Your Favorite Thing with Wells & Brandi - Calvin Wells From The Fyre Festival Documentary
Episode Date: February 1, 2019This week on YFT, Wells and Brandi welcome Calvin Wells to the show. He was a principle interviewee on BOTH Fyre Festival documentaries and the creator of the famous @FYREFRAUD twitter account. We g...et a truly fascinating behind the scenes look at the documentaries and Cal reveals some shocking information that wasn't talked about in either of the films. The duo also talk The Bachelor, The Ted Bundy documentary and of course their new favorite songs. This is a can't miss episode!
Transcript
Discussion (0)
All right, guys, a lot has changed over the last years, and if you're growing your e-commerce
business, yeah, you can relate. Whether you're looking for better efficiency during the hectic
holiday season or your business has outgrown your old shipping solutions, you need ShipStation to
help you scale your business. ShipStation helps you achieve exceptional shipping efficiency with
a robust all-in-one fulfillment system that integrates with over 180 of the most popular e-commerce platforms,
marketplaces, and carriers. Listen, the holiday season is right around the corner. Odds are that
you guys are probably selling stuff on e-commerce. If you're shipping, you got to do it with ShipStation.
Lead your business into the future with technology built to save you time, extra costs, and headaches.
It's the fastest, most affordable way to ship products to your customers with discounts built to save you time, extra costs, and headaches. It's the fastest, most affordable way to ship products
to your customers with discounts up to 89% off
UPS, DHL, Express, and USPS rates.
What, you don't want to save money?
Come on.
Deliver a better customer experience
with industry-leading features
that help you find the best carrier rates,
print labels, and make customer service a breeze, dude.
Scale your e-commerce business with shipping software that delivers.
Switch to ShipStation today.
Go to ShipStation.com and use code YOURFAVORITETHING to sign up for your free 60-day trial.
That's even more savings.
That's ShipStation.com.
Code YOURFAVORITETHING.
Do it.
Do you have your bell?
Oh, let me go get it.
Oh, dude, come come on it's like the
one thing got it dude we are we are seriously cooking with gas right now we are so professional
i could die brand i has a new microphone new mic who dis we're on skype so i can see you
so anyways hi you got a bell you're in denver are you in
denver huh you got a bell i got a bell we can freaking hear each other you can hear the music
that i'm playing like we are on a different level of badassery right now i'm just proud of us
and like where we've come we've really started 2019 with a bang like we've really just taken
yft to the max level i know man you know
i was thinking about if heaven exists uh-huh you think there are people in heaven they're like man
i hope he dies soon so we can hang out you know um you know i'm saying yeah i feel like this is a
much deeper conversation than than what you probably were thinking when you started it
yeah i know i just think I was just thinking about like,
because like, you know, one of like the perks,
the pros of like dying and going to heaven
is you get to like hang out with like people
that have passed that you miss, right?
I just wonder if it's a two-way street
where they're like, man, I hope he dies soon
so we can hang out.
Like I've missed hanging out with Wells.
I mean, it's possible.
I kind of have like, I don't know.
I don't really know what I think heaven is,
but I feel like it's my mom maybe
who has this theory that when we get to heaven,
that we don't really have any recollection
of life on earth.
So when you're born,
you don't remember anything beforehand.
Your mind's kind of wiped.
And so when you die, it wipes again.
Yeah, heaven's the same.
That's what my mom thinks.
I don't know if I disagree with that. Do I have a dog in here? Oh, again same that's what my mom thinks i don't know
if i disagree with that i have a dog oh i do have a dog in here i don't know if i disagree with that
i was just thinking about that you know i uh my sister is uh she's pregnant with her fourth child
marisa is and like a lot of kids dude i know man all my sisters both my sisters they never found
out what they were having oh really yeah it's like their thing which, and I was like, you don't want to have a gender
reveal party.
Then I was thinking about like the original, the OG gender reveal party is just going to
the hospital, you know?
And having the child.
And it's having the child.
It's unfortunate your vagina doesn't like shoot out like pink dust or like light blue
dust before the baby comes out, you know?
Like, oh my God, that would be awesome.
Okay, so wait do
they like plan out different options for girl and boy names ahead of time like they have an option
for each yeah she ran them by me the other day but she's got she got she's got uh i don't know
she might be mad if i do this in the podcast but she's got she's got three boys right now and i was
like i was like you're having a girl like 100 having a girl they're like she's like you don't
know that and i was like yeah like statistically speaking you're having a girl. Like 100% having a girl. And they're like, you don't know that.
And I was like, yeah.
Statistically speaking, you're having a girl, bro.
Think about it.
If I flip a coin three times and it comes up heads every single time, statistically speaking, me getting tails is much better on the fourth try.
It's true.
But I feel like I know a lot of people that only have boys.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I want her to have a girl. One, because I want the Yeah, I don't know. I want her to have a girl.
One, because I want the boys. You do?
Yeah, I want a little niece from her.
I think that'd be great.
I think it'd be great for her.
I think it'd be great for her husband.
It's just such a masculine household.
You need to have a little subtlety.
You need to have a little softness of a little girl.
See, I only want boys.
If I have a girl, I'm going to be very upset.
Yeah.
But I was talking to her about the gender reveal thing.
I was like, do a gender reveal party.
She's like, I'm not fucking doing that, dude.
It's my fourth kid.
Why would I do that?
And I'm like, it'd be really funny.
You know, like, you pop a balloon, and it shows you the color.
But I thought it'd be funny.
I was like, no, you should do, you should have color be like not light blue or pink have it be like black and everyone be like oh my god
what does this mean does this mean that she slept with a black man they're having a like a mixed
race baby or is it like a goth child you know of all colors you pick black really well yeah it's
like oh because i love black like it could have picked yellow, which is gender neutral.
But no, you picked black.
That's such a stupid millennial thing to do.
Be like, our baby doesn't identify as a gender yet,
so we're going with the color yellow.
Also, vegan tacos are around the corner.
So, go. Oh my gosh, with gluten-free the corner. So go.
Oh my gosh.
With gluten-free chips.
Thanks, bye.
Yes.
Anyways.
Wow.
You want to start?
Yeah, I think it's your turn to start the show.
Bros and hoes, you're listening to Your Favorite Thing Podcast with... Wells and Brandy.
Ay, ay, ay.
I noticed that you do that a lot.
You go...
Ay, ay, ay.
Are you reenacting the sound of that thing you hear at soccer games?
I don't think so.
You mean like a foghorn?
Yeah, but you know you hear them at clubs and soccer games.
Yeah, like a foghorn.
Like, brr, brr, brr, brr.
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
That's it.
So that's a different sound, actually, than the A, A, A. But I do love like a foghorn. Like, brr, brr, brr, brr. Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. Yeah.
So that's a different sound, actually, than the A, A, A.
But I do love a good foghorn.
Actually, I need to get an app with like a foghorn sound to use occasionally.
Well, now that you have, we're doing this through Skype, you know, you can download.
You can download a.
Sound effects?
Yeah, you can download a board.
And you can put the sound effects in the board.
And then you can just click on it when you want it to play in the podcast. i'm into that i would do it but i got a lot of things going on on
my end so i'm gonna put this on your plate we're getting real fancy with yft guys dude yft is
coming to the peeps it's on the come up it's on the come up brah yeah all right so starting a
healthy routine and sticking to it are like two very different
things yeah we all skimp on that full night of sleep we skip the workout and we brush our teeth
with an old tired toothbrush you know yeah like no one's perfect but i feel like we can do better
like in 2019 we should be able to do better and quip let's just be honest it's the better electric
toothbrush that can help maybe this will be my one year's resolution actually this is the one thing
you'll be better with your teeth yeah it's it's like it's like New Year's same
brandy, but like better teeth. Yeah, like less gingivitis. Exactly. I'm just such an idiot. Like
I never know like how long is long enough to brush your teeth, you know, right? The quip toothbrush
has a built in two minute timer that like pulses every 30 seconds
to remind you like when to switch sides and like help you clean your whole mouth like completely.
Totally. And you know, I really love that it comes with this cover that also mounts to your mirror.
So when I'm at home, I stick it to the mirror and it's right there for me every day. But then
when I travel, I have a case to put it in. Yeah. I also mount it on the mirror when I'm traveling because you don't know what's on like the
counters in hotels.
This is true.
Like I've done some weird stuff on counters in hotels.
Let's just be real about that.
Yeah.
And it's so good for traveling because there's no wires.
You don't plug it in.
It runs for three months on one battery.
And then when you get your refill packs, which are so cool, it comes with that new battery.
Gotta love some Quip.
And that's why over 1 million happy, healthy mouths love Quip as well.
And Quip just starts at 25 bucks. And if you go to getquip.com slash YFT, like your favorite thing,
right now you can get your first refill pack for free.
That's your first refill pack free at G-E-T-Q-U-i-p dot com slash yft clean teeth that's still my favorite
like outro of it you did it once and it like really tickled me so i saw a question come in
so you know like last episode we um we called or we had people send in stuff on snapchat like
what their favorite thing was i really liked that actually, actually. We need to do that more. I know.
And so someone asked, what's our favorite thing to do on a road trip?
Like snacks, music, all that stuff.
I thought it was a good question.
Great question.
Do you know your answer?
I like beef jerky.
By the way, I say beef jerky wrong.
I say beef jerky.
And it's beef. You do?
Yeah.
Why do you say it like that? I don't know. Because I'm an idiot. That's very weird. It's spelled jerky wrong i say beef turkey and it's you do yeah why do you say it like that i don't know
because i'm an idiot that's very weird it's spelled jerky i know i always say beef jerky
what's wrong strange so i like beef i like beef i like beef jerky even though it makes my car smell
like a fart and everyone hates it you know but i and i is that technically what a Slim Jim is? Yeah, but that's not beef jerky.
I don't know.
That's a meat stick, which just...
I know.
Here's the thing, dude.
I freaking love Slim Jims, too.
You do?
Love them.
Dude, I don't know.
I cannot.
I don't know.
I don't understand why beef jerky has got to be so expensive.
Why does this cost $15 what's
happening jerky jerky is also expensive all the jerky's i this thing they had like a like a jerky
conference and they're like let's no one knows what this costs let's just have it be $17 yeah
and if everyone charges $17 people will pay it i know i wonder if there's like some sort of like
jerky union where they're like listen you can't get in the game unless you all agree to gouge price all these idiots at gas stations. Because I've made beef jerky on a Cooking with Wells episode, and it's not expensive.
Right.
And or hard.
Really?
What's your go-to?
to? My go-to road trip snack. I just love gummy bears. It's like my go-to. Gummy bears, gummy worms, sour gummy worms, sour patch kids, anything gummy. All right, quick PSA for those of you out
there who rent. If you haven't heard of Built, you're about to thank me. Earning points on rent
is now a reality when you pay your rent through Built. You don't even have to check with your
landlord to start earning points that you can use towards flights, hotel stays, fitness classes, and even your next rent payment. All right,
let me break it down for you. There's no cost to join build. And as a member, you'll earn valuable
points on rent and your everyday spending. Built points can be transferred to your favorite hotels,
airlines, and even the ones you haven't heard of. There are over 500 airlines and 700,000 hotels
and properties around the world
you can redeem your built points towards.
Points can even be redeemed
towards the future rent payment
and unique experiences that only built members can access.
So start earning points on rent you're already paying
by going to joinbuilt.com slash YFT.
That's joinbuilt, J-O-I-N-B-I-L-T.com slash YFT. That's joinbuilt, J-O-I-N-B-I-L-T dot com slash YFT.
Make sure to use our URL so they know we sent you. Again, joinbuilt.com slash YFT to start
earning points on your rent payments today. All right, guys, a lot has changed over the last
years. And if you're growing your e-commerce business, yeah, you can relate. Whether you're
looking for better efficiency during the hectic holiday season
or your business has outgrown your old shipping solutions,
you need ShipStation to help you scale your business.
ShipStation helps you achieve exceptional shipping efficiency
with a robust all-in-one fulfillment system
that integrates with over 180 of the most popular e-commerce platforms,
marketplaces, and carriers.
Listen, the holiday season is right around the corner.
Odds are that you guys are probably selling stuff on e-commerce.
If you're shipping, you got to do it with ShipStation.
Lead your business into the future with technology built to save you time, extra costs, and headaches.
It's the fastest, most affordable way to ship products to your customers with discounts up to 89% off
UPS, DHL, Express, and USPS rates.
What, you don't want to save money?
Come on.
Deliver a better customer experience
with industry-leading features
that help you find the best carrier rates,
print labels, and make customer service a breeze, dude.
Scale your e-commerce business
with shipping software that delivers.
Switch to ShipStation today. Go to ShipStation.com and use code YOURFAVORITETHING to sign up for your
free 60-day trial. That's even more savings. That's ShipStation.com. Code YOURFAVORITETHING.
Do it. Can I tell you why I don't like gummy? Don't tell me what's in it because I know what's
in it. Yeah, and you're a horse lover. it's actually usually cow hooves not horse hooves isn't that weird though the gelatin
from yeah why do we use hooves in gummies because it's like like it's like so hooves are actually
made of a similar um substance that like keratin in your hair and in your nails yeah it's like it's
like the similar thing and hair like and it, I know it's weird, but it's actually very, like, stretchy.
And that's, I think, the same kind of idea of pulling the keratin out of a cow's hooves for gummy bears.
All right.
So you like to eat hair is what you're telling me.
Sure, yeah.
Super dope.
Super cool.
Super dope, dude.
I really think you ruined eggs for a lot of our listeners last week.
Listen, they got to fucking deal with the truth, all right? I'm coming in firing with the truth. And you know what? nope dude i really i really think you ruined eggs for a lot of our listeners last week listen
they got a fucking deal with the truth all right i'm coming in firing with the truth and you know
what a lot of people like try to come at me seem like that's not what it is and i was like yeah it
is and then they looked it up and they're like yeah okay that's what it is it's and they're like
thanks i can't eat eggs anymore yeah sorry it's fine we eat weird stuff all the time it's so funny
to me like people get so hung up on like... I was watching The Bachelor last night
and they were eating weird stuff in Singapore.
By the way,
F-U
ABC, you guys sent me to
Nemecolon, Pennsylvania.
They went to Singapore
right out the gate?
You gotta be kidding me.
I was surprised by that.
Everyone's like,
I could never eat that. In just what's in your mind what's the difference you know it's the same what an eyeball okay why is that gross to you why is this why is the consistency why is the
leg muscle totally under like totally fine for you to eat but an eyeball is it's just all meat
right is an eyeball meat it's
all the same we're all made of the same i don't think so all right the eyeball's a little different
let's be honest here i don't care who it is i'm sorry i would never eat any of the things that
were on that date no i would have had no problem saying that and being like i'm not eating this
stuff so see you guys later wow it was disgusting, but then you're that chick, you know?
I don't care.
Don't care.
That's the one thing.
I will be adventurous, but I will not eat pig's feet and eyeballs.
And well, I can't.
No, that's where I draw the line.
Dude, pig's feet is good, man.
Not to mention those eating things like that that aren't in your normal diet would probably
make you so sick.
And so you're going to be all the way over in frickin.
Where are they?
Singapore on a date and have like explosive diarrhea.
No, thank you.
Dude, straight up facts in and out.
Burger just gives me diarrhea.
A media, immediate diarrhea.
And you know what?
I'm not fucking stopping.
All right.
Imagine why?
Because I eat it all the time and it doesn't do that to me.
Immediately get bubble guts.
Immediately get the bubble guts.
That is so strange.
Imagine you have a product so good that it gives your customers diarrhea and they're like,
they don't care.
Fuck it.
Double, double, please.
Animal style.
Give me all the goddess Rhea.
How do you eat your your uh in and out fries
extra crispy or extra well too extra well done is the way to go it's like only i dude i love it
now even though it gives me diarrhea like maybe like i don't know guys maybe not give me diarrhea
can we fix the recipe but their fries suck all right but extra crispy it makes them palatable but i agree but like i
actually like them extra crispy yeah i do too but like we you know that their head chef at in and
out has been to a mcdonald's fucking had those fries and they're bomb fucking replicate that
dude i don't understand just do it well i'm pretty sure in and out fries are much healthier
like they're cooked healthier than mcdon McDonald's fries are cooked in animal fat.
Did you know that?
Yeah, I don't care.
Great.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying In-N-Out like prides itself on being like a healthier fast food chain, I think.
I don't care about that.
This shit's giving me diarrhea.
I want the good fries.
You're abnormal though.
Most people in California care about that.
I don't care about that.
All right.
I want my In-N-Out burger.
You're just going to have to go get your fries at McDonald's.
You're going to have to go through two drive-thrus.
I mean, it's not the worst idea in the world, to be honest with you.
So how do I do In-N-Out?
I don't do animal style burger.
This is what Sarah's got me onto, man.
God, this is why I love her.
She doesn't get double doubles.
She gets two cheeseburgers.
Interesting.
Why is that? I don't know. Because it's's a fucking good idea and then you get two burgers and the
list even more diarrhea double the fries and double the fries that you hate yeah no no no
i do i do a cheeseburger onion i like raw onion on my burger you like onion i put onion in everything
i like to cook stuff with onion in it and but
just for taste but i don't like to eat actual onions yeah what's your go-to for in and out
oh my my postmates is here can you please hold is it in and out no we don't have that here hello
oh yeah hey i'll be down in one sec so we should be an ad why aren't we getting sponsored by
postmates hey brb yeah yeah i'm just gonna talk to our fans over here we should be sponsored by Postmates. Hey, BRB. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just going to talk to our fans over here. We should be sponsored
by Postmates.
We just did it on the show.
She fucking got a call
from Postmates
while we're doing the show
and we're not sponsored
by Postmates.
Postmates,
if anyone from the ad department
is listening to this,
and you should
because it's a great podcast,
can you send over an offer
so we could get some money?
Please?
Okay.
I wonder what she got, though.
She didn't have anything out over there.
Anything that's Mexican food?
I don't know.
I bet you it's a salad.
I'm going with this.
100%.
She got a salad.
It's going to be so, there's just going to be too much shit in it.
All the stuff.
It's going to be like goat cheese.
Weird stuff you wouldn't want in a salad.
Nuts, berries, no onion, apparently,
because she didn't like onion, which is stupid, you know? What else? While she's going to freaking,
where is, where did she go? Okay, while she's walking to the store, I'm gonna read this tweet.
Katie, my lady, said, catching up on episodes and just want to let you know that Bird Box was a book
up on episodes and just want to let you know that bird box was a book which came out before a quiet place lol the book is eons better than the movie must read what are you talking about hey what'd
you get you get a salad i got a kale salad with salmon called it i was just reading a tweet we
got so it's katie my lady by the way did you walk to the store to get your post? Did you walk to the Postmates headquarters?
My apartment is so far from the main lobby,
and I feel bad making them bring it all the way to the front door,
so I always go down and get it.
Oh, you're a nice person.
It's far.
Katie, my lady, tweeted,
catching up on episodes and just want to let you know that Bird Box is also a book,
which came out way before A Quiet Place,
and the book is eons better than the movie must read.
Hashtag your favorite things.
Can we just stop saying the book is better than the movie?
Because that's-
It always is.
There's never been a book that was worse than the movie.
It's true.
100% of the time.
Did you hear that Joelle and Jordan got a TV show?
Yeah.
By the way, I called this three years ago or two years ago.
I remember texting her being like,
why don't you have your own like Chip and Joanna Gaines fix them up show?
I was like,
do you do it?
I'll host it.
This would be great.
And she's like,
Oh,
that's funny.
Thanks for saying that.
And I was like,
no,
you shouldn't.
What are you?
I'm not joking.
Do it.
And then guess what happened?
Now she's done with Jordan.
I mean,
not a bad,
it's a good idea.
It's a good idea,
but no,
no one will ever be as good as Chip and Joannaanna gains i want to be friends with them i want
to hang out with them you know i want to be one of their kids oh yeah i think the best they're
pretty great but like their love of shiplap and subway tile just shiplap is everything shiplap is
ever i bet your mom loves some shiplap love yeah that's a fave that's a fave thing by the way so
we so someone asked a question about
a fair thing on a road trip, and you said gummies.
Oh, yeah.
It reminded me of this story.
I was on a road trip with my ex,
and my ex was, she was very well endowed
in the chest region, right?
She had some big old boobs.
Yes.
Some big old mastodon titties is what i used to say and she didn't like
that so we're on a road trip we were on a road trip going to her parents place or whatever and
uh and she went we we stopped at a rest stop and she went in the bathroom and then uh she came out
and she was like the weirdest thing just happened and i was like what just happened and she was like
this woman came in there and she said that how how great my my breasts look and i was like what's
weird about that? You know?
And she was like, that's just a weird thing to say to someone in the bathroom.
And I was like, not really.
I mean, guys say that all the time.
And she was like, wait, what guys say like nice dick in the bathroom?
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, not nice dick.
They generally, they, they, that's gay.
You know, but they'll say like nice balls.
And she's like, well, I don't understand why, how, why your balls out?
And I'm like, oh, you know, like on, especially on long, long i don't understand why how why your balls out and i'm
like oh you know like on especially like long long road trips you take your balls out to like air
them out a little bit because you've been sitting in there sweaty you know it's kind of gross
and then interesting and then usually the guy would be like look over the thing be like oh
like nice sack you know or whatever and she's like that's so she's like guys are so freaking
weird and i'm like i know know. Right. We're crazy.
So like her.
Is this real?
People really do that.
This cannot be real.
So I tell her this.
She was like.
So the thing that you come up with for content.
Years go by.
Years.
And one night we's like Thanksgiving dinner.
I'm like with her entire family.
And her dad, who I liked a lot.
He was a nice guy.
He had three daughters, and one of which was the girl I was dating.
And he was like, you know, they were like being goofy and silly, silly, silly gooses.
And they were like, he was like, man, you girls are crazy.
My girlfriend at the time goes, we're crazy?
Oh, no.
What about guys going into journals and leaning over and saying nice balls on road trips?
That's so weird.
Girls aren't weird.
Guys are weird.
And dad was like, what are you talking about?
And I was like, oh.
You are a terrible person.
By the way.
You are terrible.
Not a true story and she was like for the past
three years or two whatever how long we were dating she was like i thought that that was
real i've been telling people about this for so long why did you tell i was like oh i just forgot
to tell you the truth about that oh my gosh i remember this other time i was i was driving i
was with uh like a like a good buddy's
girlfriend we were driving like i think we were driving down to his house from college and we
were going through there's a town it's called gluckstadt do you remember that town it's it's
outside of no it's in mississippi or tennessee it's called gluckstadt and the the girlfriend
of my buddy was like what do you call this word gluckstadt? And I was like, oh, it's actually like this crazy
story. And she was like, what happened? And I was like,
man, there was a murderer that terrorizes
town at the turn of the century
and he used to beat
people to death with
what's known as a Gluckstadt stick.
And she was like, what's a Gluckstadt stick?
And I was like, ah, it's
similar to a lacrosse stick
but it was used by by like native americans and like this guy would like wield one round and just
like murder all these people and so he did a lot of his murdering in this one town uh and so now
they call it gluckstadt because of the weapon he used and she was like interesting years go by
and she calls me and like we're not even friends anymore and she calls me
and she was like you ass that is not how the town got his name it's not a gluckstadt murderer
that's not a real and she's like and i looked into it that's also not a stick that native
americans use for lacrosse and i was like oh yeah no i know i made that entire thing up so anyways if i tell you anything on a road trip i'm a lion i cannot with all of your lies i truly can't it's not really
lies so much as it's uh entertaining stories for me wait i have a question have you ever
dated somebody and not gotten along with their family no because like it's a big deal like
getting along with a fan oh totes my like big girl like
big girl not not inside but like the high school and in college girlfriends uh-huh yeah like i
don't i think her family didn't like my family oh i think they liked me just fine but like they were
jewish liberals and i come from a conservative catholic family it was just like
tough you know yeah but i will say like parents love me man i i really do a good job with parents
i know my parents love you see you do you do a good job parents love me too though so
oh yeah everyone everyone loves you but like Yeah. I'll give that a ding.
I do really well with dads, specifically.
Like, dads really love me.
I'm good with parents.
I can talk to anybody.
That's the key, though.
You know?
If you can talk to anybody about whatever their bullshit is, you know, all anyone wants to do.
If you want someone to like you, all you got to do is ask them about their shit, and they
will love you.
That's true.
Because people are so egotistical.
Yeah.
Can we talk about The Bachelor more? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah you've been watching did you watch last night
oh yeah man we had we had uh our good buddies come over we're starting to get in into uh like
couples friends i love i love a good couple friend yeah trevor and his wife alex trevor is an actor
i'll give a shout out he's on the show magicicians he is literally one of the funniest people I've ever met
in my entire life
check it out
and like actually
I hated watching
The Bachelor with him
because he's funnier than me
when watching it
and I'm like
judging all my jokes
and stuff
so yeah
we're living in
couple land
so yeah
we had them over
and I liked the episode
yeah
I
there were just a lot of things
in that episode
I would never do.
Bungee jumping, no.
Eating gross things, no.
And also, like, if I'm going to bungee jump, I want to bungee jump, like, over some, like, gorgeous body of water or something.
Or in some, like, really scenically beautiful place.
The place they took me to bungee jump was so lame.
It was, like, over this teeny tiny little pool.
Yeah, I know.
There had to be somewhere cooler in Singapore to bungee jump. Dude, and when, what this teeny tiny little pool yeah i know and there had
to be somewhere cooler in singapore to bungee jump dude and when what's the girl's name that
that went on that date tasia i think tasia when she you when she jumped off she didn't go like
she didn't dive do it right no and she you know she snapped that neck oh my god man when she
jumped off i was thinking like who jumps jumps bungee jumps like that feet first?
That makes zero sense.
Well, you know, someone that's never bungee jumped
before. It's like
common sense. Your feet are tied.
It doesn't make all the sense in the world to go head
first. It made me
cringe. That definitely had to hurt.
I know. I think she's cool.
She's one of my favorites. Who are your favorites?
I just love to hate Demi, dude.
I love to hate Demi.
Same.
She's getting people kicked off left and right.
Like, that is what I don't like, is that Colton's not like, okay, I'll keep Demi around.
But, like, if I keep giving her these wins of people that she doesn't like going home,
then I'm setting up a bad, you know for everyone you know sure because it's kind of
setting up like if you just come to me and bitch about something long enough i'll just yeah i'll
let him go yeah yeah although he did keep um hannah even though kaylin said bad things about
her that drama between them is saddam i don't well i know but guaranteed like in casting they
probably figured that out that
they don't like each other and we're like oh this is perfect i mean it's setting up for a two-on-one
for sure yeah exactly i hope you know what i hope they're both so beautiful it's like
war of like the pretty girls you know totes the alabama one she like opens her mouth real big
and she's like stealing olivia's i know i was gonna going to say like you're very Olivia-ing it up right now
Although her teeth are perfection
Have you ever noticed? I have not
Oh my god next time she opens her mouth
Her teeth are perfect
So who are your faves?
Pick three faves
Speech pathologist is going to win in my eyes
I know you already know so don't like
Tip me off I think speech pathologist
Is going to win I don't even know what her name is, but she's a speech pathologist.
Her name is Cassie.
Cassie.
She's one of my faves, too.
But I want to see more of her.
Right now, I feel like they're not showing much of her personality, and it's annoying.
Yeah, but they're showing her up.
We talked about this last time.
They're showing her enough to be like, why are you showing me this chick?
Unless she's big down the line, why am I getting any comments from her about Hannah and North Carolina?
Whatever.
I just like how normal she seems, but usually normal people don't get much airtime.
Yeah.
And that's frustrating to me.
I'm like, don't reward the girls with terrible personalities just because they're bigger personalities.
Like, I want to see more of Cassie.
Yeah.
And then Tayshia is another one of my favorites.
And again, I like her because she's very normal and seems very down to earth.
And if she hadn't had a date this week i wouldn't have said i knew very much
about her either um so it was nice to like see her get a one-on-one because i feel like you got
to see more of her and i really like kaylin which one's that one kaylin's the one she's the she's
the other pageant girl oh north carolina that yeah well she's the one that has the story about
being sexually abused and stuff i know i
thank god i i was doing drunk drunk snapchat last night and i was gonna make fun of that date and
that i just i just didn't have anything like good enough to make fun of or whatever and i was like
thank god i didn't because sex she totally opens up and you know it's a sad story it's fucked up
dude call it i i'm glad i got kicked out of fraternity i'm just gonna say it right now
that's like one of them thank god wait what'd you do to get kicked out?
I didn't pay.
Oh my God.
Well, they caught me smoking pot on a pledge retreat.
Oh, that's cool.
And they made me a second semester pledge.
They punched me for that.
And I was like, we're going camping.
Is this not what this, we're,
everyone's like binge drinking Everclear.
Like a couple of us got caught smoking pot in the forest.
And I was like, what?
I thought this is what this was all about.
We're going fucking camping.
And I remember the president of the fraternity kicking me out.
You know what he was known for?
He was known for taking acid and playing in a football game,
like in high school.
Like it was like one of the like, oh man,
he played in a park and he lit it up.
You know, like one of those stupid stories.
And they were like, you know, we got to make you a second semester pledge because we caught you smoking pot.
And I was like, what?
Your claim to fame?
I never took acid and played football, you know.
I just smoked a little pot on a camping trip.
Like, it would be weird if you didn't smoke pot in a camping trip.
I would kick someone out.
If you joined a fraternity and didn't smoke pot in a camping trip, you're fucking with you weird bro so maybe it's like a semester but then they kicked you out for not
paying yeah so they made me a second semester pledge and then i was like i'm not gonna pay
these guys and then so i like went to all the parties and did all the things and they were like
you owe us like four grand and i was like i don't have it later so that was that's more than my
entire like tuition for a semester oh i know I know. It was such bullshit, man.
So anyways, I'm really happy that I'm just not that guy.
I don't have like, oh God, guys with their Greek letters tattooed on their ankle.
Shut it.
Get out of here, please.
Get out.
Get out right now.
Take your vodka soda with you.
Get out now.
Oh my God. I have a question with you. Get out now. Oh my God.
I have a question for you.
What do you got?
Tell us about your Shorty Award nomination.
Oh my God.
Isn't this the funniest thing in the world?
Okay.
I just like, I was reading a list and it was like Ariana Grande and people like that.
And then Wells Adams.
And I was like, how is Wells on this list?
Wait, so do you know what this is?
The Shorty Awards?
No, I don't know.
I didn't either.
Yeah.
So I got a tweet yesterday from the Shorty Awards and I would have never seen it but they got one of those blue checks so it
must be legit and it says uh hashtag shorty xi nominees for storyteller of the year are
aminatu sao are in a grande heard her army hammer which that sounds like a 80s rapper caroline calloway which obviously is
the heiress to the golf company calloway diet prada which is i would assume aquafina's best
friend eva gutkowski which that's not a real person hillary duff love hillary jonathan van
ness joven hill which is everyone knows that jonah hill's
illegitimate brother lily reinhardt is that a model that model she's on riverdale okay
the blonde girl from riverdale nisi nash which that can't be a real thing and wells adams
at least they put you last i mean straight, straight up, but like really storytelling.
This is what I do every day.
What are the Shorty Awards though?
Can you explain that? I think it's like social media awards.
I think.
Sarah knew.
I was like, I don't know what this is.
Let's go to the website and see what it says.
Can people vote for you?
Yeah.
Oh, I want to go do that.
How do I do that?
Oh, here are the pictures of everyone.
Jonathan Van Ness, he's on Queer Eye.
He'll win, probably.
The Shorty Awards, the best of social media.
Millions of people participate in the Shorties
to recognize individuals and organizations
producing great content on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube,
Instagram, Twitch, TikTok, and the rest of the social web.
Wow.
I mean, I'm honored, but dumb because this American life is a thing, you know?
Yeah.
Like, what about from WBED in Chicago?
I'm Ira Glass.
This is this American life.
What about that guy?
That guy's a storyteller.
Why is he not on this?
You know what?
I think you just need to take it and be appreciative.
I'm proud of you, to be honest, I mean, this is very cool. Do you think I'm a good storyteller on social media? I do. You're not just like, oh, he's drunk again,
watching the bachelor or, oh, he's doing that. That's your thing. And like your cooking well
segment is just really, it's, it's my favorite. I know. I shouldn't try to make that into a TV
show. I really think you should,
or at least like a YouTube series or something you can make money on.
So I guess I tweeted it out.
If you want to go vote for me for Storyteller of the Year, go for it.
I'm going to vote for you.
All right.
Thank you.
Yeah.
What are you watching lately?
Oh, the Ted Bundy thing. That's what I'm watching.
I've got about 20 minutes left of that.
But that is. I'm not that far in. I've got about 20 minutes left of that. But that is...
I didn't know the story of him.
I know. I didn't really either.
And now Zac Efron is going to be doing
the movie, which is weird.
Because I think of Zac Efron as being a comedian.
You know?
Yeah, but I think he's been trying to do
a few more serious roles.
But I'm much more excited for the movie.
I think Zac Efron's going to be a ted bundy have you what episode are you on like three so he's
not is he in jail yet um yes okay it's messed up it is messed up how much they screw that up
i know i don't want to ruin it for you, but whatever. I know of Ted Bundy.
It's similar to the Unabomber thing.
I've heard about it.
I knew about it, but I just didn't really understand what was going on with it.
You know what I mean?
Did you know that he broke out of jail twice?
Yeah, I did know that.
I didn't know that.
He broke out of jail twice.
Once you break out of jail one time, you need to lock him up, guys.
All right?
One time is too much.
The second time, he goes,
and then he goes on a massive
killing spree.
Did you know it was really
creepy the first time I was watching it? I was all by myself.
You do, and it was late at night, and I
got scared. And I was watching it with
my dog, Carl, and they
have, I don't know if you've seen it, but
they show a picture of
just his face in black and white and carl lost his mind no like usually he barks at dogs or
horses but like he saw ted bundy and he freaking terrified me and i was like well can't watch this
gonna watch avengers again because avengers is my go-to when I get scared.
Oh my God.
That's one of the reasons why I haven't been able to watch very much of it because I'm always watching TV late at night,
but I'm like, I don't think I should watch this
before I go to sleep.
It's gonna give me nightmares.
But it's good.
Highly recommend.
Also, is The Rock gonna be in this Zac Efron, Ted Bundy movie?
Not sure.
Great question.
Are they allowed to make movies without The Rock,
or have we gotten to a point
where only The Rock gets to make movies now?
I don't know.
I love The Rock, though.
Who doesn't love The Rock?
Everyone loves The Rock in Hollywood.
It's amazing.
Every time I turn on the TV,
he's in a new movie.
Done.
You know?
Oh, man.
When does the Zac Efron one come out?
Do you know?
I think pretty soon.
He does look a lot like him, which is creepy.
He does.
It's creepy.
It's crazy to me.
I even saw Netflix tweeting about it, how everyone's talking about how hot Ted Bundy is.
Yeah.
And it's like, he's a serial killer.
Totally.
But what was the tweet?
People must have been saying something.
Did you see the tweet from Netflix about it?
No.
Netflix tweeted,
I've seen a lot of talk about Ted Bundy's alleged hotness
and would like to gently remind everyone
that there are literally thousands of hot men on the service,
almost all of whom are not convicted serial murderers.
It's like people must really be talking about it.
Yeah, it's like, well, they got you and they got Ted Bundy.
It's insane.
I did something that I had never done the other day.
What's that?
I watched the movie Rent.
Oh, I've never seen it either.
But I watched the live show on Fox.
Sarah's good friends with Vanessa Hudgens and Jordan as well.
So she was like, we got to watch Rent.
And I was like, oh, cool.
Okay, let's do it. And she's like, you gotta watch Rent. And I was like, oh, cool. Okay, let's do it.
And she's like, you need to watch the movie so you understand what's happening.
And I was like, so you're telling me I gotta watch Rent twice in one afternoon.
Okay, let's do that.
I probably could have still understood what was happening if you had not seen the movie.
Yeah, I don't know.
I have thoughts on Rent.
By the way, this is one of like, Sarah really resonates with Rent.
One, because she grew up
in the 90s on the Lower East Side.
She used to go to the restaurant
they go to where the guy wrote
the screenplay or whatever.
The play.
And obviously, musical theater
and New Yorker and
it's a thing.
She's all about it. I'd never seen it. I didn't really know
what was going on. Do you want me to give you the breakdown of it? Sure. Basically, it's a thing so she's like all about it i'd never seen it i didn't really know what's going on do you want me to kind of give you the uh the breakdown of it sure so basically it's a bunch of
people who have aids they've been living in this apartment complex for free for the entire year
and the guy who owns the building used to be like one of their buddies is like hey you got to pay me
a year's worth of rent and they're all like doing riots and things because they are the guy's trying
to you know like gentrify the neighborhood and like change the apartment into like a nice place
and they hate him now because he's doing this and they're they rent and da da da da and meanwhile
like everyone's dying of hate it's like the saddest freaking thing sad yeah but i have a
take on it that i think is going to be unpopular,
but sometimes people need to hear the truth.
Okay?
This is like the egg.
Okay?
Okay.
Hot take on rent.
Benny, the guy who owns the building,
is the victim here.
Now hear me out, and I'll tell you why.
Benny used to be buddies with all these people,
and then they stopped being friends with him just because he ran into a little bit of money.
Also, Benny was letting them all live there for free for an entire year. And now you're being a
total dick doing all these like movements and riots because Benny's trying to make the part
of town just a little bit better. Really? And now you're being an asshole to him. Oh, yeah, let's not forget about Mimi,
the dancer who used to be his girlfriend
and then starts dating him again
in the middle of the movie, weirdly.
Oh, yeah, Mimi obviously has given him AIDS.
So let's just go through the whole thing.
Benny doesn't get any fucking money for rent,
which is who lived for free?
Nobody.
Also, he's no longer friends
with any of his old friends
and he's going to die of AIDS.
Oh, and by the way,
at the end,
Mimi leaves him to go back with Roger.
Stop.
You're very passionate about this.
It's a good movie, dude.
I liked it.
What did you think about the Fox version?
I felt terrible for them because Roger broke his ankle.
I know.
Freaking the night before.
So they had to redo all the stuff.
That sucks.
Could you imagine?
I mean, what about for the guy that plays Roger?
I forget his name.
Yeah.
I mean, can you imagine the night before having to do that
and feeling so bad and guilty?
That would be awful. There's a lesson to be learned here. So they had to do that and like feeling so bad and guilty? And there's the awful.
There's a lesson to be learned here.
So they had to use all the footage from the rehearsal, right?
Yeah.
The lesson to be learned here is every time you do anything, even if you think it's practice, you should do it as badass as you possibly can because you never know.
100%. 100%.
Well, I thought we should talk about Fyre Festival.
Still obsessed. I do have a thought on Fyre Festival. Still obsessed.
I do have a thought on Fyre Festival, by the way.
Let's hear it.
All right, so let me get this straight.
You saw that Kylie Jenner and Emily Ratchett and, oh yeah, Hailey Baldwin.
Bella Hadid.
Bella Hadid are going to this thing and you're like're like dude i want to get to hang out with kylie
jenner if i go to this thing and spend a bunch of money i didn't think that no yeah so clarification
so you think you spend a bunch of money you get to hang out with kylie jenner let me tell you
something let me tell you something you're not hanging out kylie jenner you're an idiot and you
know what no one's hanging out kylie jenner this is not a new opinion here this was like what
happened everybody was like out for all the millennials saying the same thing.
Like if you're stupid enough to spend 25 grand on a music festival,
then you deserve to have to sleep outside and eat cheese sandwiches.
25 grand for the music festival.
That's great.
That sucks.
That sucks for you.
But if you are going thinking that you are going to hang out with Bella Hadid
and Kylie Jenner, you are crazy. Crazy. Yeah. to hang out with bella hadid and kyle jenner you
are crazy crazy yeah agreed so um we were talking about last episode that one of my buddies from
college is in both the hulu and netflix the name is calvin wells i know it was cal wells
did you watch the hulu one finally yes i watched both they're great yeah which one's more your favorite i prefer the hulu version yeah the netflix one was
funnier it was the hulu one was just more interesting because that guy was there anyways
you want me to you want to call him yes please all right cal you there i'm here how are you buddy
i'm doing good man how are you hey cal good hi brandy how are you i'm good how are you i'm doing
well thank you okay so by the way cal or as you probably know him from the Hulu and Netflix documentaries
about the Fyre Festival is known as Calvin Wells.
But I know Cal from college.
We went to Ole Miss together.
Cal moved to Nashville like right as I was leaving, but I introduced him to a bunch of
my Nashville friends who are musicians and stuff.
And all of a sudden, a couple of weeks ago,
I get an influx of text messaging being like,
I'm pretty sure your friend Cal is in this documentary.
And I was like,
no way.
And then I watched it and yeah.
And not only Cal,
are you in one of them,
you're in both of them.
And you're also kind of like the narrator for,
for them as well
yeah you know and and again you know wells i've just been living in your shadow yeah today is
a trouble radio but i would dial into 92.1 for uh for tickets to uh you know the lyric on the square
so you know having having the same name as you and going to the same college has been a little
bit of something i've had to deal with i saw I saw this as like my one shining moment, sort of dare to be great in order to
elevate myself, if only for a brief moment beyond the shadow that you cast. So yeah,
started happening probably two years ago, kind of about right now. Living in the city,
kind of this bizarre confluence of being somewhat socially relevant, working in venture capital and
private equity, working tangentially in the music industry, and then just sort of being somewhat socially relevant, working in venture capital and private equity, working in, you know, tangentially in the music industry, and then just sort of being around
venture type deals and VCs. I had various sort of run-ins with Billy McFarland, who was the founder
of the festival and the app. So anyway, kind of knew him to be a bit of a shyster. Obviously,
this wasn't covered as, you know, in the documentaries as much, but he had a failed fake American Express black card.
He was trying to do a lot of shyster things as far as ripping off Blade and trying to have a plane service to the Hamptons.
He had a Maserati and a driver, but then would send scammy emails like, hey, if anybody wants to rent my car for a day you know 300 bucks like just weird sort of hustles that you don't really see from normal
people like to have a maserati because if you have a maserati the last thing you want anyone
to do is anyone else to drive it because someone like me will pay 300 just to absolutely destroy
for an afternoon anyway he was sort of always on the fringe of kind of the new york social scene
and i knew a couple of his closer friends.
And so that's sort of how I first became introduced to him.
So let me ask, when you first met this guy, did you immediately get a vibe of like, this guy's bad news?
Well, you know, Brandon, that's such a good question.
And in normal places, in normal cities, you can kind of like do a background check.
You sort of know where someone is from or you know a little bit about them.
New York, you know, it's kind of like L.A. where you can figure it with like 30 percent of the
people do, but then everyone else is just sort of BSing their way through. And it's kind of hard
to determine whether someone's a trust fund kid or, you know, got a side hustle or selling drugs.
You know, you don't really know unless they work in finance in new york uh and unless
they're actively in film and pictures in la everyone else is just sort of like this indistinguishable
you know melting pot for the people they're trying to survive here so you know i got in the vibe but
i get that vibe from like 30 40 of the people i see out on a given evening. So there was nothing too weird,
but it really sort of started in earnest
when I got called and asked,
like, would you have an interest in buying an island
in the Bahamas?
And that was sort of how this whole thing sort of began.
You know, I don't know if you want me to go into that.
There wasn't a weird vibe initially,
but just sort of like an eye roll type of,
okay, he's got a fake black
card that he charges the same amount to have.
You know, if you had real credit, you would just get American Express Platinum card and
not deal with this kind of stuff.
And that was always sort of like, he was always, you know, elevating sort of the fringe guys
and involved with them.
Did you entertain the thought of buying an island?
Yeah.
You know, it's something people are always, I mean, it's New York. People are always kind of trying to
come up with inventive things to deploy capital into. And I'll go on a date with anybody just to
have the experience. But I actually know it's quite an involved process. It takes
several months, if not years, to purchase an island. You've got to demonstrate your sources
and uses, what construction you'll do, any environmental issues uh and in the bahamas specifically it's like a 99 year lease
you don't actually own the dirt so it makes it kind of an interesting uh thing and so but the
moment that he it was like oh he's involved i was like forget this i'm not doing it like well we're
going to go down on a diligence trip and so some of the guys were posting your instagram stories
things like that
and i'm seeing like all of these you know world famous supermodels i was like hell like i should
have gone on that diligence trip this actually looks like it's a blast i didn't think anything
of it this was like in november of 16 put a time frame on it came back and it was this time two
years ago uh that sort of the orange tile the ubiquitous orange tile and and fire fest video
came out and in that video is a white plane with red stripes and i actually know the owner of it
call him i was like what the heck is this he's like yeah like this is the island thing that i
was telling you about we're throwing a music festival on a deserted island i was like buddy
there's a zero chance that this works but like god bless you and good luck and didn't really sort
of think about it other than sort of the general eye roll where i was like you know like aeg and
live nation with all of the resources that they're able to bring to bear couldn't throw something on
a deserted island in a foreign country you know with six months notice uh you know right five
months notice and so i i just didn't really and anyone that's been involved event production
or anything would know you you know you've got to have power, water, sewer facilities, medical tents, all this kind of stuff set up.
And that takes a lot, a lot of work.
And so I was like, oh, this thing is like, so this amazing video, but this isn't going to work.
And then where it sort of became a bit of a passion project for me was that there were actual people that i knew that were getting hit up to invest in this
both the app and the festival and so i'm saying like these numbers don't make sense you've got
caa wme paradigm that aren't doing the booking revenue that his app that no one's ever heard of
is doing right you know he's claiming like 150 million dollars worth of bookings like that makes
you probably the fifth largest talent agency in la and a lot
of the artists you know are assigned to exclusive agency deals uh and i'm like you know knowing
enough how that game works like this is ridiculous isn't it gonna work so i'm calling these guys
you know and saying don't invest in this thing don't invest in this and it became bigger and
bigger and bigger and i started hearing that other people had invested that i knew and so i was like
look i gotta put a stop to this thing.
Because it's one thing to sort of buy a ticket to a music festival that ultimately fails.
It's another thing to write a $5 million, $10 million check to something where there's real financial crimes going on.
So that's sort of how it became a more involved project for me.
And, you know, I knew several of the artists that were performing.
And I was fact-checking with them. I said, you know, you're not being paid. You're not getting this money on the
terms that you disclosed. It was a bag of lies. At the same time, you know, I found out the sale
for the island went south, you know, and so there's a lot of things that were just like red
flags for me. But I was sort of the only person that was sort of standing in the confluence of
all of these rivers getting this information.
And so that's where the ubiquitous, now ubiquitous, fire fraud Twitter account got created. But
ultimately, I wasn't successful in stopping it, although I was successful, I think, in
reducing a lot of the financial fraud that went on.
Wow.
Well, you know, it's a lot more interesting to see Emily Ratajkowski on the beach than it is to talk to me.
But it sort of provides a little bit of context for how this whole thing went down.
And obviously, neither one of the documentaries covered much of the financial machinations that he was engaged in.
But it was pretty elaborate fraud that he was conducting.
You're going to put money on a wristband in order to pay for things well like you guys know this because you've been to you
know Lollapalooza and Bonnaroo and Coachella like you've got to have a Wi-Fi
network in order to you know have e-payments work you can't have a Wi-Fi
network on a deserted island in a foreign country yeah all of these things
are so like eye rolls and it was just ways for them to scam the ticket holders even more.
Do you think he's a sociopath?
No question.
Oh.
Yeah, absolutely no question.
I mean, look, a lot of people were like, hey, this thing would have happened if the weather hadn't turned,
or if you hadn't messed up the investment from Comcast Ventures, he could have used that money.
He was defrauding people all along.
If you lie about the numbers and performance
and the revenue of your app,
you're fraudulently inducing people to invest.
If you're going to take that money
and misappropriate it at a festival,
you're causing people to...
And I think he knew from the very beginning,
from week number one,
anybody that he'd hired with a brain
would have said,
we can't put a festival on in five months in a foreign country, much less on a deserted island.
I think that he lived very large, you know, and a lot of that stuff got left off.
But, you know, he was taking PJs back and forth from New York down there.
They had a massive yacht that formed big parties.
parties i think like you know to some extent that he wanted to pull it off in order to to minimize like the the actual collapse where maybe he would have been able to say well you know a lot of
things went wrong but we'll learn from it but ultimately it was just such a spectacular collapse
i think he is a sociopath and to that end wells like even after this thing happened he was still
going out to clubs in the city you know and had his girlfriend renting hampton's houses paying
cash he wasn't necessarily like hey i'm very contrite and I'm going to learn my lesson.
It's still, you know, I'm going to live this faux baller lifestyle, despite the fact that
if you Googled my name, it's associated with this massive collapse and epic failure.
Something I wish they had showed more of, and I think they showed it a little more in
the Hulu version, was that when he was released on bail,
he started scamming people again immediately.
Yeah, that was the
VIP ticket scam.
Yeah, and it was all
stuff that you can't buy tickets to.
It was like,
if you could go on StubHub and get tickets
to the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show,
I'd do it all day.
It was using the same victims,
the same email listserv,
and he was going right back after them,
teaching somebody else how to
straight hustle. And so I think
you've got to have a sociopath
mentality where you don't internalize
any of the damage that's done
to the point that you're out
on bail, and you're going right back to committing financial crimes.
It's ludicrous.
I don't think it's the last time we've heard of him.
I mean, you've got to realize,
I think that he knew this thing was a fraud from day one.
He stuffed cash away.
He's probably got half a million dollars buried somewhere
or in a property that's yielding real estate income
that we don't know about,
that the receiver won't find. We'll get out in five and a half years and go right back to it.
Five and a half years is about when my undergrad lasted at Ole Miss, and I came out in a worse
financial position, but he's going to come out after a $30 million fraud.
Is there one thing from either documentaries that wasn't said that you wish had been said?
Sort of mind blowing that Ja Rule was no doubt a beneficiary of this entire thing, has somehow avoided any prosecution, any judgments, actually like right back out there promoting the fire app rebranded as icon to consumers and i just think like how does this guy
how how at the same time is he flying on planes and living on yachts smoking their joints and
film you know and like like living the successive lifestyle and benefiting from the fraud you're not
uh not covered i mean there's that that great clip that they had but he's like it's not a fraud it's
not a fraud it's maybe false advertising which of course is fraud yeah but he's like, it's not a fraud. It's not a fraud. It's maybe false advertising,
which of course is fraud.
But it's like,
come on,
like this guy is like,
I'm going to figure out who his like PR team is
because they've done
an amazing job.
I mean,
who his legal team is
because they've done
an amazing job
to avoid all prosecution
to a guy that,
keep in mind,
had been to jail before
for gun charges
and financial related crimes. He's a bit of a serial offender himself and sure had fun for
seven months on, you know, investor and ticket holders dime.
I was thinking the same thing. It's pretty fascinating that he
has been left out of a lot of the conversation around firefighters.
He also seems like the biggest dork. I hate the let's drink like rock stars let's
whatever yeah oh my god like frat culture like and it's one thing you know in when you're 19
years old you know to be chanting stupid toast like that but like come on buddy like if you're
the face of a company that's not how you're operating yeah and like you know a lot of the
intel that i got from a you know whistleblower or someone like that was like he literally comes in smoked weed
all day you know drinks and then is like all right let's you know let's live like legends so let's
you like some sort of meaningless tropes that are like all right this is your motivational like
speaker um you know and like and well as brandon like this is this is an exclusive for your You know, I told this to the documentary guys, but said, you've got to authenticate this. They were not able to do so. So, so this is not fully confirmed, but like, I had it on pretty good authority that their plan was to like, you know, work a side deal with drug, with a drug dealer down there.
And so their plan was, you know, look, if everyone's filling in for a music festival and has to go through customs, no one's going to be bringing in drugs. I mean, you've got drug dogs not going through TSA and not going through customs with recreational drug for a festival.
So what they were going to do was basically give an exclusive to one of the drug dealers on the island in exchange for a percentage cut of the profit.
I'd put my hand on the Bible and state this is factual.
And like there was a drug seizure.
You know, keep in mind, like, I'm giving tips to these,
I'm calling the, you know, the ambassador's office,
I'm calling the Bahamanian government,
you know, about six days before the festival,
that there was a bunch of recreational party drugs, which are not indicative to the Bahamanian sort of weed scene,
you know, that was down there.
And so, like, these guys were, guys were side-scamming this.
That's just not something that you hear
about the guys from Live Nation doing.
Wow, I didn't even think about that.
But I gotta be honest with you,
that's kind of genius.
No, it is kind of genius.
For a big party, you make the door
really, really hard to get drugs through
and then start selling drugs on the inside.
There's the great Rob Reiner
mockumentary, This Is Final Tap.
I wouldn't mind an Amazon Prime or an HBO
coming at it like the documentary on the
documentary. Yeah.
Just to see how all of that went down.
Well, I thought you did a great job on both.
You're freaking hilarious on both of them, dude.
I appreciate it, and Wells, congratulations
on all of your success. Oh, thank you.
And you as well, Miss Brandy.
And if I can ever be of service to you guys,
don't hesitate to let me know.
Good talking with you, buddy. Thanks so much.
And yeah, I want
like three more of these movies. I just
want to see Cal on TV more. That's all I really need.
Yeah, well, it's going to be a skinnier
new me. I watched
two documentaries and saw four chins. And so anyway but uh love you guys and uh have a great night all right see you
buddy thank you so much all right yep what a great dude dude cal is one of the funniest guys
i've ever met no he's awesome he's also so smart and like eloquent like explaining all that was like the drug things is
mind-blowing by the way i know but it makes so much sense total sense like can you imagine how
much money bonnaroo would make if they also sold the drugs there mind-blowing i mean it's genius
yeah it really is and illegal uh but yeah very Very illegal. Though we don't suggest it, but it.
Oh my gosh.
I can't wait to see what happens when Billy gets out of jail because he's for sure going
to keep doing this.
For sure, man.
What a crazy human being.
Yeah.
Anyways, that was awesome.
I'm really glad.
He hasn't done any press from this.
And I like commented on his picture being like, you're on my freaking podcast.
And he's like, okay, I'll do it.
I'll only do press for you. And I was like, okay, I'll do it. I'll only do press for you.
And I was like, okay, thanks.
I mean, you can go do a bigger outlet.
I'm just saying.
Yeah.
We were obsessed.
We talked about that thing so much.
So anyways, big thanks to him.
I got to go.
We didn't talk about many favorites, but we can save it for next week.
Oh, music.
Music.
Yeah, that was our.
I got one. Have you heard this new Vampire Weekend next week. Oh, music. Music, yeah. That was our... I got one.
Have you heard this new Vampire Weekend?
Yep, I love it. Right?
Mm-hmm.
Can you hear it?
Yep.
Okay, well, this is a really long intro.
Mm-hmm. Ezra Koenig
anyways the new record
is called Harmony Hall
and it's
is that what it's called?
Harmony Hall 2021
is that what the album's called?
this song's called Harmony Hall
but like anyways
it's the new one from Vampire Weekend what do you you got? Super good. I've got to the new Ryan
Adams song. You heard it? What? I didn't know it was a new Ryan Adams song! It's called
Fuck the Rain. God, I love Ryan Adams. God, I just love Ryan Adams. I wish I was, wouldn't
it be cool if I was related to him? That would be really cool. Just Wallace and Ryan Adams
hanging out. I want to lie down
Here in your arms
And just die
Can I live
Long enough to be alive
Still sounds good, man.
Bleached out heart and a broken smile Still sounds good, man.
Gotta love him.
He's the best.
One of my ultimate faves.
Julia Michaels put out an EP.
I love her so much.
Play Into You if you're going to play one.
I can drive down Santa Monica without thinking about you. And're gonna play one? Is she British?
I don't think so.
It's like everyone sings like they got marbles in their mouth.
She's got a great voice, though, dude.
She's adorable.
Love her.
The holy peace, great.
Yeah.
Inner monologue, part one.
All right, I'll let you go.
Yeah, sorry, I gotta go do a radio show.
But I miss ya.
I love ya.
Love ya.
Bye, everybody. You're one of my favorite things. Okay, bye. Okay, bye. Bye. you go yeah sorry i gotta do a radio show um but i miss you i love you and love you bye everybody
you're my favorite things okay bye okay bye bye this podcast has been brought to you by podcast
nation