You'll Hear It: Full Album Deep Dives with Jazz Musicians - Comment Analysis: Our "Lingus" Solo Discussion - S3E43

Episode Date: February 27, 2019

On a special Analysis episode, Peter and Adam read some comments from their infamous "Lingus" Solo Discussion. To see a more in-depth analysis on this tune, check out David Bruce's video here.Let us know what you think by leaving a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review, or head over to our YouTube channel and leave a comment for this episode.Interested in more jazz advice? Go here to browse our catalog of jazz lessons and courses available for purchase.Follow us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram at:https://www.facebook.com/heyopenstudiohttps://twitter.com/heyopenstudiohttps://www.instagram.com/heyopenstudio See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Hey, Adam. Yeah. How often do we do this podcast? Every day. Except weekends. I'm Adam Maness. And I'm Peter Martin. And you're listening to the You'll Hearer podcast. Daily jazz advice coming at you. Daily, jazz advice coming at you. Daily, every single day. Emphasis on daily. Trying to get something out there. That's right. Pumping out the content. You know, for the last few months, we've been doing what we've called solo analysis Wednesday. That's right. Or sometimes track analysis Wednesday, if it's not a particular solo, where we just listen to a, uh, a solo that we love. Yes. And we talk about it.

Yep. And it's more of a discussion than an analysis probably. Some weeks. And then a couple weeks ago, we waded into the waters that are snarky puppy. Yeah. And some pretty ravenous fans. Apparently so. And our Rinky Dink podcast analysis got, drew a lot of ire from folks on the old

YouTube. And it was specifically on the YouTube. So that's definitely the place where. It's funny. We didn't hear anything from like, email or people who are into the podcast. Speak pipe. No speak pipe.

You know what? We talked about this when we did the analysis of, quote unquote analysis of Corey Henry solo on Lingus that it has like, well, it was like 18 million views or something like that. Yeah. It was like an insane amount of views for what's essentially a jazz solo. And people were upset that we even called it like jazz. I know.

Like how it's as close to jazz as any, you know what I mean? Like. But I mean, actually, you know, I was really excited that. that a lot of people were interested in what we were saying, be it positive or negative. Yeah, you know, we actually had a lot of love as well as a lot of hate. Well, I think we were just getting kind of like a clash of two different audiences.

We definitely had the you'll hear it folks that kind of know our style and know that we do stuff off the cuff. We don't rehearse this. We don't have, this is not a produced, I mean, it's a produced show, but it's not scripted.

And everything is kind of like, we don't do cuts. We don't have fancy graphics and everything. I think we have really good audio. We have really good video. But this is just us. bantering, talking. And as we called it, look, I'm looking now, it's clearly, it does not say solo analysis. It says solo discussion. Okay. No. One caveat with that is it did say solo analysis.

Because we've always called it solo analysis. And so many people were rabidly upset that we called that analysis that I changed it. Oh, you did? Oh, sorry. I didn't know that. And they're actually right. It's not a detailed analysis. And before we go any further, because we are going to analyze these YouTube comments, which are hilarious. Before we go any further, I would want to point everybody to David Bruce. He's got an awesome YouTube channel called David Bruce Composer. He actually showed a picture of us analyzing, quote, unquote, this solo.

And then he went on a friggin' awesome deep dive analysis of the solo and a transcription. Oh, that's the thing you show. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. And we're not going to do that. We don't have time. We have to do this podcast every day. We're doing this every day. Exactly. I mean, how often his videos are very good. His videos are amazing. And he gets really deep into it, deeper than anybody on the internet ever has on the solo. So if you love Corey Henry and you Love the Lingus Solo.

Check out. David Bruce Composer. Andrew put a link here. We'll even hook him up here with some of our listeners. Go there. Yeah. And I think, yeah,

go ahead. I mean, if you want superficial daily banter by two nerds to talk about the arch-architecture of the solo and the textures we love and some of the concepts, the big picture concepts, we think the soloist is thinking. Right.

Were you guys? We're up in the clouds looking down. We got a lot of stuff going on, man. We don't have time to, no, look, But we do, and this is good that you change, it's solo discussion, because this, and we could have more of a thing. I mean, we've gone on an analysis of some Herbie stuff, the Wyton Kelly solo.

I mean, we have transcriptions and all that different thing, but that's for another thing. And really, you know, I realize, too, I've known and seen this video, but I don't know it that well. And I think I mentioned that in the video, like, it's nothing that I've really gone through and, like, you know, transcribe. The lingus solo. Yeah. Yeah. And so, but so many people were asking us on our opinion on it. And then, apparently, they didn't like what our opinion on it was.

Well, you know what happens? We just got caught up in the Corey Henry Sartney Puppy Love Fest that the people who are searching on YouTube thinking that we were going to do a detailed analysis. And they just got pissed off that this was not as detailed as they wanted. And, you know. It's all good. It's all good. Okay. Are we going to look at some of the comments?

Let's do that. Because that is the analysis that I want to talk about. So this is going to be a true analysis. Nobody can complain. But we're analyzing the comments. The first one I saw, which, you know, I think that YouTube kind of, you know, algorithm. how they wanted to show up. But so the one at the top of my thing is,

how can you title this solo analysis? We didn't, okay? We did it first. Oh, we did it first. Okay, how can you title the solo analysis when there isn't a single instance of you breaking down a melodic, rhythmic,

or a harmonic idea? This is a glorified reaction video. That's what you should have titled it, titled it, glorified reaction video of Lingus by Corey Henry. Maybe that's what we'll title this one, glorified reaction video of our solo analysis of Corey Henry.

But this is a little, unfair Thyrus Dionysus, you know, must be a Greek gentleman. Because we broke down a little, we definitely broke down some rhythmic stuff, I remember that. We actually, you know, what we broke down as superficial as it was, and really

about the overall structure and the architecture, I thought it was decent. I mean, it was like... We definitely talked about melodic things and harmonic. I mean... I think people want what, you know, our buddy David Bruce over there has, which is like transcriptions and to be able to see it. And, you know, they want

a lot. But actually, I love that. Actually, I'm going to say, I'm going to like that comment right now, a glorified reaction video. But then we had some nice replies to that. So we're going, we're going deep on this analysis of these comments. So then Tony Watson said, as a reaction to Thyrus Dionysus, it's more of a conceptual analysis rather than a technical one. I think the commentary adds to the experience for me personally. I've probably listened to the solo a million times, know it note for note. And these guys interpreted it very nicely, IMO. And I don't know if you know what IMO means, but I got teenagers, in my opinion. No, I'm aware. Yeah, I'm aware. Good. So that's, you know what, Tony? Yeah, you're my man. It's more of a conceptual analysis. So maybe that's what we should.

Can we change it again to conceptual analysis? But yeah, we did. I mean, when we talked about that architecture, concept, kind of, you know, the big sections where it fits into the whole thing, you know. And look, I appreciate this. If for some of you, we apologize if it didn't add to your experience because we know it's a beloved video. That's why we did it because people kept asking us about it.

But we always want our commentaries. And so at least for some of you, the commentaries. added to the experience to him personally. So we appreciate that. This one from Zen guitar guy, I love this because I can't actually tell if he's being facetious or not. I love this concept.

Literally, armchair commentary on music improvisation. It would be great to take this commentary and re-record it with Sports Guy VO faster and more intense and make it like commentary on the Super Bowl. I've never seen anything like this where two guys sitting,

deconstruct a piece of improvisation and talk it down like two guys watching Tiger Woods set up a five-par drive. Good job, gentlemen. I don't know if he liked it or not. I'm going to go with, yeah. And then my all-time favorite of the entire thread,

Waste of Time. That's it. Okay, let's analyze that comment. Let's go on a deep analysis. Waste of time, the solo, or our analysis of it? I think our analysis of it. I think our video of our analysis is a waste of time. I mean, that comment is actually

pretty good. It's succinct. It's three words. It got across the hatred for the video. And then, oh, Andrew got a shout out. Guys use giant steps for a sensor. Well done, sirs. Nice, nice. Well done, Andrew. Okay, look, I lost my browser here. Hold on. I had a good one going. This is actually... Wait, what is the name of the one, the guy's other video that we were, you were just mentioning? David Bruce. Oh, David Bruce. Okay, I thought he put a comment here. Oh, I like this one from Fran the music legend. You should analyze a Jacob Collier solo. Nope. Not in a million years. Not a million years.

I feel like he's got some rabid fans too. Yeah, not. No, we're going back to like Freddie Hubbard next week. I know, but I'm like, Winton Kelly solo that we are in that. Didn't we do an analysis of that? We've done it. Witten Kelly, we've done bird. I mean, he's got to be rabid fans of Charlie Park.

Can we just nail it that much better? I don't know, man. This is great. This is a nice little exchange here. Talking about music is often like dancing about architecture. And then a reply, what an ignorant thing to say. People are just, you know what it is? YouTube is a desolate, angry place.

It's a very snarky place. Ooh, it's a snarky place. I like this one where they, some of these ones where they just reference the time code and then we went to see him because we never watch this stuff ourselves, do we? Okay, he just said the bass player, laugh, laugh emoji.

And so I think that you are like, yeah, the bass player. And I think this must be like to snarky puppies because the bass player who actually I know it. It's Michael Lee, yeah. Yeah, Michael Lee, great guy. I know Michael. And one of the originators of the band, I believe. He has the founder of the band.

Like I said, found a bit. But the snarky puppy fans, I love it that like they think it's hilarious that you call him the bass player and not. I know. Come on. I've called Paul Chambers the bass player before in our analyst analysis videos. This is a good one from G. Coucho. Oh, wait, wait, hold up.

I just got to give the, I didn't even see the replies because they were hidden the replies to that. When you said he said the bass player, somebody else said, I had the same reaction, same laughing emoji or crying. I don't know what that is. poor Michael and then another one he needs to be called maestro league or big Mike I'm not doing that so Gouch says the cool cats of piffle which I had to look up and it's it's not a good thing you can use two hands quote unquote and other incredible insights this is the first video I happened to see by you guys and life is too short so yeah won't be back but I love that I love that we have people that listen every day

and never leave any comment. I know. And love it, which is fine. No problem. No one's required to you. But then someone that just happens in, watches the whole video, takes the time to comment and says,

won't be back. That's, that's priceless. Man, a lot of, a lot of Chick Korea shouting out on this. Yeah. You know, like some, in some actual discussion in the comments

about how much this solo is influenced by Chick. I'm not going to go into a discussion about the solo again, but I'm just saying. Please don't. Now I'm just kind of, randomly looking around.

Oh, you grab some of my good ones. Yeah, I already grab some of the guys. Here I like this one from jazz snobs. I like how sometimes the title could tell. Like, I already know, I'm like, okay, they're going to be on our side, for sure. For sure. Because it's not like snarky snobs, you know?

Yeah, yeah. For some reason, I've never, I've never expected you talk about contemporary fusion-y stuff. This is a great solo. I've been listening over and over. Thank you, PM and AM for this solo analysis. Yeah. Okay.

There was one commenter that has since deleted their comments where they said, stop calling snarky puppy jazz. And I remember this so clearly because it was so concise. Stop calling snarky puppy jazz. They're closer to Mongolian throat singing than they are to jazz or as close to which is so not true. They literally play ahead, have improvised solos and play the head out. Like come on, man.

Right. But I like those, at least that comma wasn't against us. So, yeah. Oh, no, it was. It was against us. Yeah. I mean, they're not like straight ahead jazz, of course. I like this one.

Certainly jazz influence. I like this one because it's insulting us for yet another bad analysis we did from Daryl Martinez. Those are audio technica headphones, by the way, not beats, just saying. That's my favorite one where you said, oh, and they're beats headphones, and someone's like, don't want to be that guy. All right, we got to, we got to cut this. Man, they go on forever. I know, we go on forever. Well, I got one here.

Big shout out to Royce, the pianists. Whoa. That's our boy Royce. That's our boy, Royce. Thank you. You know what? This will be the last time we do, I think, a YouTube. analysis unless unless we do actually do Jacob Collier.

I'm going to sit in here for the next two hours and read these together. Let's do have David Bruce do Jacob Collier and then we can just analyze his analysis of Jacob Collier. That'd be great. That would be good. All right. You know, thanks for everybody. Man, you're saying this so facetiously.

I love it. Thanks for all of those folks. Thanks for the lovers. Thanks to the haters. Mama always said that was going to be haters. Did your mama tell you that too? She did. Yes, right.

But you know what? It was actually fun. It was fun reading all the comments and all the discussion or whatever. It was fun waiting into kind of a little bit of a mainstream YouTube video. Don't want to do it again anytime soon. Well, the thing is... We'll just go back to our little like straight-ahead jazz corner. Exactly.

No, but the thing is, and I'm actually glad we did it because some people that were the real like, oh, I thought you guys only did straight ahead. And we, you know, we listen to a lot of different things. Yeah. We, you know, we try not to say that we're experts on anything except the only time we get really experty is that we're talking about specific piano stuff, I guess. And even that is like, what is that? Your YM, M, V, your mileage may vary. Yeah, absolutely.

Exactly. We're going to start putting that. It's different for everybody, everything. But big shout out to snarky puppy, Corey Henry. Amazing. You know, and I mean, I think that the rabidness of your fans is well deserved. And I respect for sure for that. It's just a funny intersection we got here.

So we'll be back next Wednesday for a new solo discussion. A new feature on the Yule here, but I guess, solo discussion. Yeah, yeah. Relaxed, you know, general bird's eye view. from the clouds. Until tomorrow, you'll hear it.