Young and Profiting with Hala Taha - YAPClassic: The Future of Money is Cryptocurrency
Episode Date: March 9, 2022For the first time in history, we are being offered an alternative to traditional financial gatekeepers like governments and banks. Cryptocurrency allows value to be exchanged directly from person t...o person. This is one of the things that is so exciting about cryptocurrency. It truly has the potential to change how we conduct business, handle monetary transactions, store value, and so much more. Many say that cryptocurrency is the way of the future. If it’s new to you, now is the perfect time to catch up to speed. In this short episode, Hala speaks with cryptocurrency experts, researchers, and influencers, Philip Nunn, Ohad Flinker, Edward Lehner, Paul Savchuk, and Tim Melnyk. They discuss why cryptocurrency and blockchain are important for young professionals to get familiar with, how cryptocurrency could change the world, and much more. Topics Include: - The history of currency and crypotocurrency - Why cryptocurrency a polarizing issue - Why you don’t need to understand how it works to use it - Why cryptocurrency and blockchain is important for young professionals to get familiar with - How cryptocurrency will change the world - Why Wall Street is afraid of blockchain - Bitcoin vs Ethereum - How companies/industries/people find value in blockchain - Fiat Currency vs Cryptocurrency - Metcalfe's Law and the power of networks - Is it too late to buy bitcoin? - And other topics… Meet the Guests: Phillip Nunn is the CEO of Wealth Chain Capital. And arguably Europe's biggest cryptocurrency influencer with over 300,000 followers. He has a background in financial markets.   Ohad Flinker is a marketing strategist focused on cryptocurrency and tokenization strategies. Edward Lehner is a University educator & blockchain researcher at City University of New York. He has been researching cryptocurrency for over four years. Paul Savchuk is an American entrepreneur, investor, trader who is originally from Ukraine. He was born and raised in Kyiv. Savchuk is the co-founder of Cryptocurrency Capital LLC American based hedge fund. Tim Melnyk is the Co-Founder and Chief Strategy Officer at Cryptocurrency Capital LLC. He has ten years of experience in business development and has been trading crypto assets for the last three years. Sponsored By: Coinbase - Sign up at Coinbase.com/hala for $10 in free Bitcoin. This offer is for a limited time only, so be sure to sign up today! Jordan Harbinger - Check out jordanharbinger.com/start for some episode recommendations Athletic Greens - Visit athleticgreens.com/YAP and get a FREE 1 year supply of immune-supporting Vitamin D AND 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase. Constant Contact - To start your free digital marketing trial today, visit constantcontact.com. That’s constantcontact.com to start a 60-day free trial. constantcontact.com Sandland Sleep - Go to sandlandsleep.com and use the promo code YAP15 Issuu - Get started with Issuu today for FREE or if you sign up for a premium account you will get 50% off when you go to ISSUU.com/podcast and use promo code YAP Resources mentioned: YAP Ep. #2 - The Internet of Value: Bitcoin, Blockchain & The New Internet (Part 1): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-internet-of-value-bitcoin-blockchain-the-new/id1368888880?i=1000414092504 YAP Ep. #3 - Internet of Value: The Crypto Landscape (Part 2):  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/3-internet-of-value-the-crypto-landscape-part-2/id1368888880?i=1000415559699 Connect with Young and Profiting:  YAP’s Instagram: www.instagram.com/youngandprofiting  Hala’s Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/htaha/  Hala’s Instagram: www.instagram.com/yapwithhala  Website: www.youngandprofiting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Over the past few years, cryptocurrency has been on the tip of everyone's tongue. Words
like blockchain, bitcoin, and Ethereum have woven their way into our daily vocabulary. But
what does it all mean?
And why should we pay attention?
Cryptocurrency may seem confusing or intimidating,
but it's undoubtedly one of the most important topics of our times.
Top entrepreneurs like Kevin O'Leary are calling it the biggest thing since the Internet.
You can't afford to sleep on this, and today's episode is going to help you get up to speed.
In this conversation, our guests will teach the fundamentals of crypto, and you'll understand
how to get involved and why cryptocurrency could be the money of the future. Our lineup today
includes cryptocurrency power influencer Philip Nunn,rency marketing strategist O'Hod Flinker, University educator and
blockchain researcher Edward Lennor, and co-founders of cryptocurrency capital LLC Paul Savchuk and Tim
Melanick. These guys are leaders in the world of cryptocurrency and they all agree that blockchain
and cryptocurrency are creating once in a lifetime opportunities, especially for millennials.
Today's episodes are an edited down version of my episodes number two and three.
And yes, these were recorded way back in 2018, but they're still more relevant than ever.
And I put so much effort into these first few episodes that these are still amongst my favorite episodes ever.
So I think you're gonna really enjoy it.
We'll include the links in the show notes
so you can check out the full, unedited versions as well.
To get a grip on cryptocurrency,
we should start from the beginning.
Let's dive into why this new currency
came into play to begin with.
If you actually think about globalization and how the world's become smaller, there's only
really been two things that have impacted that in the last, and they've both happened in
the last sort of 30 years. The first was the advent of the internet for me. You know,
when you, if you remember the first sort of internet and the internet, people were sort
of laughing at it and saying it would never have any impact or take on. What the internet's done is given us this freedom and ability to exchange information freely
with each other and instantly.
And the second one was then the smartphone.
The smartphones had more of a profound effect in terms of the world mobile and we can sort
of track where we are and what we're doing.
It's a, it's usually in the third one, which is this new wave that's come along, is
blockchain, technology, and cryptocurrency.
And what this really means is, for the first time ever in the history of the world, we're
creating this internet of value whereby, without any bank, government, or institution in
the middle, I can exchange value with you.
So we would be able to exchange value with no middle man, no intermediary, and within
seconds from the
UK to New York. And it's really quite exciting.
Money started out as a store of value that was coupled to a commodity like gold or silver.
And in 1971, Richard Nixon decoupled the US dollar from the value of gold, creating
a fiat currency or value by decree, just because
the king or the government said so. And it worked okay pretty much until people felt
like they lost trust in 2008. And we trust a very small group of companies and government
agencies to manage our value in the world. And that usually works until it doesn't
like in the financial crisis of 2008.
And what happened very soon afterwards in 2009
is that a very small group of tech eeks
ran this social experiment.
Let's create our own ledger.
And instead of a bank or a government agency
being an organization that trusts to manage that value,
we'll have the to manage that value, will have the
crowd manage that value.
And more and more people over the past decade have poured their time and resources into the
Bitcoin blockchain.
And it was the first real use case or proof that the blockchain can actually work.
You know, people who've been in that space for a long time have been sitting on
this technology and waiting for the opportune moment because while the economic times were good
and we were thriving and everything was good, if Bitcoin had come along you'd have just been left
left away as quick as it came along but actually when people have had enough of the banking system
collapsing, government bailouts, qualitative easing, you know, if you look at countries like Cyprus, Portugal, Greece,
Italy, Ireland, Argentina's, in Barbouille,
I'll keep naming them, we've got massive economic crisis
and people are looking for another way
in another solution.
So this is why I had the maximum impact.
And it's here to stay, you know, it's not gonna go anywhere.
And why does it work?
Because enough people agree that it's a store of value.
And part of the reason it's such a polarizing issue is because the idea behind
Bitcoin is a little bit surversive because the definition of money is
currency issued by a government. And there is no government that issues Bitcoin. And so it's this weird new asset.
But for all intents and purposes, it is working. And as a result, when people saw that it was working over the past few years,
more and more other cryptocurrencies, other blockchains and other tokens or units of value that are coupled to a specific
blockchain such as Ethereum have been created. So if you take away Bitcoin tomorrow morning, obviously it would
hurt the blockchain, but it would not make this
financial genie, this thing that everybody's calling the Internet of Money or the Internet of Value. It would not make that go away
because the internet of money or the internet of value, it would not make that go away because the idea of this digital currency that is not issued by a central authority, a government bank is so powerful that the people have voted with their wallets, with their
time, with their resources, that this is a thing that people want.
One of the first mistakes I think people make with trying to figure out this thing called
the blockchain and Bitcoin is trying to figure out the technology.
And I think the more interesting question is why people are so excited about the blockchain
and about Bitcoin?
You don't have to actually understand it, how it works. You need to understand how you can use it.
And it doesn't mean that you need to make the search of who created why it has value and what kind of protocol was used.
People use Amazon on their phone. They use the Google their phone. They have no understanding how it works, but they still take benefit of it.
What I always say is, blockchain technology, all you have to think of it is, all the blockchain
is a database of ledger, but as opposed to working centrally on one centralized server,
it's decentralized on many different nodes and machines, and it works in a totally different way.
But it's much like a body of mine on LinkedIn
stated a while ago that if I got into telling you
how microwave worked and the fundamentals of that,
you'd probably never use one again.
And most people actually when you talk about the internet,
how many people in the world know how the internet works.
If I asked you to explain exactly how Instagram worked
and the fundamentals of it, you wouldn't be able to explain exactly how Instagram worked and the fundamentals
of it, you wouldn't be able to explain it not many of us would. So really what it's all
about is this thing is going to sort of slowly come underneath us by the internet did and
to understand the fundamentals of it, that you're moving from a centralized way of working
to a decentralized way of working, that's really all you need to know. And the father is
going to give you a secure way of trading value.
So can you talk about why cryptocurrency and blockchain is important for young professionals
and millennials to begin to study and get familiar with?
Like why is that important for them to start interacting with this new technology?
Sure. I think particularly for millennials,
your generation will be inheriting the folly
of previous generations.
The amount of debt that your generation
is inheriting is significant.
And so this opportunity, and I think, you know,
every generation has this opportunity
with a significant wealth creation.
So I saw this during my career, early career, in the internet, where people became million
errors and billion errors.
I mean, that was in internet 1.0.
By the time internet 2.0 comes around, because of things like network effect, Facebook has
a type of network effect that Yahoo only dreamt about in 1998.
Or Google had a type of network effect where they basically were able to catalog the entire
world, right? Whether the Google maps or information on the web, those types of opportunities
have kind of come and gone. So particularly, I think why millennials should be interested in cryptocurrencies, one, the crushing that sadly, this generation will inherit.
Two, and probably more importantly, it's this wealth generation opportunity of your generation.
If one were alive in the late 1870s, I would say railroads, getting to railroads, right?
Or getting to banking, right?
Try to figure out what John Peer Point Morgan is doing.
Or if one were, if there was, through the 70s, I would talk about the personal computer.
But now as we're, you know, approaching 2020, this wealth generation opportunity is so
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So how do you think cryptocurrency will change the world?
I mean, goodness me, I have to be careful out of these podcasts because I don't want to
get shot somehow by a like a secret agent. I'm sure I won't, but you know, we've had a way of working for many,
many years, probably hundreds of years, which is a centralized way of working, more very controlled
by the system. And that's the biggest stranglehold this breaks. You know, guys who've had all the
power of had it too good for too long,
and I see cryptocurrency as an uprising. And this leads on to the question about helping society.
I mean, you look at the world we live in and how much wealth there is in the world.
It's just unfair. It doesn't work. The system does not work. We still have poverty. We still have
people starving. I feel like there is a lot of reason why Wall Street and bankers are so afraid of Wall Chain is because
everything is going to be so transparent that you will not be able to create new derivatives
or created full plots like in which cost the mortgage crisis or the dot com crisis, or each time we had like a kind of depression or like stagnation
or like this financial crisis, it was because of the influence of those major players.
And the reason why it happened, because nobody could control it, everything was happened
behind the closed doors.
And even if you have the account in this bank,
even if you know how these financial markets work,
and what type of assets you can trade or invest,
you still under the risk that Bangers
gonna use your money five, six times more
with offshore account,
or like they're not gonna to audit their company properly and
you will not be confident that they have funds or not.
And if you're talking about blockchain, to control all these processes like behind the
closed doors in the open way.
So everybody's going to know what's happening no matter what.
I mean, I live in America, we live in America, we have banking systems, access to credit.
People don't have this.
It really got me, and I've always,
you know, for the last few years,
it's been so diligent about my cryptocurrency,
but really what made it so compelling for me
was last December, December of 2016,
when India took out most of its currency.
They took out what in America would be the equivalent of all ones, all their fives, all
their tens, and all their 20s.
They basically just went to high note bills, 50s and 100s.
But that's this idea in economics, which we call Gresham's Law.
Gresham's Law is that the good money goes out of the economy.
And that's exactly what happened in India.
The Indian government gave seven hours notice.
Basically, it would be the equivalent of our president saying, okay, we're no longer going
to accept cash, except for 50s and 100s.
All that money will go out of the economy almost directly.
And all those small bills are now worthless.
In millions of people suffered.
I'm sure thousands or hundreds of thousands suffered greatly and many died.
And that made me think about how important it is.
What we're doing in cryptocurrency is that we're providing a counter narrative to a traditional
banking system.
We still have people dropping bombs on Syria, which is due to,
you know, political sentiment and all this sort of thing. And I'm a great believer that blockchain
and the movement of blockchain and cryptocurrency is one that can wipe out lots of this corruption
and lots of this sort of lack of integrity and unfairness that exists in the world. If you
whether or not this actually happens, I don't know, but I think in terms of a better society, there's your altruistic, there's your sort of
SK scenario for me. But as if you look at it from a buzz living in a Western world and going
to work every day and living an honest life and do what we do, I think what's going to happen
going forward is that instead
of people like Facebook and Amazon and Google and Microsoft and the big Silicon Valley
companies monetizing our existence and monetizing our data and controlling that side of how
we exist, I think that's going to change. So in the future, I see a future where there
will be a version of Facebook. I think Facebook will be gone in 10 years completely.
We'll sort of say, remember Facebook like my space.
And there'll be a version of Facebook
that will be very much a decentralized version
where we're all on there.
We can exchange value with each other.
So I can be in a restaurant and I will tag myself
in the restaurant and I will get some tokens for doing that.
So we'll all be able to monetize our existence in a better way. We'll be able
to use our spare hours where we're a lawyer and we want to give two or three hours a week extra
work and we'll be able to tokenize that. So we're moving to this sort of decentralized tokenized
way of working, but I think it's power to the people in that we'll all be able to create
and value within our own existence. And that's really powerful.
I know when it comes to cryptocurrency Bitcoin kind of takes all the shine.
It was the first, it's the biggest.
How about Ethereum, the lesser known counterpart of Bitcoin?
Sure.
In 2014, Vitalik Petera and the founder of Ethereum basically came to the Bitcoin community
with a very simple and powerful idea. And he basically said, if the blockchain works for Bitcoin as currency,
why can't we take the same idea and apply it to pretty much any other
centralized method of managing value or even of managing identity?
So real estate contracts, even digital identity could, in theory, be managed
by this decentralized network. And he proposed creating another blockchain called the
Ethereum that would enable anybody to create a smart contract that governs a token that isn't just an asset but has
actually utilitarian use. Ethereum has a blockchain and within the
Ethereum blockchain people can write smart contracts and raise money.
So for example, Filecoin raised money on the Ethereum blockchain. Telegram, the encrypted networking and messaging system
on phones just had an ICO and I want to say they raised
probably the largest ICO ever. Ethereum is this blockchain network
which has the opportunities and the code
built into it with smart contracts to raise money.
So like mentioned, Ethereum is a blockchain platform that moves beyond the cryptocurrency use case.
It uses smart contract technology to support solutions for things like identity and reputation
systems, file storage, banking, and insurance.
And here's one concrete example of an Ethereum DAP on the rise called Civic. Civic aims to help
protect users identity and provide blockchain-based secure, low-cost, on-demand access to identity
verification. This prevents the need to start from scratch every time someone requests a background
verification check for something like opening up a bank account or applying for a job.
With an example like this, it's easy to see why Bloomberg News writes Ethereum is the hottest platform in the world of cryptocurrencies and blockchains, and companies like JPMorgan Chase, Intel and Microsoft use their resources to invest in it. But I'll be honest with you, it wasn't easy for me to find a clear,
practical, live, and working example of a DAP
or cryptocurrency.
Can you talk about how companies and industries
and people find value in blockchain
and the types of services and use cases
there are for that technology?
Yeah, so I think right now,
a lot of people are liking the blockchain
Ecosphere and the development around blockchain to the internet
circa
1993
And that is that everyone's talking about this vast potential
But if one were to go back in the archives of the Internet of 1992 or 1991, there wasn't a lot
of commerce going on.
So to liken that to blockchain now, there are a lot of opportunities for applications,
but not everyone or all these applications are being enacted.
This is a really interesting point.
So what you've got to remember at the moment is that the whole of the cryptocurrency has
a $321 billion market cap today, and that's been as high as three quarters of a trillion
dollars in December last year.
Everything's really still in beta phase, and by beta phase, I mean, the fundamentally,
the technology doesn't really work in every day life at the moment.
So things I would Bitcoin transaction speeds, the advent of small contracts and sort of lots of corporations are poking
up, running them to see how they can work and fundamentally change their businesses.
So what we've created here is an industry where I think by the end of this year will be over
a trillion dollar market cap comfortably. We've created an industry here that cannavis almost
in this like R&D phase and if you talk about the internet and the advent of the internet,
we're kind of in the 1980s at the moment, and in equivalent,
I mean, obviously the internet really kicked in in the 90s,
mid to late 90s, it really blew up.
So we're kind of in the 80s.
So we're 10 years behind what we would deem as the sort of start of the internet.
However, because of the speed of which technology moves now, I don't think it will be a 10-year period. So I think over the next three or four years,
there's a compression will happen, and the market cap will continue to grow, and this brilliant
innovations will happen in these genius minds who've got access to capital now via initial coin
offerings will create some of the most magnificent technologies of the future. So it's a really exciting time.
I think what you're really finding the moment is that it's more of a gimmick. So a restaurant
will say we accept Dash and Monero and Bitcoin and it's more of a gimmick, which can get a bit
of press and profile and publicity. So I don't think in terms of main adoption, I think what we're
seeing is Bitcoin has a store of value, so people actually buying large amounts
of Bitcoin as a long-term hold, as an alternative to stocks and shares and gold.
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Here's the fun fact.
I happen to be recording this podcast on May 22nd,
which is known as Bitcoin Pizza Day.
Today, Bitcoiners all over the world
will celebrate the anniversary of the first real world
transaction of Bitcoin and the most expensive pizzas in history.
On May 22nd, 2010, a programmer paid a fellow Bitcoin user 10,000 BTC for two Papa John's
pizzas.
Back then, when the technology was just over a year old, that equated to about $25.
But that's worth over $5 million by today's exchange rate.
At Bitcoin's all-time high last December, the pizzas would have been worth over $11 million,
making them the most expensive pizzas of all time.
With growth like that, it's clear to see why nobody wants to buy anything with their
cryptocurrency and rather they choose to invest in it as a store of value.
But why is cryptocurrency growing so fast? And what makes
it so valuable? So as far as cryptocurrency is concerned, how can people trust it to be something
of value? Well, the reality is that they do trust it. Again, there are two Fiat currency, like
the dollar since 1971, is a unit of value that has value because the government says it has value.
Before 1971, it had value not just because the government said so,
but because it was coupled to the value of gold,
which people agreed has had value for thousands or years before that.
But the reason it has value is because enough people agree that it has value.
So that's all you really need.
Enough people need to agree that it has value.
And the reason that it really took off over the past couple years
is because it hit a critical mass where people are just saying,
wow, this is the new thing, the new internet of money,
I want to be a part of that as well.
When you have a cryptocurrency,
when there's very few outstanding
and there's a use case for it,
I think it can be very highly valued.
And so Bitcoin is predicated on the idea of scarcity.
There will only be 21 million Bitcoin ever.
Right now,
there have been over 17 million mind.
And so over the course of the next 100 years,
there will be fewer and fewer coins mind
to the point where, at some point, Bitcoin will only be a store of value.
This idea of scarcity makes Bitcoin different from a fiat currency like the USD.
Bitcoin was originally created to be a store of value similar to gold.
The value of the US dollar has eroded over the years because the Federal Reserve is allowed to print money.
In order to prevent Bitcoin from operating like fiat, Satoshi Nakamoto included a 21 million cap
on how many Bitcoins could ever exist.
This way, no one can simply boost the number
of bitcoins in the same way that the Fed just prints money. The market value of Bitcoin,
that is the money that people are willing to pay for it, follows the same old supply and demand
rule. A high demand increases its price and a low demand decreases it. The demand for bitcoins
is on the rise, yet its supply is limited.
So in theory, big coins will become more valuable in the future as scarcity sets in.
Medcalfe's law. Medcalfe's law highlights that as you add one user to the network,
it increasingly grows in value. So if you have 10 people using a cryptocurrency, then it goes up 10x. But
if you have 20 people or 30 people, and right now it was estimated, there's only about
20 million people in all the world who hold cryptocurrency. But if one were to run a
Medcalfe law on that network, whether that be Bitcoin or the whole cryptocurrency, Ecosphere in general, that's a very valuable network.
It's only really a crumb of a crumb in terms of market cap.
I mean, today, I think the whole entire cryptocurrency
Ecosphere is under 500 billion.
In terms of other asset classes,
only a drop in a bucket compared to real estate,
or the bond market, or the S&P 500. Any of the other
asset classes, it's such a small asset class. Can you talk about the importance of a cryptocurrency
community and why it's important to look at that community when considering investing in the space?
So Bitcoin would not be what it is today if millions of people were not there to lie
into it, to spend it, and to develop it. So whoever Satoshi Nakamoto is, who is first few people
who put together the system, whoever they are, they are not enough. This is bigger than one person or one group
of people. What made Bitcoin so powerful, what launched the blockchain and the Bitcoin
blockchain under the scene, was critical mass. So millions of people developing, mining,
spending, and talking about this.
What would you say to somebody who said that it's too late
to buy Bitcoin?
I would say it depends.
One is, what is your stomach for risk?
I know many people who bought Bitcoin at $12,000.
They were very excited when it ran at $20,000 and cashed out.
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So in terms of it, is it too late?
I tend not to be a Bitcoin maximalist
and I'm certainly not all together in favor
of what the D-Cred white paper
called the prototype coin, Bitcoin.
That was a prototype.
And many people, particularly the Bitcoin maximalists,
are gathering around the flag,
highlighting that Bitcoin will go to a million dollars. and many people, particularly the Bitcoin maximalists, are gathering around the flag, highlighting
that Bitcoin will go to a million dollars.
I don't know.
I'm not convinced by that argument because I see other algorithms that use a lot less
electricity and tend to be fairer.
Well, there's a couple of points here.
So first, I'll be clear that obviously none of this constitutes advice.
I'm not, nor is anybody a cryptocurrency advisor
because it's a very unregulated space.
But I think there will be cryptocurrency funds this year
that people will be able to access
by regulatory means, which will be interesting.
So, actually, if you look at Bitcoin today,
Bitcoin is the sixth largest currency in the world.
And when people say Bitcoin is dead and Bitcoin is doomed,
a Bitcoin is not here to stay. Number six in currencies in the world out of nearly 300 countries.
So Bitcoin's doing just okay. Now there is obviously a possibility that Bitcoin could go to zero.
There's a possibility that Bitcoin will here to a $250,000
of coin. You can't rule out those possibilities. But actually, there's also the possibility
of the dollar goes to zero, which most people think it already is. Same with the pound,
same with the euro, inflationary currencies. Just like any other currency, the interesting
thing about Bitcoin is Bitcoin doesn't act just as a currency. Bitcoin
acts as all three. So it kind of acts as a currency, like a dollar, so you can trade it. I can
go to a shop, send you with a Bitcoin card, and I can pay for my goods. It also acts as
a store of value, like a long-term store of value, which is then dictated by the share price going
up or down, so the price of Bitcoin, there's a currency going up or down. And also it
acts as a commodity, it's a good competitor to gold. So basically you have almost like
a three-pronged currency of Bitcoin, it's a very fascinating thing. And as you say, if
you actually think about the supply and demand of Bitcoin, all that's got to happen over the next 12 or 18 months with the current circulation of Bitcoin are
a few of the largest sovereign wealth funds, or maybe banks and institutions as a defensive
strategy, they want Bitcoin in case they get hacked, so they'll hold a lot on their accounts
for hacking and things like that.
If they start taking large tranches of Bitcoin out of the market
and removing those from the general people needing to invest through Coinbase,
that creates a huge supply and demand. So what you would potentially have is millions and millions
of people trying to buy about two or three million Bitcoin. And that creates the supply and demand.
So the price predictions, if you look at people
like Tim Draper, he's saying $250,000 coin by 2022, I wouldn't say that's going to happen. I think
we'll have a six figure sum per Bitcoin by then, but it will purely be driven by supply and demand.
I recently just read a paper where there's only 23 million Bitcoin wallets throughout the entire world.
Well, there are over 7 billion people on the planet.
And so if you think about network effects, let's say
it were to double or triple or let's say a billion people,
one seventh of all people in the world use cryptocurrencies.
The network effect and as a result,
the wealth generation of that would be exponential.
It's the most exciting gaming town because it's the intersection of finance, but more particularly,
magical math, particularly network effect.
In terms of investing in other cryptocurrencies, I mean, I would not veer away from anything that's a top 20 market cap. I think what we're doing is we are creating the next internet, which is the internet of
value.
And the companies that are in the top 10, maybe 50, maybe 20 market cap are all there because
they're the best of what they're doing, that specific industry.
So like IOTA is internet of things.
You've got Monero, which is privacy. You've got
Ethereum, Neo, which are the utility, smart contract type scenarios. But actually what
you do always have to bear in mind is that this industry moves so quickly and so fast,
there could be a new Ethereum in 12 months time that takes two thirds of Ethereum's market
share because it doesn't have scalability issues, it's quicker,
it works better, and it's quite a fickle industry that can move quite quickly, which is
kind of where it mirrors the tech bubble. So there are lots of different scenarios that
could play out. A very high percentage of these businesses will fail, because fundamentally
they are tech startups, and if you look at a VC model they expect 1810 to fail. It's a high-risk,
high-reward market. People shouldn't believe that this is a put your life savings in and it's
going to give you a tenfold return on your retirement pop because that's not the way to do this
because you could lose all your money. You have to be very careful. I think when we invest in,
and this was always the advice I think that's out there, is
only invest the amount that you can reasonably lose.
Why do you think that millennials should pay attention to cryptocurrency?
What are the reasons why we might need to pay attention to this, whether it be investing
or otherwise?
Well, I think, as I said that the cryptocurrency genie is out of the
bottle. It's not going away. Maybe Bitcoin will be replaced, right? Google was not the
first search engine and very few people remember what the major search engine was before
Google. So maybe a new cryptocurrency will emerge that will be bigger than Bitcoin.
Maybe Bitcoin over time will be marginalized.
But the blockchain and cryptocurrencies are here to stay.
And eventually, probably the traditional financial system will find a way to integrate the
blockchain and cryptocurrencies into it.
And the borders will cryptocurrencies into it.
The borders will blur and mesh.
So if you're interested in investing,
if you're interested in the new digital money,
I think cryptocurrency is going to stay with us
for a long time.
I think it's just getting started.
And I will not make any kind of investment and fights,
but I am a firm believer in the potential of the blockchain and in the future of cryptocurrencies
as a whole.
So I don't know which cryptocurrency is going to last for years to come, but I do know
that cryptocurrency is not going away.
Why should millennials pay attention to cryptocurrency?
Look, we have a global debt crisis,
trillions and trillions of dollars, all over the world.
And we have a scenario where the system is broken,
huge deficits in pension funds,
every single pension fund that's attached to a Fursuwank 100
company or NASDAQ company or a listed company, they are underfunded, they are billions and
trillions in deficit. We have to provide a future for ourselves. And the way the world
works, the way we work at the moment, we go to work, we get a salary, we pay something
to a pension, we save. Millennials are interested in that. Millennials need more stimulation in a more immediate way, and people
won't save for a 20 to 25 year outcome anymore. So people want more certainty, more security
around their future. So what you have is this ridiculously tech savvy group of people,
IE millennials in Gen Z, who are intrigued and inquisitive,
they want to save, they want to do the right things for the future. And cryptocurrency is
absolutely the ticket for these people. So a way of actually saving some money, being
in control of your money, away from the distrust of traditional financial institutions and
governments and banks, well then actually
making money from my own existence and my own data and what I do. This is the future of
the world. So people taking back a bit of control and being in charge of their own destiny
and being able to make a freer and fairer sort of future for themselves.
What an awesome episode. This is such an exciting time in the world! As our experts said,
while the types of cryptocurrency may change, crypto, as a concept, is here to stay. Learning
about cryptocurrency and keeping an ear out for what's new in the crypto world is crucial
for making the best choices for our futures. One of the most powerful parts of this episode
for me was talking about why young professionals
and millennials should be familiar with cryptocurrency and blockchain.
The potential of this new currency is unmatched, and the beauty is, it's still evolving.
This is just the beginning.
Think about it.
Most of this audio was taken from 4 years ago, and it's literally more relevant now than
it even was back then.
There is still time
to get involved. And so much has changed since then. So stay tuned for a lot more content
on NFTs, the Metaverse, Web3.0, and so much more coming soon on YAP. I feel super passionate
about getting my audience up to speed on all of these topics. So this is going to be
a major content focus for the next few months so that we can all get the right foundation we need to be effective and ensure that we stay
young and profiting. But remember, this is a high risk high reward market. We don't know how it's
going to change. So be cautious if you're considering investing. A good rule of thumb is only invest
what you're willing to lose. And lastly, it's okay if cryptocurrency and blockchain seem confusing or overwhelming.
Remember what our experts said.
You don't have to understand exactly how it all works.
You just need to understand how you can use it.
I think that's a really solid advice.
I hope this episode was a step in helping you understand how you can use these new currencies.
I know it was for me when I listened to it and studied it when I first put out these episodes
number two and three.
And you can listen to the unedited versions.
You can just scroll all the way back to episodes number two and three of YAP and hear the
full conversation.
It was about twice as long.
So it's a lot more information.
And if you've got the time, I highly encourage you to go listen to that.
We'll stick the links in the show notes.
Thanks to my YAP team for all their support and putting together this show.
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