You'll Hear It: Full Album Deep Dives with Jazz Musicians - 7 Hip Tracks You Don't Know Nuthin' 'Bout - #7

Episode Date: September 4, 2018

In this episode, Peter and Adam discuss some of their favorite non-jazz tracks you might not have heard before. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:16 I'm Adam Anas. And I'm Peter Martin. And you're listening to the You'll Here at Podcast. Daily Jazz Advice coming at you? Or what it's becoming? Other kinds of music. Coming at you daily. Well, just this week, we're having fun listening to new stuff and kind of, I mean,
Starting point is 00:00:29 I didn't even know you liked some of this music. This is great. Yeah. You thought I was one of those jazz please, old heads. Yeah, new level of friendship right here, buddy. That's how we do it, man. Well, brought to you by Open Studio as always. We're here in the Podcave.
Starting point is 00:00:41 The beautiful Podcave, just black sound dampening material. You got our engineer Andrew over here. It's a little claustrophobic in here, but it's such a warm and welcoming vibe. I don't mind being, you know. Yeah. I mean, you know, we have one open wall. That's nice. Got the Kranick and Bach.
Starting point is 00:00:57 What's up? Big shout out to Kranick and Bach, New York. A upright piano that sounds terrible. They've got a patent. They've got a patent. Is that patent still valid? August 11th. I like it's so specific.
Starting point is 00:01:08 They printed it on the front of the piano. August 11th, 1896. Yeah, yeah. I think that's expired. Just in case it wasn't August 15th. What is, happening about this. I don't understand. I don't know, man. There's nothing really special about it. An old two pedal upright, wood. Yeah. Yeah. All right. There you go.
Starting point is 00:01:25 All right. So what are we talking about today? Today we are talking about seven hip tracks. You don't know nothing about it. That's right. No, you don't know nothing about them. No, I don't. Nobody knows nothing about it. Now, we got to be careful because you and I love music, but there's some folks out there that really love to listen to music. Right. We're going to get, we are already going to get emails from this about like, I know all these. You guys, you know. Well, no, if somebody really knows all these, I'll be impressed. I was, you know, because we're going in some different directions here. And this came out of yesterday's kind of guilty pleasure, shameful thing.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Yeah. And really what this is about, I think, is to kind of, we were looking through our collections, both of us individually, finding some tracks that we really think are hip and that people might not know. And although we do kind of get into a little bit of jazz or jazzy, but this is really more along the lines of, you know, pop, hip hop, R&B, rock, different kinds of things, but maybe with a little jazzy under or overtones. Well, we are jazz musicians. We are.
Starting point is 00:02:21 We are. We are. Despite the evidence of the past two episodes. Jazz police are not allowed here, but we do love jazz. All right, so what do we got? Number one, what do you got? Okay, so this first track, why don't you go ahead and start playing it while I talk about it? Because it has a kind of a long intro, as I recall.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Okay. This is Breathing Underwater by Hiatus Coyote. Hyatis Coyote is a great name for an artist. Isn't that great? And it kind of makes me think of. of like wild e. coyote from the bugs bunny. Someone who definitely grew up in California, possibly, on a commune. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Possibly taking part in some marijuana smokage, apparently. No, I don't think so. Straight-laced hiatus. Yeah, but I heard this, I think, last year, and I don't really know anything about the group. But I really like them. And I'll tell you in a second. We'll just get to hear it just a little bit of this.
Starting point is 00:03:13 It's a little hipster listening party. Come with me, Adam. This is like a... I feel like Bob Boylan from NPR Music. That's right. All songs consider it. Yeah. This is kind of some extended, you know, pop stuff, but a little bit more adventures in terms of the length and the forms and stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:39 You know, some good live playing. At least it sounds that way. I like this a lot. Yeah. Yeah. And I actually heard this like in a hipster coffee shop. and just like put up my phone and said baseline.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Yeah, that's really nice, man. Just held up my phone and said, Siri, what is this? You shazammed it? I shazammed it, that's right. And just kind of added it, that's how it got in my collection. That's great, man. Breathing underwater. Love it.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Yep. All right, so for my number one, I'm going with, this is an old schoolmate of mine from the new school. He's a couple years younger than me, but he came up to school and it was like, whoa, this kid can, like, play. and he's got all these awesome synthesizers. He actually plays straight ahead jazz really, really well.
Starting point is 00:04:25 He's played with Pat Martini. Pat Martini. Pat Martini and Rossi. And a bunch of other folks. Frank LaCrasto is his name. Great pianist. But he puts out these records under the name LaCrosto. He's got all these amazing old analog synthesizers.
Starting point is 00:04:41 This is from his album a couple of albums ago, I think. This track is called Hotels. Nice. And it's just super vibey. He's from Texas. So everything kind of feels like, you know, the West Texas planes. It does. It's very obnoxious.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Yeah. But I just think he's super creative, makes some really interesting music, and can actually play. I love the atmosphere already. I mean, he has a straight-ahead record on Max Jazz, and then has all this stuff, too. He's very interesting guy. I love this kind of groove with brushes. That's such a slick thing, you know. Hotels.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Nice. So check it out. All right, what do you got? So, and I just want to mention two to full. We're going to list and name all these at the end. So don't feel like you have to write them down. Or get your pencil ready, you can write it down at the end. How about that?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Sounds good. Okay. So next, this was one that I listened to a lot. I love this, I love this song. I love this track. I don't know, there's just something about it. This is probably the closest coming into sort of the jazz world. And this is Chris Mindoki from the Mindoki Brothers out of Denmark.
Starting point is 00:05:49 He's the bassist, of course, his older brother, amazing pianist. Niels, but this is a while back actually on Blue Note. He did a record. It's called like, I can't remember it's something about jazz life or something. But this is, I just want to stop. And it features Layla Hathaway.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And there's this big extended bass intro, which is actually really nice. I saw it's kind of skip ahead in it. And then finally I sort of listened to it. Look out. You can play. Well, it's like this whole section is totally unrelated to what's coming next.
Starting point is 00:06:21 But then it's got this nice little seg. way you wrote here. I don't even know who's on piano. I should. It might be Neels. But then, you know, when Layla comes in, it's just magical. A little bit unrelated, though. He's got a great bass sound, though. Harmonics? What? That's really nice. And you know what this song is?
Starting point is 00:06:57 Is this like a pop song someone else's done? Yeah, yeah. And I kept trying to remember, what is it in some? what the guy's name is. I can picture him. But Layla is just... Gino Vanelli. Oh, I love Geneal Vineli. Georgie Porteepard.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Yeah, yeah, man. Great songwriter, great singing. Totally. I like that. But that's a nice one. Chris Mindoki. Chris Mindoki. I just want to stop.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I just want to stop. And then, yeah, and then Layla Hathaway singing, of course, covering Gino Vanelli's great song. And then there's later on, there's great David Sanborn, St. Louis's own, our friend. David Sanborn, friend of the podcast?
Starting point is 00:07:35 We don't know. We don't know that he's not. He's amazing, though. Yeah, but David Sandor has a great saxo on there. All right, I'm going, I'm taking it back a little bit. This is one of my favorite sort of late 80s, early 90s, hip-hop groups called Organized Confusion. That's Confusion with a K. Of course.
Starting point is 00:07:53 I mean, is there any other way? Fudge, Pudge. A lot of jazz influence in their samples. New York Cats, man. You can hear it. They're hard. They're all up in your face. All up in your face.
Starting point is 00:08:20 This would have a very bass line driven too, man. Oh man. All their music, all their beats and everything are so, like, of that era, so good. A lot of jazz influence, like they've sampled like Steely Dan and... Who was that first sample that piano? I don't know. I've been trying to figure it out. It's great, man.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I love these hip-hop producers, and I think about like Dilla and, you know, now they kind of, you know, Glasper is great at this. as far as like getting that essence of something from an old track, just that one little nugget, you know, and laying it down. Because, I mean, it's just so grew. I mean, what we have in the jazz world, we got groove for days. It's like Stevie Wonder said. We got too many, you know, and the hip-hop cats can really grab just one little nugget
Starting point is 00:09:07 and do some great things with it. All right. What do we got next? So, okay, well, so you're talking hip-hop old school. That gets me thinking about E-P-M-D going all the way back to the 80s. And, you know, kind of late 80s, mid-late 80s, they came out with the record called Strictly Business that was just the bomb. This is actually from when they got back together, back in business in like the late 90s. And this has never seen before.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And, you know, they sampled the baseline from the meters. Just kiss my baby. You know, New York, yeah, Long Island. Long Island. B. Oh, we're going to have to put explicit up on our head. But that grew.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And that's the great, you know, George Porter's bass line, of course. Ooh, that's good stuff. What year is this record? Do you know? This is, like, late 90s. Late 90s? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:00 That's good, man. But they, I mean, they came out in the late 80s, and, like, they had that, what was it, the, they sampled a Bob Marley on their first big hit. I mean, it was kind of underground, actually, but it was, if you were into hip hop then, like, in the 80s, LP.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I remember getting that at vintage vinyl, St. shout out. But then they had like a, they had all these quarrels within the band. It's Eric Sermon and I forget the other guy's names, but that they, they were fighting and they broke up and this is when they got back together. That's great, man. Yeah. All right, so I'm going to go late 80s with my next one. This is the band Talk Talk, who had some pop hits in the early 80s. But then they released this record Eden in like 89. And this is the first track called The Rainbow. The production is Well, there you go.
Starting point is 00:10:48 You can hear it. Placement. Atmosphere. Check out the guitar on the piano. They form this groove of these really amazing chords. I love this stuff. I'm such a sucker. Every sound is so, like, pristine and thought out and placed perfectly.
Starting point is 00:11:13 But there's some great applications for what we do in terms of jazz production volumes that you can learn from this kind of situation. That's a harmonica. going through, you know, like a blues master or something like that, a twin. That's awesome. I mean, what a vibe that sets up. I mean, kind of like some of the earlier, like, moving underwater. It's like this atmospheric thing. And then when the vocals come in, it's like, it's like a great intro.
Starting point is 00:11:43 It's a good driving music that. Talk, Talk, the Rainbow. Check it up. Nice. Good stuff. Cool. Well, okay, next, I'm going to go with something that's a little bit more recent. And this is, now we're getting into an area that those,
Starting point is 00:11:56 those of you that are into kind of creative pop and R&B might know about this guy. This is number seven? This is number seven. I'm cool with that one, two, three. Yep. This is Molly music. Just mute the auto tune on my league right now. I love got a little studio banter thrown in there.
Starting point is 00:12:14 He said take the auto tune off. I enjoy the studio banter. I was like, dang, you had it on before? If it was a need you had. If it wasn't me, you had. Great. guitar sound, nice vocal. And this is crying.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Yeah, goes right into the groove there. But Molly music is great. He's out of Detroit, and I think he came out of the church. He sounds like it. I think I read that. And he, great producer, writer, singer, you know, musician, plays a lot of this stuff. Love it. Love it.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Now, I know we said we're doing seven. So those are seven. Oh, that's a hip part, too. Y'all got to get the track. All right, we're going to give it to him. We'll give it to him a little bit. What? DJ Adam, what a.m.
Starting point is 00:13:19 He's a great vocal arranger, too. Wonderful vocal arrangements on there. That's cool. With the harmony and stuff. So that's our seven hip tracks. You don't know nothing about, but I got a little surprise for you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:30 So, and I just want to say, you guys can't see this way. you can kind of see it on YouTube. Big shout out YouTube. What's up? But Adam Bannis here has been doing an amazing thing. This sounds like a highly produced podcast, which we are. But we're actually doing this live.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Like Adam is DJing. He's talking about this. This is all being produced live in real time. We still have only, well, I think we edited it twice, the politically incorrect time and some technical errors on another time. But this is all done live. And Adam's doing an amazing job. But I'm going to take over for just a minute because I want to have a bonus track here
Starting point is 00:14:02 that y'all don't know nothing about unless you know about the 442s, which some of you do, but that's Adam's that he found it. I can get it. Can you get that? Yeah, sure. How about a little motto? I love motto, man. I can do some motto. Yeah. This is from the record relay, I believe, right? Yep. It's our last
Starting point is 00:14:18 record featuring Peter Martin. Weirdly enough. Wow. That's not why I named it, but hello. Yeah, we recorded this over at Powell Hall, which is the Symphony Hall here in St. Louis. That's a little Montez-Colman on. It's Montez. drums.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Bjorn Randheim, Sean Wiles. Good production on this. Good engineering. Good placement. A little celeste. Ah. Kind of genre bending, if I might say so myself. You pride ourselves on that.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. A little motto. I haven't heard that in a while. You know you make these things. Oh, you never listen to them.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And you spend like months listening and listening and listening and trying to make sure everything's right. Well, interesting thing about that record relay, and I love the, it's got, it's a beautiful cover. It doesn't feature anybody in the band. It's just a beautiful design. Ashley Villarreal. Huh? Ashley Villarreal is the artist who did it. She's great.
Starting point is 00:15:28 But that is the only CD I have in my car. So I actually do listen to this a fair amount. Nice. Because sometimes I get in the car and it kind of goes straight to a CD. It's always in there. It just comes on and I usually listen to it. That's cool. We had a great time making that record.
Starting point is 00:15:40 That was fun. Great record. Go to The 442.com if you want to pick that bad boy. Or Spotify. It's on Spotify, right? On Spotify. Yeah, yeah. If you want Adam.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Adam's kids to have about one penny in seven years from royalties. Go listen to it a thousand times on Spotify. Big shout out to Spotify. Or you can go to you'll hear it.com and you can leave us a voicemail or a message or a question or check in. You can buy a You'll Hear It T-shirt like I'm wearing right now YouTubers. I love it. A cassette t-shirt. I want one.
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Starting point is 00:16:23 Okay, sounds good. And we've got to recap. Oh, yeah, we've got a recap. My bad. My bad. Yeah, go ahead. Okay. So we're going to go through those seven again.
Starting point is 00:16:31 And look, if you want, hit us up on Twitter. We're trying to up our Twitter game. Yep. Right. Hey, Open Studio. Yeah. Hey, hey, at Hey, Open Studio. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Like, hey. Hey. Hey, what's up, Open Studio. And let us know what you think about this episode. But we had A-tracks today. plus a bonus. First was breathing underwater by hiatus coyote. That's H-I-A-T-U-S. Hiatus. Can we make a, wait, could we make a Spotify play. We can make a Spotify playlist for you'll hear it, couldn't we? Temporary Bobcat.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Wait, I want that. Check that, Andrew. Temporarybopcat.com. I do have a Spotify playlist on this. Can we make that public? Yeah, I think so. Okay, we're going to link to that somewhere. If we don't, hit us up on Twitter. And then second we had Locrasto That's your boy Yeah, Locrasto hotels
Starting point is 00:17:22 Hotel And then we had Chris Mindoki On Blue Note I Just Want to Stop is the name of the track Then we had fudge Pudge Organized Confusion EPMD
Starting point is 00:17:32 What? Never seen before Then we had Talk Talk Doing the Rainbow Molly music Doing his song Crying And then the 442s Moto, M-O-T-O.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Nice, man. I like it. Yeah. What else we got? Go to you'll hear it.com for everything. You'll hear it, like you said. Please leave us a rating review. We're getting some love on iTunes. We got a new logo up there.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Got a new logo. We finally, I don't know if you know about this. We got categorized correctly. In iTunes? Yes, due to yours, truly, PM. What were we categorized? Education. Oh, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Yeah, now we're music. Good. Yeah, it was weird. We were education and music, but it was defaulting to education. Not that we don't feel like we're educating the people. Yeah. Hey, man, I've enjoyed these listening episodes. We should do some with jazz next time.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Yeah. You know, a little bit of there. So tune in tomorrow. We're going to do, it's Wednesday tomorrow. So we'll be doing our solo analysis. That'll definitely be jazz. Should we tell them what it is or just they got to tune in? Yeah, what's the track we're doing tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:18:35 We're going to go to a very deep track that they don't know nothing about. Freddie Freeloader by Winnie Kelly. Well, we promise. I'll miss that before the break. I love it. I'm looking forward to it. All right. Well, tomorrow we'll see you.
Starting point is 00:18:48 You'll hear it.

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