You'll Hear It: Full Album Deep Dives with Jazz Musicians - What You Should Start Doing TODAY as an Improvisor
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Hey Adam.
Yeah.
Check this out.
Adam Manus.
And I'm Peter Martin.
And you're listening to the You'll Hear podcast.
Music advice and inspiration coming at you.
A little inspiration.
Thanks for let me have that one, boss.
That was great.
That's how we do it.
You gave me the High Ridge Shuffle.
I mean, that's, you know.
You know what the funny thing about the High Ridge Shuffle is.
It's not known as that in High Ridge, is it?
It's neither known as that in High Ridge, nor is it a shuffle.
No, it's not.
Neither.
But it's fun.
But I thought it was topical.
That was just all creative improvisation.
Something I'd call it creative genius, but we'll let others say that.
I thought that would be topical today that we just, we're always kind of improvising and creating.
But what are we talking about today?
Today we're talking about what you should start doing today as an improviser.
If you're not doing these things already, these are things that you can really implement tonight when you go to play.
Why even wait until tonight?
Or maybe it's 6 p.m. right now.
Yeah, I don't know.
But if it's 3 a.m. the release time of this podcast, you can be doing it before the sunrise.
That's true.
you're in Europe, maybe you're in the middle of your morning.
That's right.
But we are not a Eurocentric podcast, so you could be anywhere in the world.
If you're in Asia.
It's a odd way to call it.
It's possible.
Yep.
No, but these are things that we can sort of just take as, first of all, the things we'll talk about, I think, are the responsibility of any improvisers.
These are like top level things.
These aren't like what scale goes over what chords, Mr. Peter Martin, or how can I work on my ear training to be able to,
play this kind of chord and then just
yeah
foe fall fall fall
yeah no what these are let's be honest
these are ways that we can be superior to classical
musicians hey by improvising
no but we jest
um you know these are what I like to think of this
Peter is like these are like swing thoughts right
like if you're playing golf or you're playing tennis
oftentimes having one and we've talked about this before
on the podcast I mean hell we've talked about everything before
on the podcast we're on like 800 episodes of this stuff
But a swing thought is in tennis or golf is something that there's so much that could go wrong in your tennis swing, right?
In your back swing and your in your follow through that oftentimes just having one thought about the swing helps the stroke to land.
Right.
And these could be the things as you're improvising.
One simple thought that you can implement as you're soloing, as you're improvising that can really just help focus your solo so that you're not thinking about, okay, build it like architecture.
Okay, make sure to listen.
Okay, now I have to try to put some hip stuff in there.
What is it?
What's one thing that we can do?
One swing thought that we can apply to this solo that will kind of bring it all together.
Yeah, no, that's fantastic.
And I think that our emphasis on today, we're not trying to put pressure on you by saying doing it today.
But we are trying to frame this in a way that, you know, being an improviser, it's as much of a kind of mental state.
framework that we put on as musicians, not necessarily 24 hours. Well, eventually just, yeah,
but it becomes kind of part of who you are. But as we're developing as an improviser, it's
important to think about it every day. It's not like, okay, on Friday, I'm going to practice
my improv. On Thursday, I'm going to practice my scales. On Wednesday, I'm going to practice,
you know, preparing to prepare. No, this is what we need to be doing every day. And the beauty of
it is there's no preparation or homework necessary to start doing these things. You know,
You know, like this is very much come as you are.
There's no special clothing required.
There's no entrance exam or anything.
And this is like, I think the easiest way to understand this is what do you have to say today?
Not what do you hope that you're going to become?
Like, who are you today?
You know, and as we get older, this becomes very much easier just to kind of wrap your head around in a calm way as a person.
when you're sort of comfortable with who you are.
So it's taking that same mentality to your music.
Now, you might not be there yet in terms of like,
I'm not at the Promise Land.
I'm not at who I want to be.
I hate my playing.
You might even be,
we've all been there, you know.
But that's, you know, in terms of telling your story,
there's a certain level of acceptance that you have to have
and start practicing.
And I think that's the most important thing
that you can do as an improviser today
is to give yourself the space and the credit
and the ability and the framework to be a full-on improviser of who you are today,
to not wait for tomorrow, not to wait until next week,
or once I get this together, then I'll work on that,
or then I'll really be able to solo, then I won't do something planned.
No, go for it today.
That's the mentality of an improviser, you know.
We're not going into improvised brain surgery.
That's not a good idea.
We can't improvise that because people die.
This is about...
I've had brain surgeons are great improvisers, though.
No, that's kind of a different...
No, no.
I don't want mine to be.
Well, what if something goes wrong?
I would want mine to be.
Yeah.
So what I thought we would do here, Peter, is we have these ideas we could talk about.
But I thought we could, sometimes a great way for me to frame these is as a question.
So I have some questions here that I think we can ask ourselves.
You could posit to ourselves.
Yeah.
Like that big word.
We could posit to ourselves as we're about to solo and think of this as your, quote, unquote, swing thought.
Okay.
So when you start to play a solo, what happens?
if you ask yourself, can I play only what I hear?
Right.
That's my goal for this solo.
Can I just play only what I hear?
We're going to ignore the temptation to run our fingers over our hands.
Can we play just what's in our head?
So this is so important because what you hear is the most authentic music you're going to make.
Right.
It's what is inside of you.
It's what you've been listening to.
it's how you're feeling it's all of these things combined it's what's ideally it's what's happening
in the room if you're really paying attention but this question can really change the game as far as
I love it I love it I love it and I think I want to caution everybody sometimes we think oh what I hear like
you have to accept that so that's what I was talking about yeah like that has to be just whatever you
hear and if that's me do be dee bob that's what you hear no problem like and I used to get
caught up in this one because I was like I have to be an innovative improviser today
I have to innovate something.
No, you don't.
No, you don't.
You just have to commit to playing what you hear.
I think there will be a level of innovation at different times.
At different levels, we don't all need to be the most creative, innovative improvisers, and certainly not every day.
But, I mean, when you commit to hearing something, it just means that if you're regurgitating something, it's what you're hearing.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
The second question you might ask yourself, right?
can I make the drummer or the bassist or the bartender smile during this solo?
That could be your goal for the solo.
Is that two different things?
It's two different things, but it could be the same thing.
But can you connect with someone?
Right.
I was thinking that in a human level.
Yeah, in a human.
Well, we're talking about drummer's bassist and bartenders.
So not.
Yeah, kind of human.
No, no, no.
Oh.
Big shout out to CMB right here.
No, but you know what I mean?
It's like where you're just like you would if they were, you know, if you were,
jawing with them on the street.
You're communicating. You're communicating through improvisation.
You're BSing with them. You're having a good
time. Can I do that? Or can I make them
make them cry? Can you make the drummer cry? I can do that.
Oh, you've made media drummer cry.
I've made many a drummer cry with my playing before.
No, but this connection, I think, is the key. I do this all the time.
If I'm feeling disconnected from the music, I'll try to connect with the humans
that are there with me. Right, right. So you don't do your robotic thing to
connect with human noise?
Definitely avoid the robot.
Avoid the robot voice.
Are you connecting with somebody on your phone right now?
I am connecting with the entire world.
Via text message?
All right, cool.
So the next question we have, can I stay in the moment the entire solo?
It's a tough one.
That's a tough one.
That takes a lot of work.
Well, so this is a great one to start doing today because I would throw out there,
Adam Manus, that everybody can do this today.
Yeah.
Now, the length of the solo is going to vary.
Like so it's, you know, just like meditation in terms of like how do you become present and then remain present.
Obviously somebody who has advanced skills in meditation and being able to control their mind in that way can stay in that moment for longer.
But like anything, we're going to start small here.
So don't try to play, you know, an extended solo on Lush Life, solo piano and say that's what you have to stay in the moment.
But maybe one chorus of blues.
Everybody can do that today and stay in the moment.
Stay in the moment.
This is getting harder with the way the world.
is like in the amount of just um look at me I'm checking my phone you know what I mean
we're hyped up on spin drift I'm all jacked up on espresso and spin drift you know we've
gone around the bend when we're pouring the spin drift into the espresso or vice versa
not good yeah the next question we might ask ourselves can I integrate something new
into this solo so one of the advantages we have is improvises we can do whatever the hell we
want to do the hence the name improvisation exactly right so sometimes I do think like
okay, I am bored
with my entire playing and everything
I know. Can I do something I've never
ever done before
with this solo? Can I do something
I typically would never do? Can I
make that work? That challenge can actually
change the entire course of the night.
Yeah, and it's not...
And again, this is a great one to do when you're practicing,
too kind of practicing, performing that part of your
routine. It's not
about
just doing something
that is
you know just crazy
for the sake of doing it
a novelty kind of thing
it has to be combined
with playing what you hear still
but this is getting away
from maybe the just
playing it safe and everything
like commit
so basically you have to hear
something new
so that you can play something new
but if you're open to it
it will come
it might be small
it might be large
might be somewhere in between
well but you can
you can kind of ask yourself
like can I hear something new here
can I hear something new over this tune
what am I hearing
that's new?
And I've seen you do this on game.
It's super awkward because it's like you're playing
and then you turn it into the bass player.
You're like, can I play something new here?
Excuse me.
Can I play something new?
Can I play something new?
He's like, what did you say?
What's new C major?
Okay, let's do it.
Yeah, do it.
Last one, Peter, what do you got?
Can I play the mood of the tune?
Like, I think what you're talking about
is like playing the story and the like the lyrics as opposed to,
as opposed to like play this phrase, right?
Right.
It's like, can I play off of the actual ambiance,
as you might say,
if you are in fral.
Right, so if the bass player starts to play, you know,
starts to play what's new.
Do I know the lyrics?
Do I know the story?
Because maybe I'm like super happy about this.
And that's not really the tune, right?
I need to be a little more vibe.
I need to be a little more moody on this tune.
Or maybe...
Some shoegazing.
But if I'm playing like...
Yeah.
Then I probably don't want to be like...
Stargazing?
No stargazing.
No.
No.
I want to be a little more.
bubbly, a little more buoyant, right?
I want to be a little more like...
I got a surrey with the fridge on top, oh yeah.
If I were a bell.
No, but you need to like...
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, dong.
First of all, you should be doing this anyway
with every tune.
You should try to capture the mood.
But this could easily be a swing thought
of like, all right, we're about to play.
Can I just capture the mood?
Can I try to act this tune out
via my solo with the music?
You know, can I really try to capture...
Get the vibe right, get the vibe right, man.
Come on now.
Well, that's good.
So that's a bunch of things.
hopefully these questions and these concepts will help you as an improviser today.
And then, you know, just remember that like every day we have the opportunity, you know,
kind of like where we started to be an improvisist.
Every day we're singing the blues, get in the vibe.
But, I mean, we are improvisers and we want to exemplify that in an ongoing way.
We do not want to wait until we're at a certain point.
It's just like if you want to run a marathon, you can be a marathon runner in training
today. And you might not even run. You might just walk
because you're not ready to run. So you're going to walk around
the block. That's the beginning. But what if
I can't run a marathon yet?
Are you listening to me now? I know that I'm
saying. Yeah, you got to walk before you crawl.
You got to walk before you die in a crawl.
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Come on. I'm the best and I'm the worst.
Peter Martin.
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Yeah. Got an argument with the wifie about this yesterday. Okay, okay.
Such a heated argument.
She's about to become the ex-wifey, by the way.
Oh, no.
No, I'm just kidding.
First day of the week, every week is...
Monday.
Exactly.
She said Sunday.
And you know what her backup was?
She walked me around the house to every calendar in the house that's backed her up, I have to say, in terms of how it was lined up.
But do you do the thing on Google calendar where you change it to Monday's first.
Yeah, I know, but she didn't have any of those hanging.
It's harder to do it on a hanging calendar.
I see what I see her point, but...
Come on. Is Sunday really the first day of the week? That's the last day of the weekend, man.
That's exactly. You know what I mean? That's the last day of it.
Monday's the first day. She's like, well, that's the work week. I was like, I'm a jazz tradition.
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