You'll Hear It: Full Album Deep Dives with Jazz Musicians - Stump Tha Chump

Episode Date: June 29, 2023

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Yo. Who to chump? You to chump. No, you to chump. No. Not today, chump. We'll see. Who's going to stump the chump?

You stumped. And you chumped. I'm not good at that talking smack. I'm Adamannis. And I'm Peter Martin. And you're listening to the You'll Hear podcast. And I am not a chump. Well, we'll see.

I may be a chump. Peter, it's really not of my nature to be much of a smack talker at all. I know. I'm not good. We started like in prison guys from Bronx and. prison is what we were kind of trying to sound like whenever I go into that mode around Heather McCorkle my better half she just like ruthlessly teases me about how so like it's how soft you sound yeah it's just not in my nature that's just not how it is but today we're playing a game yes

playing a little listing game this is a fun game you can play with any of your friends highly recommend it's called down beats blindfold test a little bit have you ever looked at one of those blindfold tests I know where they get like none of them right I feel like that's that's not fair it's not fair yeah it's a really hard thing to do actually actually is to do a blindfold test, especially if sometimes I feel like the journalists might not know the musicians. Yeah, let's stump those chumps and see what happens. Yeah, like, it's tough.

So, but the rules for this stump the chump are that we have to pick pianists that we know the other person knows. Like we, like, it not only knows, like is pretty, very familiar with. They're familiar with. And but we still have to try to stump them in that, do you know that this is that pianist? Right. And we had a little bit of controversy already with the parameters of this so-called game. Yeah.

Because you played a little bit of one of the ones you were going to do right before we started. Yeah. And I immediately blurted out who it was. And you were like, oh. And then I said, but still use that one because I've never heard that track before. And you're like, now I'm not going to do it. Yeah. I knew exactly who it was.

Yeah, but why would we show them that? Because now it's about stumping the chump. If I know that you know it, we should have waited until we were camera. It doesn't matter. I didn't know it. I was just going to reenock that moment. That's not what our listeners deserve Peter. Okay, so this is very authentic.

Way more authentic than I was thinking. Yeah. So we've got three each, right? Yeah. And we're going to, of course, we have not discussed this. And outside of that track, I haven't heard anything. You haven't heard any of these. But as you say, these are all pianists that, my three are ones that I know you know these pianists.

Ones that you've studied. You've talked about. Likewise. And that you like. So there's a little hint for you. Let's row chambo to see who goes first. Ready? Okay.

Ready? Rock paper scissors shoot. Ready? Okay. Rock paper, scissors, shoot. Rock paper, scissors, paper, rock paper scissors,

rock, rock paper scissors, shoot, rock paper scissors, paper, paper, okay, okay, good. All right, wait, isn't it, no, I get to pick who goes first. Sure, if you want to go last, you can go. I'll go first.

All right, we're going to start out with a, well, I don't know if I'd say this is easy, but we're going to start out with one. Are you ready? Yes. Adam, producer Caleb, are you ready? Yes. Yeah, he said yes.

Stump the chump. Wait, that's the wrong one. You'll hear it. I'm being stumped as a chump right now. So this Peter's computer is stumping him as we speak. Here we go. You okay? Yeah.

It's an interesting psychology because I'm like, who would Peter pick for me? I want to say Brad Meld, though. You are correct, sir. Yeah, that was very good. Good. Good, yeah. This is Brad plays, the Beatles's golden slumbers. But it was something that I thought you might not have heard because it's relatively recent from his new recording.

I've not heard it. Yeah, it's really good, the whole thing. All right, you ready for yours? Yes. Yes, I can't call you chump yet because you haven't been stumped, but I'm still a possible. Play a little bit more of that new Brad record, actually, for the people before we move on. I know, we're just like Brad Bellag. Yeah, I know, and just stop.

But couldn't that have been somebody imitating Brad? It sounds beautiful, by the way. What's that? It could have been somebody imitating Brad, but then that would have been part of our parameters. It would have been, yeah. I definitely would have had it by this point on that chord just from the touch. It's a beautiful sound. It's a beautiful sound.

Yeah. What a great player. All right. Your turn. You ready? Yes. See, you're going modern. I'm going, well, some of this is kind of modern.

You ready? Yeah. Here we go. Okay. Are we going to have to edit this part out? Nope. We are not. This is very early in a player you love's career.

Can I phone a friend? It's not fair because we just have this big locked-hand melody. He's just wait until the solo. Let's say the game doesn't start until you hear the solo. Okay. Falling a friend. Okay. Yeah.

Hey. Can you help me out with this here? Sounds like someone. that you've talked a lot about. Okay, let me concentrate here. Witton Kelly. Yes. Okay.

I knew by the solo you would get it. That was so, okay, I'd never heard this. What is this? 1951. What? I know, he must have been, I don't know when Witten Kelly was born. I'm a shame that it took me that long,

but that was the... He was born in 1931, so he was 20 years old when he recorded this. Wow. This is an album called Piano Interpretations. It's a blue note record from 1951. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Oscar Petterford and...

That's what I said. Oscar Petterford. Peterson. I meant Petterford. You meant Petterford. And Lee Abrams. And it's actually, I was just flipping through this while we were setting this up. It sounds killing, man.

I'm going to go listen to this today. I heard that record like probably at least 20 years ago. I don't remember it. Wow. What a faux pie. I said Oscar Peterson. I might go check this out and do a video on this record because like a 20-year-old Wyton Kelly.

And you could hear like his influence in the beginning sounds like some other folks. Yeah. But by the time you get to that solo, his language is there. Yeah. It's cool, right? Good stuff. Good stuff.

Okay. You ready? Yeah. The chump is about to try to... I feel like this is like when you play a horse. You ever play a horse? Well, neither one of us have stumps. I'm an H.

I don't want to be a ho. No, no. You are officially not stumped. I feel like... Oh, that's right. I got it. Yeah, we get, you know, if I get it eventually, it's not like you don't get, no guesses. Okay.

Ready? Yeah. Yes. Okay. I think I've seen this video before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's... From the 70s?

It's from 1998, 1996. 1996? Pombard, yeah. Oh, yeah. I have seen this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Solo piano performance, of course, giant steps.

Yeah. I'm thinking that I would have probably... That was a tough one. No, no, no, that's fair. That's fair. I was thinking if I wasn't watching this and didn't know what it was, I think I would have said McCoy,

but it would have been a similar amount of time. I might have said chick for... There was some chick types of stuff. Yeah. That's the thing is all those guys at that age in the 90s, 80s and 90s, it's harder to get their, I don't know, for me, it's harder to get their personalities. Except for Herbie.

I don't know why I said Herbie first. I'm not sure. There was something about one of the lines where I was like, Herbie? Yeah. Well, you're kind of an age like me. I'm just saying. You got it. Okay.

Well, we're, no one's totally stumped yet, but we're not doing great. Okay. This is someone I know that you know well. Is this the third one? This is our second. My second. Okay. Because you went first.

This is, I'll give you the artist the record is from. No, I'm not even going to do that. You're going to get it. All right. I'm going to skip ahead to the piano solo. That's Sonny Rollins, I think. No. No. It's not. Is that Stan Gaffes? It's a stand guess. Let's go. Let's back it back up to the solo.

That was the whole solo? He's not, he's not, he was quite young on this and not heavily featured. There's some clues. I can hear this. Is that McCoy? Nope. Oh, God. On that level. Herbie?

Nope. Oh, my God. Caleb, Caleb, edit this out. There's only one more. Chickoria. Oh my God. Why did I... Caleb, please edit all this out.

Oh, my God. It's 1968. What the world needs now, Stan Gets plays Bert Backrack and Hal David. I mean, now, you know what's so silly about this? I totally... I mean, it's chick. Of course it's chick.

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Confirmation bias. Wait, hold on. Hold on. This is in times like these. Hold on. I might have just fucked this up. Okay.

That is chick. Chick plays half and Herbie plays half. Really? Obviously, chick, obviously. I love how like I've, I got Stad Gats before I got. Stad Gats, well, I just say study wrong. I mean, come on. Stan Gats is, you hear of four notes.

I feel like I've studied Chickoria, Herbie Hennock, and McCoy, a little closer than Stan Gets. All right, one more each. One more each. Come on, you got a flight to catch. Okay, this is, this is now, I was going to say this. Stump the chumps. This, I thought would have been one of the, harder ones.

But, have we already done this person? No. You might have heard another clue would be to check out the left hand. It's Red Garland. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's so good. Yeah, so the left-hand clue is just the...

Yeah. But also that language is so... It's almost... I mean, there's a Winton-Kelly-esqueness to it for sure. But that left hand is the dead giveaway. Oh, that's so good, man. Very good. Ooh.

Okay, your last one? You ready for this? I got to read myself. If you get this, you might get this actually. It should be the one that I got earlier. Why are still salty about that? All right. Because I never heard that.

So I was kind of proud of myself. But that's okay. Keep Jared. No. No, this person as well. Shall we skip ahead to the solo a little bit? Yeah. For how young this person is.

This is amazing. I like it. Me like it. So good. Likely influenced by it on that big time. Keep Jared and stuff. That's all. Nothing?

No. You're giving up. officially? I'm giving up. I'm the child. This is a 24-year-old Kenny Kirkland in 1979 with Miroslav on an ECM record, first meeting. Yeah, very... I never heard this, but it... But now that you can hear it, right? Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Look at how much it hurts him. It hurts him physically. This one actually, I'm sorry, I haven't heard this recording. I'm excited, though. But thinking about it, like, that that's very hard to so obviously Herbie

I would have said Herbie but you were like a very young and I was like well this is not a very young Herbie I could tell and I actually was even thinking Miroslav I was like that sounds like again why would I be able to but I was like Kenny Kirkland wasn't even on my radar

so damn it should have been we stumped him stumped him a big jump a big jump well this is fun we might not be able to use that last one because it is an ECM record so we can't so we got to redo this episode

we'll see how it goes on YouTube If you're just now tuning in and there was just a load of silence, it's because we played an ECM record. That's right. Until next time. You'll hear it.