Your Favorite Thing with Wells & Brandi - Kaitlynn Carter Jenner is here!

Episode Date: July 24, 2019

This week on YFT, Kaitlynn Carter Jenner is here to co-host! Wells is away doing post-engagement family stuff, so the much sweeter/hotter/cooler Kaitlynn is here with Brandi to chat lots of favorite things, including her favorite subject in school, her favorite toilet (yes, that’s a thing), and lots of favorite books and shows (this girl is WELL READ). Kaitlynn also gives Brandi some Hills inside scoop, explaining why Brody was hiding from producers in the car during filming, what Mischa Barton is really like, and how the producers managed to get such incredible content for the season. Brandi reveals her greatest fear while flying (it’s not dying), why Hannah Montana’s horse is still haunting her, and of course lots of favorite shows and more. Enjoy! Thanks to our sponsors – we couldn’t do this show without you! FEALS – go to www.feals.com/YFT for 50% off your first membership order! OPENFIT – for a free 30-day trial, text YFT to 303030

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Welcome back. This week, Wells is gone. He's abandoned me. but I have the lovely Caitlin Carter here to co-host in his place. We were giving Wells a hall pass because he just got engaged and he and Sarah took a road trip up to Monterey to visit his family and to celebrate the engagement. So I guess we'll let it slide. He got some big shoes to fill though. Yeah. He's, he's pretty good at his job, I think. And sometimes I feel like the podcast is just mostly him and I'm just here to like feed his ego and laugh at his jokes, but it works in my favor. So that's called a partnership.

Yeah, exactly. Um, but this is your favorite thing podcast. And besides shooting the shit, we talk about our favorite things. Okay. Um, music, movies, TV, random things like putting eye serum on with your ring finger, which we'll talk about in a little bit. So yeah, welcome. Thank you. Excited to be here. We were just having a thrilling conversation over coffee about whether we fart and poo in front of our men because my sister was, and I guess

they're going to find out now they're going to find out. My sister could not believe that I burp in front of my boyfriend. I see nothing wrong with that. I mean, I don't do that either. You don't? No. Well, it's the same to me. It's the same thing, right? Isn't it the same technically? It's all as farting gas, right? It's all gas, but coming out of your mouth and coming out of your butt. Well, yeah, for sure. One smells far worse than the other. Way. I don't know. Part of me feels like maybe not all guys, but some guys are like kind of impressed when a girl can burp well.

They're like, yeah. Really? So is that the kind of guy you're looking for? I think so. I think so. But I have never farted in front of him and I refuse to ever admit when I have to take a poo. No. Brody and I have been together for six, going on six years now. Yeah. And he'll actually make it a mission to try to catch me in the act, going to the bathroom. And he never has. No.

If you ask him, he'll tell, he tells people, he kind of brags about it. Cause I think he doesn't really want to know if I do. So he'll tell people he's never once found me like nothing. Oh my God. That is so crazy. So does he like, does he like brag about it when he goes? But he'll do it in front of me. Yeah. That's what I was going to say. In fact, I even got a special toilet at our house. Yeah. I got a Toto, you know, the Toto toilet. What is that? It does, it flushes, it does everything for you. It's like got the heated seat. Is it like Miley's in her bathroom? I don't know. Oh, I think she has that. Does she? I think so.

I haven't used that one. It's definitely heated and flushes for you. Yeah. So, but okay. But you know what the best part of it is? No. It has a charcoal filter and a fan. So like whenever you sit down in the toilet, it immediately starts running the fan.

So it doesn't smell. And it filters the smell out immediately. Oh my gosh. So you never have to smell anything. So this is like life changing for me because Brody used to always go to the bathroom first thing in the morning. Do you guys use the same bathroom? Yeah. You do? Mm-hmm. Yep. Very interesting. Yes. I feel like I need my own bathroom. Yeah. Right? Well, or you need a Toto. Or I need a Toto. You're right.

The Toto, I'm telling you, I even got it for my parents for Christmas. Really? Yeah. It's literally life-changing. Sounds like a great gift. You know what they should do? I'm a big poopery guy. You ever use that stuff?

No. What? Oh, gosh. You got to get it for traveling. What is that? It's this spray, and you spray it into the toilet before you go, and it masks the smell. Like, it doesn't smell at all. I keep a travel size in my purse at all times.

Does it smell like florals or like it has a scent or it just neutralizes it? No, it's actually a really good smell. I think the one I have is lavender. Okay. And it is a game changer. And you travel with that? Yeah, I keep it in my purse. Really?

Like sometimes I have to go number two on the airplane. Like if I've had coffee that morning. I know, but I don't really care about the other people on the airplane. Oh my gosh. I'm so subconscious of coming out of the, the plane bathroom and then the next person going in and it's smell horrid and them knowing that I did it. You have to brush right past them too. So you're like, really, it's really intimate when you're switched.

It's horrible. Okay. That's a good argument for it. But I feel like the plane bathroom always smells horrible no matter what. It does. It does. But yeah, I can't, and I, I end up, I feel like I share hotel rooms a lot. Like when I'm traveling, I always bring friends with, and then I'm like, yeah, just crash with me. And then like, I just don't want to stink the bathroom. So

poopery. Well, try my bell. I would ding it. Cause it's one of my favorite things. Okay. There you go. And I guess mine would be a Toto. A Toto. Yeah. There we go. Ding, ding, ding. Definitely one of my favorites. Yeah. Um, have you tried doing, or I guess you probably haven't yet, but try doing a cleanse with your boyfriend? No. Like at a cleanse place. No. Or you guys have to share the same hotel room.

No. Yes. I have done that. And still didn't get busted. For six days. Yeah. Sounds hard. I think that, yeah.

I mean, I don't want to go into too much detail about it because it's kind of gross. Do you go before you shower? I feel like that's a good play. You don't really have a choice when you're on the cleanse. Like, you've got to go when you've got to go. And he never caught you. So you'd be showering like five times a day. You're like, I just want to be really clean.

Hi, Bean. No, I mean, I would try to sneak off to like the lobby bathroom or do something like that. Oh, that's a good idea. But it's kind of the worst. That's interesting. Especially in the middle of the night. Oh, you have to go in the middle of the night on the cleanse? This place is amazing though.

Another favorite thing. Really? We Care Spa. We Care Spa. We Care. We Care Spa. In California? Yeah, it's in the desert.

It's like out by Palm Springs. That sounds amazing. It's really no frills, but you just do this cleanse and you do colonics the whole time. Oh my, like how many? You do one a day. What? For six days or however long you want to stay. They have a three-day program, a six-day, and then you can do eight and then you can

do them back to back. Like some people will go for weeks in a row. That's crazy. Because if you want to lose weight, it's really good for that. Obviously, I didn't go for weight loss. Colonics sounds horrible. It's just such a good reset. Yeah, it's not.

Do they sedate you at all? No. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I can't go for weight loss. Colonics sounds horrible. It's just such a good reset. Yeah, it's not. Do they sedate you at all? No. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I can't do that. They give you lavender essential oils on a paper towel to smell. You know what they should do? So I've talked about it so much on this podcast, but I found this waxing place in Denver that puts you on laughing gas while you get waxed.

It's phenomenal. That's amazing. I need that. It's the best invention. Yeah, because that's what they should do. I stopped getting waxes because it's just so painful. I know, but this place it's worth flying to Denver for, I swear. I did not, it didn't hurt. I would fly to Denver for that. I was like laughing during my wax. Yeah. I should do that on the way to Nashville.

Growing it out just in time to get there for the way I'm serious. It's a so genius, but I'm like more people need to do this. So if they would give laughing gas. How is that legal? I feel like that's weird. It's not something shady. It's not. The girl that started it is, um, I think like an anesthesiologist or something. Yeah, she must be. And they're certified. I think it's, that's what she is. And they're certified to do laughing gas. That's so cool. Yeah. Cause my friend Adam is an anesthesiologist and I was like, uh, can we get a laughing gas tank at the house? Like, are you serious? Because it's like so smart, but did you actually do the wax? Oh yeah, absolutely. You did. I had the time of my life. Really? It's like, just goes from horrible to the best. It was great. And the girls did a great

job. I did it before I went to South Africa. Why don't we just open one here in LA? We should. That's a really good idea. So my friend Adam that went with me and he's the anesthesiologist, I told him like he would make a killing if he opened one in Nashville. So he should open one there and here because wouldn't that do so well? Oh, that would do very well here. Yeah. People love their extracurricular activities.

They truly do. And they love a good wax. The girl was telling us actually that like the majority of her clients are men who come in and they love a good wax. She was, the girl was telling us actually that like the majority of her clients are men who come in. Oh really? Oh yeah. Oh, can you imagine how bad that would hurt if you didn't have laughing gas? Oh, I know, but it would do so well in LA. Oh yeah. Men love to be hairless in LA. I feel. Yeah. When you went in West Hollywood. Okay. We're going to move off of all the disgusting. I know. I think we just grossed everyone out immediately everyone's turned this off they're like this is not i hope no guys are listening

to us i think it's pretty female uh pretty females heavy audience we're good um let's talk about some favorite things the reason i'm really pumped for caitlin to be on the pod is because she reads a lot and i always talk about favorite books and people, our listeners like really love hearing our book recommendations. So I know you've been reading a few that I'm actually going to get and read soon. So yeah. So as you know, educated, I'm in the middle of reading. Can you tell us what it's about? Yeah. So it's a memoir about this woman who grew up in Idaho and her family lived on a big ranch and she was raised Mormon, I believe. And her dad was like a really big believer and he kept their entire family at home. He didn't send any of them to school. So none of them had any formal education and they didn't even actually homeschool either.

So the kids were sort of responsible for coming up with their own ways to learn things. Their mom would help them out a little bit. Their mom's really interesting. She actually became a midwife on her own as well, which was really cool. So she kind of apprenticed as a midwife and then became one. And somehow, eventually, the woman who wrote the book ends up leaving home and attends Harvard and I think Brigham Young. And I think she goes to maybe Oxford as well.

I don't know. I haven't gotten that far in the book yet. But it's just a story about how she came from nothing with no education. And now she's this amazing writer and she's so educated. Educated, yeah. That's what crazed me. Like that, I have so much respect for her because to have the motivation to want to learn after like not, you know, growing up and that not even being a thing. Yeah.

I mean, what happened, the things that happened in the book too. I mean, I don't want to give it all away obviously, but it's just, there's some really dramatic and intense things that happen, like so many injuries and they also don't believe in medicine, like modern medicine. So everything is like, you just have to heal yourself and yeah, it's intense. I feel like, what was the movie with brie larson that was kind of similar to this uh room room right wasn't that was just she got she was kidnapped it wasn't really the same at all maybe that's the only movie i can think of that has brie larson in it but i know

she's been in a bunch i don't know ignore me i i feel like i but room was also really good yeah i read that book as well you did was the book better than the movie? Yeah, actually. It always is. Always. I hate that. That's why sometimes I feel like it's better to watch movies and then read the book so you're not disappointed by the movie, you know? And then Burial Rites I recommended to you, which has a movie coming out as well. So what's that one about? And I think that's Kate Blanchett. Okay. Oh, no. Actually, that's Where'd You Go, Bernadette. Have you read that one?

No. Okay, sorry. Now that I'm thinking about it, I've got like a whole roster of books. Tell us. So Where'd You Go, Bernadette, that's going to be coming out, I think, in a month, the movie. But the book is about a young girl and her mom just one day disappears. And then it's the whole story of where did her mom go and why. And it's really disappears. And then it's the whole story of where did her mom go and why. And it's really interesting.

Wow. They go on a voyage all around the world to find her mom. And she and her dad do. It's really cool. That's really cool. And it's a true story, right? That one's not a true story. It's just really good.

Okay. And then Burial Rites is like a historical drama. But I don't think that's a true story either. But it's the one that's based in Iceland with the woman who's found guilty of murder and being in witchcraft. And yeah, the story of what happens to her. I have to read that one. That one you're going to love. I'm a sucker for.

Oh, yeah. You'll recognize so many. Because I didn't know that D-O-T-T-I-R at the end of an Icelandic word. It's like dotir. Dotir. It's the name of a bunch of towns and like first names and last names because it means so-and-so's daughter. but i never knew that and same with son which is kind of more obvious but like when the son is at the end of a name that means that it's like if it's erickson then it's

erick's son huh which is that's cool yeah so then when you're in iceland you see all these names you're like oh okay you kind of understand the lineage yeah yeah it's very cool i'm such a sucker for a crime thriller book oh you'll love they're my favorite yeah i um so speaking of that i i told you guys last week i started a book called trust me that's like a crime fiction book um fiction uh not true yeah it's called trust me and it's written by bean bean is stepping all over um it is a it's fiction, but it's written by a woman who I think one of my, one of my listeners actually told me that she, I believe it was like a, she's a real reporter in Boston. So this book, she wrote it from the perspective of the, like the lead in there in that, in

the book is a reporter who's writing a novel about a true crime that she's watching, like on tech, watching the court case on television. So it's like a really cool perspective, but that does sound really cool. I'm almost done with it. And I still don't know what's going on, but in a good way where there's been so many twists along the way that I'm like,

I definitely don't see the ending coming. Cause I don't know what's happening. That's the best. Well, that's when you have a good writer. Yeah, for sure. So highly recommend as soon as I finish it,

I'll tell you guys next week how, how I liked it after I hear the ending, but I'm going to have to get that one next. one next highly recommend and then I have recursion in my bag to read on the plane today have you ever heard of um Blake Crouch no he wrote a book called dark matter that I am obsessed with like to this day I say it's my favorite fiction book I've ever read and then he just came out with a new book called recursion and it's already been bought by Netflix to be a movie and a series oh wow he also I don, I don't know if you, did you ever, I'm about to read it. Yeah. Did you ever watch Wayward Pines on Fox? It's a TV series and it was based on a

novel he wrote. I need to watch more TV. Yeah. I never thought I'd be saying that. I feel like maybe I need to. I always feel like that because when Wells is here, he literally every week, I feel like watches like three or four new shows. I'm like, how do you find the time? Well, I was going to ask you how you find so much time to read. Cause even though I love to read. Because I fly so much. Oh yeah.

Gosh, that's all I do. So you don't get the wifi on the plane. You just go for the book. Yeah. See, I need to be more, I need to be stronger and just stick with that. Cause I'll always start reading the book and then I get a half an hour in and I'm like, what's going on on my phone? What's going on on my phone? Yeah. I'm an addict. I just feel like the wifi on planes never works very well. And I'm always so mad at

myself that I paid so much for it. Yeah. So I just stopped getting it. I know it is kind of annoying that you have to pay all that. I know. But also we need more time away from our phones. We do. I'm really trying to work on that. It's hard. I think we all are. Yeah. It seems like we're finally at a point where people realize we're on our phones too much. Yeah. You know, like even, um, even like Miley walked in last night or was it this morning? I can't remember. And we were both on our phone. She goes, cool guys. What's up? And it's like, we were both. And I didn't even notice that she said that. So I was like, sorry, but like, I think it's good that we call each other out for that now. And like, I notice it because I actually, yeah. Spending time with her. I feel like I think it's good that we call each other out for that now and like I notice it because I actually yeah spending time with her.

I feel like I'm on my phone less because she's pretty good about it. She is really good about it. Have you seen on your phone where you can look at the amount of time that you spend actually like how much screen time you have? It's scary. I haven't looked because I'm too scared. Well some people have it where it reminds them and tells them every week how many hours they've been on their phone. And I can't have that on because it's depressing to me. No that's's what I'm saying. I just want to do it and not feel guilty. I don't need anybody to make me feel worse. I know. Oh my gosh. I want to share with you guys

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so you don't really watch much TV. You don't really have time to. I mean, I do, but I think that I just don't watch as much as apparently everyone else does because I hear about all these shows all the time that I've never even heard of. Yeah.

What shows do you like to watch? There's a lot out now. Yeah. I watch The Handmaid's Tale. I love that. Love that. Are you caught up? Okay, there you go. No. Oh, you gotta catch up. I think I have one episode I like to watch? There's a lot out now. Yeah. I watched The Handmaid's Tale. I love that. Love that. Are you caught up? Okay, there you go.

No. You got to catch up. I think I have one episode I need to watch. Okay. But you've watched this season, right? Yeah. You know, a lot of people are complaining about it and saying it's not good. What do you think about it?

I like it. I do too. I do too. I wonder what, well, maybe you know because you've watched, are you like fully caught up? I might not have seen the last week. Okay. What's going to happen with up? I might not have seen the last week. Okay. But. What's going to happen with Nicole?

I don't know. And I used to, I was starting to like, what's her face? Yes. What's her name? The really pretty girl? The Commander's wife.

Yes. I was starting to really like her and now she's blowing it. I thought she was going to have a full turnaround and come back and like leave the women's empowerment thing. Because that's her whole,

that was the point of it in the first place wasn't it can we talk about how this hottie in canada is like trying to get with her and give her a new life and she's just like no he just wants to take her to hawaii i'm like what is wrong with you get on it i know yeah commander's kind of hot in a weird way he is but he's a freak this other guy seems very put together it is why did they make a rule that they can't have sex like outside of just with the handmaids like why would they do that to themselves i don't know they can't have sex for fun it's insane it is insane i don't know it's

scary maybe she'll maybe um mrs waterford that's her name mrs waterford maybe mrs waterford will have a change of heart i hope so I really want her to redeem herself. Yeah, I know. I'm freaked out. I know. But also I get a little bit annoyed with Elizabeth Moss's character, like the amount of things she does that are so dangerous. So dumb.

Like, how are you? I mean, and she gets away with it. I know. It's a little hard to believe. That's what I was going to say. That's the only thing I'll say about this season is it's getting a little more unbelievable than the first season was for sure. Yeah.

Like she's not getting, everybody else gets hanged if they like pop back or do anything bad. And she just nonstop is like running away, getting in trouble, giving kids away, like sending them to Canada. And then she's just fine. It's so annoying. Okay. This is kind of a spoiler if you're not caught up.

So maybe just like plug your ears. No, I am what I'm about to say. I don't know about the rest of it, is kind of a spoiler if you're not caught up. So maybe just like plug your ears. No, what I'm about to say. I don't know about the rest of it. But that was a spoiler. Freaking Aunt Lydia. Oh man, like that girl was this close to killing her and I was like, come on! I know, how did she not? Because the guy

shot her real quick. Oh yeah. And then she hesitated. Man, it was so close. I can't wait for Aunt Lydia to go. Yeah. She bugs. But see, Aunt Lydia, yeah, she drives me crazy. Did you ever watch The Leftovers? Yes, and she's in that. She's in that.

That's a great show. And she's just as crazy in that. She was. She plays crazy really well. Yeah, really well. The Leftovers was a great show, and it ended. That's probably my favorite show I've ever watched. Really?

Yeah. I liked it, too. I don't know what it is, but like, so on DirecTV, on, new age channel, they always, I always put it on when I get a massage. Nice. For some reason. I just listen. I just listen to the new age channel. That's so funny. And they always play the leftovers theme song and it like brings me back to when I watched that show. And for some reason it's super nostalgic for me. And I love Justin Theroux. I think he's so good in that. Yeah. I thought he's so good in that. Yeah. I thought he was hot after watching that.

I never knew before. I didn't know he was hot before. Yeah. But I was sad that they didn't continue that show because I really liked it. And I just feel like people didn't really know about it. Like when I would ask people if they've seen it, they're like, I've never even heard of that show. I know. So weird.

People still say the same thing to me. My mom is the one who told me. Really? Yeah. And I was so glad she did. And I binged it. Like I watched it just probably last year. Yeah, really.

Yeah. I watched it late too and then once the new season came out, I watched it in real time. I know. She's cracking me up. We're hanging with the dogs

right now. Lil Bean. Lil Beanie baby. Lil Bean loves to cuddle. She's so funny. Do you not watch Stranger Things? I watched the first season.

You watched the first season. Yeah. Oh yeah, we talked about this last night. Yeah. Did you guys start season three last night? What did we watch last night?

Oh, United States of Tara. Oh, I haven't seen it. I'm not. You're not. I know. Oh, it's interesting. It's about a woman with split personality disorder. Has Miley not told you about this?

No, but Miley and I have very different tastes in television. Well, so do we. We talked about this on the plane in the UK. Remember, her and Jessie were like, how do you guys not watch Housewives? And what's the other one? Like RuPaul. And then there was one more. Like Miley and Jessie watch all of this reality TV.

And we were saying like, you're either a reality TV person or you're not. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Like you either watch all of it and love all of it. Although I love a good reality TV show if it's somewhat educational. Like I, like I've been, I've been getting my land of this too. Born this way. I tell everyone about it. I haven't seen that either. Okay. It's about these kids who live here. Well, most of them live here in LA and they all have down syndrome and they're so interesting and the show is so good. It's so inspiring and

it's like a feel good show. Oh, cool. It's so good. What network is it on? It's on A&E. A&E. A&E makes great TV. And it's funny. They do. Yeah. They've won so many Emmys for this show. It's great. I actually don't know why more people don't know about it because it's like a really, really good show. So I like that kind of thing. Like I'll watch Nat Geo. I'll watch that sort

of stuff. Yeah. I like that. But I just don't like the arguing and fighting and all that on Housewives. No. That's not real life. Like, nobody has time for all that, you know?

Totally. I was asking the wife tears last week about the show Yellowstone because I've been interested to watch it and I haven't yet. Have you watched it at all?

Is that the Yellowstone live one? No, it's scripted. It's a scripted show. I forget what network it's on. Yellowstone Live. I know. That one sounds good too, actually.

But I'm going to Yellowstone next month. So I've been researching a lot on Yellowstone, but I noticed that there's the TV show with Kevin Costner, the scripted show. And so tons of the listeners for YFT wrote me and DM'd us and said the show is amazing and that I have to watch it. So as soon as I'm finished. What network is that on?

Or is it on Netflix or something? It's on, I think USA. Okay. And USA does a lot of great TV also. So it's next on my list to start binging because I want to watch it before I actually go to Yellowstone. Yeah, you should for sure. That's a good idea. It's like I told my sister she's going to London this summer and I was like, you have to watch The Tudors before you go.

I haven't seen that either. Oh, my God. Another favorite of all time. There's just so much TV. There's not enough time. So many favorites. I know. I love how I was like, I never watch TV.

And now I can't stop listening to TV shows. That's so funny. But The Tudors was so good. That's an older one, though. I think they probably wrapped it up like five or six years ago. But it's all about King Henry VIII and all the women, all his wives that he killed basically oh my gosh that sounds so good the whole history of the tower of london so then when you go to london it's like extra special i love how you're like this like like undercover like bookworm nerd like history buff like because you're like you're just so cute and

just like who would have thought that you like love history oh i love history i love that so much that's my favorite thing i think i think that's amazing i don't have a bell with me because i flew to la last minute um we usually ring a bell and we say favorite things but i'm i i'm jealous because in school history was my least favorite subject well there's just something like have you been to the coliseum i don't know there's certain places that you go where I feel like you can just feel the energy from everything that's happened there over the, and when you know more about it, the more you're educated about it, the more, yeah, you're just connected with like the, I mean, I don't know. I don't really know what it is about it that I love. I think it's just the fact that we're only going to be alive for so long. And

then to think about all the people before us who were there in that exact spot, it's just cool. That is really cool. I will say like getting to travel and visit some of the historical places like changes it for me. There was just something about just like reading everything out of a book that I just couldn't – it didn't hold my attention in school. What was your favorite subject in school? Chemistry. Really? Yes. See, that's so hard though.

I just – I loved math. I don't know. Really? Yeah. Okay. That's unique. So like balancing equations and I loved math. I don't know. Really? Yeah. Okay. That's unique. Balancing equations and stuff was like my favorite thing. No.

What? I know. So you must like things to be very linear then. Yes. Okay. Very. Not abstract. Yeah.

Because like the thing I love about like chemical, balancing chemical equations is like you can always do it. Like it always works out. Like there's always a way. And same with like algebra and stuff. Like there's a formula and then there's always do it. It always works out. There's always a way. Same with algebra and stuff. There's a formula and then there's always an answer. Even if you can't find it, it's there and you just got to keep working. I don't like that at all.

That's so funny. I don't want to have to figure out the one answer. I want to be able to go all over the place and be creative. I love that though. That's cool. Those would have been my hardest classes, math and chemistry. Well, we should have been a team then. I know.

You can help me with history. I did all my pre-med courses in college because I thought that maybe I wanted to go to medical school. And that was by far the most impossible. Really? Well, yeah, all the chemistry. Yeah. So hard.

I think that's what keeps a lot of people out of, like keeps them going. Like makes you go in. Because you have, that's, those are requirements. Like you have to do it obviously. Uh-huh. And you should, as a doctor. You should have had to do that. But for me, it was like, ugh, brutal. So you, what about like biology? Did you love

all that? I love biology. Oh my gosh. And I loved, um, what's the class, uh, human anatomy, I guess it was called when we would do all the dissecting. I was about to say, I cannot do that. Like when we had to do the frog in high school, I literally threw a fit and called it animal abuse and somehow got out of it. We had to do a cat. I would never. Really? I would be like, I have a pet cat.

I cannot do this. No, I loved it. I used to volunteer at a vet's office too. And I would watch all the surgeries. Wow. I loved it. Yeah. It's funny.

Like as a kid, I always thought I wanted to be a vet. And now like I, the one thing I have a hard time with, with my horses, like I I'm so good at horse care. Like I know so much, but I can not give shots. Like it's the one thing I still like, I don't like doing it. I need to learn so bad. I mean, it's like to give a shot. Really? Yeah. I thought you were going to say maybe if they got an injury. Oh no. I can like blood doesn't bother me. Like I can like giving a shot, but giving the shots just, I wonder what that is. I don't know. Cause as a kid, I was terrified.

No, as a kid, like my mom will tell you people like three or four nurses had to hold me down for shots as a kid. I was terrified. I know. So you probably can't get blood drawn either. Are you okay? No, I'm terrified. Yeah.

That scares me too. There's something freaky about watching it. It's scary to think like to watch them take so much blood out of your arm and be like, and I'm okay without all that blood. Yeah, I know. I know it is weird, but maybe I'd be better about it now. Cause I have gotten a lot better. Like I used to be really scared of the dentist. And now that I've discovered like laughing gas, I'm totally fine. I'm like, as long as you guys give me high enough before you start putting needles in my gums, I'm good. It's not the case for anything though. As long as you're high enough, it's fine. It is a game changer though. I can't believe we just said that.

I mean, I, I've, I've like people like I get, sometimes I get people writing in and they're like, you really shouldn't talk about laughing gas as a recreational thing. I'm like, I'm not a regular thing with you. It's totally regular. I'm like, I'm not saying it's a recreational thing. I'm just saying that it truly eases my anxiety about any kind of like. It does. And that's actually the purpose for it. Totally. So there's nothing wrong with that.

Totally. And it's not like I do it at home, although. Although you would. But I just used to be so fearful of things. And the fact that it makes me less fearful to go to the dentist. I kind of want you to become a vet. I think that would be so cute. In another life, I could have. But I just. You still could. I know. I'd have to go to the dentist. I kind of want you to become a vet. I think that would be so cute. In another life I could have, but I just.

You still could. I know. I'd have to go back to school for so many years. Well, do you know, I don't know if you know Dr. Lisa Malibu Co's damn pod. No. She only became a vet like 10 years ago. Really? She's 50.

Oh my gosh. Yeah. It just, I feel like I would be so sad when you'd have to put the animals down. I know. That sounds horrible. But I actually feel like on the flip side, you understand, like, all the science and everything behind it, and it becomes less emotional, and you have a better, because I used to, when I volunteered at the vet's office, I would see them do that sometimes.

And they, I actually felt better about it when it came time to put our child and dog down. Yeah. Just because I understood it was like, we're actually helping them, and, you know, I mean, and they i actually felt better about it when it came time to put our really dog down yeah just because i understood it was like we're actually helping them and you know i mean it's it's it's never going to be easy no i know it's the worst it's like the second i get a puppy i start thinking about that it's so depressing it is it's so sad to me like that we just like the animals just don't live as long as us and it makes it so hard why is that why would you create an animal that's your best that's supposed to be best friends with humans and then they

don't live that long? It's so weird. Maybe so you can have multiple best friends throughout your life. That's a good point. I like that. It brings something new to you. Positive side to it. Yes.

Okay. Well, I can't have you here without talking about the hills a little bit. I know. I was going to say, we don't have wells here to grill me on the hills. Actually, you should be thankful because he probably would grill you. i'm surprised he didn't send you in some questions i wanted to be grilled i like it yeah oh now i feel bad i did watch episode one so that i had at least knew a little bit yeah but i feel like so when you guys shot the hills did they shoot a pilot first and then wait a while before they shot the rest of the season? Or did you shoot it all at once? No, we shot it all at once.

Okay. Because I think, you know, I'm not sure what their initial plan was for the direction they were going with with this new show. I know they wanted to do something different than they did with the original. Did you watch the original? I did watch the original. So you know how the original was filmed kind of like almost like a movie? It was like really beautifully shot.

It didn't look like today's reality shows. So initially that's what they told us they were still going to be doing. And then I think somewhere along the line they decided they wanted it to be a little bit more Real Housewives vibes. Okay. And we had already signed on at that point. So it was kind of interesting. So they sort of changed the direction like halfway through. So we ended up shooting for a really long time.

And they added in green screen interviews. So we're doing these like little interview moments throughout the show, which is different from the original. So we have been filming since October of last year. That's insane. Yeah. And you're still pretty wild. I actually think I filmed, I think I'm done. Okay. I filmed last week. Wow. Some interviews and I think I'm done. That's so crazy. But you know what's so crazy about it is that it starts out that they kind of have, they're not scripting, the show's not scripted, but they're sort of setting up these scenarios because they need people to have some kind of interesting interactions. And then as the show gets going, you're spending so much time around all these people that like real drama

actually starts to happen. And they love that. Oh, of course. But now I feel like there's so much more interesting, crazy stuff going on outside of the show. Like now that we're not filming that stuff that I'm like, let's get back to doing it. Because I think that initially they brought everybody back together and it had been 10 years since anyone had seen each other. So there just wasn't, it was more like. And that's real. Like everyone really didn't see each other for 10 years.

Pretty much. Like we would run into people here and there, but that's it. That's crazy. Nobody really hung out. Yeah. Because, you know, Spencer and Heidi Spencer and Heidi made themselves the biggest villains, the most hated people in the world, which I think was their goal. But then once they achieved it, they were like, wait, we can't go anywhere. We know where to go. So they ran away to Santa Barbara and they were

living up there for a long time. Audrina's down in Orange County. Everybody just spread and went. Everybody went their own directions. So when they got us all back together, we were actually all like super stoked to be together and like, let's just have fun. This is going to be great. And the producers are like, no, no, no, no, no. It can't be like that. It's gotta be crazy. Like this is not going to work. So it took a little while. So I think they decided to kind of scrap some of the stuff that we shot at the beginning because it just didn't, you know, it wasn't compelling. It wasn't interesting. So yeah yeah so we ended up filming more and here we are very interesting so obviously with me only watching episode one i like i don't really know i know i wish you had seen more because it actually it's gotten better as the season has gone like it's just there's more we would have more to talk about because

the first episode was really just intros yeah it was um my mind is blown that misha barton's on the show oh yeah like her and her and Stephanie really friends before? Or did they kind of stage that to make it make sense that she's on the show? I don't know. Because that's how it seems to me. That's kind of funny that you could tell that. I mean. Well, actually, so Misha and Brody knew each other best.

Yeah. Okay, interesting. From years ago. But I think that they were trying to convey that in the, like when we initially started filming, this is stuff that they reshot. Okay. So when they initially started filming,

they had Brody intro Misha to the show. Oh. But it just, I think it just didn't go along with the way that the rest of the story came together. Huh. So then they just put Stephanie and her together. Got you. That's so funny.

Yeah. But Misha, I think that people will, I told her this too, because you know, she gets a really bad rap. She does. Yeah, like every article that I've seen about the show, everybody's kind of just sitting on the fact that she's on there. Well, I think just because she's had such a successful career and then nobody's seen her in a little while. So like maybe the expectations are really high.

But she's really cool. She's like a very down to earth, sweet person. She's been through a lot and so I hope Is she our age? Yeah. She is, right? I think she's Brody's age.

That is crazy. Oh, she is. So she's a little older. I was going to say because that would make her like very young on the OC. Like she had to be really young.

I think she was like 17 or 18. That's crazy. She might be our age. I'm not exactly sure. Yeah. But she's definitely grown and learned a lot over the years And I think that it'll be nice for people to see that side of her, you know? And she is, she's just, she's been through a lot like in her family and,

and just in Hollywood, you know, I kind of feel like she's like that classic tale, but fortunately she's come out the other side. Okay. Yeah. That's so crazy. I went, her voice is just so iconic. Like I can't hear her and not hear Marissa. Yeah. I just can't do it. Well that, you know, I want, yeah, I'm sure that's a problem for her too. Cause that's probably how most people feel. Yeah. And like, I feel bad even saying that because I know like Miley's been through that because Miley's voice is so unique too. Like for the longest time, everyone was just like, they would literally be like, Oh yeah, your sister Hannah. And I'm like, that's not her name. Your sister Hannah? Oh my God. Like to this day, sometimes people still say that to me and I'm like, that's not real. Like stop it.

And what really drives me crazy to totally go off topic, I have a gray horse and I can't tell you how many times people are like, is that blue jeans? And I'm like, are you guys insane? Okay. I was like not that era or whatever. I don't know. I think I was like two or three years ahead. I always tell her that because I'm like, don't be offended. I just, I never knew. I never was. No, that's probably why she likes hanging out with you because you don't know anything about the Hannah Montana thing.

I'm a super fan now, but back then I wasn't. So in the Hannah Montana movie, there was, she rode a gray horse named Blue Jeans. And I think you actually might've even been on the show some too. But I'm like, first of all, you guys like, that's not real yeah they're like they think ever is blue jeans and i'm like not only was that not real but if you used your brain a little bit blue jeans will be dead by now definitely be dead yeah but anyway so i totally i get why that has to be really really annoying and i now i feel bad for even saying it, but, but I say it out of love because I freaking loved the OC. Me too. Oh my gosh. What a great show. It's hard for me to not like always want to ask her questions about filming the OC. But she's so over talking

about it, I think. Oh, she has to be. She's so over it. Yeah. That's crazy. Okay. So because it's all I've seen, um, I'm just curious, like the scene of you and Brody sitting outside your house in Malibu, like it was a very confusing because it seemed curious, like the scene of you and Brody sitting outside your house in Malibu, like it was a very confusing because it seemed like, like when we talked about it, you were like, yeah, he slept in his truck and then he kind of makes it seem like he was sleeping in the house and then went to sleep in his truck. And I was, I was confused about that. So, okay.

What happened was he had to film for the show the night before. So he went to hide because that's one of the guys from the show like runs, runs the club hide. Oh, really? Yeah. Frankie Delgado. Oh, cool. I didn't know that. Yeah. So Frankie runs hide. And so they all went out to hide together and it was like Brody, Spencer, Frankie, the reunion. And I think Misha was there and Audrina. Okay. All right. Quick PSA for those of you out there who rent, if you haven't heard of built, you're about to thank me. Earning points on rent is now a reality when you pay your rent through Bilt. You don't even have to check with your landlord to start earning points that you can use towards flights, hotel

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360-day trial. That's even more savings. That's ShipStation.com. Code your favorite thing. Do it. And why didn't you go? Well, because they wanted the original cast to be together. Well, so maybe Misha wasn't there. Maybe it was Stephanie and Audrina. I don't know. But anyway, they didn't even use the girls in the scene at the end of the day. But so he went out to this, to the club, was out late, came home at like 4 or 5 in the morning. And I had been kind of tossing and turning all night knowing that the next day we had to start shooting for the show. And really early, right? 7 a.m.

Yeah. So he comes in at 5 o'clock in the morning and he'd been out with the guys filming that whole time. And he came in and he was feeling chatty at 5 o'clock in the morning. And I was just like, I was not having it. So I just told him, like, leave me alone. I need to sleep. And that just made him unhappy. Oh, boy.

So then he went to sleep in the truck? So he went to sleep in the guest house. And then I came out a couple hours later to wake him up to tell him the production company was coming. And I was like, okay, I've got to go get coffees for us. And he was overfilming at that point was like, okay, I've got to go get coffees for us. And he was over filming at that point. Cause obviously like I would be too. He was starting to feel hung over. And, um, so by the time I got back with coffee, he was hiding in the truck cause he didn't want the production company to find him. So, I mean, it is kind of comical in hindsight. Um, so is this because obviously you weren't on the original, um, season of the Hills. Is this the first TV you've ever done?

Have you been on TV before? Um, not really. Not really. I, I did, um, a little bit of filming for the Kardashians when Brody and I first started. Oh, okay. That makes sense. Dating. Cause he was on the show at the time. Yeah.

But it was like really minimal and I don't think I've done anything besides that. So do you, how do you find it hard to have cameras around and like, do you feel like you are, you're watching what you say or do you feel like you say too much or does it affect you at all? It was awkward for a second and then I was totally comfortable because what I did was I just, my whole philosophy was like, let's just, I'm just going to be myself. Like I'm going to say exactly what I would normally say. Like if I'm, if I'm upset with somebody, if I, whatever the case, I'm just going to

say exactly what I'm upset with somebody, whatever the case, I'm just going to say exactly what I'm thinking. So as the season goes on, it definitely gets more real and more intense. And I'm actually kind of excited because I feel like at the beginning, I was just sort of like going along with whatever. I was a little shy. And then by my green screens the other day, I was like screaming. Oh, really? Oh my gosh. I can't wait to see. Not screaming, but, like, worked up. Yeah. For me, that's a lot. Like, it was pretty intense. The production people were like, whoa. Whoa.

Okay, this is good. Yeah, but they loved it. Because I got, yeah, like, the cast got really, there were just parts during the season when we were filming where some of the topics were really invasive. And I think things that people shouldn't have been talking about on the show, but they're on the show now. So, my interviews the other day were all like recapping all of that. So it's pretty intense.

Wow. Yeah. You'll have to watch. Yeah. I'm going to start watching for sure. I just, I remember when I did the show with my mom, I just kept, I was so paranoid that they were going to like trick us into like talking about things we wouldn't talk about or say things we wouldn't normally say or have drama when we normally wouldn't that I think I was too careful and too guarded to where I just probably seemed a little boring because I, I wish I could have been more myself, but I was just so, I think I literally think cause I've been so scarred hearing my friends from the bachelorette

talk about how they, yes. And then I was just so paranoid about it that I kind of, even that scene that morning with Brody, it's like, you're not allowed to talk. We're not allowed to break the fourth wall. So we can't be like, well, we were supposed to be filming this morning and he was filming last night. You can't explain any of that. So it just kind of seems random, you know? Totally.

And it's true. The scenes I've seen, I'm like, I said that or that work. They totally changed that around. At one point I was talking about someone else and they made it sound like I was talking about Brody. So there's all kinds of things like that. Yeah. But it's a show at the end of the day.

And if I, I do back the producers make like wanting to make it really good. Yeah, totally. So it's kind of like, if you're going to sign on to do it, you just sort of have to have that mindset that it doesn't really matter what's on the show.

Yeah. I'm glad that you're, you're, you seem so like cool about it all. And now I think that's so good. Now I've been, yeah, I've been through some phases.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like nine months later I'm doing okay. Now. I think that's so good. Now. Yeah, I've been through some phases. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like nine months later I'm doing okay. Sure. All right. Anything else you want

to add about it or anything you want to plug or talk about? No, I don't think so. Nothing current. All right. That exciting. But thank you so much

for having me. Thanks for coming on and getting up early. Yeah. No, I'm an early bird. This is easy. Yeah, I am too. I've actually been up since seven. When I come out here, I get up so early because Nashville is two hours

like whatever, two hours later. And I'm always like, I'm up and no one else is up. Yeah. Same, same. I know. All right, guys. Um, well, Wells will be back next week. Um, I'll actually be back in LA next week and Wells and I will be in studio together, which will be really fun. So maybe I can grill him a little more about his engagement and how all that's been. But thanks for hanging, Caitlin. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. All right. See you guys next week. Love you. This podcast has been brought to you by Podcast Nation.