Young and Profiting with Hala Taha - Gary Brecka: I Can Predict How Long You Have Left to Live! 10X Your Health With These 3 No-Cost Bio Hacks | Health and Wellness E250
Episode Date: October 16, 2023For more than two decades, Gary Brecka worked in the life insurance business, using medical records and demographic data to predict life expectancy. One day he had an epiphany: there were human beings... on the other sides of his spreadsheets and he wasn’t going to spend one more day of his own life predicting death. Instead, he would use his knowledge to help people live healthier, happier, and longer lives. Gary Brecka is now a biohacker, human biologist, and one of the world’s foremost experts on how thinking differently about nutrition can protect us against aging and disease. In this episode, Gary shares how we can optimize human life, slow down the aging process, and become superhuman versions of ourselves. Gary Brecka is the co-founder of 10X Health System and the CEO of Streamline Medical Group. He works with a hand-picked clinical team of Board-Certified physicians, Ph.D. researchers, business leaders, functional medicine experts, motivators, and scientists with one relentless mission to uncover the safest and fastest way to optimize your mind, body, and spirit through modern science. In this episode, Hala and Gary will discuss: - Working in life insurance to predict when people will die - Why the presence of oxygen is the absence of disease - Why most of us operate at 60% of our physiological selves - The importance of the right raw materials to health - How you can boost your oxygen levels - Using genetic testing to identify your body’s deficiencies - Ways to improve your hormonal balance - Why aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort - Ways to improve your health through discomfort - Helping Dana White and others improve their performance - And other topics… Gary Brecka is the co-founder of 10X Health System and the CEO of Streamline Medical Group. He is a human biologist and researcher who spent 20 years working in life insurance predicting when people were going to die to the nearest month. He is now on a mission to extend people's lives by identifying missing raw materials in their bodies and telling them how to put them back in. He works with a hand-picked clinical team of Board-Certified physicians, Ph.D. researchers, business leaders, functional medicine experts, motivators, and scientists with one relentless mission to uncover the safest and fastest way to optimize your mind, body, and spirit through modern science. Resources Mentioned: Gary’s Website: https://www.garybrecka.com/ Gary’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-brecka/ Gary’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/garybrecka/ Gary’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@garybreckatv Gary’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@gary_brecka/featured LinkedIn Secrets Masterclass, Have Job Security For Life: Use code ‘podcast’ for 30% off at yapmedia.io/course. Sponsored By: Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at youngandprofiting.co/shopify CoPilot - Head to go.mycopilot.com/PROFITING to get a 14-day FREE trial MasterClass - Get 15% off right now at masterclass.com/profiting Pipedrive - Go to youngandprofiting.co/pipedrive and get 20% off Pipedrive for 1 year! Relay - Sign up for FREE! Go to relayfi.com/profiting **Relay is a financial technology company, not an FDIC-insured bank. Banking services and FDIC insurance provided through Evolve Bank & Trust and Thread Bank; Members FDIC. The Relay Visa® Debit Card is issued by Thread Bank pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. and may be used everywhere Visa® debit cards are accepted. More About Young and Profiting Download Transcripts - youngandprofiting.com Get Sponsorship Deals - youngandprofiting.com/sponsorships Leave a Review - ratethispodcast.com/yap Watch Videos - youtube.com/c/YoungandProfiting Follow Hala Taha LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/htaha/ Instagram - instagram.com/yapwithhala/ TikTok - tiktok.com/@yapwithhala Twitter - twitter.com/yapwithhala Learn more about YAP Media Agency Services - yapmedia.io/
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We know now that modern medicine kills more people than morbid obesity and diabetes combined.
The industry designed to prevent death is the third leading cause of death.
If we translated that to any other industry, it would be laughable.
If you sold home security systems and you were the third leading cause of home invasion,
you'd probably be out of business.
We are excellent at crisis management, but we are terrible at bio-optimization.
More than 90% of your listeners are walking around at about 60,000.
60% of their true state of norm.
They have forgotten what normal feels like.
And the difference between where they are now and where they could be is simply knowing
what deficiencies are going on in your body and supplementing for those deficiencies rather
than supplementing for the sake of supplementing.
Once you unlock that deficiency, you're on your way to a state of optimization that you
never thought possible.
What is up young and profiter?
You're listening to Yap, Young and Profiting Podcast,
where we interview the brightest minds in the world
and unpack their wisdom into actionable advice
that you can use in your daily life.
I'm your host, Halitaha.
Thanks for tuning in and get ready to listen, learn, and profit.
Young and Profiters,
are you ready to learn how to live longer
and become a superhuman version of yourselves?
Well, my guest today is going to tell us how.
Gary Brecker is a biohacker, human biologist, and one of the world's foremost experts on how thinking differently about nutrition can protect us against aging and disease and make us the best version of ourselves.
For years, Gary worked for insurance companies, helping them predict how long it was going to be before their clients were going to die.
Now he helps people learn how long they can really live for.
Gary, thanks for joining us for this super important conversation and welcome to Young and Profiting Podcast.
So excited to be here.
I am very excited for this conversation.
I love talking about biohacking, and you are so experienced.
And when I was doing research for this podcast, I found out that you spent 20 years in the life insurance industry.
And you basically would predict when people would die to the nearest month.
And first of all, I didn't even know a job like this existed.
So it was so fascinating to me, how did you end up in the life insurance industry to start?
with. You know, what's amazing is how much of this science is actually done on an annual basis. I mean,
there's more than $30 billion of these types of policies issued every single year. And remember,
in the life insurance industry, when a life insurance company is getting ready to put $5 million or $10 million or $25
million worth of risk on your life, there's only one variable that matters, right? I mean,
and it's how many more months do you have left on earth? And so some of the most accurate science
in the world is actually held by life insurance companies. I always used to say that if that database
that I had access to could see the light of day, and unfortunately it never will, but if it could,
it would permanently change the face of humanity. I mean, it would upend modern medicine in a way
that would be catastrophic. And I made my way there because, you know, in my undergraduate degrees were
in biology. My postgraduate degrees were human biology. So I'm a human biologist by trade. I'm
I had another concentration in neuroscience.
And when I graduated, I went into this industry, I thought, temporarily to work as a mortality expert because I was just fascinated by the data.
And if they got five years of medical records on you and five years of demographic data, you know, we could tell the insurance company how long you had to live to the month.
And after doing this for more than two decades, I really began to realize that these were not just spreadsheets, right?
this was not just data. There were human beings on the other side of these spreadsheets. And,
you know, I was prohibited by law from contacting the patients. So even if I saw life-threatening
drug interactions, I could not contact the patient to warn them. And it became glaringly apparent
to me that the reason why people were not living longer, healthier, happier lives was not
pathology, was not disease, was not some catastrophic illness that they had. It was
for things that we called modifiable risk factors, right?
I mean, if I had been able to just pick up the phone and talk to that patient,
I could have added on average seven years to their health span,
not just their lifespan, but how many healthy years they had left on Earth.
And one day I had a massive epiphany,
and over a case that I was working on,
that they prohibited me from contacting the patient.
And I just decided that I wasn't going to spend one more day of my life,
predicting death I was going to spend the balance in my lifetime
trying to help people live healthier, happier,
longer lives. I always say if I was to boil that entire career down to a single sentence,
it would be that the presence of oxygen is the absence of disease.
Nothing is more truthful than that statement.
We did not find a single disease ideological pathway, not one,
that did not have its roots in what we call hypoxia, a lack of blood oxygen,
or was not exacerbated by a lack of blood oxygen.
And this includes every form of cancer, autoimmune disease,
Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, early onset dementia, type 2 diabetes, weight gain, water retention,
hormone imbalance, all of these things because the body is in a hypoxic state. In fact,
all human beings leave this planet the same way. We all die of the same thing. The definition of
death is lack of oxygen to the brain, hypoxia. Only we tend to think of it as an event, right? A gunshot
wound, a car, a boss, a stroke, heart attack. But the truth is this is a predictable curve. You are
either managing oxygen well or you are managing oxygen poorly. The more poorly you manage oxygen,
the faster you are accelerating towards the grave. The better you manage oxygen, the less quickly
you are accelerating towards the grave and all forms of pathology and disease. Well, this is going to be
a juicy, juicy interview because I have so much to dig into. There's some interviews where
like, I'm always excited to interview guests, but there's some topics from like, man, this is so
interesting and nobody talks about it. And this is one of those interviews where I'm like,
this is just so interesting. But before we dig into a lot of the things that you just said,
because you just rattled off a lot of information that I have a lot of follow-up questions for.
But let's take it back to your childhood for a minute. What was your first childhood memory
of getting interested in human biology? So I grew up on a 300-acre tobacco farm in southern
Maryland, Upper Marlboro, Maryland, the Marlboro Man. Never smoked tobacco, never chewed tobacco.
My parents owned the land and they leased it to a farmer to grow agriculturally. And I was an only child.
And you couldn't even see another house from my parents' home. So I spent actually a lot of my time
alone in the woods. You know, I would, you know, go into the woods during the day. I would ride my
bike eight miles to my best friend's house. There was a lot of animals on the adjoining farm next to me.
I got really fascinated by nature and animals, you know.
And I was always fascinated when cattle or horses or livestock got sick as a little young child.
And they would call this veterinarian out and the veterinarian would show up and do some magic stuff.
And then all of a sudden this animal would heal.
And I just thought that that was really, really cool.
And when I got into school, I found out in the eighth grade, I was tested as clinically photographic.
For a while, they thought I was borderline savant or maybe on the autism spectrum because I had such a hyper-concentrated photographic memory, which I later, you know, I've learned to use this as a superpower.
And so I naturally gravitated towards science because science is a lot of rote memorization. So chemistry, anatomy, science came very, very easy to me.
You know, I've learned to manage being clinically photographic. Now I don't, I can't read for pleasure, for example.
so I don't read menus and restaurants, try not to look at street signs, things like that,
because I record all the information that I see. But in terms of building a basis for a future in
science, it was, you know, I was sort of especially well crafted for kind of a voluminous amount of
storage of detailed information. And so my grade school years and my high school years
were all full of science experiments. I was super, super science geek. And then when I was,
went to college, I chose biology as a major, chemistry as a minor, and then I took, you know,
went on for four more years of just human biology. You talk about everybody can unlock their superhuman,
and it's clear with this photographic memory, you literally are superhuman. And I thought it was
very interesting to find out that there's disadvantages to you having this photographic memory.
Like you were just saying, you don't read menus or read anything for pleasure, because essentially
you can memorize anything,
like anything that you see,
you can just memorize.
Yeah, so like I don't take the seat back magazine
out of the pocket in front of me on a flight
because three months later,
I'll tell you where the sales center is
for a condo project in South Paulo.
You know, it says,
so you can store senseless information as well.
But I've learned to cultivate that.
You know, I am obsessed with the human body
and its form and its function.
And when I was in the insurance industry,
I had access to this database.
of 370 million lives. And remember that insurance companies have data that no other enterprise has,
no other medical enterprise, not even the federal government, the CDC, the National Institute of
Health, because an insurance company knows the day, the date, the time, the location, and the cause
of death for 370 million lives. We know exactly the disease ideological progression of things
like statins, all forms of pharmaceuticals, narcotics, corticosteroids, common antidepressants, antibiotics.
We know exactly what happens and what the impact is on mortality when people are, you know,
subjected to these kind of chemicals or synthetics or pharmaceuticals.
And if you really want to look at health trends, you know, follow the life insurance industry
because they have data on what terminates people's lives and they have voluminous amounts of
that data.
Remember, they bet tens of millions of dollars on a single risk factor.
And so, you know, that was naturally fascinating to me until I really had this sort of moral
epiphany about wasting my life, predicting death instead of spending my life, impacting life.
Do you ever think that this data would become available publicly or that there could be some
sort of regulation to make that data available publicly so that we could save more lives?
think that would ever happen? Unfortunately, no. I mean, the insurance lobby is the second most
powerful lobby to Congress, you know, first being big pharma, and then right behind them, you
have big oil. So it's very unlikely that's something that they're able to use to profiteer from
in these financial services products. Because remember, there are a lot of financial services
products that are based on when you're going to die. Annuities, reverse mortgages, life insurance,
these are all products that are based on human mortality.
And so that database is highly, highly, highly guarded by that industry.
You know, we knew, for example, in the 90s that opioids had an addictive amyloid long before
you heard about the pain medication crisis.
And we thought that they were just pain amyloids, but we realized that there was mixed in there.
There was an amyloid that not only could cause a cardiac event, but also created an addictive quality.
which from a pharmaceutical standpoint is a home run, right?
Because if I can create something that's addictive and toxic,
then I can actually get patent protection
and I can become a prescriptive pharmaceutical.
As soon as something's toxic and addictive,
it's prescribed and patented.
And if it's prescribed and patented,
then it's covered by health insurance.
If it's covered by health insurance
and it's patented, you have a monopoly.
And so a lot of these compounds that we put into our bodies
that are seeking to reduce inflammation or to elevate serotonin or reduce the use of serotonin
or elevate thyroid function are actually also designed to create dependency, reliance
in what we call tachyphylaxis, a desensitization response. And that's all built in
so that they can create the longevity and the patent protection, the prescription protection of it.
But the truth is, you know, I think the second big thing that I learned in studying more
for 22 years is that the majority of the reason why people are affected by aging, for example,
and we chalk all these things up to a consequence of aging, weight gain, water retention,
brain fog, porous sleep, poor focus and concentration, lack of waking energy. These things that we
accept as a consequence of aging, they are not a consequence of aging at all. They are a consequence
of missing raw material in the human body. You deprive the human body of a certain raw
material, certain nutrients, minerals, vitamins, amino acids, you get the expression of that disease.
And then we label this as a disease and we treat it chronically as a disease.
When the truth is, you know, there are a lot of myths about how disease travels in family.
So, for example, we say that people have genetically inherited hypertension.
They have genetically inherited hypothyroid, genetically inherited depression, anxiety, alcohol
addiction, you know, all of these things that run in families. But what's fascinating about, quote,
unquote, genetically inherited disease is that we've mapped the entire human biome. We know every single
gene in the human body. And no physician can tell you what gene causes any of those diseases.
The reason why they can't tell you what gene causes those diseases, like hypertension,
hypothyroid, hypercholesterolemia, hypertroglystridemia, all of these genetically inherited diseases,
is because that gene does not exist.
And if that gene does not exist,
then it means that those diseases do not exist.
We did not pass disease from generation to generation.
What we pass from generation to generation
is the inability for the body to refine a raw material.
This causes a deficiency which leads to that disease.
So, for example, if I was able to magically go into your body
and deplete vitamin D3, okay,
the single most important nutrient in the human body. If I could go in and magically deplete vitamin
D3, you would eventually develop rheumatoid arthritis-like symptoms. Now, you don't have rheumatoid arthritis,
but you would develop those parallel symptoms amongst other things, hormone imbalance, you know,
brittle bones. But if you went to the wrong physician and you started talking about your medical
history and said, listen, Doc, I get out of the bed in the morning, my feet and ankles are sore
when they touch the ground in the morning. I wake up sore and achy like I had a workout the night before.
lately, you know, my neck is really stiff and so is my low back and it's kind of hard to make a fist.
The wrong physician is going to go, you know what? And that's exactly what rheumatoid arthritis does.
You have rheumatoid arthritis. I'm going to put you on a corticosteroid, an inflammatory, you know,
to help you manage these symptoms. And then you start on corticosteroids, but what you don't tell the patient
is that once you start a corticosteroid, you have six years and one day until you're having a joint
replacement. And then as soon as you have a joint replacement, your mobility begins to reduce.
So, for example, if you were a 55-year-old female, 60-year-old female, and you applied for life
insurance policy, and I saw that you had been misdiagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, even though
I knew you only had a vitamin D3 deficiency, and I saw that you were put on corticosteroids.
I would artificially advance your age six years and one day. I would schedule a joint replacement
for you. And after the joint replacement surgery, I would reduce what's called your
ambulatory profile, how well you ambulate, how well you move. And as I reduce your mobility,
I can bring in all of the diseases that exacerbate with reduced mobility. We know now, for example,
that sitting is the new smoking. Sedentary lifestyle is the leading cause of all cause mortality.
And so now that I advanced those diseases that you never would have had, now you end up succumbing
to a disease you never would have had because you were diagnosed with a condition that you didn't have,
put on a medication that was not required, which caused a surgery that was unnecessary and led for you,
you're passing seven years earlier than you should have passed. And I can give you hundreds and
hundreds and hundreds of examples like this. And the truth is there's such a paucity of
understanding of basic human physiology and the majority of the medical community that we have stopped,
you know, we just don't have faith in human beings in mankind and humanity and the ability of this
to heal this and how powerful frequency and how powerful basic exercise and sunlight and grounding
and hydration and simple things back to the basics, how much this could entirely change the
trajectory of somebody's life. There are listeners right now listening to your podcast,
and I bet more than 90% of your listeners right now are walking around at about 60% of their
true state of norm. They have forgotten what normal feels like. They have accepted. They have
accepted this baseline sense of normalcy, they might think they feel great. They have no idea how
good normal can feel. And the difference between where they are now and where they could be
is simply knowing what deficiencies are going on in your body and supplementing for those deficiencies
rather than supplementing for the sake of supplementing. This is so crazy. Hearing this information to me
is almost shocking. It's overwhelming because you think about everything's working,
against us. It's like your health insurance is working against you. The pharmaceutical companies are
working against you. The life insurance companies are working against you. The doctors, I think,
have good intentions, but they don't know enough. They believe medicine is good because they have to,
because otherwise it makes what they do evil. Don't get me wrong. If I hit a windshield at 25 miles an
hour, I mean, I want a surgeon, I want painkillers. I'm going to the ER. But when you realize, you know,
there was a 2016 Harvard University study. It was repeated again by Johns Hopkins in 2019.
We know now that modern medicine, medical error, is the third leading cause of death.
So modern medicine kills more people than morbid obesity and diabetes combined.
And when you start to think that only cardiovascular disease and cancer killed more people than
modern medicine, it's astounding. But when you really process the fact that the industry designed
to prevent death is the third leading cause of death, that is just mind-blowing.
If we translated that to any other industry, it would be laughable, right?
I mean, if you sold home security systems and you were the third leading cause of home invasion,
you'd probably be out of business, right?
If you were a roofer and you were the third leading cause of roof collapse,
probably wouldn't sell a lot of roofs.
But we accept this in modern medicine, but we are excellent at crisis management,
but we are terrible at bio-optimization.
And there are 32,000 named diseases, you know,
in the pDR, in the physician's death reference, 32,000, nearly every single one of these can be traced
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make a bold statement and say, I will take any disease, any ailment that you or a loved one is
suffering from ADD, ADHD, OCD, manic depression, drug and alcohol addiction, poor sleep.
And I will tell you exactly what raw material is missing from that person's body.
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It's so incredible.
And so you always use this analogy.
Our bodies are beautiful machines.
We need the right raw materials.
You mentioned that D3 is a big one.
What are some other raw materials
that are commonly missing from people that cause disease?
So we have to think about the body,
the human body this way.
Remember, there's not a single compound.
This is the most important concept.
If anybody takes anything away from this podcast,
this is the takeaway.
The most important concept
to understanding really good,
human optimization is understanding that there's not a single compound known to mankind,
not one. There's no vitamin, there's no mineral, there's no amino acid, there's no protein,
carbohydrate, no nutrient of any kind that enters the human body and is used in the format
that we put it in. Without exception, everything that we put into our bodies gets converted
by the body into the usable form. This process is called methylation. So,
So it's like we pull crude oil out of the ground, right?
But you cannot put crude oil into your gas tank because the car doesn't understand that fuel
source.
Once crude oil is refined into gasoline, now the car can run because it understands that fuel
source.
Human things are no different.
So we put all kinds of compounds into our body.
Let's take the number one nutrient in the human diet, folic acid, for example.
So folic acid, for the record, is an entirely man-made chemical, right?
It is a synthetic chemical.
in a laboratory. It does not occur anywhere naturally on the surface of the earth. You cannot find
folic acid anywhere in nature. But we've been thought to believe that folic acid is a necessary
nutrient. It's the most prevalent nutrient in the human diet, by the way. It's in all white flour,
all white rice, all white bread, all white pasta. It's in all grains of any kind. And we don't call
these foods sprayed with folic acid. We call them fortified or enriched. Let's take just folic
acid for a moment. Well, we know that when folic acid enters the body, it's useless until the body
converts it into something called methylfolate. Now the body can use it. Well, what if, like 44% of the
population, you have a gene mutation called mththfr. I don't want to cuss on your podcast,
but it's affectionately called the motherfucker gene. It actually stands for methylene tetrahydropholate
reductase, but everybody calls it the motherfucker gene because it's mth-h-fr.
And 44% of the population, including 44% of your listeners, have this gene mutation.
Well, if you have this gene mutation, you cannot convert the most prevalent nutrient in a human diet into the form your body can use.
So what does this mean?
This means that the level of folic acid skyrockets and the level of necessary methylfolate declines.
Now you have a deficiency.
What are some of the expressions of that deficiency?
Well, depending on how severe this gene mutation is, nearly everyone that has this gene mutation
reports some form of anxiety.
So if you either suffer from anxiety
or you know somebody that's suffering from anxiety,
if you ask them these three questions,
you can prove very quickly that it is not coming
from a cluster of symptoms in their outside environment.
It is coming from their physiology.
And the first question is,
have you had this on and off throughout your lifetime?
Most people will say yes.
The second question is,
can you point to the specific trigger that causes it?
Most people that suffer from chronic anxiety will tell you, no, I cannot point to the specific
trigger that causes it.
I can be driving home from work on an otherwise innocuous day.
I can be overwhelmed with anxiety.
It can be at dinner with my friends and start having just these feelings of anxiety.
There's your second clue that it's coming from your physiology and not your outside environment.
And the third question is, if you've tried anti-anxiety medications, did they work?
And they'll say no.
They made me feel like a zombie.
So now, how could this deficiency in methylfolate cause this.
anxiety condition. By the way, it's the same with depression. It is the same with ADD and ADHD,
which are not attention deficits at all. They're attention overload disorders. They're not
attention deficit disorders. And so when you break down the physiology of what is anxiety?
Well, it's an excess rise of something called catacolamines. These are fight or flight neurotransmitters.
And we think that we need to have the presence of a fear.
order to feel fear, that's absolutely not true, right? If you drove home tonight and you got out of
your car and somebody was standing in front of you with a knife, that's an obvious, very real fear,
you would have a fight or flight response. Your pupils would dilate, your heart rate would increase,
your extremities would flood with blood. But I'm here in my log cabin, and as you can't tell,
I'm in picking Colorado, I'm at 10,500 feet. I could be laying in that bunk bed right there,
and I could start thinking about getting eaten by shark.
Now, the chances of a shark making it 10,500 feet up into the mountains and biting me in that
bed are zero, but I could have the exact same response.
So how is it that I can have fighter flight response to the presence of a fear and a
fighter flight response without the presence of a fear?
In fact, without even the chance that that fear would come true.
This is because of a rise in something called catecholamines.
deficiency in methylfolate does not allow us to metabolize these fighter flight neurotransmitters.
And so they rise and fall seemingly without trigger.
And they can go all the way to the point where they trigger a panic attack.
If you actually look up this gene mutation, M-T-H-F-R and anxiety, you will read hordes of peer-reviewed published clinical literature
that link this simple folate, methylfolate deficiency to these conditions.
and it is the same link to attention deficit disorder.
We've sort of labeled ADD as an attention deficit
or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.
It's not a deficit of attention at all.
It's an attention overload disorder.
It's too many windows open at the same time.
And why does that happen?
Because in the human brain, we don't just create thought.
We also dismantle thought.
And if you don't break thought down
at the rate that you create thought,
the mind gets very clouded.
Now you are paying attention to too many things.
It's not that you can't pay attention.
It's that you can't pay attention to so many things.
I mean, a lot of peace can come to these people
by using the right balance of B vitamins,
the right balance of specific forms of B12,
and using methylfolate.
That's why I think everybody once in their lifetime
should do a gene test
and look for five actionable genes.
It's only a test you do once.
You'll never repeat.
Once you know exactly what your body can convert and what it can't, now you supplement for that
deficiency and just watch the magic happen.
This is pretty interesting.
So you're saying in order to understand what raw materials you need or what you need to
change with your body, you've got to do some sort of genetic testing and not because you want
to figure out what diseases you've inherited, you actually want to figure out what genes.
What deficiencies you have.
What deficiencies you have.
Yeah, stop supplementing for the sake of supplementing, and you can start supplementing for deficiency.
You know, the question we should ask when we're about to supplement is not, what's the quality of the supplement, where was it manufactured, what's the reputation of the manufacturer or the person that's pushing this?
The first question we should say is, does my body need it?
Then go down the road of the quality of the supplement, because there are a lot of phenomenal supplements on the market.
Pure encapsulations, thorn, symbiotica. I mean, these are amazing supplement.
companies. And the products that they manufacture, including my own at 10X health, are products
lots of people need. But not everyone needs the same thing. And so once you unlock that deficiency
in your body, you're on your way to a state of optimization that you never thought possible.
I mean, clients of mine tell me all the time, they're like, oh, my God, Gary, I feel amazing.
And I just remind them, you actually don't feel amazing, not to burst your bubble.
that's what normal is supposed to feel like.
You just forgot how normal is supposed to feel.
It's so fascinating.
So I want to talk about oxygen,
because I know that oxygen is a really important topic.
Like you mentioned earlier,
the definition of death is hypoxia,
which is the lack of oxygen to the brain.
You also mentioned that if you could boil
your entire career down into one sentence,
it would be that the presence of oxygen
is the absence of disease.
So talk to us about.
Why oxygen is so important.
Obviously, we all know about breathing, right?
We can't go very long without breathing, but it's more important than that.
We know that aging, aside from being the aggressive pursuit of comfort, is a mitochondrial disease.
So inside of every cell in your body, you have thousands of these little motors called mitochondria.
Human beings are not powered by the air we breathe, the water we drink, or the supplements we take, or the food we eat.
were powered by one energy source. It's called ATP. And this adenosine triphosphate is made in a
battery inside the cell called the mitochondria. And inside the mitochondria, there is a motor, right?
It is spinning around and it's creating this energy. Well, every time this motor makes one revolution,
it has two choices. It can either create two units of energy, two ATP, or it can create 36 units of
energy. Same term, it's either 16 times more powerful or 16 times less powerful. It's a hard,
really hard concept of grasp. I mean, it's like walking onto a car lot and the, you know,
the salesman says, hey, there's two choices here. It's the same car. It comes in a 1600 horsepower
version or a 100 horsepower version. 100 horsepower is like a lawnmower, and 1600 horsepower is like
a professional NASCAR. And so this is what's going on inside.
the cell of our body. Ten percent of your body weight, by the way, is mitochondria. You have 110 trillion
of these in your body. Anything that downregulates the mitochondria or harms the function of the
mitochondria accelerates aging and makes fertile ground for all forms of pathology and disease.
So now we're kind of inside the cell, inside the mitochondria, talking about this little motor
called the greb cycle. If we're going to talk about aging and performance, we have to talk about
mitochondrial function, right? We know that the dysregulation of mitochondria is linked to every form of
disease in pathology in human body, including Alzheimer's and dementia. You know, there's so many myths about
these disease. For example, we know that Alzheimer's now is not Alzheimer's disease at all. It's type 3 diabetes.
A big lie, the big myth about Alzheimer's is that patients are losing their memory. That's actually not true.
They're losing access to their memory. And the access to this memory is disabled in large part,
because of down regulation in the mitochondria.
So we know that this mitochondria can produce 16 times more energy
or 16 times less energy.
So what determines whether or not it's 1,600 horsepower
or 100 horsepower, the presence of oxygen?
If oxygen enters that cycle, it creates 16 times more energy.
If oxygen doesn't enter that cycle,
it creates 16 times less energy.
And so here is where the importance of oxygen comes
to play. And when you start talking about, well, how can I better manage oxygen? Well, I'll give you some
free ways to do it right now. And all this is doing is getting back to the basics, right? So if you've
ever heard of earthing or grounding, which is where you take bare feet and touch bear soil,
and think about that. If you're listening to this podcast, think about the last time that you had
bare feet touching bear soil. I mean like dirt, grass, sand. Okay, that was the last time that you
actually discharged into the earth. Human beings,
we build up a charge in our body.
You know, we all know about the acid alkaline scale.
Well, pH stands for potential hydrogen.
It is a charge.
If you want to change the pH of the body,
you don't drink alkaline water.
That was the biggest marketing myth ever sold to the public.
You cannot make the body alkaline by drinking alkaline water.
If you want to make the body alkaline, you change the charge.
How do you change the charge?
You run a low gouse current through the body.
There's two ways to do this.
There's a way that you can pay for, and there's a way that it's free.
If you want to pay for it, and you buy a PEMF mat, pulse electromagnetic field.
Right?
And you lay on that mat 16 to 30 minutes a day.
You just put it in your bed.
And every morning that you wake up, you will wake up alkaline.
It will alkalize all 32 trillion cells in your body.
If you don't want to spend $5 grand on a PEMF mat, then take your shoes off six minutes a day
and come in contact with the surface of the earth.
Right.
change the polarity in your body. It will change the polarity of the surface of every cell in the
body. And what will happen is, instead of cells sticking together because they have opposite charges,
they will repel because they have the same charge. Why is that important? Because if I can increase
the surface area of the cell, now the cell can exchange with its environment, eliminate waste, repair,
detoxify, regenerate. And this also increases the surface area to absorb oxygen from
the bloodstream. So magnetism is one way to improve the oxidative state of the body. The second
is oxygen itself. This is why sedentary lifestyle is the leading cause of all-cause mortality,
because we are getting less oxygen and therefore less circulation. The majority of these
pathologies and diseases too have a circulation component. So I tell people that to learn to do
an eight-minute breathwork technique, I borrowed it from Wimhoff. I'm not the purveyor of this
technique. You know, he's the father of modern breathwork. You go to my Instagram. I do
tutorials on Instagram all the time about breathwork. But you can wake up in the morning.
You can do eight minutes of breathwork, three rounds of 30 breaths with a breath hold in between.
And this does two things. Number one, the number one vasodilator in the human body is not nitric oxide.
Nitric oxide, by the way, is toxic. So if you're listening to this podcast and you're taking
and nitric oxide supplement because you're an exercise enthusiast or you're a bodybuilder
or you want to meet more vascular, please stop. That is toxic to the mitochondria. It actually competes
for oxygen in the mitochondria, something called cytochrome Coxidase. It pulls oxygen out and forces
itself to dock. The major phasodilator in the human body is carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide causes
our veins to dilate. So by doing breathwork and flooding the blood with oxygen and then holding our
breath for a prolonged period of time and dilating our blood vessels. We actually, when we breathe in
again, we get more oxygen to the tissues. We can actually change the oxygen tension in our tissues.
Now, I use something called a hypermax oxygen system, multi-step oxygen system. Again, it's about
five grand, but it's an oxygen mask. You put it on. You breathe 93 to 95 percent 02 for 10 minutes
while you're mildly exercising, but you do not have to spend money on that system. You can learn to do
breathwork. And then the third thing is to expose your skin to natural sunlight. And the truth is,
most of us are not getting enough sun. It's not that we're getting too much sun. And the safest time
to expose your skin to sunlight is the first 45 minutes of the day during first light, because
there's a very special type of light during that 45 minutes. There's no UVA. There's no UVB rays.
So nothing that can damage your skin, nothing that can burn your skin. And I sit out on my porch with my
shirt off. I'm in a pair of shorts, even when it's cold outside. And I do three rounds of 30 breaths.
I expose my skin to sunlight. Sunlight, certain wavelengths of sunlight, when they pass through the
skin, they will go into the mitochondria, they will go into the motor of the Krebs cycle.
They will kick out nitric oxide and force oxygen to dock just by exposing yourself to sunlight.
Now, I also have a red light therapy bed and red light therapy.
as you may or may not know is the rage in sports recovery and anti-aging and healthy skin now.
But if you don't want to go out and spend money on a red light therapy bed, you can expose your
skin to sunlight. So those are three things your listeners could do for free, starting tomorrow,
grounding, sunlight, breathwork, to absolutely change the trajectory of their life. The reason why
most people will not do it is because it's too easy. It's because they're like, it can't be that
simple, but it is. And, you know, I really tried to impress upon people how these tiny little
habits could completely change the trajectory of their life. This has been such valuable information.
And so I interviewed Wim Hof on this podcast. He's incredible. I'm Wimov certified. Yeah,
I'm going to the period of films with him this year. Oh, really? He's awesome. Yeah, I loved him.
He was an inspiration. So let's talk about hormone balance, because hormone balance is a topic that I think is
starting to bubble up more in society and culture. I'm seeing a lot more like Instagram
reels about hormone balance, especially for women. Why is hormone balance something that we need
to understand more? And what are some key tips that you have to improve our hormone balance?
So let's talk about basic human physiology for a moment and where hormones fit into physiology.
So I would say the greatest single reason why people walk through the door of one of my clinics
at 10x health is because the biggest complaint is I just don't have the same energy I used to have.
I just lack energy. You know, my waking energy, I feel like my short-term recall is not what it used
to be, and I just basically lack energy. So when you say you lack energy, if we convert that to
physiology, basically what you're saying is, I'm not low on energy, I'm low on oxygen.
Because everything that you perceive about energy is nothing more than oxygen in your blood.
So I want you to imagine a tree for a moment.
And let's start in the leaves, and I'm going to walk you all the way down into the roots below the soil.
So up in the leaves, you're saying, I lack energy.
So when you say you lack energy to me, I know that you're low on oxygen.
What transports oxygen around the blood?
A red blood cell and the fluid inside the red blood cell called hemoglobin.
So that means I want to raise the number of red blood cells, and I want to raise the amount of hemoglobin they have.
So let's move down the tree.
Where do I go to get more red blood cells and more hemoglobin?
Well, I go to the factory that makes red blood cells and hemoglobin, and that's the bone marrow.
So now I get to the factory, and I want to increase its production.
How do I increase its production?
Well, the boss of the bone marrow is the hormone testosterone.
In men and women, the primary role of testosterone is not male characteristics, it's not
de-voice, aggression, facial hair, muscles, it's none of those things.
In men and women, the primary role of testosterone,
is to put pressure on the bone marrow to increase red blood cells. It's called eurythropoises.
So if I'm deficient in testosterone, I'm very likely deficient in red blood cells in hemoglob.
So how do I raise testosterone? I don't just start taking testosterone. I go further down the tree
and I find out what is testosterone made from. It's made from something called DHEA. And you can get your
DHEA tested. If you are clinically deficient in DHEA, you will be deficient in testosterone.
If you are deficient in testosterone, your bone marrow will produce less red blood cells in
hemoglobin. If you produce less red blood cells in hemoglobin, you will be low on oxygen.
If you are low on oxygen, you will be low on energy. So that now let's just go right through the
soil into the root. What is DHA from? Vitamin D3. So the first thing we want to do, before we start
talking about taking hormones is we want to make sure that our D3 is in the optimal range
and our DHEA is in the optimal range. Because 70% of the clients that we see that are deficient
in hormones do not need hormones. They need the raw material for the body to make hormones.
So D3 and DHEA will raise testosterone, raise the pressure on the bone marrow, improve red blood cell and
hemoglobin levels and improve your oxidative state.
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So let's switch gears and talk about sugar for a minute. Is sugar our kryptonite?
Oh, all evil.
Yeah, it's our kryptonite when becoming superhuman.
So the truth about sugar is that, you know, first of all, we have to understand that the brain,
as sophisticated as we'd like to think it is, it's actually not.
The brain is very primal.
And you know what the brain cares about?
The brain cares about survival, right?
If the brain wants calcium, it will leach it from the bones.
If it needs amino acids, it'll strip it from lean muscle.
And if it wants sugar, it will activate a receptor on the back of the tongue called the RF-1A.
receptor. This is a very special receptor because things have to be swallowed to trigger this
receptor. And when it passes by this receptor, this receptor doesn't register sweet. It releases dopamine.
And this is why most people are not, don't just like sugar, they are addicted to sugar.
In fact, the entire synthetic sugar industry, aspartame, sucralose, all of these
synthetic sugars or sugar substitutes, the majority of their chemical component is not designed
to taste sweet. It is designed to ding the dopamine receptor. It is designed to cause your brain
to release dopamine, which gives you a pleasure response, which is why people are addicted to
sodas, artificial sweeteners and sodas, which is why people are addicted to all kinds of sugar
because they don't just like the taste of sugar. They are addicted to the dopamine. And in the
mortality space, we used to say the absence of dopamine is the presence of addiction. The reason why
most addiction has a tendency to shift if you've ever been an addict or ever known a true addict,
drug addicts become alcoholics, alcoholics become workoutaholics, workoutaholics become workaholics.
Why does addiction have a tendency to shift? Because we never address the dopamine deficiency.
If I was able to magically go into your body right now and deplete dopamine, you would begin to engage in
dopamine-seeking behaviors, right? Dopamine is the primary driver of behavior. Serotonin is the
primary driver of mood. So when we talk about sugars, we really have to talk about this dopamine cycle.
And that's why sugar addiction is right up there with drug and alcohol addiction. We have increased
the intake of sugar 400-fold in this country since 1964. The worst thing that ever happened to
humanity was the war on fat in the 90s and where they started to replace everything with high
sugars. We know now, for example, that Alzheimer's is type 3 diabetes. It's insulin resistance
in the brain. So sugar is really the root of all evil. So when it comes to sugar then,
are you suggesting that we should like completely remove sugars? It's something that we don't
need as a raw material? No, I'm just saying that we should eat when we eat whole foods and we
eat less processed sugar, and this is where we get into trouble, right?
processed foods and high glycemic sugars, especially your white sugars, and these are really
dangerous for you.
The majority of my sugar intake comes from three sources, natural honeies, natural maple
syrups, and fruits that end in berry.
The problem with the majority of sugars is that they not only do they ding the dopamine
receptor and then fall off, which makes you crave the next sugar ding, but what sugar does
is it raises our insulin level.
And most people think that the primary role of insulin
is to lower blood sugar,
and that's actually not true.
The primary role of insulin is to block
any other form of energy use in the body.
So if insulin is high, the body cannot burn fat.
So what happens when insulin is high?
We store fat at an accelerated rate.
The first place that fat builds up is in the blood.
So people that eat the most sugar have the highest blood fat.
So the heaviest people eat the most sugar because high sugar causes high insulin.
High insulin forces fat storage.
Your body does not have the choice to use fat as an energy source.
And so one of the healthiest things you can do for a lot of my patients that are sugar-addicted
or they have high triglycerides, high fat in the blood, I do what's called a keto reset.
I put them on a prescription ketogenic diet for 10 weeks.
It's a very easy diet to get used to.
And at the end of that, you start to reintroduce sugars and you give their pancreas a break.
You make them insulin sensitive again.
You know, high levels of insulin is one of the signs of something called metabolic syndrome.
And high insulin leads to another symptom of metabolic syndrome called high triglyceride.
So high insulin, high blood sugar, high blood fat, mild abdominal obesity.
this is what we call metabolic syndrome. It's the leading cause of cardiovascular disease,
which is the leading cause of death worldwide. And all of this can be traced back to sugar.
And so when people say, well, what diet should I be on? You should be on a whole food diet.
It doesn't matter keto, paleo, carnivore, raw food, vegan, vegetarian. You need to be eating
clean, whole foods, wild caught salmon, pasture-raised chickens, free-range eggs, organic grass-fed meats.
These are excellent sources of nutrition for you and organic fruits and vegetables.
More processed foods, especially processed sugars we have, the higher the incidence of all disease pathways.
So I know we were talking about Wim Hof previously, and one of his big core concepts is this need to make sure that we're uncomfortable, right?
That we're always so used to like air conditioning and all these things that just make us comfortable, comfortable and kind of complacent.
You also agree that aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort.
The more we aggressively seek comfort, the faster that we age is something that you say.
Talk to us about the need to be uncomfortable sometimes.
There is a process in the human body called hormesis.
Hormesis is a stress-strengthening response.
So, for example, we know that if you don't load a bone, it won't strengthen.
If you don't actually tear a muscle, it won't grow.
if you don't challenge the immune system, it will weaken.
And so we've got to stop telling Grandma not to go outside.
It's too hot.
Not to go outside.
It's too cold.
Just to lay down.
Just to relax.
To eat at the very first pang of hunger.
This is collapsing all of our defense mechanisms.
Not to get political or alienate half your audience or anything.
But one of the worst things to happen to us during the pandemic was social distancing, residential
quarantining, and masking.
Those were so antithetical.
to human survival and our basic human physiology that we are seeing now the outcome of a global
collapse of the immune system. So when you take human beings out of contact with other human
beings, when you force them into the residences, when you mask them up, when you social
distance them, when you don't expose them to daily pathogens and viruses and bacteria, what
happens is the immune system starts to weaken. We're on our eighth variant of Omnacron.
So why is our immune system so weak?
Why are we so susceptible?
Because we actually stopped challenging the immune system.
This is why things like cold water exposure are so good for you.
I know Wimhoff is a major fan of that.
Remember, we're not trying to become cold adapted.
We're trying to cold shock the body.
So what happens, for example, when we expose the body to cold water?
Well, we get a peripheral vasoconstriction.
We actually get an increase in the release of endorphins like dopamine that actually give us a pleasure response.
We force all the oxygen into the core to our liver, lungs, pancreas, our kidneys up to our brain.
We activate brown fat, which is our thermostat in the body. We improve our metabolic rate.
And you can do this by getting in cold water three minutes a day or taking a three-minute cold shower.
Now, why won't most people do that? Because it's uncomfortable. We don't like to go outside because it's too hot.
We don't like to go outside because it's too cold. We like to just lay down and relax because that's comfortable.
we stress the body. It has a hormetic response and it strengthens. And so the reason why I say
aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort is that most people just, they avoid exercise or high
temperatures or low temperatures or cold exposure or all of these things because they just don't
want to be uncomfortable. I would love to close out with a few of your favorite stories of how
you've basically transformed people's lives. I know that you have a lot of celebrity clients.
like the UFC President Dana White,
but whatever examples you want to give
of how you've actually transformed people's lives
through all that you work with human biology.
Well, you know, my favorite stories
are where you take a myriad of seemingly unrelated symptoms, right?
So think about all these symptoms people have
as like spokes on a wheel.
Waking, water retention, poor sleep, hormone imbalance,
lack of focus, lack of concentration,
low waking energy, poor libido.
it seems like the whole world's going to hell in a handbasket.
What I always try to do is I look for the hub.
Where do all of these things meet?
So, for example, Dana White just disclosed on my podcast very publicly, my work with his mother-in-law.
She's a 79-year-old woman, beautiful woman who was diagnosed with three very significant conditions, early onset dementia, peripheral neuropathy, and congestive heart failure.
When you ask yourself, where do all of these meet, right?
So the clinical team and I sit around. Remember, I'm not licensed to practice medicine, so
eventually there is a physician involved that is licensed to practice medicine. Where do all these
things meet? They all meet at circulation. If I reduce circulation to periphery, I get the
symptoms of peripheral neuropathy. If I reduce circulation to the brain, I get these symptoms
of early onset memory loss or early onset dementia. If I reduce circulation to the heart,
I get the expression of congestive heart failure. And so these are not independent of one
another, they all meet at this core of circulation. So we use things like oxygen baths, hydrogen
water filtration systems for her to drink hydrogen water, resveratrol to increase blood flow,
and simple raw materials and nutrients to improve the blood flow and circulation. Sixty-five days
later, after she was diagnosed with these conditions, he no longer qualified for those diagnoses.
There's so many people that are listening to this program right now that have some kind of
condition going on in their body. And they've been told they have hypothyroid or they've been told
they have hypertension. And they've just accepted that diagnosis and now they're, they subscribe to a
lifetime medication. I would really encourage them to get that one-time genetic test done. You do it
once in your lifetime. You'll never guess again on what you need to supplement with. And it could
permanently change the trajectory of your life. So most of the listeners that are tuning into the show,
they're probably in their 30s. Where can we go to learn
from you? What books do you have? What websites do you have? What services, products? Like,
how can we further work with you to learn from you on how to optimize our bodies? I just started a
podcast on human optimization called The Ultimate Human. Dana White was a guest on there. You'll see
Stephen A. Smith, Steve Harvey, Steve Aoki, lots of steves. And you'll see lots of average patients,
but I also interview the leading PhDs and MDs and researchers in the world on bio-optimization.
longevity, optimal health.
On my Instagram, I don't do anything but teach.
So if you just go to at Gary Breka,
just my first and last name,
you'll see tons of videos on breathwork,
morning routine, cold plunging,
oxygen, light, magnetism.
You'll see all of the different topics
that I lecture on.
I put all of my stage talks onto my Instagram.
And then finally, you can go to 10X,
the number 10, the letter X,
healthtest.com,
and order that gene test.
You can see the supplements that I manufacture myself, and I have tons of information on that site on bio-optimization.
Awesome.
Are you in business with Grant Cardone?
He also came on this podcast, 10X Health.
Is he an investor or something?
Yes.
It was streamlined medical group, was my company eight years ago.
Grant acquired it, and now he and I and my wife and Brandon Dawson are partners in 10X Health.
Oh, awesome.
He's been looking amazingly.
Oh, yeah. He was one of my early success stories, right? One of my earliest clients. And, you know, Grant does not look, act or perform like a 65-year-old man.
No. Right? He'll run circles around those 25-year-olds.
The last two questions I asked, all my guests are the same. And then we do something fun at the end of the years. The first one is, what is one actionable thing our young improfitors can do to become more profitable tomorrow?
Find something that you would otherwise do for free and monetize it.
And what is your secret to profiting in life?
and this can go beyond business, financial,
but what is your secret to profiting in life?
My secret to profiting in life
is really kind of aligning my purpose with my passion.
I'm passionate about the human body
and human physiology,
and my purpose is to change the face of humanity.
And because those two are so aligned,
I really, I know this sounds so altruistic and cheesy.
But it's true.
I don't feel like I work a day in my life.
This podcast did not feel like work.
I really enjoyed this podcast.
And when I get off the phone,
I've got a dozen calls lined up with clients and patients and my clinical team.
And none of that feels like I'm excited to get off of this podcast and get on those calls.
I feel like most people have a passion.
Some people have a purpose.
If they don't align their passion and their purpose, what really lights your fire and wakes you up in the morning?
What would you otherwise do for free?
And then when you have a purpose, like, you know, which is, by the way, linked to longevity,
all of the blue zones in the world isolated the fact that the elderly people still felt like they had a purpose.
So when you have a purpose, meaning, you know, mine is to change the face of humanity.
This information that I have does not belong to me.
It belongs to your listeners.
It belongs to mankind.
I'm just blessed enough to have it flow through me since I'm so almost psychotically passionate
about the human body and I read voraciously and I study voraciously and my purpose is to touch
the face of humanity.
Those two aligned.
And I'm telling you, it's like I feel like I won the lottery every day.
Yeah, I can feel the passion through you.
And I'm totally aligned.
I totally agree with everything you're saying.
And Gary, even a wealth of information.
I can't wait to have you back on the podcast.
Thank you so much for your time.
Where can everybody learn more about you and everything that you do?
What are your main channels?
My Instagram at Gary Breka.
Amazing.
Thank you so much, Gary.
You're so welcome.
Thank you for having me on.
I really liked this conversation with Gary Breca.
It was so eye-opening and I found it so moving what he said about not wanting to waste his life
predicting death.
when instead he could spend it impacting life for the better of humanity.
I think that's something we can all strive to do, whether we're biohackers or not.
Gary offered us so many actionable biohacks, but I wanted to flag a few that he emphasized.
He told us that his entire career boils down to this one sentence.
The presence of oxygen is the absence of disease.
So how can we better manage the oxygen levels in our body?
The easiest way to do so, says Gary, is an activity called grounding,
which basically means take off your socks and shoes occasionally and just let your feet connect
with the earth. The second technique is breathing. He recommends the eight-minute routine pioneered by
Wim Hof, who we also had on the show in episode number 175. Better breathing helps boost our oxygen levels
and offsets the sedentary lifestyles that so many of us have today. And the third way to help
your oxygen levels is exposing your skin to natural sunlight. This is the safest to do in the first
45 minutes of the day. Gary kills two oxygen birds with one stone by sitting on his porch in the
morning sun to do his breath work. Finally, I was really struck by Gary's emphasis on seeking discomfort.
Aging, as he puts it, is the aggressive pursuit of comfort, something we're all guilty of.
But if we want to slow down aging, we need to make ourselves uncomfortable. So seek out good stress,
whether it's a cold shower, fasting, or intense exercise. Just like you have to tear a muscle to build it,
You have to challenge your immune system and your body to strengthen them.
And that means embracing discomfort.
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