You'll Hear It: Full Album Deep Dives with Jazz Musicians - Music We Like That's Not Jazz

Episode Date: October 27, 2021

Peter and Adam answer a question on what other genres of music they enjoy, as well as how it informs their jazz playing.Have a question for us? Leave us a SpeakPipe: link.youllhearit.com/speakpipeSupport the pod by spreading the word with the link youllhearit.com Learn more about Open Studio Pro: openstudiojazz.com/proInterested in more music advice? Go here to browse our catalog of jazz lessons and courses available for purchase. And be sure to check out our All Access Pass - every course from Open Studio on every instrument.Let us know what you think by leaving a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review, or head over to our YouTube channel.Follow us on Twitter | Instagram

You ready? Yeah, I'm ready. Well, you ready for this? Yeah. Ah. Uh. Uh. I don't know if you're ready for that.

I'm ready. I don't know if you're ready for that. Born ready. I'm Adamannis. And I'm Peter Martin. And you're listening to the You'll Hear'd podcast. Music advice and inspiration coming at you. Coming at you today, sponsored by Open Studio.

Go to open studio. com for all of your jazz lesson. Yep, yep. Meads today, Peter, we have a speak pipe. You're never going to guess who it's from. Um, No, I won't actually. Because I have no idea.

It's from Zoom from Vancouver. Oh, our friend. Yeah, here's Zoom. Hey, guys, it's Zoom from Vancouver. I'm wondering if you could do an episode about the music that you like that is not jazz. You talk a little bit about classical, soul, hip hop. I'm wondering if you could have an episode focused on those different kinds of music, what you like to listen to, how you got into it, and how it influences your jazz playing, if at all.

Thanks. Peace. Great question. Zoom. By the way, if you want to leave us to speakpipe, go to you'll hear it.com. There's a button right there. How do you spell that? How do you spell that?

Speak pipe? No. Who cares? You'll hear it.com. Y-O-U-L-L-H-E-A-R-T dot com. Go there. Press the button. Record your voicemail.

I just want to make sure people knew because we haven't been getting, we've been getting some speak pipes, but we're looking for more. So I thought maybe some people got confused on the URL. That's all. So it's a great question, though, because, you know, every musician I know doesn't just listen to one kind of genre of music. In fact, some do. Some do, but most of us are multifacety creatures.

Yeah, we're record heads, right? That's right. We love all kinds of different stuff. So definitely we can play some of our favorite music that has nothing to do with jazz today. And I just realized just as a little disclaimer, as they say, it's possible, like we're not big on labels around here. We're not even crazy about the term jazz for reasons that we've spoken several times on. But it's possible like what we heard coming in, which is by one of the. greatest jazz trumpet players of all time. So there might be a little bit of overlap. So we don't

want to get too dogmatic about what's jazz and what's not. Well, first of all, let's just talk about the prep for this episode. Trying to wrangle Peter to pick four tracks is impossible to do. I love music. Sumi. We had 15 tracks on here at one point. What do we have now? We have, we have eight. We have nine, but we're not going to play the R.H. Factor. That was what was. That's what we just heard. We just heard. And I feel funny about saying that it's not jazz anyway. Because I mean, look, that's Roy Hargrove. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So we have everything. It's everything at once. We have seven tracks with a bonus, an eight, but

these are all just things that are on our minds currently. Like, I listen to a totally random in a lot of ways. This is not like a ranking or like these are our favorite non-jest, like this is just stuff that when the question came up, we just kind of threw around. So, oh, what do you think about this? It's been fun. One of my favorite songwriters from the last few years is a young singer-songwriter

named Phoebe Bridgers. I'm sure you've, she's been on Saturday Night Live. She's amazing. She's become very famous. But she's just such a great lyricist She's a funny storyteller, and I've been, because of the time of year, I've been listening to this track from her album last year called Punisher. This is called Halloween. I actually did a trio version of this at the Bistro about this time last year.

Oh, kind of a spooky set? I love this song. She has these, like, you know, if anybody here has ever tried to write lyrics, it's way harder than playing jazz piano. Trying to write good lyrics is so tough. And she just has these little gems, like all good lyricists. She's got her own style and everything. Anyway, this is Halloween from Phoebe Bridgers.

If they walk you, somebody better be dying. Take off the questions I keep asking you That make you live in the past But I can count on you to tell me the truth When you've been drinking and you're wearing a man Queen of the Mope, Phoebe Bridgers. Queen of the Mope. That's beautiful.

I'm adding that to my personal, liked songs. I can count on you to tell me the truth when you've been drinking and wearing a mask. I love that line. Little gems like that pop out in all our songs. Now, granted, a lot of our songs sound very, it's the same song over and over again. Very similar Sonic Landscape.

Yeah, but I'm a sucker. You know what? That's called having a style. I'm a 90s kid, Pete. I am a sucker for this stuff. Stuff didn't move as fast in the 90s. You get stuck in the mode sometimes. I got Nirvana in my blood, man. It's just mopey.

No, I love it. All right. So next up is your first pick. I also love this. I've been listening to this on repeat as well, so I'm glad you picked this. Okay, good. You want me to drive on this one?

You got it. Okay. Uh, it's like the anti-mole. Exactly. Get hyped. I want to welcome you back to life. Woo. Back to the one that can make your next chapter.

Your best chapter. Hallelujah. How can it be? Uh. That you love the most unlovable. Got bass drum? Yeah. That's Kirk Franklin, of course.

Yes. Geez, man. The groove on there is so beautiful and joyous. The whole thing just radiates pure joy. Raising hands up up high. Amen, bro. Love theory from love theory. Dang, that's so good.

And he just gets me, like, his voice when he just, every little thing, like, yeah. Just gets to be so hype. He's his own hype, man. He's hyping himself. I'm not even religious. And I'm feeling it. I know. You don't have to be.

It's great stuff. And very, you know, there's a lot of details in there, too. I know we're not talking about this from a jazz standpoint, but we have to. Like there's, the beauty in that groove is so. There's a lot, exactly, in the groove and in the syncopation, a lot, very detail-oriented, very, you know, there's a lot of restraint in how that groove is laid out, how the different instruments come in and stuff. So I love it. I'm a fan. I'm a fan.

I am true. Check out Kurt Franklin's, this is for everybody, Tiny Desk concert where, like, if you think all this is overly producing. but then you hear them doing it a lot. The groove is just as thick. It's not thicker. It's the greatest Tiny Desk concert in the history of the Tiny Dask concerts. The bass player Matt, I forget his name.

Oh, man. I'm sorry, Matt, I'm forgetting it because you are the greatest bass player. Oh, I know. And the vocalist. I mean, they are so. Yeah, yeah, incredible. Very high quality.

Well, from an incredible beautiful groove, let me ask you a question, Peter. How do you like feel about Earth in your groove? Do you like earthiness in your groove? Yes. Like pulling into, like gravity, like pulling into the Earth, Mother Earth, if you will. Absolutely.

Yes. You know how it's like some eras and some genres just hit at the right time, like psychedelic music in the late 60s, right? So good. It just everything came together with the style of the times. Yeah. Or maybe you might say straight ahead swingers in the late 50s, right? Something about it, just everything from the way things were recorded.

I feel that way about a lot of this African music from the mid-70s. Phala Kuti in particular, I think, hit his stride in the mid-70s. this is from expensive shit. This is water. No good enemy. Check it out. Fun fact. Most guided practice sessions

that I do on Open Studio are written with some kind of 70s Afrobeat music or Afro pop in the background at some point. Oh, it's so great. I mean, and Phelah, it's like, whenever I hear his stuff, it's like Afro beat for sure

because I mean, he's the OG or one of them for sure. He's the king. Yeah. But I always think about like, I mean, and I think all these tracks in a lot of ways

and a lot of the music we talk about it in general, whenever we say music advice and inspiration, is like the greatest recordings and artists, there's a sense of place somehow with what they're doing. And sometimes it's where they're from, but I always think about like, you know, Nigeria and Lagos, like that, this track always just sort of takes me there because it's got all that in it, like big city, African beat,

and like you say in the 70s, like it pulls all that together. Something about all of it. It takes you there. It's just like a great meal. It's like all of a sudden you're transported. But at the same time, being very like I mean this is sort of some of the OG you know world music as where which I've never been a fan of that I'm like all music is world music it's like folk

music all music is folk music in a way but very much um pan African but pan worldwide you know and that's why he would fail with such a phenomenon totally yeah all right next up is your pick uh what we got oh okay so this is a little bit this is not on the on the level historically and just you know transcendently as phala this is what we're listening to nothing has to be as epic as philocutti that's impossible and i don't even really know but check this out this is pokebo and i may jump ahead because this a fun track little poppy thing from the last couple years ago but what caught my ear probably in a coffee shop or something oh no i think my daughter hit me to this she was playing it is yeah keep playing it but then when we get to the middle little keyboard

soul that adam manis is going to like how do you know you will i like a pokey ball that's what i'm saying and we like the piano intro on a on a poppy thing yeah yeah Okay. How do you like your snare drum and your pokey bowl? A little behind the tuna? I like a compression on the bass. You like your ride cymbals very sparse? It ain't easy being sensitive.

I'm not who I said I is. Not what it looks like. Ain't easy being so psycho. You already know about to throw ice at the wall. Just to watch it break. I could get into a ball. myself and maybe you too I act like I don't need you

but I lie I lie I'm a liar and an ugly cryer spitting out my pacifier Gees, you like those bechees backgrounds Listen in a sad song Hoping that you won't be gone Man what a voice

Yeah Words to say each time you walk away It's like I'm going through withdrawal Even got the shakes but I can't blame you at all I'll keep wind it Take it right back

You know I'm still young like that I thought you might be a I mean it's good going up to that But then when it kind of gets there The whole thing Everything about it, I'm down So this is Radiant Children Radiant Children

The album is Pokey Bowl The title is Pokey Bowl And as far as I can tell it It has nothing to do with a Pokey Bowl I mean it's fresh Like a Pokey Bowl It's fresh and dope like a great pokey bowl.

I'm not remember my daughter did play it for me and I was like digging, I'm like we're in the car I was like this is like, she's like, oh, you got to the part where I thought you'd like it. She's like to the solo and she's like, I knew you'd like that. It's great that your children, while they don't probably listen to

a lot of the same music you listen to, they recognize what dad's going to like. Exactly. That's good stuff. Exactly. So this dad likes this next track. Who's got two thumbs? It likes this next track.

I just realized this guy. I'm talking a lot about the 90s. 90s was big for me, Peter. It was your coming of age. It really was. Yeah. So this is organized confusion with a K,

one of my favorite hip-hop groups from the late 80s, early 90s. This is from the low-down dirty shame original snage. I remember that? I do.

That was Keenan, Ivory Wayne's big coming out solo, separate from the Wayne Brothers movie party, right? This is Organized Confusion featuring Q-Tip. Oh, Q-Tip.

Let's organize. Listen to this beat, man. Yeah. You know? That's all you got to know. Remember that? Is that? Remember that?

Yeah. Yeah. The compression, that's a compression at the master level on the whole tracks. Organized confusion. If you can find their records, good luck, but it's so much fun. You might be able to find this on VHS, though, at least. Oh, you definitely find out on VAT. Load out dirty shape.

On a mixtape. Come on. All right, Peter, you have another one up. This is also one that I could have picked because I've been listening to this record. I've been listening to another track, but go ahead and... So, okay, so this is just on my mind because I was standing at a hotel in Boston over the weekend that had a turntable in it. Oh, I can name the hotel, right?

It's called, this is not sponsored by them, but we love them. Big shout out to the Verb Hotel in Fenway. But they have turntables in every room, and in the lobby, there's just a whole bunch of dope records, mostly kind of old-school rock stuff, but all different kind of things, including this gem of a record

with Roberta Flack and Donnie Hathaway. So I'm listening to this on vinyl, hanging out, having a good time, remembering how much I love this record. Asking yourself a question, maybe? Yes, exactly. Where is the love? Where is the love?

Oh man, Donnie Hathaway's voice And check out on the drums This has got to be like Bernard Purdy or something The precision on the highest I don't even want to get in the way What a chorus All right, I love this track Can I play you the greatest moment of this?

This is Bernard Purdy I'm so proud of myself Very good people Can I play you the best moment of this record though? Yes The very best moment It's underrated You've got a friend

You know this track? James Taylor tune Oh man, the roads The road separate The ping, the stereo ping Yeah There's a moment in this song, though, that just gives me chills still to this day. Yeah.

I'm going to skip ahead. And soon be there to brighten up even your darkest night. Here's the chorus. Here's the chorus. You just called out my name. And you know, wherever I am. I like that. I like that.

But there's more. There's more. Hold on. Uh. People can be so cold. He's getting busy. The Rhodes playing too, man. St.

Louis' own. Donnie has to. Yeah. That's a small roads on here, right? I would assume so. I know Roberta's playing a lot of, I mean, she's playing a piano on the... You just call.

All right. Check this act. You know what I'm talking about? Exactly. Yeah. Here it is. Stevie Wonder called. He wants his dope-ass bass line back.

Oh, my God. Let's do that one more time. See you again. He calls it too. Oh, come on. That might have been Roberta that said that, actually. Oh, my gosh. Look out.

Look out. And then that happens. Oh, boy. That's so great. All right. This whole record, that for all we know. And I think that that's Roberta playing piano and Donnie sing. I mean, that is just, can we just hear the first phrase of that?

I'm sorry. For all we know. For all we know? Yeah. We might as well just listen to this whole record. Well, we could do worse. This is turned into a sesh. This is a sash.

We missed the sash. Fun fact. One of the tunes on this record was co-written by Phil Specter, International Murderer. There's a lot of weird stuff For all we know For all we know Okay here it is

I'm such a fan of Roberta's piano playing I'm just For a whole It never meet again All right that's enough I mean I mean Just a touch It's beautiful

Oh so great The whole record If you don't know This is a great record This is on On you can get it on CD or vinyl Or on Spotify or Apple music for It's called the Adana

Adani Hathaway collection It's got like purple font on there and him in a white hat and it's every track is a banger. Oh no, but you gotta go to the original record. Roberta Flack and Donnie Hathaway. But the collection though is like the greatest greatest hits album

of all the time. It's incredible. It's incredible. I'm not like always on board for greatest hits but that one is really killing. Well, and that you've got a friend is so great and maybe I don't know for a while I was listening to and it seemed like people were talking more about the live at the bitter end. Yeah, it's good one too. Which is great.

Good one too. And I mean, he's going. But this version, I don't know, it's a classic one. Peter, I know, I haven't mentioned this in a while, but do you like the 90s? Dude, you are all up in the 90s. You know what it gets to? I've got a classic 90s coming. Actually, I might have the most classic 90s coming soon, though, so I can't say anything.

You might. You know what it is, man? It's when it's fall, I get nostalgic, right? In fall, I think of the beginning of school, and I get really nostalgic. This is from late 90s. This is one of my favorite bands of all time. Stereo Lab, they're a French-English outfit. We're making bangers back in the 9.

90s, this is from their album Dots and Loops. I've been listening to this all week. This is the flower called Nowhere. Well, Electropop for you. I just love, I've always loved their chord changes. Every tune is super, like, has this super melancholy. Oh, this part. Super melancholy chord changes.

Big surprise. Brad Meldow has covered them a few times. I know. It wouldn't seem like it would be his jam, but totally appropriate. Yeah, absolutely. So that was number seven. So we got a bonus, right? What's up with this bonus?

Okay, bonus. I mean, this is, so we talk about the nine, I mean, although this is... Do we talk about the 90s? Is this possibly the late 80s? I'm going to have to do some... No, it's got to be 90s. No, this is in the 90s.

Oh, I just gave it right. But very early. This is 991. This is Michael Jackson, MJ. I don't know if he's been canceled or not, but I still love his music. This song hasn't been canceled. This song is amazing. Yeah, this one's great.

This is Remember the Time. Thanks, everybody. We're going out on this. Until next time. Oh, you'll hear it.