oh, I didn't get that. over to beat traffic in the LA area and then smash into a rock and die and kill your daughter. Oh, I did get there. You got there. You got there. I got you.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Seven other people that no one bothered learning their names because they weren't celebrities. I got you, Dan. Yeah. These are the mambas. So I think why that was like the black mamba thing for Kobe, but like mambas are the most aggressive snake. Like a rattlesnake, you get too close, this snake will rear up and they're like, they
Starting point is 00:52:09 can raise their body a meter and a half off the ground. So they can look at, yeah, look at like black mamba or yeah, black or green, but blacks are yeah, green mamba, sure. Blacks the one, yeah, so this, there's a black one in the middle there. But they, it's one of the most dangerous snakes in the world because it will just straight up attack you. Like it will, it will race at you and it's faster than you. It can rear up when it's sprinting to go.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Yeah, there we go. Um, it'll sprint after you as fast than you, and it can rear its body up like 50% of its body and look you in the eyes. And it's got neurotoxin, which means that if it bites you, your nervous system shuts down, it's not just your brain, like your muscles, your heart, your lungs, everything stops. It's a, it's a kill you in.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Does that kill you or does that just stop you enough for it to kill you? No, it kills you. It's not going to eat you. Well, not a human, but that's it. It kills things almost instantly because it stops their heart and their lungs. And, uh, look at that evil and that, see that, that, that photo beside it. That that's like such a mamba. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yeah. Yeah. And they are scary snakes, man. God. And it will chase you, right? It'll come up and it will chase you. God. Wow. And it will chase you, right? It'll come up and it will chase you. Yeah. We were in the river hunting.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Look at this idiot, what the hell's he doing? I don't know. He touching one. You're in the river, sorry, go ahead. And a green mamba, which is very similar to a black mamba, came out at me, specifically, out of a hole inside of the river. Aggressive like that, like I'm gonna kick this motherfucker. Like a streak of green lightning.
Starting point is 00:53:48 To what, protect their young or something? I just- Or just territory? They're just like a don't fuck with me snake. It's like a rabid Rottweiler. Like if you just, it's just aggressive as fuck and it's like, I will kill you, get out of my face. Yeah. And so we're walking through the river
Starting point is 00:54:04 looking for monkeys and shit to hunt and this green streak of lightning bolts out of a hole and this, the pygmy, one of the pygmy guys comes up and just bonks it right on the head. A meter in front of me, donk. And his machete, bonk, and its head goes in the water, it pops up and then it's-
Starting point is 00:54:22 Wait, sideways with the machete? Like the, no, the like the flat part. Yeah. So like bumped it on the head with the flat part of the machete. Yeah. To whack it down. It went into the water, came up, got confused.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Why did you fucking kill it? Just sliced it. Are you trying to bomb it? Then it sprinted, then they killed it. Then they killed it. And the ironic thing is that's what we ate that night. Should have been such a. Yeah, exactly. Should have been such a,
Starting point is 00:54:50 cause she had chilled with your little babies and then the whole, uh, and there's a, there's a video of, of, of this too. Um, you still in touch with your mom? What did she say about this? Shit? I tell her after mostly. Well, I mean, it's hard to hide, hard to hide. It's all posted on YouTube, right? So that's my move. It's like, she's not gonna want to know where I'm going. I don't do anything like that, but. Well, I didn't try, I didn't make this happen. Like the snake decided to be a dick.
Starting point is 00:55:11 But I mean, you put yourself in a position. There's so few green mambas in Manhattan. Yeah, that's the truth. Yeah. Probably exactly zero. Probably right around zero. Dude, I saw a snake in my first week in Myanmar, in Bagan, and I saw a snake and I was like,
Starting point is 00:55:27 is that a Burmese python? I think it was just a small card snake, but I'm like, I'm not taking a chance. I don't know. But you don't see that many snakes traveling. For the amount we talk about snakes and worry about snakes, we don't see that many snakes. Even in the jungles,
Starting point is 00:55:40 I've only seen a very small handful of snakes. You don't see them until it's kind of right on you. Well, that's I guess what happened right there, right? Yeah, even in like the Southwest with the rattlesnakes or outside LA where it's like, they're right there. You just don't know you're coming up towards one. Rattlers will at least warn you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:59 But you gotta be listening for it. And they don't want, generally- They don't want trouble. Yeah, most animals don't want trouble. This guy wants trouble. This guy will create trouble. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta be listening for it. And they don't, like, they don't want general trouble. Yeah. Most animals don't want trouble. This guy wants trouble. This guy will create trouble. Wow. Yeah. It's like when a dog just goes like, it's like, just let's not do this. Yeah. Just go walk away. Yeah, exactly. Why? Why instigate something? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:17 It's a scary snake dude. Um, but yeah, so we, they bonked it out there. Everything's food. We were eating like beetles and, and worms. And are you at all thinking like, what if I didn't get that black mom? But then what are we eating? Or you're just like, I'll figure it out. I eat what they eat. But they were not worried about it. They find food all the time. Maybe it's not always like a big monkey or like a wild boar, but they'll, they eat anything.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Like they do a really cool style of fishing too where they'll find a little small stream and they'll take mud and sticks and they'll block off a section. So you come in and can't get out? And then so they take like little, like leaves, like big leaves, and they shovel all the water out
Starting point is 00:57:01 and so the water goes down in that segment and they pick out all the minnows, the fish, the shrimp and crabs, and they just kind of put that all up in a, this is called an imboke but like a little leaf package and they put the leaf package in the fire. Oh yeah, well anyway, so they cook everything in little leaf packages. So it's like steamed.
Starting point is 00:57:18 So it cooks. Yeah, and so they put the green mamba in that and. Wow. Eat it on the fire. You've eaten monkey? Yep. Do they, so like I've heard from not quite this far out people, they're like, oh, we had to stop that.
Starting point is 00:57:30 We're getting crazy with it. What do you mean? The meat would turn them a little, like the wild monkeys were no longer safe to eat. Oh, I don't know. I know like with the brains, there's like, Yeah, with the brains. What's it, prions, is that what it's called?
Starting point is 00:57:42 These little like virus-y type things that, when I did hunting with the brains. What's it, prions, is that what it's called? These little like, viracy type things that, when I did hunting with the Hadza, guess what the best part of the baboon is? That everyone wants to eat first. Ass? Yeah! Oh, yes! Good job, how did you know that? Guess, guess, because that's what I always fantasize about.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Because you love to eat ass, that's why. Yeah, I mean, I lick it for a while. And they're like, you're doing it wrong. I'm like, no, no, I don't want to eat it. Just's why. I lick it for a while. They're like, you're doing it wrong. I'm like, uh, get in there with baboonas. Yeah, baboonas especially rank. But yeah, it's the fattiest part. Try to goat see it and then really get in there. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:17 But they say monkey meat's like salty. Like it's the best meat because it's salty and therefore human must taste pretty good too, honestly. So is it that they just stopped eating the brain? I think it's- Human must be. Yeah, a lot of tribes to lead monkeys a lot. But I think that there has been problems with these brain prion things that don't,
Starting point is 00:58:35 I don't even, I think it's like something even more basic than a virus, but it gets in there and just destroys your system. I don't know. Yeah, because it's like, why else would you stop a food source? There has to, it can't, why else would you stop a food source? There has to be, it can't either religion says no, no more or, and it's possible to the place where like the animist or something like that's not the issue. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But, um, yeah, they're, they're, they'll eat anything, man. Um, yeah, we,
Starting point is 00:58:58 we didn't have any shortage of food. It's just like, there's, there's tierless. All right. Getting like a pig or like a deer top tier tier. Eating grubs and stuff, it's still food. But it's not the ideal. If they bring back like a big thing, there's celebration. I mean, this is like when you're at the airport, you're like, I'll have McDonald's because there's nothing else here. But I would not have it in the wild.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Exactly, McDonald's is like a handful of worms. Yeah, right, right. Where it's like, this will get me by. Yeah. Yeah. Damn, I's, yeah, right, right. Where it's like, this will get me by. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. I mean, that makes sense, though. They're eating, so we'll get something.
Starting point is 00:59:29 That's got to be invigorating. Which part? Getting a big animal? Eating some shit like that. They were excited about that snake, too. Because I think that they get almost two meters long, these big mambas. And this one was close to that.
Starting point is 00:59:45 And there's a lot of food in there. And watching them take this extremely dangerous venomous snake, cutting it all up, showing me the head like they're all proud, and then like gutting it and then preparing it, cutting into segments they would take. Once they cut the snake into segments and gutted it, they'd take the back of the machete
Starting point is 01:00:02 and they'd break all the spinal bones. So it was, I guess, more tender, and they put it in these little green packages and then cooked it with a little bit of salt. And it was good, dude. Can they get salt and stuff there? How did they get spices? They would probably have to trade for salt,
Starting point is 01:00:15 because out there, there wouldn't be any salt. They would have traded, they would bring some things from the forest, whether it be those leaves that the whole country uses to be able to make plates and to cook with, like the cooking leaves, or they'd bring honey or something and trade it for salt. And then just up down river to like get.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And some, like some of these tribes, there's very few, like purely uncontacted tribes in the world, maybe like Papua New Guinea, maybe like deep, deep Amazon. But a lot of these tribes could have access to a motorcycle, whether they have, or they have a buddy with a friend who has a motorcycle
Starting point is 01:00:48 and they would do some. The Amazonian places I saw was like, okay, we have goods here. We gotta get it to the like Puyo or some main town, or Cocoa or something in main town. So it's like up river, which is like harder, but they have like a little bit of gas that they've traded for, they get a boat up there.
Starting point is 01:01:04 And they have all these goods and like gas that they've traded for, they get a boat up there, and they have all these goods, and like half of it just pays for the trip, and then they trade for a little bit and then come back with like some concrete or whatever. Yeah, whatever they need. And they would travel days sometimes to be able to get those things right. Yeah, right, exactly. And it's like, and those people are so tough, they're like, oh, just sleep on the street.
Starting point is 01:01:20 No problem. Yeah. Yeah, just like the pygmies just make a little hole, make a little, take a couple leaves, drape them over top, and just sleep in it like a cat would in a cozy mattress. Do you journal while you're out doing this? Or is it all just video? I used to journal a lot, but now it's mostly on video. I mean, that's a way to record it
Starting point is 01:01:43 in a way that doesn't slow you down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To describe, using descriptive words is gonna slow you down, but just like slow. And part of it's to remember, right? And so it's honestly pretty cool to have it all documented, right? It's just being able to film, like for example,
Starting point is 01:01:57 when the Mamba attacked, I wasn't rolling. So once it got like bonked in the head, I grabbed my camera and pulled it out and you can see the guys running off into the woods in the video, and they bring back the snake head. So being able to capture it in total purity and authenticity is a bit tough sometimes, because you can't always roll.
Starting point is 01:02:15 That's my biggest problem. So I'm in a world where I'm considered adventurous to comedians, and then not so much to real fucking out there travelers, you know? And they're like, why don't you like film this stuff? And I'm like, if I film it, it goes away. I can't do, I can't run after a train with my buddy
Starting point is 01:02:37 trying to get on while there's a film crew. I can't talk to a, I don't know how you do it, talk to tribes members or just somebody local while there's somebody filming they're on it. Even the baboons or whatever. And like, and like grills in the mist. We're like, they change when you're filming them. For sure. And the beginning it was a lot more formal, but over the years and doing this, it's just been becoming more informal because little GoPro,
Starting point is 01:03:02 just like this is just so much more comfortable for everybody. And I don't want to be the, like the, the BBC style presenter where it's like, I've got a videographer that comes, but I don't want to be, ever be the guy who's there like, Oh, look at the tribe eating the monkey and be so distance from it. It's so much better. You got a little GoPro, you're there, you're
Starting point is 01:03:23 interacting, you're talking, you're trying, you're talking, you're trying, you're helping stir the pot of corn porridge, joking around, and then you can open up a whole different experience. But to what you just said, it's hard to keep it purely authentic when you're making content. Yeah, Sam Talent, I don't know if you've seen his. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Wide World, he's a comedian. So he'll go places and film sorry and then just There's no audio on that or there's audio, but he's not doing anything and then later he goes in and narrates it Mmm, because I'm not looking at slow. It's me my buddies that is a really good buddy goes like this He goes here's Mike. He throws up a lot Yeah, you know, but he doesn't have to like make jokes on the spot and disrupt his his movements for that That's really good because that's it. Um, and then it takes the pressure off saying the perfect thing on camera and then
Starting point is 01:04:09 you can go back and you can write some fun stuff. And that's why Bourdain was, was I think so his show is so beautiful is because he would host a little bit, but what he would write was always so elegant and clever and beaten. And he'd go back to, he was like, it's like he would explore it for a bit, and then like, now let me take the crew to where these places are. Exactly, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Yeah, he'd write stuff, and he'd, right, he'd narrate it later, right? His voiceover was so, so good for what he was doing, yeah. And then you're not thinking of like, you're not acting in the moment. You're not like, what do I say, how do I say it? Like, it's not done yet. You have no idea what it's about to bring you. And you don't know, in the thick. You're not like, what do I say, how do I say it? It's not done yet. You have no idea where it's about to bring you.
Starting point is 01:04:45 And you don't know, in the thick of it, you can't even always put the emotion together. So after a trip, you can sit there and be like, wow. And you can kind of sort the feelings and thoughts of all the crazy things you saw. And then you can find a theme or a feeling to then go back and actually paint that feeling you had through a story.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Henry Rolland said he doesn't try to write about stuff for six months after he travels somewhere. Because he's not sure where it fits yet. Instead of just forcing it, instead he could be like, I might be able to use one detail of this hostel in a big piece about hostels. Or, and then I stayed in another hostel in China, it reminded me of this place.
Starting point is 01:05:20 But it's like, I gotta sit on that to be able to wait for it. Yeah, I feel that for sure. Yeah, I do, I do a bit of both, but I'm definitely inspired by, by Bourdain to go back and the more heartfelt stuff is always done after when you felt, you know where the experience is going and you can reflect on it all. Yeah. And then also you get some, some, uh, it's like the tough times become fun in hindsight.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Yeah, like type two fun, heard that before? Type two fun, uh uh. Type one fun is like, yeah, we're having fun, man, let's go, and type two fun is like, I fucking hate this, this sucks balls, and then like a week later, that was actually pretty fucking dope. That was so cool, remember that? Remember we had to sleep outside
Starting point is 01:05:59 and you were yelling at me because of this, I'm like, oh yeah, that's right, I was so mad at you, but you're smiling as you say it. This was type two fun, this is like, are we even gonna make it through this? And then after, I was like, oh yeah, that's right. I was so mad at you, but you're smiling as you say it. This was type two fun. This is like, are we even gonna like make it through this? And then after I was like, yeah, that was pretty dope. Are you, what are the bathrooms like? There's no bathrooms, you shit in the woods. But you go out.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Yeah, there's generally, some places have like a shitting area, but out there things decompose so fast. Like a lot of the- So fast in the jungle, it's living and dying at all moments, all the time you while you're shitting the flies are already coming to eat your shit Well, they're like this circle of life is and like fast forward we went to like a lodge whatever in in the Amazon right after kovat so no one had been there for Five six months and everything was broken down all they the walks, because like you're not stepping on it like wiping away the allergy or whatever,
Starting point is 01:06:48 it was all breaking down. Have you seen, are you much into Graham Hancock's work? I've heard of him, but I don't really know enough about him. It's like the ancient apocalypse stuff. But one thing that people talk a lot about now that we're discovering is these ancient civilizations in the Amazon, where we thought that nobody was really there except for some hodgepodge tribes.
Starting point is 01:07:10 But there's a document or a chronicle of some explorer, hundreds of years ago that went through and came back and said, there's massive cities and villages and there's people and it's advanced. And then they went back a couple hundred years later and there was nothing and all the guy lied. What they think happened is when the hundred years later and there was nothing and all the guy lied. But what they think happened is when the first crew got lost and went through and they saw all of these amazing civilizations, they dropped off smallpox
Starting point is 01:07:32 and bullshit and then the fact that everyone got infected, they had to leave the cities and then everything just got consumed by the jungle. Like a hundred years in the Amazon, things go away. And there's no stones there either, right? There's no stones and steel, it's all this earth. So it all got buried. So it's for sure gonna break down.
Starting point is 01:07:49 But now what they're finding with Lidar, which is like- That's how they get Angkor Wat places? Yeah, so this is the, like Lidar goes through the canopy and they can see all of these, I think they're called like- Mounds? Mounds, yeah, exactly. Wow.
Starting point is 01:08:02 And they can hunt like thousands of mounds. So there was some gigantic civilization there that we disregarded as fake, but now they're finding the proof. Wow. The first guy that discovered Angkor Wat for the story I heard was a Christian, and he was like, this is disgusting.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Oh my God. This is anti-God, tell no one. And he like told one guy, but he goes, don't go there, it's disgusting. It's not Christ there at all. And then another guy was the discoverer of it because he was like, this is rules. This is that it's one of the coolest places on earth.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Oh my God. Yeah. The first guy was like abomination. Oh my God. Fucking Christ. They really slow things down. I think they filmed Tomb Raider there at one of the temples.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Yeah, makes sense. And when you see it, it feels like it's out of a video game, right? Yeah, exactly, with the trees growing up through the faces. So you're in these, how do you get out of the Congo? Of the Heart of Darkness. By the way, what was that book? Was it Heart of Darkness? It was called Heart of Darkness. It was written like in 1999. And then they based what movie on that? I think it was, I don't know, it's the same name.
Starting point is 01:09:02 A lot, but it was a Kubrick movie. The book was written in like 1900s. I think there was the same name a lot, but it was a Kubrick movie. The book was written in like 1900s. And it was, I think it was about the atrocities that happened. I haven't read it. Oh, but that was in, wasn't that in, it was based on heart of darkness to him going through in Vietnam or wherever in pen. What? Oh, I'm thinking of a poc apocalyptic. That's the one that the Mayan one.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was just based on that, like going deeper and deeper into this like dark area, dark with both terms, you know, and then trying to take over. Yeah, I mean, I make it sound dark. It's just a very corrupt country, but the people there are beautiful men. And another thing that-
Starting point is 01:09:44 Do they come at you? No, everyone's, everyone was super friendly and in the big cities, people like in all these travels I've gone to, like in, in, um, in Africa, especially like I've been to DRC Congo. I've been to Angola just recently, Zimbabwe up in Mauritania as well. That's considered quite dangerous. We did a trip. Yeah. There's tons of refugees here from Mauritania. Really? Oh yeah, there was a lot.
Starting point is 01:10:08 I was like, we're like, it's broken French. One guy spoke English, it's Mauritania. I was like, why are you here? He goes, not my choice, bro. Yeah. I had to leave in the middle of the night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a rough place. So we did a video there.
Starting point is 01:10:19 I've been to Turkmenistan and Pakistan, but in all those places, people are so fucking friendly. So friendly. And. Does your skin get you like a passport into conversations? It's like this, let's, let's picture we have like some Congolese pygmy walking down the street
Starting point is 01:10:37 right now and we see him at the window and he's got like a paper map and he looks very lost. We wouldn't go jack as shit, right? We'd be like, bro, how are you here? Come in, have some tea, look, have a coffee. That's the attitude. Yeah. Because they're like, how did you get here?
Starting point is 01:10:51 It's funny because I always, whenever I'm somewhere where I'm like, you know, the one white, I'm like, it's dangerous, they could take advantage. But I'm like, I'm sure that guy in that image with the paper map is like, they could just rob me and kill me and I wouldn't get justice. Yeah, but we don't think of that though. We're just like, where are you from?
Starting point is 01:11:09 It's different. Turns out not everyone's a murderer. No, exactly. Yeah. And of all those countries, the things that I've had happen have always been opportunistic, like for example, my bag being broken into at the airport or my car being broken into at the airport or my car being
Starting point is 01:11:26 broken into. It's the big city shit. It's where the tourists are. Big city shit every single time. And it's been in like Montreal and it's been places like that. In Congo, they tried to steal my bag. Some guy, I don't know if it was on purpose or not, had my bag stacked up with a few others. He was leaving and luckily I had an air tag and I was like, where the bag should be here?
Starting point is 01:11:43 And I saw it like going by. I'm like, whoa, it's my bag. And I saw it like going by like, Whoa, it's my bag. And he took it all. Oh, I'm so sorry, sir. Oh, I played that game whenever I'm shoplifting. It's like, what? Oh, I thought she paid for it. Yeah. It, uh, they almost got me there. That's so great. And you know that the sickest I've been, uh, like I've eaten some pretty foul shit, man. There's,
Starting point is 01:12:01 there's one in maybe the most foul, two most foul are both in northern Philippines yeah up in a place called Sagada which is where they have like they have you heard of Wang odd the hundred and probably nine year old tattoo artist so she used to tattoo headhunters you'd bring a head back and they'd give you a tattoo to prove how much of a man you are oh and this woman is ancient hundred 109 probably now, and she still does these old school headhunter tattoos for tourists who go up there.
Starting point is 01:12:31 And one of the funny things she does as well is she's 109, and so she gives no fucks. And so you get a tattoo from her, and she's got like face tattoos, she's like all wrinkly, and she's got arm tattoos. And they're like, oh, do you want to get a photo with Wang Odd? And you're like, of course I do, right? So you pose there with your new tattoo and you smile. And then it's like three, two, one, and on cheese, she grabs your dick.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Because she loves seeing the photo of the tourists going, oh! That's so great. And if you want to put it in, there's probably hundreds of photos to put Wang on, W-H-A-N-G-O-D, and then put like Dick or something, I don't know. There it is, there she is. Yeah, she's grabbing, boom. Isn't she a beautiful little lady? Oh my God, that's so funny? Yeah, she loves it.
Starting point is 01:13:26 So up there is pretty much like the Wild West. They still they put when you die, it's the old, old, old way of doing things up there is if you die, you get put into a shack and they tie you to a chair, your dead body, they smoke you for a week. And then the young the young men of the village pass you like a football from person to person, hoping that your dead body juices land on them as a blessing. And then they put you in a, in a cliff grave, like, um, like a hanging coffin on a cliff. So it's, it's super cool up there.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Um, but they have some weird foods. So for example, they smoke pork. It's called a tag. Wait, wait, wait, wait, this is going to be for another episode. One thing I'm good at like, wait hold it save it yeah would you go back to Congo or are you done with plates once you feel like you've explored it the cap on that story is the sickest I've been is generally eating from 7-elevens like eating a hot shitty hot dog from a 7-Eleven has made me sick three or four times. Like violent diarrhea. More than this eating black mamba.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Usually it's like some convenience store bullshit at something like that. That's how I've gotten the most sick. Not eating the foul shit. Is there any food you found in the Congo that you're like, I want that again. I need to find it. I need to find a Congolese restaurant.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Find it. The snake, nope. The snake was pretty, pretty tasteless, honestly. Uh, but they, one thing that I got pretty fond of over there is you see it in a lot of African countries, but they call it Fufu. They call it Funch. They call it, um, a lot of different names. Yeah, just Fufu. Um, that looks, yeah, but that looks too commercial, but basically it's a corn porridge.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Yeah. Yeah. Like that. And so you would, you would eat with your hands and you dip that into whatever sauce or curry you got going on. Yeah. And that's a lot tear it apart and dip it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Normally it's, it's not in those nice, beautiful circles. It's like a mound, like it looks like mashed potatoes, but it's really, really starchy. And so that's, that's like the staple. That's like the potato, the, the side that that'd be a very, like it looks like mashed potatoes, but it's really, really starchy. And so that's like the staple. That's like the potato, the side that, yeah, that'd be a very, very common dish there, at like a local restaurant. And so no forks.
Starting point is 01:15:33 All with your hands, baby. Did you do this thing? Yeah, you know the thing. You gotta shovel it with a thumb. Yeah, some Italian chick in Indonesia, I was like, you ever get in awe of somebody? I mean, you're pretty up there, but like all of someone else's like travel abilities.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Yeah. We're like, what? You're just like this? I mean, you're pretty up there, but like all of someone else's like travel abilities. Yeah. We're like, what? She's just like this Italian chick. She was just gone. She was lost. And you just. And you do the shovel. I've got a question for you.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Have you wiped your ass with your hand before? Yeah. Yeah. What was that like? Bro, I'm, okay. I'm gonna tell you something. I do it in society. Like I was on a hike in a canyon with my buddy, Okay, I'm going to tell you something. I do it in society.
Starting point is 01:16:09 I was on a hike in a canyon with my buddy, uh, Ryan O'Neill. And I just had to shit. You know it, there's times where I'm like, Hey, the odds of me getting back to the car and then to a place is low. It's just, let's deal with it now. You know? Yeah. Wipe with your hand. I had a Pepsi zero. As he was going, what the fuck are you doing? Just behind a bush as like people are walking by. So I have, I'm more disgusting than most people. Um, it gets it. You can find the crevices and get it out of there. It needs some water.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Those fingertips are really sensitive and you can, you can much better understand what's happening back there if there's no paper. Not by choice though. It's like you end up in a bathroom and you're like, Oh fuck, I'm in Congo and there's no toilet paper. And do we even get the bucket of water there or not really? I mean, not in the forest, right? But in the restaurants, uh, yeah. How do you wipe in the forest? These are questions I don't know how to ask.
Starting point is 01:17:00 How did you wipe in the forest? I usually have wet naps, but if I don't it's usually it's it's usually fingers I mean if I was in Canada or in the States, I just spit spitting your finger and get the little that way I haven't tried that I haven't either. It's like I just thought of it. It would work. There's some fluid there Well, maybe after the after the show. I'll give a shot. Yeah, let's wipe each other's ass with our hands See who gets it was of a contest Yeah, we'll smell each other's ass with our hands. Let's see who gets it. It wasn't a contest. Let's see who gets the cleanest. Yeah, we'll smell each other's assholes. Some photo evidence.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Yeah. And if it does not demonetize yet, and now. There we go. If I was in Canada, I'd grab a leaf, you know, cause there's nothing that's gonna kill you. If I'm in the Congo or in the Amazon, I'm not gonna grab a random leaf, I don't know. So I just kinda go with the fingers and just rub,
Starting point is 01:17:42 just dip the fingers in the earth a little bit. Clean them off. Oh, the dirt'll clean earth a little bit. Go back down there. Clean them off. Oh, the dirt'll clean it off a lot. Yeah, it will. Do you, is there a level where you are, how do I phrase this? Prissy and then at a point, let go of the prissiness.
Starting point is 01:17:57 There's a luxury here where I'm like, even if I see a dollar bill on the ground and I touch it, I'm like, my hand is disgusting now. But then when you're like hiking in like rural somewhere, we're like, oh, my hands have been discussed. Well, I don't care anymore right now. I mean, when you lose that, like luxurious. I, when I make, when I make the, the, the, the films,
Starting point is 01:18:17 the, the videos, I, I'm very attentive to not looking like I'm not a local, like I don't want to look like I'm a white foreigner, purelling my hands the whole time. Right? Because two things happen then. If I'm going to stand on the sidelines, eat my granola bars and purell my hands, they're going to see me differently.
Starting point is 01:18:35 If I'm in the thick of it, you know, like eating with my fingers and like helping them climb trees and shit and eating their food, even if it's like weird or gross, then that opens up a really authentic experience for me. Uh, but also the opportunity to show the viewers what it's really like, because you can't really show what a person's like or a tribe is
Starting point is 01:18:58 like, if you're not going to be in the thick of it, basically offering yourself to the experience. Cause then they'll show their true colors. They allow you to get the camera in there. Like if you're on the sideline shooting the camera, it gets weird, but if you're in there eating the worms with them, and they've never seen a white guy eat worms before,
Starting point is 01:19:13 everyone's giggling and laughing and they're- They're laughing at how you're doing it? Yeah, because you can't do it right, I don't know how to eat fucking worms, so. There's this thing that happens sometimes where you're like, children is always the best. I don't know how it was there, but, I mean, your French is fluent,
Starting point is 01:19:29 so you probably talk to people, but like, language is easier, because they speak lower, but then they go like, where you are? You know, like, instead of like, where you're from, and then you're like, New York, they go, oh my God, oh, he talked! And then you just run off, it's a fun feeling,
Starting point is 01:19:42 when they're like, look at him talk! I'm like, you talk too, asshole! But I'm like, you talked. And they just run off. It's a fun feeling when they're like, look at him talk. I'm like, you talk too, asshole. But I'm just talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you're not a real thing. Or like you're eating. Like, wow, you're eating our food. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Well, they all gather around and to watch you like eat the fufu or the funes, whatever you want, it doesn't really, like they'll want, and you'll do it wrong and you're not dipping in the right way you're supposed to dip. And they all think it's hilarious. But it's the same thing if, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:04 you bring someone from there to try to eat a lobster. You know what I mean? Like how the hell would you're supposed to dip. And they all think it's hilarious. But the same thing if, you know, you bring someone from there to try to eat a lobster, you know what I mean? Like how the hell would you ever know how to eat a lobster unless you were specifically shown how? This was the same thing that happens if you go to somebody rich, like super rich, their place, and you're like, I'm gonna fuck it up. Yeah, because of the cutlery.
Starting point is 01:20:17 Which cutlery? They're like, what are you doing? That's a butter knife. It worked. You filthy animal. Yeah. What advice would you give to someone going to the Congo? Like make sure to bring or don't bring whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Well it is, my, yeah well, as a testament to how corrupt it is, I spent like 400 bucks on a visa before I arrived. You have to do it in advance, right? So I went to the embassy, all the kind of stuff, yada yada, sent the money, got the stamp, got there. Well, I had a piece of paper saying that I had done the process.
Starting point is 01:20:51 And so the idea is you go there, you show the paper, they give you the visa in your passport. So I get there, of course, I haven't met my guide yet because he's already there. And so I'm in the airport alone, but I got my paper, we're good, I speak a little bit of French. And so I go to the airport alone, but I got my paper. We're good, I speak a little bit of French. And so I go to the immigration officer and I show him my paper for my visa.
Starting point is 01:21:08 And he's like, nope. And I said, what do you mean no? And he's like, no, no good. And I was like, well, what happens? And he points to a door. And so I go in the door and there's an official there and he's like, you need a visa. I'm like, I have a visa. And he's like, no it's the wrong visa even though it's it's the only tourist visa
Starting point is 01:21:28 There is and just shakedown shaked and like so they they made me buy the visa a second time So they could just pocket pocket the money, right? And what do you just know what's happening and then say fuck it? What do you do? Right? You're not even in the country yet. You can't say no, you'll be stuck in the airport for a month You can't say no. You'll be stuck in the airport for a month. You can play dumb. You can really go like, no, no, I did it. I did. I don't understand what you're saying. I do. You can play dumb, but at some point they might get aggressive. I mean, I only works if you are dumb. Yeah. You don't realize you're being shaken down. Right. And so I argued for, for 15 minutes and they're like, nope, got to pay.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Nope. Got to pay. Got to pay. And so you just, you just pay. And so throughout the country, like I mentioned earlier, whenever I do these places, I just, I, my guide has all of the money because the second I pull out a 20 or a one or whatever it is to pay, I am, yeah, all the attention to attention goes there. So I just say no money, talk to him.
Starting point is 01:22:20 And they're less likely to like fuck with a local. Yeah. Yeah. Well, then he just knows how to negotiate. He knows what things cost. He knows what's a shakedown, what's not, and in a corrupt country like that. And even we go into one of these smaller villages,
Starting point is 01:22:32 we get there and immediately there's a guy who comes up and he's got a tape recorder. And he starts asking all these questions in French. Why are you here? It's for the local newspaper and the radio. And so we're being cool and answering the questions. And then after like half an hour interview, he's like, okay, I'll publish it for $200.
Starting point is 01:22:50 And you're like, bitch, I was doing you a favor. I didn't want to publish it. Yeah. And so I guess the advice would be number one, finding a, finding a good guide and honestly, things like watching YouTube videos is good because you can find, generally people will tag who they've used and you can kind of see who they've used, who they've used.
Starting point is 01:23:10 As in like a content creator would go to like, for example, I've got a guy in Tanzania named gumbo big guy, yeah, guy really great guide and who, who knows how to find the real stuff. So like when I hear God, I think tour group. No, I know it's different. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:27 So it's like hiring one particular guy for me, generally it's someone who has some TV experience. So the same kind of person like BBC or not geo would use because they, they know what you want. They, they, they ha they've worked in a production. They know you want the real shit, not the painted shit. And so you, you pay a premium for that, but they, they make things happen.
Starting point is 01:23:48 You're doing well enough now that you're like, I have to, that's fine. Yeah. And I can't be in a group tour, man. And you can, yeah, exactly. And you can't, I don't, I'll do it actually once in a while when it really is a group toury kind of thing. We're taking you on a, on the tour of the canals in Amsterdam. Okay. I'll join everybody. Yeah. And it's fun. You meet some meet some kooky people from around the world, drink some wine, whatever.
Starting point is 01:24:06 They have, I gotta piss real quick, but this is what they do. The problem with the guides sometimes is, so in Angkor Wat, I got told, skip this, skip this, skip this, here are the four you wanna go. The guy who'd been there a bunch, William Childress. And I'm like, okay, I wanna go.
Starting point is 01:24:20 But they have the Angkor Wat tour, and it's the one good one, one okay one, and three shitty ones. And then they have the this tour, and's the one good one, one okay one and three shitty ones. And then they have the this tour and it's one good one, one okay one, three shitty ones. And I'm like, no, no, I want these four. Fuck the shitty ones, take me from spot to spot. On a toto.
Starting point is 01:24:35 And with the group you can't do that. Yeah, I'm like, wait, this isn't the one? And he goes, no, but you said the number B tour. And I'm like, no, fucking no. Yeah, yeah, not the package one. You need a good one to be like, can you just do what I want? Yeah. And you pay for that. But sure with that, you have all of the flexibility.
Starting point is 01:24:49 So if you want to change plan or you find like a cool side route where there's a monk at the temple, it says, come back to my monastery. You can just go do that. Right? You're right though. You do feel like when you're in somewhere, you're like, Oh, this is the assigned group stop and every group will stop here. It's not authentic. It's a little bit of like, give me some money, vibe versus like, like if I'm taking you around New York, I don't take you to Times Square.
Starting point is 01:25:15 I'm like, oh, there's a good pizza place right here. And they're not like treating it different. You know, it's just a place I know. Versus like the pizza place to go to. I don't even know what that would be. The tourist trap, yeah. Like in Rome, for example, you go there, or I'm sure Paris too, where it's like,
Starting point is 01:25:30 there's the great pizza spot in Rome that's right by the Colosseum. Yeah. And it might have all of these signs and shit, but it's not the real. Yeah, yeah, Sean Patton will do that for New Orleans. He'll be like, oh, I mean, go to Bourbon Street once to see it, but then like, let me show you
Starting point is 01:25:46 the part of town to hang out in. And then it's just like real. Or Paris, it's just like cafes, it's not the one to go to. So for guides, like, there's one here, they have good Monte Cristo's, okay. Yeah, you just follow the locals' recommendation. For the longest time, dude, before I was filming a lot, I would go on Couchsurfing.
Starting point is 01:26:03 And then you'd Couchsurf, and and then whether find some tips. Yeah. Yeah. Because either they would come with you, which is how it used to be before the Chad. I can say, I think it got leery. I think like every dude's ruined everything. Chat roulette was cool for a bit. And then dudes like, look at my pretty quick couch surfing was cool. And then any woman, they were like, let's see if I can fuck these travelers. Yeah. Not full. Like, I'm sorry, Chad's, but like, uh, but like, um, like creep. I mean, let's say you're a host, right?
Starting point is 01:26:34 And you have two people looking for a night on your couch and once like a hot Japanese girl, once like some dude from Kentucky, it's like, you're going to pick the guys are always thinking there's a chance, even if you're not leery, you're still I don't know she might try yeah I might not make me to make the first move but at the end of the day it's like the opportunity is always appealing but that's how if you're the heyday the prime of couch roping sounds like a great way to like do that yeah because they either they come with you and you go join the boys for like a football game or they say oh you got to go here go here go here or go here. Oh, I got this friend. They can take you.
Starting point is 01:27:06 And that was the best way. Yeah. We're going to a party at the, or we're going to the local like burrito place in Austria. Yeah. I'm like, okay. And that's the fantasy. Like you don't want to go there and just feel like you're detached from, from the culture. You want to be there. The dream is to always be part of the culture, but if you're not from there, how do you do that? But it's having that local to be the key.
Starting point is 01:27:25 This is what Sean Patton also said about New Orleans. It's a different country really. But like, he goes, there's always people moving there. They're gentrifying it to, not to white, but just to outsiders. And he goes, but then you don't get involved. We're all marching down Bourbon Street with the Saints to go to the stadium.
Starting point is 01:27:41 You're sitting on the sidelines taking pictures of it. Come in the parade. Exactly. Join us. That's a great way to do stadium, you're sitting on the sidelines, taking pictures of it. Come in the parade. Join us. That's a great way to do it where you're not like, you're like purelling your hands. We're like separating yourself. Yeah. You're like, yeah, I'm with you guys. I don't know. Louisiana is a whole interesting place. Isn't it? Neil Gaiman said it's not really America. He said it's like, it just happens to be in the border.
Starting point is 01:28:04 I went there, went there to meet this guy named Skeeter Ray, who used to be a swamp rat hunter. It's like Cajun Santa Claus, dude. And we had a swamp rat roast out there about a year ago. Damn. Only there, bro. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Two last questions and then we'll get out of here. One is what else is calling you? What have you, where you've never been? Do you want to go next? And two is just any kind of travel tip about places about in general pack light is obviously the most normal one I've gotten, but like any, I mean, you've given a bunch without trying to like the not Purell stuff,
Starting point is 01:28:43 but that kind of thing. Well, the next plan is Mongolia. Nice. We're currently negotiating a nine day cross country winter four by four journey to visit. Don't they have that from like here to there? Yeah, what's that called? Mongol Rally, maybe? And you just gotta like fix your car along the way
Starting point is 01:29:02 and these people know that you're going through their countries. I think it's Mongol Rally, yeah. And then you sell your car there. Yeah, I don't know how long how many days that is It'd be longer than nine days, but yeah, this is like a yeah nine day four by four self-led So you're driving around your form by four to visit over the desert and stuff. Well, it's winter So it's like snow and these these tribes they've got reindeer they live in Yurts. And imagine it's gonna be dark as fuck the whole time.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Oh, that'll be cool. Very cool. Yeah, that'll be really cool. You'll see them hunt with like eagles and shit. Yeah, well what I hope to find is, there's all these stories of how the shaman of some of these tribes in Siberia, and especially up north, the reindeer eat amanita mushrooms
Starting point is 01:29:45 and the shamans drink the piss. And you can trip on that. And I've been trying, I was gonna go up here, there's a tribe called the Nanet that live up like, northern Russia. And my plan was to go ASAP, but you can't, I was even looking at, you can't even fly to Russia right now, I couldn't find any flights.
Starting point is 01:30:02 I couldn't find any flights to Moscow. So on Expedia when I was scoping it out. So, and one thing people don't understand about the world is like, okay, we can say, you know, Russia's in a war. It's dangerous, but if there was a, like for example, in New Orleans that dude drove the truck through the, through Riverbend Street, would you still go to Seattle?
Starting point is 01:30:20 Yeah. Yeah, because it's like. I saw an interview recently, there was like, a man on the street, they just interviewed some men on the street like people passing by in this guy like any travel dips and goes Oh, yeah, go directly after have you seen this one? No go directly after Natural disaster or terrorist attack. Yeah, he goes security's never as high. Yeah, no one's there. So you get plenty of deals Yeah, they don't do terrorist act two days in a row. Yeah You're the furthest away from another terrorist attack and and then you have your run of every hotel and security says so high so you're so safe and you
Starting point is 01:30:51 get deals. I love that. There's never a terrorist attack two days in a row. Yeah, who would do that? What a hack. Yeah, yeah. So just like you'd still go to Seattle if there was something happening in New Orleans, right? Yeah. Would you still go like here if there was something happening? It's a whole, it's like a, it's the same country, but not, not really. People say this in Israel too, where they're like, it's dangerous now.
Starting point is 01:31:11 I'm like, no, Gaza. Yeah. If you're in Jerusalem, you're fine. Yeah. And I guess that could be the segue into the travel tip is that if you want to go to some of these countries that are marked red, like we saw on Google Maps with travel advisories, just understand that, that not necessarily the whole country is dangerous,
Starting point is 01:31:28 and if you have a local guide who understands the political climate, where there could be unrest, what areas to go in, you don't really have to worry that much. Because they've got your back, and generally everyone's there just to help you. And it's the most unfriendly places are the most tourist friendly destinations. Like you'll stand on the bike lane in Amsterdam. Oh, screaming at you. Versus going to like a new I dibu in Mauritania.
Starting point is 01:31:57 And then they walk down the street and I had to turn down like 20 different opportunities for tea at guys houses because they just, just so excited to see you so Again, there's there's sketchy spots in the world, but if you just find someone who can help you dude the whole world is your oyster Yeah, that's good And then what it says compared to the rest of the country does have a cryo-heim rate and violent crimes make up Oh, wait, that's not it. Chicago's safe for tourists, here.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Damn. What's the fact? Anyway, it says Chicago's safe. It's like, yeah, there's higher crime, but where the crime is the worst is not where tourists go. Yeah. So they're like, so really don't worry about it. Exactly. And again, you're not going to walk down random streets. You're going to be on some kind of itinerary, even if it's through a friend.
Starting point is 01:32:58 Right. Do you do drugs when you're in these, in these tribes? I do. What, just whatever they give you? Or are you like a, no, I can't right now. I'm in, I'm always in a hundred percent. I might not, well no I have trip balls quite a few times. But I mean at the end of the day we still have to get shit done right? But often, for example, one we just did in the Amazon with the Yanomami tribe, we were in Venezuela, went down to the far far south, flew in with like a chartered plane and then did like five hours up the river and they do something called Yopo Which is you know like rapé where they blow the dirt It's like tobacco and plants and stuff, but generally it's like an eagle bone like a hollow a hollow
Starting point is 01:33:38 Bone or a hollow reed and they they pack it full of all kinds of plants definitely tobacco But and they just go and they blow it into your nose like a powder. But the Yopo is done with a certain kind of plant that has I think Bifotenine and DMT and these boys, the coolest thing ever, man, is they don't just do it to to trip necessarily for like recreation, they do it to cast spells. And so what I mean by that is we were out hunting with, with these guys and, uh, they were finding all kinds of stuff. And we got honey, we got like acai berries, all these really cool
Starting point is 01:34:14 things from Amazon and then all of a sudden rain clouds started to come in. And, um, they all got really serious and like made a little huddle, all the elders. And, uh, I thought that they were just trying to call off the hunt and deciding, Oh, is it too much rain? But no, they were trying to figure out which tribe had sent a magical spell, a rainstorm at them. And so the council of elders got together and like, Oh shit, it's probably those boys over behind the mountain.
Starting point is 01:34:39 We got to get back to the village to cast our own spells back at those guys because they're a bunch of bitches and this is unfair. That's so cool. Yeah, we went back to the village and they do this every single day. Either to- That's like Macabé. So they do it every day to wage war on, like they're a warring tribe, but not with spears and arrows.
Starting point is 01:35:02 Just with spells. With spells. And if they're not fighting the other tribes, they're a warring tribe, but not with spears and arrows. Just with spells. With spells. And if they're not fighting the other tribes, they're fighting, they say, the demons within themselves. And so they blow this hallucinogenic powder up each other's noses. Like it's always two hits.
Starting point is 01:35:16 One, and then you kind of, you see like an explosion in your brain, and it ah, and then they. Gets the pores open. Yeah, for sure it does. And they do a second hit in the second nostril. And you sit back and you see this, like DMT, or you see the spirals, you have the feelings. And they start singing and chanting and like dancing,
Starting point is 01:35:34 and they cast spells. So again, man, I always want to prove that I'm one of the boys, because I mean, I want the experience, but also I want the people to have the full experience. And so I did, those guys did three rounds. I couldn't handle more than two because it's like, it'd be like, it's like sniffing.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Sniffs is like that too. Like battery acid. Oh, it's especially not used to it. They must be like, it's no big deal. Yeah. And it goes down the back of your throat and it like drips out of your nose. You got these big black snot cannons, but you, you trip. Wow. Um, you trip. Yeah. And it was,
Starting point is 01:36:09 it was so fucking cool to sit there with those guys. And I was trying to cast spells. I didn't really know how. I was just like, Hey, white check, white checks can make their own religion on the spot. They just sit there and they're like, actually I think you're supposed to do this. Yeah. One of these things. Making shit up. Nobody wakes up religions like white chicks. Just like for any sunset they're like,
Starting point is 01:36:30 I beseech thee Lord. I used to live in Playa del Carmen, so like an hour north of Tulum, and Tulum is filled with that. Conspirituality I think is a word I heard describe it. I like that. Yeah, so that was a good one that we did just last year, man. But I love that because like I said earlier,
Starting point is 01:36:50 every tribe, every group of people on this planet has some way to tune the antenna. Now, do they say, like, hey, we're, like, do they present it as, hey, we're gonna do some drugs right now? Like, okay, if I offer you a beer, I'm not like, whatever. If I'm saying, if I'm offering you mushrooms, I'm like, hey, do you want some, it's more of a different, like, push, if I offer you a beer, I'm not like whatever. If I'm saying, if I'm offering you mushrooms, I'm like, hey, do you want some,
Starting point is 01:37:06 it's more of a different push to you, you know? Than that or coffee for sure, it's like, who cares, are they pushing this, like, you wanna do some drugs? If you hang, yeah, if you don't, they won't. If they feel like you are one of them, they will, from my experience, pretty much always offer. And in the Congo, now that I think about it, um,
Starting point is 01:37:26 with the second tribe, they pulled out a bamboo bong on the second day and they had some fucking bush weed that they, I'm assuming grew and we smoked, uh, we smoked out there with them too. Don't throw those seeds away. Exactly. Precious, precious cargo. We definitely need them.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Damn. All right, Mike, this is fucking great. It's been great, dude. I'm really happy we can make it happen. Yeah, precious cargo. We definitely need them. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. All right, Mike, this is fucking great, dude. It's been great, dude. I'm really happy we can make it happen. Yeah, for sure. I don't know when you're back in New York, but let's do it again. Hell yeah, buddy.
Starting point is 01:37:52 I'll put all your stuff in the beginning later, but once again, Fearless and Far is the YouTube channel and the Instagram. Yep. You're doing cool shit. Yeah. It's like. Thanks, man, you too.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Just seems fun. It is fun. Yeah. Oh, I mean, I, I'm hoping for you do this for a lot longer and then disappear in a jungle. Just die at like marry a pig woman and just become like blue. I will, you know, I'm blue eyes or maybe blue eyed fucking pig. Me. So you're like, what? Like this guy, my core. You'll be traveling in the Congo and you'll see like a half white, half black baby. And you'd be like, Oh, Mike was here.
Starting point is 01:38:30 Something's up. Yeah. All right, buddy. Thank you very much. Bye everybody. Thank you. Bye. Thank you. Subscribe to his stuff. You guys are gonna follow it. It's crazy. Yeah. Well, that's it everybody. That's, Oh, I have this shirt too, but it's not, oh shit, it's not available anymore. The Feidlberg shirt from my special America's Sweetheart now streaming on Netflix. Anyone who's here and doesn't know me as a comic, who's just a fan of Fearless and Far,
Starting point is 01:38:59 I'm a standup comedian, I guess I should tell you that. I have a special called Jew that's on YouTube, that's really good. And my latest special called America Sweetheart on Netflix, also really good. And then there's other ones out there too that are not as good. So I'd start with those two.
Starting point is 01:39:18 Also still funny, but not as good. You get what I'm saying. Thank you very much. Don't forget to check out Fearless far on Instagram. Please follow him. Reach out to him. Tell him you had a good time on the episode and go to one of his travel excursions. It's, it seems so cool. Tribal rights, Toronto, Costa Rica, and Mexico, Toronto at the end of July, Costa Rica,
Starting point is 01:39:43 end of October and Mexico beginning Toronto at the end of July, Costa Rica end of October and Mexico beginning of March. I mean it just seems fucking bad ass. The Tmezcal to me is the jam. I mean I did I say this and I don't think I said this. I went so I there was a Tmezcal in this hostel I stayed in Guatemala on this in this hostel. I mean I got to cover the episode. It's coming actually It's coming with my Australian friend. We did it in and I should I should put this out relatively soon We did it on Gold Coast Australia but it was about the trip he and I took to the small town in Guatemala
Starting point is 01:40:20 But he told me about a hostel in this mountain, I'm sorry, in this volcano town, I mean a lake town. That was so fun, they had an open mic. I guess I'll get into it another time. But if you did a talent, you get free shot of vodka. People were juggling, people were doing everything. I told a story that I put on my first album. And they didn't know I was a comedian.
Starting point is 01:40:46 It was pretty fucking great. Anyway, go to FearlessandFar.com, no, let me finish up with this. And so at this hostel, yeah, it was like two minutes in, they were like, oh, is this supposed to be funny? Because there was no context. And then they start giggling, and like, I don't know if I should be giggling.
Starting point is 01:41:00 He sounds like it was really distressing. I can't, because it's not on a comedy show. And then they just started dying laughing. And then like 30 minutes later, they were like, do you have any more stories? I was like, I could tell another story. They didn't know I'm a high level comedian. I think we talked about this on an episode
Starting point is 01:41:16 of Skeptical Tank with the deep diver. Free diver. Skeptical Tank of my old podcast. Anyway, but they had a temezcal on the property of this hostel, of my friend's favorite hostel. And it was out of service. But that was okay because I was on the hunt. Had I already been?
Starting point is 01:41:43 And maybe I'd already been. I had already been. To a thing called a Shukh. Shukh. It's another type of temezcal which is like a sauna. But they only use it in a very small region. It's not even like, temezcal in general I think are like like
Starting point is 01:42:00 maybe Chapas in Guatemala. I don't know if they even go down into El Salvador. I don't know if they even go down into El Salvador. I don't know if they go up to Belize. I don't think they, I don't know. I don't know how far they reach, but this truck is very regional. So it was like the North, um, in like a mountain town in Guatemala in a town that like, nobody really goes. They had some tourism.
Starting point is 01:42:21 It kind of dropped off when some tourist was taking pictures of kids and then the townspeople thought they were trying to like fuck these kids and like take pictures of them for back home to see which one is the take. So they killed him and then they burned the Guatemalan driver alive. Really, if you're gonna burn someone, you wanna do it alive.
Starting point is 01:42:40 If you just burn the body, we're not even talking about that. It's like saying he drugged him against his will. Yeah, he drugged him. You don't have to say that against the will. I know, I'm aware. Who's wrong, by the way? Anyway, yeah, I had to go find this thing. I'll do it in a whole episode,
Starting point is 01:42:57 but it's like, it's the middle of nowhere. There's a hotel, I think the hotel costs like $7 a night, and it was overpriced. The bathroom was deep outside into the into like the hallway There was no lights so you're like in the dark dodge like piles of dog shit on Your way to the bathroom with like a trickle shower and dumping was like, uh Forget it and you dumped you dumped if you're eating that fried chicken every day You dumped, you dumped if you're eating that fried chicken every day.
Starting point is 01:43:27 But that chouc was very interesting. I was about to leave as soon as I got. I was like, I'll get the last bus home. And then I'm like, no, I'm in a town where nobody is. It was so fucking wild. I mean, it's like nobody, I mean, only whites. And I was there during the World Cup and we're like, wherever is inviting me in,
Starting point is 01:43:44 as you pass by like any kind of store Look, come on in. You're watching. Come on in They all love messy even though they were Guatemalan I got a Kurt. I got a postcard from Derek P have so far. Oh, I know what this one is You put some more shit in here Hold on Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Here's one. Uh, Ari Shafir, you be trippin. One five one first avenue number 49 New York,
Starting point is 01:44:13 New York, one zero zero zero three. No return address. Smart. Uh, ooh. So I see why there's no, what is this? Is this a postcard? Or is this your actual family? Dear Ari, where to bloody start? Oh my god, I'm gonna need a fucking whatever for this. He put some money in here, which is crazy. Let's see if I can see what this is. It's a coin. Monaco. Oh, that's the, that's the royal family of Monaco. Check this out.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Oh, there we go. Coins. We're don't send coins too much, but check that out. Wow. Pretty cool. Don't send coins, send bills like this guy did a Saudi Arabian monetary agency won. Don't know what that's worth. I think one Filipino slave, dear Ari, where to bloody start? So here's the postcard. I think that's gotta be, that's not his family, right? That's gotta be the royal family of Monaco.
Starting point is 01:45:27 I know what I'll do. This is probably a mistake, but let's do it. It's, you're so fucking small, bro. Well, full card, I suppose. I'm a 27-year-old British bloke working as a officer on board a... Dude, this is too small. Superboat called Zenobia, the Syrian princess.
Starting point is 01:45:51 Based here in Monaco, Monte Carlo. I've listened to you and skeptic tank since I was around 16. Nice, I raised you, I raised you. And I fucked your mom. Anytime you have been playing in my AirPods and I traveled from Columbia to California over a year, Cali was, I don't know, you've been,
Starting point is 01:46:19 dude, I know you wanna push stuff in, but like, you gotta make it big enough. You've been with me when I did a ski season in Val d'Alsere and when I started my career in yachting and you're with me now as I start my journey to becoming a yacht broker. Oh, one percenters. Hit me up if you want to buy a yacht or charter a yacht.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Come to Monaco or Nice or Colentry, Europe rules, America drools. All right, very nice. Yeah, that's gotta be the royal family, right? Bert is a fat fuck. Okay. God damn, dude, that was too small. Legitimately, that was too small.
Starting point is 01:47:06 Okay, here we go. Here's another one. This'll be fun. Oh, more, oh, oh, okay. Note on back, okay. So this is a letter, but he wrote some, check that out. My friends and I have been going on surf vacations
Starting point is 01:47:24 to Central America for a couple years. We have been to Nicaragua, nice, isn't that dangerous? It's dangerous to say quickly around. Reverend, Costa Rica, El Salvador, and Puerto Rico. I have been collecting bits from these trips, bills from these trips, and I think your show is a perfect place to send a few. Thank you for introducing me to Rolf Potts, the vagabonds way.
Starting point is 01:47:50 What if it's in the frame? The other one too, souvenirs up there. I've been done my way to implement his teachings on my trips, it has changed how I view travel. Yours truly, Charles. P.S. I am the bald one. Okay, very nice. And you sent some fucking cash.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Oh wow. De las soluelos. Look at that. What a fun time they're having. I mean, it's the middle of nowhere. Oh God, I'm so jealous of Oh god. I'm so jealous you guys So fucking jealous you guys and he sent cash Costa-Rican money a one meal I actually
Starting point is 01:48:37 Do I have one of those up there I Do I have this exact bill up there so I'm not gonna put that up but check this out a 200 Bank of Nicaragua definitely don't have that it's going on the wall you guys might see it starting well next week is before that wall was that finished so you won't see it next week. Oh that's cool. Let me do one postcard postcard. Here we go. Here we go. Good writing here. UB Trippin 151 First Avenue. Oops. Number 49 New York New York 1003 United States of America. This was sent from Finland. Interesting. Check out the stamp love these Okay, so by the way you guys I've narrowed down to a list of about 15 people that I'm sending on a trip around the world
Starting point is 01:49:34 11 minutes I gotta wrap this up I'm reaching out you can stop submitting. We've gotten a few I'm gonna then now talk to you guys and be following up So look for it by the way subscribe wherever you're watching or listening. Just hit subscribe right now, do me a favor. If everyone just subscribed, I would get to my 200,000 right now. Even the people that are barely listening still. I'd be right there. Just do it.
Starting point is 01:49:53 A-boom. I'm gonna start talking to them and seeing who's actually available to do this and who can do it the right way and then like choose from there. Hi Ari writing you from Finland. My journey so far has been, that's pretty cool. Oh, I didn't show you the postcard. It's gotta be a town square. Reminds me of an Ottawa town square where I came in from the bottom up. Um,
Starting point is 01:50:23 saw these a couple right there and then I was like, saw these, a couple right there. And then I was like, Oh shit, like I'm scared. And then I realized I was actually on mushrooms and I was the drug addict and they should be scared of me. And it reassured me. Hi, I'm writing you from Finland. My journey so far has been Berlin, crack out, Warsaw, Kansas. Almost definitely not. Uh, Riga, in crack out Warsaw, Kansas? Almost definitely not.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Riga, Tulum, Helsinki over the past three weeks. Jesus. Heading now to Pittsburgh tomorrow where I saw you live last year. Pittsburgh is fucking rules, not Pittsburgh, it's Homestead or something. It's one of those improvs that are like right outside of a town.
Starting point is 01:51:11 It's at least closer, but God, I wanna be in towns. They put me in Berlin in a place that was like 35 minutes away. Berlin is the coolest city in the world, and they stuck me in a place where all the Turks live by a lake, I mean miles out of town. Put me in a place where all the Turks live by a lake I mean miles out of town put me in fucking Frankensburg. Thank you for the laughs and the pod to get me excited to travel yours truly Abigail oh it's female female writing
Starting point is 01:51:40 interesting I've never been to Finland I would like to go to Finland. It seems cool. I got to do this one. Where did that one go? I mean, I can't be this fucking scatterbrained. All right, guys, I guess we got to stop next week. Oh wait, today's episode of you be trippin is produced by your mom's house network. Um, uh, huh. Uh, huh. And where's my pen, my knife, but I just by your mom's house that was edited by Alan Kathy there's an expert editor God this looks like a such a fucking cool surf trip look at these guys look
Starting point is 01:52:20 at these guys just buds having a fucking blast on the beach Look at him Just go and surfing go and surfing go and surfing you'll take your car to work I'll take my board and When you're out of fuel, I'm still afloat All along the undertow. I know I don't know the lyrics. Strength beneath my something. He taped this up.
Starting point is 01:52:54 There's shit in here. Ah, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Now I can never go home. You'll take your bro. Oh, and there's drugs in here. Ooh, Nelly. Please do not send drugs. Wow, there is money.
Starting point is 01:53:16 There's, I mean, dude, you taped this up so much. Pretty good job though. Pretty fucking cool. Who sent this? And what is this? Indonesia. I mean, that's for sure good on the wall. Dear Ari, go fuck yourself. I'll allow it. Great start. Feeling the love now. Great start. Feeling the love now. No going back. My wife and I shocked you're married. Um, or something on open ended adventure in February and this year,
Starting point is 01:53:55 uh, selling our cars, possession of going on a, selling our cars, possession eventually. Wow. Our house. Wow, bro. That's so fucking cool. I mean then you're committed to it. By the way, can I just say some advice, if you're like wondering if you should go on a trip, forget Mike Corey's, forget Fearless and Far, you're not doing a trip like that. You're just not gonna.
Starting point is 01:54:14 But maybe his travel excursion, his tribe stuff, whatever it's called. Tribal rights. Or maybe it's just like my friend, Alexandru from Romania, who said, it's like I wanna go to Thailand. I'm like, get the ticket. And he just got the ticket.
Starting point is 01:54:31 He goes, well now I'm going. I got the ticket. Now I'm gonna go, because I have the ticket. So the online card is actually eventually our house, searching for a new home and traveling around the world. We are wrapping up in a couple weeks, a seven month trip. Jesus, this guy goes that ends in South stamp this stuff
Starting point is 01:54:53 South Luraya start in Iceland for a South Korea and starts in Iceland for a friend's birthday. Can't write over the fucking what's on there for in Southeast Asia, merchant Japan. We're going to, to, to Florida for a couple of weeks, then off to central and South America for seven more months. This guy's living it. What a cool wife too, to go with them. I never get man, Someone to drain that cock. Being middle-aged dinks and long-term travel.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Since we're young, we're fucking exactly. You're young. Go for it. Uncomfortable, challenging and rough. It has been, it's so through experience what we something so interesting, challenging to experience what we have so far. I'd love to share some stories with you sometime. You be tripping has been a slight inspiration for me. Here's some money for you. PS I gave you COVID in Orlando. I did get COVID in Orlando.
Starting point is 01:56:02 I did get COVID in Orlando. I mean better than fucking what happened to Sagitt in Orlando Buddy oh, oh, there's four bills Look at this postcard Indonesia and Japan If you want to send one send into 151 first Avenue number 49 New York, New York 1003 and Here's the fucking Indonesia one
Starting point is 01:56:38 I've been to Indonesia. I don't remember that upon stamp fucking full-on Nippon stamp. There's the address. Let's see what we got and then we'll call it. Indonesia. Definitely don't have that. I definitely do not have any Indonesian money. Wow. Okay. Malaysia. I definitely don't have Malaysian money. Fucking cool. This, why does it look a dong? Vietnam. Do I have any dong? I may or may not have dong. And then Thai bot I definitely have. Yeah. 20 ThaiBot, I recognize that. So this 20 ThaiBot you could get,
Starting point is 01:57:28 it's pretty nothing, fair enough, don't send me something good. You could definitely get a beer with that. Point six zero United States, oh yeah, you could get a beer with a fucking 20. Dude, you just sent me a fucking, you know what? I'm gonna go have a, I'm gonna go have, maybe I'll get a, what's the Thai beer?
Starting point is 01:57:50 Anyway, guys, that's the episode. I hope you enjoyed it. Next week, Carmen Lynch comes on to tell us about traveling into the jungles of Peru to try Ayahuasca for the first and only time. It was a crazy experience, it's crazy getting there. It was so fucking authentic and weird. And if you've ever wanted to know about trying Ayahuasca,
Starting point is 01:58:10 she shares as much of the process as possible. Hides what she needed to hide. And it was just so fucking cool. That's it. I'll see you guys next week. Yeah, this fucking podcast is great. I love it so much. If also if you have any suggestions on who to bring in,
Starting point is 01:58:31 like I said, people suggested Patrick Beverly, he's coming in. They suggested John Ronson, a well-known writer that I've followed, I've read his book, one of his books. I've listened to his podcast series. He came in already, he was great. Other guys are doing it, trying to reach out.
Starting point is 01:58:47 Anyone you suggest, I'm reaching out to them. Like, that could be cool. I don't do politics, so anyone who's political, they can come in, and we just don't talk about politics. Look at the Tucker Carlson episode we did. Yeah, anybody you suggest that you know, so Patrick Beverly, somebody's like, he played in Israel, he played in Greece,
Starting point is 01:59:04 he played in the West, okay, so he's traveled, great. Beverly somebody's like he played in Israel played in Greece played in the world Oh, okay. So he's traveled great. You know that leave it in the comments on YouTube This guy's been here. This guy's been here and then listen most guys. I'm mid-level thing So most guys don't know me but sometimes they do and when they do it's like sick They're like, oh, yeah, I know you I'd love to come in if they're coming in New York So leave suggestions you guys are helping this a lot. That's it everybody. Hope you enjoyed it. Fearless and far.
Starting point is 01:59:26 Thank you again. Please come back. See you guys on the road. Safe travels.

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