You'll Hear It: Full Album Deep Dives with Jazz Musicians - I Hate Jazz

Episode Date: August 29, 2019

Peter and Adam give an update on the reasons why people might hate jazz.7 More Reasons People Hate JazzOver-stimulationNo styleSmooth jazzNo vocalsAnnoying prodigiesJudgy YouTube explainer videosYou'll Hear ItLike those You'll Hear It shirts Peter shows off on the podcast? Want some YHI swag of your own? Take a visit to our store! Just go to https://teespring.com/stores/open-studioLet us know what you think by leaving a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review, or head over to our YouTube channel and leave a comment for this episode.Interested in more jazz advice? Go here to browse our catalog of jazz lessons and courses available for purchase.Follow us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram at:https://www.facebook.com/heyopenstudiohttps://twitter.com/heyopenstudiohttps://www.instagram.com/heyopenstudio See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Hey, Pete, hey, on a scale of 251, how much do you hate jazz? See, 2 plus 5 plus 1, that's 8. I'm Adam Manus. And I'm Peter Martin. And you're listening to the You'll Hear'd podcast. Daily Jazz advice coming at you. Coming at you today. Brought to you by Open Studio.

Go to Open StudioJazz.com to check out all of our jazz courses. Yes. I'm not sure this is an appropriate sponsor for today's episode. You're already nervous about this. It's going to be okay. You didn't want to do this. I pulled you back into this. You've done a similar episode in the early days.

That was a long time ago. It's not available. Well, it is available to premium members. It is available to premium members. It's way back in the day. I think it might be on the YouTube's. But we did do, and did you know that's one of our most popular. Yeah, I know.

Seven reasons people hate jazz. And you know what we just found out from our producer, Andrew. Yep. Is the reason, the way that people are finding this is they're going to YouTube and searching, I hate jazz. What kind of person does that? Well, we're finding out in the comments for sure. So we thought we kind of, I mean, is this, are we trying to circumvent this?

We're trying to, like... I think we're hitting it right on because we named this I hate jazz. Are we trying to evangelize here? But we don't hate jazz, do we? No, that's what I'm saying. We're like... We're just playing around. We're here to spread the word.

Yeah. But these are, there is, as always, here at the podcast, that you'll hear a podcast. There's a practical reason and a method to our, there's a method man at our madness. And that is that these, you know, for those of you that we're preaching to the choir, not about hating jazz, but about loving jazz, daily jazz advice, all things jazz, jazz, you'll hear it nation. But these are things that people might, like if you say, hey, hey, I listen to this great podcast with these really cool guys, Adam and Peters, especially cool. No one's going to say that. But if you say that, then they're like, oh, why?

And then some of their friends like, oh, I hate jazz. And these are going to be kind of some of the reasons they hear. So we might even give you some reasons to refute these, right? So we're taking a positive. No, we're taking a negative. Yep, yep. Well, no, we're taking a positive, turn into a negative, but then we're flipping it back into a positive, right? Yep, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Good. So, should we get started?

Right away, what's number one? Jazz causes over-stimulation and nausea. I mean, I feel like I'm going to throw up a little bit right now, to be honest, just talking about it. Talking about hating jazz, that's why you're going to throw up. Yeah. Okay, so a lot of people think it's like a sensory, what's the opposite of a sensory deprivation? Overload. Yeah, overload. Yeah. Too much stimulation. Throwing up. Sick. Worst case scenario. I mean, in their defense, there's a lot of notes. There's a lot of things. It can be a lot of notes.

And some players are a little bit too duly noted, we would say. You know, very noteworthy performances, we might say. Okay, sorry, I got more. I got more. No, I think it's a good point, though. This is what you hear a lot. People just assume the jazz is just like, like this.

A lot of the comments underneath this video are going to be talking about people playing four different songs, you know, on the bandstand. But really, it's like anything else. I think people... It's like, if all you had was bad tacos. Yeah. Right? Then you wouldn't like tacos.

Yeah. Is there such a thing as a bad taco? Maybe not. But you know what I'm saying? Like, when you have a good taco, you're going to love tacos. And then there's different kinds of good tacos and different appropriate. You know, there's like a taco with a whole bunch of things happening in it. Right.

When it's the middle of the day and you're hung, you know, when it's appropriate. But there's another time when you want a more simple mellow... You just got that barbacoa taco with some onions and some suns. Have you been talking about that for the last 24 hours? Tacos and ice cream joint. Anyway, I think this is an important one, though, the over-stimulation. So maybe if you have a friend who hates jazz, you know, give them kind of blue or some kind of, like, cool album or something. Give him a kick.

Give him a slap upside the head. No, no. Yeah, exactly. So there is jazz that's not overstimulate. And look, it's for like, for me, it's sort of the time of day. There's like, I love, who I just listen to, Eric Dolfie. Oh, yeah. I love the way he plays.

But there's certain times of the day when I'm in chill mode that that that might not be the thing to put on. because it can be a little over-stimulation sometimes. Early morning, late night. Exactly. So you got to get into the flow of it. But it's definitely a thing of people come into a club, and it's like, wha, there's just too much going on. So number two, why people might hate jazz.

Yeah. Not why I hate jazz. No. But I do kind of hate this. Do you hate jazz? I definitely hate jazz. No, I think there's a perception that, especially modern jazz musicians,

might be lacking in some style. Oh. You know what I'm saying? No. Like they don't have their polo shirt game together. No, you know what I mean? Like, there's the jazz musicians down at the brunch. That's funny because when you put this, I thought you meant people hate jazz because they have no style.

I mean, that's also another thing that they don't have any, they can't see the style for what it is. But I mean, jazz musicians for years have been style beacons. For sure. Miles Davis. For sure. Roy Hargrove. For sure. Winston Marsalis.

But bringing his suit game, circa 1984. But if you go to a Midwestern jazz. club on and off night, some local guys, you're going to see some not so stylish. Would you be referring to millennial musicians by any chance? No, not necessarily. But likely? No, I would say this is as equally a Gen X problem as anything else. Okay. For sure. No, present company accepted. Right, so being not only no style, but maybe under style. Yeah. Whereas before it was heavily styled. Yeah. Yeah. There was, you know, it was like, it was like how, you know, bands are. So I think these first two, if we put them together, the equivalent of this would be...

There's like a look. There's like a feel. Yeah, somebody walks out of the club. Oh, my God, that made me nauseous the way that guy was dressed and playing too many notes. Why do we ever go to this jazz club? And further than that, don't try to take me to a jazz club right now. All right, cool. So that's the first two, right? Yep, number three.

Number three. Okay, number three on our reasons, seven more reasons that people hate jazz is that they're thinking of smooth jazz and they're making a subconscious or perhaps unconscious or maybe even a conscious connection to being in an uncomfortable situation in a dental chair. Stuck in an elevator. Stuck in an elevator. Going to an appointment at the dentist office that they don't want to go to, you know. Shout out to our smooth jazz brothers.

Yeah, of course. And nothing of smooth jazz. The good smooth jazz. But yeah, people kind of associated with just hearing music that they don't want to hear that's trying to sue them. I get you. You know what I mean? It's like a negative and a positive.

They're at the DMV. They're waiting for their number to get called. And they can't turn it down. They're on hold with AT&T or something. I was just at the DMV last week. As a matter of fact, no smooth jazz was being played. No music at all.

Thank goodness. It was torturous, though. It was still torturous. Big shout out to state of Missouri. Keep on licensing. Okay. So number four is that there are no vocals. Now, this is just untrue.

Yeah. There's loads of great vocals. No, but people will say that. It's just like, oh, I like vocals. You know, and I mean, can we drop, couple names? A little Billy Holiday. Yeah. A little, a little Ele Fitzgerald. A little Louis Armstrong. Little Joe Williams.

Can I go on? Diane Reeves? Diane Reeves. Diane Reims. What a beautiful voice she has. Not much of a jazz singer, though. Yeah, but I mean, it's just, but people are like, they say stupid stuff, though. I like vocals. I don't like vocals. Seale McClor and Solvant. Come on. Yeah. We've got lots going on. Yep. Okay, that's good. Number five, one, two, three, four.

We're moving along with our hatred. Of seven more reasons people hate jazz. that would be the current crop. Ooh, I see you added one there. The current crop, oh, no, this is not just the current crop. No, this is the ongoing crop. The history of annoying prodigies. I mean, it is a problem.

Now, this is your list. Can I say this publicly? Yeah. Okay. Jacob Collier. Yeah, everybody on this list, I call them annoying prodigies because it's really just jealousy on my mind. I'm hating here because they're so good. Yeah, but Jacob Collier could be a reason that people hate you, but it could also be one of the

and top reasons that millennials love jazz. That's true. It's just jazz. It's got those fresh-faced videos and the amazing perfect pitch and the MC Hammer parachute pants. Parachute pants and he's redefining what harmony and intonation is. It's amazing. That's right.

And annoying. Exactly. Because he's so good, yeah. Now number two on Adam's annoying prodigies and reasons people hate jazz. Went to Marcellus. I mean, how can you be that good at something and then be such a traditionalist? But he's old AF now. I know, but he's... I mean, he is amazing.

Yeah, he was. And he brought a certain annoying confidence at a young age and then a real musicianship and showmanship and the whole thing. Joey Alexander, the ultimate OG annoying prodigy. I mean, he's just too good to be. He's good, and he's really nice, making him doubly annoying. And super sweet. Yeah. And let's move on.

No, and the last one, Mr. Peter Martin here. Okay, I'm not a prodigy. I'm not young. You were a prodig. I am annoying. I am a very, you felt like it was a right choice for this list. Let's move on. Okay.

So that was five. So here's number six. This one I think I added. I'm very proud of this one. Number six reason people hate jazz is judgey YouTube explainer video. Adam Neely. Did you say Adam Neely? Big shout out to Adam.

Adam Neely's, look, for people like us and probably most of our listeners, he's killing the game. He's awesome. But he's also a reason that people both love and hate jazz. It's true. We are notorious know-at-alls. And he is good at being a no-at-all. all. Did you see the, we talked about the Katie Perry one? He just destroyed that argument and did it in such an entertaining way. Shout out to Adam Neely. Yeah. And that one was really kind of had nothing to do with jazz, but he kind of brought in a reason for people who hate jazz because he was annoyingly, like, precise and accurate and like really well delivered, very well researched and everything. Yeah, I remember. So he reminds me of that that argument that he was annoyingly precise and accurate. I remember there was a season of American Idol in which Harry Connick Jr. was one of the judges. Do you remember this?

Yeah, I never saw it. And also, J-Lo was another judge. And one of the contestants was singing Stormy Monday. Uh-huh. Right? And, uh, no, is it Stormy Monday or Stormy Weather? What's the, Herald Warland? What's the Harry.

I think so. Right? Is that, hold on. Yeah. I'm going to look it up real quick. Phil, Phil, Phil, Phil, Phil. Phil, Phil. Uh, speaking of Phil.

Phil, um, Phil Dumphy on Modern Family, big fan. Big shout to Phil Dumphy. Uh, other fills that I know. Okay. Okay. Thank you for filling. So it was stormy weather, Harold Arlen. But they were singing it like they were singing Stormy Monday.

They were singing it like real down home and like a lot of like vocal fireworks happening. Right. And Harry Connick was like, oh, he just blasted them. He totally, he was like, have you heard the original version of the song? Do you realize that this is the same composer that wrote somewhere over the rainbow? Oh, he became Winton. He became very dogmatic. And J-Lo just looked over at him and go, you know too much.

Which is how I think Snobby Jazz YouTube Explaners can come across It's like, you just know too much Exactly. And look, we kind of, you know, we're being a little tongue-in-cheek here. We're being accurate.

We're being very tongue-in-cheek. No, but we're kind of the podcast equivalent of a judgy YouTube Explaner video. We hope to be. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and that brings us to number seven. Seven reasons people might hate jazz.

Oh, I didn't see that one. You'll hear it. Yeah, this podcast. Yeah, a daily podcast about jazz advice. If you don't hate jazz before this, you will now. All right. Well, speaking of it, we're nominated for us. We are.

We're nominated. Man, this is like Thursday. It's a day after hump day. But it's kind of our... Hey, you got it because of the deal. I got it. But, yeah, it's a little bit of a fun day for us. You know, we're having fun here.

But yeah, we are... This is not funny, as are most of our jokes. This is the podcast awards. Now, I kept thinking this was called the potty. It should be. Like the... I think it was a sketch. Yeah, yeah.

On SNL or something. No, no, it was on the office. The dump fees. No, no, that was filled out. The Dundees. The Dundees. The Dundees. This is the Potties.

But no, it's the podcast awards, the people's choice. And this is the real deal, actually. We thought this was some sort of fly-by-night organization. This is the podcast awards. 14th annual. I mean, it doesn't seem any organization that would have us doesn't seem legit, right? But they are. We're on the final nominee slate has just been announced.

So we got nominated, and we are in the category of appropriated numbers. music, but it's called the CoverVille PodSafe music category. I guess that's a sponsor. The hell does that mean? I don't know, but we're up against some stiff competition. Okay. And so we're going to want folks, well, the tricky thing is people can't vote. Not yet, but they're going to be able to vote, right?

We don't know. We hope so. It's legit. Well, no, I didn't. I mean, maybe you can vote. It's just kind of a link now. But if you go to podcastawards.com, you'll see it. But look, some of the people in our category, I'm a little nervous because we got switched

on pop. They're big time. Oh, yeah. They're so... We're so screwed. They're kind of YouTube Explanter videos about pop and classical.

I mean, I hate to plug another podcast on ours, but that's a good podcast. That is a good podcast. It's not daily, though. It is not. Yeah. The Irish and Celtic music podcast,

which you wouldn't think is a heavy hitter. They are heavy hitters in that genre? It is. Yeah, it's a... Irish fans of the Boston Celtics? It absolutely is. While they listen to music.

Coffee talk. I don't know what that is, but that sounds funny. Oh, yeah, with Linda Richmond. Yeah. You'll hear it. One bourbon, one shard, or one beer.

I don't know how they slipped into the music. All these sound better than ours, to be honest. And then I just got to give a big shout out to one that I saw in the category below ours, in religion and spirituality. We have the Anointed Radio Network. We have Beyond. We have Kindling Fire podcast.

And we have the Better Work Bitch podcast. It's right there. In religion and spirituality? No, just Better Work, bitch. But it's in the category of religion and spirituality. Yeah, I got to check that out. That sounds very interesting. Yeah.

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So this was a good one from Johnny Wu, 251 in the UK. The title is Bad Joke. Well, man, five stars. Is it a bird? Is it a train? No, it's a different dynamic duo leading us through the world of jazz with passion, wisdom, and humor.

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This is very informative, five starts. This podcast renews my love for jazz with each listen. Peter and Adam provide great insight and new ways to approach my favorite art form. If you love music, especially jazz, this does not disappoint. You really know how to touch my heart, do do, do stick. That was good. Until tomorrow. You'll hear it.