You Be Trippin' - Trippin On Ayahuasca In Peru w/ Carmen Lynch | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir

Episode Date: May 26, 2025

Follow Carmen on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/carmencomedian/?hl=en SPONSORS: -Get started at https://factormeals.com/ TRIPPIN50OFF and use code TRIPPIN50OFF to get 50 percent off plus FREE shipping on your first box. -Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at https://shopify.com/trippin On this week's episode of You Be Trippin', Carmen and Ari get really trippy deep in the Amazon jungle. Like three modes of transportation, 2 hour river boat ride, deep in the Amazon. Carmen talks about her experience taking a solo trip to Peru, where she goes to take ayahuasca with a group of strangers. She goes on a special Amazon ayahuasca diet, learns about the medicinal plants of the jungle, and has a couple side quests along the way. Ari also exchanges his own experience doing ayahuasca in the jungle. Huq kutikama! You Be Trippin' Ep. 68 https://www.instagram.com/arishaffir https://www.instagram.com/youbetrippinpod https://store.ymhstudios.com Chapters 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:18 - Carmen's Calling to Peru 00:06:58 - Beginning of Ayahuasca Experience 00:23:05 - The Trip 00:43:54 - Nature & After Effects 00:55:54 - Lessons Learned 01:04:00 - Back to Civilization 01:14:45 - More Travel Adventures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Thanks for doing it, by the way. Sure, thank you. It's nice to talk to a real ayahuasca person. Yeah. A shaman. Okay. Where you been and where you going? This is Ari's Travel Show, yeah.

We're going to talk about travel today. It's Travel Show. Yeah, we're going to talk about travel today. It's UB Trippin'. Yeah. Hello, everybody. Welcome to UB Trippin'. My guest today, oh, this is a travel podcast.

We go to one new place every episode. My guest today is the person who really helped me start this podcast. Not intentionally, but I had her in my head when I was thinking of how to do it because she's such a great traveler. Um, really one of the best in the comedy world. Uh, Carmen Lynch and she, uh, has a new special out called Queef Week right now on youtube.com on Mark Norman's YouTube account. It's hilarious. You should go check it out Queef Week. But, uh,

but really I'm here to talk to you about travel and we're gonna go today to. The jungle. To the jungle, to Peru. And the Amazon, I believe, is different than Peru or Ecuador or. Oh my God, the jungle of the Amazon. Oriente, Amazonia, it's like its own country.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you can check out Carmen, CarmenComedian on Instagram. She's amazing. Let's just get into it. All right. Okay, so where, first of all, why, what, let's, Peru. Okay, so yeah, so I've never done drugs besides weed. Really?

So I was like, you know how they say, and it sounds cheesy to people who've never done ayahuasca, but you're like being called to do it. Like I've heard that several times. It's calling you to do it. And it's not like I wake up and I'm like, ah, ayahuasca. But I did feel something. I want to do this.

I know for sure. And then a friend of a friend had just started talking about this amazing place in Peru. And I knew immediately. I'm like, that's the place. I feel it. I'm going. You felt it.

I felt it. You felt connected to it. And so I was like, I'm like, that's the place. I feel it, I'm going. You felt it. I felt it. You felt like connected to it. And so I was like, okay, so I bought a ticket to Lima and then you go on this small flight to Iquitos. Was anyone on the flight gonna go with you? No, I was like alone and I kinda wanted to go alone but then I was also told like be careful because these small Peruvian places, like they're not,

they're just different. Yeah. But you travel. I travel, but it reminded me of India. You have to be careful. Right. Right. Right. I stand, I'm six feet tall. I'm white. So they're like, Hey lady, you know, constantly, constantly. I mean, I stuck out. Yeah. Hey boss, hey boss, hey boss, right? Boss, right? Or no, the, what are those, little rickshaws? They were just like, you know, those little bikes

that they have with the, like, get in! Yeah. You speak Spanish, right? I do, but once I tried it the first day, once I started speaking Spanish, they would not leave me alone. So I was like, no Espanol, like I just acted like an American. That's what I did for Hebrew class. Their eyes lit up and they were like, ah,

and I was like, I'm not doing that again. So, Hey, do you know, does your Spanish Spanish in South America put you like at a higher class? If I spoke it to them, they might feel something, but I don't, they would think that maybe. Yeah, they'd be like, where are you from? Spain, oh, I noticed your lisp. You have a lisp, you know?

But you know what's interesting is when. Like, Vale, all right, who the fuck are you? Vale, Vale, Vale. But they, it's funny, once you get to Iquitos, they're like, ah, you are here for ayahuasca, hey? No, really. Cause they know why Westerners come to this town. Wow.

So even that, they were like, ah, don't do it. They were like, people die. They were scaring the shit out of me. I had to call my friend of a friend and be like, am I gonna die? Because everyone, I think they just don't want, they don't want white people. They don't want Westerners in their town or something.

I don't know. But they were like, you're gonna lose your mind. So this is, okay. So then I took from Iquitos, I took a two hour bus ride. Great. And then a two hour boat ride on the Amazon. So now you're in the middle of the jungle in this like place with like cabins in the jungle.

Any, by the way, any place you say by accident, you want to just like, hey, can you just stick that out? Take it out. Yeah, just say it. Yeah, yeah. It's fine. Oh no, that's fine. You don't have to remember it later.

Just like right then you can say it. Okay. It's fine. All right, all right. Okay. So don't worry about it is my point. Okay, cool. So, but yeah, I felt uneasy until I got to the bus stop and I saw other people going to do ayahuasca. And then you felt more. And then I was like, are you here for that thing?

And they're like, yes. And I'm like, oh my God. Other whites. Other whites, yeah. And I hate to say that, but it's true. I use whites meaning tourists. Okay. Yeah. Cause they're just generally nothing, but yeah. So it's like, it's just a fun way to say it. But I mean, we, we all stuck out. It was like Australians and mostly people from like middle America, the Midwest, and then me, there were like 10 of us going to the jungle to do this.

So we stuck out, you know, in this town. Was there, so how long did you get like acclimated to Latin America first before you were like, all right, let's go do drugs. I was there for two days or day and a half. Wow. Yeah. And then they were also saying like at the Lima airport, they were like, don't leave the airport. It's not safe. So I stayed in the airport for eight hours

because Peru. Yeah, no Lima is the capital of Peru. So right in the coast. So they were like, before I took that small plane, they were like, you got to go in inland to the coast. So they were like, before I took that small plane, they were like, don't leave. You got to go inland to the Amazon. Then you got to go inland. Oh yeah. And then you got to take the bus ride and the boat ride. And now you're surrounded by the other people doing the ayahuasca, so you feel like, okay, at least I don't have this feeling alone.

Yeah. You know? It's scary. It's scary. It's scary. The journey to the jungle was probably just as scary as the ayahuasca. Do you get, when you go to another place, do you immediately get like, like shit? What's everybody like, like scared? Well, the guy in charge was laughing at me cause he's like your eyes.

He's like, you're so expressive and you're tall. And you were like, I was supposed to like, say his name was like Peter. And I knew that I was supposed to meet a Peter, right? And, and then he came up to me and he goes, I'm Peter. And he said, your face changed.

You were like, Oh my God, it's Peter. Oh, it's going to be okay. Like, because it's scary. Yeah. You know, once I found him, I was like, it's gonna be okay. You know? This is a recommendation from a friend, this place? Yes, a friend of a friend who'd gone twice.

And then that person was like, oh I got a spot for you. Yeah, and he, I trust him with my life. He's not a comic, he's just someone I know from my past. That's a good way to say it. You gotta trust him with that, he's not a comic obviously. He's someone I know from my past. That's a good way to say it. You gotta trust him, he's not a comic obviously. A civilian with a real job, and he's got a family, everything.

So I'm like, that guy did it twice, he came here. I'm like, I'm good. It's not drugs. I mean, it's definitely a thing, but it's not drugs. No, but a lot of people had done it, and they'd done shrooms and acid and all this stuff and they're like, how is it that you've not done anything? And I, this is so naive, but I didn't know

that like mushrooms and all of that were like, psychedelics were like medicinal. Like I thought you just saw like purple cows flying and orange stars and clowns. And people there were like, no, you can learn so much from LSD. And I'm like, why the fuck did I never do this? Well, I think LSD is an interesting one

because it's definitely newer, you know? Yeah. It's like in the last century. Yeah. Half, I guess. But now I wanna do everything. Like there was a guy there who's done San Pedro and all that stuff.

But the other stuff, Mushroom San Pedro, what's the cactus one? Is that San Pedro? That's San Pedro, I think. Okay. Yeah. It's all like shamanistic from like North American Indians versus like South American Indians. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. It's all used in like, so everything I saw in like the museums and stuff were like, their shaman were just like another like a warrior class. Okay. Of just like spiritual war. But it's, it's just all fascinating to me and uh,

and the fact that it's medicinal, I was like, I felt the medicine like some of it immediately. It really, and then some of it to this day. They're like, when you go home, months from now, you will still feel changes. And that is so true. But that's because, I think that's because I did it five times, you know? Five times.

Yeah. Two on, one off, three on, how'd you? It was three nights in a row, and then one off, and then two more. What kind of place did you stay in? In it's in the jungle. Like it's in a like little log cabins. Okay. And you go on a special diet, no air conditioning.

So you go, that's why I went in September cause it was hot, but it wasn't like awful. And they were like fan. You could bring your own fan and stuff. But you go on a special diet to cleanse your body for the whole week. So it's like, no alcohol, no coffee, obviously, but there's like, you know, no coffee, that's right. No coffee. No sauce. Like plain dried up chicken, which was amazing though because the chicken was alive like an hour ago. So it's like fresh. You'd be like, there's that chicken we're having for dinner tonight. But then every,

you didn't have to do the diet. So like people had sauces. And chicken was allowed pork, not allowed pork, not allowed. So we just had eggs and chicken and dried up fish. That was hard. And plain rice. That was it for the whole week. Like I lost, I gained some weight back, but I lost like 10 pounds. Wow.

Like I came back and my mom was like, what the fuck? And I wouldn't tell her. I was like, I just went on a retreat. And she, I mean, she wouldn't even understand what ayahuasca is, but, but then you have to stay on, you know, off the, like afterwards 30 days, no sex, 30 days, no alcohol. This is interesting to me to hear about it. Cause I think it's tribe to tribe what they tell you to do. Well the other thing that I've found interesting about this diet is that if there were like

10 or 11 of us, like maybe three or four of us did the diet, that's it. You could choose to do the diet. And the reason for the diet was you will feel the ayahuasca more intensely. So me having done nothing, I was surprised the other people who had done ayahuasca didn't go on the diet because why wouldn't you want to feel more? So I went on this like diet, oh fuck yeah,

give me the diet, give me all this shit. But beforehand or during? The decision was beforehand. So that means you already started cleansing yourself? Yeah, but not the dry chicken and all that, it was just like no alcohol for a week before or something. It was barely anything. But once you're there,

yeah, we couldn't brush our teeth with toothpaste. Because chemical. Because you had to brush without anything on it. You can't like, you showered. That's actually kind of nice though. I know, it's kind of, and then you can't shower with only water. But that first, it's everything like that first sandwich

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July 12th. That's it. Both at AriShafeer.com. I got merch up on my merch site. Grinders, vinyls, t-shirts, stickers are coming. And that's it. Anyway, let's get back to the episode. So there's on mushrooms, everyone talks about like, I don't know, like certain like sex or shit like that afterwards or jerking off, which I always say like,

jerk off before you go to sleep. After you take mushrooms, it's like a whoa, but that shower is so good. Yeah, and it's so hot there and they, if you were on the diet, they recommended showering three times a day, which is basically just water. Yeah. Because you're, and the other thing is,

if you're on this diet, you had to drink this special tea. So they would show you the trees in the, cause you're in the jungle. So they would show you the trees that are going into the ayahuasca liquid. Yeah. And separate. Show you the trees. Like they'd be like, okay, this kind of tree does this, this kind of tree does that. We're putting all of those in with the vine, with the ayahuasca. So what's the ayahuasca? What's that do? So it's the, I mean, I don't know the terms, but ayahuasca is mixed with something to make it. The vine is mixed with something to make it ayahuasca.

They would add extra bark from other things to make it more potent. And if you were on the diet every day, early before the ceremony, so three or only three or four of us would drink this special tree bark tea that was fucking amazing. So, and you could tell. Tasted good. It was good, but after every day it was like, it was thicker because it just sat in the bark. So by the last day it was like tree mush

But I was like this is for you know, it's all medicinal. It's good Just take it and I love that too like the discipline they're like you can't do this and you can't do this It kind of makes you feel empowered You know, you're like, oh I can't do that and then uh, and then it's your decision to do it You're not just out of it. No, it's totally your decision. You're like, I'm going without. But then when the ayahuasca ceremonies happened, the people who were on the diet,

you could tell that they were getting more of an intense ceremony because of the tree diet. Yeah. Of that tree bark that they were drinking. What I gathered was the ayahuasca's not what makes you trip. And the ayahuasca is not what makes you trip. And the ayahuasca is what cleans you out and then allows whatever is in the other

stuff. Yeah. I mean, I believe that. So yeah, I don't really know the signs. I don't know if it's DMT, like in like, you know how there's that in everything. Yeah. Like grass and like deer and everything. Yeah. So I thought it was the ayahuas it cleans you out and then the, the DMT or whatever that thing is in whatever they mix it with is what gets you fucking. I mean that what I don't understand that either. Like whatever people say.

No. Yeah. So, but basically once you have the, the liquid or whatever, cause it's not even liquid, it's like, it's like, it almost tastes like really bad coffee grinds. Didn't you find it was like. The stuff that's stuck to drink. The drink. It's like, it's like, it almost tastes like really bad coffee grinds. Didn't you find it was like the stuff that's up to drink, it's disgusting, it's disgusting. And there were, it was funny, there were two other girls that I hung out with the most there. They would, they would gag like that. And they

couldn't do it. And they were like, you guys have to do it. Just drink it. And speaking English to you or Spanish? I'm English. Everybody spoke English, yeah. Except for the shaman, he didn't speak English. Spoke what, Quechua? Quechua, Spanish, yeah. So he added his translator person.

That was my thing, I was like, your second language is Spanish, and mine also. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like we're gonna barely communicate here. Yeah. Like, we're going to like barely communicate here. Yeah. No, but, um, but everyone, yeah, everyone there except, yeah, everyone there spoke English and, uh, and that stuff got thicker by the, by the end of the week, the Ayahuasca liquid, I don't even know what to call it.

Because he made the batch, the potion. He made it the first for like a big potion, a big potion for that first, he made it that first the potion? He made it the first. For like a big potion for everybody. A big potion for that first, he made it that first night or that first day. Wow. And then by the end of it, it was like, ooh, it was so gross. What was he dressed like?

Like regular. Jeans and a t-shirt? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But the, did you have like Icaro and everything? What is that? The singing and the blowing, that's so fascinating. The blow smoke in your face?

Yes. Did they do the tobacco, snorting tobacco? Yes. Yeah, that was a weird one. The person I was with asked for, I wish I had a re-up on the tobacco. Yeah. Like three hours in, like can I get some of that tobacco?

And they're like, sure. Well everyone, it's so funny, like everyone, even the people like. Because it gets you fucking wired. Yeah, people were smoking and, and, and what, it was like a special cigarette. And I was like, if I do this, I know I'll just get hooked. So I'm not going to do it.

Afterwards, I was, he was like, don't do this. Don't do that. You know, don't eat pork. Don't eat whatever. And I was like, okay, can we have this? There was a Vulcan, like a, like a fish ceviche vulcan from that area, just from that town. He goes, no, there's all these chemicals in that stuff. It's got chips and stuff on it.

And we're like, oh, but it's just fish. But the chips are what the problem is. We're like, okay, can we have kui? And he goes, I don't know about kui. What's kui? Guinea pig. Oh, wow. He goes, I'm actually not sure.

Everything else is like yes, no, yes, no. And I was like, what about a cigar? And I'm thinking he'd be like, no fucking way. He goes, yeah, obviously. I'm like, what? Why? He goes, it's tobacco, it's a sister drug. And I was like, oh, we just have it as a bad thing to do.

So we did all this botany exploration there. And so some of the people just were at farms, was like, let me show you what all these plants do. Yeah. It was like, this was good for circulation and then they totally smack you with it and you're like, where is that? And then all of a sudden you start tingling. Your whole arm starts tingling. The best one, um, was this one's for period cramps. And it's like, how do you know? Like, how do you guys know this? And he goes, look at it.

And he takes the leaf and turns it over. It looks like it's been dipped in blood. Weird. Yeah. Well, we went on this. And he's like, it's just all been cultivated by generations before. But that's why somebody had asked, well, how did they know how to make ayahuasca? And the first person.

Because it's a certain, like, it's a big deal. Like, you have to sit there and boil it and whatever. And they were like, the spirits showed them how to make it. Yeah. But how did they even get, I mean, it's us like, what's, what's generations. We went on this massive nature hike after the fifth day because they wanted us to see the trees that we had drank. Yeah. And it was exactly what you said. They'd be like, okay, this one does blah, blah, blah.

And they'd be like. This was a snake bite, how do you know? I was like, look, it looks like fangs. And you're like, it does look like fangs. But it would be like, because we also had group shares every day after the ceremony. Yeah.

So like say you were in the group share and you had talked about, I don't know. Group share, really, interesting. Fascinating. Yeah. And you didn't obviously didn't have to share, but everyone shared. About what they saw. About what they saw because they kept it in the circle. Like, you know, just they kept it there. He said that was okay. But also, and you, you don't have to say everything like, but you could say as much as you want.

And, and that was fascinating because say like you were dealing with, I don't know, memory issues, you know, like you had to block memories. Then later on the hike, they'd be like, okay, that tree over there, Ari, that tree helped you deal with seeing those things because that tree is really good with memory. Like, so you connected with the trees and you found the one that kind of, I don't know, you connected with the most. It's hard to explain, but the shaman knew because he's been drinking for so many years.

Like they drink with you at the ceremony. Yeah, and so he's fucked up. You're like, hey, I need some advice here. And he's like, I'm fucking trying. But they basically, they said that when they drink it that much, they don't get effects like that. They only drink a little bit, but they don't get as it's almost like drinking beer. So long. I heard this. Yeah. I heard that if you want to shaman somebody on whatever,

that's the wrong word. But if you want to like help somebody on mushroom trip, the ideal mushroom trip or acid trip is a few guys, heavy dose, hero doses, and then one guy with a small dose and then one guy doing nothing. So the guy with the small dose is the go-between. He's not gonna get fucked up and floored, but he's like, well I can talk to you though, but I'm on the shit, you're on, so I can meet you halfway.

See now I'm so fascinated to do all of them. I'm shocked you haven't done anything before, because it, to me, was so similar to mushrooms, but like an explosive new level. That's what people were saying. They're like, ayahuasca is like the mother of all drugs. Like before it really kicked in, I'm like, this is similar, but even stronger than mushrooms,

but that's before it really kicked in. Yeah, when it starts to kick in, I remember my friend of a friend was like, just go in with your intention, like no resistance, no resistance. And you're sitting there, because if you block it, you can kind of block what happens.

You have to just let it go. And you're like, just let it go, no resistance. And I'm like, it's starting, holy shit. Like I can, you know, you see stuff and you're like, what the the fuck but then I found it calming To know that in like three or four hours. It's over. That's what I tell everybody about mushrooms Like it is going to end. Yeah, so if you're like is this gonna be it's just it's five hours pretty much max And you'll be back but the first night don't worry about that

If you're like it's has a guy's like the sun is not up yet, so it's not a new day, so right? So it hasn't been that much time. But it's hard to trust that with Ayahuasca if you've never done it before on that first night. It's once it's over, you're like, okay, I can go through it, cause it was hell. I mean, I fought with the devil, like, you know, not literally, but things that I saw.

Like that shit is heavy shit. My guy was like, when I threw up, that's when it kicks in. Right. Or how did you much? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The other person in my group threw up way before me and was gone. And I'm just kind of having like a mushroom trip and I'm like, not there. And then I started getting nauseous. I was like, don't throw up, don't throw up. And then I realized, no, do throw up. And then once I did, the guy was like, the guy was like, well, go ahead, what are you gonna say?

I was gonna say like the first night, I was like, nauseous, throw up, throw up. And then the other nights I was like, you know what? I find that it stays in my system longer. Cooking? If I don't throw up until I absolutely have to. Ooh, like an enema. Like just leave it in there.

I wanna throw up, I wanna throw up. Don't do it, don't do it. And then I would either like shit it out an hour later. You shit during. Oh yeah, wait, you didn't have, how many people were in your group? Projectile diarrhea, no. Oh, no, not projectile.

Like you could, see that's the other weird thing. Like if you're wasted, you're like, you could shit on the street if you're that way. I don't know. Yeah. Like, but ayahuasca, it doesn't matter how much you've done. I feel like I was like, I need to go to the bathroom. That was my biggest fear was the shitting myself. No, you could literally just be like,

I think I need to go to the bathroom. You're still conscious. Like, I should go to the bathroom. You're not shitting all over people. I didn't know what was gonna happen. I thought I was gonna run into the jungle naked and just start screaming. But you're conscious. You're over people. Like I didn't know what was gonna happen. I thought I was gonna run into the jungle naked and just start screaming. But you're conscious, you're like, this is crazy.

The shit I'm seeing right now is fucking unreal. But I'm gonna stop for a second and walk to, and you're still walking like crazy, like weird, cause it's dark and everyone around you is throwing up. But. How many people? I mean, our group was like at least 12 or 10 to 12 guys let's be honest with all these podcasts to listen

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What instructions do they give you for dealing with other people? You just, everything's dark, you have your flashlight, and you just find, there's eight toilets over there, everyone has a bucket. So you just go do your, you just do your own thing. You don't talk to anyone. And, but they, like these,

some of these places are really good about, you know, I, I've heard of groups where someone will just start screaming and dancing and trying to get attention. Attention, that'd be lame. But no one was like that in our group. My guy was like, hey, it was just two of us. It was right post-COVID, so that might have been lucky. Yeah.

Because things weren't really open. Yeah. But it was definitely a big enough place for 12, 15 people. But it was two of us. And they were like, you're on that side of the fire. Don't go to that side. That's your side. Don't talk to that side.

Yeah, don't talk to anyone. You're on this side. Don't talk to that side. Don't deal with them. You're going to hear shit. Don't even say, how you doing? Are you OK? Don't do any of that. They're on their journey. You're on your side, don't talk to that side, don't deal with them, you're gonna hear shit, don't even say how you doing, are you okay? Don't do any of that. They're on their journey, you're on your journey.

But what my guy, what he said was, as soon as I threw up, I went to the, there was an exit there and there, just like a hut, and then I saw some shit protecting it, for sure, like a veil covering the whole hut, and I was like, oh, that's how Jaguars don't get in. But like, it wasn't there. And then you're like, oh. So then I threw up, he was right there with some water,

he was like, don't drink it, just swish your mouth. You know, clear your mouth up. Swish your mouth, you can't, yeah. And he was like, I mean, I guess in Spanish, I don't know, but he was like, how you feeling? I was like, good, he's like, you having visions? And I was like, it's more mental. And he goes, okay, go back in.

He goes, fight, be strong and fight. What does that mean? Like fight what? The fucking bad spirits are coming. Really? Yeah. Interesting. He goes, you gotta fight. I don't know. You gotta fight. Did you drink it? Did you stay awake in the ceremony or did you close your eyes? So there's the, you, you, you sit in the, I mean, I'd rather get yours, but you sit in a chair,

they fucking do stuff, blow smoke on you, and eventually you drink the thing, and then it's like, all right, now go sit down. You had a little, I wouldn't even call it a yoga mat, just a little beaded mat with a shitty child's pillow. Okay. Did you have a bucket to throw up? I don't remember, but I definitely threw up outside the outside the, I bet,

I bet they did because what if I couldn't get to the outside? It'd be nice to have something like that. Oh, so if you have 12 people, I don't want to go around anybody. Yeah. That's the part where it was hard to walk like under the influence. Oh, I was definitely like, like walking. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Where am I going?

Yeah. Yeah. And they can see you like, you know, the, the assistants or whatever. The familiar I'm calling them. Yeah. So they, the familiar, so they can see you and they're like, okay, I think Carmen needs help getting to the bathroom, not like to like to you know go to the bathroom yeah but just like walking over or like there were certain colors of flashlights that

you were supposed to use like keep the red light on to not disturb people to not disturb people and not my white light kept coming on and so they would just come over and like help me but it it was one of those moments, like one of those things where I was like, I'm not gonna do this again. Like I'm gonna spend the rest of the week on my diet with my specialty and hang out in the jungle, it's amazing. And by the next night, you're like,

I need to keep going, I need to do this again. Wow. Yeah. What was the diet? Fruit? The diet was just the dry fish, the eggs and the chicken. And then you would watch everyone else eat like fruit and like, I mean the fruit in South America

is the juices are ridiculous. It's so fucking good. And I'm like, I can't, I just had water. It's all in season too. So like when we got to Ecuador, we were like, went from, why I killed a cuenca, so you had to go up this pass. And he's like, let's stop at a fruit stand.

We gotta get our dog like ready for the, for the what's it called anyway, altitude. So we had to stop every like thousand feet. The dog? Our dog was with us. So every thousand feet, you're like, kind of stop, let him walk around and then keep going.

Then every thousand, you know, so he doesn't get nauseous. Yeah. So we stopped at this fruit stand, we got mango and it was like the best mango I've ever had. I know. Literally ever had. Papaya juice.

Yeah. But then the next time we were going on the same route, we're like, oh, let's stop at that fruit stand. We're like, where are the mangoes? They're like, not seasoned. Wow. We're like, oh right. Yeah.

You can't just get everything always. It's so fucking good. The pineapple's like what the fuck? It was insane and even the eggs are darker. Deep orange. They're closer to this. Yes, they look like that. And they're so good.

Yeah and then you're like what the fuck are they feeding us here? Anyway let's not get into that. So imagine just not eating anything and then that first sandwich with like tomato, the juicy tomatoes and all that stuff. It was a huge, that was orgasmic. That was like, I hadn't eaten in a week,

except for this dried fish and chicken. So yeah, it was incredible. Did you get any sense of, I think like, modes of journey are like kind of important. And so did you feel any sort of like separation from America by taking a plane to a bus, to a boat, like you're entering into a literal new area? Well, I, they suggested don't look at your phone a lot.

So, and like make one call a day or that kind of thing. So I just checked in with my boyfriend. I told my mom that I was on a silent retreat. Smart. You know, I told, I didn't actually talk to any of my friends about it because I told like friends that I was going on a retreat. I wouldn't want anybody giving me any advice ahead of time.

Exactly, I didn't want anyone to either judge me or tell me what are you doing about, you know. So I just told my boyfriend and I think that's, and then the person who referred me. And that's it because I was like, I want to go in this with an open mind. And then it was also suggested like, if you can go alone, go alone. Because it's one of those like, I'm having thoughts. Let me journal this shit. And how much do you journal? A ton. So much, so much, so much.

And then you go a week just like in a notebook, in a notebook afterwards, a lot of like the purging is like either, you know, shitting or vomiting or crying or yawning. Like they said everything and I did, you do all of those. Like it's crazy. And then you spend the rest of the day, like you wake up in the morning and you're like, what the fuck happened?

And then you journal it and you have group session. You know, cause you have, like you remember, I wish you could journal during the ceremony, but it's so dark. I did. You did? So the person I was with was way childlike. And then they wanted to draw.

And so they're like, can you lead me back to the familiar guy that was like, can you lead me back, get my notebook? Yeah. And then I was like, hey, can I have one of those pieces of paper? Can you ask them for one? And it was just like shit that I'm like,

I don't wanna forget this. So just like, it was dark, but like I'm used to doing with this. Just like in the dark, or the concert just writing in big handwriting and just like figuring out a space. Like keywords, yeah. Yeah, tell so and so about this.

I wish I had done that the first night because the first night it was like, just this tsunami of crap that was coming out. Not literal, but like just thoughts and just so many thoughts. I didn't want it to slow me down either though with the thing. It's like, I didn't do this for the first like four

or five hours. Cause I was like, it's going from spot to spot and from sitting there writing, I thought it might like contain me. How long did the ceremony last? About seven hours. What, that's long. Yeah, my partner was gone earlier.

Okay, so these were like four. Like they would light a candle and be like, it's over. It's over. Not it's over, but like, you know, whatever they say. And then the lights, the candles would come on. And then basically you were like, oh my God. Wake up, come out of it. Come out of it, but nobody left the,

Maloka, I think they're called. It's, come out of it. Come out of it, but nobody left the, Maloka, I think they're called. It's like where you do it. It's like a hut, yeah. And nobody left for hours. And we stayed there. We stayed there and then we chatted with each other. We all became kind of close. I still talk to the people there.

Interesting. The other Ayahuasca people. You know? Yeah, for ours, I love how each of these tribes are like, we just do it different. This is the way we've always done it. Yeah. And I actually met a guy,

I was in the Amazon at just a lodge. Yeah. The week before. And we actually said, we're like, oh, I don't know if we can eat this because we're gonna do ayahuasca next week. And he was like, well when? And we're like Wednesday, he goes, oh, no you're okay today.

And it was like, he was so casual about it. And it was like, have you done it before? He's like, yeah, sure, what, everybody has. It's just like a part of life. But that's the thing, like even the shaman and the other familia people. Familiar. Familiar, yeah.

You know like vampire term? Oh, that's what they call it? No, that's what I'm using. Oh, oh, oh. But there's a name for what they call them. I can't remember what it was. But they facilitate, some of them were facilitators. They all had done it like tons of times.

Yeah, this guy was like 19, 20 times. Yeah, but even like, you know, some of the other people were like, I've done this hundreds of times. Yeah, this guy was like 19, 20 times. Yeah, but even like, you know, some of the other people were like, I've done this hundreds of times. Like, but they're only drinking, you know, that little amount to stay in the ceremony. Right. But it's not like where they're like throwing up.

Oh, it's just like a cap and a stem. It's just part of their thing to just drink this. Right. And it's fascinating. Wow, I'm actually getting an ayahuasca buzz. Just a light buzz. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Cause that's what a fun mushroom trip is. It's like, there's an alcohol version of that where it's like beer and a shot, that's it. Yeah, but isn't it? But like with mushrooms, you can do something that'll floor you, which everybody does the first time. Yeah. And then it's just like, let me just have a cap

and have fun at this party. But that was the interesting thing about doing it five times is like the first time, the first night, I was like, had no idea. So I was like, just give me whatever. Yeah. That was way too intense for me. So the second night, they were like,

just give her a cucharada, which is a spoonful. So that was like the Ayahuasca buzz. But then you're like, damn it, I wish I, you know, like I'm going to go. Let's go. I'm going to go. Let's go. Yeah. So, so that's why part of me is like, there's definitely reasons to go back to, you know, once you, I mean, I still, I'm not ready to go back, but I could see myself just I thought a year after yeah I think a year is perfect The new Mitsubishi Outlander brings out another side of you your regular side listens to classical music your adventurous side Rocks out with the dynamic sound Yamaha regular you owns a library card

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He really was like, this is so important. My job is to get people to come. Yeah. You know, like, okay. But like, he said he took his son, his son got nothing out of it because he was like 19 years old. Oh, he hadn't done 19 times. He didn't weigh more. His son was like 19. He had nothing to like purge. Yeah. He was like,

one time I didn't make the basketball team. Yeah. It was like, yeah, it was like, yeah, exactly. No, no, no, like trauma. But like, um, but like, uh, fuck, I was, but like, but like, fuck, I forgot what I was gonna say with him. Did you have any life or death, like changes of, did you feel differently about life and death after doing it? No. No?

I don't think that, I don't think I went through that. I definitely feel like there's more after life. Like I was very lights out before, like it's over. Oh, that kind of stuff. Yeah, and it was like, something's out there. Like the connection with the diet really kind of makes you see nature in a different way. And also we were in this like Maloka,

I'm telling you it's like this, like a lot of you, it's like this, this like a lot of windows. It's almost like a tent with a lot of windows and one night and you're surrounded by the jungle. So you're literally surrounded by the jungle being in it and hearing, go ahead. The birds, like the next day we would be like, was that sound, was that a monkey? And then you'd just make the sound, you know, and they're like, no, that's a pig. He comes around like, we start walked from our sleeping hut to the, to the Maloka.

And he was like, stop, listen for a second. Yeah. What do you hear? We're like, I don't know. Cause you know, when you actually pause the sound suddenly start getting bigger. So it was like, Oh river, I didn't notice it, but there's a river nearby. Yeah. What else goes some insects, some, maybe it goes, it's all going to get real loud. Yes. So just be aware that's just now it's happening. Yeah. And then one night it was incredible.

It rained so hard during the thunder during, it was the most amazing, like I couldn't get that out of my head. The, the, the four nights after that, because it was just, it was so incredible. Like the lightning and the thunder, it was so loud. I can't even tell you it's crazy. Describe the feeling afterwards of just how you feel. I don't want to get into like your personal experiences, you know, and you're, and you're like private shit, but just like,

like, yeah, I say like, I felt just cleaned out, clean. Clean, uncluttered. Uncluttered. Super, like the day after the ceremonies, extremely tired. Like, I don't know if, cause we went in with intentions, like every night you had to go in with an intention So and not everyone has the same intent like for me

I went there for like medicinal purposes and other people were like I just want to have fun So and and nobody obviously judges But some of those guys had done it before and they're like I just want to fucking you know loosen up And and I was like, I don't know what's happening, but I, oh and I also, I went off my antidepressants, Zoloft, so I don't know if I was feeling. On purpose to let it hit you. Cause you couldn't, you can't do ayahuasca without it. But I was on a very low dosage of Zoloft

because I get panic attacks. How long did you go off it for? I'm still off of it, but I was on it for five years. Yeah, how long before? Oh, oh, 30, 40 days. It has to be at least a month, so I did a little extra. Should I tell your therapist ahead of time? Oh yeah.

Be like, hey. But see, nobody, it's funny, that's why I didn't tell any of my friends or anybody, because they'd be like, ayahuasca, okay. Like, no, yes or no, like'd be like, Ayahuasca. Okay. Like no, yes or no. Like no good luck, nothing. I mean, my therapist was supportive, but my- If you're going like, I'm going to Tucson,

no one goes, okay. They just go, oh cool, why are you going? Yeah. No, but my therapist was, but she wasn't like, great, go do it, but no one can really say that because they don't, a lot of people don't, have never done it. She must, she had to be careful. careful. This is drawing this for a reason.

But the shrink was kind of like the one that gave me the, the Zoloft was kind of like, you sure? Yeah. You know, did, did anyone, I'm like, somebody referred this. I trust this person wholeheartedly. Like, um, and then I was like, you know what? No one needs to know about this. Like if I die there, like I'll just die. But. I did actually have feelings of like, of like what matters in terms of your lifespan. I had like. Oh, absolutely.

Like that, that was more not like, hey, I'm cool with death, but more like, oh, we're all gonna, I mean, that's mushroom shit too, but like we're all gonna die. But then it was like, hey, what does live on is kind of more important. Yeah. There's just an uncluttered path.

Yeah. This sounds so cheesy, like, except to people who've done it, but like there's an uncluttered path between life and death. Like there's a smoother walkway. Like before, and a lot of it was fear. Yeah. But now it's like, there's a little walkway. Like before, and a lot of it was fear, but now it's like there's a little more trust to that. You know?

And there were certain things that I wanted to know, and I was like pulling the reins. I was like, I've gotten so much out of this by day five. Let me just take what I have right now, or I'm gonna fucking lose my shit. Just explode. gotten so much out of this by day five. Let me just take what I have right now or I'm gonna fucking lose my shit. Just explode. Because it was so intense.

It was so intense. It's so fucking intense. Like that's why even during the, in the preliminary, they'll be like, do you have any heart problems? Do you have high blood pressure? You know, what drugs are you taking? Because I don't think this is for everyone, you know? Interesting.

And I don't think you can even recommend this stuff. I mean, I guess you could recommend it to certain friends, but there's certain people that I'd be like, that person's gonna have a heart attack if they go. Because I thought I was gonna have a heart attack. You gotta get through that barrier, I guess. Yeah. I went off malaria medication.

Yeah. I was already off all depression meds, so that wasn't an issue, but I went off malaria medication. And then the other person that I was with was like, Intranatural shit instead of DEET. Yeah. And I think it hit them faster because of that.

Like any of the chemical barriers. Yeah. Like Zoloft. barriers, like Zoloft, or like Deet, it was just like, I don't know, like binding you, like not allowing you to let it sink in. And then it took me like an hour after they started flipping out, till I flipped out. And I think I think I had to work through more of that.

Of that whatever. That's why I really liked this diet thing because if they were like, this is gonna hit you more intensely. Well with mushrooms it's like, you should try to not eat for six, eight hours before. Okay. You should get to the point,

and the best way is like fast for 12 hours and a more doable way is like, wake up and then like have a breakfast and then do it like two, three PM where it's like, it's already been like four or five hours. I wasn't gonna eat yet anyway. Yeah. Five hours out. Not like hungry, but like, right before you're gonna get hungry, then do them and your appetite will go away anyway. Yeah. Until it wears off. Then

it roars back. Yeah, like we weren't we didn't eat for like three or four hours before the ceremony. Wow. But I think that's also because, you know, in ayahuasca you're gonna shit, like you are gonna use the bathroom. Yeah?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was weird to have so many people around you throwing up and nothing smelled. I don't know if it was like the type of, if it's just we're eating these natural foods. I'm just a receptor, just blocks, it's like, oh, maybe that's who, you weren't eating shit. You weren't eating processed foods and stuff,

but it was just like chicken, you saw them catching the, like we saw them catching the groundhog, but it wasn't for us or the whatever that, it was like a weird pig looking thing. But like, it was like a pig pig looking thing. But like it was like a, a pig, the size of a, of a dog, but small, it almost looked like a dog, but it wasn't. Okay. And um, but like, cause you were, we had their family around us. We lived with the family. So that was also really cool.

Yeah. That I I'm glad I was in the Amazon for a week and there's already a second trip there. I was there for a couple months before, but at least eight days before. And then another two days. So I really felt connected to the jungle. Like you could feel it breathing and not scared of snakes everywhere.

I'm like, I got over that after two days. So now I'm ready for the things. Totally, and even now though, when it rains, I kind of enjoy it more. Like there's just more of a nature thing, but we did get a lot of, a lot of us got stung by, they were like, they're called chiggers. Yeah.

And mosquito bites. Oh yeah. And they, the what? I'm just pointing my hat from Scotland. Oh, oh. And, but yeah, it's just like you're in, you're literally in the jungle. So you're going to get spite. There were spiders and you know, and you're, and you're sleeping in this, like,

there's nothing in the room but a mattress, you know, when you walk in and see that, are you at all like, what the fuck? Or are you just like, yep, here we go? What's your reaction to it? I'm like, yep, here we go, because I know it's like seven days. Yeah. You know, because we had a couple of days before and a couple days after that we didn't have the ceremony.

So it was like, you know what, I'm here. I brought shitty clothes that I just left there. And then even after, the first day I couldn't use toothpaste, I was like, oh my God, this is gonna be hard. Like I love brushing my teeth like a million times. What you do is just swish out your mouth. You swish out with your toothbrush, but it doesn't have anything on it.

And oh, and you couldn't wash your hands, that was hard. You couldn't wash your hands for a week. With not even water? I mean with water, but no soap. Interesting. Yeah, and you just felt like, almost like just, you got over, oh and the one thing that they did let us do is we went to like a mud, there was like a natural

like lagoon or something and you could have like a mud bath. Did you do anything beforehand in terms of, was anything like waterfalls? Like what? Anything, they took us to a waterfall and they'd be like get under it. I think it was like waterfalls. Like what? Anything. They took us to a waterfall and they'd be like, get under it. I mean, that was kind of what our mud bath thing was.

Yeah, just like, but it was all in the jungle. Yeah, that was really cool. Yeah. Just some of it seemed like hokey, but then you realize like, no, no, this was done a hundred years ago too. But see, that's why. It's not for tourists.

It's just what they do. It does seem hokey. It does. Because like, well, no, this was done 100 years ago too. It's not for tourists, it's just what they do. It does seem hokey. It does. Because like, well, but that's the thing. I'm not turning this on for you. But when you, when I heard of tree huggers in the past. I'm a tree hugger, yeah. You know, I'd be like, what are you doing, weirdo? And now I'm like, I wanna hug all the trees.

You can feel it. Yes. When you're out, especially when you go off a path, like you're on a path in the woods, okay, fine, someone's touched that during the drive. But if I see like, there's no poison ivy, let me just hop in like 20 yards in, and touch a tree that probably no one's touched this whole season at least.

And you just put your face on it, and you just, you feel this energy. God, it's so lucky. But that, I'm telling you, when you have this tea, this tea, tree tea tree tea or whatever. Like you feel it in going through your body. Like when you're thirsty, you're drinking water, you feel it going into your like. You feel when you're under the, when you're in the Ayahuasca and they start

doing the Ikaro, the singing and the, you know, you feel that like going through your body and you're like, this is real. This is like plants, you know? It's crazy. And then they're like, you'll notice stuff in your life afterwards. And it's that clarity that you're talking about that there's certain things that just feel clearer.

Like it's not like your problems are gone, but you have more, there's a, your awareness is stronger in life. It's like, do you ever see a kid, I mean like 16 to 24, you know, and then they're going through breakup, or heartbreak, and they're saying something and you're just like, ah kid, sorry,

we've all been through that. Yeah. Like I get it. You're gonna be in it for like another six months. And you'll get over it, cause we all have. But you just see it clearly. Back when you were 18, you're like, what the fuck, that bitch, or that asshole did that to you?

And then you're like, yeah, people cheat. It's just like, they didn't mean it. They're just growing. That kind of clarity in life, you know? That kind of, But it's like instant. But it's instant, that's the word. Yeah, like I'll be like, why did that happen?

Oh, because of that. The answer just comes up faster. They say it's like therapy. It's like a ton of therapy. But fast. But just like therapy, you have to deal with the shitty parts and those were not fun. I know people who've done it multiple times and they thought, they're like, oh, I get it now.

Cause they teach you like, you can maneuver your way through the really horrible parts, you know? Like you can handle it. But that first night I was like, I think I'm going to hell. Like this is the worst thing I've ever experienced. But then when you go on a different trip, they're like, I get it now, I get it now. And ayahuasca will just attack you from a different angle.

Like you did, like you've never done it before. That's what I heard. It's not, you can't be like, I got this. Ayahuasca, like it'll just happen in a completely different way. Cause I saw people there who'd done it two or three times and they were just like, what the fuck did I just do?

Like crazy. A new level. A new level. Like a repair. It really is like, this is what I say about mushrooms, and it's different, but it's similar. Mushrooms is going to take you where it wants to take you. And they're like, I just did a little bit.

What the fuck? It's not really up to you. It's just, you can guide it, but it's not really up to you. And it's like what they kept saying, it's not what you want, it's what you need. I didn't go in with any intention. I was just like, I'm intentionally not thinking about anything or even researching it.

I don't wanna know what I'm in for. It did fine. Yeah, I was like, just do what you need. I know I'm here for a reason, just do what you need to do. How much was it? It was I mean including the trip it was over 3,000. How much of that was the trip? Two. Two thousand getting there? At least two. No no no I'm sorry two was the was the retreat and and the trip I think was was like 800 but then you know you're obviously paying for a hotel like the first night I wanted to get there early

and then food and so it was, it's a sizable amount but so worth it. Yeah. One is temporary. Yeah and the experience is like, it's insane. Do you have any regrets doing it? No, no regrets. No, if anything, I'm just surprised that,

I mean, I guess like in the Western world, everyone's like, it's bad, it's bad, you know, because they wanna push. They're putting under a drugs umbrella. What? They're putting under a drugs umbrella. Yeah, and they're like, take these, take pills. Take pills instead.

But no one ever talks about this stuff. I have a feeling it's slowly gonna become a normal thing. I told Joe Rogan about it afterwards, or I told him about the Amazon in general, and about that farm where they like slap you, whatever, and the period cramps, and the back cramps, and prostate drugs, whatever. I was like, how do they know all this?

He goes, oh, and he has all the, he's like a hokey hippie from like, it was aliens, they landed and cultivated whatever. It's the Egyptians. But he's like, they had everything, and then civilizations got wiped out, and this stuff just grew. And so there would be a whole field

of just stuff for circulation. But 1,000 years after the last farmers were there, it just kind of all grows. Birds eat some, shit it out somewhere else. But he goes, Pfizer goes to the Amazon all the time. Really? And like researches that stuff. Yeah. And then just figures out how to make money off it.

Totally. I can see that. Just take the one detail of it. Well, they say like every illness has a plant, has a corresponding plant to cure you. So I mean, once you start feeling it, you're like, I believe you. Like this feels real. Like just tell me what to drink.

Would you have done anything different if you had to do it over? Like if you go back, how long ago was this? Two months. Two months ago. If you go back to like early September, to September 1st. Yeah.

And like tell yourself like, oh, don't forget to bring a hand towel. Don't forget to like whatever it is. What would you have said? That's a great question. I mean, the only thing I can think of is I wish I'd done it sooner, but I didn't know. That's out.

Yeah, I didn't know that there was so much medicinal stuff out there. Like ayahuasca, I had only heard about it as like this crazy thing where if you want to see visions, go nuts. And I'm like, well, what's the point? I didn't know it was this medicinal, you know? Yeah.

That's the only thing. And I also noticed like once you're in it, because you are conscious, you are aware. And so I had so many questions to ask, but when I was feeling the answers, you know, it was like, I'd reached a point where it was too much. Like I'm like, I gotta save this for the next trip because mentally, I'm gonna fucking lose my mind

if she tells me one more thing about this or that. You know what I mean? You're like, hold on, hold on, I gotta wrap my head around this first. Exactly. Like I'm like, let me just like leave this for, and then after the fifth night, I was like, god damn it, why isn't there a sixth night?

Like, I have so many questions after what I just learned, you know. It's interesting when they they turn the lights on, it's over, talk. Yeah. When you're on Boomers, it is like, if you turn the lights on, turn music on, turn the TV on, it's like, all right, I'm back.

Yeah. It's like, if you get to your phone, you're back. It's over for now. Right, right. You still feel a little queasy, but it's done. A little bit, yeah. But then when it's in darkness, it'll keep going. But it's interesting to have it stop. Where going. It's interesting to like have it like stop

Where it's like hey, we're all done for tonight. Well, you start feeling it light lighten up a little bit Mm-hmm. But what I noticed is like my head would lighten up and the the hallucinations would lighten up but my body was Down for the count like I was down for hours And then if you looked around I'm telling telling you, like the people who were on the special diet were still down and everyone else was like, so how was it for you tonight? And I'm like, damn, what did that do to us? Like they just had a stronger effect. You know? Yeah.

But I can see why people go back and yeah, it just makes me want to try all the other drugs out there. And your leader told you just to not share the personal stuff with anybody. Yeah. He said, they said don't. Just, uh, if you want to keep it more, uh, personal and, uh, keep that, uh, connection with Ayahuasca. It's just nice to have it stay private. Yeah, I talked about it once on a podcast,

I wish I hadn't. Yeah, but did you notice any changes after you talked about it? No. No. No, but they didn't tell us not to share it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a choice, but it just, it feels right.

It's kind of like, you know, sharing a lot of stuff with your- I wish I had just told people that should know, that I was like, let me tell you what I saw. Oh yeah, I'm sure that's- To tell a bunch of strangers felt wrong. How was coming home? How was the passageway back to civilization?

The flight back was weird. It was like coming out of that bubble. Yeah. And my sleep was amazing for a while. Like it's fine now, but it's back to normal. You slept clean? But yeah, you slept hard. Wow.

And there were nights where I had crazy dreams and there were nights where I had crazy dreams and there were nights where I almost slept too hard to know anything, like what was going on. That flight back though from Peru to New York, I don't think I've ever slept, it was uncomfortably heavy. On the plane? Yes, I woke up and the first thought I had was where the fuck on a plane.

That's great. I was like, where am I going? You left immediately after the, no, I left two days after. Yeah. Cause you had to go back to the small town. You had to take the boat and the bus. The boat is such a good way to fucking change your scenery and change. The boat is literally like, like literally like a raft with a motor, with an engine for two hours. Taking you in river. In the river, in the middle of the Amazon. Yeah. And so when I got back to the next town

after the boat, they'll give you like things you can do. And I went to this monkey Island. So this is after I wanted to go to Cusco and climb Machu Picchu. And I was like, I don't want to rush this. Like I don't, I have 12 hours before my, I'll come back. But I did have time for the monkey Island and you're still like getting over everything that happened. And, and I mean, you're really not working out.

You're not eating a lot. So you're kind of exhausted. Like I felt like I was still fasting, but still eating, but they don't want you to eat too much immediately, it's not good for you. So I was like slow, I felt like an old lady, like I was 80. And then with all these monkeys just in the jungle,

there's like a monkey island. And that was scary because I was alone again. Like I was away from everyone had flown back and I was like alone with this man on a boat going to the monkey island. And I just had all these, I was too vulnerable. And that's what they said to once. If you go on the diet, you're going to notice, like if you're in the dining room where you're eating, you know, and on this retreat, or if people are talking too loudly, you're just going to be too sensitive and you're going to just want to leave. So I spent a lot of my days journaling in my room with a mattress. Yeah, we had a quiet, like a quiet area. Yeah.

And just like, I'm just going to be alone. I'm just going to be alone in here. And then it was like everything was wiped out, but you had to be careful. Like I was like, oh my god, I'm going on a monkey island by myself with this man. What's going to happen? And it's like, you're just being vulnerable right now.

Like just fucking take a breath. You know, it's like you've been drinking Drano and you're uncluttered. And now everything is extra sensitive, you know? Yeah. It's like you've been drinking Drano. It's like, it's just such a wild ride. Yeah.

How long till you start having the shits? Oh, I think when I got back to the States because I think some of the food there, you know how you can't drink the water and stuff? When I was in Southeast Asia I got back and someone was like, did you ever get diarrhea? I'm like, I only had diarrhea for four months. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then I would check in. It was never like a log. Yeah, and I would check in with the other people and everyone's like, yep, we're still shitting awkwardly and it's so weird shit. Yeah. But you would do it again? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I've actually, I'm trying, I mean, I've been trying for over a year, like how can I get it to my schedule to go out there and do it? And I know they have it. And did you go alone the first time? No, but I was already there. Oh yeah.

So we got offered Ayahuasca like our first week out by some guy who just had a farm. Yeah. And he was like, I have the cure for COVID. And we're like, what? And he's like, do you want it? And we were like scared of COVID right then. We really, you just can't go, no thanks.

You know, like you would in New York. Because he's like saying this thing, it's like, well, you got me. If this is a scam, you got me. I can't say this to an indigenous person's face. Not interested in the fucking world saving cure right now. Right, that you've grown up with and your family. He showed us what he had.

It's all this fucking plant shit there. And he showed us all this stuff, showed us his like COVID cure. It's all this fucking plant shit there. And he showed us all this stuff. Showed us his COVID cure. Which has been this big fucking, like one of those water jug things that you put, that you put like a, you know. You know what I mean? Like I think so.

That you put pennies in, but like you dump it over and it comes into one of those dispensers. Okay. You know, that they change. Anyway. Anyway. Yeah. And he's just that with the top cut off with like coconuts in it and fucking all this different shit

and it tastes like ass and then he made us a bottle and he goes, make a capful every morning, you should be fine. Didn't sell to us, whatever. But then he's like, did you wanna do IOS? We have that here. And we're like, no, you're just some guy and his mom. This feels wrong, but we're like,

this is it presenting itself. Then we're like, it's just too early. But then like four months later, it was like, it's time. You know, we got a recommendation, we got the right time. How long were you out there? Six months. Oh, that's brilliant. Yeah.

So it was my second or third trip to the Amazon, and this first time I went deep, deep in was right before. So it was just like, just connect. There's my favorite place in the world, the Amazon. I don't think I could do it anywhere else. It's so alive. Everything's dying and living at the same time. And the rain breaks shit down.

The rain is insane. Which lets the fallen trees break down and then you see the bugs coming in there and then the birds eat the bugs and the fucking leopards eat the birds and the fucking tapiris get eaten by the leopards and they shit out this. And that creates a new tree. And it's just like, it's all just living and dying at the same time.

Amazing though, how long, like how much there is. I mean, we were on this boat for hours and nothing changed. It was still the Amazon. It was still trees over here, trees over there. So describe this. This is what I, when I got back from Asia and people were like, you should write a sitcom or a show about whatever.

And I'm like, I've never seen it captured. So it's just maybe in podcasts or whatever, you're going down the Amazon on a shitty boat. Yeah. With just like a thin one, I assume, with like a rudder in the back or whatever. And so you're going there, we got stuck once, we were like, how do we help? I was like, yeah, stuck once. We were like, should we, how do we help?

It was like, yeah, get out. We're like, oh, it was only up to our fucking knees. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And other parts of like, are there piranha in here? Like crocodiles? Or those little crocodiles, those, uh. Caimans? Caimans, yeah.

And he's like, no, not right here. Like, what, it's okay. But it's like, they have their level of safety. But like, as you're going down and the shore's on that side and the shore's on that side, it was pretty wide. There's like a, a, a smells and, and just a feeling of newness that you're like going somewhere. Oh, it's, it's, I, it's that accomplishment. The, I just,

I never seen it in film recorded properly. It feels like you've dropped everything. It feels like a minimalist, I don't know, like you just don't have, no one knows where you are. You don't have anything but a backpack and, uh, and you're kind of open to whatever happens. I don't know.

There's a freedom in that, that I love. Like I went to India for six months and a lot of this trip before the Ayahuasca, the small town in Peru, reminded me of India. Just like that, you know, lower class, polluted. And I don't mean this in a negative way, but just like the simple life, more of a, maybe not so much now because there were more stores

and I think, I'm sure if I go to India now, it's like, there's a fucking Dunkin Donuts somewhere. But like, there's just a, uh, I don't know. It's just a, I've always just loved to travel and I find going to these like specific places where like, no one knows where I am right now. If I drop dead right now. Well, they even, who would even find me to report me to.

Exactly. And there, there's just a freedom to just going to, instead of like going to Paris all the time or London or whatever. Who's your emergency contact? Like there is none. It's just going to happen. Whatever happens happens. And if somebody abducts me and kills me, then it's already in play.

But I'm so glad I did this anyway. I don't care. You know, and that there's a And there's just a new life level, a new life experience to that where it just makes me wanna do it more. There's this fear I've seen a lot of people have of like, well, what if something happens there I heard is dangerous, but it's like,

it reminds me of like when people start flying with weed and like, can you fly with weed, I don't know. And I remember telling someone, it's like well you heard about that comic who got like arrested, right? And then alarmists, I have a lot of alarmist friends, like Rogan is one, but like they're like no, who was that? I'm like no one, no one, we would have heard about it.

We all fly with weed and no one's been arrested. So what is this fear that's not letting you fucking have a joint with you in fucking Kansas City? Or not letting you go to fucking Lima to go to some tiny town and go, like who's dying? And maybe, maybe some people are, but then you wouldn't have had that experience. And I think also if there's at least one person

in your life who you trust with your life, who's like, this was incredible. Like there's a place in Spain, that I don't know where it is, but two people have told me about it, and you can go into the woods and do San Pedro, and it's amazing. And I'm like, I know I'm gonna get there.

Not yet, I just wanna kind of enjoy this, I just got back. But like that kind of shit to me is like, you just need one person you trust to tell you. Like go for it. And then just do it. You're not. Yeah and every time, I have a friend who,

his daughter is like kind of aimless. Yeah. I'm like she should go travel. She should go like backpack around Southeast Asia or South America. And then what if something happens to her? And it's like, well, what if she gets date raped in college? Right.

I mean, I guess I'd feel responsible if I told her to go to college and she got date raped, but it's like, these are just the risks of life. I don't know. Right. And then also you just get that bug that you only really get to enjoy once. It's different when you travel older, but when you're in your early,

when I went to India and I bought a one way ticket in mid 20s. This is the next episode, but yeah. So, you know, like one way ticket to Bombay and then, you know, six months later, I, what's it, six weeks and six weeks is what? 12 weeks, that's four months. Four months later, I flew out of Kathmandu.

Like I didn't know I was gonna be there, but you just like let it take you and there's nothing. I mean, I could do that now, but when you're young, there's just this kind of like innocent, this stupidity in you where you just like do everything. Like when I look back at that trip, the India one, some of that shit, I'm like, you are so stupid. You're retarded, why would you do that?

Why would you do that? That's so stupid. You could have been raped and murdered. But all the stories of you could have been this, you could have been this, is stories of stuff that didn't happen. Right, to us. These guys followed us.

They could have killed you, but they didn't. But this is an example of how it is safe. Right. You know, my friend got arrested trying to chase his friend on mushrooms. He got naked and then he's like, where's Benji? And then he went out to find him. Even though Benji was just in the bathroom.

And so he's out in the street in West Hollywood naked and he got arrested on mushrooms. And then he got released. I'd be like, well, what if they could have pressed charges? And like, but they didn't. But they didn't. So how can you use that as an example of when that would happen, when it didn't happen?

Right, but at the same time, if it had happened. Yeah, you'd feel bad. No, but it would still be like, well, if you hadn't done it, what, you're gonna live your life in a cubicle, like watching friends all your whole life? Like, if you're gonna go, wouldn't you rather go, if I'm gonna die, like I went to Alaska recently and now I've noticed

when I do stand up, like I don't just leave. Like I almost like search for places I wanna perform and then I'm like, oh Alaska, I'll stay for 10 days. And I stayed for 10 days and it was fucking incredible. But I had two nights of shows. And then I went glacier hiking. You also get some intel when you have this benefit of doing stand-up somewhere where you can talk to locals afterwards and get some advice on what there is actually

to do, not the Lonely Planet version of it, but like, hey, what's, and it's like, oh, well, actually, this is like ice water slide you should check out. It's only two weeks. But also, I mean, I have so much material on Alaska now and it just makes you wanna go back too. You know, so I spent all of September in Peru and Alaska and I probably did three shows that whole month

and I was like, I love that. Like, it's not gonna make me a worse comic. It'll make me a better person, yeah. I mean, The Fountainhead talks about how to be an artist, architect, but apply it to stand up if you want. And there's supposed to be time set aside for being on a boat for a month and doing nothing. That's part of the creative process.

So going to Peru for 10 days, going to Alaska for 10 days, is writing. It's writing. Yeah, doing spots in the cellars is also important, but not the same. But then you go like, well, what else can I do? And now I'm like, African safari, trip to Iceland. Okay, Monroe went to a safari.

He did? Yeah, he did. There was a gig that paid for it. Holy shit. Because he said everybody else was there, it was like these 60 year old white people and he saw him and his girlfriend, he was like, what do you do for a living, sir?

And Monroe was like, oh, it was a free trip. It was just like organizers came to his show. Amazing. Yeah, and it was like, got it out there, made everything tax deductible. Yeah. It's a cool benefit of doing standup and then showing you how to fucking sleep

in the Serengeti. It's almost like, I mean of course it matters what they pay you, but if you can get the Alaska trip, it was just a free trip. I didn't make money because I spent the money for the rest of the week, but the experience is invaluable. And the pictures and the fucking bears and the moose, like that's insane.

It's so funny to see people like be scared when they see a moose, because I'm always like, oh moose, that's cute. Like, let's get out of here. Well, I did it the first time because it was fucking huge and it was walking towards a car and you can tell when they're pissed. You know, like if the car lights are on his face or whatever.

And I was like, uh-uh, I'm getting in. Like, this is crazy. All right, this is already over what it should be, but this is fucking interesting as shit. Oh my God. I'll talk to you more about it if you want, like the personal stuff later. Okay.

And I'll show you those pictures of the plant, of all the different, it's so fucking interesting. They had this one thing, this ethnobotanist, I met near the hotel I was staying outside, the village I went to, was like, he did this thing called nature, I think nature baths or sound baths, I forget now. And I do it all the time now.

But in the Amazon, it works better than anywhere. Me and you were there, you go up 50 yards ahead, or I go 50 yards ahead, whatever, and you just walk slowly, just like kind of meditation walk. And he goes, when you're not listening to anybody, your field of vision gets way wider. Your field of hearing gets way wider, because you're not focusing on listening

to someone else tell a story or yourself. So you just start hearing birds and then you start hearing different birds. And then you start hearing, oh, there's a fucking chainsaw somewhere in the distance. You just hear the nature. Even though chainsaw's not nature. But that kind of shit is fun.

And in the Amazon it's so fucking alive. You can hear so much on so many levels. It's pretty nuts. Oh, and then when we were in this mud, I don't even know what to call it, it was like a lagoon. With the mud, when it rained, it created bubbles.

Every drop made a bubble, so the whole lagoon was full of bubbles. And you're like, I'm in the middle of the Amazon with a bubble, in a bubble bath, but it's a natural one. Whoa. It was so weird, yeah. That's so fucking cool. It was wild.

That's so cool. And everyone there, like the family that was in the retreat with us that lived there, they were so happy. There was a glow to them until one of the little boys was like, I wanna go on Facebook, no joke. And I was like, fucking shut up, because right now there's no Facebook in here.

Like this is perfect. But there was like an inner grounded joy to them for not, like for living this life. You know, it was weird and cool. Anyway. Yeah, I gotta get back there now. Yeah. Every one of these I've done that at the end of it,

I know it's a good one, cause I'm like, this like longing is in me. It's like this empty feeling of like, I want that. the end of it, I know it's a good one, because I'm like, this longing is in me. It's like this empty feeling of like, I want that, and I can't get it right now, so it's like an unfulfilled desire. And then I always, as soon as I'm done, I just want to keep going. I might want to leave that place,

but I don't want to come back yet. I just want to keep going to a different place. So I think, oh, I got to get a travel tip from you, but I think you get really free when you've gone to a second place, cause then you're not coming from anywhere that you're anchored to. So if you go Lima to Buenos Aires to Rio, it's like when you're in Rio you're like,

well I'm not from Buenos Aires, and from that it's even from Mexico. It's like this is're in Rio, you're like, well, I'm not from America. I'm from Buenos Aires. Totally. From that it's like, this is all on, on shackled. Yeah. But then it never ends. I find that I want to keep going. Do my best times have been like months long. Yeah. Yeah.

They're incredible. What is that freedom? It's like this freedom. I can't, I've never been able to describe it. Well, there, there's a high, I think to like move like traveling, like I get that even packing. I never got that before. Packing was like annoying, but like I get it even at the start when I'm like,

I'm packing for Peru or I'm packing for Alaska. Like I'm already in this like adrenaline high place. Yeah. You know, and that, I just don't want that to, to stop. And you know, it's going to stop when you get back here. Yeah. Like, like everything else, I guess too much is not good because then you have to like, you know, make a living and everything. And, but, but just having the ability to do that,

like yearly, that's why I'm like every year I have to go somewhere new, at least three, I try to do at least three to five places. Like, like I had shows in Berlin and Vienna and, and I was like, boyfriend, he's like, I'm coming, I'm going. And then I just did a corporate in Wyoming, so we drove two hours to see Mount Rushmore

in South Dakota. Like even those little things, you're like, this is fucking Mount Rushmore, and somebody carved this. It's not even eye level, like it's at the very top of a mountain. And you're like, what the fuck? And you're like, who the fuck knew how to make George Washington at the top of that mountain?

And even that stuff is like. Yeah, I would have just spray painted their name. And that would have been like, how'd you get up there? Or yeah, like you would have like put a big, I don't know, picture of them at the top. I don't know, but it was the carving and the, there's so much beauty in this country too. You don't have to go to. Me and Kevin Isow was driving from Tucson to Phoenix

to take a direct flight home. Yeah. Whatever. Flight, a connecting flight. And then as we drive, we stopped for a hike. We left an hour extra. And then we got back in the car. And he's like, ah, fucking flight's delayed an hour and 20.

And I was like, oh, well, let's take scenic route. And I just passed this thing that said, something national monument. Yeah. And I said like, some national monument. Yeah. And I'm like, okay, let's go. It was just this old, indigenous, like 600 year old, like little like remnant of a temple. Yeah.

Where they had all this like astronomical shit, like this window would, every solstice would have a direct light at sunset. This one only though, some lunar eclipse every 18 years would have like a direct like shining light from there to there. This one every like equinox. And you're just like, yeah, there's so much of that shit.

There's so much and we missed. But it was 30 minutes off the highway. Yeah. It wasn't like right off it. But we missed Aurora Borealis by one day in Alaska because it was raining and then we missed it in Greenland. I was in Greenland and we missed it by one day. But no, the story that when you're like,

oh, we have an hour and a half, let's go do something. It was me, Erin Foley, Nathan McIntosh and Jim Tooze. And we're in Africa. Where's Erin Foley been? She's LA. She's LA. I haven't seen her in so long. She's so awesome.

She rules. She's so awesome. But we were on this military tour and we had an eight hour layover and in Egypt. And we were like, let's check out how far the pyramids are. It was like 30 minutes away.

We just went on a layover. We went to the pyramids are. It was like 30 minutes away. We just went on a layover. We went to the pyramids, the four of us. It was awesome. It's like that's what you have to do. I just have to check the time. Yeah, okay, we gotta go. I tried to keep yous in an hour, it's already an hour 20. Carmen, you got your special out here right now.

I'll do it again in the intro, but what's it called? Queef Week. Queef Week. Queef Week. Carmen is a great comedian, underrated I'd say. Someone once took that as an insult when I told them but. No, I think it's a compliment, thank you. Yeah, I'll tell you afterwards. I was like, what does that mean?

I'm like, I don't know. It means you don't get the respect you should get. You should get more, okay. I'm rated, I'm like, all right. I'm sorry But ever I check it out it's on YouTube the only platform that doesn't really censor On Mark Norman's YouTube. It's on Mark Norman's YouTube. He's he's now which I think is cool putting together like a little You know stable of comics where he's gonna have a playlist of just comics. He funny. That's awesome. Yeah. God, I thought it was just me. You got one of them, you was an easy one. I'm kidding.

You're like, what the fuck? What the fuck, Mark? Yeah, Carmen, you've always been a killer, so that's great you finally did a special. Thank you, and yeah, it's on Mark's, it's called Cui-F week, and then if you're in Spain, there's one called Carmen en Espanol, and that one's all in Spanish.

El Cui-Fo de semana. El Cui-Fo, the Cui-F is not in Spanish. I did not do El Cueifo de Semana. El Cueifo, the Cueif is not in Spanish. I did not do El Cueifo. Do they have Cueifs there? They must, right? I'm sure it's like, El aire que sale de tu vagina. Like everything's long there. El aire sucio.

I'm practicing. As long as I can make a Spanish joke, I'm pretty happy. And then also where can people find you if they wanna like, you know, tell you thank you for. As long as I can make a Spanish joke, I'm pretty happy. And then also, where can people find you if they wanna like, you know, tell you thank you for. Instagram and all that stuff? At CarmenComedian is Instagram. C-A-R-M-E-N.

Comedian. And that's also my Venmo. Ha ha. Yeah, send her some cash, guys. There's a way to do these self, they call them self-produced, but really it's really self-funded. Self-funded.

Specials, and it's the NPR model, and if you like it, you should throw a couple duckets their way so they can do it again. Yeah. As long as we break even, we can keep making these for you guys. But we just gotta break even, so. So please. If you like something,

throw them five, 10, 20 bucks. Anything helps. At CarmenComedian and Kweef Week and all that good stuff, thank you. You're welcome, thanks for coming in. As I said before, you're like, legitimately in my head when I started this podcast, I'm thinking of Carmen Lynch.

Aw. Such a fucking cool traveler. Thank you. Yeah. Go travel, people. Yeah. All right. I really did not have anything from the Amazon.

How is that possible? How is it possible? I have all these fucking... All these souvenirs and tons from Ecuador and not one of them is from my... Literally my favorite place in the world. I hate saying favorite, but it might be the Amazon jungle. No. In the world I hate saying favor, but it might be the Amazon jungle No Boom the machete boom the machete. Yeah, that's right. I bought it in

Yeah a town entrance town into the Amazon one of the three major entrance towns in Ecuador that are like Places that you start and then you go deep into the end and there's one that's like deep in the jungle and that's like the last stop and then his boats from there. Unless you're a logger and then a driller then you get plenty of access on roads. Guys that's today's episode. Thank you very much Carmen Lynch for coming in. Please go check out her special Kweef Week that Mark Norman put out in his YouTube account. Donate some money to her. I don't know if you guys know

this, but when we're putting out these specials, the new model is nobody pays fuck anymore. So even if you're on Netflix, they're not really paying for the specials. I lost money on mine. I'm fine with it, but it's just something to note and when you do it on YouTube I mean you don't even get a little bit of that back so it all works on donations if you can go throw five dollars to her you can keep a great comment going but check it out regardless if you just want to laugh that's okay too but there's a little promo thing a little like button right there which you can do this on this podcast too if you want to kick me a couple of dockets and tell me what you

want me to use it for that's not bad you kick me a couple do this on this podcast too, if you wanna kick me a couple of dockets and tell me what you want me to use it for. That's not bad. You kick me a couple of dockets on YouTube, I will notice it, and then tell me what you want me to use it for on a travel, and I'm gonna do my best. I'm gonna have that in mind. Oh, $5 or $10 from that guy.

I mean $20 from that guy. Whatever you want. Go get some drugs in a foreign country. I'll have that in mind. Go eat some questionable bugs. I'll have that in mind. Go eat some questionable bugs. I'll have that in mind. But Carmen Lynch is a great comic. You guys should also see her live. She's going to be in Laree, Virginia August 2nd. Buenos Aires, Argentina. September 5th and 7th I mean. September 5th in English. September 7th in Spanish. September 12th and

13th in Levittown, New York and then Paris, France October 18th also in Spanish. Wow she's going to Paris. Yeah she's fluent in Spanish. What a fun trip and I like by the way I like that she didn't really go into what she saw really on her ayahuasca trip. She just kind of got us there. She goes here's what and then the rest is personal But like we're here. I Mean, what a great one. She's changed from it Have any of you guys done? I want some people ask me to like you like do you do ayahuasca?

I was good. Yeah, and they go do you like I go meh and they go really like no, not really everybody loves it It's like life-changing and I don't know how to describe it other than like it scrubs you from the inside. I would like to tell you about something of the week. By the way I have shows of carmenlinch.com for all those. I have shows at AriShafeer.com. Only two left for the rest of the year. June 18th in Anchorage, Alaska and July 12th in Charlestown, West Virginia at the Hollywood Casino. Get tickets right now at Ari Shaffir plus merch and everything else you want to see on my website. Zane Jureski, by the way click subscribe wherever you're watching or listening. Zane Jureski, a podcast who won a Trippie Award

for most adventurous, for going to Morocco in 2025. No, 2024. By the way, with these new episodes, nominate people on the comments for best anything. Not just best episode, most adventurous, best drugs. Obviously this one is a nominee. Oh, sound effect. Larson, sound effect right here. Best nominee award for best drugs of 2025 for 25,000 trippy. Carmen Lynch. What's the sound effect for a train? A plane? I don't know.

But every week I want to tell you about something I like, something interesting and Zane Jurecki, former podcast guest and my classmate in Rolf Potts writing a memoir writing class in Paris has a new one out three weeks ago. No. Yeah. Yurt's Treasure and Horse Milk Kazakhstan's Bizarre Olympic Games. He made this video, it's so fucking good. It's so good about Kazakhstan and about the World Nomad Games. He's done other ones walking 1,000 miles from Croatia to Greece.

Zane's crazy in like the best possible way. I gotta meet up with him again at some point. But you gotta see the hidden treasure. Yurt's treasure and horse milk, Kazakhstan's Bizarre Olympic Games. Kazakhstan's bizarre Olympic games. It's all the world nomad games. People are firing arrows with their feet. It's all the hunting with, it's wrestling on horseback.

It's playing football with those big goat hides. It's great, check it out. It's Zane Jurecki, it's youtube.com slash at Z-A-N-E-J-A-R-E-C-K-E. It's my pick of the week. It was really great. It was really great. Really entertained me. Let's open up some mail.

Real quick. We got some, if you wanna send me something, by the way, if you wanna send money for my money wall, I got new ones. I got Bhutan just came in. Indo. Vietnam. Where's that one? Nagara Malaysia. Yeah I want to fill up that wall before we before we leave the studio. But also I like your postcards from around the world and this comes from when I was in Edinburgh. People would

it's I do free Edinburgh shows. So you pay what you want at the end, which is really fun. And people donate money at the end. Usually it's pounds, sometimes it's dollars. Sometimes it was just a hardy note. Sometimes it would be a chick's number. It would be fucking so fun and interesting. But also like, I'm not calling you off just a number.

At least draw yourself. Who's going to be like, hey, here's a woman's handwriting. You wanna meet up? That's crazy. But then sometimes, it'd be drugs. That would always be nice, a little sheet of acid. I'm risking it. And by risking it, I mean, if there's four hits,

I'm giving one to a friend, watching for an hour, and then doing it. Last time I was there, it was pre-fentanyl. So, it's easier to risk. Although Europe is all free of it anyway. Don't quote me on that. But sometimes they leave coins. They leave coins from other places around the world.

Like this one, and I get these coins, because two pound coin, I would get that a lot. You'd get three or four of them, and it's like, here's eight pounds, which is like 12 bucks. And this one is from, I say it last week Monaco yeah Monaco it's a fucking Monaco coin bro it's cool so I get stuff like that in my bin and I thought it was really fun I get like Czech Republic stuff and like Poland stuff I'm like oh my god you guys have been places it helps me connect and this just does too so if you want to

send an email so it's a you be tri tripping 151 first Avenue number 49, New York, New York 100 0 3 by the way I've already started reaching out to people who have submitted for the chip around the world. Those submissions are done We're narrowing it down. I'm talking to different people saying how they'd go and whatever once I get it I will let you guys know what we're doing and when they're going and kind of just where they're starting maybe, I don't know. Ari, I write this card to you from Levy, Finland, pronounced Le-havi. Leviticus, the largest ski resort in Finland,

located in the northernmost part of the country. Wow. I'm 110 miles north of the Arctic Circle. Oh no wonder they got the northern lights. Wow. That's so fucking cool. I traveled here to see the northern lights and the autumn colors. Also because I met a lovely Finnish lady and we're getting it on up here, bro What's better than a travel fuck? I? Mean, what's better? There's no repercussions It's temporal

It's just like we're just gonna have fun and we're gonna go on our separate ways. It's the best. It's the best You're both just like no expectations like let's have a good time you're going north to Finland I'll go with you well fuck a little shore like Segura's German girl they met in Algiers in Tunisia but I was just anybody and by the way whoever reached out with that postcard about meeting a Thai girl who you found out was a woman for sure and getting her name tattooed? What's the update on that?

I wanna know. Anyway, but let's go with this, Richard. Cause I did meet a lovely Finnish lady and we're getting it on up here. I am at Dominica Descent from New York City with heights, sectism. Oh, you're from there. Oh, I'm a Dominican descent. Okay.

Moi Moi from Richard. Damn dude. And look, you got the fucking postcard from up there. Pretty cool. Pretty fucking cool. Northern Lights, bro. Fucking red. Let's open this one because this one might be some money. Next week on the episode, we have... fucking rad let's open this one because this one might be some money next week on the episode we have by the way today's episode was recorded by was

produced by your mom's house networkers edited by Alan Caffey expert editor let's see next week I got a whole Yanis Papas whoo you know we gotta do we gotta make a playlist. You be tripping playlist. Please subscribe. But by country, alphabetical order by country. Guys, remind me.

Cooks, Thornton, Missouri. Two cooks. Let's open this one up. I should also fill in this wall with postcards while I'm waiting to fill up the rest of it. Thank you. It's money!

It's money! Let me show you how you open up birthday presents and birthday cards in the Jewish households, or at least in my household. It's like this. Oh what do we got here? Brazil, Republic dos Catamos Unidos de Brazil. Who's that guy? Who's that guy I'd like to know? Blood is on his hands for sure. Kim Kujo... I've never been to Brazil. That's not true. I have been to Brazil. I ate at a churrascaria with Joe Rogan.

Excuse me. Excuse me. Apologies. Joe Hogan. Um, in Rio de Janeiro. It was crazy. I went out to the beaches there. What a good time, Rogan wouldn't come. UFC told him, put in his head that it's so dangerous. And I was like, well we're literally across the street from the Rio beaches, I'm going. I'm also not an international kidnapping target.

You know, you gotta know, everything with grain of salt. Everyone has benefits and whatever. So, it's a lot easier for me to go out. People are like, just some guy with no money. Ari, thanks for the years of laughter. Been a fan since the beginning. I'm inspired by your love of adventure and travel. That's great, man. Everybody who can get a fucking passport because of me, I'll take credit. Go do it. We need travel. We need passport holders as merch. You be trippin' passport holders.

I'm inspired by your love of adventure and travel. My father-in-law was stationed in Brazil around 1957, making maps for the Army Air Corps. Later became the Air Force. I found this bill in my husband's childhood piggy bank while decluttering. Whoa, what? It's an old one?

I hope 2020, it's an old one. I hope 2025. It's an old one. Can't tell what year, but it's going up on the wall. Where should we put it? Right there. Let me finish reading this as I do it. I hope 2025 is incredible for you. And enjoy your family and friends during the holiday season. Well, that'll tell you when this was sent. Shine on you crazy diamond Kelly. P.S. yes, you do have at least one 60 year old woman as a fan. Kelly, you're a beautiful soul.

God damn, this is cool. Alright, one more postcard while we're doing this. Hello from Corfu. We wanted to mail you a dildo since it lined the streets of Athens. What is that true? I don't remember that. Where'd you stay bro? But an old lady on a yard us will do we never thought we'd

see. Bigger balls than yours until we stumbled across Homely local who was hanging sweet chariot On the island sweet chariot. Oh, is that a term for balls out? Love it on the island of Corfu Fragile money on the island of Corfu. God, this is fucking fragile money. 1010 would recommend visiting Eleftheria e Thanatos. Michaela and Josh from Bozeman, Montana. Dude, that's where, I'm pretty sure, unless it's Billings, definitely Montana,

that's where Zane Jurecki's from. That's where Zane Jureski's from. That's where Zane Jureski's from. And now you guys all know when you see this next Where it came from I might move it. Fucking great one. Hold on let me show you the postcard, and then let's call the episode. Isn't that cool?

Greece, Corfu, Greece. I mean, imagine seeing this. Imagine being in a place and seeing this. It's so fucking cool. So Ari Shafir, 151 First Avenue, number 49, New York, New York, 1003. We will save this one till next time. Osterreich, where the fuck is that?

John and Holly, Czech Republic. I'll do it next time. Guys, thank you very much for tuning in. Please subscribe. Next week, Giannis Papas is coming on to talk about South Africa. Every week is different. I hope you guys are enjoying this as much as I do.

Please continue to suggest people that are outside the comedy world and outside the travel The words are travel blogger worlds as well. Somebody mentioned Patrick Beverly. He's coming on the podcast former Philadelphia 76er and I reached out he goes. Yeah, I'm into it. I'm into travel now So if you heard of anyone who's been to a weird place suggested suggest it on the comments and I will get to it. Well, I'll at least try. Thank you very much for tuning in everybody. I love you all. I know this. Hasta luego. But it's not. It's Amazonian so it's a different... it's fucking... Kichwa, probably. I don't know how to say goodbye in Kichwa. But hasta luego, hasta semana después. That's definitely wrong.

Bye!