You'll Hear It: Full Album Deep Dives with Jazz Musicians - Cavalcade of Comments

Episode Date: April 19, 2021

Peter and Adam look through their favorite comments of the past week.Interested in more music advice? Go here to browse our catalog of jazz lessons and courses available for purchase. And be sure to check out our All Access Pass - every course from Open Studio on every instrument.Let us know what you think by leaving a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review, or head over to our YouTube channel.

Hey Peter. Guess what it's time for? What? A cavalcade of... Cram. Crap. No, comments, comments, comments, comments. Come on.

I'm Adam Manus. And I'm Peter Martin. And you're listening to the You'll Hear It Podcast. Daily Jazz Advice coming at you. Oh, what? Yes, you heard me. Do I got to say it again? Daily jazz advice coming at you.

I don't have time for that anymore. What are you talking about? We're going old school. You know, we're going back to that. I don't know why we left that. What are you talking about? Don't you remember? That was our original tagline.

We used to do daily. We made that up the very first day we started this podcast. I know. Because you came in and said, we're doing a daily jazz podcast. And I was like seven days a week and you were like daily, Adam. Yes. And we did for a long time. But we haven't for a while.

So what's going on? Well, this is the thing. Well, but then it also, yeah. So the daily thing changed. But also we dropped jazz. I don't know because we were like music advice because we're scared. Maybe some people don't like jazz. You know what?

We're here and we're talking jazz. And if you don't like it, please keep listening. And please love us. I hate this. I just got to go for it that he bailed out. No, no. This is the thing. Yeah, we talk about music.

We're not into labels, but we're not shying away from the jazz title anymore. Last time I checked jazz was music. I know. I mean, this is, you know what? It's an imperfect name, but that's what we have for now. It is an imperfect name. Yeah, you know, we did get caught up. We got swept up in the, in the BAM.

Yeah. And I'm still down with it. I'm very much down with it, actually. Yeah. But daily BAM advice. No, it's daily jazz advice. And you might be saying daily, but this is not daily. Well, first of all, today is Monday, April.

19th. We're late into the day. We're pushing 5 p.m. It's beer time in many parts of them. How did that happen? We were doing so great managing our time. But this is the thing. This is going to be released today. This is a very spontaneous. Like in a couple hours, this bad boy is going to be on the interwebbs. So although we may not be releasing a podcast every day, you can listen to this podcast daily.

I feel like that's, I feel like that's the technicality, but I'm going to let it happen. We've got, what, 800 episodes out there to listen to you. Far from number one. That's daily jazz advice for three years. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. But excited to be here.

Thank you guys to our dear listeners. Thank you to our sponsor, Open Studio. Go to Open StudioJadiojazz.com. And I would direct our dear listeners to a particular page that you may not be familiar with. Well, no, you probably are very familiar with it. That's Open Studiojazz.com slash pro, as in PRO, as in professional, as in profess your love for this beautiful new program we have going on, Open Studio Pro. Yeah, and this is really, if you're already an open studio member, this is for you. If you're not an open studio member just yet, this might be a little much.

But if you're an open studio member, you're ready to take your playing to the next level. You're ready to practice daily with us and have access to all of our live events. This is really who we're talking to. Yeah, and it's, you know, it includes a beautiful thing called the daily guided practice session with the gentleman sitting across from me on the other side of the plexiglass. Mr. Adam Maness. And so this is for if you're looking for a little more handholding. And who isn't looking for a little bit more hand holding?

I love to hold a hand. You know what I'm saying? It's getting safer out here. We can hold some hands. It is. It's like a virtual handholding. Like if you're at that point of your development, and this is not just for advanced players. In fact, a kind of specialty of yours in the way that you're lovingly guiding this cohort, the present cohort, of which there may not even be any spot.

There's just a couple of spots open, but we are going to looking to open up some new cohorts. because we're limiting the numbers because it's just not going to work with too many people. But this is for beginner intermediate players that really want to have that accountability and that community and that live experience

to be able to ask questions and to be able to kind of, you know, for me, I liken it very much to my running coach. It's like, you know, I could get out there and read the books and do it myself and I've done that. But to have somebody that is right there with you

to guide you with your daily workout is for a lot of people is a beautiful thing. So go check it out to see if it's a good fit for you. That's right. So today, we like to do our sort of rundown on comments.

We get emails and we get comments. Actually, we get a lot of great feedback. And so we like to just have some time to interact with our wonderful listeners here on the podcast and on the YouTube. That's right. And because this is going out so quickly today on this Monday,

I'll just let you know about something that you don't even know about Adam, which is talking about different places. You can also send a tweet. I'm doing a little Q&A all week over on Twitter. Really? I don't know if you knew about this. Yeah.

I'm not on Twitter. You're not on Twitter. I can hook you up. I can send you a link to sign up for an account if you'd like. We'll talk about that later. I really would not like one. But if you check out and follow me over there, it's I am Peter Martin because Peter Martin was taken. So I am I am Peter Martin.

Well, that's convenient though because you are Peter Martin. I am Peter Martin. But I'm doing a Twitter Q&A on jazz piano, entrepreneurship, whatever you want to ask me. Wine. That is valuable, actually. Yeah. Yeah. But mostly jazz and piano.

And ask a question. and I'm going to go through and try to catch as many of them as I can, maybe do some videos, maybe even some demos or something. So that's another place you can reach us. Awesome. But today I think we're hitting the,

we like to hit the actual YouTube comments because we have a beautiful viewership there. We're also going to look at the, we haven't done that in a while, the Apple ratings and reviews. No, I got you. I'm on it. I'm on it.

But I'm just going to go through a couple, and we have such great listeners, such witty banter goes down. This first one, I want to jump down a little bit because I thought it was, uh, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boom. Um, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba.

Stall. Yeah, okay, so I like this. So things happen in these videos or podcasts, and then we kind of quickly forget what the context of them was is because, believe it or not, we don't sit around watching our own stuff because it's painful, right? So we did an episode a couple of weeks ago that was been one of our more popular ones. How bad is the real book,

actually and the answer was it's not great it's pretty bad in fact yeah yeah and so Luke one of our one of our dear listeners had something very funny I'm crazy for the girls didn't know Peter could sing

I don't remember singing in that episode I definitely don't remember singing I'm crazy for the girl Are you sang all over that episode Did I noodle and you said you're way through it Yeah yeah And then the next one So thank you for that Luke

But this next one this is one I was looking for The Clifford Brown eighth note episode this is one of our top videos one of your top videos from the GPS learn an iconic B-Bop solo in 30 minutes and then the little sub-tidal

by 30 minutes we mean yeah this video is 55 minutes that's not bad you know it's not that but the little subtitle there in the thumbnail says greatest eighth note

of all time question mark yeah and so James says so which eighth note is it James I love you so much you're my favorite commenter ever because that I mean that's so great

which eighth note of all those eighth notes, which is the greatest eighth note of all. That's great. Thank you, James. Never change. That's right. And then I was really heartened to see this from Marcus, this comment on our live at Open Studio Brazil edition.

Now, this is from about two years ago. One of the greatest concerts I ever saw. Yeah, I agree. It was right here, just a few feet from where we are. We're in the open studio, as it were. This is pre-pandemic. We had people packed in here. We had some of the greatest musicians from Brazil and St. Louis coming together.

Romero Lubombo, Elio Alves, Edou, Ribeiro, and Bob Dubu. And it was just a Brazil event. We had such a great time. I mean, Adu had just like flown in. He arrived literally that morning from Sao Paulo here in St. Louis. And boy, where his arms tired. He flew in. Oh, boy.

Okay. But I'm so glad that this kind of stuff is still reaching people for the first time. So Marcus says that that's a show, nice music, good crowd, excellent musicians. Thanks for the video. We need that. Oh, man. There's one down here from Fox. and this is a comment on a video

this video that we made it's the gift that keeps on giving it's from season one of our podcast it's actually the very first time I said no this is the second time that we ever put a video recorder on ourselves and uploaded the YouTube I don't even think this video

I'm gonna bring it up here yell yeah it's so good because this video I don't even think it has a ton of views but it has hundreds and hundreds of comments it's called seven reasons people hate jazz. And the idea behind the video.

That was a follow-up to our early success of, wait, oh, is that the same one, though? Didn't we do a separate one? Why do, why do I hate jazz or something? Yeah, no, this was actually the very first one. Oh, this is the first one. Okay, got it. So seven reasons people hate jazz. And really by the end, we're defending jazz, of course.

Like, we're kind of like projecting on why, you know. But so let me see here all time. What does it has? Like the lifetime views. It's not that much for our videos. It's only 12,000, which isn't that great. But the comments are off the chain. So people are commenting without even watching it, perhaps.

Is that what's happening? 100%. It has more comments than news. The comments are insane. And so, and they're all, it's, I think what it is, it's one of the top videos that comes up when you put into YouTube. I hate jazz. And so we have all of this great stuff. And so this last comment from Fox that just happened, just the other.

today was, except for 5% of the albums from the 50s to the 70s, the rest is so boring. Lots of O's. Oh, man, it's wonderful. So thank you for that video. It's great. Both of us were a little heavier. Quite a bit. We're both sipping on ice drinks.

We both have weird mics right in our faces in the videos. It's very odd. We were in the cavernous non-pod suite, I believe, at that time. Oh, it's not great. Yeah. So I'm looking here from Elia, one of our. one of our longtime open studio members and one of our great players, student players,

commented on the stop bleeping up footprints video, two minute jazz that I did a little while ago. And that is, I didn't understand this at first, 16 people bleeping up footprints, L.O.L. And I was like, oh, 16 people. And then I realized that's the number of dislikes,

that video guy. Thumbs down. Thumbs down. Yeah, yeah. A lot of people are asking me what we use to transcribe. when we do our live transcriptions and we love sound slice around here.

It works really, really well for that. Yeah, yeah. It's, I mean, we've talked about there's, there's some overlap with Sebelius. There's some things that obviously Sebelius and Dorico, which we've been... I'm going to go on sabbatical and learn how to do Dorico. I know. It seems good.

It does seem good. Max Gamese has approved it. I think we're just, you know, these tools, especially the more sophisticated ones, and SoundSlices is sort of a hybrid, because it's not first and foremost a notational tool or software, although it has very strong notational abilities, but because it uses a primarily,

well, it uses an entirely online web-based interface that needs to be, you know, cross-platform and even cross-browser available. It's just amazing what it can do. And we love it. And I'm so glad Adrian, Adrian and his team over there. And I remember it was just Adrian,

and we met for coffee up in the, Chicago years ago, five years ago, six years ago, and he first sort of pitched what he was working on. And I was like, that sounds great, but there's no way you ever build that. And he built it. And we love it. And so, and it's also, would you say it's fairly accessible? I mean, depending on your, your software acuity. Well, yeah, it's browser based. So it's just, it's just easy to use. Yeah, it's really, really, you can just literally, you can just, literally, you can just start. And they have a great community over there. You can check out our Open Studio channel. And, but there's many great channels and and people contributing to the actual,

just go on soundslice and dot com and go to the community tab there and you can, and so much of it is free. You can, you know, I think pro accounts and all these different things, but it's one of those things that is, there's a lot of great free content there. I did this video, the other last week,

actually, not too long ago, where it's called Jazz Pianist learns a new song in 30 minutes where I learned Roy Hargow's top of my head, which I didn't really know. I knew the song, but I didn't know how to play it. I learned it in actually 30 minutes, Peter. You'd be.

You did. Yeah, you'd be, I saw it live. It was very impressive. But you know what? I'm going to do more of these. I think on Friday, I'm going to do another one. And I think what I'm going to do is like not have a plan going in and just ask the chat.

Yeah. To give me a tune. Yeah. And I will then look up the tune, put it in the sound slice and then learn it and see what happens. That's, I like that. That's a gutsy move right there. Well, I'm inspired because one of our subscribers, uh, Eves, I don't even know how to say this name is. I've seen this name.

It's Y-V-E-E-E-S-L-L-L-L-Eves. Like Yvese-Sel-Laureen. Like Yves-San-Laron. Yves says, doing this live took some Cajones, but it works as the learning teaching device. Well, I'm confused because he's using Spanish, yet he has a French name,

because Cajonese is clearly. Oh, can I tell a funny story? This is not a comment, but my dad told me over the weekend. Big shout to Bill Martin. So there was a conductor who, I can't remember who it was. I don't even know if I knew.

My dad knows all. these conductors from work in the classical circuit, as it were, for many years. But he was kind of a known, oh, I think this was Thomas Beecham, Sir Thomas Beecher. It's a Sir. Sir. Sir Beecham. My goodness. And he was conducting in London or something. And I guess this was at a rehearsal.

But, you know, there's always a funny thing, like you're rehearsing. And symphony players, like, they might have a trumpet part where they only play in the first movement or one piece. And then the conductors moving on to the next movement. and there's very little chance of them going back and you don't have anything else to play. Can you leave? Can you not? It's always kind of a gray area. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Different etiquette in different countries, different orchestras or whatever. But your Cajonis comment reminded me of this. So this trumpet player is like kind of getting up, like kind of packs up quietly when his parts are done to leave the rehearsal. And Thomas Beecham kind of says, oh, sir, sir. He was like a guest conductor.

It wasn't his orchestra. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's like, oh, excuse me, sir, what is your name? And the guy said, oh, I'm, you know, Tim Ball, a trumpet player. And he says, oh, ball, how singular of you. That's quick winning. That's quick winner. That's good.

And it was even better. My dad told him about it. It was like, how very singular of you. That's good, right? Is that, does that joke? Nobody. Can we still do, though? Yeah, yeah, for sure.

but you know what I've noticed, man, as far as rehearsal shade goes, nobody can match classical cats. Oh, my God. They can throw so much shade in rehearsals. They can throw shade across the hall. Like a blackout shade. It's incredible. Like, you will be cut down to size.

Right. I was just hanging with friends and they were talking about there's a certain person in our beloved St. Louis Symphony Orchestra now. Yes. That can cut shade from the back. to a guest conductor. And it goes and they said they can time it so that the shade stops

at the first cellist. So it doesn't reach the violins or the conductor. Right. But everybody else in the orchestra hears it. That's right. That's right. How very singular of them. They've been doing it their whole lives. Good stuff, good stuff.

Okay, so can we get to some of the cavalcade of negativity? Is that okay? Are we ready? Can we go? We went funny. We went positive. We went funny.

Now we're going to go dark. Let's do it. This was one you brought up, and now I'm actually seeing it from an ironic handle of freedom. Yeah. This is about the seven levels of five, seven. Which I thought was a good episode. I thought it was too. How many alterations are that?

That was an excellent episode. This is obviously a new viewer just from a day ago. The guy in red cannot play. He is fake. That was me, by the way. Do we know that, though? Yeah, I was wearing a red hoodie. Okay.

The guy in black, he can play. Respect for the guy in black, Peter. Oh, he did have my name. He did have your name. But how respectful is that when you're like, the guy in black, respect for that guy in black, Peter? Well, he learned your name. That's respectful. Yeah, by the time he got to the end of the thing.

But I love, that's a little bit, you know, whatever. But I like your comment back to him from Adam Manus. I feel the same way sometimes. I mean, L-O-L. It is. I was like, are you in my head, freedom? Because I feel fake all the time. I'm just faking my way through life, buddy.

I'm an imposter here. Absolutely. But you know what? Look, I feel the same way. I mean, imposter syndrome, I've come to embrace it. We should do a whole episode on imposter syndrome. I know. I mean, it's just, you know what?

It's an important part of being an artist. If you don't feel imposter syndrome for some sizable chunk of your artistic career, you're not to try it hard enough, I believe. Yeah, you just have to, it's something you have to deal with. And, you know, you have to deal with, you got to deal with your critics here. Yeah. I think the fake thing is weird because I'm obviously. a real person.

I know. That's the weird thing. It's not like, like, I, I could rather us take like, you sound like crap or you don't know that tune or you're wrong about that note on soul.

You're a bad player. Yeah, but you're fake. Like, you're not, I mean, you are in fact here. I can attest to your realness. And I'm not, yeah,

I'm not pretending like I'm any better than I am, freedom. I think actually freedom is, freedom is, is big into freedom of the press, though, apparently. Well, no, no.

I was like, is this a test from the universe? Is this to unlock my own freedom that this guy's testing me. You know what I mean? Interesting. Thank you, freedom. Okay, so, and then I'm looking here at

why and how to practice bass lines. And I had to check. Now, is that, do you remember that episode? Was that like a jazz piano method live situation? I think there was a two minute jazz, was it? Oh, two minute jazz. Let me see here. No, it's an hour and one minute.

So it's got to be like, I think that was when I did. That is a deeper dive. Yeah. So C1, two, 389, this is an excellent lesson on several levels. I found it on YouTube maybe two months ago. I'm still chipping away at it, even after I eventually achieve hand independent.

Yeah, okay, I remember this. This lesson will be a keeper. Thanks for posting. So I really love this because of the... Wait, I thought we were going negative here. How come I got it? Well, sorry, I'm just reading it in order, buddy. I found it on YouTube maybe two months ago.

Like, I'm such... We're going to go negative. Let's listen to Adams negative, and then we're going to go compliments to me. Well, I couldn't remember who's... I thought it was... I actually thought it was your GPS at first is what I thought it was. You're fake.

I'm not even a real. I'm not real. Could you be fake and can play also? Because he's, freedom has, there's like a dichotomy of he's fake. Like, you're fake and he can play.

It should be like, you're fake and you're real. Or you can play and you can't play. I don't understand this. You're fake and you can play. I try not to think about it too much. Okay, got it.

Sorry, I didn't mean to focus you in there. No, but what I love about this, We're going positive now is I found it on YouTube maybe two months ago because we, you know, they're much maligned and often rightfully so algorithm of YouTube slash Google. Negativity is rewarded. Like we've rewarded. We're actually part of that.

I don't feel like we're doing that right now. That's right. But I do like it when people find things that are helpful. That's such a cool thing. You want another video we made, we already talked about it once today is the real book one. It just keeps giving them. It's, well, it's been very popular, which is great. but there's controversial comments

there's a lot of comments this is really good because throughout there we talk about being dogmatic we say dogmatic a lot by the way we talk about we're very dogmatic about our use of the word dogmatic even yeah but someone so noon's flower corrects us he says you're not being dogmatic

just pendantic pendantic is okay dogmatic is not I don't even really know what pendantic means but I feel like it sounds like a lot much smarter word than dogmatic pendantic that's it's so close to pandemic. It's got me a little bit worried, but I'm okay.

Ooh, pendantic is an insulting word used to describe someone who annoys others by correcting small errors, caring too much about minor details. You know what? If we, if we have any falseness that we care too much, we often say that here. Are we being pendantic? I think we're being pentantic. Or emphasizing their own expertise, especially in some narrow or boring subject. This might be our new catchphrase. I think we didn't get rid of daily jazz advice is gone. Pendantic jazz advice coming out to you. That's excellent, man.

Okay, well, here we go. There's another one we could throw into the mix, didactic. What does that mean? Well, I don't know. Frequently asked questions about pandemic. Sorry, folks, you're going to have to bear with us. We both dropped out of conservatory.

Hey, I almost dropped out of high school, buddy. Okay, the word didactic generally means design to teach. Hello. Hello. That's us. It's my vanity played on my minivan. But it's often used in a negative way to describe boring or annoying lessons. Hello.

That's another hallmark of us. Or the people who teach them. While didactic can have a neutral meaning, Pandantic is almost always an insult. Okay, so if we use Pandantic on YouTube, we're going to be rewarded. I can tell that. Is Pandantic an insult? Pandantic is an insulting word used to describe someone who annoys others by correcting small errors.

Would you say we've occasionally, and I'm talking like one out of a million, had a pendantic commenter on this channel? Yes. Okay. A few, a dozen, thousand. I said one out of a million. We've got one here, Jeff.

This is from, I did a video on learning Thelonius Monk composition in 20 minutes, which we learned, what do we do? Oh, we did a straight-note chaser in the key of B-flat. And Jeff says, I learned from actual records, and use my ears, all caps.

I have yet to sit with pencil and paper to transcribe a solo. That, to me, is a sin. I listen to too many things from too many sources, most of it, not the saxophone, all caps, which I've been playing for 35 years. The great's never transcribed as far as I could tell. Jazz was born in the street right there on the corner. Okay.

Is that pendantic? It's incorrect. Dogmatic. I don't know because I'm very confused about those words, but it's not correct in terms of. of the greats never transing anything. I'll just bring up because I'm looking at his picture right here, Roy Hargrove.

Oh, yeah. Much transcription. I saw him, I saw him play so many different transcriptions. There you go. I mean, Winston Marsalis, you know,

he's the first one who really, you know, pulled my coat and, and, I mean, I knew about transcript, but he was the first one that was just like, you got to learn this,

learn that he's like, next time I come to town, I want you to be able to play this solo. And, you know, he knows a bunch of clipper. I mean, you know,

come on. Yeah. No, that's great. If it's good enough for Roy Hargrove, it's good enough for everybody. That's right. Great. Okay, well, let's not go out on that note, though.

I got one really good from Casson. Because, you know, I think this was, there must have been something here. Hold on. I'm going to treat you to look this up. So, you know, we get our podcast here, Peter, has developed into like quite a bit of banter. I don't know if you know this or not.

Between you and I. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And some people, when they discover our podcast, they don't like the banter. Really? Yeah, yeah. They just want the facts, ma'am. Yeah, yeah. So maybe we were talking about the banter in this podcast, but we're going to go out on this because Casson has some nice things to say.

He says, totally disagree regarding the banter. I enjoy it a lot, actually. Makes the sessions feel more intimate, familiar, relaxed. I have come to really love Open Studio. It's my favorite channel on all of YouTube. Cassan, thank you so much. That actually leaves us in a really nice place. You know, I like the banter too, man.

I don't know any jazz musicians that just talk about scales and chords and voices. I am a cord robot. Look at me. Wait, I need oil. You know how this music has lived and breathed for years? At the bar after the gig, in the green room, after the gig. If you're 21 or over. Yeah.

On the bus, in the plane, talking about stuff. Just, you know, be at a bit. Yes, and... Right. Just getting pandantic and dogmatic about stuff. Oh, nobody gets more... Didactic. Didactic.

Didactic and pedantic and dogmatic than jazz musicians. So I appreciate that, Cassan, because, you know, we try to make this feel like it's the real thing. Like, you know, just kind of meeting up after our gigs over and, you know, talking about scales. That's right. That's right. So if you... However you feel, we would invite you to give us a rating or review. You can make it...

We request seven stars because we are the Internet's first jazz. seven-starred podcast ever. Bam. But we're getting a little bit of a problem because we keep getting these five-star reviews. Well, it's impossible to give seven-star. Well, no. But you can write it in.

Write it in. Write it into the... That's why you do a review and a rating. That's true. But give us a rating review. If you don't like our banter, still give us seven stars. Seven stars for banter,

whatever you want to do. But you, where folks want to do that? You want to do that on your podcast. Wherever you get podcasts, give us that seven-star review. You can put the stars right in there. That's right. Google Play, Apple Podcasts,

Stitcher. Spotify. We're climbing the Spotify chart. I've seen this. Yeah, that's pretty cool. A lot of people are digging the Spotify format for that. Do we have any ratings or reviews of note of recent? We do have one recently from a little offended.

Uh-oh. I'm not going to read that one. But this guy just last week says this podcast is a much listen. It is a must listen. It is hard to do justice trying to describe this podcast. Do we do this one already? I don't think so. If you are music lover, this podcast is a must listen.

Peter and Adam lead you on a wonderful musical journey Just listen and you'll see what I mean Thank you very much That's from Jiu-F-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-ha-ha- Okay, well there you have it Well, good stuff Well, this is always fun

So this will be up And you guys will be listening This is all up in your ears Very shortly Yeah, until next time You'll hear it