Your Favorite Thing with Wells & Brandi - Luke Pell

Episode Date: January 7, 2018

After the 1st episode of The Bachelor with Arie, Wells and Brandi invite Luke Pell on the show to hear his thoughts on the 1st episode, what it's like to be on "Bachelor Winter Games" and what we can ...expect from Mike Fleiss' newest reality TV spinoff.

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Starting point is 00:01:22 I go days without washing my hair. I go weeks without shaving my legs. I go weeks without shaving my legs. I go days without any makeup on at all. I mean, it is very rare that I look put together enough for an Instagram post, so that's why I have to stock up. I just want you to know that I'm recording this and I'm definitely not getting rid of the... I haven't
Starting point is 00:01:38 washed my hair in days. I haven't shaved my legs in weeks. Maybe months if I'm honest. Nah, it's been weeks. I shaved them before New Year's. But that was a rare occasion. That's the worst cough. Dude, everyone's at the cough, man. At the black lung pop.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I got the black lung. I've been saying that to everyone and everyone looks at me like I'm stupid. Whatever. How is that an iconic movie quote? It is. How would you look at me stupid?
Starting point is 00:02:02 You should be like, you're so funny. Yeah, no, it's great. Okay, I'm posting this. Let me see a picture first. No. All right. You better like it.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I always notice when you don't like my stuff. I know. Sometimes I don't like that shit. You better like this one. Sometimes I don't see it, to be fair. Sometimes I just don't see it. That's not cool. I've gotten to the point now where I think I like stories better than posts.
Starting point is 00:02:23 You do? Yeah. I feel like some people get better engagement off of stories than posts. I think I do for sure. I think you do. I think you are known now as like this Mr. Snapchat, Mr. Drunk Snapchat. Yeah. So people like really love your video content.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Yeah. I know. It's hard to keep it up. That's what he said. Wow. Come on. Did he? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Did you? No. How was your holiday with Sarah? Dude, it don't know. Did you? No. How was your holiday with Sarah? Dude, it was so good. Do you want to start the show? Sure. Oh, we've got a sponsor now. I've got to get that stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:53 You really killed the last one, by the way. Did you like it? Really sold it, yeah. Yeah. What's funny is that people don't know that we lost so much audio. It's so sad. We've got to tell everybody. I don't even remember what we talked about.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I got a lot of complaints. That you didn't talk enough? That it was so short. I know. And I was like, if you guys only knew what a great- That's what she said. If you guys legitimately only knew what a great podcast we recorded for you, and the minute we ended it, the computer froze.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I know. It was heartbreaking. And we stood here staring at it for a solid 20 minutes just hoping it would come back to life. And it didn't. It didn't. So that whole intro of the last episode was me trying to recreate what we did. But you did a really good job of the thing where you talked for like four solid minutes without letting me get a word in yeah you just redid it because i didn't talk anyway i know well it was really funny like
Starting point is 00:03:49 just to just to give people like kind of like a background into like my little radio expertise that was a story that expertise huh well this is like my one job but that was a story that i did tell you when we first recorded it yeah and you absolutely didn't get a word in. Yeah. And then when we realized all the audio was gone, you had flown out of town. So I tried to recreate it and then I went to old episodes and found audio of you being like, you're the dork of life. You're such a nerd.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I wondered where those came from. And like just slid them in there to be like, she's got to say something. Oh my gosh. But it matched up because the video I posted to promote was me just sitting here listening to Wells' rant, and you did a great job of recreating it, I must say. I know. All right, you want to set the show?
Starting point is 00:04:29 One of my favorite edits you've done. Thanks, bud. All right, you want to set the show? Sure. All right, bros and hoes, welcome into your favorite thing podcast with... Wells and Brandy. Yes. I'm going to say something that you guys, I think, are not going to believe, but it's kind of true.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I dig on FabFitFun boxes. All right, hear me out. Yes, they are seasonal subscription boxes full of beauty, fitness, and fashion and lifestyle products, which sounds like that wouldn't be applicable for a guy. And you'd be kind of right, as long as you're a guy that doesn't have a sister or two of them or a mom or a girlfriend. I have all of those things. And FabFitFun boxes have made my life a little bit easier dealing with all of those ladies. And dude, right now you can get a $200 box from FabFitFun for only $49.99. Just use our coupon code WELLS10 and you'll get $10 off your first box at FabFitfun.com.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Straight up, here's what I did this year for Christmas, and I thought it was genius. And I don't know if anyone else is doing this, and I don't know if they're going to get mad at me for saying this is how I did it, but whatever. I ordered a couple FabFitFun boxes, and I was like, all right, what stuff that my girlfriend would like? Pulled that stuff aside. What stuff that my mom would love? Pulled that stuff aside. What stuff that my sisters would like? And then I was like, what stuff do I kind of want in here?
Starting point is 00:05:45 Face masks or candles and stuff. There's stuff that guys are digging into. It made my gift giving so much easier. And you can get one for super cheap right now. And you can also get the editor's box. But you gotta sign up before they sell out. Getting a FabFitFun box is
Starting point is 00:06:01 kind of like Christmas, but you get it four times a year. I mean, straight up. The box I just got has a nourishing dew mask. It also came with some bath salts. And I don't take baths because I don't like sitting in a tepid pool of my own filth, but I'll tell you who does, my freaking sister. So boom, gift. Anyways, all I'm trying to say is FabFitFun boxes are pretty freaking awesome. And you can get one for super cheap right now. Just use my promo code WELLS10. That's WELLS in all caps at FabFitFun.com. And boom, $10 off your first box.
Starting point is 00:06:34 I'm not ashamed to say that I love them. All right? Whatever. You can judge me all you want. It's a new year. It's a new year? 2018? I feel really good about this year.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Do you? Yeah, I really do. And I don't say that every year. Yeah, you don't. I feel good about it. year, 2018. I feel really good about this year. Do you? Yeah, I really do. And I don't say that every year. Yeah, you don't. I feel good about it. Oh, man. Here's the thing. 2017 was such a shit year for everybody.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Yeah. But I kind of killed 2017. You got a girlfriend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was it. You feel good about that? Yeah, I got a girlfriend. I realize that doesn't happen to you often.
Starting point is 00:07:01 It hasn't happened in years. Years, I tell you. Well, let's hope you can keep her this year. I know. That's that. Oh, God. You guys spent like all the holidays together, though. I know.
Starting point is 00:07:11 It was fun. It was big. Like, she had to come. She didn't have to come. She wanted to come out. She came out to Nashville for Christmas. Does she love Nashville? I feel like she does.
Starting point is 00:07:19 She does. She's here a lot. She was like, I want to buy a house here. I was like, no. I already have a house here. Yeah, but maybe she wants one. Yeah, I get it. Then when you guys get married, you can have another rental property. I know like, no. I already have a house here. Yeah, but maybe she wants one. Yeah, I get it. Then when you guys get married, you can have another rental property.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I know. I just posted my photo, by the way. You did? Let's see how it does. All right. I feel like I'm really bad at captions. That's what I do. Is that what you excel at?
Starting point is 00:07:36 That is. I should just hire you to write me captions. Let me see your picture. You can look at it on Instagram, and you can give it a like. Oh, I will give it a like, and then I will will caption underneath it and I'll get more likes on the caption than you get on the picture. You are such a jerk. Guys, one of my least favorite things
Starting point is 00:07:52 is how little Wells likes my Instagram posts. And I notice. He thinks I don't notice. Oh, but I do. I know. Eyebrows on fleek in this pic. Thank you. Yeah, did I use that word right?
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yeah, you did. You broughtows on fleek in this pic. Thank you. Yeah? Did I use that word right? Yeah, you did. You brought it up. Alright, alright. So this coat, guys, I just posted it to my Insta, so hopefully you saw it and you liked it. It's a silver puffer coat, and I bought it because I saw Gigi Hadid wearing a silver puffer coat,
Starting point is 00:08:19 so I bought a silver puffer coat. And I love this coat, and everybody makes fun of it and calls it either a space suit or a Martian jacket. And specifically, Olivia Caridi started it, and now everybody does it, and so everyone gives me crap about this jacket, but I really like it. So, it's on the IG now. I got a new jacket I'm pretty pumped about.
Starting point is 00:08:39 You did? Is it made of cardigan material or leather? No. Okay, so I went to New York for New Year's. I saw this coat, I feel like. Yeah. No, wait. Is this the coat you wore to the Lakers leather? No. Okay, so I went to New York for New Year's. Wait, I saw this coat, I feel like. Yeah. No, wait, is this the coat you wore to the Lakers game? No.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Because I like that coat. You like that one? Yeah, that was a new one. Yeah, I got it at some vintage store. I like that coat. Yeah, that's good because people took pictures of us there. Yeah, I saw. No, because we went to New York and it's like negative five million degrees there.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I'm going on Sunday. Am I going to survive? I don't know. Bring your freaking silver puffer coat. I don, and it's like negative 5 million degrees there in New York. I'm going on Sunday. Am I going to survive? I don't know. Bring your freaking silver puffer coat. I don't think it's long enough. It's definitely not. I think I need an ankle-length puffer coat. And I've actually been searching for one for the past two days online and cannot find one
Starting point is 00:09:16 under $1,000, which I'm not spending. Yeah. I went to Express and got myself like a long peacoat. This is not sponsored, y'all. It's not. I got to be honest with you. The man shops at Express. I went all over the mall because Sarah was like, dude, we're going to New York.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Your leather jacket is not going to. It ain't going to. And I was like, what are you talking about? It's really warm. And she was like, dude, no. No. There are two things that are, two materials that are not good to wear in the winter. Leather.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah. And jeans. Yeah. There's nothing worse than having jeans on in cold weather. Well, yeah. I just had like thermal underwear underneath my jeans. Anyway, so I got one of those long peacoats and I've always thought that it was too fancy for me.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Oh, really? And you know what? It might be, but I gotta say, I kind of like the look. And then I ran into Derek and he was like, you look like Neo from The Matrix. You didn't look as cool as Neo, though. No, I didn't, and he was like, you look like Neo from The Matrix. You didn't look as cool as Neo, though. No, I didn't. But I was like.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Okay, but I think you like classy pieces. You always wear those fancy shoes that I hate. I got fancy shoes all right now. What do you think? Those are okay. Those aren't as fancy, though. It's the leather ones with the buckles that I can't stand. Oh, I'm into that.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Whatever, dude. I can't stand those shoes. And then one time, didn't I come't stand those shoes. Yeah, whatever. And then one time, didn't I come in and you were in like a polo shirt? Yeah. I've been trying to like change my game up a little bit. I don't think you should do that. I don't think. No?
Starting point is 00:10:34 I think you stick to what you're good at. Let's actually talk about some favorite things. Okay, great. Actually, no, I want to go back because we started the show with like you think that 2018 is going to be a really great year for you. I want to know why. I hope it is. It's just a vibe, you know? Yeah's going to be a really great year for you. I want to know why. I hope it is. It's just a vibe, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah. I don't know. It's a vibe. And I don't know. Like, I already, I have more jobs booked this month than I can even, like, keep up with hardly, which is a great problem to have. Yeah. I'm all about it. I'm excited about this.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Congratulations. Thanks, Wells. I don't know what 2018 has in store for me. No clue? It could be great. Could be. Or we could get bombed by North Korea, and then it's all over. That's highly possible, actually.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Or you could lose your girlfriend. Why is that one of your favorite things, you cold-hearted biatch? I only gave it one bell, not three. What the fuck? Does one bell mean you kind of hope it happens? You can't make me laugh. It makes me cough. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I've got the black lung, Pop. So later we're going to have Luke Pell on the show. We are going to have Luke Pell on. I thought because the first episode of Ari's season aired this past week. We've got to talk about that a little. And I saw that ratings were down. And we'll talk about that a little bit because I saw that ratings were down. And we'll talk about that a little bit because I've got a theory
Starting point is 00:11:48 on that. Okay. But I thought it would be cool to get someone who was supposed to be The Bachelor on the show. True story. Also, Luke's on Winter Games which is going to premiere. I know. Can we say that? We can, yeah, because Mike Flies posted that photo of the cast. Oh, really? Yeah, you didn't know that? No, I don't know. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:03 It's out there. All the people are in it. God, I can't wait for that. I really can't. Yeah. There's only how many episodes though? I gotta be honest with you. I'm more excited for Winter Games than I am for this season. But that's because all my friends are on Winter Games. Do you want to rip into this
Starting point is 00:12:19 last episode? Do you want to do it? Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it before Luke gets here. I just think that everyone is just super, super bitter that it's not Peter. Oh, 100%. And they had the one girl walk up and say, like, oh, you're not Peter. And then they aired it on a commercial
Starting point is 00:12:36 but then cut it from the episode. Did you notice that? No. Oh, yeah. I'm sure it's out there in the internet somewhere. There's one girl who walks up and literally says to him, like, oh, you're not Peter. And I saw it on Instagram in a video. And then Olivia told me that it was a commercial. But then when we watched the episode, it wasn't in it.
Starting point is 00:12:51 It's kind of funny. It's a good line, I guess. I mean, whatever. I think it was BuzzFeed. It was like, here are the girls that are on the new season with Ari. They're already selling shit on Instagram. And it was like five of them already selling crap. Already?
Starting point is 00:13:02 Yeah, and I was like, come on, man. That's insane. It took me so long to agree to do something like that. And I'm sorry, that's just like for the annoying cliche of wrong reasons shit. That is like 100% I already don't like you. You're already doing this. I know. And also, by the way, you're a shit business woman because you've got 6,000 followers.
Starting point is 00:13:24 That's true. You're a shit businesswoman because you've got 6,000 followers. That's true. And I know that you signed like a five post deal for freaking pennies on the dollar. You idiot. You are really feeling this. I remember like the last season because Danielle was one of my friends, right? So when they all got off the show, a bunch of those girls called me and they were like, what should we do? And I was like, to be honest with you, hold off as long as you possibly can.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yeah. One, because no one wants to see that you're doing that already. I know. And two, you can jack up the prices on your stupid honey tea diarrhea of hair shit. You know? All right, quick PSA for those of you out there who rent. If you haven't heard of Built, you're about to thank me. Earning points on rent is now a reality when you pay your rent through Built.
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Starting point is 00:16:39 I know. I bet you it's a breach of contract. The bachelor, if they're smart, they'll put that in there that you can't do that prior to going on the show. You're not supposed to be able to turn your freaking social media on until you are off the show officially. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:53 The second you start selling shit, that shows that you are not engaged. A thousand percent. You know? Yeah. Anyways. I agree with you. Okay, question.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Who was your favorite intro, like entrance? Did you like any of the cliche jokes or hate them all? I hated with you. Okay, question. Who was your favorite intro, like entrance? Did you like any of the cliche jokes or hate them all? I hated every introduction. I really genuinely laughed and liked the bumper sticker girl. I don't even remember who did it, but I remember that I thought that was funny. I liked the- I heard you can't put a bumper sticker on a Ferrari, but what about a Nari?
Starting point is 00:17:22 That was okay. I liked it. It was my favorite one. I think my favorite person that I'm going to hate is Becca. Which one? There's two. Oh, there is? The one that looks like someone-
Starting point is 00:17:34 A child? I have a feeling that Mickey Mouse was like, Ha! Let's go get Tinkerbell! And put her in, because ABC is now owned by Disney! Ha! Ha! Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Oh, my God. Your brain. I don't understand. And they got. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Your brain. I don't understand. And they got that girl and they plopped her right down. They were like, all right, put on a green dress for your intro package. But you have to know, everybody else seems to really like her. I've seen many people tweet about how pretty she is and how much they like her. I don't get that.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I got a feeling she's going to be not loved by the end of the season. Yeah. I already a feeling she's going to be not loved by the end of this season. Yeah. I already am not a fan. I can just read between the lines on this show. Oh, you can. I can. I can tell you who's going to. Like, my favorite person so far, single mom, kind of a bitch.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Oh, wait. Which one? Chelsea? I don't know. She's got. The one that got the rose? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:22 You know, everyone is saying she's Olivia. No. No. It's overwhelming know everyone is saying she's Olivia. No. No. It's overwhelming on Twitter. She's not Olivia. Everybody is like she looks like Olivia. This is this season's Olivia. This is budget Olivia.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Everyone is saying that on Twitter. It's insane. She is Amanda Stanton with some attitude and I love it. Some attitude. A lot of attitude. Because Amanda was like the nicest, easiest person. Also, the Latina, gotta love her. Oh, she's gotta go.
Starting point is 00:18:50 No. She annoys me. I don't like her. What's great, though, is we find out that she's like black Irish, and she's putting this on. How do you know that? No, I don't know if we should worry about it. Oh, you just think. If her name really is like-
Starting point is 00:19:02 We need a role. Okay, next week, can we have a list of names, please? Because this early in the season, it's way too hard to talk about everybody because I don't know anyone's name yet. Yeah, I mean, whatever. Who do you think is the prettiest? I don't know their names yet. Okay, I think one of the Laurens is the one I think is the prettiest. I don't know her initial, but she was the one that came in in the black dress.
Starting point is 00:19:23 It was very simple. Had a tie in the front. She's blonde. She's absolutely stunning. Sien? Sien? Anne Sien? Oh, she's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Yeah. Yeah, she's really pretty. I don't know. She's another one of those. It's just going to take a while. I got a feeling. Can I give you a theory? Sure.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Okay, so after Paradise and the scandal that came with it, I think they got a little weird about alcohol first night. Oh, 100% they did. People were drinking, but no one was getting up to 11, which, I'm sorry, that is a part of the show. Yeah. And it's a part of separating the wheat from the chaff. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:19:58 You're right. If you are too fucking stupid to keep your shit together, you deserve to get wasted, jump in the pool, and be gone when the sun rises. You're right. I agree. And if I was The Bachelor, I would want to see that somebody can't handle their alcohol.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Totally. I would want to see it. So, yeah. Or I want to see you get turnt up and be a good drunk. Yeah, or that. That's what I'm saying. I would want to know one way or the other. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:23 It's such an important test. Totally. Yeah. Anyways, I don't know. Aria seems like a nice enough guy i don't know we'll see i saw that jeff with an f1f the guy who actually won emily maynard season i never watched that i didn't either but i've met jeff uh he tweeted out i bet five thousand dollars that at the end of the season whoever he picks they won't last more than five months. Jeff is like a guy that's got some money. Oh my gosh. That's awful that he said that.
Starting point is 00:20:49 I know, but they're buds. They used to be buds. They're really not now. I know. It's just brutal, man. That's harsh. I hope that he finds someone. I hope the show is good because the freaking ratings are crap.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Tell me about this. How crap? I saw it was down like 30%, but they aired it on... The same night as the game. As the two National Championship semifinal games. Yeah, why'd they do that?
Starting point is 00:21:14 Because they wanted to do the Genuari thing, and I get it. Cool play on words, but do it in the third week. I've got a whole theory about all this, because guess what? This upcoming episode on Monday is also airing the same night as the national championship.
Starting point is 00:21:27 You are ruining your entire southern viewership because everyone's watching Georgia and Alabama. Totally. It makes absolutely no sense. If they had waited until the third week, it would be fine. But I think that the reason why they had to push it up early is because of the Batchester Games. Winter Games, yeah, 100%. So it sucks because I think it normally would have been a good first episode. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:48 But paired with the fact that they were going up against two huge football games and no one was getting turnt up to 11. Like, no one jumped in that pool. Everyone was like, what is happening here? These are good points. Do you think that Ari's hot? No. Yeah. He's just not really my type
Starting point is 00:22:06 though. Yeah. I don't think most of the guys that are the Bachelor, I don't think most of them are very hot. Yeah, but you thought Peter's a good looking guy. He wasn't the Bachelor. Oh, I know. I'm just saying if he would have been. Yeah, but I'm saying the guys they normally pick to be the Bachelor, I don't normally think are very attractive. Well, Ben. Ben was hot. Yeah. But Nick was not.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Ben is a good looking guy like as in the guy next door. Ben was hot. Now he's... was not. Ben is a good looking guy like as in the guy next door. Ben was hot. Now he's- Not with us or something. Ben is still hot. But Nick was not hot. And who was the bachelor before Ben? Chris.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Chris. Not hot. Who was the one before that? Do you know? I think it was the Puerto Rican guy or whatever. Oh, yeah. Juan Pablo. Juan Pablo.
Starting point is 00:22:44 It's okay. It's okay. Not hot. Although I understand the appeal there. He's foreign, whatever. Oh, yeah. Juan Pablo. Juan Pablo. It's okay. It's okay. Not hot. Although I understand the appeal there. He's foreign, whatever. He's a good looking dude. He was a good looking dude. Not my type. Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, Peter's hot. But yeah, if you think about it,
Starting point is 00:22:55 so the ratings were down a little bit. They were down the last season. Let's just go ahead and say, I'm just throwing it out there. It happened. I honestly think a lot of it has to do, I think it's two major things. I think one is that no one's relationship lasts and people are starting to realize none of these freaking relationships are working out and they're not real. And B, I think everyone is seeing these girls go on and sell stuff on their Instagram and
Starting point is 00:23:17 they're like, no one's here for any kind of right reason. Everyone's just here to be Instagram fans. I know. I saw there was one girl that was a social media manager. Oh, yeah. She's cute. I'm sure that she works for Google girl that was like a social media manager. Oh, yeah. She's cute. And I'm sure that she works for like Google or something
Starting point is 00:23:28 that like it'd make total sense. Or you never know. She could like manage like a business's Instagram account or she could have like you know, like a talent influencer company. Like you never know. Like she could have a legit job, but it's like slippery terrain. I know. Once I saw that, I was like oh, good. And also, okay, so like going back
Starting point is 00:23:44 to like Becca, the young one, where she doesn't want to say her age or whatever. Ridiculous. So stupid. I saw that she's a nanny in Los Angeles, which is code for an actress. Yeah, 100%. You know? Yeah. And then once I saw that, I was like, okay, you're on the show for... Oh yeah, I got it. And then the one Nashville
Starting point is 00:24:00 girl, it says server. Yeah, no, I didn't know her. Me either, but I'm also like, just make something else up. No, what's wrong with the server? A guy who's 36 does not want to marry your server. There's no way. I don't know. A guy who's going on this show. If you're young and you're serving
Starting point is 00:24:15 to make money into whatever, to work towards whatever else you want to do, great, but at least put that other thing that you want to do. You think that they've got control over that? No, but you can't tell them stuff you don't want them to exploit. You have to tell them what you do. Hey, what do you do for money? Well, I'm a waiter.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I would make something up, I swear. You would? Yeah. The second they find out that you're a lawyer. Only I'm a DJ and that's cool, so I wouldn't lie. Yeah, that's what I get too. We're so cool. Anyways, I'm going to give this season, I'm going to give it some time.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Oh, me too. Because I think I'm going to end up really, really liking it. And I'm excited because I just assumed that I'm going to have to make half these people drinks this summer. Me too. Yeah, you too. Stop trying to get it on my shit, girl. You know what? I just might be too busy to go anyway.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Oh, yeah. When is Paradise again? Films in June. I'm going to Greece for my birthday. Are you? Yeah. Want to go? I really do want to go to Greece.
Starting point is 00:25:13 It's me, Olivia, and Marta. We got to talk about your life. And my mom and her best friend. Okay, hold on. And maybe you and Sarah. Your mom's going? Yeah. Okay, hold on.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Can we just talk about how you and Olivia are like best friends now? Yeah. What is happening? We are this generation's Paris and Nicole. Oh my, the fact that you, I just threw up a little bit in my mouth. No, I do not love that. I'm Nicole. She's Paris.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Oh my God. Even though Paris is a DJ. You know what's fucking disgusting about this? Hey, Paris got engaged. Did you see? Her boyfriend's so much younger than her. Oh my God. And he's been like-
Starting point is 00:25:48 Maybe there's hope for me and Jason Tatum. First of all, the leftovers better pay real good because that ring is gigantic, dude. You know she paid for the ring. Of course she paid for the ring. Can we Google their age difference really quick, please? So I tweeted yesterday that I'm genuinely bummed that I'm not 19 for the sole purpose that I wish I could have
Starting point is 00:26:07 a crush on Jason Tatum. He's so cute. He's a great player. Hold on. Can we just rewind the reels real quick? The fact that you and Olivia think that you are
Starting point is 00:26:16 this season's This generation's This generation's Paris and Nicole. You know what's gross about that? Is that you guys have had that conversation. I'm the one that came up with it.
Starting point is 00:26:26 So if you're going to nail someone to the cross, let it be me, okay? You're like, oh my God, guys. I'm like, totally. Nicole, I know you're totally Paris. We are totally. I wish that I had been at the bar at that moment because I would have just been like.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Okay, but you can't deny how much The Simple Life shaped my generation. I mean, I lived for that show. It was a great show. And look at them now, okay? They're both like gazillionaires and still killing it and still hot. That's hot. That's hot.
Starting point is 00:26:56 That's hot. Let's invent the selfie. So, yeah, that's us. All right. That's what you guys are? Yeah. I don't know if I want to be friends with you guys. Well, you have to be friends with me.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I don't want to be a part of this. I didn't sign up for this. Yes, you did. Oh, my God. Technically, you introduced us. I know. I totally did. I didn't know this was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I thought you'd make fun of her and talk shit behind her back. No, I'm into it. I'm into her. Everyone's still mad that I admitted that I didn't get her the vibrator. But lucky for you, Patty, what's her face? The love guru. The million dollar matchmaker. She got her one.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah. That's appropriate. Me getting her a freaking- It was your idea. I like how you're acting like this wasn't your idea. Because I sat back and thought about it and I was like, man, that's kind of creepy. Maybe you should think about things before you say them, Wells. I probably should.
Starting point is 00:27:45 I got some favorite things, y'all. Went to New York for New Year's. How was it? What'd you do? All of the musical theater. Oh, I saw that on one of your guys' stories. What was your fave?
Starting point is 00:27:57 Okay, so little background. Like, I'm all about, like, music and theater and being entertained. Totally. I'm in. I won the Drama Award in the sixth grade for my portrayal of the Caterpillar in James the Giant Peach's Step Off MBD. All right?
Starting point is 00:28:11 I had three acapella songs. Wow. And if you watch those videos now, you might be surprised that it didn't turn out gay. All right? A lot of flair. I thought you were going to say surprised I didn't turn out to be a singer. No, no, no. Songwriter. Just a big gay guy. Okay. No, no, no. Songwriter.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Just a big gay guy. Okay. Because it's a lot of flair. I didn't say nobody. I mean, I'm not shocked. Yeah. Okay. Anyways.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Can't say I'd be surprised. But Sarah, that's what she grew up doing, Broadway and all that kind of stuff. She's a child actor and everything. So she was like, I really want you to go to these things. And I've been to Phantom of the Opera. Because growing up in California, we'd go to San Francisco for kind of stuff. You know, she's a child actor and everything. So she was like, I really want you to go to these things. And I've been to like, Phantom of the Opera and San Francisco. Because growing up in California, we'd go to San Francisco for all this stuff. So I'd never been to Broadway. One of her best friends is this guy named Noah, who's the new lead of Dear Evan Hansen.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Oh, that's cool. So we went to that. I haven't seen that. And here's the thing. I cried like a bitch. No. The entire freaking. You did? Dude, I cry a lot. I was going a bitch. No. The entire freaking. You did?
Starting point is 00:29:07 Dude, I cry a lot. I was going to say, you're a crier, huh? You're so sensitive. Ugh. Whatever. So soft. Oh, my God. Do you even know what the musical theater is about?
Starting point is 00:29:19 No. I don't know that one, no. Okay. Well, it's pretty heavy. It's like a suicide. Yeah. It's like 13 Reasons Why, kinda. Never saw it. Really? Yeah, I heard it wasn't good. Ah! Ah!
Starting point is 00:29:32 It's great! Anyway, saw that. Loved it. Really loved it. And then it was cool to go backstage and meet the kid that did it. He was like the main character in a show called The Real O'Neils. He was just so freaking good. And like, so he, here's what I'm, this is what amazes me about actors.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Okay. Such heavy material and he's crying. Like he's legitimately crying, but it's such a sad thing. I'm, he's also an actor, but like he was like holding the tear and the quiver in the throat and then like starting a song and then like going into like a big musical number and I was just like so taken aback and like astonished by how good that was.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Like that you could do that. It's amazing that someone could do that. I think it's amazing, especially like live theater like that. Doing movies and stuff, like you have time to like get into the emotion, get into the character, you get re-dos, but a musical like that? Yeah, no, it's it into the emotion get into the character you get re-dos but a musical like that
Starting point is 00:30:26 yeah no it's it I mean no mess ups no re-dos no time to get into it you just gotta do it yeah
Starting point is 00:30:32 it's very impressive so good then Sarah surprised me and took me to Book of Mormon how was that? oh my god loved?
Starting point is 00:30:39 oh my god I haven't seen that either you haven't? no I haven't I've seen the like cliches like the Mamma Mia's. You know, my dad was in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Really? For an entire season. Billy Ray? Oh, yeah. This was five years ago, during Christmas and stuff like that, during the holidays. Yeah, he played the old guy in Chicago. That was my dad. Book of Mormon is amazing, and it's the dumbest thing in the world, but it's so freaking funny.
Starting point is 00:31:03 And the reason why- It's dumb? Because the premise is just dumb. It's stupid in the best way possible. What I loved about it when I walked away, I was like, Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the guys from South Parker,
Starting point is 00:31:14 the guys who wrote it, they went to a money guy, showed him a script of this movie. There is a musical number about fucking a frog. No. Yes. There is a whole callback thing about a guy having maggots in his scrotum, and someone was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:31:31 Yes, we want to back that. Here's $10 million. Oh my gosh. Go take this to Broadway. Yeah, you're not selling it for me. I don't think I want to go. Oh, no. Okay, so I'll just give you the real quick CliffsNotes.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Okay. It's about a group of new Mormon recruits that are going out into the world to recruit more people to be Mormons. Is this a comedy? Yes. So they're making fun of them? Yes. Interesting. Okay. Like the best recruit and the worst recruit are teamed up together and they have to go to Uganda and try to get like the—
Starting point is 00:32:03 It sounds very politically incorrect. It's the guys from South Park. Of course it's. Are you kidding? How is this on Broadway? Oh my God. There was a moment where I was laughing so hard. No.
Starting point is 00:32:16 That the guy next to me started laughing because I was laughing. Like his laughter was like, you know, because laughing is like contagious. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And like I was like, I couldn't stop laughing. And it was like, you know how laughing is contagious? I was sneezing. I couldn't stop laughing. It was one of those making weird noises and the guy started making weird noises and Sarah's just filming me like this freaking idiot.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Anyways. Wow. New favorite thing. Musical theater. Oh. I'm growing up. I'm growing up. I'm sophisticated of you. I'm growing up. Okay, well.
Starting point is 00:32:47 As long as musical theater has musical numbers about fucking frogs, then yes. Okay, speaking of screwing animals. Oh, I love this segue. Have you seen Black Mirror? Yes. The first episode. Yeah, fucking the pig. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Okay, I watched the first. First of all, why are there only three episodes in season one? That's crazy. But I watched season one and honestly, it's so dark. Oh, yeah. I don't think I can watch any more of it. Oh, keep on watching it. I don't think I can. By the way, I can't believe we've never done this, but Black Mirror
Starting point is 00:33:17 is a show on Netflix. One of my favorite things. Everyone's into it right now. Dude, so freaking good. But you guys, it is dark. I usually don't mind dark stuff. I love scary movies, horror movies, but this is different. This is just some twisted crap. Yeah, and it's all predicated
Starting point is 00:33:36 around how technology's kind of ruining everything. It's so good. There's a famous one with Dallas Bryce Harper. Is that her name? Dallas. No, I know you're talking about that. The redhead. Yeah, the redhead.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Howard. Dallas something Howard. Yeah, it looks like Jessica Chastain. She's in one that is really famous about wanting to get more likes, and likes are all that really matters in this world. See, someone used to point out to me specific episodes, because the nice thing about it is you don't have to watch a full season because none of them are related.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Like, every episode's a different story, so you don't have to watch a whole thing. So I would like it for someone to, like, point out a few episodes that are the best that I should watch because if I watch them all, I'm going to be really depressed. Watch that one that I just told you about, the Dallas, whatever her name is. Speaking of Netflix, another new favorite thing
Starting point is 00:34:24 that's an old favorite thing that's a new favorite thing again is Peaky Blinders is back for season number four. Every time I see that, I'm like, oh yeah, Wells recommended that. Oh my God. Okay, first of all, Cillian Murphy. If you haven't seen Peaky Blinders, everyone needs to go see it.
Starting point is 00:34:36 It's freaking amazing. One, two, and three, great season. Cillian Murphy, he's like the scarecrow. You are so passionate about your Netflix. Oh my God, it's so good. It's shot so beautifully. It takes place in between World War I and World War II in Birmingham, England. Cillian Murphy is the leader of a gang called the Peaky Blinders,
Starting point is 00:34:54 and they keep razor blades in their pageboy hats, and if you get into a fight with them, they hit you with the hats, and it blinds your eyes, hence the name Peaky Blinders. Remember Gangs of New York? Oh, yeah. It's very much like that, but it's taking place in England. Some of the BBC, so we're like behind. Anyways, you know my love of Tom Hardy.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Oh, I love Tom Hardy. Is he in it? He is in it. What? He's like the mob boss for- Just saw Dunkirk, by the way. I loved. Oh, I got to see that.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Oh, it's good. He's in it. Harry Styles is in it, too. Casual. He's the mob boss for the Jews in England, or in London. Tom Hardy always plays the same character. He's so sexy. This one, he's not.
Starting point is 00:35:32 He's got bad skin, and he's meant to look bad. And now, Adrian Brody's in season four? What? And he is the mob boss from New York, he's like the Italian mob boss. He's coming for Cillian Murphy. It's shot so beautifully. It's just really well done. I'm excited about it.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Love. You know what I just saw that I love so much? It's my favorite movie I've seen in a long time. Three Billboards Outside of Missouri or whatever. I don't know what you're talking about. What? I think that's what it's called. I'm going to look it up just to make sure. But it's Woody Harrelson. And I think it was like a festival film that ended up doing really, really well.
Starting point is 00:36:09 And now it's in theaters. It'll probably be nominated for some stuff. You have to see it. You are like the only person that doesn't know about this movie, by the way. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. All right. You would really like it. I'm into it.
Starting point is 00:36:20 It's really good. What's it about? Slightly dark. But let me read you the synopsis because I'm really bad at explaining movies without giving stuff away. And I don't want to give anything away. No spoilers here. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing,
Starting point is 00:36:34 Missouri is a darkly comic drama from director Martin McDonough about a vigilant mother who takes matters into her own hands as she searches for her daughter's murderer. Fueled by fury, Mildred Hayes erects three provocative highway signs to catch the eye of the town's revered chief of police, Bill Willoughby, who is Woody Harrelson, who has made few inroads finding a culprit,
Starting point is 00:36:55 hoping the messages spur Willoughby's unprincipled protege, Officer Dixon, oh, who's Sam Rockwell, who's also awesome, into action. Mildred ignites a firestorm in the community as the police force evades charges of racism and corruption. It's really, really good. All right, I'm in. Frances McDormand is Mildred Hayes, if you know who she is. She's a good older actress, but I don't know if she's great.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Woody Harrelson, Sam Rockwell, all great. It's really, really good. Oh, one of the kids from Ozark is in it. Oh. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The girl? No, it's a boy. Oh. No, really good. Oh, one of the kids from Ozark is in it. Oh. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The girl? No, it's a boy.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Oh. No, the guy. He plays like a, he's one that sells the billboards or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, I'm down. I don't know if this even resonates with you because it didn't with me. I didn't even know about it, but there's a big debate out there between In-N-Out Burger and Shake Shack Burgers.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Oh. Did you know about this? No, but I always say Five Guys is better than In-N-Out. and Shake Shack Burgers. Oh. Did you know about this? No, but I always say Five Guys is better than In-N-Out. What? I'm from California. I'm like, In-N-Out's the best. Yeah, Five Guys is all the way. Five Guys can suck a big, fat donkey dick.
Starting point is 00:37:54 No, it can't. Yes. Because Five Guys is a cleaner, nicer version of In-N-Out. What? Yeah. First of all, Five Guys just ripped off the aesthetic of In-N-Out with the white and red tiles. It's cleaner and nicer.
Starting point is 00:38:05 No, it's the exact same store. No, it's not. It's the exact same store with the shit burgers inside. I think Shake Shack is a completely different animal. I totally agree with you. It's great, and we're getting one. Are we? You didn't know that?
Starting point is 00:38:17 No. They announced, like confirmed that we're getting a Shake Shack and a soccer team in the same day. Let's not even get into the soccer team thing. What? All about that life. All about that. I've seen hotties in town, and I'm like, where are you from? And they're like, I'm here trying out for the soccer team in the same day. Let's not even get into the soccer team thing. What? All about that life. All about that. I've seen hotties in town, and I'm like, where are you from? And they're like, I'm here trying out for the soccer team.
Starting point is 00:38:29 But that's not even the soccer team that we're going to get. What do you mean? That is a semi-pro team. That's the Nashville, the MLS team that we're going to get is going to be like dudes from Europe and stuff. Yes, sign me up. Yeah, I know. Dude, I'm telling you what.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I'm buying season tickets. You are? Yes. You want to go in? Can we Google search and see price range of soccer tickets? Because Preds tickets are so much cheaper than NBA tickets. Oh, yeah, of course. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:38:57 I don't know. I mean, don't get me wrong. I know the NBA is better, but. So growing up, yes, in California, in and out hung the moon. And I was being interviewed by some New York writer and they were like- Why? I don't know, for some stupid reason. Someone interviewed you?
Starting point is 00:39:13 Someone gave a shit about what I said about something. I don't know. It was probably like, tell us about your girlfriend. We can't get an interview with her, but maybe we can get one indirectly through Wells. Oh, that's great. So, and the Shake Shack In-N-Out debate got brought up by her, and I was like, I didn't even know this was a question. Oh, this was a recent interview.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Yeah, it was like a couple months ago. And I was like, what? In-N-Out, hands down, wins. You think? And then Ashley I. Canetti, same thing. She's from like upstate New York. East, yeah. She loves Shake Shack. And then Ashley I. Canetti, same thing. She's from upstate New York.
Starting point is 00:39:45 She loves Shake Shack. She was like, don't be one of those dull Californians that just thinks that In-N-Out is better than Shake Shack. So I went in there with an open mind and an open heart. You went into Shake Shack. I went into Shake Shack. I went twice. No. I went one day and then another time next day.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Twice in two days. That's what I was trying to say. All right, so I go. Eighth Avenue, day of freaking New Year's Eve. It is packed in there. No, packed, I'm sure. I go order what I'm, I don't know what I'm ordering. I'm like, Sarah, what the fuck do I order?
Starting point is 00:40:20 She's like, I'll get this. So I get it, all right? Yeah. Sit down, eat it. Delightful burger. Yeah. All right? Okay. But it doesn eat it. Delightful burger. Yeah. All right? Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:28 But it doesn't hold a candle to an In-N-Out burger. I disagree. I don't think In-N-Out's that great. And don't get me wrong. When I'm in LA, I eat In-N-Out. It's right by my parents' house. Like, I go. But every time I have it, I'm like, this is just not as great as it should be for the hype. What?
Starting point is 00:40:40 It's not. And you have to admit the fries suck. I will 100% admit that those fries- They're awful. Are- Yes fries are dumpster fire fries. They're awful. They're awful. And I will say this, Shake Shack fries? Great.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Amazing. Great fries, great shakes. Especially with the cheese and then the bacon on top? Yeah. Oh, okay. I don't get the bacon, but yeah. Yeah, whatever. Their shakes are better too at Shake Shack.
Starting point is 00:41:02 So I went back the next day. And now it's like a McDonald's shake. It's like the same. I'll tell you what. I'm not getting shakes when I go. I'm not. Why not? I do.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Strawberry shake, please. Also, I get my fries extra well done because that's the only way I can tolerate them. At In-N-Out? Yeah. Yeah, of course. Extra crispy. Yeah. Part of the secret menu.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Oh, yeah. Oh, anyways. Go back the next day because Derek was like, dude, you got to get the Smoke Shack. I was like, okay. No one told me that. That's the same burger, but with bacon on it. So I get that. Delicious.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Here's why you really can't compare the two. You can't. They're not the same type of burger. No. Shake Shack is a dive bar burger. It's greasy. It's kind of flattened. It's on cheese.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Oh, here's Luke. Hey, what's up? Curious to know what Luke is saying Hey are you here Yeah can you let me in Yeah No I'll be down in two seconds Appreciate it
Starting point is 00:41:54 Bye bye Alright I'm gonna go get him Alright let's welcome in To the Your Favorite Thing podcast Right now My good friend And a guy that went much farther
Starting point is 00:42:03 Than me On the show The Bachelorette, Luke Pell, everybody. G'day, Mike. How are you, man? Good to be here. Luke Pell. Yeah, I'm doing really well.
Starting point is 00:42:12 2018 has started off with a bang, and I cannot wait. See, it's going to be a great year for Luke, too. I feel it. It's going to be good. I feel it in my bones. Same. Yes. I know.
Starting point is 00:42:21 I like the positivity. Was your 2017 shitty? No, I never look at a year and say it was a bad year. yes I know I like the positivity was your 2017 shitty you know no I never look at a year and say it was a bad year I look at it and say what did I learn from this year
Starting point is 00:42:31 and how good is next year gonna be how much better can next year be I like Luke's attitude right he woke up on the right side of the bed
Starting point is 00:42:38 I feel good you know what I'm saying was your 2017 shitty I feel good so uh oh that's a yes. No, no.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I actually... Clary's the throat. No. I was like, I'm just going to bring up something kind of sad, but I felt like I had a really great year. I've made more money this year than I've ever made. I've worked more. I've made so many friends, traveled to many cool places.
Starting point is 00:43:00 And then not that long ago, my dog passed away. I know. I'm going to cry. I've had her for so long. And so, like, that to me was, like, a really, I don't know, just, like, a terrible way to end, like, a pretty good year. And it happened at the end of the year, too. And it did.
Starting point is 00:43:14 It happened right before the holidays. So that was really hard. And, like, it's funny how that can make an entire year seem horrible. Yeah. So I'm looking forward to a new year. Yeah. A new year, a new puppy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Probably not for a while. Replacement. You got to wait for a little while. Yeah. A new year, a new puppy. Yeah. Probably not for a while. Replacement? You got to wait for a little while. Yeah, you got to wait a little bit. Yeah. But just come to the Humane Association with me. Then I'll leave with the dog. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:43:33 That's the problem. That's the issue. As soon as you see him, you can't say no. That's how I got this first one. Oh, is it really? I was going for a visit and coming home with the dog. Oh, that's awesome. So someday.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Probably not this year, though. All right. Yeah. Okay, so 2018's kicking off pretty good. What's going on with you right now? I mean, I know you're doing the music thing. Yeah, yeah. No, we're releasing new music this month, actually next week.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And so we're excited to put that stuff out. And we've got show dates. We're going to have a full calendar this year. Oh, you're going to play in Nashville? We're going to be back on the road. Yeah, we have a Nashville show, actually. It's going to be, I think, in April. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:44:07 So we'll actually do a local one. So that'll be fun. Yeah, good times. So we're excited. New year, my charity, creativevets.org, we're excited about where it's going. And we had a Time magazine did a documentary on it. And the founder, my buddy Richard Casper, back in November and really got a lot of traction. So we're excited to help that grow and excited to have the band back out on the road.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Wait, tell everyone about Creative Vets because it's a really cool idea. And when you say that, because I remember when we did Family Feud, we were all like, well, what's your charity? What's your charity? And then you said yours and everyone's like, that's probably better than all of ours. But we didn't really know a whole lot about it so tell everyone because it's a really cool idea yeah creative vets um it's based here in nashville tennessee but the interesting thing about it it's very unique in that there are a lot of veterans charities out there but this one is a veterans charity that is in the creative space so it kind of helps veterans come back that are combat wounded
Starting point is 00:45:03 and have maybe ptsd or have a physical injury. And a lot of things that they went through in their time in service. And they bring them to Nashville and let them write with a hit songwriter and kind of tell their story through songs. And they also work with the Chicago Art Institute and put them through a visual art program and kind of help them tell their story through art. And so those are the two fronts that they work with veterans on. And it's just, it's gotten a lot of great traction and the feedback from the guys and the families of the guys that have been through the program is just incredible. And they love it. We just, it's a young charity and it needs help. It needs some growth and
Starting point is 00:45:41 we're starting to get that now. And so, yeah, on family feed was awesome yeah I was a good it was a good chunk to help them but they there's so much more to do and when I look at charities there's a lot of charities that reach out you know and and to me it's like I always want to look at the people who run it first and say how is it designed is there good people is this charity doing good things and a high percentage of all the profits going back to the actual cause. And I can say that. I know personally the people at Creative Vets, Richard Casper, the founder of it,
Starting point is 00:46:15 Linda, who's been such a great mentor, and she's a co-founder as well. She's from Chicago. And Jeremy is actually on the board as well. Those guys, they run such a great organization. Their heart is truly in the right place and so i'm just excited for where it's going to go and the impact that it's going to have this year so if people want to check it out what's the website yeah creativevets.org is where they can find it so i feel like you need to get my dad involved yeah that would be great is he has he done some stuff with some charities i guess well he yeah he has but he's just like so involved in like all things
Starting point is 00:46:44 yeah and his dad was a veteran yeah something he's really but he's just, like, so involved in, like, all things veterans. And his dad was a veteran. Yeah, I love that. It's just something he's really passionate about. And I don't know. You should talk to him about it. Yeah, I would love to talk to him about it. I'd love to get involved.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Let's do it. I imagine that's such a cathartic thing for someone who has been through, like, a lot, crazy war stuff that just sitting down and, like, getting to write out your feelings is probably something that's super helpful and a lot of people wouldn't even think to do it yeah absolutely it's just there's a lot of people out there clinics that are helping with ptsd and therapists and all these things and they're trying to do it prescription drugs and trying to treat it and you know really this is doing it in a different way and it helps so much like you said it's kind of hard to treat it. And, you know, really this is doing it in a different way and it helps so much. Like you said, it's kind of hard to put it in words what happens. And a lot of people, they hold it
Starting point is 00:47:28 in and they don't. And that's kind of part of why they have PTSD because they've never had an outlet where they can kind of just release it and deal with it, you know? And this is an outlet for them to do that. You know, my personal experience, I got to write with one of the veterans that we brought in, a guy named Xavier. We brought him in from San Diego. First time I had done this was myself, Andy Albert, and Richard Casper. And we wrote with this guy, never met him before in our life. And he flew in. Richard picked him up at the airport, brought him in the next day. And we sat down, and within 15 minutes, he starts telling us his story, just what happened, the narrative of his time in combat and then losing a friend. And it was just like literally grown men in tears within 15 minutes
Starting point is 00:48:08 because it just gets so deep so quick. And so it was cool, man. We wrote a great song out of it. And so that's when I was a believer. I was like, this works, and this is a real impacting charity. So, yeah. It's also just a good idea in terms of therapy. Because I imagine, especially in that realm,
Starting point is 00:48:25 where you are supposed to be the most macho motherfucker in the world. And then talking about your feelings is probably something that everyone would shy away from. Especially if you are built to be this big macho dude. And so doing that thing, but then doing it in this cool musical sense, can, I'm sure, bring down so many walls that need to come down to heal. Absolutely. Emotions are discouraged in the military. That's kind of one of the negative things about the military culture.
Starting point is 00:48:55 It's a pro and a con at the same time because taking emotion out of it, in my experience, you go through basic training and you go into combat. And so to make, you're kind of like this, you come in this Jason Bourne kind of character to make good decisions in combat that are logical and all these things. You don't need to make emotion, have emotion to make those decisions. You need to have less emotion to make, you know, great decisions in bad situations. And so it's discouraged. So then to have to come back from that military culture and find emotion again and find feeling and be okay with it, it's a big hurdle for a lot of veterans to get over. And it was a personal one. That was like the one thing that I noticed when I came back.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I was trying to just sit down at lunch and just relate with people and just have normal conversations about life. And it was hard. I was like, I felt kind of awkward. I was like used to I would be very comfortable in this situation. And I've come back from being overseas for a year, and it's like I'm having a hard time just talking about normal things and caring about what somebody's talking about, just the everyday life situation that they're going through. My empathy was distracted. So anyway, it's a great charity, great cause. And then you went on The Bachelorette where you had to talk about your feelings all the time.
Starting point is 00:50:04 That was next level, level 100. I'll talk about your feelings all the time. That was like next level, level 100. I'll talk about your feelings. So much feelings. That was great, wasn't it? I can't believe you guys were on that together. I know. My brain doesn't ever think that way. Like, oh yeah, they were on the same season. Yeah. It seemed
Starting point is 00:50:19 like a lifetime ago for me. It does. Yeah, it's been a lot to happen in the last year and a half, whatever it's been. Almost two years I guess now since we started. Did you watch Ari's season? Yeah, I did. I watched the premiere. I was excited to have you on the show because let's just be honest, you were
Starting point is 00:50:35 supposed to be the Bachelor. Everyone thought it was going to be you. Very similar to this most recent season where I imagine Peter is sitting in a room thinking the exact same thing you felt like nine months previous. Well, you were on the rumor train this year. There was a lot of buzz about Wells being the guy this year. I was like leading that train.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I was like, Wells for Bachelor! You never know. And that's what I've learned just by the last couple years now, the last rounds of casting for The Bachelor and being in that conversation. rounds of casting for The Bachelor and being in that conversation is nobody really knows, even in the Bachelor organization, they don't know until the last minute. And so that's just the norm for them. It's so crazy. It's anybody's guess.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Here's my question that I kind of wanted to ask you, because you were supposed to be The Bachelor, right? Yeah. Did you watch next season? Not really. No? I did a lot of watch parties for next season, but I didn't do any. I would imagine that I would have watched that season and I would have been like, I wish I was that guy because there's all these girls that I would be into.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Or I would have been like, thank God I'm not that guy because there's all these girls I wouldn't be that into. You watched the show through a different lens after knowing that that could have been you very easily. Yeah, I think so for sure. I mean, you kind of visualize, like, how would that have gone? What would that conversation have been like, you know, if I was there? Or whoever they end up with, you're like, would I have ended up with the same person? Because they're the most just overall compatible person to be there? Or, you know, how does that all work?
Starting point is 00:52:03 So, yeah, I think about it a little bit. I was watching the entrance where the girl came in and brought in the little dick. And she was like, you don't have a little dick, do you? What'd you think about that joke? I probably would have said something to the effect of, yeah, but you're not going to find out until Fancy is sweet. And then it's going to be too late. And that's why you would have been the best bachelor.
Starting point is 00:52:23 What's funny is that wasn't the only little dick joke in the entries. There was another one, like the girl that had the spray tanning thing. Yeah. Oh, hers was awful, though. I see a lot of dicks. I hope I don't see one with you or something like that. Yeah. I didn't like that joke.
Starting point is 00:52:37 I mean, how many jokes can you do in one night of limo exits with dick jokes? They try to do as many as possible, I think. I know. Is that like the thing? Is he known for having like a big dick or a little dick? No, I think it's just like
Starting point is 00:52:48 the most awkward way a girl can introduce herself is to go straight to talking about somebody's cash and prizes. They're cheating. I guess. I bet you those girls
Starting point is 00:52:58 think like, oh, he'll remember me if I say the word dick. Yeah. And then he ends up sending them all out. I brought him a little keychain peepee.
Starting point is 00:53:05 A little peepee keychain. Like, what am I supposed to do with this? Yeah, put this in my pocket and save it for later. Oh, my God. Carry it around. It's pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:53:12 But Ari, the good thing about Ari, though, he's, like, owning, you know, the mishaps and the awkwardness or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:19 You know, he's already, like, changed his, like, his profile on his Twitter to being, like, excitement excites me or whatever, and making fun of himself. So that's cool to see that he's at least making fun of himself. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Yeah, I think everyone forgets that it's a two-way street, and whoever the lead is, yes, they're the main focal point, but they're still freaking out too, I'm sure. Oh, absolutely they are. Yeah, because they've got all this going through their head, and they're trying to process, and it's a new challenge for them just to get through all that information flowing in. Where do you stand? Where's your mark? Like there's so many things behind the scenes of them just having to get through the night too.
Starting point is 00:53:53 So hope the best for Ari. I do too. He seems like a super nice guy. I don't know. And to be honest with you, he looks like a guy because he looks a little bit older. He looks like a guy that actually would want to get engaged right now. Yeah, I don't think that he's going to run around and play the field five months after he gets done with this show. He looks like, buddy, you need to get home and have some kids after this and start a family.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Not getting any younger, buddy. Biological clock is ticking. But he also kind of did the playing the field thing, right? He was on the show and then got to go and kind of probably be the fuck boy. And now he's like, all alright, now I'm back. I just feel like the girls they cast for him are still very young. Why'd they do that? Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:54:32 that is interesting. That's true. Because those girls aren't ready to settle down. They're ready for Instagram sponsorships, like we said. Well, it's funny you say that because I think in the casting process, they don't necessarily, they're not casting it for a certain bachelor, so they don't know if they're not casting it for a certain Bachelor. Like you just said, they don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:52 They don't know if it's going to be a 26-year-old Dean or a 25-year-old Dean or a 36-year-old Ari up until the last minute. And they've already casted most of the girls. And they make a few adjustments, I think, maybe at the end. I think they need to do a better job of picking. And I know they're trying to save spoilers or whatever. But I think they need to do a better job of picking The Bachelor or The Bachelorette sooner so that they can cast intentionally. That would be interesting if they would, yeah. Don't you think?
Starting point is 00:55:08 I still have a theory about our season. I remember thinking, I don't think I'm right for this person at all. Sure. Like, of all the things that, like, every time
Starting point is 00:55:15 I sit down and talk with her, I don't think our things align at all. Right. And if you remember, like, our season was supposed to be Kayla. Kayla, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Oh. And if you look at it, like, was supposed to be Kayla. Kayla, yeah. Oh. And if you look at it, like, if you look at it, like, no offense, but, like, there wasn't a huge, in terms of looks, you and Jordan and Chase and even Rob, you guys all kind of looked similar. Kind of similar look, yeah. Really, like, in great shape, like, kind of like ex-athletes. Yeah. With similar hair, like, light hair.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Similar hair. You guys all had, like, cool hair. Sure, sure. And then there were, like, there's, like, me and Derek and, like, Evan and, like light hair. Similar hair. You guys all had cool hair. Sure, sure. And then there's me and Derek and Evan, and one of these things is not like the other. In my mind, I was like, was I supposed to be on the Kayla season? Well, that would have been a more eccentric season. I don't know. Maybe a little bit.
Starting point is 00:55:58 I assume, because after getting to know her. I feel like you would match better with JoJo than Kayla. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I know Kayla briefly, but I think, yeah, like if it was Kayla's season, that's a completely good point
Starting point is 00:56:11 because I think my connection would have been way different. It would have been like a slower building of a connection if there was going to be one at all, whereas like JoJo and I
Starting point is 00:56:18 were like immediately a good chemistry and stuff. But I just know you. But Kayla would have been completely different. And you like edgy girls. Not that JoJo's edgy, but she's definitely edgier
Starting point is 00:56:26 than Kayla. I love Kayla, but she's very vanilla. Yeah. And JoJo at least has a sexy, edgy vibe. Yeah. So I feel like your chances
Starting point is 00:56:34 with Kayla would have been even worse. Listen, the fact that I made it as far as I did is like, the leather jackets always work, Wells. I know, he's trying to go rogue and wear pea coats.
Starting point is 00:56:44 What? You can't do that. I know. Don't let Sarah change you, Wells. I know. He's trying to go rogue and wear peacoats. What? I can't do that. No. I know. Don't let Sarah change you, Wells. Don't let Sarah change you. No, I wore a peacoat because I went to New York, and it's freaking three degrees there.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Well, New York is the one place. It's the one place. If you're going to wear a peacoat, you can pull it off in New York. I feel like that's true. I saw it, and I was like, I look good in this. I'm into this, all right? I almost bought a peacoat for a New York trip one time. And what happened? I didn't take the trip, didn't buy the coat.
Starting point is 00:57:10 All right, there you go. They make these things now called puffer coats, guys. I know, you look great in them. They're really on trend. They're one of my favorite new... Let's talk about some favorite things. Okay. I want to know about some of Luke's favorite things.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Me too. All right. What's one of your favorite things this week? The Titans are in the playoffs. I know. Boom. I can get on board with that. First time in seven years, nine years, whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Insane, yeah. I think 2008 was the last. Something like maybe nine years. Yeah, so anyway, that's exciting. I agree. I want to watch. I know. I'll bring the guacamole.
Starting point is 00:57:41 You want to come over and watch? Yes. Let's do it. The guac. Watch party. You know the way to Wells watch? Yes. Let's do it. The guac. Watch party. You know the way to Wells' heart. Any type of Mexican food, Wells is there. I'm right there with you.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Oh, I got a question. Yeah. Here's always my trivia question. It's also things you like or whatever. But I ask people this all the time. I'm like, if you were going to the electric chair. Took a turn. It doesn't have to be dark.
Starting point is 00:58:03 The rest of this is not dark. Only that part is. but it's a setup but what would be your final meal yeah you know last meal I feel like I would want to do something
Starting point is 00:58:12 that gave me this like massive diarrhea so like I'm going out like just wow that's great no sure
Starting point is 00:58:21 mine would be no one else is going to know what this is. You guys ever eaten at J. Alexander's? Yeah. I worked there for two years. Their ahi tuna burger, it's like my favorite meal of all meals, anytime, anywhere. That's what I would have. Respectable.
Starting point is 00:58:36 I like that. What about you? Chips and guac. That's it? Just that? Wow. What? I would go out with guacamole, man.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Just feed me. Do you make your own homemade guac? I like to if time permits. I will make it. If time permits. A lot of times I just pick it up at the turnip truck or wherever. But I haven't found retail guac in the grocery store anywhere that is anywhere close to homemade guac. That tastes the same.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Preservatives, whatever you can taste it in there, I'm like, that's okay. But it's about 70% as good as homemade guac. I agree. You know the trick is you're supposed to leave the pit in Like preservatives, whatever you can taste it in there, I'm like, that's okay. But it's like about 70% as good as homemade guac. I agree. You know the trick is you're supposed to leave the pit in the guac, right? The avocado, like the seed? The seed. Once you make your homemade guacamole, you're supposed to put that in the guacamole. And it keeps it from going brown longer.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I never knew that. That's interesting. I thought you just dumped lemon juice in there. That's it. And it keeps it from brown. Yeah. Well, that's good. I learned something today.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Learned something new on the Favorite Things podcast. Okay, can we talk about Bachelor Games? Are we allowed to do that? Yeah, Winter Games. Let's talk about Winter Games. Oh, we're talking about it. Okay, so I didn't even know
Starting point is 00:59:31 she was saying that Mike Fleiss released a picture of like everyone there. Yeah. I saw one picture where it was Ben. Not everyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:37 But most Americans. I saw a picture where it was Ben and Dean. Yeah. And I was like, okay, there you go. No, it was like a group photo of like people walking.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Yeah, it was at the parade. There were little opening ceremonies, if you will. Yeah. And I was like, oh, okay. No, it was like a group photo of people walking. Yeah, it was at the parade, our little opening ceremonies, if you will. Yeah. They had some Bachelor alums come in with the torch. Well, it wasn't exactly an Olympic torch. It was a Bachelor lantern, you know, because Bachelor, there's always like a lantern candle in the background, you know? Yeah, of course. So they brought that, and they brought it all the way from LA and flew it all the way
Starting point is 01:00:03 out to Vermont, which was great. How was Vermont? So, eternal bachelor flame. You know, Vermont was great. Is it worth visiting? Absolutely. I would like, it was really, like, quaint, just small town, quiet mountains. But it's like a bedroom community for, what is it, Hartford, and then, obviously, New York.
Starting point is 01:00:19 So, a lot of people that are up there, where we actually filmed at, they all come from New York and Hartford. I've never been to Vermont. It was like a private ski club or whatever. Pretty cool. Homes and stuff. So yeah, it was super nice. Can you explain to me what the hell the show is? Because I have no idea what's happening.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Man, I still haven't really decided what's going on with the show. I'm still thinking back through, flaying it through my mind. I feel like no one really knows because it's never been done before. Yeah. Like coming from someone that filmed a first season of a series, like no one has any because it's never been done before. Yeah. Like, coming from someone that filmed a first season of a series, like, no one has any idea what's going on. Right. Like, you kind of make it up as you go, and even then,
Starting point is 01:00:52 once they start editing, it turns into something completely different than what you thought. Okay, hold on. Let me just, real quick, because I have, like, my perception of the TV shows that I have been on. Sure. This is how I see it. Someone's got a date.
Starting point is 01:01:03 You can choose someone to go on the date, and that date's adventure is a winter sport. Is it like that? No. Not at all. No, not at all. Wells is wrong. But that was a great theory.
Starting point is 01:01:15 I mean, that could be cool. Sounds too much like paradise, though. But then, yeah, I mean, you still want to keep the integrity of the date, right? You still need to have the food that you don't eat. Yeah, got to have that. The toast that you can't make. Yeah. And sit there and make out with somebody that you don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you've got to keep all that together. So if they were competing on the date, it would be a little bit distracting. So competitions are kind of in between dates, if you will. Okay. I can say that, and it's not really a spoiler of any way. And if you win a competition, do you get something out of it? Or is it more just like...
Starting point is 01:01:47 Yeah, I would say that... You get a date? How the competitions go kind of directed how the relationships and the dating would go. Were you all living together? Yeah, absolutely. Like in a house? That was not different.
Starting point is 01:01:59 That's like a bachelor pad, or even Paradise is similar. Yeah, so that was all pretty, which was cool. I like that. It makes it a lot more relaxed environment when everybody's together. And there's cameras in there watching you all the time? Oh, absolutely. As long as the union laws will let them be there, they're there. You're like, did I or did I not get screwed up?
Starting point is 01:02:19 The bartenders were great, but there were no Wells Adams. All right. Making sure it wasn't like Alexis was like, I'm going to take over this job. Oh, God. That would have been funny. It kind of would have been awesome, actually. Yeah. They should have done that.
Starting point is 01:02:33 This was like a mix of every reality TV show you've ever seen. Okay. And they just did little elements of all these different things, and you're trying to figure out what's next. Because that was what was weird for us because, you know, like if you've been on The Bachelorette or The Bachelor, like you can watch other seasons and kind of know what to expect. How's it going to go?
Starting point is 01:02:52 What's the protocol? This was like completely all the, like the ceremonies and things in between. We were kind of like, we don't know what's going to happen here. What's going to be the rules? Like we're learning as we go. And so that was what was really interesting as far as being a cast member on there. Are there roast ceremonies? There are. There are. That's still a Bachelor
Starting point is 01:03:10 thing that's consistent with this, but they're not always maybe traditional or like we think they might be. That's what's going to be interesting. Right out of the gate, it's going to be like, whoa, this is a weird change up and nobody's going to see it coming. Really? Is this only four episodes or something?
Starting point is 01:03:26 Well, I think that's still up in the air right now as far as how many episodes it's going to be. I know, that's what I was thinking. I heard that rumor, and I was like, what? How can you pack all this into that few episodes? Yeah, so I don't know. I've heard it maybe four, maybe six. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Yeah. So it just depends on the network time slots and kind of how they feel. Because, I mean, technically this is kind of a pilot, so it hasn I don't know. So it just depends on the network time slots and kind of how they feel. Because, I mean, technically this is kind of a pilot, so it hasn't been done before. So, I mean, if it's a flop, they want to cut it in four episodes and get it over with. When we were filming Paradise last season, aside from the misconduct thing and the shutdown, when we came back and started filming it, I was like, dude, this is going to be so funny. This show is so freaking funny.
Starting point is 01:04:04 I know it's going to be good. It's going to be rough seas in the beginning, and then it'll be really, really good. Sure. So did you get that feeling of like, all right, this is going to be a good show? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, because one of the big parts of that was the international people that they brought in. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:18 So like Paradise, you kind of know. It's all Bachelor alumni, and we all know each other kind of before you even filmed Paradise. you kind of know it's all bachelor alumni and we all know each other kind of before you even film paradise but this like there's international people there that have done other bachelor series and like 12 different countries that there's a lot of people you don't don't know at all so yeah and they don't know how you know the way that they produce those other shows may be a little different their experience was different um not to mention just their normal like cultural differences from say the uk or new Zealand or Australia or China or Japan. All these people
Starting point is 01:04:47 come in with different experiences and they're within a very short amount of time able to have to come to terms with how we operate
Starting point is 01:04:55 and how this show is going to go. So it was funny to just get through some of that. Great characters on there. Some people couldn't even speak English.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Really? That's crazy. So do you have a translator? Yeah. What? I promise there will be a lot of subtitles that will have to be used for this. Can I ask you this question? You don't have to answer it.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Because you saw the first episode of Ari's season. Yeah. Is any of those girls showing up? I think if some people look at that photo online from the opening day parades, they'll see a few people that they just noticed on ours. I assumed that that's what was going to happen. So they must have gone
Starting point is 01:05:32 straight from filming one to the other, huh? Well, I don't know who's in the photo. I can't remember. You can definitely have like night one girls that can go straight and do that. Here's like where I get like get conspiracy theory. Because they had a couple of people
Starting point is 01:05:47 that had intro packages that got kicked off Night 1. I'm sitting there being like, why are you doing intro packages for a chick that's not even making it through Night 1? That is kind of funny, yeah. What's the point of that? Yeah, so maybe they go...
Starting point is 01:06:01 Wasted some time. I think there were some intro packages done for Bachelor of Winter Games for people that didn't even make it to the show as well. Yeah. Of course, that kind of reminds me of my old Bachelor days. You can relate to that. I can relate.
Starting point is 01:06:16 It's pretty crazy. Are you glad you weren't the Bachelor? I'm very content and happy with it, yeah. I mean, it's a little bit of like, you bit of That for me, I took a lot of time To think about it, try to get myself In the emotional right spot to go through That whole process And stay single and all that stuff
Starting point is 01:06:33 And not date I like how that's a struggle for most people And I'm like Staying single for a few years now I can handle it a little longer Hashtag staying single It's so hard to stay single for a few years now because I can handle it a little longer. Hashtag staying single. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:06:47 and then, it was just like the way it happened. It's like it's so hard to stay single. My expectations for that weren't in touch with reality, I guess,
Starting point is 01:06:54 for it, how that process was going to go exactly. But anyway, but yeah, I'm one of those people I feel like everything happens for a reason
Starting point is 01:07:00 and there's always silver lining and so the way that it happened, I'm completely happy with. That's good. Yeah, and who knows, maybe when I'm 36, 37, maybe the way that it happened, I'm completely happy with. That's good. Yeah. And who knows?
Starting point is 01:07:06 Maybe when I'm 36, 37, maybe when I'm 40. Totally. Maybe I'm 40. I'll be the first 40-year-old bachelor. Oh, my gosh. Wait, is Ari the oldest bachelor? I think he's the same age as Nick, huh? Yeah, Nick was 35, 36.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Nick looks so young. I know. How? That's my biggest compliment for Nick. He does not look his age. I think he looks like 26. Yeah, I agree. He looks so young to me. He looks sub-30. Yeah, for Nick. He does not look his age. I think he looks like 26. Yeah, I agree. He looks so young to me.
Starting point is 01:07:27 He looks sub 30. Yeah, for sure. He's kept himself in really good shape. I'll say this, Nick looks a lot better than he did when he came on the first Bachelorette
Starting point is 01:07:34 casting photo. Have you ever seen Side by Side? Yeah. He was like a little, I mean, a little chunky. He was a little dorky.
Starting point is 01:07:40 I mean, he's still kind of dorky, but he was really dorky. I was like, wow, most improved, though. Most improved award goes to Nick Vino. Most improved. They should have superlatives for The Bachelor. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Bachelor Nation. For sure. Okay, so who is Bachelor MVP? Emily Maynard's had the most bachelors come out of her bachelorette season. Really? That's interesting. Yeah, I think she had Sean and Ari both were in her season. And I don't know if anybody else has had more than two.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Well, I feel like if we're going off of like MVP is who's performed the best, right, in sports pretty much. What's the guy's name that actually got married and stayed married? Sean Lowe. Sean Lowe. He would be the MVP. I'd give him MVP. And Tristan and Ryan. They have like three kids or something.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Evan and Carly. Evan and Carly. Evan and Carly, yeah. Yep. As of late. Jade and Tanner. Oh, Jade and Tanner definitely get MVP. Jade and Tanner's baby
Starting point is 01:08:32 gets MVP. That baby is fucking beautiful. Yeah, it is. God. It's one of those babies you're just like, ugh. You're so cute. You're too cute.
Starting point is 01:08:41 You're too cute. I don't like you. Gerber babies. Yeah, exactly. It's got like more Instagram followers than all of us combined. Oh my gosh. Maybe you. Speak for yourself.
Starting point is 01:08:52 First year of kindergarten, you've got 100,000 subscribers. Oh my gosh. Could you imagine? Guys, that's crazy. I only use FlexoLite lunch boxes. Just locking down like really good like pudding deals.
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Starting point is 01:09:18 20. Emerson 30 for 30% off all highlighters. Back to school special. 64 count Crayolas. Alright, so Jade and Tanner win the MVP.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Most improved is Nick. Yeah, absolutely. For sure. Most likely to be Abercrombie and Fitch model. Who's that? Peter. Yeah. Slash, he kind of already was probably. Briar. Slash. He kind of already was probably. He might have been.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Briar. Yeah. True. Most dramatic. Yeah, there you go. Best villain. Oh, best villain. That was a great superlative.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Chad? I think Chad, man. Chad, maybe. I mean, Chad was more of a villain than Corinne was. Chad completely owned it. And even I look back at some other villains, and villains were weak until Chad came on. He set the bar to a whole new level of villain. No, Lee was pretty bad.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Lee was just racist. Yeah. Lee was just not. Lee was pretty mean to Kenny, though. You got to remember. I get it. Lee was just like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy.
Starting point is 01:10:19 He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy.
Starting point is 01:10:19 He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy.
Starting point is 01:10:19 He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. He was like, oh, you're that guy. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Yeah. Most awkward. Most awkward. Most awkward? Oh. Oh, I got real personal. Most awkward? Most awkward? Oh. Oh, wow. There's been a lot of those.
Starting point is 01:10:30 I feel like Evan was pretty awkward. Poor Evan. I love him to death. That was funny how we paired up like the least combative person of our whole season, Evan, with the single dad, the youth minister, all these things,
Starting point is 01:10:42 and he gets paired up against the villain. That was perfect. That was so great against the villain. That was perfect. That was so great. I know. That was so great. Tearing t-shirts and whatnot. His t-shirt had like a GoFundMe account or something for a while to get Evan a new shirt. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:10:54 I don't know who started that, but it was gold. I love the internet. Oh, I do. You either love it or you hate it. Yeah, exactly. Evan, though, in person is much different. Totally. He has confidence about him in person. Oh, I love Evan. Yeah, he's great. That you don't see on TV., is much different. Totally. He has confidence about him.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Oh, I love Evan. Yeah, he's great. That you don't see on TV. He's very interesting. Yeah. Very interesting. Evan's great. Well, he's very patriarchal.
Starting point is 01:11:13 He's been a dad for 10 years or whatever. He's about to be a dad again. Yeah. Who's had the best parlay from Bachelor World to something else? Me. I think I did. I got to be the bartender. Oh, and you have Sarah Hyland.
Starting point is 01:11:27 That actually was very interesting. Yeah, you came back in a noncommittal position. You kind of did win the Bachelor, too. Yeah, you and Ashley both. Who would have thought? That was great. I know, right? The two of you.
Starting point is 01:11:38 We made out eating tacos, and now we're killing it. What can you do now? Jordan's doing pretty good, too. Jordan's doing great. Oh, yeah. Jordan's killing it. Yeah. Anyway, what else? I don't. What can you do now? Jordan's doing pretty good, too. Jordan's doing great. Oh, yeah. Jordan's killing it. Yeah. Anyway, what else?
Starting point is 01:11:48 I don't know. Do you have any other favorite things? Favorite things? Have you seen any good movies lately? Are you watching any good TV? It's funny that Netflix, the phenomenon behind Netflix is weird that it's like YouTube. You know how you used to watch? You'd start watching cat videos, and then you just go down this rabbit hole, and it just takes you. You start watching cat videos and then, you know, you just like go down this rabbit hole
Starting point is 01:12:05 and like it just takes you. You just ride the train, right? And Netflix is the same thing with the suggested deal. Like you start with Narcos and then you're into El Chapo and then you're into like Ozarks and then before you know it,
Starting point is 01:12:16 you're like talking about this over Christmas and your mom's like, are you the drug? Are you doing drugs? What's up? Did you like Ozark? Oh, I loved Ozark.
Starting point is 01:12:24 I can't wait. Season two, please. Hurry up. I got bored the last few episodes. Oh, Oh, I loved Ozark. I can't wait. Season two, please. Hurry up. I got bored the last few episodes. Oh, man. I loved it. I don't know why. I loved it.
Starting point is 01:12:30 The last few episodes were great because the characters were transforming so much. The roles were changing. I was like, oh, I can't wait. Have you watched Peaky Blinders? No, I tried. That's the one Netflix thing people told me to watch it. Wells is all about some peaky blinders. And I cannot get hooked on it.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Maybe I was just incapacitated when I started it, and I couldn't just cognitively stay with it, but I couldn't get hooked on it. Do you know when Winter Games is going to air? I've heard February 13th. Okay. The day before Valentine's Day? That makes sense.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Galentine's Day. Is it going to be a Monday, Tuesday thing? I believe so, yeah. So Monday will be Bachelor. Tuesday will follow up with Winter Games. Oh, really? So one episode a week. It could be on a Thursday, but if there's only four episodes,
Starting point is 01:13:12 it's not going to be that short of a thing. I think it's going to be a weekly thing. I thought the whole thing was supposed to compete with the Olympics. Well, that was the inspiration for it, but maybe the hook of initial ratings and whatnot because there's a higher level of people watching TV in general during the Olympics,
Starting point is 01:13:28 I feel like. But I don't think they're going to stick to that. I don't think it'll stay that way because, I mean, there's no binding reason for them to change it. And I don't know
Starting point is 01:13:36 how the programming works. I'm sure that's weird, too, because Olympics is only for two weeks. So on that network, which I don't even know what that is, CBS, or who has their...
Starting point is 01:13:43 NBC. NBC has Olympics, that's right. So on that network, they've don't even know what that is, CBS or who has their- NBC. NBC has Olympics, that's right. So on that network, they've got this big break in programming, and then they go back to their normal programming. So then ABC, I don't know how the seasons work, you know? Yeah. So anyway, I don't know what else is on there in prime time of Tuesdays and Thursdays. Well, that would make sense why they were saying it was only four episodes.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Modern Family, probably. Modern Family, the Parathons, probably. Those are great, too. Yeah. I love those Wells. That's happening. That is probably. Those are great too. Yeah. I love those wells. That is well. I do too.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Sober January. Is anyone doing that? No. Oh fuck. Not at all. Me neither. But like that shit should be you all the time. You should always be
Starting point is 01:14:18 trying to be a little bit better than you were you know. But like I like the New Year's resolutions of like okay I'm going to do this one fucking cool thing.
Starting point is 01:14:24 This one thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, we gotta cut this off because I gotta actually do my radio show for this. You do?
Starting point is 01:14:31 Yeah. What have you been doing all day? I did my other radio show beforehand. Somebody asked me what radio show you're on and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:14:36 I don't know, he has like eight. Yeah, there's a lot of them. Yeah, well. All right, Luke,
Starting point is 01:14:40 thanks for being on the show, man. Yeah, thank y'all for having me in. That was fun. I'm excited to watch you on TV. I know. Here we go again.
Starting point is 01:14:44 I really am excited to see. Do you think, I'll just be honest with you, because I think the first time around, you put up a wall for a lot of people. Yeah, except JoJo. Except for JoJo. Except the one person you were supposed to take it down for. Yeah, that was kind of my thing. I was trying not to be distracted.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Totally. You did a really good job of it. Did you do the same thing this time? Or you would like... No. Because outside of it, you became so much warmer to me. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:15:12 Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. But that's how it should be. He's competing against you guys for this one girl. That was like my strategy in the show. No one was competing against me in that. Well, that's true. Nobody was.
Starting point is 01:15:21 But I've always thought it's so messed up how all these girls become besties because they're all dating your dude. That's weird. Yeah, the play is to be cordial with everybody, but you're there for the girl. That's right. I like your game. It's a tough call. It's a tough call.
Starting point is 01:15:34 But for this type of format, which I haven't been in, it was Paradise for You, but this format where it's everybody in the same location basically and it's like co-ed, you're all intermingling all the time. Yeah, it's so much more relaxed and easy to just be open to everybody so there were some great relationships that built out of it guys girls just everybody that's why i like this format better yeah there's not so much pressure and everybody's just waiting on the one mystery person to come around and take them on a date or not you know yeah it's like there's more options more opportunities yeah it's more natural you know so um no 100 man i i uh i more opportunities. Yeah, it's more natural, you know? So, no, 100%, man.
Starting point is 01:16:05 I don't know. I think it's going to air that this is part of one of the most favorite foreign girls. We did a couple of cooking segments together in the kitchen. Oh, that sounds fun. And those are going to be... I think they're going to be really hilarious. I sucked at it as equally as she did. That's great.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Okay. All right, I'm excited. Awesome sucked at it as equally as she did. That's great. Okay. All right, I'm excited. Awesome. Good stuff. Thank y'all. Yeah, thanks for being on the show. Love you guys. Okay.
Starting point is 01:16:31 See you soon. Bye. Bye. This podcast has been brought to you by Podcast Nation.

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