Young and Profiting with Hala Taha - Wim Hof, The Iceman: Hack Your Biochemistry | E175

Episode Date: June 20, 2022

Imagine you could voluntarily activate your autonomic nervous system and immune system response and consciously control your response to stress and pain. Now, imagine you would do all this through a c...ombination of breathwork, meditation, and cold therapy. This is the basis of the Wim Hof Method, a method touted by thousands and backed by science as having incredible physical and mental health benefits. The Wim Hof Method was founded by Wim Hof, a Dutch extreme athlete, motivational speaker, and wellbeing influencer, known as "The Iceman” for a long-list of incredible feats involving his ability to withstand extreme cold, including 26 Guinness World Records. Wim asserts that anyone can master the Wim Hof method and unlock the incredible health benefits that come with it. In this episode, Hala and Wim chat about the science behind the Wim Hof Method and how to do it. They talk about Wim’s background and his first experiences with the cold and breath work, and they chat about the purpose in life and how to tap into your intuition.    Topics Include: - Perspective on the purpose of life  - Role of the body vs the role of the soul  - What’s wrong with always feeling comfortable?  - Wim’s mission in life - What was Wim like as a teenager?  - How do you know what your intuition is?  - Is this the next human evolution?  - How did Wim Hof become the Iceman?  - How did he figure out the breathing aspect? - The importance of deep breathing  - What is the Wim Hof breathing method?  - What is adrenaline’s role?  - How is the Wim Hof Method scientifically proven?  - Wim’s perspective on religion  - Wim’s actionable advice  - Wim’s secret to profiting in life - And other topics… Wim Hof is a Dutch extreme athlete, motivational speaker, and wellbeing influencer. He is known as "The Iceman.” Wim earned this nickname after setting 26 Guinness world records, including swimming under ice, running a half marathon above the Arctic Circle barefoot, submerging himself in ice for 1 hour and 52 minutes, and climbing Mount Kilimanjaro in just shorts and sandals. Wim Hof is the creator of the Wim Hof method, a combination of breathing, cold therapy, and commitment to give you the tools to take control over your body. Wim is on a mission to share the potential health benefits of his method, working with scientists around the world to prove that his techniques work.  He is the author of several books including, The Wim Hof Method: Activate Your Full Potential.  Sponsored By: Shopify - Go to shopify.com/profiting, for a FREE fourteen-day trial and get full access to Shopify’s entire suite of features Thrive Market - Join Thrive Market today and get $80 in free groceries! That’s ThriveMarket.com/YAP to get $80 in free groceries! Wise - Join 13 million people and businesses who are already saving, and try Wise for free at Wise.com/yap GEM - Now get 30% off your first order when you go to dailygem.co/YAP.  iTrust Capital - Sign up today and receive a $100 funding bonus when you open and fund an account. Visit iTrustCapital.com to start investing today. Resources Mentioned: Wim’s Website: https://www.wimhofmethod.com/ Books by Wim Hof: https://www.amazon.com/Wim-Hof/e/B078GR8G49  Wim’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wim-hof-691a0026/ Wim’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iceman_hof/ Wim’s Twitter:https://twitter.com/Iceman_Hof Wim’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/icemanwimhof/ Connect with Young and Profiting: Hala’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/htaha/     Hala’s Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/yapwithhala/     Hala’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/yapwithhala  Clubhouse: https://www.clubhouse.com/@halataha   Website: https://www.youngandprofiting.com/  Text Hala: https://youngandprofiting.co/TextHala or text “YAP” to 28046 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:19 had to gain influence, the art of entrepreneurship, and more. If you're smart and like to continually improve yourself, hit the subscribe button, because you'll love it here at Young & Profiting Podcast. This vegan app, we're chatting with the Iceman Wim Hof. Wim is a Dutch extreme athlete who holds 21 Guinness World Records. He earned his nickname, The Iceman, for his ability to withstand extreme
Starting point is 00:01:45 cold stunts like running a half marathon above the Arctic Circle barefoot, wearing only shorts, and swimming underneath ice for 66 meters or 216 feet. But Wim's not just testing the limits when it comes to the cold. In 2011, he let scientists inject him with an E. coli endotoxin that would make anyone seriously ill and he proved He could control his autonomic nervous and immune system response and fight off the dangerous bacteria Howdy-do it. Wim practices a combination of cold exposure and breathing techniques called the Wim Hof method It enables him to connect more deeply with his body and control his physiology. Women is groundbreaking method has been featured on Rolling Stone, ABC, National Geographic, The Wall Street Journal, and Ellen, and he is a host of celebrity fans, like Tim Ferris,
Starting point is 00:02:35 Tom Cruise, and Oprah to name a few. In this episode, women I chat about how he discovered the Wim Hough Method and he breaks down what it is and how it works. We then dive into his perspective on the purpose of life and the role of the soul versus the role of the body. We learn why staying comfortable is preventing us from understanding the true power of our bodies and we gain insights on the ways WIMH has scientifically proven to reverse chronic illness and improve mental and physical health with his revolutionary WIMHALF method. If you want to hack your biochemistry so you can lead healthier, happier life, take a deep
Starting point is 00:03:11 breath and listen up to my epic conversation with the Iceman WIMHALF. Hey WIM, welcome to Young & Profiting Podcast. Thank you. So happy that you're here. This might be one of my most anticipated interviews so far this year, and you are a living legend known as the Ice Man. And this is because of your dozens of world records involving the cold, including climbing Mount Everest and shorts, and running an ice and snow half marathon barefoot.
Starting point is 00:03:44 You've taken the scientific world by storm and you've helped humans reimagine the possibilities of understanding our brains and the conscious control of our innermost bodily functions and systems. And you seem to be truly enlightened and have tapped into ancient wisdom through your work. And so my plan is to cover a lot of ground in the next hour. And I wanna be sure all of my young and profitors hear your perspective on the meaning
Starting point is 00:04:07 of life, the creation of life, and our purpose as humans. I want to get some background into how you became the ice man and all the revolutionary findings that have come from your breathing techniques and the scientific studies that back it up. And I also want to understand how you envision the future of mankind. So we've got a lot of things to cover, So I want to get straight into some of your beliefs. I want to start off with your perspective on the purpose of life. You've said in the past that the brain stem is the purpose of life. I want to understand what you mean by that. And what
Starting point is 00:04:37 do you think the purpose of life is as humans? Yes. Brain stem is the reptilian brain. The purpose of life is life itself. Without a life, there is nothing. So, it all started the development of mammals, of reptiles in the past as the brainstem. The brainstem knows cold, it knows heat, it knows fear, it knows food, it knows freeze, but it doesn't think. It is not a really feeling, but the purpose of life as being just life is there. And then we developed our brains into a limbic system upon that, which is the mammalian brain and then the neocortex, which is the human brain. And now we are able to think about things and become conscious. Consciousness means expanding neurology inside the brain. And that makes our existence as beings, suddenly able to alleviate the gravity where we came in.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And I have a consciousness growing that transcends the physical powers of this world and goes into a higher consciousness. But before that happens, we need to have an understanding of how to control these mechanisms inside the brain to evolve from being in this world into consciousness, which is entangled to a consciousness which is able to transcend or to become enlightened. Because in the end, our purpose is to be light, not dark, light, not heavy. So while we're on the topic of the meaning of life, I think you have a really unique perspective on the role of the body versus the role of the soul. Could you explain that to us? Yes, the body is the absolutely the vehicle of our soul.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Without a soul, we think in one day. It's because of the grace of the soul that you are smiling and looking at me and being conscious and so beautiful, you are beautiful, but the soul in the people all is beautiful. It is the light itself. So in that body, it is the light itself. So in that body it's able to express and I've been studying my body's reactions as well as the limits of what a body and mind is able to do, say in an aggressive environment, the cold. The cold is really the dark.
Starting point is 00:07:27 It's dark, it's cold, there is no life, and testing my light, my power of my mind, and body to go into that matter, and to see how far I can get. And then, going in there, I found out we have a soul. We have a soul that is able to step into areas of our brain and body, which is far more than in science is stated. And this is what I've learned by going into nature, into the unknown, past my fears, to venture, to want to know what is the soul.
Starting point is 00:08:11 The soul is like the unlimited power of the mind. And our physical body is like the radio who picks up the waves, the resonance. And the unlimited power of the mind is the neural a neurological connection we can have as being the receiver and sander of what is the unlimited power of the mind around us. It's all there. Only the my body has been tested and gone past our conditioned way of thinking and doing, enabling me to find things, thought of in science impossible like how to beat disease, how to beat depression, how to beat knowing physiological laws and stay for hours in freezing
Starting point is 00:09:09 cold and have no temperature change within myself or how to go into the deep at will, into the deepest of the brain and the deepest of the bone marrow into the deepest of the DNA. This was all thought. It's impossible for humans to do that willfully, but I know my body. I have been testing it out. Me, myself, not going according the books, but according my intuition, the books, but according my intuition, my instinct, and that brought me exactly where I want to be, to see and feel the presence of something that is more than thinking. That right now is present within me, and it enlightens me, and I'm able to enlighten
Starting point is 00:10:02 millions of people now. So something that's really interesting, like you were just saying before that the cold is like the dark, right? You purposely make yourself uncomfortable. And here we are in modern day age, we're wearing clothes, we keep ourselves warm, we've got temperature control, AC, heat, we're always comfortable, right? We're always wearing clothes, we never feel feel the environment what's wrong with that? That means we de-stimulate our organs. It's the greatest of organs is our skin.
Starting point is 00:10:34 So when we do not stimulate our skins receptors Neural receptors temperature receptors pain receptors, it's all in the skin. It's millions of them. We always cover them up. So what kind of information do you give your body inside when it is de-stimulated, when it is always sort of the same?
Starting point is 00:11:03 There is no danger, there is no deep stimulation and that then is not able to stimulate and or make a grow internal neurological networks. That is also a known in science that people are able to regulate their internal neurological networks like the six cents, the seven cents and the eighth cents. It's all new and proprioception in the inter-reception and the six cents which is intuition and instinct. Those are internally but if we cover up our bodies, then of course something will not work fully. And then we think when we keep on going into this comfort zone behavior, then we will have to confront ourselves with modern day problems, comfort zone, behavioral problems. And that is the cardiovascular related diseases. For example, this killer number one in our society.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Because in our skin, all the 125,000 kilometers, like 75,000 kilometers, like 75,000 kilometers, miles of cardiovascular channels, they end up in the skin when they are not stimulated, the internal vascular system is not stimulated as well. And a joint with the cardiovascular system, 175,000 miles in each and every one of us, a million of little muscles. So if you don't stimulate them, they become mediocre and the heart needs to pump harder and it becomes stressful.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And then we ask, why do we have burnouts? While we are able to run people to the moon and to Mars, and I don't know what I'll do, highly civilized and all amazing technology, and they're not being able to regulate our happiness, strength and health, to be strong and vivid as we should. And we are built to be strong and vivid and to gesture can creative and always positively radiant. We are built like that. Only we de-stimulated our own potential. We de-stimulated our capacity. And that's why we are facing so many
Starting point is 00:13:47 out-of-immune diseases, cancers, depressions, stress, burn-outs, fatigues, call it. All kinds of names. All goes to the same problem. De-stimulative comfort zone behavior. So going out of there is actually seeking real comfort or real power. And it is in an initial, stressful response, you will get when you go into the cold. But very soon in a couple of days, the cold is gone and your energy is up. That is our natural state that we have a lot of energy all day long. Amazing what you can do with that. Yeah, it's so crazy. It's almost like as humans as we got more civilized, we forgot about our own internal powers because we just got more comfortable, more comfortable, a destimulated, destimulated, and we forgot what power we actually have and how our mind can
Starting point is 00:14:52 actually change our body, which is why your work is so, so powerful. So, Wim, I want to take a step back. I want to go to your childhood. So you were born in the Netherlands. You were born to a household of nine kids, you were actually a twin brother and you came into the world Completely unspecited or twin brother was born first and then you came next and your mom said to you Let this child live. I will make him a missionary. So tell us what is your mission in life today? My mission is no less than changing the world through the heart of
Starting point is 00:15:26 is no less than changing the world through the heart of people, billions of people, through the heart, I will show that unconditional love for life and for each other is a natural, inborn capacity of every person in the world. So that is where there is no depression, no disease. When people become unconditionally, love is such a great power when you feel it. Now, if we imagine if we could make that unconditional power, cult love, up and running within us, without condition, just you wake up and you, you're just in love.
Starting point is 00:16:04 You know how strong love can be. Yeah. When you love somebody, you fly. You don't think you get such strong sensations and emotions and you are lifted up. You are like flying. That power is also there unconditionally, also without a need of another person. It's there. And so I love my wife very much and my family life now.
Starting point is 00:16:34 But I was born like 63 years ago and then my mother, yes, she sat that slogan, that invocation, in the cult of the whole. I was unexpected being born in the cult of the whole with the words, oh God, let this child live. I will make him a missionary. That was my mother, God fearing a person, piousious and but very strong in her beliefs. And that must have been tattoo on my soul, back then, and that made me different all my life. So, yeah, respect to the mother and the love and the power there. Now it is so far that through the BBC,
Starting point is 00:17:28 this series I'm doing Hollywood and it's getting to hundreds of millions of people now. Yeah, everybody knows the ice man. Yeah, so my aim is nothing less once again, as in the beginning, to change the world, to bring the understanding and the tools to connect with the power to unconditionally love life. That's beautiful. Let's hold that thought and take a quick break with our sponsors. Young and profitors, do you have a brilliant business idea but you don't know how to move forward with it? Going into debt for a four-year degree isn't the only path to success. Instead, learn
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Starting point is 00:21:23 yoga, and then something attracted you into ice water. You didn't really figure it out completely until later on, but you were attracted to cold water. So what were you like as a teenager? Why did you, like, it's not normal to do Kung Fu and like, to do yoga when you're a kid? Like, what were you like when you're a teenager? I was quite knowledgeable, a debater,
Starting point is 00:21:44 a philosopher, into esoteric disciplines, from sufism to Buddhism, to Hinduism, to karate of Japan, to yoga from India. Anything I could get my hands upon was of interest to me. And I practiced it all. I was very disciplined, no drinking, no smoking, just going into these exercises and disciplines, the practice and for lostifying a lot. And then I found at the age of 17, I was already I was already at hundreds of books. It was just different. Maybe not a nerd. I can't say I was a nerd. No.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I followed my feeling. My feeling wanted to know, to get to know more, more. And my language is, I speak many languages. Because my feeling has always been open to learn. If you stay open, you will learn languages. Don't talk a language. If I went to France, I opened up to learn French and then to Spain and then to Spanish. And that's the way I've learned it.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And so the moment you speak 10 languages, there's no problem. And that is because you are an open being. We should not close ourselves up in our personal. Always be inquisitive like a child. A child's inquisitive nature is stronger than to be in a persona. That's why they are always so excited. And they are beautiful, because they are directly present in the light.
Starting point is 00:23:30 That's what I want. I want to be in the light now and forever. So, going back then, when I was 17, I found myself in the park, Sunday morning. I felt an attraction, intuitive and attraction. Instinctively, I went in and I was hooked.
Starting point is 00:23:54 And this is like 46 years ago. And since then, I've been doing it every winter, every day, going into the call. The call is a doorway, as I say, to the soul. Because through the cold you automatically breathe deeply. And when you breathe deeply, you go past this comfort zone behavior, behavior role, conditioning. You get into deeper areas of your physiology of the mind and the body, because you are feeding it. You know when you are alive, when you feel it, then you don't need to know what is life, what is it? No, you are there. That's what the cold is able to bring you to this awareness to a deeper depth
Starting point is 00:24:48 than your condition mind of the modern times. I followed that and then I became aware that my breathing deepened and with the deepening I began to exercise and to try out different kinds of breathing that resulted in very effective techniques that now have shattered sides. two children coming to me and age five and seven, both brain tumors. They have to go into chemo and they are sick, sick, sick, sick, all the time nauseous and sick and they lose their hair and all that because of their chemo. But since they are doing this, these breathing techniques plus going into the cold, their white cells of the immune system have 10 fold multiplied. Wow. It directly feeds into the depth of the system and with that the white cells, they multiply like crazy and this is a very effective these breathing techniques. Very effective to do it with the cold because it goes into the depth of your physiology much deeper than our modern day conditioning and then it brings solace to say two two children of five and seven. They are happy now
Starting point is 00:26:28 That's amazing. They are full of energy and they don't feel the chemo whatsoever The mother is happy the children are happy. I'm happy So with that the techniques I found Because there is more than meets the eye and I just began on the hunch when I was 17 now It has been proven throughout my life to beat all kinds of world records and then Science itself Yes, and so we're gonna get into all the techniques and the studies that you've been into and exactly what the Wim Hof Method is. We're going to talk about all of that. But you mentioned
Starting point is 00:27:10 something that I really want to touch on, which is following your intuition. You did not read this in a book. You figured this out by following your feelings. And I feel like a lot of people now, they don't know how to even understand what their own feelings and intuition is. They don't even know how to control that or how to even appreciate it or understand that. So talk to us about how do you know what your intuition is, what your feelings are, where you should go next, what are the things that you envision or feel? First of all, know that your intuition is an neurological network. It's called instinct and the intuition.
Starting point is 00:27:49 And those are neural signaling coming from cognitive cells in the gut and in the heart. And they are very strong. Only we, with our thinking brain, we have developed a established complex of thinking mechanisms that suppress intuition, the neurology of the gut and the heart to the brain. It blocks it. We keep on thinking. And thus, it is very difficult to sense it, because we are blocked therein. If you go many times, one direction, then it's very difficult to get out of the trot and path. We should have developed those
Starting point is 00:28:36 neurological pathways to the heart and to the gut much more than we did. So we talk about that and that's why you don't feel it. That's why you don't understand it because it hasn't got anything to do with this thinking. It has got to do with absolute feeling, a feeling more subtle but more powerful as preamination, telepathy, clairvoyance, beautiful subtle imaginary images. All those things we are deprived from because we are school to learn one and one is two. What is a history? What is mathematics? What is a language? Hey, we should have learned in the Schueprimer
Starting point is 00:29:25 School to be happy, strong and healthy. If we come more from an intuitive way from our instincts and having developed that, then we know what is wrong and what is right. We can feel it, we can understand the messages, and we are built to be always in balance Inside but we have been we have to learn all the time this we Keep on going and then that part is been neglected and that is the sensitive inner child It's a sad story actually, but now I'm here to say we found now a way to top down, regulate those neurological pathways. So we are able to go back into reconnecting from our state of mind into those neurological networks called the 6 and 7
Starting point is 00:30:29 cents 8 or the intuition, the instinct, the knowing why you are here, the purpose of life, all those things are not abstract things, that it's physiology. And now I made it physical, showing it in scientific brain scans, and then showing that now we have found the keys of the so-called autonomous processes in the brain related to mood regulation or emotion. So the emotion can be regulated by us. And who doesn't want to feel happy, strong and healthy? That's our mood. And mood, you can also call it the mind. So we got those keys now.
Starting point is 00:31:22 And for those who are seeking intuition, instinct and do not even understand what it is. Let me tell you, we found the physical keys to open it up. So you listen to this podcast and you give it a follow up by just trying out these techniques and get back into connection with your true self because it's beautiful. It is. This is so interesting and so powerful to me. Something that I'm curious about is do you think that we used to know this stuff in ancient times or do you think that we are evolving now and this is the next evolution? What do you think?
Starting point is 00:32:04 It is the second run. Before, of course, where less people was much more trade, much more creativity, less industrialized copying of things, extension tools, it was a lot less. So the other part of the brain were much more stimulated, thus developed. Yes, but 50 years ago, or 55 years ago, in 1967, it was when Apollo went to the moon. And all that used in the data, the control, the Cape Canaveral, the moon, the rocket, the Apollo, the rockhead, the Apollo. That was all that together in data was a lot less than this.
Starting point is 00:32:50 The phone, yeah. And this iPhone, we all use iPhones and phones and digital traffic that runs into our neurology. Our neurology goes a lot faster now than 50 years ago. The thing is, our minds have evolved internally very fast. And now it's the time to take ownership, control over our brain functioning at will. And now that's exactly what I've been showing in science that goes fully against the understandings or say of psychiatry, neurology, neuroscience, immunology, all those sciences from the past, they are shattered. I mean, take inflammation. Inflammation is the cause and effect of disease, any disease. And then in 2014, I showed very clearly after having received a bacteria injected,
Starting point is 00:33:58 how to defy a bacteria injected, which creates an aggressive reaction on the immune system, becomes overactive, and that's called inflammation, and I just brought it down and dealt with the bacteria like in the beginning. So it could not grow, I inhibited it, and that is because I activated my immune system to a much deeper level, at will, all at will. And then they said, if you are able to do that, then that means you're able to bring down the cause and effect of disease. But you must be a freak of nature because nobody ever has shown what you have been showing in the results. And then I said, no, anybody can do this. Our mind at will is now able to tap in to our state immune system, endocrine system,
Starting point is 00:35:02 lymphatic system much deeper than ever before has been stated in scientific literature. Of course, the whole pharmaceutical industry and all those people dependant on sick people, because they are client, it's going to go away because people have a much more possible autonomy over that what causes disease, whatever the name of disease. So the possible capacity of the state of our mind in our brain nowadays, not 50 years ago, now it is. And now we are also able to tap into, say, the past, the time, space, consciousness, which is a part in our brain, but a soul doesn't know time or it's only sign, it knows more than time, because it's everlasting. It's unbreakable
Starting point is 00:36:06 and everlasting, but you cannot ask a child what it is to be an adult. It never has experienced it. And we, it's very difficult to talk to people and say, do you know what it is to be timeless? Do you know what it is to be the soul that is going past time in space? When time in space are no longer than the fear of death is gone. And we are able to go past that time space consciousness originated from our Neo cortex and and our pre-Phontal Cortex, whatever the names, our present day consciousness is a captivated within the time space consciousness. But we in our mind are able now to tap in to the unlimited, to the timelessness, the unlimited hour of our mind.
Starting point is 00:37:07 It's just neurology, it's physical, it's no longer philosophy. So we are able to tap into those areas and that means all your people, when you listen to this podcast, the we found the keys to go into the control of 100% of our mind, brains. Because the mind is what we receive and where we send it to. That's why it's called the unlimited power.
Starting point is 00:37:37 It's everywhere and everything. But we are the radio. We are the sender and the receiver. And with that, we are able to control our bodies, with resonance, with neurology and neurology is controlling the cardiovascular system, etc. All that and emotions, they all have purpose and now we are able to enter into that all willfully. It is saying to the person, what do you really want? Because you are able to find it and you are built to be able to find it. And if not, go into the eyes. Do the breathing. Because it makes you go past your conditions, captivated mind. So there we are.
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Starting point is 00:45:15 So like we were saying, when you were 17, you were dabbling in the cold, but really, your true awakening came out of pain and grief. And so for my research, I learned that your wife had schizophrenia when you were 35, she committed suicide. She left you with four children to care for on your own. I can't even imagine how tough that must have been. I mean, the busyness of tending to four young children,
Starting point is 00:45:36 you probably didn't have much time to grief or deal with the pain. So help us understand how did you become the iceman from the death of your wife? Yes, you become very fast conscious to find a way to deal with the situation when you have full kids and you have no money and you are heartbroken. So are you overcome or you break? It's very simple.
Starting point is 00:46:01 And then I found that the cold was able to bring stillness in my mind. That was a go and pass my emotional agony. Emotional agony is part of the mind. And it happens. But then suddenly we have no control over it. And we are delivered to the gods of emotions and terrible. And it's all day long long and it eats us alive.
Starting point is 00:46:27 It's neurology and we are broken and we need the other half and it's not there. So that is psychosomatically a very devastating path for anybody in our society. And there is quite little consideration for these people because they have to run with the train of daily life and keep on going, especially I had to. So the only thing that could stop that emotional agony that was the icy water. So that gave me just a brief moment of opening the door to healing, to tranquility, to just
Starting point is 00:47:09 purpose, just being, just being and feeling was great at that moment. Even though I was in icy cold water, I felt relief of that emotional agony, which is much more stressful than icy water. I can tell you. Yeah. But through the icy water I could find relief and that gave me back my control over my body, over my body and my emotions while I'm doing this. So you were in the water and that made you gas, right? Is that how you figured out the breathing? The cold and gasping, yes, if you gas, it is because you automatically need deeper breathing to withstand the stressful impact of
Starting point is 00:47:59 icy water on the skin. It needs a biochemistry change and that is being done by deep breathing. This is feeding your body from the inside. And thus you can go longer into icy water, you're suddenly because you make your body so powerful, it's unimaginable how powerful the body It's unimaginable how powerful the body can become. Your will is connected to the mind, and your will is neurology. So those are neural signals. Together with breathing, that is a powerful entity. And began to become conscious of that. And that entity that made me go into every day into more than
Starting point is 00:48:48 one time until I was back fully in control. And with all the energy I needed to have a happy or a good, vibrant family life. Without even money, I was happy, strong and healthy and for and the kids could see it. I was more a child than than they were. This is what they say now. But so beautiful and so nowadays we don't breathe deep. Most of us don't breathe deep. We breathe shallow. So can you talk to us about what deep breathing does? Like how does it clean ourselves? Why is it so good for us? Yes, deep breathing makes our carbon dioxide to breathing out. Not only it, it makes the CO2 carbon dioxide go short with the exercises of deep breathing, but if you generally breathe deep, purr, then your body does not become acidic.
Starting point is 00:49:51 We walk in our society, we take on stress, we have to exercise and exert our bodies and minds and we think we can do that without repercussions. And that's not. We have biochemical repercussions of that, making our bodies acidic. Deep breathing simply gives us the food to deal with that stress and to go deeply into the lymphatic system, which is the storage system, the garbage system of ours,
Starting point is 00:50:29 where biochemical residue is present. If you breathe deep, then it gets into the lymphatic system. And once it gets into the lymphatic, then it cleanses the acidity over there, and then you will feel relieved again, and you feel energy, because that's the way we are. We have vibrant beings, until we become acidic, and then we feel sluggish, we feel tired, we feel, oh, it's too much, and it's logical, because the biochemistry is not clean. We should clean ourselves every day.
Starting point is 00:51:10 If we do this breathing, these breathing techniques, and they are very simple, then it has been shown in scientific blood results taken of people doing this. Then you become very alkaline. And then five hours later, they took the blood again of those people who did their breathing. They were still alkaline. That means it is a thorough way to cleanse yourself in the depth of your physiology. And then a magic happens. Yeah. And it's free.
Starting point is 00:51:45 It is freedom. Freedom is the ability to go anywhere with your mind and your body inside. Yeah. So, how do you perform the Wim Hof method exactly? What is the Wim Hof breathing method? Yes. It is starting with the cold, gradual cold exposure. I always say a cold shower a day keeps the doctor away. Just take it on guys, it is it's also the
Starting point is 00:52:13 best skincare you can ever imagine because you you stimulate all these receptors in the skin everywhere and that makes it the blood flow go to the skin. And blood flow is nutrients, it's oxygen, it's vitamins, minerals, it's all there. And it's feeding it from the inside. That is one, two, if you go into the cold, you train your cardiovascular system. We think the cardiovascular system, you don't see it, but it has millions of little muscles. And going into the cold shower is stimulating deeply those millions of little muscles. And thus, the blood flow will go much better through your body. That is the 75,000 miles. It will travel a lot better because all of your muscles, they help with contracting and opening. That is because of the
Starting point is 00:53:13 stimulation of the core. Do it. And then the heart rate goes down like 20, 30 beats a minute, 24 hours a day. That means a lot less stress. And because all those millions of litter muscles help, the blood flow go through much better. That's why it reaches all the cells a lot better by which the nutrients, the minerals, the oxygen, they get into the cells a lot better means means a lot more energy. So, energy goes up, the stress goes down. That is what is the cold is doing. Really, your energy goes, Whoa, how much energy do you want?
Starting point is 00:53:57 You will get it. That's what, two, is the breathing. Naturally, when you go into the cold, you feel deep breathing. Deep breathing cleanses the lymphatic system. You de-acidify yourself. You become alkaline. And alkalinity is the carrier, the right biochemical environment for the neurology to flow. That is our electrical system. That is our
Starting point is 00:54:28 nervous system is electricity, dosa, electrons and protons. Yes, every cell is a battery and when you become alkaline, then every cell, trillions are other, but let's take one cell. There are in our electrons and protons. When they are mingled, it's not able to charge up energy. Electrons and protons, I'm calling, this is physiology, electrophysiology. So, when you become alkaline, then they get apart. The electrons and protons become a part.
Starting point is 00:55:07 That means suddenly the battery is getting charged. And thus, that is very good for the cell mechanisms, but also for your energy in general. You will see that if you do the breathing, for example, I hear a lot of CEOs saying at two o'clock in the afternoon, I'm sluggish in my mind. And then I do the breathing 20 minutes. I'm fresh like a chickener. Yeah, this is making the energies, the alkalinity in the body, making it alkaline by which the nervous system is able to run with the speed of light. The speed of electricity is the speed of light.
Starting point is 00:55:53 It's within and we can make that happen anytime. So that is great. That is the breathing. You were talking a little bit about the placebo, but the placebo I can tell you is no longer. I showed that in brain scans how to activate, robustly, the endocannabinoid system, which is a name periacodctal gray hemisphere, which is where the opioids, the cannabinoids, dopamine, serotonins, all is there. And I'm able to activate that at will. And with that, I'm able to rectify inside what needs to be balanced out because of inflammation, deregulation of the immune system whatsoever, what is making me sick, I'm able to nullify it by activating my pharmacy inside, and it knows exactly what to do. Yeah, and so when you say placebo is no more, do you mean you figured out what a placebo
Starting point is 00:56:59 is? It's actually people controlling their inner their bodies because they believe something. And before they never really knew that they had the power, but they took this pill and then they believe they had the power. Is that what it is? Exactly. It's no longer a suggestive power. It is the power in a capacity of hours to regulate what is out of what is-regulated in our bodies. Yeah. There's two things that I want to talk about. Alkaline, which you touched on, and adrenaline. So alkaline, usually we think we've got a drink, certain types of water, but I learned from you
Starting point is 00:57:37 that like you said, deep breathing can impact our alkalinity. We can have the perfect pH levels in our bodies so it can operate beyond what we're currently used to. So if we have shallow breathing, it's acidic. And if we have deep breathing, we can become more alkaline and our body performs better. Now, what does adrenaline have to do? I know adrenaline is a big part of this, so what does adrenaline have to do with this? Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Adrenaline is a great resetter when you are in danger then you can shitting your pants you can pin your pants. Anything that is inside is done instantly out because you got to be ready. You got to be handling the situation with the utmost of functionality. That's what it is. And then not only shitting and peeing in the pants, but also bacteria and virus, they don't ate to the situation. They are blocking it.
Starting point is 00:58:38 They're making us sluggish. It's like people who are entrepreneurs, and they are not working for a boss But they are having their own company and they have to go for a deadline They are able to postpone They're becoming sick because they have to do the deadline. That's adrenaline So the adrenaline when it won't say it shuts down because the deadline has been reached and all, then they become sick suddenly. I had this problem with the people of SpaceX, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:12 the Elon Musk SpaceX. I gave the master class over there and those people going on the mission to the moon, to the space. It's every time a mission they have to perform, perform, perform adrenaline, adrenaline, adrenaline. And then when it's over, more than the half of the people become sick every time. But not anymore. And that is because I teach people how to activate
Starting point is 00:59:43 and regulate their own adrenal access to an extent by which they are able to bring down, you know, when you feel not good, when you feel whatever it should not be inside, you should be able to activate your adrenal access, to spike it, to reset yourself, and feel great again. Yeah. So, that is what we do with these breathing techniques. They are able to activate deeply the adrenal access, and then once, because you are doing it, you get a willful connection with that adrenal access. And then when you need it in daily lives somewhere, because you don't feel good, because you've
Starting point is 01:00:33 got to perform, you've got to do a speech, a keynote speech, or this, or that, or a marriage proposal, or whatever. Emotional, mental, just something difficult, then you are able to activate it and to be the best of yourself at that moment. And that's what we learn by going into the eyes and doing the breathing exercises. We learn to have a willful or neurological connection with those areas of the brain that brings us to the ability to function well with other people. So you actually had a study that you did with 12 other people, I believe, where you guys injected yourselves with E. coli and endotoxin E. coli. And usually people get violently sick, but nobody in the study really got sick.
Starting point is 01:01:37 So tell us about that study, and anything else in terms of studies, maybe something new, whatever you wanna share in terms of how this is scientifically proven now. Yes, there's quite a lot now, proven. Only the bastards who make money on us being sick and dependent, they of course don't want that.
Starting point is 01:01:56 These are natural ways, and it's not bound to only the ice man. It is everybody is able to go much deeper in their physiology of mind and body than before was considered possible. It is really paradigm shifting material. So for the people who listening, I did that study in 2013 where we had a comparative research done on 12 people who did not do training for four days and the others did a training for four days and they all were subjected to an injection of an E. coli bacteria within an endotoxemia model, experimental model, and
Starting point is 01:02:48 normally people become very sick. His fever, headaches, agony, muscle aches, back aches, nausea, vomiting, things like that. And that's because of the inflammation, and you cannot stop it. But these guys, 12 of them, and this is actually not only 24 people, it's 16,000 before, they all became sick. And then suddenly 12 people did not absolutely not 100% not become sick. So that is at least I would say man that's sick Wow great It's incredible yeah these people were like making jokes off
Starting point is 01:03:34 I think they ejected us with sugar water because nothing is happening They did the breathing exercises and they had this cold training only for four days. And they were able, and this was considered to be impossible in humans to tap into the atomic nervous system. That is the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous system, which we cannot control. And with that, the innate immune system, if there was a problem in the COVID virus inflammation causing diseases, pulmonary, what was it? Endothelial leaks in the lungs and where people drown in themselves like
Starting point is 01:04:21 pneumatic udemia, then it is caused by inflammation and we brought it down. Nobody wants to know about this. This is sick. This is a sick society where money is being brought up. Hey, that's our earning model. We don't want to crash into that. Man, where have we gone with our soul, happiness, strength, and hell? This is what I've showed through science, and even then people do not take it up. And it changed the books in the university, yeah. It was been published in the best of scientific papers of the world. And why they are not taking it up is evident. But I tell
Starting point is 01:05:07 to you, the listener right now, Hey man, there is a way where you are able to get a much deeper hold of yourself to guarantee and maintain your own happiness, strength and health. Just take it on, follow up on this and look into it. And just try it out once. If it doesn't work, blame me. But if it works, hey man, congratulations. You have a great control over your own systems, the way nature meant it to be. And then afterwards, I did, that's where we actually a shattered sign, a science, the foundations of science, we shattered it over there. This was impossible, considered in all the hundreds of years of science, that the autonomic nervous system will fully
Starting point is 01:06:01 can be activated, influenced, changed, controlled. It was not there and now it's there. It changed a whole paradigm. So that's history. Yeah. That's historical, guys. And it's historical for your own health, happiness and strength in your life. Just take it on. This is more than reading matter or entertainment. These are real facts. The real tools. It's called the breathing and the gradual cold exposure to bring you back to your real natural condition where you are able to maintain and activate your own happiness, strength and health. It's all there guys. And with with that the ability to control 100% of your own brain, which we all so showed in another study in Hanover in Germany, with whom I'm going to have a
Starting point is 01:06:57 podcast after this with the doctors of them, we found out through these breathing exercises that we are able to activate 100% neural activity inside the brain. And then the mind, which is omnipresent, omnipresent and omnipotent, we can reach it, we can tap into that. And we can use it for whatever we need in our subconsciousness, through our intuition and our instincts, the sixth sense. We can all learn to control and say, listen, it's not difficult, it's not complicated. Just bring it on because you are now innately our mind in the field of consciousness, Nürnberg and Hanover, big universities and the best of equipment and they saw heart films and they saw like
Starting point is 01:08:16 five times more blood flushing into the heart and into the brain doing these breathing exercises, that was one. But then every trauma has an cardiovascular imprint in everybody of us. That's the way it stores up. When it happens in the moment, it's too much. But it is imprinted in our cardiovascular system. It remembers, it's stored up. Now, during these breathing techniques, you go into extreme contraction and extreme dilutation or opening of the vascular system by which you shake off the cardiovascular imprint, which is the future of psychiatry.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Breathing is the future of psychiatry and cardiology because cardiology means, hey, if you are able to reboot your heart, the electrical currents in your heart by flushing five times, more blood inside, it's like a reboosting like a your car in the winter, the battery needs a booster. It's like you boost you from the inside and we are doing the study with 600 people right now. The data is a being processed, but this is all revolutionary. And so I got more, I did these studies in Detroit, in brain scans and FMRIs, and it shows that we now found keys to enter into emotion, willfully, only using the will. We have to wake in the people to
Starting point is 01:09:57 wear that fact. It's a fact that your neurology of your brain now is capacitated to willfully control your emotion and your emotion can be perturbed by disease, by stress, by fatigue, by the forces, but you can read our balance that back again willfully but you have to exercise it. Don't think you cannot think you can and thus you neurosecno within yourself and you will see miracles. Life is a miracle. Life will happen. Miracles happen. This is so powerful. Honestly, I feel like this is only the beginning. I feel like you're so revolutionary. You're changing the world
Starting point is 01:10:46 I hope you live to be 200 years old so you can keep telling everyone to do this and keep teaching and I'm gonna spread the message as much as I can I know that we're running out of time here, so we're gonna wrap it up. I have a few more questions I want to really understand what you think how do I I explain this? Like, your perspective on religion, you've said that God is cold. I know that you believe in reincarnation. I feel like you really tapped into something special and you know a lot more about the purpose of life and the world more than most people because you are just in it more. So I want to hear your perspective. Exactly. I saw once a documentary of the South of Italy and there was one guy saying, or it was a woman saying,
Starting point is 01:11:31 yeah, you know why miracles happen here? Because we believe. People lost their beliefs and beliefs now become physical. And this is what I've been showing. Your belief, your neurropsychnelling is able to heal yourself, to positively influence the neurology of your whole body, to make you feel the vine. That's the purpose of our neuropsychnelling our will, to become one with what makes us feel divine and great and expanding our consciousness. That is simple, it's physical, it's very simple. So, where
Starting point is 01:12:16 do you invest in that you are not able to feel like divine and great and amazing or do you feel I just follow what is here and then yeah I won't fly with on my funeral later something like that and somebody sing a song. I say fuck off all I want real love and feel like a king and proud of who I am. I'm spreading the love and I will not go until everybody is happy, strong and healthy, that the soul is there as a chute. And it is very simple, very powerfully there and it's time to become timeless. Right now, right here. So, in the case of religion, amen, they diverged so much that Muhammadins and Christians both say, Allah is it,
Starting point is 01:13:12 oh no, Christ is it, and then they patched each others. Amen, they lost the track of love, which is the vehicle of being divine. So, let's leave the religions with all the respect I have for people who believe but know that you are not bound by a book or churches, signer garbs or mosques or whatever. With all the respect I have for them I say God is everywhere. So get into that. That's beautiful. Okay, so we asked the same two questions to all of our
Starting point is 01:13:46 guests at the end of the show and then we do something fun. So what is one actionable thing that our listeners can do today to be more profitable tomorrow? Hey, culture, and brief deeper. Both. Love it. And what is your secret to profiting in life? Energy. Money is energy. So tap into your body, cleanse your body, and energy will be yours. And then you will experience unconditional power. That is energy flow without being blocked. And then you don't need compensation from the outside. You are full filled inside. You feel like a million dollars. Only you can never ever buy it with a million dollars. You're a conditional love, but you can be it.
Starting point is 01:14:36 I love that. And Wim, where can our listeners learn more about you in the Wim Hof method? As the name says, Wim Hof is my name and then method dot com. There you find all the, you know, on YouTube, Instagram, the things you find the signs, you find the breathing bubble, their exercises. It's mostly, are you ready? Because it's a great journey awaiting. I love that. WIM, I had such an amazing conversation with you. Is there any last words you want to say to our young and profitors? I love you all, guys.
Starting point is 01:15:09 I love you all. Wow, I loved this conversation with Wim Hof. I just felt so jazzed after this interview. I just had a rush of energy because Wim is so intense. He's so passionate. And I could just tell this guy really cares. He's really on a mission to help the world. And I'm recording this on Father's Day.
Starting point is 01:15:31 So I figured I'd just share that, women really reminds me of my late father. So my dad died two years ago and he was a surgeon and a doctor and he wrote several books. And he was obsessed with helping prevent diabetes and heart disease. And he did a ton of research about it, and he would be so passionate telling everyone about his research and how he's gonna save America, and he was also really, really intense the way
Starting point is 01:15:59 that women is and has a thick accent. I just wanted to share that because he reminded me and my dad, it really felt extra special connecting with him for that reason. And I feel like what women's teaching could literally change the world so much for the better. And I'm super happy that I was able to be a small part of him spreading his message. There's so much to learn when it comes to how we can connect with our brain and body. When we're tapped in, tuned in, and turned on, we are insanely powerful.
Starting point is 01:16:25 We are such crazy beings. It's just crazy to think like how advanced of beings that we are. It's going to be fascinating to see how the science surrounding human biology and health unfold over the next decades with people like Wim Hof popularizing and debunking things within the scientific community we thought were impossible just a few years ago. It feels like we are just starting to scratch the service with all of this. And one of the most mind-moenged parts of my research for this conversation and talking to Wim Hof was finding out that we can gain mastery over our nervous, immune, and cardiovascular systems and do things like reverse chronic illness with breathing and cold exposure.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Wim says that the placebo effect is no longer a suggestive power. It's actually real. Our minds have the power to tap into our body systems and actually change and influence any process in our body without pills or medication. Now that is truly incredible. So now that we know the benefits and the advantages of the Wim Hofmatt that are a lot better, I have to say, I don't know about you, but I feel very excited to give this stuff a try. I got sick a couple weeks ago, and I haven't really been able to shake it off, so I'm going to start taking cold showers. And like WIM
Starting point is 01:17:35 says, a cold shower keeps the doctor away. And I can't wait to see if that really helps boost my immune system. But before you turn the shower on, as cold as it can go, remember that there are three pillars to the Wim Hof method, breathing, cold therapy, and commitment. We talked a lot about breathing in cold exposure, but I did want to focus on commitment for the last couple of minutes. Now, a lot of us shudder when it comes to the thought of a cold shower. It's going to suck at first, just like anything good for you seems to, But eventually, I think your body's gonna create getting into that cold water. And many people have said that they crave the cold now.
Starting point is 01:18:11 And also, WIM says that internal neurological networks only grow with deep stimulation. So you're not gonna find that deep stimulation in your comfort zone, and you're certainly not gonna find it only by practicing this method once or twice. So create a habit, be consistent, and commit. And if you're gonna try a cold shower, I wanna hear all about it. You guys can DM me on Twitter or Instagram at Yap with Hala,
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