You'll Hear It: Full Album Deep Dives with Jazz Musicians - Attitude Of Gratitude

Episode Date: December 30, 2022

Adam and Peter talk about the 7 things they are grateful for and what got them to episode 999 of YHI. Have a question for us? Leave us a SpeakPipeCheckout courses from Adam, Peter and more a...t Open StudioLet us know what you think by leaving a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review, or head over to our YouTube channel.Follow us on Twitter | Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Peter. Hey. It's number 999. Yes. They said the day would never come. They literally said that to us. I literally don't know who they is. It was us last week.
Starting point is 00:00:14 I'm Adam Manus. And I'm Peter Martin. And you're listening to the You'll Hear podcast. Two dudes talking music, talking live, talking future. Hey. And talking the past. I think it is an appropriate time to talk future to talk past. It is episode number 99.
Starting point is 00:00:44 of the You'll Hear at Podcasts. We're going to do a big celebratory. It's just the number. Hey, it's like your age, man. It's just a number. Let's take a deep breath here. How many podcasts make it to 999 episodes relatively unscathed as we are?
Starting point is 00:01:00 Not very many. Not very many. I'd like to congratulate you. For good reason. I'd like to congratulate you. A little self-congratulations as well. We've been around. We've been around so long
Starting point is 00:01:10 that we've had periods where we could shake hands. We had periods where we were natural. shaking hands because we were so stuffed into a pot cave. We've had periods where we couldn't shake hands because we were at a long Batman-style dinner table with a piece of plastic in between us. A giant musical sneeze guard. That's right. We've done these from across oceans. We've done these at different times. We've done these live. We've done these recorded. We've done them when we shouldn't have done them. We've done them with COVID. Done them without? We did them with the bad plus once. We've done them in other venues.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Yeah, we've done them everywhere. We've been around the world at I, I, I, I. And today, this is kind of appropriate. So if you're watching on the YouTube's, big shout out to the folks there. But we are in the middle of, you probably don't even know this. Elliot. This storm has a name. That's really?
Starting point is 00:02:04 Yeah. Elliot. It's a bomb cyclone. I did not know that. Cyclone Elliott. It sounds like such a positive term. Oh, man, that cyclone was the bomb. This is the bomb.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Yeah. No, but we got a little bit of snow. Definitely a lot of cold here. I mean, it's like two degrees. Full disclosure, a little overhyped for me for all the, but it's cold. You are, you are nonplussed with this kind of talk about. You know what? I've been in, I don't want to be like, I've been in places, but I've been way, I've been
Starting point is 00:02:28 at the furthest north university town in Norway. You've been plus there. Yes. I was impressed with the snow, with the, with the real storms. I mean, to me, one to three inches is not like, you know, hide your women, hide your children, Elliot's coming for you. It's nothing like that. But it's definitely cold.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Have you driven on Highway 70, though, in one to three inches? See, that's the thing. I'm not plus because I don't get on the highways. Oh, no, I was on 170 this morning. 170 can be bad as well. I haven't started snowing yet, though. I had to go out by the airport early this morning. I was going to the airport once in the deep snow on Highway 70.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I was kind of looping around downtown. And I saw in a row in front of me, three cars. Three cars in a row, one after the other. Just their tails went out. They went around very slowly, just like it was in slow motion. Caleb, like they went around very slowly and bam, boom. And then I went past it and then another one. I swear.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Boom. And then one more. Boom. Three cars in a row doing the little spin thing and into the median. This was not this storm. This was several years ago. But call that the three car Monty. The three car Monty.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Yeah. You could not find the ball underneath all. of those cars. But yeah, notorious, not a snow driving town here. But you know, it can be even worse than that. If you're in Texas and it rains hard, it can be bad. That's right. That's right. And this storm's actually going all the way down into Texas and Louisiana and stuff. Wow. Sorry, I had to go get a beverage because we need to stay hydrated. We do. Even when it's cold. A lot of folks don't know that. But so we have a list here of things that we are grateful for with the podcast, which I love that we're spending our 99th episode talking about gratitude.
Starting point is 00:04:09 We're going to do a big blowout. Our favorite moments will be our 1,000th episode. But for 99, we're going to do a little attitude of gratitude. A little attitude of gratitude. And this list could easily be 77. Yep. It could probably even be 777. Well, easily, but it was much easier to do 7.
Starting point is 00:04:27 We've done a lot of lists of 7, which, you know what? Can we make that our number one thing? It actually makes the list here. It does make the list. We're going to change the order a little bit. Okay. So our number one, formerly number 5, but now. now number one of our seven favorite gratitude items that we're grateful for. That's a little fussy,
Starting point is 00:04:47 but you know what I'm saying. Things were grateful. Seven top things. Our list of seven. Yeah. Because that, I mean, we wouldn't want to say this podcast wouldn't exist without it, but there'd be a lot of dead space, a lot of dead air. If we didn't have that, how did we even start the list of seven? I don't remember, actually. I know that we liked the number seven as a nice odd number to do something. Yeah. It seemed like listing seven things would give us enough time. Yep.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And like move us along. Yep. I don't remember a conversation about it. We probably stole it from another podcast if I know us and I don't want to. But if I know us, we probably saw it in another podcast and we thought, oh, we'll try a list of seven. And I think our very first episode was a list of seven. Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, we must have done dozens, if not hundreds of lists of seven.
Starting point is 00:05:36 at this point. And as our 999th episode is confirming, it just works really well. Now, you might say, well, why would you be grateful for a list something as arbitrary as a list of seven? But there actually is nice, the seven note scale. There is, I think, something for us to take away here as musicians, as people who make things, that we use the list of seven, a because it grabs people's attention. We're losing Peter, big time. He's yawning. He's looking out of the snow. He wasn't to go sledding. We're going to talk about that a second. We have, had no, I have a coffee cup. Big shout out to blueprint.
Starting point is 00:06:09 If they don't become a sponsor this year, I'm going to boycott. Come on, Kevin. But we didn't have any coffee this afternoon, which we normally do. They're closed. The storm is so bad. The bomb cyclone. They don't look at it as the bomb. So I did yawn, but you're not losing me.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Not yet. So back to our list of sevens. Yes, back to our regularly schedule. And why they work. And this can work, I think, when you're doing any kind of planning or any kind of presenting, is putting your thoughts and what you're, want to talk about into a list. And actually, a lot of these, we do try to rank as far as, like, how do we want to talk about it? Like, what do we want the flow to be? Well, number one is
Starting point is 00:06:45 always listen. And that can become kind of a thing that you do when you do this often. But you also start to see trends. Well, listening, we didn't plan that number one would always be listening, but it was always when we talked about what was in the hierarchy of things we were usually talking about, listen usually comes up as like the top thing, right? Like the most important thing. And that alone is a lesson. But putting our thoughts. thoughts into the list of seven. Not only is it a great catchy thing, you know, for the podcast itself, and you get used to it, it becomes its own trope. But I think just for making things, it can be very helpful. Absolutely. All right. So number two, we have, listen. Listen. Well, kind of, it is sort of that.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yeah. Music. Music. Because we listen to music. We are thankful for music for which this podcast would not exist because we are primarily talking about music. We're not just talking about traffic patterns on Interstate 70 in the greater San Francisco. No one would hear just that. Nobody wants to hear that. But music is... They just play the right note. Or any notes, really. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:42 You know, music is such a deep and beautiful well for both for entertainment and edification, uplifting our spirits. But then as a thing to study, to revel in, to talk about, to banter about, to joke about, to iterate on how we're going to get better. I mean, that's what we talk about here. A lot of big words there. A lot of big words. But not that.
Starting point is 00:08:06 but um you know what i'm saying though like music is it's like the gift that keeps on giving it's such a um beautiful thing and i'm so grateful to have found it both for the joy it brings me directly and the people um that you know i've become associated with because it becomes one of those like self-selecting things for friends and people you work with like oh you're into music it's like it's almost like a background check absolutely you know what i mean i'm always a little suspicious of people not that don't love jazz or classical. Yeah, I get that. Oh, believe me, I get that.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Yeah, yeah. But you know, people that are like, oh, I don't like music. That's weird. That's a little weird. That's like, I don't like water. Yeah. I prefer not, I prefer other beverages. I don't enjoy trees or flowers. Yeah, really?
Starting point is 00:08:50 I don't like art. I mean, I can understand. I don't like abstract art. Can I tell you? I was in, speaking of this attitude, I was in, Heather and I, years ago, before we had our second kid, we went to a little, vacation in Hawaii. It was my only time ever being in Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Went to Kuwait. We'll see. We went to the Garden Island, Hawaii. Beautiful. And we went to, we did the whole Nepali coast thing. And then there's this big trail
Starting point is 00:09:15 that you can drive your car up. Trail of tears. I've heard about it. Okay. Different one. Fairly controversial. But you can drive sort of up the mountain and then there's all these
Starting point is 00:09:25 lookouts to not, the very last one is the famous Nepali coast, the Jurassic Park lost coast, right? But then all the way up all these beautiful inland canyons, which are gorgeous. We get up to the first one. It's just the most beautiful, dense, rainforest, tropical jungle of the canyon. And this family gets out, and this lady had this, like, you know, stained Tweety Bird
Starting point is 00:09:47 T-shirt on, and it's just, like, the worst, I mean, just the ugly American stereotype. Right. You know what I mean? Like, big, big 7-11, 44-ounce soda. She looks at the can. She goes, it's just a canyon. and walked back to her car. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:10:04 if this, if this doesn't do it for you, there's no hope. Duke Ellington is, you're not going to be impressed with Duke Ellington. If you, if you look at this and say, just Canyon,
Starting point is 00:10:14 seen these before, like, come on, man. Now Mingus I'm, now that's beautiful. Yeah, now if she would have said that, I would have been like, oh, interesting. Okay, this lady has some interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah. Anyway, uh, yeah, music is the greatest. Yeah, it's the greatest. It's the greatest.
Starting point is 00:10:28 So thank you music. Number three of our, Top seven things we're grateful for is you, our dear listener. We, not you, well, you're, you're, oh, them. Them. Them. Those people. Them. Yeah, there, obviously, we don't get close to a thousand without your amazing support and feedback and speak pipe questions, ratings and reviews, emails that we get from you. Yeah. Social media messages. Comments on YouTube. Retweets. Yeah. Everything that you share and post and, and reach out to us with.
Starting point is 00:11:00 We read all of it. We love all of it. And we just, we hear you. You'll hear it. We'll hear you. That's right. And yeah, we're so grateful for you. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Yeah. Thank you guys so much. I mean, it goes beyond this wouldn't exist without you. It wouldn't. I mean, yeah, we did the first couple of episodes, not knowing if there'd be anybody there. And we were very lucky to kind of connect with an audience kind of pretty quickly, you know, and that it's grown from there. but the feedback that you guys give in the energy
Starting point is 00:11:32 and is the energy that keeps us going, especially the questions, and that really frames things for us to be able to serve and to be able to hopefully add something fun and educational but entertaining and all that kind of stuff. So thank you guys. From the bottom of our hearts. Number four is producer Caleb over here.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Producer Caleb. Yeah, we are super grateful for you, Caleb. Yes. And Caleb, you're going to just play not only the avatar of yourself and all the amazing things that you've done for us in the last year or so. It's about a year? Almost a year. We're coming up on a year.
Starting point is 00:12:10 What's that? February will be a year for Caleb here at the studio. And, but really, Caleb, you're going to play an avatar for our whole team of people that have helped us with this throughout the years. Producer Andrew Kitchen. Remember him was our first producer. Of course, Dan Martin, we'll get into Opus to do a little bit later. Dan and Rachel and Sam and everybody and Ian and everyone who's ever touched anything having to do with you'll hear it.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Yes. Couldn't be more grateful for. Brian Fielding. Brian Fielding. Great suggestions, early supporter. Yep. So, yeah. Yep, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:12:47 What do we on? Number five. Number five. Okay. Sorry. And then it's going to regulate after that. I had a little bit of a program crash there for our delivery here, but I'm back on it. Ooh, I like this one.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Number five. growth mindset. We're grateful for a growth mindset. We are grateful for a growth mindset. What does that mean? Well, what does that mean? I ask you. What doesn't that mean? Yeah, what doesn't that mean? Wait, I'm going to go figure it out. Because I can. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think that if there's any concept, except for perhaps listen, that we have not dredged up endlessly on this podcast, it would be growth mindset. But it both informs sort of the way we've put this together from the beginning. I mean, even from the very beginning of like, can we do a podcast?
Starting point is 00:13:33 That was coming out of a growth mindset. 100%. Why don't you give the folks who might not know exactly just the elevator pitch for a growth mindset? Yeah. So it basically means that tomorrow and later today and definitely next week and next month, you can do something. And by you, it could be individual or as a team, even stronger or as an organization,
Starting point is 00:13:54 a company, band can do something that you can't imagine. how the hell you could do it right now. You know, it's to imagine that this can be something bigger. We can serve more. We can serve better. We can acquire knowledge. We can do something. And I think it also, the part about growth mindset that I love to,
Starting point is 00:14:14 and I'm so much gratitude for it, is that it also gets us realizing that the pie is huge. It's not a fixed thing. So it's not like we have to get our podcast listeners. It's like, no, we can attach ourselves to others. and that there's plenty for everybody to go around. I think that's kind of the B side of growth mindset for sure. Wow, that is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:14:38 We have, can we see that? I'm not to paint a picture for our dear audio listeners. Well, you can hear that. This is like old-time radio. I love it when you hear that lifting up of we are showing as the sun begins. It's like the end of white Christmas. We just open up the back. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:14:53 It got cold up in here. So we just opened up the, we didn't open the windows. It was getting a little dark. crazy. And it looks beautiful out of them. So there is some insulation properties to that as well. 100%. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Number five is growth mindset. Number six, things we're grateful for for the podcast besides our beautiful pod suite. Yes. Podfront. Sorry, this is the pod front. We've had three. We've had four. We've had the pod.
Starting point is 00:15:17 We're thankful for that. We are. We're thankful, but we are more thankful for our special guests over the years. I'm talking about, listen to this list of people we've talked to. Ready? Ron Carter Ever heard of him Anott Cohen
Starting point is 00:15:30 Ever heard of her Dian Reeves Nicholas Payton Wow Gregory Hutchinson Yep The entire host panel of switched on pop
Starting point is 00:15:40 Right Rick Beato Charlie and Nate Charlie and Nate Rick Beato Rick Beato Cheryl Cassidy Yeah
Starting point is 00:15:46 Warren Cassidy Warren Wolf That's what I said Romero Lou Bambo Yes Christian McBride Sean Jones And others
Starting point is 00:15:53 Tina Fuller Tia Fuller Tia Fuller Tia Fuller Tina Fuller. I like it. Give me some Tina Fuller. I almost said Tina Fey for a second.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Tia Fuller. Yeah. Sean Jones, Warren Wolf. Jesus, the list goes on and around. Ruben Rogers. Ruben Rogers.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Bob DeBoo. Hello. Give me a brief. Sean Wile. What? Kelly Martin. Kelly Martin. Heather McCorkel.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Come on, man. Right, right. Brian Owens. Who? We can say him again. Ted Hunt. Let's say, but we'll say it again.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Tina. Well, let's say Tina Faye. That was one of our men. No, our guests have like infused this show with so much character and color and life and ideas for us. And it's been such a great way for us to connect, you know, remotely learning. Fred Hirsch. Fred Hirsch.
Starting point is 00:16:37 We're probably our last guest we've had this year, right? Yeah. And so it's been a pleasure. Emmett Cohen. Emmett Cohen. I feel like Brian Owens right now. Are you kidding me right now? Brian Owens.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Chris Hanson on the lost episode. The last episode. Victor Goans. Victor Goans. Kababi Baia. Come on, man. Yeah. New Jazz Underground.
Starting point is 00:16:57 One of the few that we, well, no, we reached out to something, but that was a cold call on our part. Connie Hahn. Connie Han.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I said that in my thickest, St. Louis accent. Connie Han. Yeah, no, but we're so thankful for our guests. They brought. Peter Bernstein.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Peter Bernstein. Larry Golding. Come on. Almost. Almost. Don't rub it in. No, but it's, it's been fun to connect with folks and to know that good folks are,
Starting point is 00:17:23 you know, listening out there that we can bring some stars on and do our little part. And I mean, look, Ron Carter probably goes straight to that top of the list. Have we told the story about, I don't know if we've told it. We're not going to do the whole thing, but that's how we met. Why I had met Ron Carter before, but how we really became introduced. He was watching some of our videos and maybe listening to the pod and reached out about coming on the pod, which was amazing.
Starting point is 00:17:47 And, you know, really went to a beautiful relationship. We did two interviews with Mr. Carter, the maestro. Yeah. Well, he was watching us. We had no idea. So should we tell the funny story? That's how bored he was and like just during the pandemic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:00 His life was reduced on and after watching us. Wow. We all adjust as we need to. Look how beautiful it is out there. I want to go have a snowball fight. It's got a blue tinge. It kind of matches your blue sweater vest. So it's not a vest.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Can we do a, we need to do an open studio jazz St. Louis snowball fight today. That would be really fun. I need to get some warm clothes on before we do that to be honest. I'm freezing right now. So let's tell the Ron Carter story because this is a little trip down memory. We're almost 10.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I just told it. While you're doing that. Excellent. Okay. Number seven. Finally, number seven of the things we're grateful for. Our seven top things that we're grateful for. Ready?
Starting point is 00:18:35 Yes. Fred Armisen. I'm not a fan of Jim. No, just kidding. Just kidding. Yeah, he didn't make our list. Roadcaster. Would that be something you might be interested in?
Starting point is 00:18:45 These are important things, but they're more behind the scenes, Adam. Listen, we're talking about. Alan Iverson. They're just playing the right. No. Not a game. Not a game. Yeah, Alan Iverson.
Starting point is 00:18:56 That was Jenny from the... What's her name? Not Jenny. Angela. Angela. If you're... Caleb, if you're friend at that company needs a sound design, help, just let me know. That's right.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Those are all important things, but none of them are as important as our lead sponsor. Oh, big shout out to all of our sponsors. All sponsors. They have fallen off of me. Yeah, Spin Drift. Nope. Never happened. Blueprint.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Nope. Couldn't close that deal. Spectrosonics? No. Oxford American. Oxford American was our very first sponsor. Little thing called, what was the app? Maybe that's why we don't have sponsors. We forget their names.
Starting point is 00:19:31 The app, any tune. Any tune. I was just using that again. Yeah. Because I have the program. It's so good, man. Anytune is a legit great. But big shout to our sponsor.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Grace note coffee. Yes. Remember Grace note coffee? That was a great sponsor. So anyway, what we wanted, number seven on our gratitude list is actually Open Studio. Yeah. And, you know, Open Studio is the sponsor. we're on the Open Studio podcast network.
Starting point is 00:19:57 You know. And we are the keynote, not the first, not the last, but the keynote podcast, the piece of our podcast list. And it's great that Open Studio has given us these facilities, this opportunity to do this. And it's been such a fun way for new folks to come in and discover, you know, the open studio vibe by way of this pod. I don't think it gets any more authentic than what we do on the pod for. it is the most authentic version of ourselves here.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I think you're used to this in P-flat, aren't you? I like it. No, you kidding. Well, happy holidays, everybody. Congratulations, Peter. 999. Yeah, they said we wouldn't make it. We said we wouldn't make it.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And we did. We're doing our 1,000th episode spectacular. Next week, catch that number 1,000. And then we'll talk about maybe what we're going to do after that. We don't really know. But sounds ominous, but exciting. But exciting. Happy holidays, y'all.
Starting point is 00:21:23 We'll hear it.

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