You'll Hear It: Full Album Deep Dives with Jazz Musicians - YouTube Hang: review and discuss the videos in their recommended viewing

Episode Date: December 6, 2021

Adam and Peter review and discuss videos that YouTube recommends to them. From Adam Neely to Bob Reynolds and everything in between. Should this be a new feature? Discuss.Watch the videos discussed Adam Neely, Aimee Nolte, Jazz at Lincoln Center, Hello Foe!, Bob ReynoldsWatch Peter's deep analysis of Stevie Wonder on YouTube HEREHave a question for us? Leave us a SpeakPipeSupport the pod by spreading the word with the link youllhearit.com Learn more about Open Studio Pro: openstudiojazz.com/proInterested in more music advice? Go here to browse our catalog of jazz lessons and courses available for purchase. And be sure to check out our All Access Pass - every course from Open Studio on every instrument.Let us know what you think by leaving a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐  review, or head over to our YouTube channel.Follow us on Twitter | Instagram

Hey, Peter. Hey. So we're doing something new today. Yes. I'm really worried this is going to be a feature. Can we not feature this? Oh, I see what you're doing. You're trying to do a little reverse psychology.

No, no, no, no, no. Not at all. I'm being completely sincere. Why, you put a bad vibe on the episode today? I just feel like we have so many features. We're going to have to go back to five days a week. We might have to go back to seven days. Remember we did seven days a week for about a year?

That was dedication, baby. I can't do it. Execution, Dedication. And I'm Peter Martin. And you listen to the You'll Hear Podcast. Advice, inspiration, and a little bit of, you know, reviewing, a little bit of judgment, perhaps, a little bit of, like, stamp of approval or not today, right? Are we going dark on some people? Well, you know what?

We're going to talk about whatever YouTube serves up to us, what it recommends to us. If we go dark, we're just being honest, right? Okay, so let's set the... We're not planning on it. Let's set the parameters here. So we are, we both have YouTube open on our open studio account. Yes. So we're being fed some recommendations, mostly of other jazz YouTubers, because we are ourselves,

all this jazz YouTubers. Right. So, yeah, full disclosure, this is a little bit skewed in terms of the way that the algorithm treats us because it's like jazz YouTubers, SNL clips.

Yeah, yeah. Well, and then we do a lot of research on this and then we have multiple people that can log into this account. So it's not like an individualized thing. Three point lighting tutorials, stuff like that. But I think it's pretty representational in general.

I mean, I know on my personal YouTube. I don't know. I never know exactly what I'm logged into, but it's the similar types of things that we, work on that I think we're interested in, which is great. I mean, that's the beautiful thing about music is like we're reviewing stuff that we're into. We're producing videos or whatever. So

hopefully the algorithm is sort of colliding on us on this channel in a way that is recommending stuff that will be of interest for us to talk about. I hope so. I hope so. So should you go first? How is this going to work? I'm going to go first. Why we go back and forth? Okay. Okay. So the first one I have here, and this just showed up, like as often does a new video, this is just came out a few hours ago, I believe. This is from Adam Neely. So I haven't seen this. I'm thinking you have it either

because we've been in here recording for the last few of you. Audio podcast? Why are we watching videos? Well, no, but this, it's like old-timey radio. You hear it. And then, you know,

and then you see it before you hear it. You see it. Exactly. So this is called Solving James Brown's solving James Brown's rhythmic puzzle. Is Adam Neely.

One of our favorites, one of our favorites. One of our favorites. I think one of the top music YouTubers. Absolutely. Guys, I've been going nuts with this one. This is the beginning of James Browns. I got you.

The question that's been bugging me with this one, and the question that I have for you guys is, where is the emphasis here? Is he singing, I feel good? Is he singing, I feel good? Is he singing, I feel good? Okay, so already we've got this some classic Adam Neely here

in that he's bringing up a question that you never thought, you never had. I don't really want to know the answer to this? But do you not? Don't you kind of want to, you look a little aggravated, which I understand. So first of all, I just put this out there.

I love Adam. I love you. I'm a huge fan. This might be a little too Adam Neely E. For me. This is a little too much of a breakdown to literally break down the rhythmic characteristic

of James Brown's intro on I Got You, which is classic. And it to me is all about, it's so James Brownness. See, that's what I think it is. I think that your love, and I think a lot of people for James Brown and for this track,

such an iconic, intro and those words, I mean, out of popular music that has come out of America or anywhere in the 20th century, I mean, there's many other things you could talk about the Beatles and the stones and Stevie Won. But I mean, this is right there in terms of being able to recognize it. And so I think perhaps you're saying like, don't mess with a classic that's already been proven out, right? That's right. So I immediately go down. Or just you're ruining a bit of what makes it great, you know. But how do you know? We only 16 seconds. I'm just looking at the thumbnail here. I have this up on mine too. And it's just to notate out that. It seems, I don't know, there's something. But does it draw you in to be like, let's see where this is going to go? Yeah, I mean, like all of his stuff, I'm going to watch the whole thing. Right. And see, I immediately go down and look at how long is it.

Yeah. Because some of Adam's stuff can get not too lengthy for what he's talking about, I don't think, but can certainly go beyond the whatever 50 looks like sub 15 minutes that this is. So perhaps this is not of a big of a potential for over analysis as some of his other things. So we listen to a little more and see where he goes with it. Do it. of different ways, none of which feel all that satisfying. The vocal performance seems to defy traditional understanding in linguistics and music theory of stress patterns.

Okay, so now he's getting to a controversial area, I would say already, maybe for us, in that when you're talking about, I mean, do we deify James Brown too much and say that he's not, he's not going against anything? He defines what this stuff is. We can't come back and be like, why is he not fitting into these theory boxes? Yeah, absolutely. That's what I'm saying. Why even talk about it? Just enjoy it. Okay.

Listen, a little more. I get to figure out the question that nobody asked. What is the proper scantion for James Brown's team? I feel good. So, okay, so now he's sold me. He's resold me because he said the question that nobody asked. Like, he's being a little self-deprecating there. Now I'm, see, this is how Adam nearly gets you.

I'm on board now. He draws you in with something kind of controversial. It's like, I feel, oh, it's kind of like, don't worry about that. It's already. You're like, nobody asks this question. He's like, yeah, I know, but why not talk about it? I get it. This video is brought to you by a curiosity stream

and by streaming. Okay, so then we get into a quick ad for his thing and then it goes on. So I think that this is a good recommendation, though. It's an obvious one. We subscribe to his channel. We love his stuff.

It's super interesting. And I think that, you know, one thing about a well-produced YouTube video that is, you know, for somewhat of music nerds, be it a theory or lyricism or whatever, is like, whether you agree with it or not, are you drawn in to kind of see what,

and I'm just scanning ahead. He's got notation going. He's got audio clip. I mean, lot, you know, it's going to go in depth. You may not agree with it, but there's going to be, he's going to put his evidence out there. It's not going to be just some random, like, this is what I think. Yeah, bro.

Or maybe not. No, I agree. I agree. I agree. All right, what you got? Well, I got, so another friend of the show here. This is from Amy Nolte. Shout out to Amy Nolty.

Her channel is Amy Nolte music. And she literally. I bet that's a question she would never ask about, about James Brown, with the emphasis of that, that line, right? She would do it like how Oscar Peterson phrases something and she would kill it too. She just posted a Q&A

just a couple of hours ago how to get out of a musical slump Q&A. Now, this is not the first Q&A I've seen by Amy and you're not going to be able to see this but what I love about her Q&A is oftentimes she does it on a skateboard and today is no different.

Let's just start this a little bit. We might get an ad here. It's just very often traditional ones are typical. We don't, by the way, we're so cheap here. We do not get the pro account at Open Studio. just so everybody knows.

You're just talking over the ads. You're giving them double ads. Well, now it's Amy's ad. She's also on Nebula, Adam Neely's thing. This is her, like, getting on the skateboard. She's in Southern California. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Amy Nulte music.

I thought it might be time that I skate around a little bit. And bringing my first edition of Facebook and Twitter Q&A. She does have a helmet on. Shout out to Rob Barajo. No elbow pants. She looks like. You're playing in the background for today's Q&A. All the links to check out, my good friend, the amazing Rob Arrajo, are in the description.

All right, our first question comes from Gil Seri on Twitter. And he asks, why is law only a note to follow so? So if you can't see this, she's literally skateboarding down a street. And the question is projected there on the screen. And it's why is law defined as a note to follow so doesn't have it its own. So a very funny thing. These Q&As are so entertaining. And I think that's what I really like about Amy is like,

she knows her stuff, man. But it's still really fun to watch. And I love this, I love this Q&A on a skateboard. This is, I feel like I've seen another one, or maybe a couple where she's been on skateboards. But she's,

she's a good combination of like, Should we do this? Should we steal that? Should we go on bikes? I feel like we would crash and we'd have a hit viral video with the blood. It'd be like a squid game skateboard situation. We get mugged.

We're insane. Louis. You're in St. Louis. It's possible. Big shout out to St. Louis. Yeah. Big shout out. So, yeah, so that's Amy.

Of course, go check out Amy Nolte, one of our faves. Okay, good. Now, okay, now I'm going to go, well, okay, this is short. You're going to hear some great music. This is fun. So this is, you know, they just showed up in my feed. The title of the video is join Wintmarsalis and the JLCO for Big Band Holidays 2021, exclamation point.

It's just 31 seconds. seconds long. Big Band Holidays, it says, showing the band, Victor Goans, it's a gardener,

Witt Marcellus, Ryan Kaiser, I see the featuring the Jazz and Lincoln Center Orchestra. Carlos Sanriquez with a ridiculous

Santa hat on. Sounds good. Marcus printer. So, that's it. Then it says Get Tickets Now, jazz.

Dot org. For what? Where? Exactly. For what? That's so I'm, I'm like, join Whiteman,

so I'm thinking, oh, they're going to be on YouTube. The Jazz and Lincoln Center Orchestra, this is the description

Wint Marcellus presents, this is the Jazz and Lincoln Center, YouTube channel, by the way, presents big band holidays, featuring swinging big band versions of holiday classes. It's an uplifting seasonal event, perfect for the whole family with special guest vocalist, Alita Moses. Get tickets, and that's got a link at jazz.org, blah, blah, blah. Subscribe to our channel to learn more by Jazz and Lincoln Center. Visit us at, okay, the only problem with this is it doesn't tell us, is this an online thing? Is it in person? I'm thinking it is.

Do I have to be in New York? It's perfect for the family. but how am I going to get my whole family up to New York? I got questions. I like the music, but it's lacking a certain... Is there a link you can go to, learn more? There's a link to get tickets. To what?

Well, I don't know. So now I've got to go there. I don't want to get tickets. I mean, I might want to get tickets. You should run their social media. Are you doing anything busy? Okay, so it's an in-person thing, December 15th through 19th, Big Van Holidays.

Okay. So I don't know. To me, I'm like, I'm on YouTube. I want to see that. Like, this is getting me wanting to hear that. So I want to see that now. This is great if I live in New York City. and I'm a rich Upper West Sider,

and I can just saunter on down to Rose Hall. That's the dream, bro. That's the dream. I live two blocks from Alice Tully. But if I was doing that, I'm not going to be on YouTube looking at them. I'm going to be down there every night. I'm living the New York lifestyle.

Let's be honest. You're going to be at some dingy diner, the Upper West Side. Can you tuna fish salad sandwich? Yeah. But this is a little bit frustrating for me. So big shout out to Jazz and Lincoln Center. Friends of the Pod.

You know, we've been on this channel. I was going to say, I was just on their channel. You're on their channel on a thumbnail. Yeah, I will be suing them over that because that's unauthorized. No, no, no. We love them, but this is just a little bit of a funny thing. But maybe people that are following their channel, like they're using this for announcements,

little commercials for their local York thing. But the whole thing with YouTube is it's worldwide. That's a cool thing about it. So it would be great if this was like, because a lot of they, they do great streaming up there. Yeah. And I bet they're going to be streaming it. So that would have been a nice thing to include if you can't make it.

Would have been nice to know. Would have been nice to know. So maybe they'll add that. All right. So I'm up. So I'm going to do, you're going to love, this. So this is a young jazz YouTuber who does mostly memes.

Yeah. His name's... Mimis. Hello. No, it's meme. The channel is called Hello Foe. Oh, oh, he's been showing up, but he or she... Oh, I guess it's he, yeah. Are you annoyed by this person? I'm very annoyed. I'm not a fan. I should say. I'm not annoyed. I'm just not a fan. The video that's popping up here for me is

how to annoy your band members. I think I've seen this, actually. You know what it is? I'm not their target. I'm not his target audience. You are not. His target audience is freshman at Berkeley. like exclusively. So this is called... Not even a sophomore. No, freshmen. No, sophomores are too mature for this.

It's how to annoy your band members. The thing that's annoying, I think, for us is that he's got 19,000 subscribers as we make this. But this video has 65,000 views. You know how hard that is, YouTubers? It is very hard. That's difficult. That's like the opposite of what normally happened. This kid, no, he's, you know what?

And also what's annoying about this kid is that sometimes I laugh hysterically at his shit. So here's how to annoy your band members. I always want it to be a real piano. And we don't have a pro account. So we're going to have to watch. Cool seconds. However you build it, you could have been playing that. How do I know your band?

I'm going to read the text here. Then try this. Basis. They despise pianists and double the bass. So do that. Just listen to the gorgeous bass. How many basses does it take to change the life? He's playing a bass.

Step two, drummers. They hate it when you drag the tempo. Stylistic choice. Singers, they hate it when you add too many tensions to the court. Step four, everyone else hates the last. lick. So just quoted, don't stop. It's the worst. It's kind of funny. And he kind of knows it's the worst.

Oh, man. He makes very short videos, right? Ooh, the lick is terrible. This video is brought to you by Curiosity Stream. Hey, everybody. My name is Charles. And today we... That's a little preview for what's coming up for you. Oh, that was... I think I have that one. Wait. Is that, um... 251 explained in 60 seconds? Oh, actually, I don't have that one. I don't have that one. Get ready, my friend. But I've got... Okay. So the next one we're going to do here, big thumbs down on that last one.

Although I was laughing. So maybe... That's what I'm saying. It's like, oh, this kid's so ridiculous with the lick. I hate this lick culture bullshit. And then you're laughing because it's kind of funny. Kind of funny. But it's not mildly funny. Okay.

So this is from Bob Reynolds, who is a fantastic saxophonist. I think a... I feel bad just putting Bob Reynolds up. I know. An underrated YouTuber, I think, too. Great filmmaker. He edits all his own stuff. Totally.

Really good player. He's got some great albums out and of his own. He plays with Snarky Puppy and some... some big-time pop folks, but he's just a very, very, you know, fantastic jazz saxophonists, but also an exceptional teacher. And he has his own virtual studio for many, many years on one of the OGs in the online education market, of which you're more one of the NGs, new gangstice. He's an OG. So this is a video he had recently, and I actually did see this, and it's really good.

How I practice applying jazz vocabulary. Hey there. It's a lot of vocabulary. Yeah. My virtual studio is open this week. This is where I've been teaching online since 2010. I wanted to share a lesson with you from the studio, something we were working on.

Okay, so first off, let me just say, yeah, he's talking about his virtual studio, a little plug, little sponsorship, but you know what, he's just letting it out there, and then he's sharing a lesson from there, and I can tell you that it's a quality place. So I'm not mad about that. I like that.

That's informative. He's got the, oh, you would like this at him. He's got the sweater very much, not like the one you have on today, but the one you had on the other day. And he's in his car, which is interesting. This year, you'll notice my head. hair is quarantine length. But it was a fun one that we were working on because it takes one

small phrase. We sometimes refer to them as nuggets, but a lick, a line, a phrase, whatever. One thing that we're going to use through three different standards, three commonly called standard songs. And I'll show you how I use the same exact piece of vocabulary in single and double time. It references the sound of an altered dominant scale. So it has a cool sound over a two five one but the real important part is like notice how you can just take this one element one lick and use it basically in the back slid you're getting it like six different ways i mean you know two different speeds per standard so this is i mean this is little shades of adam manis here in terms of like taking one concept laying out kind of like what you're going to go through

in a very tactical way at the beginning of the video that's a huge compliment to pay to me whatever you get the idea you're sort of and i'll just sort of fast along this is this is good video PDF below PDF link in description Never heard of that? Adam And then he's got some good stuff Like he's in his studio

Last video where I had my soprano ligature break And then he talks about this like his I actually watch this And it's about setting his ligature broke And he got a new one He's unpacking it And you would think

Like if you're not a saxophone player It's like the most boring stuff But if you're a saxophone It's like oh my God I'm geeking out on His ligature number nine That I ordered from saxophonistology.org You know, but because he's such a good, you know, YouTuber, it was actually really interesting.

And it's like he keeps it moving and he gets to the improv stuff. So I like this. Very good YouTube for recommending this. And way to go, Bob Reynolds. We got one more. And this is a favorite of Peters. Actually, Peter, man, you love this guy. This is Charles Cornell.

I don't even know who it is. You think I'm going to play the lick, but I don't. He's dead panning straight through the camera. That was it. That's all I say. I'm not, you know, you'll hear it. I don't know.