You Be Trippin' - United Arab Emirates w/ Tucker Carlson | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

Follow Tucker on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/tuckercarlson/# SPONSORS: -To get your new wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, and get the plan shipped to your door for FREE, go to ht...tps://MINTMOBILE.com/trippin. On this episode of You Be Trippin, Tucker Carlson’s plane crashes on the way to the United Arab Emirates, where the monarchy rules by consent and you’re free to say the “R” word. On the show, he and Ari talk about free speech, slavery, diversity, booze in Dubai, and how traveling makes you understand your own country more. They also discuss New York City trash, Egyptian traffic laws, and Ecuadorian covid elixirs. Other topics include: pearl divers, Emirates Airlines, falconry, the Taliban, and toilet paper hands. استمتع بالرحلة! You Be Trippin' Ep. 50 https://www.instagram.com/arishaffir https://www.instagram.com/youbetrippinpod https://store.ymhstudios.com Chapters 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:02 - Travel & Diversity 00:02:53 - The UAE 00:06:12 - The Monarchy & Free Speech 00:13:18 - His Plane Went Down 00:19:39 - The UAE is Progressive & Their View on Dogs 00:23:28 - Emirates Airline 00:26:47 - Alcohol in Dubai 00:30:00 - A Business Hub & Ruling by Consent 00:34:30 - Abu Dhabi 00:36:08 - Slavery & Citizenship 00:39:08 - Falconry, Food, & Toilet Paper Hands 00:42:48 - New York Trash & Egyptian Traffic Laws 00:45:46 - Ecuadorian Covid Elixirs 00:48:34 - Travel Tips, North Korea, & Estonian Saunas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 AirTransat presents two friends traveling in Europe for the first time and feeling some pretty big emotions. This coffee is so good! How do they make it so rich and tasty? Those paintings we saw today weren't prints. They were the actual paintings. I have never seen tomatoes like this. How are they so red? With flight deals starting at just $589, it's time for you to see what Europe has to offer. Don't worry, you can handle it. Visit airtransat.com for details, conditions apply Europe has to offer. Don't worry. You can handle it Visit air trends at comm for details conditions apply air trends at travel moves us So what's this about? Okay, this is about travel. Let me I'll start it off, but it was just like talk about travel Oh, I connected with you so much on that shit before sorry. I'll try out this curse
Starting point is 00:00:40 Before we even started up there at your place. you just meet certain people that are just into it. Totally. It's you. I feel that way about travel. I mean, I think it's one of the most important things. Where you been and where you going? This is Ari's Travel Show, yeah. We're gonna talk about travel today.
Starting point is 00:00:59 It's UB Trippin', yeah. Hi everybody, welcome to UB Trippin, yeah Hi everybody, welcome to UB Trippin. I'm the host Ari Shafir. I go to a lot of places I like hearing from other people. One of the greatest travelers in journalism, I'd say. On the Mount Rushmore of journalist travelers. Tucker Carlson. Just got off his war with the Magnussons and they were victorious. Congratulations, and now he's here. Thank you. And he's here to talk about where. Where do you wanna like talk about? We're trying to cut it to like one place. One place?
Starting point is 00:01:31 Well, I've been a lot of, first let me just say one of the reasons you and I connected, well you've traveled in a way that I haven't traveled since the 1980s, which was without a cell phone, which is like, that's real travel. It's fun. Because then you're fully immersed and the whole point of travel is to get perspective,
Starting point is 00:01:44 I think, to satisfy your travel is to get perspective, I think, to satisfy your curiosity and to get perspective. And I am one of the only people, politics aside, who actually believes in diversity. Like, I like to see people who have got different ideas, different cultures, different languages, and I don't feel like I have to drop bombs on them if they live differently from me.
Starting point is 00:02:03 I just don't. I know that puts me in a tiny minority in Washington, D.C., but so I really think you can't understand your own country until you travel to other countries. Yeah, it's weird. When you're in another country, you're more easily able to be like, oh, differences, and then here you're like, wrong.
Starting point is 00:02:18 It's, yes, and you don't have perspective on what's happening here until, and I say this as someone who really loves America, was born here, I'm gonna die here. I'm connected to the country. I think At least emotionally I am but I wouldn't love America as much and I certainly wouldn't understand it half as well If I didn't travel a lot. Yeah. Yeah, it is really weird you come back and just like how this is all clear now. Yes But if you're gonna pick one country, yeah Are you looking for an animal? Oh
Starting point is 00:02:52 That dog is so cute it's out of control Bandit you're a good dog Go play with the ladies about it Yeah, what what uh, what's on your mind you're going to do this podcast like six times. Okay, so I've been to a million countries, but I haven't been to that many countries except the obvious ones, you know, many times. Okay. I've been to England many times, France many times, Italy many times.
Starting point is 00:03:19 You know, those are obvious. Who hasn't been to those countries many times? Greece many times. The only country outside of Western Europe I've been to a lot is the UAE. And what's so cool about the United Arab Emirates is I've been there for, I first went there in October of 2001 right after 9-11, because I was headed over
Starting point is 00:03:39 to see the Taliban. And- What do you mean, what? Well, no, I was just a journalist and I was interviewing the Taliban. And what do you mean? What? Well, I know I was just a journalist and I was interviewing the Taliban in Pakistan at the Taliban embassy, right before the Afghan war started when the Taliban were still in charge of Afghanistan. So 911 happened obviously mid September. And the war
Starting point is 00:03:57 in Afghanistan didn't begin until 15th or so until month later. Yeah, ish, if my memory serves. And so during that month, the Taliban were still in charge of Afghanistan, they were the walking dead, everyone knew it, and I wanted to go interview them. This is not an interesting story, but I, in. Did they know their time was about over? They were pretty far out from what I can remember.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I remember that the Taliban spokesman when I interviewed was holding the hand of this little boy And everyone was making fun of it actually Everyone in the press corps there was making fun of it. This was in Karachi or Islamabad, but I was I think it was an Islamabad Pakistan But anyway, the point is I went to UAE on the way there and the way back And on the way back, I had this horrible, my plane went down on the way back from Pakistan,
Starting point is 00:04:53 from Peshawar, Pakistan on the Khyber Pass, into Dubai in the middle of the night, and it landed in the sand dune and the plane was wrecked. It was destroyed. What? And so now that plane is actually a dive site for scuba diving. I pulled it into the water. They did. Yeah, off a hotel. It's a big, big double aisle airbus. And you can now dive on it. So
Starting point is 00:05:14 that was that was October of 2001. And I've just been back intermittently and then in recent years, much more regularly every year. Well, you're most welcome. I do, I do to the UAE. And so I've seen the changes there in a way that has absolutely blown my mind. It's just in this way that if you go back to any place over time, but particularly to a country that's just becoming something as that country is.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Were they like completely unmodern before? Well, okay, I got there in 2001. So this, you know, we had air travel and air conditioning and it was the modern era. But I remember, uh, going to a belly dancing place in Dubai. I mean, it wasn't the Arabian nights or anything. It was a modern city and they had this famous airline Emirates, but can't marry you a little animal. Um, but it was, you know, it was like middle. It was very Middle Eastern and it was right after nine 11.
Starting point is 00:06:04 So there was this, you know, everyone in America was like scared to death of the Arabs and Islam and all this stuff. And there was like, oh gosh, you know, my safe here in Dubai. And then, you know, subsequently I've been back many times and, and I've just watched it become, become basically the future. Not just futuristic, not just like far out architecture or clean streets, but I've just seen that country adopt, self-consciously adopt sort of the best qualities of the West, rule of law, order. So it's not dangerous? No, not at all.
Starting point is 00:06:41 It's definitely not dangerous. I heard they have futurists as part of their government, which says, hey, in 10 years, it's gonna be this, so let's start playing now versus building a highway here and then it's already done. Yes, it's all, I mean, look, it's a monarchy, so, and it's probably the most, I mean, in my opinion, it's the most benign, thoughtful, enlightened,
Starting point is 00:07:01 liberal in the best sense of the word, liberal monarchy in the world. Really? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I mean that is, that's the kind of country where, that's the kind of country that makes you feel sad about your own country.
Starting point is 00:07:12 It's like you're in the middle of an Islamic monarchy where they're more tolerant, there's more free speech, there's more tolerance. There's more free speech. Oh my gosh, yes. I mean, I think it's pretty clear that, you know, if you were to criticize, and this is true, I think throughout the Gulf, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:27 if you were to call for, you know, Sharia law, if you were to express like radical Islamic political views, you would be, they won't put up with that because it's a threat to them. Right, but everything else. Yeah, I mean, you can walk down the streets of Abu Dhabi and say, you know, I'm a proud Jew Ari Shafir.
Starting point is 00:07:47 They don't care about that at all. That's always the question in the Middle East, like how safe is it and then how safe is it for this nose? Oh, not only is it safe, it's like, yeah, oh yeah, no, no, no, no, there are lots of Jews in the golf who are totally including a very good friend of mine who lives here. Jesus. No, and there are lots of Christians too. I mean, it's really, it's, in general, they're much more comfortable with religious faith, publicly proclaimed as
Starting point is 00:08:15 long as it's not political Islam, which obviously again is a threat to them. And I don't think you'd want to try that. Yeah. I don't think you want to go like Muslim Brotherhood. Yeah, a lot of these places are like, just don't show the government. You're fine. And I'm like, well, I wasn't gonna so it's fine. Well, Russia's like that. Honestly, just don't make fun of the government. Yeah. Say anything else. Kind of. Yeah. And that was certainly my experience there. Just don't get involved in politics. It's like that's what would by the way, I'm an American. So I feel
Starting point is 00:08:39 a right to get involved in politics. So that that's a deal killer for me. I can't live in a country like that. Yeah. to get involved in politics. So that's a deal killer for me. I can't live in a country like that. But as a visitor, oh, it's, yes, it's incredibly free. And the things that people say, so we've been brainwashed into believing that if you allow people actual free speech,
Starting point is 00:08:57 which obviously we don't have, but if you were ever to allow them that, that they would just become like, you know, Vesuviuses of hate. You just start, you know, beating up black people or screaming the N word. And actually most people don't have any interest in acting like that because they don't feel that way. That's just a lie. And what you get when you allow people to say what they really think is a much
Starting point is 00:09:18 more interesting conversation where people say, and usually in a pretty, in my experience, a very polite kind of restrained way, cause people don't generally wanna hurt each other's feelings, you know, I think this and here's why, and I think that and here's why, and it's like, sort of America, 1985, you know? In China, my friends all told me that they use WeChat,
Starting point is 00:09:38 but there's no regulation there, so they're just seeing a lot of, if they're comedians, they're seeing a lot of murdered babies. But everything else like, hey, come on, my mom's in this chat. And then they just regulate themselves. But there's no like, can't show that. Like you can show anything.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Is that true? So some stuff flips through, but it's not like you're just like, guys, I'm out of this group. It wouldn't be in your group. It would just be like in a comedian's group. They would send murdered babies pictures? Yeah, or just like anything crazy, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:06 But I think over time, like, I mean, I've never lived in a society with, you know, real free speech, but I think if you did, you would find that people would, don't really want to scream racial epithets or send pictures of, you know what I mean? Some of it's because you're like, oh, they won't let me do this.
Starting point is 00:10:20 No, but that's, some of it, all of it. Most of it anyway, you're like, oh, you can't say't say like the word retarded. I've never had like a deep desire to call people retarded. But the second they're like, Oh, you're against the disabled. Well, no, actually I kind of like people with down. So then you're like, yeah, retarded, retarded, retarded. Yeah. But you can't stop. You can't take a word away. It's all I can do now. It's true. And they're like, don't bring this up. You're like, Oh, why'd you say that? That's how I feel.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Why'd you say it? That's what he said about China. Don't make fun of the Chinese government on stage. I'm like, I was never gonna, but now it's all I can think about. That is the truth. Yes, I have that same personality. I know the feeling very well.
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Starting point is 00:12:56 Portland sold out that's it now let's get back to the episode again if you watched America sweetheart if you enjoyed it I really appreciate it for those of you who just joining this this podcast, for Tucker Carlson, he'll be back on again because he's a great traveler. He's also got his own, well I'll tell you in a second, but check out my special. I'm a stand-up comic and I have a new special out right now on Netflix called America's Sweetheart. Tucker Carlson approves of my stand-up comedy.
Starting point is 00:13:21 You should too. He also has his own pouch of nicotine that you guys love called ALP. It's all lives pattern. That can't be right. What could ALP stand for? Well, Alp. Oh, maybe it's because he's in the Alps. Maybe Alpine. Could be that. You know, I could ask Tucker fucking Carlson. I've met him. I've met him. You don't believe me? Watch the rest of this episode. Let's get back to it. So what'd you do? First of all, I gotta get back to this plane going down. We just skimmed over that, but I want to know what you got,
Starting point is 00:13:53 what you get into when you're in Dubai. Well, I, it wasn't in, when the plane went down. So I was coming. It went down to the announce, Hey strap up. No, it was, uh was it was really awful actually But no, we were flying on a Pakistan International Airways flight from Peshawar Pakistan, which is right Peshawar it looks like at the spelling and it's right on the Afghan border. Yeah, and It was the day that the bombing started in
Starting point is 00:14:24 Okay, so there you have it right right exactly okay in there so and it was the day that the bombing started in, okay, so there you have it, right, right, exactly. Okay. In there, so, okay, so, where are we here? Keep going to. Closer. East.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Peshawar, so go to Islamabad, and then you can see Islamabad is the capital, and Rawalpindi. You see it? No, I don't have my, I'm so blind, dude. I don't have my glasses on. Islamabad, Pakistan, there it is. It's Islamabad, Rawalpindi.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So Rawalpindi is the tradition. Oh, and Peshawar is, you can see that right there. Yeah. It looks like Peshawar, I think, I think if I can read it correctly, it's to the west. Yeah. and it's up in the mountains. So that is, anyway. So we couldn't fly, so that was the night
Starting point is 00:15:15 that the bombing campaign in Afghanistan started. And so I was flying, well, what were I doing to do with it? I just happened to be in the area. But we had a very circuitous route, and we probably took off at, I don't know, 10 at night or something. I think it's just a couple hour flight under normal circumstances, but we had to fly, I don't think we could, we had to fly all the way around. We couldn't fly over Iran, I think, which is on the first-
Starting point is 00:15:43 Oh, it's airspace stuff. Right. right on do out go out a little bit so Iran is of course right on the other side of the Persian Gulf from this way and that so Iran's right there right so yeah that's where you'd fly over Iran right so I think we had to come up through the Gulf of Oman, who to fly straight south and then up in anyway, whatever we're over the water. Yeah, at about 230 in the morning and on descent. So my guests would be without knowing because no one ever told me anything about what happened. But
Starting point is 00:16:20 probably 20,000 feet, not wheels down. But you know, coming down, it felt like we ran into something, the plane just went up, bam, and then just dropped. What? Yeah, out of nowhere. And something happened. Someone told me later who worked for Airbus that there was a bomb in the cargo hold. I don't know. All I know is the plane had a lot of trouble maintaining altitude after that and like, drop and then they would, you know know gun the engines and kind of come up sideways and just basically porpoise around in the air For what seemed like about an hour. It was probably eight minutes, but it was what I really have no perspective on
Starting point is 00:16:57 What happened or how long it took but it was it was very high drama and everyone on the plane was convinced We're gonna die and people were I could see that I was sitting in first class with all the gulf arabs You know in the robes and stuff all smoking because this was back when you could smoke on I mean you have to at that point Oh, whatever was burning marlboro's and then if you look back the back of the plane was a huge plane was all poshtuns from afghanistan and from um, you know the northwest border territories of pakistan, um and from the Northwest border territories of Pakistan, Pashtuns, the dominant tribe in Afghanistan, and they were all going to work in the Gulf.
Starting point is 00:17:30 And they're famously stoic and impressive people, supposedly related to Alexander the Great, but they're really interesting people, very interesting. And they're very emotionally controlled. And the plane is doing all this weird stuff in the air, and it's clear that we're not gonna be able to land it. And I look back and they're just sitting like staring straight ahead.
Starting point is 00:17:49 And all the Gulf Arabs with their headdresses and the marbles who are much more Western of course, they're flipping out. Whoa, go crazy. Anyway, ultimately they tried to bring it in. We wind up sideways in the sand dune. they tried to bring it in. We wind up sideways in the sand dune. And so the plane that one of the wings had partially detached and there were flames or whatever. So I got off the plane, I opened the door actually myself and took the slide down with
Starting point is 00:18:16 about four or five other Westerners who were on the plane. What? Yeah. Into the desert? Into the desert at night. And we got picked up within about, so we started, I'm thinking the plane's gonna blow up. It didn't. But I thought it was because of the fire and I just had this vision of being incinerated and so I was, I was wearing loafers exactly like these running through the sand and these things. And we got picked up by a bus, an army, a UAE army bus and put on the bus and it was, it was, it was like a hallucinogenic, it was like kaleidoscopic like these things are, you army, a UAE army bus and put on the bus.
Starting point is 00:18:45 And it was like a hallucinogen, it was like kaleidoscopic, like these things are, you know, you don't really, you have no perspective on what the hell just happened. There's no way to think about it. You have no idea how to think about it. And even now, I'm not really sure, but, and it was, gosh, I can look it up because I have the data on my calendar,
Starting point is 00:19:00 but anyway, it was like this week, 2001. And then they brought us to the Dubai airport and locked us in a room. It was only. What? Yeah, it was so weird. Why? Well, because I think.
Starting point is 00:19:14 So if you knew anything? Here I am defending the protocol, but I think what happens when something bizarre happens, like a plane winds up sideways in a sand dune in the middle of the night, you're like, oh wait, everyone needs to be questioned. Right. And so we got locked in this and then- Even if it's just like, I let somebody pack my bag?
Starting point is 00:19:29 That's exactly right. Who was that? That's exactly right. So then ultimately they put us on a BA flight to London, a British Airways flight to London. And when I got on the flight, I'll never forget this, it was me and another guy from the US, the captain was waiting for us as we walked on the plane and he handed us each bottle of champagne and said, I heard you were on that flight, you're lucky to be alive,
Starting point is 00:19:48 and that bottle of champagne is on my desk to this day. You weren't drinking already then? I was drinking hard. Oh, you weren't? I was drinking hard. I wouldn't have gotten fucking down to it right then. And I got home, actually, I got home. I went down to it right then.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And I gave up drinking and had a fourth child within a year. Really? Yes, it really changed my life. Wow. But the point is, I've been going back to UAE since then, and I've never dived on the plane, I should, but I have just seen it become, not just physically more expansive, bigger, shinier,
Starting point is 00:20:18 more obviously rich, which it has become, but I've seen it become much more like the United States once was, much more, it's hard to believe I'm saying this about, again, in this Islamic monarchy, a form of government I was trained to hate, but I'm just telling you what I've seen, it's like, I think you've got a much better chance of the rules being
Starting point is 00:20:45 enforced around business and crime there than you have here. I think you're much freer to say what you really think in public. I think there are definitely things I don't like about it. But in general, I think it's a much more, again, I can't believe I'm saying this, progressive in the true sense society. It depends on the monarch too.
Starting point is 00:21:02 The old Thai king was amazing. The new one is like kind of a schmuck. So it's like, the new one was like, let's make sure tourism happens and we can actually come out of this poverty thing. So it's like, Oh, complete control works here. If you get a guy who wants to help. Well, it does. And I'm hardly endorsing monarchy as a system of government. But I, on the other hand, I will say, you know, they have worked in some places.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I mean, Saudi Arabia has over the last 80 years become, you know, by the normal measures of is government effective, which are not theoretical, they're physical, like is life expectancy extending? Do you have more paved roads? How's literacy? How's crime? How are drug odies and suicide? Like, those are fair ways to measure the efficacy of a government.
Starting point is 00:21:46 It's been more successful than any country in Europe. I mean, how is is Europe better than it was 80 years ago? You got kids upstairs? Yeah, she just moved in. Cool. But alright, buddy, I see what you want. You got it. Does the does the dog do the podcast a lot? She does. Sometimes I know you like dogs. I love dogs. Um, that's it buddy. How would dogs there?
Starting point is 00:22:13 Strays look down upon. You know, it's funny you said that cause I actually like it so much that I've thought about, um, spending the winter there or spending, you know, we actually are spending a lot of, uh, the, some some of the winter there anyway like we did last year. But you know, spending two or three months there in the winter because it's pretty great, it just is, it's beautiful, the food is great, the people are really nice, it's completely safe, it's reasonable. Again, I'm not, you know, they're very down on drugs, so I wouldn't
Starting point is 00:22:44 get caught selling meth there, I think not, you know, they're very down on drugs. So I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't get caught selling meth there, I think that would be bad for you. But I don't wanna sell meth. Just do it. But the main thing that keeps me from doing that is my dogs. First of all, how do you, I've got three dogs, how do you get them there? How do you get them there?
Starting point is 00:22:59 Anywhere you wanna go. You've got a charter, and I can't, that's too expensive, that's insane, I don't even know what it'll cost, you can't take a king out of Dubai. Just to not put them underneath. Exactly, and then the other question is, can they run, you know, we don't use leashes on our dogs
Starting point is 00:23:13 because we don't have to, and you can't, I don't think you can run your dogs on the beach without a leash. There's a weird thing with Islam, Islam and people with dogs, where they're like, really look down on them. They start to kick at them sometimes. Some do, no, some do, and I've seen it, I mean, the British were in charge of many of those countries for a long time. And, uh. They failed on the dogs.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Well, they did. They should have instituted all this stuff. You know, people read P.G. Woodhouse still, but no, but I've known actually, honestly, I've probably known a lot of Muslims who love dogs. And, you know, I've seen it in, I've seen it in, in the United States, in the United States,
Starting point is 00:23:40 in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States. And, you know, I've seen it all this stuff. People read PG Wodehouse still, but no, but I've known actually, honestly, I've probably known a lot of Muslims who love, who really love dogs, but in general, they're not as friendly toward dogs. So that's a deal killer for me
Starting point is 00:23:57 because I'm Anglo, we love dogs. Yeah, so what did you find? Let me tell you two of my thoughts on UAE and tell them how I'm probably Yeah. How I'm probably wrong. Is that it's just greater Vegas. Yep. And there's some level of slavery, but I don't understand much. Okay, so there are a couple.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Okay, so to the first, and I'm not working for UAE, I've never taken time from anyone in UAE. I've only spent money there. Yeah, okay. So, just to be clear on that. So there are several Emirates, and I'm embarrassed. I can't remember whether it's five or seven. I think it's seven.
Starting point is 00:24:34 So let's say there are seven Emirates. There are really two you've heard of, and that's Dubai and Abu Dhabi. They're 100-ish miles apart. We're both right on the Gulf. Abu Dhabi is the seat of government, it's where the leader lives, MBZ as he's known, and they have massive oil and gas.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Okay. Dubai has no oil and gas, it has no kind of resources at all, it was a pearl diving center. The whole region had slavery, like a lot of the Islamic world had slavery and I think UAE until the 70s. And slaves were used as pearl divers. And so the economy of Dubai was tiny,
Starting point is 00:25:12 but you can see, it sticks out into the Gulf, you can see it's like a perfect spot for trading, right? Cause it's at the entry, yeah. Oh yeah, for sure. Right, so but it was, but pearl diving is not a real economy and they didn't have too many options. So they did the smartest thing ever,
Starting point is 00:25:30 which was they kind of looked at a map, it's always good to start by looking at a map, and they're like, wait a second, we're like at the perfect point between East and West, why not have like the best airline in the world? Best what? Airline. So they created this airline called Emirates, which I think is fair to say the best or one of the best airlines in the world. Best what? Airline. So they created this airline called Emirates, which I think is fair to say the best or one
Starting point is 00:25:47 of the best airlines in the world. God, it's rules. When you just happen to, when you see like the Emirates, and it's not much more expensive. No! But they treat you just like a human. Exactly. It's, or Singapore Air, same thing. Oh, it's so nice.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Which I think is also supported by the government, but they decided- Can I have, please, can I have some water everywhere else? Oh, well, on Emirates are like. Just a little water. I'm like, I'll just walk back to the saloon, mint cabin, and like, you know, get whatever you want. It's incredible. So, but they decided like, why shouldn't we be,
Starting point is 00:26:14 if you're flying from the West, Europe, US, to anywhere in Asia or the East, if you're flying to India or you're flying to Singapore or you're flying to Africa, you should fly through Dubai because it's right there. So they, and they built this airport that's just beyond. The airport itself I think has the largest, certainly date market in the world,
Starting point is 00:26:34 but I think also one of the larger golden diamond markets. There's a date market in there, in the airport? Oh, a bunch of them. Oh, they take dates really seriously there, in the Gulf. Oh yeah, you like dates? I mean, I guess, not like that. I was in Israel once and I drove to a kibbutz, not like the fun kibbutz you go to on a tour,
Starting point is 00:26:52 like let's see a kibbutz, but like an actual working, just a farm, out in the middle of nowhere because it had the best dates. And I went to the kibbutz store and just loaded up. And then I ate about half of them in the truck and just felt really sick. On the way back. Yeah, I'm driving.
Starting point is 00:27:07 It's not a fill up food. No, it's not. Well, I have problems with regulation. I'm like your dog. But anyway, so they used that airline to make Dubai famous. How interesting, that's smart. Simultaneously, you had the Lebanese Civil War, which lasted from 1975 until the mid 90s,
Starting point is 00:27:23 late 90s actually. And that kind of wrecked Lebanon, which was at one point a majority Christian country in the Middle East, to which rich people from around the region went on holiday. So if you have, if you have like theocratic countries that are, you know, don't allow you to let your freak flag fly, you need a Vegas. And that was always Lebanon, because it's beautiful, Beirut is beautiful, couple hours to go skiing.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Like at home, Lebanon has everything. Beautiful women, great food. So if you're a Saudi family and you're like, we need to relax for the weekend, you'd fly to Beirut. So Beirut kinda had all these problems because they had this horrible civil war, and then they got invaded in 82, they had all this drama. So people were like, we need a to Beirut. So Beirut kinda had all these problems because they had this horrible civil war and then they got invaded in 82, they had all this drama. So people were like, we need a new Beirut
Starting point is 00:28:09 and that really became Dubai. Somewhere safe. Somewhere safe that had liberal codes of personal conduct. So booze is not a problem? Booze. In fact, let me just summarize it in one word. Booze. Dubai had booze.
Starting point is 00:28:23 That's a humongous thing. It's a humongous, and I say this as a non-drinker, but it is a humongous thing, and you would walk into the Dubai airport and they would have like a wall of booze, just to be totally clear. We've got booze in Dubai. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Because sometimes in Emirates, if you land in Qatar or Doha, they'll be like, the stewardess is like, all right, hats on, give me your alcohol, give me your alcohol, get it off the table me Table like we're no longer safe to do this But but the whole area except I haven't I'm going to Saudi soon actually in a couple months But I'll see when I get there, but I think the the whole area has gotten more alcohol friendly That's my impression is visiting
Starting point is 00:28:59 But Dubai kind of led the way on that like you could drink in Dubai And if that may not apply to Muslims actually, I'm not really sure of the rule. Yeah, well they got their own rules, it's like it's up to you. I heard Ron Paul talking about it when he was running. They were like, well you're Christian, how would you feel about abortion?
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Starting point is 00:32:07 well wait a second, let's become a business center. So like super low taxes, I don't know if they even have personal income taxes, corporate taxes. To get more money over just the oil. Under 10%, yeah. Meanwhile, Europe was starting to kind of collapse. So all these people sent their children, and themselves went, the ruling class in all these
Starting point is 00:32:25 countries all went to school in mostly England, but also the U S like they all went to Stanford or Georgetown or whatever. Every despot. Oxford or Sandhurst. Yeah, exactly. And so they saw that Europe is kind of becoming, you know, a very hard place to do business
Starting point is 00:32:44 because of the massive welfare states and the bureaucracy that sustains them. And they're like, well, why don't we become the new kind of duty-free country? And so then they decided, because they're really longitudinal thinkers and they're smart, they're very smart, they're like, well, let's have like, let's use traditional English law for business. So in other words, if you've got a business in the UK. Copyright. Exactly, and we'll enforce all that.
Starting point is 00:33:12 So China's, it's never gonna work in China. Exactly, it can't. And one of the reasons there's like so much, someone should, much smarter than I should write a series of books about what's going on there right now. But one of the reasons they can do that is because they're secure in their authority. And I've actually seen, I've had a window into how the country's governed. And what's so interesting is how different it is from what you expect as a westerner
Starting point is 00:33:37 wedded to this idea of democracy. And the core idea of democracy, of course, is that everyone gets to say it's our country too and we have, you know, we're equity partners in the country. And in a monarchy, it's just the king makes every decision. It's a totalitarian system. And the truth is, that's not right. There's no absolute ruler of any country ever. Joseph Stalin, in the end, was murdered by his inner circle.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Even Stalin, who had as much unchecked power as anybody ever in history, in the end pissed off the wrong people and got killed, which he did. So in 1953. Chuchasko just keeps happening. You're right. It's not all so bad. It's totally right. You in the end.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Let's get rid of this guy who's costing his money. Rule by consent. Maybe not of the whole population, but certainly of the oligarchy that inevitably runs every country. Like the rich people, the big families. And in the Gulf, they have a system, a codified system,
Starting point is 00:34:28 where you meet with the ruler, usually once a week, in his yard, in his courtyard. Who meets with him? Well, there are two groups that can meet with him. In a country as small as UAE, I think there are only like a million citizens or something, any citizen can petition to meet with him, and he sits there, they sit outside
Starting point is 00:34:45 and he sits in a chair and people come up and take turns bringing their complaints to him. Every week, he does it every week. Wow, it's like Game of Thrones. He's, this guy should be the subject of a lot of studies. Wow, interesting. For many reasons. I don't wanna sound like I'm flacking for him but I just, I'm not, I'm just very impressed by him.
Starting point is 00:35:02 So it's anything from like, there's murders going on to like, I'm just guessing to like, Hey, the garbage only comes on Tuesdays. We needed it on Fridays. Oh, interesting. So the monarch sits and listens to this. And then they have separate meetings with the heads of the clans, the families, the power centers in the country, all these Emirates are all these different trans you were tried, but I don't mean it pejoratively, but like, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:24 groups of related people, and the leaders from those meet with him regularly and they bring their concerns, and so he's not gonna make a big decision without seeking some form of level of consensus from everybody. And that's why it's stable, and his approval rating is sky high.
Starting point is 00:35:39 So if you are secure, you don't need to be repressive. And one of the reasons that our government is getting more repressive is because they feel insecure. They feel like, oh, man, you know, we could have a revolution in this country, they can feel that and they're right, by the way, that they're very unpopular, both parties are very unpopular. And it makes them feel defensive. And it makes them reactionary, just like a parent would be or a
Starting point is 00:36:03 dog owner, if you feel like your dog is obedient and he pisses on the rug, you don't beat him. You're like, oh man, you pissed on the rug. Don't do that. But if you feel like your dog's out of control and giving you the finger, you flip out. And governments are the same with their people. And so that government feels very, very secure.
Starting point is 00:36:21 And so they're not repressive. Yeah, why? So that's the answer to your first question. All the all the legacy stuff is Vegas. He stuff is Dubai, though it's I would say it's more than that. It's actually a business center now. And Abu Dhabi is the seat of government. It's where the oil and gas are extracted that part of the country. And it's, you know, it's where the the ruler lives. And, and it's a beautiful place, holy smokes.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I mean, they have, for example, they have a lot of money, so they've spent it on infrastructure, not just hookers. They have hookers there? No, I'm sure they do, there are hookers everywhere, but I've never seen any hookers there, but I mean, of course they do, what am I saying? They must. Yeah, well, I don't know what everyone does for a living,
Starting point is 00:37:03 but in the lobby of a hotel, if you see a lot of Russian girls, you lobby of a hotel. If you see a lot of Russian girls, you're like, okay, but, uh, if you see a woman sitting alone in a gown, who am I? I don't know what that would do whatever you want, but just know what they are. But over there on the Abu Dhabi side, they have installed an entire desalinization plant, which is
Starting point is 00:37:23 a big thing. Israel famously has one. we should have some, we don't. It takes seawater and makes it into potable water, but they're incredibly expensive to run. The energy costs are super high, but they've got the gas, so they do it. It's just for landscaping. So this is in the middle of the desert. That's how you get that in there.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Oh, it's insane. Wow, you're right, that's the desert. So if you care about plants, and I really do, one of the problems with the desert is there are no plants. But in Abu Dhabi, and to some extent Dubai, but particularly Abu Dhabi, I mean, you drive along the roadway along the sea, and it's just like tree.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Look at that. Trees everywhere. And that's not even like in someone's yard. This is just like they've remade forests. Yes It's it's incredible and you know if you care about nature. It's like so delightful to see that so to the slavery question, okay What you're talking about are the Filipinos worker. Yeah. Yeah Filipinos Pakistanis also and so
Starting point is 00:38:23 You know the people who built all of this stuff, the laborers are not, of course, the citizens of the country. There are not many citizens of the country at all, and citizenship is a high value thing. You know, you don't have citizenship lightly, and citizenship in the UAE entitles you to free education, I think, through the doctorate level. They'll send you anywhere in the world and pay all of your expenses. It's a rich country per capita So all of their labor is imported physical labor all is imported and they've built at such a speed
Starting point is 00:38:54 That they have like I mean many times the population is living there to work and it is last I checked it was mostly Filipino and Pakistani and There have been a lot of complaints about the way that they're treated. They can't leave, like they took their passport. There have certainly been a lot of claims, and I wouldn't doubt that that's true. I know for a fact that the government sees that as like a big PR problem for them. And so to what extent they're trying to fix that, I don't know. And I'm ashamed to say I don't know as much about it other than the obvious, which is people are being exploited
Starting point is 00:39:33 for their labor, which is a pretty common arrangement through human history, and I'm opposed to it. Yeah. I do know that. But that's government, I guess. What's interesting, so they have this problem in Jordan where the Majority of the population is not true Damien. Mm-hmm because of various wars recently Syria first 1948 Palestinians coming Etc. Etc. And
Starting point is 00:39:57 It's a hard it's hard to govern a country this majority non-citizen Because there's always the fear they're gonna rise up and eat you. And that has of course been the problem the Hashemites have had in Jordan for all these years. So Rome did, it was like, you're citizens now. That's exactly right. So smart. Yeah, but it didn't work. It didn't work.
Starting point is 00:40:14 All the legions were German and they sacked Rome. But anyway, the point is, this is a huge problem in a lot of countries, particularly small rich countries, and they seem to have pretty peaceful situation, but long term, you can't have the majority of your country be non-citizens. So if I- It's gonna be a path to get there,
Starting point is 00:40:38 even Australia did that, like you're a prisoner, but you'll be a path to be free out here. There will never be a path to get there because like most countries around the world outside the West, your bloodline, your ethnicity. You can't have a Filipino citizen of UAE. I don't think so. Yeah, of an Emirate.
Starting point is 00:40:58 I don't think so. Any more than they're gonna become citizens of China or Israel for that matter. And most countries outside Western Europe and the United States are like, oh, I'm sorry, your parents weren't from here, you can't be a citizen. Yeah, yeah. Tell me what you get into when you're there.
Starting point is 00:41:16 They're gonna make you leave soon. Oh, they are, sorry. What do I get into when I'm in there? I am seeing people I like and having dinners and being sedentary. I went out into the desert last time I was there this winter, I am seeing people I like and having, you know, dinners and being kind of sedentary. I went out into the desert last time I was here this winter. I think these ladies, uh, just hiking. We went to a dinner party out at a friend's ranch out in the middle of the desert. I am in it.
Starting point is 00:41:36 We're going there again this winter for a while and I want to do falconry. I want to see falconry. Nice. Like, go get that whatever. And I think they really do all the real falconry is because it requires huge land, you know, a lot of land. Like a thousand acres is not big enough to do falconry on because these things are fast. The birds of prey are fast, but so it's mostly done in Pakistan. But I still want to go out and see it. Yeah, that'd be so cool. Want to see him get one and then come back. Want to see some kind of raptor catch a rabbit or something, that would just be amazing.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Ever see one of those in nature like at a golf course or something, and you're like, whoa, it's so wild. I see it all the time. Just grab a squirrel and just like, nope. It's so cool. I've never seen that. I've seen it with trout.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I've seen it in front of my house. Oh really? Oh, we have bald eagle nests right across from my house, and I watched them dive down and kill my trout. And I always, I shouldn't say this because it's a violation of federal law, but I want to. Wanting to is not a problem.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I want to shoot them. Yeah, okay. I want to shoot them. Because we have a lot of bald eagles. It's not like, oh my gosh, a bald eagle. It's like, oh, more bald eagles. Killing, and we don't have enough trout, so it really bugs me.
Starting point is 00:42:39 That's how they are in Iceland. They're like, oh, these whales. We got plenty here. It's not a shortage. And they are if you have it. Yeah, we got burgers, yeah. Whale's pretty good, actually. Whale's pretty good. It's not a shortage. And they are if you have it. Yeah, we got burgers, yeah. Whale's pretty good, actually. Whale's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:42:48 He's gotta know how to do it right, I guess. Remember when they were telling you in school a whale's not a fish, it's a mammal, and you're like, yeah, whatever. But then when you get whale, you're like, oh, it's surprisingly not fishy. Yeah, it's like cowry. Well, because it's not a fish.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Right, yeah. Is there like local food, or do they have like Western food everywhere? They have Western food. I love Mediterranean and Middle Eastern food. Like who doesn't actually? And it's kind of, you know, it's not so different from the Arab Quarter in Jerusalem
Starting point is 00:43:13 or anywhere in the region. It's all kind of the same. The bread is amazing. Tons of fresh ingredients. I mean they have, you know, it's Dubai, so it's like the richest city in the world. So they have whatever you want, like the best pizza and all that,
Starting point is 00:43:25 but I get enough of that. So I like the Mediterranean, don't you? Yeah, yeah, when I'm somewhere like that, I'll do it. Plus, like in Yaffo, it's just like, they all kind of get along right there, so you get the taste of everything. You get the falafel, you get the kibbeh, you get all the hummuses and everything, so it's like.
Starting point is 00:43:40 So I can just eat that. I could eat that every meal for the rest of my life. Yeah, just the spreads they have. It's insane. Where like, if you don't order like a meat, then you charge you this much. If you do that every meal for the rest of my life. Just the spreads they have. It's insane. Where like if you don't order like a meat, then you charge you this much. If you do order the meat, that's all gratis. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Nice. And I like the, I'm left-handed though, so it makes communal eating hard in some countries because your left hand is the toilet paper hand. Oh, right. And they don't like it when you dip into the hummus with your left hand. It's considered extremely offensive.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Wow, really? Oh yeah. And you're not thinking twice about it. Well my right hand barely works, it's like a watch holder, I don't even have a watch anymore. But yeah, if you, oh, just for fun, next time you're in that part of the world,
Starting point is 00:44:17 or Pakistan especially, and you're like sitting around talking, just slowly move your left hand in and watch people flip out. That's your dirty hand, like super dirty. Wow. Dirtier than your hand has ever actually been. So they'll see that and they're like, what's this?
Starting point is 00:44:33 Well it's right. I mean I get it, if it's like. It's repulsive. Yeah, to them like, you're putting a piece of, used toilet paper on it. You haven't used public men's rooms, I guess in that area. I have.
Starting point is 00:44:43 It's like, yeah. It's pretty. Yeah. Here I am talking up the region, that's one thing. I just they don't have that in Dubai is very Western Yeah, how is that there sanitary? Oh no cleaner than New York by a lot Hey UV trip and listeners Roy Wood jr. Here, and I want to tell you about my new stand-up comedy special It's hilarious and it's streaming now on Hulu. I did this special because the world has lost connection. We don't interact like we used to. You won't talk with your mom on the phone for 10 minutes but you'll listen to the stranger talk on a podcast for an hour. You can listen to the podcast and call your mom back too. We all just need a little perspective.
Starting point is 00:45:17 So don't miss my new stand-up special, Roy Wood Jr. Lonely Flowers now streaming on Hulu. Do you go outside? Well, I'm doing a joke about it now. My friends come here, like, it's so dirty. I'm like, what dirt? What are you talking about? What trash? And they're like, the piles?
Starting point is 00:45:32 I'm like, oh, right, I thought you meant more so. Yeah, the regular amount. I haven't been in New York in a while. It looks slightly cleaner. It's a little cleaner. It gets a bad rep. It gets the bad rep that a lot of things get. You're here, it's safe.
Starting point is 00:45:45 You'll see an occasional homeless person scream and moan all day. Honestly, it looks great. I'm glad, it's our biggest city. I'm rooting for New York. Obviously, I don't live here, I don't want to, but I want it to be great. So funny when I'm like,
Starting point is 00:45:56 you ever in New York? Last time I was there, you're like, no. I have a child here, so no, I want, I've spent a lot of my life in New York and I want to love New York. It rules. It's late night, daytime, small underground jazz scenes. So no, I want I've spent a lot of my life in New York and I want to love new it rules It's late night daytime Small underground jazz scenes. No, I know it's oh that is also cool it's I just feel like New York is like an ex-wife who I was once in love with and she just went bad and moved to
Starting point is 00:46:17 Tows and became a lesbian and yeah, you know what I mean? It's like a parrot to what it was before in a kind of yeah, I wanted to come back from You know what I mean? It's like. Yeah, you compare it to what it was in a different time. Kind of, yeah. I wanted to come back from Towers. I want a good comparison. You know what I mean? I loved her once. Man, she was hot. You should have seen her in 95. She's all in the crystals now. It's not the same chick.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I'll double. I'll let you wrap up. Fuck, I wanted to talk more about this, but. You should go there. You would love it. Yeah. I went to you wrap up, fuck, I wanted to talk more about this. You should go there, you would love it. Yeah, I went to Egypt from Israel, my Israeli family, like why? I'm like, what do you mean, see the pyramids, like why?
Starting point is 00:46:52 I'm like, what? Okay, so Cairo has what, almost 20 million people? Someone told me the other day, in fact this week, someone just come back from Cairo. He has one in this whole area. Yeah, I know. Cairo has no traffic laws? Bro, I was on the highway with a cab driver who said,
Starting point is 00:47:15 I put my seatbelt on, he goes, you actually don't have to wear those here. I'm like, oh, okay. And he goes, so take it off. It was like a man, I was like, you want me to do more work, take it off, as he's moving into the oncoming traffic of a highway to get around a crater.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I love him. And I'm like, I mean, all right. I don't wanna be a puss, so I'm like, okay. I love that. But it's like in and out of oncoming on a highway. It's so great. That's what I love about it. Do you remember right after 9-11
Starting point is 00:47:43 when everyone, including me, was spun up into this, we hate Arabs, we hate Muslims, all that stuff, and I remember going over there and hearing the phrase inshallah, which means like, you know, it's up to God. Yeah, okay. And I remember thinking, I agree with that. It's up to God. Kind of, like it kind of is, like I don't know,
Starting point is 00:48:00 five year olds get leukemia, why is it? I don't know. Yeah, there's no. Right? Do you know what I mean? It's like your car crashes when your car crashes. Yeah, you wanna say this explanation, but I'm like, hey, here,
Starting point is 00:48:09 I'm gonna get this guy mad at me if I wear a seatbelt. Don't wear a seatbelt. I almost never crash. So, okay, she'll be fine. So did you take it off? Yeah, I had to. Oh, bless you. Emotionally.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Bless you. Yeah. Do we met a guy in Ecuador who was like Amazonian, and he goes, hey, in slight Spanish, this is October of 2020, he goes, hey, I have the cure for COVID, do you want it? And we're like, some guy with like linen pants and no shirt and I'm like, how am I gonna say no thanks?
Starting point is 00:48:36 So I'm like, all right, I'll go into your home. His dad is on a couch, like probably heavy COVID, he was like dying. And I'm like, well, we're in it. We're in it. We have to. And he gave us this elixir. He said, drink a capful every day.
Starting point is 00:48:49 How was it? Disgusting. Six months, didn't get COVID once. Actually? Yeah. What'd he charge you? Nothing. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:48:58 It's an upsell. He goes, you should just have this. Cause we're trying to get the word out. This stuff all grows. It's all whatever respiratory. so we know the cure. It's like a little bit of coconut husk, this. Did you see trails at all? No, it wasn't that.
Starting point is 00:49:12 I saw, I did other stuff there, but. It wasn't ayahuasca. No, it was not. So I actually believe, I don't know anything about the compound that you ingested, but I mean. Then they were selling it at bars in the Amazonian towns. They said once they realized it was respiratory, they said it ravaged the Amazon.
Starting point is 00:49:32 And then they said, oh, it's respiratory. Oh, here's the cure for that. And it worked. They said it went like that and then that. I don't know, I didn't get it. And it wasn't off patent. It was just never patented. It was just like, oh, let me show you. It was in a, it was in a water bottle that he filled it up with his hand.
Starting point is 00:49:52 And then it just like take one capful every day. Oh, I just love this. I love these people. Yeah. Yeah. We're like, but it was that thing of like, I can't say no, I don't want this world saving cure right now. So I'm like, are you telling me to take my seatbelt off? I'm gonna. Well, but also you wonder like if you're in some random place and a random person comes up to you, I know you're like between religions right now. But former yeshiva student, former yeshiva student, you know that like there is a supernatural world. Like people appear, events happen for a reason. And if some shirtless guy in linen pants is like, do you want the cure for COVID?
Starting point is 00:50:35 The only answer is yes, I do. Cause who knows why you're there. It's only like, oh, I don't respect you. If it's a homeless guy here says, I'm like, no, but like, you got to like drop that. This guy's not homeless. He's just living in the jungle. But even if he, even if a homeless person, there are moments when we receive messages from some, I'm just saying, it's just true from some larger force,
Starting point is 00:50:57 whatever you want to call it through unlikely people. That is true. That's happened to you, hasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, you too. I'm sure you die of COVID. I hold on. No, no. Right. Right. Yeah. Before I let you go, I got two questions. I ask everybody travel tips, general travel tip, like pack light is a common one. Um, uh, if you take mushrooms with
Starting point is 00:51:20 you, put it in your granola, um, whatever, get a good toiletries back. And then one place with you, put it in your granola, whatever, get a good toiletries bag, and then one place like you are, is calling you. Travel tips I've got. Somebody else, never bring a bag that you can't run with through a large airport, okay? Brush your teeth with bottled water always. Never eat shellfish. If you distrust the food, eat only rice and Mars bars.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Go full carb. I'm serious. You'll never get sick from carbs. You get fat on the trip, and I always do. I just did again on a trip. I'm going to lose it next week. You can lose the weight. I'm there. I'm there with you. Okay. So those are my travel tips. And by the way, stay sober on airplanes. Do not get shitfaced on an airplane. I once drank an entire case of beer by myself from Narita to Dallas. I'm still hungover for it, and that was like over 20 years ago.
Starting point is 00:52:09 So stay off the booze. As for places that are calling my name, I mean, there are so many, but I wanna go to Pyongyang. Pyongyang. Just talked to Michael Mallis, who went. Did he really? That's North in Korea, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I took a trip out there
Starting point is 00:52:26 What did he say? He said it was Rich and poor at the same time like built up like a monarchy, but then like not maintained so these like beautiful fountains, but then like a grosser version of it and like They just don't have much Much money, but they want to appear like they do. Yes. But he enjoyed it. I wanna go, I've been, I met Kim Jong-un. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:54 And I've been several feet into North Korea, and my vantage from there, as a DMZ, was that it looked beautiful, so mountainous, and I just wanna see it. Yeah, right, it'd be cool. Plus, so mountainous. And I just wanna see it. Yeah, right? Plus, often nobody goes. But I also wanna go to Estonia, which is right across from Finland,
Starting point is 00:53:12 and it's got some of the smartest people in the world, some of the best contact bridge players in the world. Contact bridge? Yeah, and chess. The Estonians are, I think- Wait, I'm sorry, what's contact? Is that like full contact? Yeah, it's sortians are, I think. Wait, I'm sorry, what's contact, is that like full contact? Yeah, it's sort of UFC plus card playing.
Starting point is 00:53:30 No, contact bridge is a kind of bridge, bridge the card game. But anyway, the point is, oh there it is, right? Right, okay. But it's also one of the sources of modern sauna culture. So everyone associates the sauna with Finland correctly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:48 And I've actually been on a sauna trip to Finland. But Estonia shares the sauna glory and the history. And I just want to, I've always wanted to see it. I'm addicted to nicotine and sauna. Those are the two things I really love. And dogs. And oh yeah. dogs yeah all good for you yeah buddy we could do this a thousand times let me know your time
Starting point is 00:54:11 you're but I'm going to I'm sorry I just wasn't something I could no I know couldn't get out of it yeah I try to keep this like this vibe low pressure enough to be like hey I'm running like this is supposed to be fun well I've loved it thank you thanks buddy yeah it's so cool to Great to see you and congrats on your city not falling down. Thanks. Well everybody that was the episode. Thank you very much Tucker Carlson for coming in. I wish I had more time with him. Dude we talked about Jerusalem when I was over at his place and it's just like he's just got a spirit of someone who's willing to try stuff. It's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:55:05 That list of that list of travel recommendations. Oh, I mean, he's ready to go. It was a bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad. That's done me. The guy rules everybody. And I hope you understand what I'm doing in February is taking people that have some people can't see the positive of them last week was Burt and John my god the comments did you guys see those
Starting point is 00:55:31 this Burt just Burt get that every time oh my god I thought I had them bad it was a great episode it was like something like pass hard pass my I thought I get that but it was like everyone you guys are retarded Yeah, but anyway it was great this is great It's like if you can't focus on the positive on Tucker Carlson if you're a hardcore liberal don't be an idiot It was just a good travel podcast about the UAE if you can't Bert Kreischer didn't squeal once on that episode he didn't interrupt once because I fed to him somewhere Bert Kreischer's a home going you're feeding to me my stomach is burning anyway next week what are we doing next week is it
Starting point is 00:56:23 North Korea which Which is also misunderstood, like you know, find the positive in such a crazy place. Or do we do Segura? Shit, I should have done more about my special if we did Segura. Anyway, I'll talk to Tom. What do you guys... I should have planned this out better. Okay, next week either Tom Segura or Michael Malice going to North Korea. Guys, watch America Sweetheart. Please tell your friends about it. There's nowhere to post about it or donate to me, but you can buy a shirt to help me pay for the stuff that Netflix did not pay for.
Starting point is 00:56:53 And anyway, just get your Feitelberg shirt, get your Stay Positive shirt. Wear it with pride. I'm also on tour at rechefere.com right now. For all of that, you can go and see me in Brea California Nashville Tampa Denver I can do it by heart San Antonio San Jose Fort Lauderdale Orlando Denver I got it see it Portland Atlanta that's one weekend Seattle Vancouver Calgary Edmonton Anchorage I think I got a mulch on bird fuck that's it for the show everybody.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Asalaamu Alaikum to all of you. Until next week with somebody, either Segura. Wait, that was the plan, I fucked it up. I said I'd save it, I meant to do it this week. Segura. Bye everybody.

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