You'll Hear It: Full Album Deep Dives with Jazz Musicians - A Comments Section Retrospective
Episode Date: April 5, 2019This week of YHI ends with Peter and Adam reading some of their favorite comments from recent episodes. Check out the episodes mentioned below:7 Reasons People Hate Jazz: https://www.youtube....com/watch?v=UxpueLaBeso7 Tracks That Give Us Chills: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHgyymujgFwSolo Analysis: Roy Hargrove "Strasbourg/St. Denis:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLU3LEUwXh04 Basic Chord Voicings Every Jazz Musician Should Know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orCNZHqTX90"All of You" Solo Analysis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTy4GMYlS3oToday's episode is sponsored by the Oxford American. The Oxford American is a magazine dedicated to documenting the complexity and vitality of the American South. Its award-winning annual music issue comes with a CD sampler and digital download - a must-have for any serious music fan. Recent issues have featured Nina Simone, Thelonious Monk, John Cage, and John Cage. Visit https://www.oxfordamerican.org/yhi today for a special subscription discount!Let us know what you think by leaving a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review, or head over to our YouTube channel and leave a comment for this episode.Interested in more jazz advice? Go here to browse our catalog of jazz lessons and courses available for purchase.Follow us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram at:https://www.facebook.com/heyopenstudiohttps://twitter.com/heyopenstudiohttps://www.instagram.com/heyopenstudio See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
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Hey, Adam.
What's up?
Do you ever retrospect?
I try not to in front of other people.
What about spec?
I'm Adam Anis.
And I'm Peter Martin.
And you're listening to the Yule Here podcast.
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Okay, so today we're going to have...
We're going to have a kind of a little bit of what I predict to be a jumbled mess of a Friday episode.
Are you up for that?
I'm always up for a jumbled mess.
You know that about me.
So we started out the week with a little bit of Tom Foolery, as they would say.
Oh, we had some fun.
We had some fun with our listeners, yeah.
And so we're not going to, we're not like shutting her down.
We're going to do a full retrospective, but we wanted to dive into some of the comments and we realized that, you know, perhaps just from some of our wonderful listener comments and even links, we found some exciting things in catching up that we think can make a whole episode.
So we're going to look back.
Or at least a jumble mess.
Or maybe it might be a jumble mess, but I think we might pull this together.
We'll see.
But you'll hear it.
One of our most watched on the YouTube, do you know we're on the YouTube's?
I've heard.
Yes.
I try not to go there.
We're on the YouTube's.
But did you know, fun fact about you'll hear it?
We have not always been on the YouTube's.
It's actually, I think we started in August or September.
So maybe halfway through, not even, right?
Earlier.
Earlier.
June 30th, my friend.
That was our first one.
2018.
So, yeah, so about a little more than half.
Six, five, six months after we started.
Right.
Kind of halfway through last year.
But we really didn't commit to it.
Like, we didn't go in with the pod cave till September October.
I mean, I'm looking at us on that first episode right now.
I mean, we're all exposed.
No pod cave on.
Totally slapsed.
But the first episode, you know what the first episode was on the YouTube's that we had video?
Seven reasons people hate jazz.
Oh, I do know that because I get messages when we get new comments on YouTube.
And that's number one on the YouTube playlist.
It's a terrible episode.
And it's people take it seriously.
Like they see it for the first time.
They don't know anything about the You'll Hear podcast.
And it's become this comment reservoir for people who actually do hate jazz.
So it's because we were joking.
We actually, the episode defends jazz.
Right.
And maybe do are people like going on YouTube or Google and searching I hate jazz?
I think so.
Would they come to this?
That might be a search term that comes up.
Our podcast of why people hate jazz by two jazz musicians who love jazz,
defending it.
And but the comments are ridiculous too.
I don't know.
I haven't seen them all, but maybe you can.
Well, let's delve into a couple of them.
I would love that.
The first one I see is I hate jazz because I'm too lazy and or not smart enough to appreciate how great it is.
Question mark.
At least you're honest.
L-O-L.
I'm just having some fun.
They're being facetious.
There's a lot of that.
That's what I got a lot.
And then from Lobowski, 53, my fundamental problem with jazz is that the musicians are having more fun than the audience.
Now, that one, I think I might have answered this back.
Yeah, I said, good point.
I think that when jazz is executed well, the audience is having just as much fun along with the musicians.
And then somebody said a lot of the time, they're playing for themselves and not the audience.
Ooh, it just got real up in here.
Well, but you know what?
That's every, first of all, I have a lot to say about this.
I don't know about you.
So this actually could spark a pretty long conversation because...
And joy?
No, like, that's with any music.
There's things on the spectrum of art for art's sake,
and there's things on the spectrum of, you know, popular music
of any genre of music.
So jazz, yes.
Some people are going to go to Harry Connick and have a great time.
Some people are going to, you know, listen to Paul Blay
and appreciate that for what it is.
Well, that's not a carried away, buddy.
No, you know what I mean?
Like, it's, it's like abstract poetry or something.
Right.
It's, it's about the building blocks of this thing.
So who are you to, you know what I mean?
Like, I feel like I'm glad someone's doing both of those things.
Yeah.
Even if most of us fall somewhere in the middle of that spectrum.
So I feel like that's a BS argument.
You can go to a rock show that goes above your head too.
Variety is the spice of life.
Is that what you're trying to say?
Totally.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So there were some other ones.
This is back at a time, I think, when I was jumping out of the comments and you weren't, as in the entire history of this show.
When did I ever jump in?
I don't want to go negative.
We're going to go positive in a second, but this was, I don't know.
Jazz musicians love, this is from politically incorrect.
That's their username.
Jazz musicians love to portray themselves in their music as more sophisticated or lofty.
Sorry, but 90% of the time, it's not true.
They love to believe they make good music when they improvise.
They don't.
Most of the time it sucks.
But 10% of the time, we're killing it is that.
So you're saying there's a chance.
You're saying there's a chance.
And so my reply was just,
quote, jazz is stupid from
Angela the office. That was my reply.
And she did say that. Yeah.
Sounds like someone doesn't understand jazz.
Yeah. And then this was, I just want to end on this negative note.
Perfect Rhythm, UK said, this makes me
to test jazz all the more.
Now that I love. That's a great comment.
The fact that our podcast made him hate jazz even more coming in off of a search
of I hate jazz.
That makes me proud of ourselves.
I'm proud of what we built here, friend.
You can go on and all.
But if you want to check that out, we'll put a link below to seven reasons.
People hear Hey, Jazz on the YouTube season one.
I'll tell you what, God bless the YouTube comments.
Because, you know, we get nothing but love on like the podcast apps and Apple and Spotify and emails that come in and voicemails.
They're so nice.
And people don't hold back on YouTube.
It's an interesting thing.
Like the podcast listeners, it's a different, I don't want to say it's a different class of listeners because that would be what they say is classists.
Yeah.
Classically classists, I might even say.
But it's a different, I can't say breed, because that would not be appropriate, a different type of person, a different type of listener.
Yeah, they're thoughtful.
We love them all. We love them all. We just love that audio listeners more. That's not true at all.
No, no, no. You know what it is? I think there are more kind of casual searchers that just come, which is great.
Well, and it's anonymity as well. Right. You know, the people on YouTube don't put their name or have their email address in there.
Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Well, I don't think they do on a podcast either.
Well, no, they, on iTunes. Yeah, sometimes. No, it's always like, you know. Oh, I guess that is anonymous.
You know, green gorilla from Wisconsin or whatever, USA.
There's something about YouTube where it's brutal out there, but it's good.
I like it.
I like the negative.
But I think podcasts, like you're a little, like you're not generally going to be just listening to make fun of us because we're not that charming.
And if you're not interested in what we're saying, which is fine, you just don't stick around.
Whereas YouTube, you could kind of, I mean, there's some funny stuff to look at in some of these video, just the way we were kind of presenting it.
Sure.
Well, we're also pretty funny looking.
Exactly.
Also, fun fact, if you want to do a little chronology of Adam Manus' keto journey, you can look back at them.
When did you enter ketosis?
What month was that?
It sounds like I have an illness.
No, I started, yeah, with the keto thing in October.
Okay, so you can look at the videos and see that journey, which has really been an amazing thing as he goes from gigantic to gaunt over.
I told you, this can be a jumbled mess, my friend.
It is.
Okay, so here's an episode just for a few days ago,
and I wanted to, I really, some of these comments really,
I just saw them and they kind of resonate with me,
but this was our seven tracks.
They give us chills.
Yeah.
And this was some of our just apex.
That was a great episode, by the way.
Pat ourselves in the back for that.
I mean, great for us because they're ones that give us drills.
And hopefully, you know, we can share some of that,
but I think everybody identifies even,
it's different for everyone and it should be.
But beautiful music for life said,
Bram from Arcelas has lots of these moments in his playing.
One example is his solo in Mo Better Blues.
It starts about 113 after the melody and with a link to it on YouTube.
And this was so cool because when I looked at it's Thank You Beautiful Music for Life.
It made me realize and kind of validated.
I was like, Brantford's one of those players.
I mean, there's a lot, but he's one of those players that hits that kind of
goosebumps-inducing, giving us chills moments quite a bit.
And I'm thinking back, I've had a pleasure of playing with him live.
And he kind of does it more than most other players that I've been around.
He's just one of those, he has that ability to push it to 11 in terms of just spirit and the music.
So big shout out to Brantford.
And it's cool that somebody else kind of heard it too in another place.
And I never thought about it in that Mobetter Blues because that's never been like my favorite kind of soundtrack.
And I mean, it's cool.
I know a lot of people love that tune.
But when I went and checked that spot, whoever wrote this, they are absolutely on point.
So that was fun to kind of get that back.
Another Bramford moment.
I think the one I put in ours was about Stella by Starlight with Ellis Marcellus.
That was, yeah.
I really like, I know that was just.
a recent episode, but, you know, we do so many of these, and some just stand out as we're doing
them.
We do it our day.
Erridae is we saying.
Maybe this jumble mess can turn into a bit of our, you know, our selected favorites.
Yes.
You know, is what I'm thinking.
And then some other comments real quick on that same.
We'll link to this below two seven tracks to give us chills.
Somebody said, Brichontish 13, cringe-worthy intro in its purest form.
Great episode, guys.
I'm excited that we can be cringy and they can still get some jokes.
out of it. So, because we're never sure about that. Oh, yeah. I mean, we've said it before,
and I'll say it again, the cringiness is part of our sound. Right. Now, this next one is serious,
and this is from Alex Bannister, same episode, brand new subscriber trying to catch up. Find
you both very inspirational and got me playing the trumpet again. Many thanks, smiley face.
Thank you, Alex. That really made my day. That made our days. It made, you know, I mean,
that's to, you know, we joke a lot and we're having fun in here, but really this is all about
connecting people with music.
Absolutely.
And we love giving the advanced information or whatever,
but it warms my heart just to hear somebody saying,
I want to play my instrument again.
I want to connect with music,
this powerful force.
Such a huge part of playing this music with good musicians is this hang
that develops,
usually on the gig or at the rehearsal or after.
And I think one of the coolest parts for me about the podcast
and doing it with you.
And something we hear a lot from our listeners
is that the sense of community that,
you know, we've just kind of stumbled upon
that we would do anyway.
You know, you and I hang out quite a bit
for some reason still outside of the podcast,
but it's part of the music.
It is.
Like it's always been in the traditional part of the music.
I'll tell you what, man,
one of my favorite episodes,
I think it was a real turning point episode for us
and a very popular one
was our solo analysis of Roy Hargrove,
Strausberg, St. Denis,
that we did, you know,
the week after,
Roy Hargrove's tragic
early, early death. And so many
great affirming comments
on this
video and
so many great shoutouts to Roy
and suggestions to what the listen for
and everybody's favorite Roy track.
And man, it was
that was a good one. Yeah, and I love
and some people filled in some little
and they do this on a lot of different episodes
which is great for us filling some of the little blanks when we're
because look, we're totally unscripted, unperpared
and we're saying we think it's this or whatever. And I
love it when people either correct us or fill in the gaps because you bring it up danton bolter perhaps but it's like
i mean um you you said it really well very eloquently is this is a community and we just kind of tapped
into it and we want to thank all of the listeners and the watchers because we i want to make it very clear
that we did not create this community at all we just kind of stumbled into it but but we feel
like you guys are our people and we're all you know everybody hopefully has uh you know a community
in their area.
Maybe you don't,
but if you have a few people,
we have a few people here in St. Louis
where you speak the same language,
the things that you need.
It's not that you like exactly the same things
and there isn't things that you argue about it,
whatever,
but this is such a wonderful gift
that jazz has given all of us.
And so that's why we're doing that.
That's why I get excited when somebody,
you know,
when we can honor somebody like Roy Hargrove
and bring in the community around,
you know,
such a central figure to us,
but to the,
just to the world of music
and somebody picking up their trumpet again.
That's what it's about,
Totally.
Another one of my favorites is from December 12th.
Do you remember what was going on around this time?
Dude, I literally don't remember yesterday's episode.
How I'm supposed to represent?
So we were, you are, Peter's always on the road.
I'm usually around St. Louis,
but sometimes our schedules don't meet up.
It's amazing that we got all the way to December,
from January, 2018 to December.
Oh, was this our first?
This was the first.
I did a solo, you'll hear it at the piano.
Oh, right.
It was kind of a hit.
It was kind of a hit.
I'm just, I mean, we're very,
competitive around here.
And I would just like to read,
great stuff.
The name of the episode is
four basic chord voicing
every jazz musician should know.
Oh, well, you're giving them exactly
what they want.
You're bottom feeding.
I'm not dumb, man.
I'm not, if you're not going to be here,
I'm going to give away the farm.
Great stuff.
The chord structure of the first example
was new to me.
The best explanation I've ever heard.
That sounds like an R.B.
Don't worry about it.
Crystal clear and to the point.
Thank you.
Thanks, and thanks for doing this alone.
Someone is MIA.
That's from Mike. Thank you, Mike.
Great advice, thanks.
Another dope lesson, super clear and concise.
I mean, I don't know.
You did some, when I was in Disney, you did some solo episodes.
I'm just going to want to see if they were as well received.
I don't know.
Keep reading those because in a second.
I will.
I will.
There's so many more that I will keep going.
Good, because it's possible you're going to have a new one.
Wait, what's the name of this?
Four Basic Chord Voicings, Every Jazz.
You might have a new comment in a second to read.
Just hold on.
This is rich and creamy knowledge.
Great job going solo at him from our first.
friend Darren. This is brilliantly useful and thanks. Awesome. All right, just keep
reading because there may be a new comment just in a second. I'm just trying to find it.
You know, I would also like to, I did a whole week, by the way. I'm really going to
toot my horn because you toot your horn a little bit. Come on. I am a humble apprentice.
And so I'm here to, you know, December 12th. Look at the latest comment.
December 12th. Are you messing? Would you like me to read it? There's a lot.
a lot of great stuff, you're right.
That's what I'm saying, man.
Wow.
Very good, awesome, great.
Yeah.
But the last one, it was I.
It was, hold on, it's refreshing.
It was I, I wonder who that was from.
I don't know.
Sounds like something.
From Anonymous.
No, but that actually was a really good episode, and it started.
That was our first, well, no, I think we were at the piano earlier.
We did another session at the piano before that, or was that after?
But I knew that with you gone, I was like, well, I'm not going to just sit in the pod cave alone.
Well, no, but that really tapped into.
a lot of views on that. It really tapped into a couple of things like, you know, discussion and kind of a jumping off point for something that I think actually goes beyond pianist because a lot of times we get, not accused of, but we get a little too piano-centric. And I think that when I'm just remembering this episode and stuff is I think there's a lot of interest from people that aren't pianists because you said it right. Four basic chord voicing. Every jazz musician should know. Yeah, I didn't want it for just pianists. I thought these are things. And they really are.
you know, block chords and five-note voice things,
something that I think is helpful for any jazz edition,
whether you're a drummer or a pianist or whatever, you know.
Right.
You know what we should do,
since this is kind of turned into like a retrospective,
a little bit of our best of, our favorites?
Yeah.
Maybe on the YouTube comments, leave your favorite.
Leave your favorite.
You'll hear it up.
On today's like, for instance.
Are we on the YouTube's today?
We are on the YouTube series.
But no, it might be cool to see what everybody's,
you know, what everybody's drawn to.
I mean, we get a little bit from view count,
but I wonder if there's a preferred...
That's just a straight popular.
contest. Well, but that can be
algorithmic, you know, magic too.
So what's your favorite episode?
What have you found to be the most useful?
Yeah, it might bring up some refreshing, some things
that we forgot about. And if we know that, we can maybe do
some more episodes like that.
Right. So there's one more. Do we have time
for me to do one more? No. Are you serious?
No, I'm kidding. Okay. No, it's
all good. Um, but now I'm
oh, I'm not able to find it now.
Herbie can't. Okay. We did an episode.
It was kind of, we might not have been
officially calling them solo analysis.
yet, but of Herbie Hancock's, all of you solo.
Great solo. Right, from My Funny Valentine Live.
Yeah, great solo. And I can't actually find the
Boo, Boo, Boo, Bo, Boom. Was it pre-Utube? No, no, no. It was on YouTube
because one of our lists, our watchers, listeners,
actually was inspired by that to transcribe the solo. We just found this today.
I don't even know if you've seen it. Why showed you just the beginning? We haven't
even gotten all the way through. But now I'm having a little bit of...
I haven't checked it out, but what you show me look great.
why don't you, while I'm finding this,
kind of give a little background as much
as you can remember that episode.
So this was from My Funny Valentine's.
I think this was one of our very first solo analysis.
I think it might have been the first solo analysis,
which is fitting because Herbie's, you know,
obviously our guy kind of.
Yeah.
And one of our guys.
And I don't remember if we called it a solo analysis or not,
but we basically just broke down what we do
when we do a solo analysis,
which is not an in-depth theoretical analysis
as we found out,
from the Corey Henry Solo,
but more of a discussion about like the architecture
of the solo, the phrasing,
some harmonic and melodic stuff,
you know, that we can hear on the fly
and kind of big strokes, but nothing too granular
breaking it down.
Right.
We really just like to talk about like the vibe
and getting those sounds, you know, in a solo,
framing the time with magic.
Yeah, and maybe we'll get back to some of those two
and folks if they had ones in particular,
especially if they're ones that we kind of,
or up on or whatever could jump into some of those okay so the episode is in fact herbie hancock all of you solo number 176 I think that's season two
yeah yeah yeah and uh this was from yeah last august you remember what happened last august no idea
it's hot in st louis probably august 10th that was a year younger then um but the cool thing about this
was yeah we did the solo breakdown um but
just three days ago,
Kim Jung-Su said,
I made a transcription of the solo
after watching this video.
Thank you for the inspiration, Adam and Peter.
And Kim Jong-Su put a link to it,
and it's another YouTube video,
and we'll link to this.
Actually, you know what?
We're going to add the link to this
to the original episode as well.
Cool.
Because we've just started kind of jumping in it,
but it looks like a really good transcription
of this amazing solo.
Perfect, man.
And so I'm excited to dig into it.
He's just got the right hand,
which I love,
because especially on this soul,
I mean, the left hand's always cool, but it really kind of goes in and isolates these wonderful melodic things.
And so that's the kind of stuff that's just warms my heart.
So glad to inspire a little bit.
But really, we're just passing the baton along from Herbie solo, you know.
Totally.
Yeah, that's great, man.
Well, this is fun.
I feel like we pulled the mess together.
Yeah, that's right.
Made something out of it.
That's right.
Yeah.
Thanks to the Oxford American again.
Remember if you go to Oxfordamerican.org slash yHI, you can get your subscription for 25 bucks.
Yeah.
I think it's an investment.
And I'm willing, like, anybody who goes through the year gets your four episodes,
you feel inspired, smarter, more knowledgeable, cooler.
You know what's been killing me on the Oxford American?
What?
The poetry.
I know that sounds weird.
Oh, that's right.
Man, it's great.
And they always have something in there.
They always have five or six poems in there, and they're always really, like, really, really well done.
I mean, the Southern poetry tradition is so rich.
It's amazing.
I mean, so that could be some nice inspiration for some songwriting for some of you folks out there.
Absolutely.
Well, until next week, have a good weekend.
you'll hear it.
