Young and Profiting with Hala Taha - YAPSnacks: The Evolution of Sleep

Episode Date: December 3, 2021

Sleep has always been our constant companion! But what do we really know about its history and growth? Today on YAP Snacks, Hala will talk about the evolution of sleep while sharing tips and tricks f...rom professionals that we’ve spoken to in previous episodes.   Sleep is such a popular topic on this podcast because it’s ever-evolving. The more we learn about it the more we realize that the act of getting a good night’s sleep isn’t as simple as you may think! So in this episode, we will be looking to the past to see how our ancestors treated sleep, the present to learn how it developed with our rapidly growing society, and then into the future to see what sleep technology has in store for us! What we know about sleep is still expanding, but it's gone on an interesting journey… So let's get started!  Sponsored by -  Eight Sleep - Go to eightsleep.com/yap to check out the Pod Pro Cover and save $150 at checkout. Jordan Harbinger - Check out jordanharbinger.com/start for some episode recommendations. Stitcher - You can download Stitcher for free today at stitcherapp.com/yap   Social Media:   Follow YAP on IG: www.instagram.com/youngandprofiting Reach out to Hala directly at Hala@YoungandProfiting.com Follow Hala on Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/htaha/ Follow Hala on Instagram: www.instagram.com/yapwithhala Follow Hala on ClubHouse: @halataha Check out our website to meet the team, view show notes and transcripts: www.youngandprofiting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:24 because you'll love it here at Young & Profiting Podcast. Hey everyone, you're listening to YAPSNACs, a series of bite-sized content hosted by me, Halataha. Today, we're going to be talking about the evolution of sleep. Sleep is such a popular topic on this podcast because it's ever evolving. The more I learn about it, the more I realize that the act of getting a good night's rest isn't as simple as one may think. So in this episode, we'll be looking into the past to see how our ancestors treated sleep.
Starting point is 00:02:58 The present to learn how it developed with our rapidly growing society, and then we'll dive into the future to see what sleep technology has in store for us. So what we know is that sleep is still expanding, but it's gone on a really interesting journey, so let's get started. For as long as humans have roamed the earth, we've needed sleep. As civilizations evolved, so did the way that humans rested. Cultural shifts, migration, and technology advancements are all considered factors in the evolution of sleep. To get a full story we need to start at the very beginning. Like
Starting point is 00:03:36 I said, our ancestors have been sleeping before we knew any of these medical benefits, and there are a couple theories as to why. The first is the inactivity theory, which suggests that rest became a survival adaption that allowed us to be quiet and still during times when we would be most at risk from predators. The second theory is known as the energy conservation theory, which suggests that sleep allowed humans to minimize their need for energy, especially when food sources were scarce. Our ancestors used to actually sleep in two shifts, or what's called by basic or segmented sleep.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Following a by-basic sleep pattern didn't necessarily reduce the total number of hours they slept, but it reduced the overall sleep time and maximized their wakeful hours. Sleep onset was determined not by a set bedtime, but by whether there were things to do. With historical documentation of early hunter-gatherer and agriculture societies very limited, researchers have looked to present-day communities living in similar ways to assess the sleep habits of our ancient ancestors. In episode number 12, unlocking the power of sleep, one of our most popular episodes, I spoke with sleep expert Dr. Daniel Gartenberg about past accounts of African and South African tribes referencing a first and second sleep.
Starting point is 00:04:59 That's true. So, I mean, there's also like Canterbury Tales, they talk about the second sleep That's one of the things that sleep researchers have referenced regarding that so this idea that we should sleep eight hours Continuously through the night is a little bit not accurate It's totally normal to like wake up in the middle of the night put her around for a while and then go back to sleep if you can You know, it's better to go straight through but but that, having a nine-hour suggestion, is across the entire day. So it doesn't have to be a continuous block. And one of the interesting things in the science here is that when we were developing as a species, we were basically developing together in small groups.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And they do these studies that show like when they get objective measures of indigenous tribes that currently exist on their sleep patterns. Over like a three month period, I'm not going to get the exact numbers correct here, but like over the three month period, the whole tribe was asleep at the same time for only 30 minutes. So we naturally have a lot of individual differences when it comes to sleep, and there's morning people and evening people.
Starting point is 00:06:19 And so there's probably lots of different patterns of sleep that are ideal for different types of people. And it's sort of an evolution thing to make sure that there's always a member of a tribe that's awake at any given time in order to protect ourselves from predators. But if this way of sleeping worked so well in the past, why did it change? Dr. Daniel Gartenberg explains why sleep evolved so drastically from 10,000 years ago. And they actually have these studies where
Starting point is 00:06:50 they compare current civilizations to indigenous tribes and whatnot. Probably we are generally getting more sleep than we used to 10,000 years ago, because it's pretty stressful sleeping outdoors in these hot and comfortable environments and being afraid of predators. But since like the 50s, there's a Gallup poll for example that shows we're sleeping about an hour less than we did during that time. Probably due to things like television, keeping us up and other things. But one of the big things that you have to keep in mind here is that there's a difference
Starting point is 00:07:28 between sleep amount and sleep quality. Not all sleep is created equal. For example, like if you have an infection, you need to sleep more the next day. If you've worked out too much, for example, you need to have your body restored self by sleeping more. So I guess there's the question of if they're actually sleeping more, and then the main thing is, is their quality actually better so that seven hours feels more like seven and a half hours? Young and profitors, do you have a brilliant business idea but you don't know how to move forward with it?
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Starting point is 00:11:37 and business success led to increasingly shorter sleep periods. We compressed the first and second sleep into one, which is called monophasic sleeping, and that's what we practiced today. Societies attitude toward sleep dropped drastically, and we started to prioritize work and play over sleep. We started to wear our lack of sleep like a badge of honor. This new attitude grew even more with the development of technology in the 20th century. The blue light emitting from all of these mobile screens and laptops have tricked our brain into thinking that it's day out all the time, and it's disrupted our natural sleep cycles, circadian rhythms, and has constantly stimulated our brain. So what happens when a society, all of a sudden, starts to have lower quantity and poor quality of sleep.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It resulted in people developing sleep disorders, like insomnia, sleep apnea, narcopolepsy, and depression, just to name a few. In episode number 127, sleep habits for high performance, I spoke with Dr. MetaSync, a sleep medicine doctor and sleep performance consultant. Her focus is in sleep disorders and sleep medicine. She explained what kind of sleep disorders she comes across today.
Starting point is 00:12:50 So sleep medicine as a field is rather young, it's about 35 years old, and a sleep physician like I am, we are born to defy it and fellowship trained to evaluate and diagnose any sort of sleep disorder and then sleep it. And typically when people come to me, they have either they have difficulty initiating on sleep or maintaining sleep at night or how are they to sleepy or tired during the day or while they're asleep, there's something going on that they're not even aware of. So, people who snore loudly, who may have sleep apnea,
Starting point is 00:13:29 who may have, they may kick their legs a lot at night, and that might disrupt their sleep and that's results in excessive sleepiness during the day. So, those are the kind of patients I see. I see in my clinical practice. Dr. Mita Singh also explains how sleep medicine has allowed us to rediscover how important sleep is to every aspect of our daily life. And in fact, now we know that sleep affects every physiological function.
Starting point is 00:13:58 So every physiological function that you have is affected if you don't get enough sleep. So let's, we can start with the head, right? We know sleep exists deep in the brain. So you need sleep to pay attention to something. You know, for your reaction time, you need sleep for good judgment. If you don't get enough sleep, if you wake up in the morning, you're that part of the brain that's responsible for good judgment, multitasking, creativity, good decision-making, gets impaired while the emotional part of your brain becomes overactive. And can you imagine like there is no other fear, there's no job that people can do in
Starting point is 00:14:35 which that would be a good thing. You know, that has to be something that people want to avoid. For people like you, Halaa, creativity is really important. And that aspect of creativity, in which you take a new information, put it together with previously stored information, and then come up with new solutions or novel ideas, that happens while you're sleeping. It's so important.
Starting point is 00:14:58 So any information you take in during the day, memory consolidation happens at night. So that was just a brain. But in fact, and you know, the other thing I would say, mental health is, you know, so sleep has this bi-directional relationship with mental health. So if you don't get enough sleep, you're likely to be grumpy, you're more anxious, more less likely to be able to cope with the stresses of the next day. And you know, if you can't cope with these stresses,
Starting point is 00:15:25 then you're going to be more anxious and that's going to be a bad thing. And of course, if you go down the body, you know, your heart, your liver, your kidneys, your every organ you have has to have that nightly reset in which it prepares for functioning the next day. And that's what happens when you're sleeping. This episode of YAP is brought to you by Ate Sleep. Good Sleep is the ultimate game changer
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Starting point is 00:26:19 off an annual membership. Masterclass.com slash profiting. I think it's pretty clear that our current society as a whole need some improvement when it comes to our sleep habits. So what does the future of sleep look like for us? Well, sleep technology is super hot right now and it's only getting hotter. In fact, the sleep technology market is set to basically triple going from $11 billion in 2019
Starting point is 00:26:44 to a predicted $32 billion by 2026. And with better technology like sleep tracking and high-tech sleep products, we're getting better sleep. In episode number 143, the future of sleep, I had the chance to interview Mateo Franchetti, the CEO and co-founder of 8th Sleep. And here's what he had to say about this. We mentioned about the fact that in the future, it's going to be more about the quality of sleep and not the
Starting point is 00:27:11 quantity of sleep. We've been like drilled in our heads that it's, you know, 68 hours, 68 hours. But in reality, it could be less if we get deeper, better sleep, right? So, I actually came across the study and it's from late October from researchers from the Washington University School of Medicine. They released a study that says the optimal sleep duration might be closer to 4.5 and 6.5 hours every night.
Starting point is 00:27:37 So what is your opinion about how that age old like six to eight, seven to nine hours of is going to hold up in the next decade. What I think is your body needs a certain that amount of REM and deep sleep. Everything else is just your body being inefficient and so technology can help with that. And so my theory is substantially the amount of deep and REM that you need is equivalent to around four hours, right? And right now we need eight because there is extra four hours of inefficiency. And we can try to compress that through technology,
Starting point is 00:28:17 different types of technologies. So I think the best shot we have is probably to get into the four hours. I think that will be really perfection. I think if we could just sleep six hours and wake up being fully refreshed without hurting our health, our health span, our lives span, it would be pretty awesome, right? Because for some people, they would gain two hours every day, they'd be like me that they sleep more than six hours.
Starting point is 00:28:42 For others, maybe they're already sleeping six hours, but right now they don't feel great when they wake up in the morning and they always feel groggy and tired. At that point, we will just regenerate them. Sleep tracking is also on the path to advance in the future. As of now, there are three categories of sleep tracking technology, wearables, nearables, and aerables.
Starting point is 00:29:03 We're all accustomed to and maybe even use wearables already. These are your smart watches, so to speak. Nearables are tracking devices that you don't wear. Their devices like mattresses or mattress covers that you can set to automatically adjust to your perfect sleeping environment. An example of this is the propot cover by 8 sleep. And then there's Airables.
Starting point is 00:29:23 These are the newest form of sleep tracking and utilize wireless signals to capture information by 8 sleep. And then there's aerobols. These are the newest form of sleep tracking and utilize wireless signals to capture information about your sleep. Here's more from Mateo on how more data about sleep will change the way we live in the future. The key will be to first accumulate enough sleep data. Then the step to will be to start developing these correlations between your fitness,
Starting point is 00:29:46 your nutrition and your sleep. And based on that, we will be able also to predict the future of your health, right? I think the future for its sleep is not even to detect potential illnesses once they have already occurred. But to be able to come back to you and say, based on your life and your biometrics, if you continue in this direction, you might have a 60% chance to develop this illness in the next three years. And that will be based on patterns because you have already seen customers developing that. So that is how healthy a really change in will be disrupted, where we will not wait until
Starting point is 00:30:25 when we have a disease to discover that we have it, but to see an increase in probabilities to develop that disease years in advance. So you can change your lifestyle and avoid that problem. The outcome will be that you can be able to sleep on these six hours and we have fully refreshed. And so I'm going to bed. It will be more valuable than going to your doctor because devices like 8th sleep will scan your body, imagine a sort of MRI 3.0.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And so every morning you will have the full feature of your health. This will happen mainly contactless, so I don't think you will have to wear anything. Technology is getting there. So you will feel great, lot of energy, and you will have a full ownership and knowledge of your health. Well, there you have it folks. The future is bright.
Starting point is 00:31:12 We're at a pivotal moment in healthcare giving millions, if not billions, of individuals, the tools they need to improve their sleep. And I anticipate this massive increase in data will be a complete game changer for global health outcomes. And while many things about sleep and sleeping have changed throughout time, like sleeping two shifts instead of just sleeping one, and now all this cool technology that's coming out, the one thing that always remains constant is our quality need for sleep. How did you feel about this episode?
Starting point is 00:31:44 Tell me your main takeaways by dropping us a review on Apple, CastBox, Podbean, or your favorite podcast platform. Thanks so much for listening to this week's Yapp Snacks. Until next time, this is Hala, signing off. Are you looking for ways to be happier, healthier, more productive, and more creative? I'm Gretchen Rubin, the number one best-selling author of the Happiness Project. And every week, we share ideas and practical solutions on the Happier with Gretchen Ruben podcast.
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