You'll Hear It: Full Album Deep Dives with Jazz Musicians - Gen X Pianists React to 2021 Jazz

Episode Date: March 11, 2021

Today, Peter and Adam expand their jazz sonic palette and check out some new releases. Links from this episode:Listen to all of these songs in full with our Spotify playlist hereCheck out th...e YouTube video for this episode right herePeter's holding a special Connected in Place concert to celebrate a year of Friday live performances - you can tune in this Friday, March 12 at 8:00 PM EST by following this linkInterested in more music advice? Go here to browse our catalog of jazz lessons and courses available for purchase. And be sure to check out our All Access Pass - every course from Open Studio on every instrument.Let us know what you think by leaving a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review, or head over to our YouTube channel.Follow us on Facebook | Twitter | Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hey, Adam. Yes. You ready to react to 2021, bruh? What? What? What? What? And wait till you see his reaction to song number seven.
Starting point is 00:00:28 I'm Adam Manus. And I'm Peter Martin. And you're listening to the Yulinar podcast. Music advice coming at you. Coming at you today. We're sponsored by Open Studio, of course. Go to Open Studiojazz.com for all your jazz lesson needs. Peter, what's up?
Starting point is 00:00:41 Well, today we are going to listen to some music, which is always fun. You know I love listening to music. Yeah. Listen to music is fun. And we're not only going to listen to music. We are going to react. Now, I don't want to, I don't want to program this too much, and I'm not telling you how you need to react. But I am telling you that you need to react. I was going to say, I bet you, I feel like you're about to tell me something.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Well, no, I think that, you know, look, whatever's natural. If we don't have reactions, but I think that we are. And the idea of this is that there's always great new music out there. And we talk about this as like, you know, support music. listen to new stuff. But I was really thinking it's like, well, how do we, you and I, but to the listeners and just the community in general,
Starting point is 00:01:24 how does one discover music? How is that different in 2021? And so I went about some kind of discovery, like looking for music in some ways that I didn't. Because I think typically for us, and I think for a lot of musicians and maybe people that are fairly, consider themselves fairly musically astute
Starting point is 00:01:41 in the jazz world, what will do is draw upon, the vast knowledge of music that we know when it comes to listening. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's sort of like, okay, I want to listen, like, you know a mood or a vibe or a particular song or an artist. And so that's your go-to. So you're able to use the streaming service or whatever more is just like a directly,
Starting point is 00:02:03 that's like you go into the library, you don't even look at the card catalog or at the, wait, does that still exist? The Dewey Dewey Dewey Dewey. I love that thing, man. Who is Dewey? I love that dude. But Miles Dewey Davis. See, that's his middle name.
Starting point is 00:02:16 There you go. But the idea is like you're going laser focus for what you already know. But there was a time now. This is before even young Adam was growing up in High Ridge. We're talking pre-Adam being alive possibly even. Maybe even pre-Peter being alive. But there was a time when the record store
Starting point is 00:02:32 was a place of discovery and recommendation. I mean, maybe even curation. I think so. I mean, for me it was CD stores when I was in high school. But I think that was a, you know. Like at the mall? Yeah. Do you ever just go into like a record store
Starting point is 00:02:44 and then you just see something, you don't know how it sounds, you just like the cover and you heard of the artist, and you're like, everybody says I should be checking out Thelonious Monk. I guess I'll buy this one.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I have no idea what it is. Right. Yeah. And I think that that is still happening, you know, some, and actually, you know, with some record LP stores coming back in,
Starting point is 00:03:02 and actually here in St. Louis, we're fortunate to have some wonderful. We got Webster Records, Street Side Records. Not on Street Side. We have vintage. Record exchange. Record exchange.
Starting point is 00:03:11 You know, we got some good stuff happening. But in terms of, like, especially during this time of kind of lockdown and people being sheltering in place more, I think we think about the streaming services. So that got me thinking is like, what does it like to discover music via Spotify? I'm really interested in people's thoughts on this because I'm always curious of how, do you have these friends? So I, here's, here's. Yes, I have friends. I know you have I've found. I've discovered most of the music that I love in my life. Tell me. It's through a friend who knows more about music than me. Yeah. I usually, and I have, I still keep, and it's been very
Starting point is 00:03:43 useful in the pandemic. You're one of them. I have a, I have a group of friends that I'll text with, and they'll send me, hey, Marty Daly's one. Yeah. Chris Stark is one. Yeah. And they'll send me stuff like, hey, you should listen to this. Montez is one. Yeah. And I'm getting text. Like, you know, they're never going to text you anymore than you're putting them on blast on, on, on podcasts. They don't listen to this podcast. No, but, but they're texting me all the time. That's the number one way that I find new music. Yeah. So I'm interested in how people who don't have friends like that So that would fall into the category of sort of social proof, no, social recommendations. And that's, I think, is certainly still very important.
Starting point is 00:04:23 And that doesn't really change with time. But I'm talking about like what happens if we just go to say Spotify. And I'm going to pull up our little Spotify thing here. And I'm going to punch in. Like we're going to really start from the ground up, as they say. We're going to go search. And just so you know, I have a Spotify premium account. So there's no telling what I'm going to get here, right?
Starting point is 00:04:45 I'm just going to put in jazz, right? Okay. So this is the opposite of how we normally would go to listen to music where we're saying I'm going to go listen to John Coltrane's fourth track on Blue Train. Literally, guys, Peter Martin is Googling jazz right now. That's right. That's right. Well, kind of.
Starting point is 00:05:02 No, but I'm putting a jazz into Spotify app, okay? And then I'm not going to go to any of these playlists yet. I'm going to go because they have something called genre. Like jazz is not just a lifestyle It's a genre Okay I just love saying that word Say it with me
Starting point is 00:05:16 Genre Now that I've said that It's not actually Oh yeah see all genres and moods That's weird They call it a mood Is jazz a mood So I'm here
Starting point is 00:05:26 With the genre of jazz now Okay So it gives me immediately And this shows you How Spotify can be And we're going to find out today I think Along with our dear listeners
Starting point is 00:05:38 Whether I can be a successful discovery tool but it's definitely set up as a discovery tool because I put jazz, like, I want to listen to jazz. Like, you're literally like, I just want to listen to some jazz. Not smooth jazz, not progressive jazz, not alt rock jazz, just jazz, right? Okay. So what comes up?
Starting point is 00:05:54 I have four featured playlist at the top. Okay. The first one is called All New Jazz. All new jazz. Yeah. And look, since we're Peter and Adam React to 2021 Jazz today, that sounds like it's right up our alley. Perfect. So should we jump in on that?
Starting point is 00:06:06 Let's jump in on that. Okay. So I go to All New Jazz. The very first thing presented, and so I, I would have to take this as this is their number one recommendation. I don't know. They don't tell me. Is this the most popular?
Starting point is 00:06:17 Is this the algorithm? Is this just for this neighborhood? Have they pinpointed? We don't know. We just know that Spotify is telling me something, right? There's some kind of crowdsourcing algorithmically going on, right? So number one, the message by Gary Bartz. And this is all stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:34 When I look at up the album, it was just released in February of 2021. That's like just a couple weeks ago. Yeah. So I didn't even know. Gary Bart's had a new album out. So I'm already excited about that because I love Gary Bartz. So let's react to it. What is Gary Bartz doing in 2021?
Starting point is 00:06:48 I would like to hear that. And what is Spotify I want to hear? Like this is just a track off the album. Why do they want us to hear this? We don't know. Okay. Should we listen? Let's listen.
Starting point is 00:06:56 This is called The Message. And we're going to talk a little bit more than we normally do over an album. Because this is about us reacting. If you like the music, go out and discover it yourself, right? I like this bass sound a lot. It's nice. Rhodes. Adrian Young.
Starting point is 00:07:19 and Ali Shahid Muhammad who I'm not really familiar with This is really dope Yeah painting a picture for the listener Adam has stank face now Nice right It's really nice
Starting point is 00:07:51 Okay can you send me this playlist Are we making a playlist? Yeah we have a place You can look in the description here on YouTube Or in the podcast Yeah I need this in my life Yeah now this is nice And so guess what the name of this album is
Starting point is 00:08:11 What? Jazz is dead Now what is the irony of that in that we seem to be reinvigorated on our jazz listening. Yeah, that's crazy. That track really made me love jazz more. So kind of an ironic title of that. But that's, okay, so far, what do we say about the Spotify algorithm? Winning?
Starting point is 00:08:30 I think it's good. This is the number one thing that it's recommending. It's better than the stuff you send me. Sorry. And this is 2021. Okay. So like I was saying, we're going to talk through and we're going to stop and start this more than we normally do because this is all about the reaction. And this is not to give short shift.
Starting point is 00:08:45 to any of this. If you enjoy this, check out the playlist. You can stream it or buy, pick up the CD or whatever. Hopefully you'll discover something that you like. Dang. Now, I'm just looking through the list on this all new jazz. And look, this has, this playlist has 21,000 likes. I don't know if that's a lot or a little, but that's, keep that in mind because we're going to look at some other playlists, okay?
Starting point is 00:09:07 How many, how many likes did you say? 21,286. Should I like it? I'm going to like it. Now it has 21, 287. This is great. This is a great format you got going on here. Okay, now the next stuff, I don't recognize any of these other artists until we get down to about number 10.
Starting point is 00:09:24 But before that, I do want to play this track. You ready for something else? Okay. Because the name jumps out at me. It's called Maness. What? Yeah. Okay, let me turn it up a little bit here.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And your name is Manus. It is. Oh. There it is. There's your playlist. This is Manus by Alec Moon and Michael Sarian. Manas, actually, I don't know. It just jumped out of me because your name is Manus, right?
Starting point is 00:10:02 Who's this by? Olik or Alec Moon? M-U-N-D-U has an umlat. You know um-lat? And Michael Sarian. Probably from Philly. Finland, Philly Finland, maybe. This almost sounds like the trumpet on Homeland soundtrack from the Showtime series.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I do not know if that's what that is, though. The name of the album. So this is 2020. This was released March 5th, 2021. Is that new enough for you, buddy? Two days ago. That's two days ago. It's called Makara.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Can play. Yeah. It's not grabbing you like the last one, did it. That's okay. But now we just, we heard something. That's jazz in 2021, according to Spotify, all new jazz. Now I'm going to jump down to the name. next artist that I recognize. And this is Charlie Hunter, Jeff Clap, friend of the podcast,
Starting point is 00:11:16 occasional substitute host of the podcast. That's right. Yeah, yeah. Of the You'll Hear podcast. And Sam Frybush, who I'm not familiar with. So, okay, so check it out. Yes. I actually bought this album. Did you? I have the vinyl is on the way, apparently. I bought this on vinyl. So I discovered this on Instagram because I'm friends with Jeff clap and uh i follow charlie uh charlie hunter yeah on instagram and they were playing you know posting these videos playing with sam frybush i had not heard of them and then i i saw clap or dapper playing with him and i was like who is this kid sounds awesome and i kind of sort of found him and then when this album came out i uh yeah i bought it right away on vinyl so
Starting point is 00:12:03 hopefully it'll be here jet clap if you can if you can If you can rush that He was on the chat for a minute Yeah if you're listening now If you can rush that vinyl Please So this is The name of this cut is
Starting point is 00:12:15 We Must be in love And this will be interesting This is so good by the way I've heard I've heard I mean I've listened to like as much as I can From all of this Yeah it's awesome
Starting point is 00:12:23 So let's check it out Charlie Hunter Sam Frybush Jeff Clap We must be in love North Carolina is in the house This gets the glasses This gets the sunglasses I'm going to paint a picture
Starting point is 00:12:40 Adam has sunglasses glasses on. Head, relax, slightly to the left side. Charlie Hunter's a genius. He is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:49 He's playing with one finger right now. His other hands behind his back. Jeff Clap, laying down to groove. What? Clap can groove.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I've been so excited about this, about getting, I can't wait to get the vinyl. Because, so since the pandemic hit and all these North Carolina musicians have been in North Carolina,
Starting point is 00:13:16 including clap or dapper over here, yeah. They've been posting videos Charlie Hunter and Clapham posting videos. And I've been a fan of that. And I've been like, man, I hope these guys do something together. And then when I discovered the Sam Freibusch kid, I was like, well, this is right up my alley. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:31 But this, this keys player, this young Sam Freibush, is legit. Yeah. Great. Yeah, he sounds good. So, well, there you go. So that's some good discovery that you had via Instagram anyway. And I had, who personally don't clap, but the name jumped up. So that's the all-new jazz playlist.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Don't stop it. Turn it back up for a second. Come on, sorry, here we go. Do I control that? I do control that. Listen to those brushes there.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Uh. Yeah, you know? Killer sound, too. I think this is Misha and Esplanade Studio in New Orleans on Esplanade Avenue, I believe. Can you confirm that for me, Jeff? Esplanade Studios.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Uh. Uh. B3 sounds great. Oh, there's fry boy. She's on here right now. What's up? Man, it sounds so good. Should be proud.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Sounds so good, but he wants to know where his elbow. He wants to know if you send it USPS or FedEx. Yeah, this right here is right down, this is right down my, my center lane. You know what I'm saying? I'll knock this out of the park every time. This is going on my regular rotation as soon as it comes in. Nice. So, oh, no, it was at the high, oh, that's right, the High Point Studio.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I didn't, I knew that because I saw the footage. It's a great sound, man. And that was Stephen Price, big shout out to Stephen Price, who I've been hearing good things about. So, yeah, North Carolina, I mean, y'all can call, you know, Adam and I actually both have, I think mine's a little closer connection because both of my parents are from North Carolina, Charlotte and Durham area, respectively. But you got a little North Carolina. We have family over there, too. There's a lot of, there's a lot of mainis in North Carolina. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:42 They say menace over there, which is wrong. You're not from the Finnish monasses? No, I'm not. Cool. Well, thank you, Jeff and Sam and. whatever that guitar player was. Some slouch. Charlie Hunter's,
Starting point is 00:15:57 and he was in 17 fingers and deep soulful playing. So that's going to be a great way to check out. Okay, so you know what? I'm going to give a thumbs up based upon that. And, you know, what do we?
Starting point is 00:16:09 Well, the Manas, I'm not sure about, but the Gary Bartz for sure. And so, you know, we don't have time to go through all these other ones, but maybe there's some other dope stuff like that on this All New Jazz Spotify playlist. But we don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Well, let's check it out. Let's keep going. No, no, we're going to another one. You're not listening to me, man. Come on. No, I thought you were going back. No, we're going to go to another, because we've got other playlist.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Okay. So that's all new jazz. The next one, there's four separate playlist that it recommends when you just search genre of jazz, right? Okay. The next one is interesting because it's called Changes. And I was like...
Starting point is 00:16:39 This is the name of the playlist is Changes? Yeah, changes. And, oh, actually, it's Connie Hahn, our friend, friend of the podcast on the cover here. Oh, she's been on the show, yeah. She's been on the show. And I think she might be making... Oh, but you know what?
Starting point is 00:16:51 This changed since... Huh. Okay, so this is good. This is something we're learning about the algorithm. When I check this out a few hours ago, there was a different order. Or maybe these are things that have been added. Oh, interesting. So maybe the changes, because it says it's the shape of jazz today. So maybe it's dynamic. It's changing as the day goes on. Yeah, because there's new ones. So that's, look, we're learning stuff. So that's, I'm reacting to that. I like it. It's like jazz is moving that fast. But again, this is one that claims to be a Spotify playlist that is all. new music so should be 2021 and their tagline for this playlist is the shape of jazz today okay I already said that um so the first one I had when I first looked at it that we're gonna listen to is this and then we'll talk about what it is hold up this is Taylor EITZ what do you know about him I know he's a good young keyboard very talented he's not that young anymore he's not that young anymore he's really good
Starting point is 00:17:47 right he's younger than us well I mean yeah okay so this is called Hutch Hutch Eonite. Hutch Eonite. Hutch Eon. Hutch is not on it though. Hutch is not on there? Yeah. Is that how you say that? Hutch Eon. Are there any flurries on there?
Starting point is 00:18:02 Ask me next week's episode. But the idea of this did catch my eye because it was Hutch. But this is the first thing it recommended on the list when I first looked at it. So this is the algorithm thinking about what the changes are. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Yeah. No, no. Yeah. Even more so. A little more dude jazz, though, maybe. I don't know. You say dude jazz? You know, dude jazz.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Scofield. Chickory electric band. You know. You know. Music that dudes are at. You know, got a match. Killing it. Yeah, yeah, dudeish for sure.
Starting point is 00:19:06 But very much fire. A good, though, right. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's the first. Actually, I don't know what he's doing there, but there's like this bunch of like really cool moving diatonic triads that I was really digging. Yeah. Like, it's an interesting sound. I could see what he's going for there.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Taylor is very talented. Very talented. Very talented. Been one of my favorite young-youngish pianists for a while. Okay, so now the second on this change is, okay, and I should just say that this is 168,548 followers. This is a much bigger playlist. I don't know why it wasn't first, that the all-new jazz was first, but this is a pretty big for jazz, as we'll see. So, you know, and it is, like we said, dynamically updated.
Starting point is 00:19:45 The next one that came up for me is conception. And this just came out as well, just a couple weeks ago. John Patatucci trio with Vinnie Calliuda, one of the greatest drummers, and Bill Conliff. Conleff? I always forget how to say, isn't that? Bill's amazing. I love his playing. So let's check this out. This is Conception. Jazz of 2021.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Let's see how we react. Who is this again? Bill Cunleff. Man, John Patatucci. What the what? Yeah. It's a bass player's album, so we're going to bass solos first. Nothing wrong with that. It's like such an understated virtual.
Starting point is 00:21:29 But he is a virtuoso. He really is. Yeah. Vinny too. Yeah. So, what do you think? What's your reaction to that there? I think the playing's amazing.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Obviously, the playing's amazing. I thought you were going to be more excited about that. I'm not as excited about the concept, about the conception. I mean, I understand maybe it's just my mood. Sometimes I'm really in the mood for like easy swingers. Okay. There's nothing easy about that tune, but, you know, but like just, we're just, we're making an album in 2021.
Starting point is 00:22:10 We're just going to swing the hell out of it. Yeah, but not good enough for Adam Manus. Not good enough for Adam Manus is what we're learning. Not today. And I think it's maybe after hearing like the fry bush. Yeah. And Manas. No, the Manas.
Starting point is 00:22:22 I could take a leave. But even just after the Taylor. The Taylor, I'd see. Just something new. Yeah. So what you're saying is. I think now I'm in the mood for like a new thing, right? So what you're saying is like I need to be, I need to discover a new sound.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Yeah. So for 2021. you want it to sound like 2021. We don't know what that is, but we know it's not conception. Although that was some great sound. But I, and I don't, I'm nothing but respect for, obviously, for all those guys in there.
Starting point is 00:22:51 It's amazing stuff. So I just need to be in the mood for that, I think. Got it, got it. Yeah. Okay, so we got a couple more on here on this change. And I know I'm a little bit out of order from what the playlist is, but this is, we're going to hit all the ones that are on that playlist. The next one that came up for me on this changes.
Starting point is 00:23:09 playlist was and look man they're adding stuff all the time this is a dynamic um playlist to the point of oh there's our friend billy childs with dory we listened to that the other night dude that was amazing that's a great great album right very much you know yeah that guy that guy's too talented yeah and yeah i'm so humbled by his his uh all of it all of it the playing and the and the writing man yeah okay let me go just i'm gonna go straight to the playlist here We're going to go. So the next, okay, this was actually one of the next ones now, but I recognize the name because he's somebody I play with in his amazing saxophonist from Rome, Italy, Mr. Stefano di Battista, did some touring with him. So he has something new out.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Italian glasses out. Look at this guy. I don't think they wear him like that. But the idea of this is, I don't think I would have known that he had a new album out had it not been for me discovering it on this playlist. So this is Stefano di Battista, and I'm going to butcher the name of this. Do you want to take a crack at it? Or are we just going to... No, you got it.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Coz a vette de facto es a lingerge. It's not bad. You know this guy? You play with this? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's...
Starting point is 00:24:30 I know you like those baseline, bass and left hand. That stuff, I like it too. You know, just some nice stuff. You know, maybe not groundbreaking, but wonderful, beautiful playing. This could be 2021, but it could also be, you know, 2011, right? 2009. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 00:25:22 So what's your reaction? I think it's good, not great. That's my reaction. Good night, great. Ooh, I like it. I like it. So, you know, these are the kind of things you always like, because I play with Stefano, someone I know him a little bit,
Starting point is 00:25:33 and I've hung with him, and I think about all the amazing things he's played. This might be something that if you heard and you didn't know, so I know all he can do, that, like, how would you know from Spotify recommending one track? If you listen and you're like, ah, good, not great. Maybe what else is on the album? That's the difficult part about it.
Starting point is 00:25:50 It's not fair, too, because I need to, I've heard 30 seconds. Right. So I need to listen a little bit more. Well, we go an inch deep and a mile wide here at the you'll hear a podcast. It's nice. Don't get me wrong. Like, it's obviously high quality. I think now I'm, here's the thing, man.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Once we found, like, when we found, what was the first track we listened to? Gary Bartz. Oh, yeah, that was dope. Like a new sound like that? Now I'm excited about new sounds. And so now everything kind of, now I'm like, I just want to listen to that Gary Barts again. Yeah, well, we could, but YouTube and might come after us. But this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:26:23 That's another thing that's interesting. If you're going to go playlist, like with Spotify, like we do today, you're at the mercy of whatever you see first, whatever it recommends. And if that brings you in, is it going to serve you up those other things? Is it going to take you off the, you know, into different directions or whatever? So that's an interesting thing to think about. So we're going to listen to one more from this playlist, the changes playlist. And that is, again, because it's at the top, and I recognize the thing.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Chad Lefkowitz Brown, also known as Chad L.B. Chad L.B. Chad L.B. And he's doing all the things you are. I like Chad's playing a lot, actually. I like it, too. His name, though. Is that a saxophonist name, Chad?
Starting point is 00:27:03 It is now. Okay. Well, I guess it's like Gary, you know, Gary Barge, Sunny, Sonny Rollins. Yeah, come on. Okay. Chad LB. Okay, here we go. All the things you are.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Don't be biased against the chads of the world. Like a Chad on F&L. Oh. Okay, initial thoughts. I'm going to give you some initial thoughts. I like the intro. When Chad L.B came in, though, it took me to the wiki, wiki room at the Ramada in North. Sorry. Wiki, wiki.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Which is not necessarily not that kind of wiki wiki, you know, like the Hawaiian thing. I don't know why. There's nothing wrong with what's happening here. Am I being judgment? Am I being too fast and too judgmental? No, no. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I'd have to listen to more.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Okay. We listen to you listen to eight bars of the head. Come on. Okay. Oh, fun. Oh, nice. A little video there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Oh, nice. It's a little bit of, what's that groove called? I don't know. Just to me, this is not, this is really good playing all around. And it's nice, but it doesn't entice me outside of the video. The video is really good. cool actually. It doesn't entice me to
Starting point is 00:29:29 want to dig deeper and I don't want to be negative because it sounds really good. The other thing I noticed with Chad because he's so influenced like many the younger generation of saxon was by Joshua Redmond. Like it gets me constantly, you know, because during that certain period I was
Starting point is 00:29:45 when I was playing with Josh and hanging with him and even before, you know, just that whole period like I heard the evolution of that sound and like the influences of it. So now when I hear players playing like him, Not that they shouldn't be influenced. I mean, that's a great influence and Mark Turner,
Starting point is 00:29:59 all these great players that came up when we were coming up. But it's just a little bit like throws me off a little bit. I think here's what I think's happening here. Because now I'm noticing a pattern with what we're liking and not liking. I think we're not liking things
Starting point is 00:30:10 we normally would like because of what we're playing next to each other. This is an interesting phenomenon though. Because I think if we were listening to more straight ahead stuff next to this, we would be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. The same thing with the Patatucci thing, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:24 So maybe it's, Maybe that's a downside to the Spotify algorithm. I think so. Yeah. I think so. And maybe this is a problem. I think, but more interestingly, than that is, I don't even know what I'm doing with some of the sunglasses.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I'll be honest. It's an audio podcast. It's an audio podcast. But more interestingly than that, I think, is that like, this is telling me something about my own preferences, about my own listening habits. And so maybe. Implicit biases. Well, no, but maybe when I'm listening and searching for stuff, that's not the time to
Starting point is 00:30:54 compare it to like Miles or Coaltrain or something, right? Like, yeah, I should, I think I know the way forward here. Okay, keep going, keep going. This is really fascinating, though. Yeah. So, well, that's it for the... By the way, Chad, I'll be a hell of a player. Like...
Starting point is 00:31:07 Oh, no, it's great. And someone was making a note in the chat here about his education. I think his educational videos are excellent. Big shout out to Chad. He does great stuff. Big, uh, mad respect there. Okay, so that's the changes, um, playlist. And I would say all around, even though we maybe didn't like
Starting point is 00:31:24 the way they were presented juxtapose against some other things. That was a pretty good representation of sort of what's happening, you know, 2021. And look, I'm feeling good about jazz in 2021 because it's only March. I mean, we're doing pretty good here, right? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:31:38 All this stuff has been released already. All this stuff sounds great. Yeah. So now I've only actually got one more, but we could jump around on some other things, but only one more playlist with a track that's on our, I mean, it's actually on our playlist.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And that is the Jazz Tronica. playlist and I this I mean look this came up I said genre of jazz Spotify rammed it down my throat so we got to talk about it and also this has half a million followers oh my god whatever that means we're going to hate this to this playlist I don't know jazz tronica
Starting point is 00:32:07 yeah jazz tronica it's uh yeah exactly it's it's electronica plus jazz so we're going to listen to a track called why don't I keep losing my playlist Adam because like I said it's the first time I've ever done this vacuum lessons
Starting point is 00:32:24 You ready? What? That's the name of it. It's the first thing that came up. Vacuum lessons from the Jazz Tronica playlist. Not bad. Oh. Look, Adam's getting turned around on.
Starting point is 00:32:51 He was making fun of Jazz Tronica. Now he's bopping his head like he's up in the club. Up in the club. Oh, what? Is this BroTronica, though? It may be. It may be. But, I mean, with the headphones and there's some nice stuff happening.
Starting point is 00:33:09 good stuff for sure. A nice fat synth-based sound you got going on. Ph. He means pH. Uh, what? Um, jastronica. All up on you. What?
Starting point is 00:33:26 Uh, Spotify playlist. What's the bass player for, uh, the yellow jackets? That reminds me. Sounds like high-fi, lo-fi. Yeah. I feel like studying. I feel like studying with that little cartoon dude. Oh.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Oh. Uh. Flying 88s. It's not bad, though. Yeah. So Jazz Tronica, I don't know, man. I'm just saying, that might be... This is...
Starting point is 00:34:08 Is this jazz of 2021? It's something. It's something. This is what Spotify's serving, man. Are you eating it? They're serving it up. You eating it? Tasting it.
Starting point is 00:34:17 He's tasting it. So there you go. Oh, there's one more playlist. I didn't put one. one on there, but it comes up. We kind of hear that fest. This might be good for a little bit of studying music there. Prague Jazz.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Now we're going to stay away from that one. I don't know. There was one called State of Jazz. And it drifted away now. And that's one thing that I learned today is that these things are dynamic. So I don't know if you look at that as a good thing or a bad thing, but like what it presents to you. So in terms of like if you want to come back and hear something again, you could get lost a little bit on Spotify. That's something I learned here.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I mean, that's Spotify in a nutshell, though, isn't it? Yeah. I don't know about you. We've talked about this before, but like I'll never forget buying like, you know, a Grant Green CD. And that's all I could afford because I was 16 and didn't have a lot of money. And it would just live in my car for a month before I got anything else. Right. And it just was on repeat.
Starting point is 00:35:21 and I learned that entire thing so well and I just don't know how that happens in this era you know? Right. I don't know if it could happen. Right. Oh no. Okay, so here we go. State of Jazz. That's the first one I talked about. That was, oh no, this is another one, but it also has Gary Barts. So maybe we'll like this one. We need to check. We got time to check it a little bit. I just think like we're feeling Gary Barts today. Yeah, maybe this is why I jumped up on on me because it sensed that we were enjoying that. So this is called State of Jazz. This actually has 479,000. They're listening to us. You know that, right?
Starting point is 00:35:53 619 followers. And you know what? Am I becoming like a little bit of a follower whore a little bit here? A little bit. Well, but I just, but I want to know, does that mean something? Does that mean higher quality?
Starting point is 00:36:03 Does that mean more popular? Does that mean lower quality? What does that mean, Adam? Is there some kind of jazz Taylor Swift channel with like 3 million followers? No, that's what this is. I mean, 479,000 is the jazz equivalent of Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 00:36:17 All right. Well, let's hear it. Let's hear what all that people are listening to. Well, this is the thing. Much as the all-new jazz started with Gary Bard's, so does this. I think you might remember this track. Well, this makes you feel good about humanity now. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I mean, I'll listen to this again. If you have to. And you know what? You know what's great about this? This sounds like 2021. Freaking earthy. You know what I mean? Like this is...
Starting point is 00:36:53 Or 1976. Yeah. It's awesome. But it sounds like maybe even the emotions of the world of today, you know? I don't know. I think we found a winner. And... I'm telling you what?
Starting point is 00:37:11 Huh. So thoughtful. I want to listen to more Gary Bartz. You know what I'm saying? See if I'd get some more information on this. Jazz is dead. That's the name of it. It's like volume three, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:37:31 Someone was saying? Oh, really? Release March 2nd. This is new music, my friend. Adrian Young and Ali Shahi Muhammad Trio. All right. So. Adam, what do we learn today?
Starting point is 00:37:52 Well, we learned a few things, first of all. Break it down, break it down. So breaking it down here. We learned, first of all, our buddy Jeff clap can really groove on the frigging brushes, right? Learned that North Carolina has a nice feel. That's right. There might be something called NC Jazz. We learned that Gary Bartz is bad mofo.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Yeah, we knew that. We were reaffirmed that, perhaps, we could say. I think so. You know. Yeah. We learned that John Patatucci is a. subtle genius. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:21 And we learn that we don't like listening to standards when we're listening to new stuff. I think that's the takeaway. Every standard we listen to, we were like, man. But maybe that, again, maybe that's because of what we heard right before it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. As we're listening to new music, checking out someone playing a standard, even someone as good as John Patatucci or Chad LB, we weren't feeling it as much, even though we
Starting point is 00:38:45 like those players. Yeah. But perhaps we've also learned to, you know, maybe a little bit of silver lining that Spotify, although we hadn't been using it as a discovery tool, at least maybe as a rediscovery tool. I mean, I didn't discover Gary Barrett's, but when I saw his name at the top of the list Spaded Jazz, I'm like, oh, snap,
Starting point is 00:39:04 does he have something coming that's just out? And so from that sense, it's a good thing. You know, it's a nice thing. Now, is it always going to have at the top of this something as great as this and Gary Barrett's? Maybe not. But I will be checking in on that. This is really good, though. So we'll keep a, in the link here, folks, in the podcast, you can check out this playlist. But go check out these other playlist for some discovery. And also, let us know what you're listening to.
Starting point is 00:39:29 That's right. As I said in the top here, I use my friends mostly who have better taste in music than me to get new music ideas. And I'm always rewarded by listening to what they listen to. Yeah. And I would say, yeah, the Gary Bards. Can I make a request to, by the way? Please. out on the fry bush. We got to do that.
Starting point is 00:39:47 We got to do that. I was just about to say those are the two winners and a lot of other good stuff. Shout to Stefano de Batista. For sure. And Chad, L.B. and Patutucci, of course, Vinny, and even Manas, wherever they are from. And Manus. And Manus. Vacuum lessons. That was fun. Okay, we got a couple of things.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Tomorrow, we're projecting ourselves a little into the future. Friday, the 12th. Yeah. I'm going to be doing shelter in place. Number 52. That's the year anniversary. This is one year. Ridiculous. I remember the first one was in your living room. It was live from the living room.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Week number two was we moved. I remember doing the sound check to that. I remember that vividly. That was a strange one. That was a strange one. Wow. So yeah, so we want to invite everybody. We're going to be celebrating and looking forward to the light at the end of the tunnel,
Starting point is 00:40:35 all that good stuff. So that's 8 p.m. Eastern on right here on the Open Studio YouTube channel. The Spotify playlist is here as we talked about. Leave us a rating review. you're enjoying this podcast. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Why not?
Starting point is 00:40:47 That doesn't hurt. Yeah. So we're going to go out on this awesome track with Jeff Clap. Where did it go? Where does, you know what? How does that always happen to me? Come on, Peter. We're going to find it.
Starting point is 00:41:03 We're going to find it. That's why the other playlist are there. And look, if you do have a playlist that you enjoy, let us know. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because these aren't the only ones. These are just the ones that came up for us. so this is
Starting point is 00:41:17 you're never going to trust this to me again that's another thing that you learned right there is that a new release by someone no trying to get back to the but you know what's really interesting they are changing up the like the playlist change the playlist changed even while we were doing this so how do you know that until you learn that i'm really regretting requesting that we go out on this is charlie hunter
Starting point is 00:41:41 no this is not charlie hunter this is What's the dude's name? Sam? Sam Fryebusch. There it goes. You want to hear the same check? Or something else. Whatever. Whatever. Check this out. This might be good. Spanish joint. Let's check that out. Oh, yeah. There you go. Okay. Hold on just a second here. So my name is Peter Martin. This is Adam Manish. You've been listening to the You'll hear it. We never say that. What we're saying that today?
Starting point is 00:42:05 What are you doing, bro? This is Spanish joint. Sam Frybush, Jeff Clap. Charlie Hunter. Until next time. You'll hear it.

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