Young and Profiting with Hala Taha - Trent Shelton: Let Go To Grow | E117

Episode Date: June 7, 2021

You’re allowed to break up with your dreams. Sometimes letting go is the only way we can grow and go on to be successful.   In today’s episode, we are talking with Trent Shelton, former NFL player, author, and international motivational speaker. Considered as one of the most groundbreaking motivational speakers of our era, Trent has touched millions with his words on self-worth, self-love, and recognizing your greatness.   After his short-lived and rocky stint in the NFL, Trent had the opportunity to speak at a church event back home in 2011, and his world changed forever. After a sensational performance, it was undeniable to the audience and Trent that he found his purpose through inspiring others to live better lives. He started creating YouTube videos with his words of wisdom and courage, which went viral. Before he knew it, Trent was speaking across the globe and packing arenas from New York, to London and Fiji, and reaching over 50 million people across his social channels.   In today’s episode, we discuss Trent’s time in the NFL, what it was like pivoting to something completely new and how he was mentally able to let go of a failed dream. We also discuss how it can get lonely at the top, when to walk away from relationships and we go deep on some timely social justice issues of today.   Sponsored by -    BetterHelp. Get 10% off your first month by visiting betterhelp.com/yap    Olay Body. Fearless In My Skin.   Social Media:   Follow YAP on IG: www.instagram.com/youngandprofiting Reach out to Hala directly at [e-mail] Follow Hala on Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/htaha/ Follow Hala on Instagram: www.instagram.com/yapwithhala Follow Hala on ClubHouse: @halataha Check out our website to meet the team, view show notes and transcripts: www.youngandprofiting.com   Timestamps:   00:49 - Trent’s Experience in the NFL 02:30 - How Trent’s Identify Was Morphed By the NFL 04:16 - Why Suppression Leads to Depression 06:49 - The Importance of Asking For Help 09:18 - How To Help Others 11:31 - The Way Trent’s Career in the NFL Ended 13:29 - Trent’s Purpose and How He Discovered It  16:30 - How Trent Got His Intro to Speaking 21:07 - The Way Trent Mentally Pivoted 24:49 - How Trent’s Community Reacted to His Decision 26:24 - Why The People Closest To Us React Differently To Success 31:22 - Trent’s Thoughts on Being Lonely as an Influencer 33:22 - How You Know When It’s Time to Walk Away From a Relationship 36:06 - Trent’s Recipe to Get Over Pain 41:25 - Discussion of Using Platform for Social Justice Movements  48:10 - Trent’s Secret to Profiting in Life    Mentioned in the Episode:   Trent’s Website: https://www.trentshelton.com/ Trent’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trentshelton/ Trent’s Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkwdk8T8kJAzH7CusCv8QoA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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you'll love it here at Young & Profiting Podcast. This week on YAP, we're chatting with Trent Shelton, former NFL player, author and speaker. Trent is considered one of the most groundbreaking motivational speakers of our era, and he's touched millions with his words of self-worth, self-love, and recognizing your greatness. After a rocky, short-lived stint in the NFL, Trent had an opportunity to speak at a church. It was his first speaking experience and his world changed forever. He had his sensational performance, and it was undeniable to the audience and to Trent that he finally found his true purpose

to inspire others to live better lives. He started creating YouTube videos with his words of wisdoms and created the tagline It's Rehab time which went viral. Before he knew it, Trent was speaking across the globe and packing arenas from New York to London to Fiji and reaching over 50 million people across his social channels. In today's episode, we discussed Trends Time in the NFL, what it was like pivoting to something completely new, and how he was mentally able to let go of a failed dream. We also discussed how it can get lonely at the top,

when to walk away from relationships, and we go deep on some timely social justice issues of today. Hey, Trend, welcome to Young and Profiting Podcasts. I'm excited to talk to you today. Hey, Hala, thanks for having me, and I'll give you an opportunity by sharing your platform. I appreciate you. Of course, of course.

So you have had a really cool journey. You know, you started your career off in the NFL, and now you're an author, you're best-selling author, you're a speaker, you're a podcast host. You do so many cool things in terms of motivating and inspiring other people, but I wanna talk about your journey in the NFL because essentially your identity was based around football,

your whole entire young life. And then you finally achieved this huge milestone being in the NFL. What was that like? Was it everything that you had hoped for? And what was that like actually achieving that milestone and then help us understand what that experience was like overall for you?

Absolutely. So it definitely felt great achieving it. I mean, it's been a childhood dream since I was, I mean, I can remember I had two older brothers. So I always tell people like I probably came on my mom's wound, won the play sports, just chasing after them. And so making it there was great.

You know what I mean? Because it's just like you dream of it and you see it on TV and you know, to actually make that dream a reality is super cool. But just to be straight up with you, you know, it was a dream coming true and then I'm turning to a nightmare real quick. Because yes, it was everything I thought it would be, but at the same time, it was a dream coming true and I'm turning to a nightmare real quick because yes, it

was everything I thought it would be, but at the same time, it wasn't, you know, I mean, it became more of a business and you're here athletes talk about this a lot, you know, when you start with P.W. football, you just having fun in high school and in college and politics start to get more into it and then, you know, it becomes more of a business. I mean, it is your job. It's basically your nine to five. And it kind of took for me at least the fun out of it. Then obviously my journey of going from team to team, getting cut eight or nine times, not knowing if, you know, one day I'm going to be in a certain city. I might not be in that city the next day. So it was very tough, um, as far as finding security and who I was and actually just knowing my worth,

you know, that was probably the first time in my life where I really questioned just who I was as a person. Yeah, because you had been so good at sports and everybody had expected that you were gonna be this breakout NFL player and you got there and I think you got cut like 11 times. So it was lots of ups and downs, right? So how did it feel in terms of like your friends and your family and everybody who was kind of always,

I'm sure because you are in the NFL, everybody was always like, Oh Trent, you know, my cousin's in the NFL and made everybody feel really proud. So like, was that really hard for you? Absolutely, it was hard because my identity was that, you know, I was Trent, not the human being, I was Trent, not the human being. I was Trent showing the football player. I was Trent showing the cousin that played at Baylor or with the coach or with Seattle.

And there's no shade to anybody because obviously they're just proud of the accomplishments that I made. But I started to wrap my life around that. And it was just this thought that I know a lot of athletes deal with, it's like, okay, this is my everything and if I lose this, who will I be without it?

Who would I be without that title? And once I started to lose that title from my name, I started to find a lot of depression, I started to find a lot of hard times because I felt as if I had nothing more to my life because that was my everything since I was four or five years old. I can really relate to that. When I was in college, I worked at Hot 97. And I was Angie Martinez as assistant, and I dropped out of school for it,

and I worked there for three years, and then they fired me after three years of dedicating my life. And same thing, I felt like I was, everybody knew me as Holla from Hot 97. Holla that was hanging out with all the celebs, and I had the coolest life. And then that was torn away from me.

And it's so hard when you tie yourself to something and not like what's inside of you. Like you tie yourself to like a brand. Like I tied myself to Hot and A7, you tied yourself to the NFL. So I want to talk about this depression piece that you were talking about. You have a really famous phrase called

suppression leads to depression or something along those lines that I've heard you say multiple times. Explain that because I think you isolated yourself from your family due to some embarrassment and things like that. Explain to us how that led to depression and how you got out of it, too. Absolutely. So, we can cut during the fall.

It was pretty tough because, I mean, I live in Fort Worth, Texas, and I mean, we know the statistics of people making it to NFL 0.00, whatever. And I mean, especially in your city, it's not many people, and everybody knows you. And so with me being back home in September, I couldn't go out because if I'm out, then people are gonna ask me questions like, why are you here, aren't you supposed to be in any?

Don't you have a game today? And so I started to keep myself sheltered in my room and my parents' house because I didn't want have a game today. And so I started to keep myself sheltered in my room and my parents house because I didn't want to face that reality. Often say this, I was running from the war in my life trying to win certain battles, and it doesn't work like that, or trying to win the war running for my battles in my life.

What I've learned is that anything that you don't face will end up really hunting you and finding you. Reality doesn't change. It just stays there and waits for you to come back or it chases you down. So I became quiet. I became introverted. I didn't get my pain of voice. And when you suppress just like anything, if you keep something, you know,

if you feel something up and you just never let it out, you have no releases in your life, then over time, what happens is that you explode. And for myself, you know, that's what was happening. You know, I wasn't exploding in public, but internally, I was thinking about suicide thoughts. I was questioning my faith and all these things. So I tell people all the time, and when you're going through a hard moment, it's okay to not be okay, but it's not okay to stay that way. And so you need to find out. I'll let find somebody that you can relate to because this is the thing to how I mean, we often think that our pain is special. And I'm not undermining anybody's pain out there, but there's somebody in the world that's been through,

which you've been through, or been through worse. And as long as you keep it silent, you will feel like this pain is unique to you. You feel like there's no answers. You're like person going through it. But as soon as I open my mouth up and open my voice and ask for the magic word help, I start to realize that there were other people who have been through what I was going through and gaming the guidance to be able to get through it. So I'm a big believer in not suppressing anything because if you suppress it, it doesn't go away. You just got to sleep with those things and those thoughts end up hunting you.

So you ended up talking to someone you asked for help. I know you have a new book, a recent book called Straight Up and you talk about a story of how you almost drowned when you were younger. Can you tell us that story and how it relates to asking for help? Yeah, for sure. So it was about maybe nine years ago, eight years ago

and I was doing a mullet run. And I don't know if you're familiar with those, but like the Spartan races and all that. So I was doing that and it's kind of make this story short. You know, I was the mullet when I ran before, I didn't prepare for it. And I was like, I'm an athlete, I'm gonna crush this. And I was actually a personal trainer at that time.

So I had a group of people, I ended up getting in last place. And so like, my pride was like, man. So the next race, I was like, I'm gonna train for I'm gonna go all out. So I do it and give everything that I have. And so at the end of this race, they had a, you got the climb up this wall

and they had a zip line. And I wasn't thinking about how deep the water is, how tired I was, how far the swim was, how cold the water was. So I ended up zip lineing and I dropped into the water. And soon as I hit the water, I knew I was in trouble because my body went in shock. Like I got a full body cramp on a riverhead,

one of those before, but I couldn't move. I couldn't swim and I knew I was in trouble, but I'm a man. Like I'm a athlete, I can't ask for help. I can't be the person out here that's like drowning. And so my first few helps were kind of like, the first one was silent. It was like, okay, people are gonna see me.

Nobody saw me. The second layer of help was like, I'm just gonna call like in a cool way, like, help. You know, raise my hand, try as much as I could. That didn't get the response. And so I literally got to a place where I was like screaming, like, help, help, help as much as I could as I was going under the water back on top of the water. And I guess I've been something alive, so I guess that's a spoiler. But somebody jumped in that wasn't even supposed to even jump in and they helped me and they got me out. But how

relate that to life is a lot of people are drowning in their life, but at the end of the day, nobody will save you unless you save yourself or so. What I mean by that is, yes, people will help you get out the water, but if you never call for help, but you don't even try to help yourself, then nobody's going to come to your rescue more than likely. That's what that taught me in life is like, hey, do the necessary things to keep fighting, but also raise your hand and say, hey, man, I need help with this.

Usually, help will be there at some point. I think that's a really powerful lesson. And I know that you lost your college roommate to suicide. And unfortunately, he didn't raise his hand to ask for help. So when it comes to those types of situations, when you don't necessarily know who in your life is struggling as hard as they're struggling. Like, what are the warning signs that people give off when it comes to struggling with their mental health?

And how can we help other people get the help that they need if we're worried about them? Like, yeah, that's a great question. So the best way I can tell you when it comes to people is patterns and who they are personality wise. So if you have a person that's an extroverted person and that all of a sudden they're super introverted, you have a person that's always around and they stop coming around. You have a person that, just when you're feeling in your heart, and I don't know how to explain this, but when you get around somebody and there's plenty of people that I've came across and people, even with me going through my struggles, like, man, I just feel like it's on my heart.

That's something, you know, something you're struggling with. Don't ignore that voice because even with my friend that committed suicide, I saw signs, you know, as I think back, I'm like, man, I saw a sign there, but I ignored it. I saw a sign there, but I ignored it. And so I would just tell people like, as you know, somebody in your life and you know, you know, just that person out and who they are, when you start to see changes, especially even the slightest change, but dramatic changes, there's something going on there. And the best way from that

I would tell people to help other people is just ask them certain questions. Or, matter of fact, don't even ask them if they're okay, because more people are going to be like, I'm all right, even when they're not, you know, take of fact, don't even ask them if they're okay because more people are gonna be like, I'm alright, even when they're not. You know, take that person, maybe take him for a hike, take him for a walk, maybe take him, if it's a faith thing, take him to church, have that conversation, open up about your life

because the people that helped me the most weren't the people that necessarily were like, giving me advice. It was the people that opened up about their struggle that made me comfortable to open up about mine. And so I do that often. If I see somebody like, Hey, man, you know what, I'm dealing with this in my life right now. And that opens up the plan field to be like, okay, I'm not being judged. It's a safe space for me to share what's going on in my life, too. I think that's really, really excellent advice. So let's take it back to when you were cut from the

NFL. I guess for the last time, how did you know it was the last time? Did you throw in the towel or was there no other option? Did you decide it was over for football? A little bit of both. The NFL, you probably get three years to prove yourself when you're trying to make a team. And I was on my third year

and I got cut from the red skins. The way I was cut, you know, it wasn't like you're not good enough. It was more like, hey, stay up here for a little while. We have to bring another guy on because somebody got hurt. We're going to bring you back. We really like you. And then the three weeks came around and it's like, hey, we changed our minds and numbers again. So after that, I continued to try to pursue the play football and there was this lead called the UFL They have some minor leads now except for all these different leads and I made that team and I was like, okay cool Well, this is gonna be my entry back into NFL. It's like a base like the minor leads for major leads for football and

I made the team and Within the next month the whole league folded. So at that moment I was like, okay, I went to arena football. I was like, okay, I'm gonna stay with arena and I'm gonna, but at that time in my life, do I think I could have made it back and had a chance probably so, but I didn't love it anymore. And I realized that I wasn't hanging on the football because I loved it. I was hanging on because I was afraid who I would be without it. And once I made that decision

in my life to let it go, I mean, obviously my life changed forever. But once I knew in my heart that I didn't love it no more, I knew that it was time for me to move on from it. I think that is so powerful. And I know that you often say a phrase that goes like, you are your purpose, right? Not that you have a purpose. You are your purpose. So I thought that you often say a phrase that goes like, you are your purpose, right? Not that you have a purpose, you are your purpose. So I thought that was so deep, and honestly, I resonated with that a lot.

So what is your purpose, and then how did you discover that purpose? Yeah, that's a great question. So I have a different spin when it comes to purpose. You know, because that's the question that I get all the time. My book, The Great Issue, it, actually a chapter that I rewrote, the last chapter I rewrote, because I was like, man, I have a different perspective towards it.

So I always say, I am purpose. And the reason I say that is because I'm going to use the word mistake, that's the word that comes up. The mistake that we make sometimes, that we tie our purpose to things that really aren't our purpose. So for example, I tie my purpose to football. Do I believe purpose, football was my purpose at that time in my life, but I lost it.

And so when I lost football, I felt like I lost my purpose. Purpose is something that I don't believe that you lose. Purpose isn't an external thing. I believe purpose is an internal gift. I believe purpose is who you are. You were born on purpose for purpose and you were set apart. And so when you have that mindset, you realize that I can take my life anywhere, anywhere and use my life for good. I believe

the purpose that we're all created is to bring betterment to this world. And so what a lot of people chase is placements. The NFL was my placement, not my purpose. Rehab time now, and me being a speaker is my placement, it's not my purpose. I might have a different placement down the line. And I don't want to get too in because we'll talk forever about this, but there's a few things that people tie their purpose to that they make a mistake in, right? And I'll just talk about a few. One people tie their purpose to profit. And they feel like, oh, And I'll just talk about a few. One, people tie their purpose to profit. And they feel like, Oh, if I'm not making enough money, this couldn't be my purpose. They tie their purpose to position. Oh, if I don't have the CEO title, if I'm not high up in my company, this couldn't be my purpose. Are they tied to price? If I'm not getting

recognition towards this, then this couldn't be my purpose. And I always like to tell people, man, your purpose is not tied to those things. Your purpose is tied to these things. Your past, the things that you've been through qualifies you to be able to help people get through other things. Another thing that I feel like purpose is tied into for people searching for is problems. What problems are you passionate about solving in this world? And so the more you can tap into those things, the more I feel like you can use your life more effectively to be able to leave your quote unquote purpose and find the right placements in your life for your life to be used most effectively.

Yeah. And I think that once you find, once you solve problems and you're passionate about it, the profit will come. Like that will always come down the line once those things are aligned. So totally agree with you there. So let's talk about how you ended up becoming a speaker because for my understanding, you are an introvert. You don't seem like it at all. I mean, for you guys who don't know Trent, he's got over 600,000 followers on YouTube. He's got two million followers on Instagram. He's up there on stages with, I think Tony Robbins and Dean Graziosi and folks like that. And so he is out there. And you would never know that he's up there on stages with, I think Tony Robbins and Dean Graziozi and folks like that. And so he is out there and you would never know that he's an introvert. So Trent, first of all, how did you get over being an introvert and how did you get your

foot in the door with speaking? I always preface this because to let people know I'm an introvert because I'm, and listen, maybe I'm an ambientvert. I think that's like the middle, you can be both. I'm not shy. So I tell people, don't confuse introvert with being shy. I'm just a really, I'm a person that's quiet, a deep thinker. But my dad, he all would, even to this day,

my dad trips out. My dad literally tells people, like if I was a bed man, I would definitely bet that Trent will be the least person to be a speaker out of my three boys, like hands down. And it's so funny because when my parents will hear me speak, they'll be like, man, is this is this Trent? So how I became a speaker, and I don't want to, this story take forever, but I got invited to speak at a minute.

Take your time. We want to learn from each other. Okay, cool. I got invited to speak at an event. So I've always been, I love music. So I wrapped. You can call entertainer, whatever it may. So I've always been, I love music. So I wrapped, you can call it entertainer, whatever it may be. I've always loved music.

I always love to speak on things that I was passionate about. And so my friend, his name is Jonathan Evans. That's a big church in Dallas, Dr. Tony Evans, Oakland Bible Fellowship. They had this youth event. It's called the KG event. It's like maybe two, three thousand kids it seemed like 20,000 to me. It's called the cage event. It's like maybe two three thousand kids It seemed like twenty thousand to me and he asked me to speak and I'm like

Bro like I can rap for you or something like that But I'm not being a speaker and he was like Trent He was like I've talked to you in private. I'm around you and his whole family You know his family. I mean his family's sisters and brothers. They're all phenomenal either artists or speakers He's like man. I'm around it all the time. You have a gift. He's like, I see something inside of you you don't see in yourself.

And at that time, I was like, man, I hope you see me getting science in it. I felt like something like that, not this. We go back and forth and to kind of fast-forward this story, I'm like, okay, I agree to it. And I have five minutes. At that time, it seemed like five hours to me. And the whole night before, I'll never have been like this

where I like prep my whole speech, I knew it, I knew my talking points, memorized it, every time I'm gonna kill it. So I get out there, I grab the microphone, you already know what happened. Like stage fright, I forget everything. And all I see is a bunch of teenagers. And I know those teenagers, because I was that guy looking at me like, what is this dude going to talk about? And why is he up here just being quiet? At that moment, I said these words, I still said these words even before I got

on this interview. I said, God, use me. And I always say you can sink or you can swim. That's my trigger word that has me moving to my confidence and my courage. I open my mouth and I speak for those five minutes. After I get off the stage, Majae, which is John, he says, bro, he was like, this is your gift. And all these kids come up to me after. And I was actually supposed to go to arena football the next day, by the way. But I called my coach, I said I'm not going.

And that was the moment where I realized that this was what I was called to do. This was my placement at this time in my life. And I want to be clear with people. I didn't have a big following on and maybe 15, 10 people are watching my videos. I just started rehab time. I wasn't the person that the world sees today, but I walked into it and it changed my life forever. Literally within the next six months, video started to go viral and this whole rehab time thing started happening and it started with me walking into my biggest fear which was public

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That's so incredible. It's so incredible how you weren't naturally good at that. And you kind of like stepped into your power and realized that you just want to help people and that kind of gave you the motivation and the confidence actually go out and do it. And you left behind like years and years of work. And so I wanted to dig deeper on that because you spent your whole life preparing to be a football player. And it must have been very difficult to then just turn around and change careers.

And I'm sure there's lots of people who, you know, they may have gone to school for years and years to become a doctor and then change their mind. And it's such a difficult decision. So how did you like make that decision in your head to just pivot and do you have any regrets that you focused so much on football in your younger life?

Or do you feel like that helps you now, like what you learned? I believe everything is building you. I think everything is building you for your next level if you allow it to. So the thing I tell athletes is, man, there's no better, I feel avenue that builds confidence, perseverance, emotional resilience and sports, that builds teamwork.

And if you think that your losing something, you will never focus on everything that it gave you and the gains that you have. So like for me as a speaker, you see the athlete come out, you see that, you see the, there's no, I tell people, I tell people, are you scared to speak in front of people? I was like, yeah, but now,

which pressure is third down in front of 100,000 people, and you gotta catch the ball. You know, everybody's dependent on you. So it prepared me for these pressure moments when I looked back. And so the thing I would tell people is just think about that. How is those losses, quote unquote, how did those things really build you for your next

level? What can you take from that? It might be a relationship that you lost. What can you take from that to make you better for your next relationship or your next job, et cetera. How I made the decision, it's funny because I may like a pack like what God, I was like, man, I'm going to call three people, three sets of people and you gotta go three for three It was over three pretty much. I called my coach. He didn't understand it

I called my friends they didn't understand it and then I called my mother and She didn't understand it at first until I told her mom I'd never felt so I remember like it was yesterday I said I never felt so much confidence in like it was yesterday, I said, I never felt so much confidence in the midst of my fear. Ever. And I was like, it's just the feeling mom that I know this is it. I can't explain it, but I know this is it, especially when I even know sometimes where

the words come from and when I'm speaking. And she said, baby, that is a calling on your life that I've already seen when you were younger. And so that's even I can go back to that because ever since I was four and five I'm my mother's younger son. So I was the one going her everywhere to conferences, to Crusade, she was big in her faith and it would be people that would always speak over my life and say you're gonna be a great speaker. My dad's a pastor, you're gonna be a great speaker. My dad's a pastor, you're gonna be a great this

or a great that. But I was ignoring that call because I was so focused on what I wanted to do that I didn't care about what I was called to do. So I kept sending it to voicemen, like, nah, I ain't ready for it. I'm not a speaker, I'm an introvert. My past is too bad.

All those things I was talking to myself out of it, like so many of us do. And by me finally answering the call because my mother said those words, it changed my life forever. So I just want to tell the listeners, you probably have had Collins on your life that you've been allowing your insecurities, your fears, your doubts to make you send that call to voicemail. And what happens is there comes a point I believe where the calling stops calling and that calling finds life in someone else. So answer it. Even if you're

like you're not prepared for it, answer it because the journey will always reveal what you need once you take that first step. That's really inspiring. Okay, so you start rehab time and I guess you started it all really with this YouTube channel, right? And so when did you, first of all, I guess like were your friends and families naysaying this? Were they saying it's not really possible? Like you're never gonna get any traction or were people supportive of you when you started? So my family was supportive of me for sure. My family, I have a close family and I can sit in a family blood and just people that are really tight with me, they didn't understand it,

but they still supported it. And then I had the people that were like, you're crazy, like what are you doing? You're gonna be nothing without football. Not those exact words, but those seeds were being planted in my life when I first started. So nobody really got it.

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of podcast magazine January 2021. If you talk, thank you, thank you. If you talk to my best friends, they act like I'm a nobody. Like you know what I mean? Like my best friends that I've been close with throughout my whole, since high school to now, I see them like every weekend, whatever. When I talk about my podcasts,

I feel like they roll their eyes. I know they're not gonna listen to this as why I'm able to talk about it because they don't listen to my podcast anyway, right? So what is it about the people who are closest to us that they aren't able to see us for who we are and what we've achieved? Like it's so funny, like the way that I'm treated with like my new friends from Clubhouse, for example, and when I have dinner with them compared to my best

friends is so much different. So talk to us about that and do you experience similar things? Oh, that's such a deep question. And I can talk for hours. I feel like this is kind of like why people come to me to be honest with you, just knowing your circle and then your environment. I always say your environment is everything. And just to answer your question, I did a podcast over this and I talked about why your support system doesn't support you.

And just to kind of touch on a few of those things to help people understand it. Number one, I think one of the main reasons that, especially when it's people that truly care about you, they don't understand what their support means to your journey. And what I mean by that is that, and this is saying more about them,

they don't feel like, oh, if I share the podcast, it's going to make that big of a difference, right? If I show up for you, it's just me. So they don't understand what their support, the effect that their support has on the person. And we all know, like, even just, hey, I shared your podcasts or I listened to it or I did this or I did even the smallest form of support means a lot when it comes from people that you truly love. Another reason is that, and this is probably the main one, some people are too close to you to see your greatness. The things that we are familiar with, we become desensitized to. So just think about, think about the things that you have in your life. Like not people,

but just things that are super valuable, but you're around it so much, right, that it becomes, it loses its power because you're used to it. And I relate that to people in your life, right? So the people that have been around you since high school, middle school, you're just holletin' them, right? That's all you are to them. I'm just Trent, and I get that, and honestly, I wanna be carried as that. Like, I don't want you to put me on a pedestal, but they're too close to you to see just how great that you are,

and a lot of people don't believe greatness can be that close to them. That's why it's super convenient to go support a celebrity that you don't know. Because for one, you don't see their imperfections. So somebody that's close to you, they see your imperfections. And we think that success, we think that, as I call it, legendariness, doesn't have imperfections. And so you might be the person, so for me, I might preach, hey, be consistent, and it might

be a person in my life that sees me be inconsistent for a day or two. Not that I'm a hypocrite, it's just that it's real life. And so they might train ain't who he say he is, or XYZ ain't who they say they are. But when you see a celebrity, you just see an highlight reel, right? You just see in the Instagram reel, the filter version that they're showing the world.

So it's easier to go support them than it is to go support somebody that's around you. But I want to say this too, as I wrap this up on this topic, so I can talk for hours on this. Don't let that be your excuse to not go be great. Their lack of support has nothing to do with your level of success. I know you want their support, but I can guarantee that she don't need their support. Let me ask you this question. When all the people who listen to your podcasts, what percentage of those people are probably strangers?

Like literally 100%. Like only my mom and like my sister listen to my podcast. Nobody else does. It's so, it's mind blowing when sometimes when I think about it or like random people that anyone like middle school listen to my podcast. Nobody else does. It's so, it's mind-blowing when sometimes when I think about it, or like random people that anyone like middle school listened to my show, like, you know, like just like people who are now strangers. And you just got the cover of a podcast? January 2021, I was cover a podcast magazine. I'm one of the top female podcasters in the

world. And the people closest to me don't even, they don't even acknowledge it, like, will be out. And people might recognize me or say, like, oh, I've heard of your show, and my friends don't like batting I last, you know what I mean? They don't, like, you'd think that they would like brag about it or be proud of it, that their friend has accomplished that. But it's not, like, to your point,

they can't see it, or maybe they feel a little bit jealous or inadequate, or they don't wanna acknowledge it, because they don't wanna get the attention when we're out and make it all about me, because I have so much stuff, I could be like, oh, I just interviewed Matthew McConaughey, like, I have lots to talk about, you know what I mean? So, I don't know, I think it is what it is,

to your point, it doesn't make my success less than it is, but it does make me feel lonely. Like, you know what I mean? Is it lonely being an influencer for you in that regard? Where like, I feel like sometimes it's only, I can only relate with other people who are doing similar things. Because I feel like other people don't necessarily relate

to what I'm going through and the closest people to me don't want to acknowledge what's going on. Do you feel lonely as an influencer? I've had my seasons, for sure, of that where I felt like, especially in my growth years. I mean, I'm still growing, for sure, but especially, you know, I think at the beginning and towards the, even the middle of it. And there's times and seasons, but I felt that because a lot of people didn't understand it. And when you elevate your life, right?

To another level, and you move forward towards something else, you have to realize everybody that was in your previous level or in your previous season is not gonna go with you. So now you have to find kind of a new tribe, right? In a different environment. And so I've been blessed in this space to be able to have, you know, different pockets of people in my life. So I have my friends that, that I don't

expect them to be in a personal development. Nor do I hold them to that, right? And we just, our friends just, just friends on, on just the level of like life. But then I have my people that are in, to read books and podcast and growth and I can get around them and be inspired and held accountable. I have that pocket of people. And it took a little bit longer

to find that pocket, that environment. But it was necessary. And I just feel like when you walk into that space, you become a magnet and you attract certain mindsets that you need. But yeah, you're gonna go through periods of loneliness. But I feel like those are necessary because during those periods of loneliness, you get to learn how to be self-reliant,

you get to learn how to be emotional and intelligent, you get to learn how to know yourself as you move forward and progress your life. Yeah, 100%. I totally agree. So speaking on relationships, how can you tell when it's time to like burn a bridge? I know you have a whole chapter in your book.

I think straight up called Burning Bridges. So how do we know when it's time to burn a bridge and walk away from a relationship? I do believe burning bridges is necessary. And the reason I say that is because there's certain bridges your life cannot afford to go back to. And I'll leave it with that. If you know that there's certain bridges your life cannot afford to go back to. And I'll leave it with that. If you know that there's no change, I always say never quit on progression. If you know there's no change, it hasn't been changed.

You know this is not serving you, or you're not serving them, then it's time for you to burn that bridge because when you keep bridging your life that needs to be burned, what happens is it drains you, what happens is it brings stress to your life. I like to call stress sicknessging your life that need to be burned, what happens is it drains you, what happens is it brings stress to your life. I like to call stress sickness to your life.

And it prevents you from building the bridges that need to be built. And so if you ask yourself, this is, does this bridge, where is this bridge leading me to? That's the question. Where is this bridge leading me to? Because bridges are leading you somewhere. Either you to a greater you, a better you, or to a lesser you,

or to a destructive version of yourself And if you can 100% say it's not leading me towards the greatest version of myself or a better progressive version of myself That it might be time to to limit The interactions with that person or people or with that circle Because it's not going to lead you to where you want to go in your life So I think that's the question you asked yourself. Where is this bridge leading me to? And whatever answer you come up with, you know, that's your truth.

And I think it doesn't have to be dramatic. I don't think it has to be some dramatic thing where you break up with someone or you even let them know that you're distancing yourself. You just start to distance yourself from people who don't make you feel. My gauge is like, if I hang out with you and I feel like leaving or I feel like after it words, I feel worse than I did before I hung out with you, then I feel like, well, it's maybe it's time to not spend as much time with you because you're hurting my mental health.

And I don't feel positive when I'm around you, you know? Absolutely. There you go. I think it's that simple. We just got to be able to listen to those truths and then make decisions moving forward and accordingly. So me and you both lost a parent last year. You lost your mother.

I lost my father last May. I think you lost your mother last March. And so you're no stranger to pain. You know, there was a lot of pain. I'm sure when you left the NFL and those dreams and come true and I'm. There was a lot of pain, I'm sure, when you left the NFL and those dreams didn't come true, and I'm sure there was a lot of pain when you lost your mother. So how did you get over all these different,

really painful moments in your life? Did you come up with some sort of like a recipe to get over pain and can you share that with us? Yeah, and you gain an angel. That's what I want to tell you. I'm very, you know, I don't use the word sorry for your loss because I feel like you didn't lose anything you gain. And so I want to tell you that. So I'm still in that season, you know, I lost my mom two months ago. So I'm still in that season of grieving and moving through. But I don't think it's about getting over, you know, I don't think it's about getting over the situation.

I don't want to get over of my mom no longer being here, but I think it's about getting through it. And as you get through it, being able to change your perspective. And so for me, what's helped me in these last few weeks, these last few months, is changing my perspective and making my perspective, my power and my prison. And the first thing that happened when I've lost people and went through these emotional things, I mean, so two months ago, you might have known this, but I lost my mom two days after that, my daughter went to ICU, then a few weeks later, after that, I lost my grandmother.

So that all happened in the month of March. And it was tough. And people have always asked, like, how did you get through it? I said, well, I'm still getting through it. But what's helped me is focusing on appreciation. And I know that word has used a lot. But depression is often the absence of appreciation. And so the first thing to happen with my mom,

like we all do, we go on to the motive regret. Damn, and I wish I would have did this. I wish I would have, I wish I would have did this. I wish I would have, I wish I wish I wish. And that keeps you in a place where you'll never heal from. It's a prison, regret is poison to the soul. And so every time I have those I wish moments, I immediately disrupt that and say, man, I'm glad I got to, I'm glad I got to do this with my mom. I'm glad I got, she got to see the book.

I'm glad she, and it helps me focus on the beautiful moments with the people that I've lost. And what happens is, they become more alive in your life than they've ever been. You brought up my friend and committed suicide. I wouldn't be talking to you right now if that wouldn't have happened because he was the reason why I started what I did.

And so I would tell everybody that's lost the love one or that's going through a season of grief, honor that person. And the way you honor that person is how you lived your life. They planted seeds, whether those seeds were seeds of limitation, whatever it may be, I don't know the relationship you might have with your parents or your friends or your

grandparents, but they ran their race. And you have the baton in your hand. And you don't want, you know, I always think about my mom like, she would be highly disappointed in me. I can hear her voice saying like, Trent, you stopped running your race because I'm no longer here. I've been preparing you for this moment since you've been born. I've prepared you for this by every seed that I planted in your life. Now it's time you to go run your race and you go run a hell of a race to make sure that when you get the

button off to your kids, they have a lead on life like I gave you. And so I'm always thinking about that. And that's helped me be able to get through these moments. Do I still have hard moments? Absolutely. Every day is beautiful, but I still have bad days every day. I mean, bad moments every day. But I put that moment in a certain context to be able to help me get through. And I'm sure your mom is like beyond proud of you. You are so successful, so impressive, so inspirational.

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So I'm going to switch topics here and hopefully I'm able to phrase this correctly. It has to do with the news and everything going on in the world. So I'm Palestinian and there's lots going on in terms of human rights and everything going on overseas and Israel and everything like that. And as somebody who has a platform, it's been very difficult for me because I feel so torn because I know what's right. You know, there's occupation and a part-hide going on in Israel and all these crazy things. But I also have sponsors like OLA and talk space and all these sponsors that I represent. So I feel like I am unable to speak my truth all the time.

And so I know that you're a black man who has a lot of influence, a ton of influence, like if not the most popular black man in the personal development space right now, and you're on stages with lots of white men all the time. And I always see you as like the one black guy with dreads on a stage with a bunch of white guys, right? And it must be a lot of pressure because I know that you know you have a huge platform

and that you need to help just in general this movement of people having equal rights no matter what race they are black, they are a bit, whatever it is. And so I'm sure that you can relate when all of this was happening with black lives matter and everything like that. Did you feel any sort of pressure like you felt like you didn't know what you could say or what you could do? And I just say as little or as much as you want

But I think that this is an important conversation because I think that there's a lot of people who have a platform And in general just don't know what to do because they feel like their hands are always tied in terms of how open They can be about what they truly feel and how they want to kind of move the world in the direction that they want to move the world. I respect it and I appreciate you bringing it up. So I'm gonna try to not bounce around too much. But the first thing for me is that I got to be true to who I am and I don't want that to be an excuse for anybody not to you know just, just, oh, I'm just true to who I am and don't say anything.

But you have to be true to who you are as a person. And one thing about me, and this might not be true for everybody, but I don't allow outside pressure, especially from the internet, to make me speak up on some things that either one, I might rate to speak on, either two, I don't understand, I have lack of knowledge of, or just to speak on things that I don't even care about. And not saying that I don't care

about important issues in the world, but even like doing the president thing and stuff like that, like, Trent, what's my stance? And I always tell people this, my stance is how I live my life. So when you look at my life and you see what I'm around, you see that I have friends of different races. You see that my wife is Filipino.

You see that I uplift women and give them the platforms that they may need to be able to, for if it's gender equality. You know, so many things, man, that I'm around that you see my life and what it represents. And so I tell people, yeah, I can go on here on I can make an Instagram post and say something and sit back and kick my feet up and not do nothing because there's a lot of social media help, but it's not a real world help. And so I always tell the influencer is so when the Black Lives Matter, you know, George Foylash here, I told people a lot of people call my phone.

A lot of white influencers call my phone or hit me and say, trend, what do I say, what do I do? I said, listen, if you're going to take a stance on it, take a stance, but don't just take that stance because it's trending right now. Don't take that stance because people are putting pressure on you to talk about something that you don't even understand or even care about. Like just be true to you and who you are. So on you to talk about something that you don't even understand or even care about. Like just be true to you and who you are. So if you're gonna take that stance,

understand what comes with it. And it's not about online. So I told them, I say, you know what, instead of just posting online, go to an inner city and go give back that way. Go do something to where you're actually making a difference. And I believe conversation is necessary I believe I'm not saying you know you shouldn't post anything

I believe dialogue and conversation is necessary But I think what's more important is how you live your life and the reflection of that and so I told my friends like You worry about people calling you racist, but your life shows that you're not and Which you stand for which you believe. Your track record shows who you are and which you're doing how you live your life. So I'm big on that. And I know that's not like the popular thing to say to people because I get it all the time like man, I'm not going to allow anybody to make the put pressure on me to make me speak up on some things that is just words. Come down and see how I live and what I do on an everyday basis and then you'll see what

I truly believe in what I stand for and it's not a trend. I don't like the whole, I'm going to care about this because everybody on social media is caring about it and when it's not popular no more, I'm going to go on to the next trend. I'm just not with that. I'm out like, if it's your life and who you are, stand on that. Stand on what you believe and speak about it. I made a spoken word called the Vata States of America, I never saw it.

I got so much flack for that, but it was all I loved. What was it about? So it was about just that, like how we're divided and literally the message was this, love trumps all. We're all gonna disagree. And one of my quotes from there was like, the problem that we have in this country, just in general, is that we listen to disagree, right?

We listen just to reply. We don't listen to understand. And it was just about that. Like everybody is going to be different. Everybody's perspective is different. If I was raised somewhere where, you know, in a certain environment, I would believe that because that's what I'm a product of. You can change that. but I always respect people

because I'm like, okay, this is what they were brought up in, this is what they were around, this is what their parents raised them on. Let me try to understand this person. So then I can maybe help this person. But we live in a world where nobody wants to understand, everybody just wants to prove themselves right and we still get it wrong.

So that's what that was about. And people still didn't like it, but I didn't care because I knew the message was out of love and it wasn't to separate. It was to say, let's have conversation and understand we're all different human beings. Yeah, so that's helpful. So basically you're saying like,

you, no matter what the trend is, you know, you do you, you kind of show who you are through your actions and through what you do every day and not just what's set on social media that you sharing your story or repost whatever your black or blue squares whatever, whatever squares you decide to put up that day. Yeah, and listen, if that's, that's what I'm saying, if that's your, if you feel convicted to do it, do it. So like every now and then I might speak up on some stuff because I'm convicted to do it, but I am not doing it because I'm pressured by somebody in my inbox saying, oh, you don't care about this because you didn't speak on it.

Now I'm going to speak on somebody I don't know about or I don't even, I'm not convicted to speak on, and now you're speaking out of pocket. You know, so that's kind of my message to everybody. Like, if you're convicted to do it, do it. And I think your point about educating yourself is key. Like before you speak on any topic, educate yourself. Listen, like, read, you know,

have these conversations with other people to your point, educate yourself, super important. Okay, so the last question I ask all my guests, and this is your opportunity to give us a piece of advice that you haven't said yet on the podcast, is what is your secret to profiting in life? I gotta go with understanding what truly matters to you, who matters and what matters,

and saying that that is a branch off of the tree of fulfillment. Fulfillment is everything. When you do the things that truly fulfill you, then you are having abundance of life holistically. And so focus on that. Don't focus on the things that bring you notoriety, bring you success, bring you whatever. And my definition of success is fulfillment. And so if you can say, man, this is truly fulfilling me, even if it's unpopular, even if it's not the trend, even if you don't get any recognition, even if you don't get followers from it, you can live a life of fulfillment. That's a great life because that life equals a life of peace. And I think peace is what we all seek for in different forms as we try to navigate this world.

What does fulfillment feel like? What does that feel like to you? So fulfillment feels to me that nothing is missing, that nothing is missing, and I'm whole, and I'm at peace, and I'm not feeling anxiety because I know everything is going to be all right and I know if I left this world today I wouldn't have any regrets because I live such a fulfilled life and I did the things that I thought I was called to do and I live the life that I felt like I

was called to live. That's what it means to me. You know my mother taught me when you have purpose When you have peace and when you have presence when you're present, you know live in presence Always be in the moment, you know put down your cell phone and look what's in front of your face live in purpose You know that calling in your life Live in peace whether that's nature whether that's disconnecting whether that's meditation prayer When you have those three Ps, you have fulfillment. And so I often do that checking with myself every week with those three Ps.

How is my Ps this week? Did I live in presence this week with my family, those that I love, that I live in purpose this week? If I know if I can say, yeah, I did, I know I'm moving to that fulfillment that I see. Mm, I love that. The three Ps, thank you so much. And where can our listeners go to learn more about you and everything that you do? to that fulfillment that I see. I love that. The three P's. Thank you so much.

And where can our listeners go to learn more about you and everything that you do? Absolutely. Just add Trent Shelton, any social media site. I have a podcast called Straight Up and Trent Shelton.com. Thank you so much, Trent. This is an awesome conversation. Thank you so much. Thank you.

I appreciate you. Thanks for listening to Young and Profiting Podcast. If you haven't yet, make sure you subscribe to this podcast so you always know when we drop a new episode. I hope you enjoyed this conversation with Trent. I certainly did, and the biggest learning for me today is that it's okay to pivot. And sometimes pivoting and letting go of an old dream is the best possible thing that you could do for yourself.

Let's take Trent for example. He grew up thinking he was going to be a successful football player. He spent his whole young adult life training and spending time to become the best football player he could possibly be. It's what everybody knew him for, it's what all his friends and family were most proud of him for, it was his identity. But his dream wasn't panning out in the NFL and that must have been so tough.

But it wasn't until he let go of that dream and he was open to new opportunities that he actually became a true success. When his friend offered him that speaking engagement at a church, he didn't just pass it by and didn't just say he was too scared to give it a try, he went for it. He went on that stage, he spoke in front of 5,000 people and he gave it a try and it sparked a new passion for him,

and he realized that he was meant to help inspire others. And then he started a YouTube channel, and he had no experience creating videos or creating content, but he just went for it. He learned along the way, he took a chance. And then now fast forward a few years later, he's got 50 million people across all his social channels. He's one of the most sought after speakers in the world. And it's all because he was open to new opportunities and he decided to take a chance. And he was willing to pivot and believed in himself enough to pivot. So when it comes to dreams, letting go can sometimes feel like giving up, but I want you guys to understand that giving up is not abandoning yourself.

It's honoring yourself. And I think that one of the best talents that anybody can have is knowing when they should trade in an old goal for a new one. And then not treating that goal that didn't pan out as a failure, but rather looking back and appreciating what you learned during that experience and extracting what you can from that experience

that didn't work out to then use again later in the future. So Trent is using stuff that he learned in the sports world and NFL to help him as a speaker. It's not directly related, but certainly his work ethic, his dedication, all that kind of stuff now helps him later in life. So I want you to walk away from this episode realizing that sometimes you need to let go

of something good to get something better. And at the same time, your failures are often a blessing in disguise. And you have to be willing to take action. You have to be open to the opportunities that surround you. That's also a big part of it. Nothing is gonna fall on your lap. And if you like this interview, I want you guys to go check out my throwback interview number

45 with Jonas Koffler. He's the author of Hustle, the power to charge your life. Here's a sneak peek of that episode. The heart should be one of the huge pieces that guides us or moves us forward. If you think about what really drives you and motivates you, deep down I think people, everyone wants a sense of validation

or recognition or respect. Those things are vitally important, a dignity. And the piece about the heart, the theme is very simply packed up in the first unseen law of hustle, which is do something that moves Right, so this idea of movement energy physical manifestation that Only comes from the heart the heart you know pumps are blebbed through a body in oxygen allows us to To do the things that we need to do in the daily basis But so many of us are out of touch with that and frustrated. And so I think the thing is, you start at the center,

which is the heart and the heart of life and the heart of the experience is, to do something that charges your life with a sense of energy, enthusiasm, and for us entrepreneurs, this idea that we can actually change the world, right? In our own small way. And that all is baked into this idea of doing something that moves you.

So for those who are feeling stuck, tap back into the heart, get out of your comfort zone, and start doing something that moves you, and maybe just place some small bets on yourself. Again, if you want to tap back into your own heart and your own purpose, I encourage you to check out number 45, hustle your way to success with Jonas Koffler. And if you haven't subscribed to Young & Profiting Podcast yet, what are you waiting for? Make sure you do that so you can be alerted every time we drop a new episode. And we love getting your Apple Podcast reviews. Reviews are the best way to thank us here on Young & Profiting Podcasts and they act

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