Your Happy Hour - A Renewed Sense of Style

Episode Date: December 20, 2024

Welcome back to Your Happy Hour with Friday Feels!This week we dive into the world of conditioning through the lens of fashion and self-expression as we welcomed Tonya Lehtinen, founder of VogueXchang...e, and understand more about her unique approach to foster sustainability, social change and community engagement in Malta.How are you defining yourself through what you choose or choose not to wear? Perhaps fashion has or can be that tool for transformation in your life…? Dive in with us to find out!Friday Feels is all about having those honest conversations, the power of community for personal growth and taking those actionable steps towards being our authentic selves.Thanks for tuning in! Keep it raw and real out there xYHH is produced by swartkat.co via the awesome tech platform: riverside.fm

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's the Friday Feels and we're back with your first sip of the weekend. You're now tuned in to this week's episode of Your Happy Hour. I'm your host Nicole Carmine and it's amazing to have you here. Joining me this week as we uncover the truths about being a human and a working professional. What are you up to this Friday? Well, whatever it is, this moment is just for you. We're continuing our chat around reinventing your conditioning and what that means to all of us.
Starting point is 00:00:49 And along my journeys of travels in the last two years, I had reached out to quite a lot of people on apps like Workaway, which is this amazing platform where you get to travel through the world, connect with people that are on there, stay with them, learn about their life. And so through Workaway, I met this wonderful woman called Tanya Lettenen, who we're chatting to today. And very, very welcome to the Friday Feels podcast, Tanya. I know that you are living in Malta, which is one of the places I really wanted to go and see and I have yet to be.
Starting point is 00:01:26 But you also kind of live between Malta and Cape Town. So we share that South African root. Yeah, just really happy to have you on here today. So very big welcome. Thank you. And I know that you're also a founder of a very interesting company called Vogue Exchange. a founder of a very interesting company called Vogue Exchange and I was looking at your Instagram and you say that you're creating social mobility, innovating and having fun with upcycling. So that sounds really interesting to me. I know you've walked an interesting journey so maybe you can
Starting point is 00:01:59 just tell us a little bit about yourself, your journey, and what this topic of reinventing your conditioning means to you. Well, I've been here for about almost five and a half years. And so I think that I'm pretty settled here. This is an island with little rocks, so I do miss the green in Cape Town. Yeah, so I've been quite busy here. I started a little vintage shop called Vogue Exchange and really that was the beginning of my journey towards like upcycling and that kind of thing. I have no background in fashion and my background is in graphics but I realized that there was quite a lot of
Starting point is 00:02:46 stigmas around fashion and so i set up this little thing and it's become a little my my mouthpiece to talk about sustainability and circularity and then little offshoots have come of that so i do workshopping um with migrants, teaching them some soft skills, sewing skills. As I said, I'm not a skilled designer, but we make things and it's part of the process for them, the creative process. It's quite healing. It's meditative. And then also, obviously, with upcycling, it's a lot of problem solving. It's a lot of problem solving.
Starting point is 00:03:24 And then they get to practice their English and also do a fashion show, an upcycling fashion show with a friend of mine, Sarah Portelli. And we're hoping to grow that into a green sort of event on the island. And we've used that as well to really integrate people because we use people from all walks of life. Very few professional models it's just friends family people who walk in the shop people from the um the migrants from the from the workshops and yeah kind of really trying to get this idea about slowing down fashion
Starting point is 00:03:58 and um and it's interesting because I made a collection twice and when you start thinking about what you really love and what you really love to wear and slowing down fashion, people come in a very different way when they're interested in your item. Something about it inspires them. It's something, a conversation that inspires them
Starting point is 00:04:24 or a look that inspires them that's resonating with something inside themselves. So I really, I love it when I see people which have been styled by small designers or crafters and they found things and they put it together and they really are wearing a conversation about themselves. Oh, wow. I really love that.
Starting point is 00:04:47 It's so true. And I've kind of come to realize that across my journey as well, how much what you wear is such an expression of yourself out in the world. I mean, as humans, we only have certain tools to be able to show the world how we feel inside and kind of who we are and express that and fashion is one of those so I just love how you incorporate and community into that and and why Malta I'm just curious so how did this how did you end up there and doing this uh just an odd chain of events uh a friend of mine had moved here and a friend of mine was sailing the Middle Sea. And then I got a small job in the Biennale, an art Biennale here, because I worked on the back end of the art world in South Africa. And yeah, and I accidentally bought a house and stayed.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I love that. I accidentally bought a house. As you do, as you do. But when you were talking about that we have so little, if you think about, you know, men's suits are not so much used like they used to, but still if you see somebody in a suit, you think they're a lawyer or a banker doctors obviously have their their outfits you know like you have work uniforms which will also tell you something about yourself and then you have school uniforms that would tell
Starting point is 00:06:15 obviously where you came from which school you were you know it we have all these uniforms and we are quite conditioned to uniforms and especially in the fast fashion industry. We have trend forecasters which are, you know, using data and analysing what the trend is going to be in two years time. We have people using information to literally tell us who we're going to be. And I think that clothing is a very big part of your identity you know if you're a punk rocker you can address a certain way if you're a hippie you can address a certain way tells you something tells other people something about who you are but when we buy into this fast fashion it literally eliminates that it snuffs all of that creativity and individuality yeah that's really true i've never really i'm also quite new to exploring fashion in my own way but i've never really
Starting point is 00:07:13 thought about fast and slow fashion so it's really intriguing for me to hear how you explain it and i like the idea of slowing down fashion and if that means breaking stereotypes and coming up with new innovative ways for us to show our authentic way ourselves in the world, I think that's really amazing. And so do you find that when you work with people in community where you are now that there are certain kind of moulds that get broken or that are reinvented in some way through the fashion and creation? I think that Malta has still got a long way to go with people using fashion to express themselves and that's quite conservative.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And being part of the, belonging to the Commonwealth, they had the school uniform, which sets people up in a very young age to sort of be in like in in a uniform and and not to break the standing convention. And I mean, we all know, like even if we were you come from south africa we had uniforms um and even in in that uh kind of small circle you know if your uniform was too old or tatty you were teased you know so so we are really um especially here like it with with a new flood of secondhand clothes coming mark secondhand clothing shops coming up. And there's like quite a lot of drive to individuality, but, but still the average person here is quite conservative. And so they will buy into the fast fashion.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I know because at the end of every season, I get a certain kind of clothes, or I know that that was from that season and it's just you know but uh here is slowly slowly but I think one of the communities which is making some moves is the lgbt plus community you know they they a lot of them are are willing to be a little bit um out of the box yeah so they they are making some moves and, and yeah, generally there's a lot more makers, maker, maker space. So yeah, there is a shift towards people being willing to step out of the, the, the box and, you know, start telling their story through their clothing. I love that. Yeah. And I, and I know what you mean with South Africa. It's like,
Starting point is 00:09:44 when you born in places where to have the school uniform and, you know, it's kind of convenient. Actually, I was thinking about it recently as I was watching someone walk to school here in France. And I was like, oh, it was so convenient. You just kind of put on the same uniform every morning. You don't have to think about it. But at the same time, you don't really go through that young expression phase in that way. So I think it's quite important in a way to actually find your own expression when you're young, even if it's then wearing something different to school or figuring out what that is and making time for that in your own way.
Starting point is 00:10:20 But I find that really interesting. And so have you found quite big differences from Malta and Cape Town? Cape Town is quite a fashion hub in its own way and maybe it's still kind of exploring that I mean I live in Paris so it's a little bit different there's a lot of fashion and beauty around here but you know have you found it being different between like Europe and South Africa or other places you've traveled? I think specifically Cape Town is its own little planet and Capetonians have a great way of dressing down. That's true. Yeah, it's kind of a very chic surface style.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I don't know. Obviously, there's different pockets of people, but generally you would know if someone came from Cape Town they've got a kind of easy casual style but we wanted to just talk a little bit about um kind of reinventing yourself I think that reinventing your conditioning and I think that here in Malta I see a big shift like when I first came pretty much every young boy would wear Tommy Hilfiger um that was it and and I had sometimes young people coming here and telling me that you know the bullying is quite um difficult you know, the bullying is quite difficult, you know, if you don't have the right stuff or the new stuff, you know, trying to fit into that convention. But more and more, there's a kind of
Starting point is 00:11:54 global pressure to more conscious choices, especially in fashion. So people are rethinking and then of course, secondhand clothing is just like exploded so it is become a trend and people are then starting to explore that and some of the comments I get from the young people is is is the the freedom they experience when they drop that like that bubble like the the tommy the tommy look and um they are able to it's just a freedom and the pressure without the pressure and that i think is is really your focus becomes less about what other people are thinking about yourself and yeah more about what you thinking about yourself how you about what you're thinking about yourself, how you feel, your, obviously, comfort.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And, I mean, you don't have to specifically be way out of, you know, way out or unusual or something. But still, it's just more suitable to, more aligned to what you are feeling inside and and and want to show the world and i think that clothing is really a great way to let's just call it fake it till you make it so if you want to make some changes um it's it's such an easy way to kind of support your, your, your change. So if I, you know, there's a lot of work which goes into, into making changes, it's trending all over TikTok, people are trying to change their face and what's it called, there's called glow ups. I'm not all into the trend. Me neither. They, the young men are changing their jawline, you know, but you look and you say, oh, wow, they've reinvented themselves. But there's a lot of work which goes into that.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You know, you have to train, you have to eat well, you have to sleep, you know, but adding a uniform, well, we all know when we were young or even now, like if you go to a dress-up party and you go up as a pirate, you kind of got the pirate stance and and you go up as a pirate, you kind of got the pirate stance and you're going to, you know, rah, rah, you know. So clothing can be a costume which can really support change, I think, because you a little bit can hide behind it and then like experience what other people, how other people see you.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And in that way, you can step forward into it yourself. That's kind of how I see it. Yeah, I think that's such an amazing also kind of piece of advice for people out there. And I felt that a lot too as I've kind of gone through my own transitions and transformations. as I've kind of gone through my own transitions and transformations, clothing has really supported that a lot because sometimes you're quite hidden from the world in your own way and we're all kind of going through those journeys. And I think everyone that's kind of listening out there,
Starting point is 00:14:58 you might feel the same. You might feel that you don't know how to kind of quantum leap into where you want to be. But it is really nice when you can use almost like our human tools that we have and these things like clothing. So, Tanya, did you see yourself doing this 10 years ago? Did you know you're going to be in this journey? I mean, you were working at something different.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I had absolutely no idea. you were working at something different but i had absolutely no idea i kind of had hoped to move into the sort of art world so this was that was just a i started off with doing some little pop-ups some swaps and then i saw a need or a niche and I just just like really grew from there that's amazing oh it's kind of testament to saying yes to the nudges from the universe in the moment which is amazing and I feel like even though maybe art means something different to you I think fashion is art um and especially in the way that you express explaining it and how people are expressing themselves is almost like art pieces in the world. So you probably found yourself back to art
Starting point is 00:16:10 in quite a unique way, which is really beautiful. Yeah, well, I think if you see on the runways nowadays, it just seems to be merging together. People are going on the runway with, I don't know, aquariums, chairs, you know, like it's becoming quite a, like I think art and fashion are kind of merging in a big way. Yeah, they are. And it's quite interesting for me to see how all these industries come together. I mean, you have a lot of like big fashion industries supporting motorsport or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:16:45 But people are kind of yearning for that expression, that beauty, that fashion is such a big part of out in the world. And I am very intrigued by this idea of thrifting, which I only really discovered in New York when I was trying to sell clothes and get rid of bags as I was traveling and I discovered that you know something you you pay for an item you know dearly and then when you want to go and thrift it you really don't get so much back for it so that that is quite an interesting the idea of upcycling the idea of of being able to have that value be back into the system through thrifting is quite an interesting concept to me do you find people i mean it's on the uptake but what are what is the resistance to people kind of doing more of that upcycling upcycling or or second hand yeah actually maybe what is the difference upcycling is essentially taking end-of-life items and reinventing them usually
Starting point is 00:17:49 into something of the same quality or of a better quality so maybe jeans which have got some holes or stains on you might want to cut them up they They don't necessarily have to. Some people just take redundant jeans and then you take them and you could make a bag. So you're taking or cut buttons off and make a button jackets. You know, it's basically taking already existing items. And the great thing about upcycling is that it uses no or very little fossil fuels.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Like in the fashion industry, all the clothing is the pollution, the fashion, sorry, the fossil fuels from textile, making new textiles and the dyes, all of those kind of things. That whole process is eliminated. So you're using existing products. So that's upcycling. Recycling is generally just when you've taken the material and you break it down and you make a new material from it. So upcycling is, it takes a lot of ingenuity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:59 And then of course, reuse is just reusing resale I'm really glad we delved into the difference between all of them because I think a lot of people don't even think about the option of upcycling like we're doing it I think a lot of people will go thrift or reuse, try and get some value
Starting point is 00:19:20 back but in a way there's something really beautiful about taking something and then making something else out of that i think the more things like ai are coming back into our world coming into our world technology is kind of always giving us some new challenges to deal with but people are going to turn towards creativity making things that are that we can with our hands, being human. What does being human look like in a creative way? And I think what you're doing is really very much part of that. You know, how can you take something and reinvent it
Starting point is 00:19:55 and create something new in the world, you know, which really us only humans can come up with imaginative things like that. There's a huge upsurge of creatives taking all kinds of waste material and making things out of it. Beautiful jackets from towels, blankets, tablecloths, plastic bags, bottle tops. I mean, it's really amazing what people, like the handbags which people are making from the most random things.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I think I love it. I absolutely love it. Yeah, I can hear. You've got so much passion for it and I'm really excited to learn more about this. I feel like I've really only tipped my toe into this ocean. I'll also have to get my sewing skills up to scratch because I really am quite behind in that way.
Starting point is 00:20:52 I think a lot of us these days, we're so good at typing and texting, but we actually have forgotten about those skills that seem so daunting. Do you find people are easily learning that when you when you work well i i don't have any training i think that for me trying to understand the machines has really been the thing and like once you got some kind of um familiar or friendship with your machine then you can like make up the rest obviously i will never become a tailor or make beautiful suits and things like um corsets and stuff do take some training and skills but you could always upcycle an existing one you know so that would that's more my take
Starting point is 00:21:42 but a lot of a lot of people people are starting to go into crafts. I see men knitting and crocheting, and sewing machines are becoming really popular. People love to make things. And I always say, like, some people say, oh, I'd really love to, but I can't. I don't know how. But I just say, remember when we were six?
Starting point is 00:22:04 Nothing seemed to be a problem you know you needed a house you had some friends over bang bang bang some sheets and towels and the next thing you know you've got a house or or you wanted whatever you wanted you could just create yourself when you were six or eight you know you needed something off to the room some scissors some tape some crayons the next thing you you've got what you want but then we forget how to how to play and how to we get insecure that people might think you know it's not good but it's just to start and it's amazing how quickly you learn from your mistakes and get more and more inventive.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, that's true. We kind of forget how to be children, and yet we kind of remain children at heart, I think. So it's really just tapping back into that kind of courage to try different things and not care if if you fail I think we've become such a perfectionist society and maybe that's breaking down a bit again now I kind of see that that trend of you know there's no such thing as perfection coming through but I think you're
Starting point is 00:23:17 really inspiring people to to delve into that space and and you know not care so much about what anyone else is thinking, which is such a beautiful thing. And I know, I'm sure your journey hasn't been easy in your own, you know, being able to speak about it now today and the things that you're doing. But what do you feel has been like the biggest challenge you've walked through? And maybe what was the best advice you had during that time that you can share with everyone for me personally I do everything myself I'm not very good at asking for help that's that's the one thing and and also sometimes I I jump ahead of myself I just go for it and that you, could lead to failure.
Starting point is 00:24:07 And it's also sometimes the hard way because you have to create as you go along and make mistakes and then backtrack. But I think that the biggest take for me is and what I say to is, if you don't start, that's, I mean, you really just have to start. And there's this amazing book called Atomic Habits by James Clear. Have you read it? I haven't, but it's also been recommended before, so I definitely have to. The book is really about like making small little changes. You just have to make little changes and they accumulate over time. So instead of waking up one morning and like reinventing yourself, it's little and consistent changes.
Starting point is 00:24:57 So wake up five minutes earlier, just five, and there are these little changes and you can like over time you will literally shift into that because the accumulation little changes and you add another little change and you add another little change and it's um yeah very very powerful book i definitely have to add it to I definitely have to add it to the list that I have for 2025 Creating anything or doing anything is really a commitment Like you just have to decide to do it And it's tough You know, if you want to like change your physical thing
Starting point is 00:25:42 You have to start going to gym You don't want to wake up at five o'clock and when it's cold and rainy you know so these everything I think just takes a lot of commitment and and I was speaking to a young girl she had these dreams and and I said just just do them said like I think that people are so afraid of failing but I think they're also afraid of succeeding yeah you know the thing is that if you you say you want to do little art classes for kids and that's great you do a few and you know but if you succeed you're gonna need to get a bigger space and rent a bigger space and take a three-year lease and buy more crayons and get
Starting point is 00:26:25 more tables and do more advertising and employ somebody and you know that's quite terrifying because that's commitment yeah yeah it's true i i can so resonate with that because i i think i've i read about that in my psychology studies and i think victor frankl spoke about this like people don't make it because they're so scared of their own power and their own success actually instead of the opposite but we end up sort of self-sabotaging on the way to do that because it is it's it's hard work and I think sometimes we look at people who are successful and you think oh that looks great like they've just got that, you know, by the blink of an eye.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And that's really not true. It's a lot of admin and a lot of work that you have to put in. But the reward is so amazing. And, you know, you can feel that in what you've created now, which is great. And so what is kind of like your, let's call it habit stacking for the next year what is in a year from now where do you kind of see yourself and your business that's an interesting question because um this vogue exchange is actually owned by my son and um i'm a co-founder and let's just say he's a sleeping partner but he works in the
Starting point is 00:27:48 NGO world and so he does give me a lot of good advice and I sound quite a lot of stuff of him he asked me the same like what do you what do you see Vogue Exchange, what do you want to have from Vogue Exchange in the next five years? And I was like, well, it's not money because I haven't been chasing the money. If I had have, I would have had a very different structure, probably importing a lot of the things that I don't really agree with ethically. I would have just done it differently if I was pushing for the money. But what I really have been working towards is promoting the idea and the concept about sustainability and consciousness and conscious thinking and using the shop as a platform to educate people about fast fashion and so forth. And through that, obviously, I've learned a lot myself.
Starting point is 00:28:46 It's been a huge learning curve. And the more I've delved into how the fast fashion industry operates and how destructive it is socially, planetary, just in every way, the more it's driven me down that path so that's really where my passion is and in five years time I would like my dream is to be more a spokesperson and less like doing like the real physical it's it's I'm getting quite old for that and also there's a lot of young people which are super trendy which I'm obviously not anymore you know it's it takes a lot of work to keep up with all
Starting point is 00:29:31 the new trends and things but I really want to move down that that road to get into advocating looking at for solutions you know being more yeah, on that front and finding a way to use the shop for that kind of purpose as well. I've been thinking and one of my visions is that the shop could be used as a kind of an internship, bit of a crazy internship. It's a team of three, which come for three months and they basically get a business with the workshop because I have a workshop space here. So it's kind of somebody who's interested in the creative space. So a team, which is creative, business orientated and probably marketing. And they get three months in the shop and they have to do everything and pay all the bills. And
Starting point is 00:30:21 if they're lucky, they pay themselves themselves but internships are really hard to find good internships and um and especially if people are not well connected it's much harder for for um people from lower um social um echelons i mean malta is also a fun place to be and it's not like london the pressure is not going to be like london goes oh it's not like London. The pressure is not going to be like London. Gozo is a tiny little island, so you have to deal with a lot less. But yeah, so I just, that kind of thing, I would like to use the shop for good stuff. I really love how you're seeing it as like a springboard for connection and empowerment and inspiration
Starting point is 00:31:02 and all of that. I think it's a great idea. Can I sign up for an internship? Get a crazy designer friend or upcycler and somebody who loves social media and come for three months, see what you can do. Yeah, I think that's awesome. And the fact that you were willing to open your doors like that to people and keen to really uplift people in their journeys. It's just really
Starting point is 00:31:27 inspiring. So thank you for sharing all of that and really just your journey to this point. I can't wait to come and visit in Malta very soon. I know I keep saying I'm going to come. So hopefully in 2025. And maybe on this note, it's a good point to give a little shout out. So every week we do this thing where we talk about the people, places and spaces that have inspired. And this week, and I think it's quite fitting, I wanted to give a shout out to The Bridge, a home for children, which I do happen to be very privileged to be part of. Like you say, a sleeping partner. And it's really my beautiful friend leticia galva who's french but living in south africa in cape town uh who started this and it
Starting point is 00:32:11 was her dream she ended up selling her house in france to buy this property in cape town and she's looking after fostering these beautiful kids normally about four to eight of them and she built a workshop space. So she's giving people a space to come and facilitate. So just a big shout out to her today on this topic of NGOs and upliftment and reinventing, I think, all these kids that she looks after. She's giving them such an amazing springboard and platform. Yeah, I just really wanted to give her a shout out today.
Starting point is 00:32:47 With all the French love, it's crazy that we met in Cape Town and you're living in Cape Town and I'm living in Paris now. That sounds really amazing. I'd love you to share the link. I will. I will definitely. So, yeah, for everyone else also listening out there, we'll definitely share all the socials. And before we do kind of end off, I wanted to take a moment to do the gems of the week.
Starting point is 00:33:11 So this is something we do around the things that we've really found as uplifting, maybe inspiring or that you could have gratitude for. So I'll start and then can you just give you an idea of what it's like and you can share if you want. So this week was really for me and I think it's quite interesting because you also mentioned it. It was really about having gratitude for the people in my life that make living globally possible. I had some work that needed
Starting point is 00:33:44 to be done in my house in Cape Town, and it's quite hard to navigate handy workers and renovations from afar. So I was really grateful for my dad for jumping in this week and making some help possible in my home. And I also realized how hard it was before for me to ask for help like that. Sometimes we can be so proud and not want to accept help. It's one thing asking, and then it's another thing being open to receiving, I think.
Starting point is 00:34:16 So that was really kind of a moment for me where I realized, okay, I've learned how to ask for help now and to be able to receive it and just have gratitude for it. So, yeah, that was really a gem for me this week. How about for you? This week has been a pretty full-on week. We had a small exhibition. I worked with the Migrant Women's Association Malta.
Starting point is 00:34:41 I'm facilitating some work on them on the design, like, aspects of some products they're developing. And the project is adding skills, developing skills. And we use, obviously, all recycled materials to empower the women and to bring the community together, give them some social capital. There were just such lovely people which came, and it was the two aspects, the pride of the ladies which were making those items, like how proud they were of that. And then like the people which came to see how much they respected
Starting point is 00:35:31 and, you know, appreciated those handcrafts. So, yeah, it was just really a really great day just to, and all of the food, well, that that was just amazing most of the women come from countries in north africa um so uh yes really amazing food and just such a good vibe oh that's amazing it sounds so wholesome and i wanted to quickly give a quick update just to say also we're celebrating this week that we've soared past the 2,500 download mark. So thank you to everyone listening out there, wherever you are in the world. Thank you for tuning in and we're sending all the feels to everyone out there. And also just a big thank you to our partner in podcasting crime, Riverside FM, who have also now added quite a lot of interesting features for the Christmas season.
Starting point is 00:36:32 So if you're into podcasting and content creation, check them out. And they have given us very kindly some discount for our audience. So do stay tuned on the socials for that and connect with us on where to find some of that discount and get involved. So very, very lastly, but not leastly, I know you mentioned the book before, Tanya, but we've added something really cool to our mix. And that is, what is in your stack?
Starting point is 00:37:01 It's our reading list. It can be anything from a quote to words to a book that you appreciated or that really meant a lot to you. So can you maybe share with us what is in your stack at the moment? My stack is busy with transcendental meditation. um um i i don't need to think what's in my stack because i jump from book to book and then i've got i've got a million projects half like in this needs sewing that needs completing i've got um but let me think. Michael Singer is one of the things that I'm busy with at the moment.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Some meditation. Yeah, I think that Atomic Habits would be a good start for somebody. And if I had to, it's really, for me, I'm focusing on, like, letting it go. Let it just go through me and not attach a whole, you know, just let it go. I love that. I love that. I've listened to one of Michael Singer's things before, and I know he's written a book that I think is pretty powerful but I forget the name of it now. It is, what is it? It'll come to me. We can find the title and
Starting point is 00:38:35 share it on the socials and all that but check out Michael Singer. I think he is really an amazing spokesperson for change and transformation in such a beautiful way. And I know he's also got a really weird, weirdly wonderful way of explaining things that just makes it seem so simple, right? So that's an amazing recommendation. Thank you so much. Yeah, and just thank you for coming to share with us today and being your raw, real and authentic self. I think that's really such an inspiration to me
Starting point is 00:39:08 and I know for everyone out there who will be listening. Where can everyone find you? What is the best way to connect with you? Take a trip to a weekend, get away to Malta. A lot of people come just to escape the rain from Europe. January is not the best, but in the spring it's really amazing and green. But if anybody has ideas, they want to do some collabs or they can either find me on the social media.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I think that my number is on Facebook. You can WhatsApp me. Yeah. Amazing. Thank can WhatsApp me. Yeah. Amazing. Thank you so much. Thanks for coming to share with us. And yeah, just wishing you the most success with all the ventures. And I'm very excited to come and sew some things, reinvent some things.
Starting point is 00:39:59 And I'll bring all the clothing that I thought I might give away and we can create some cool stuff. So I'd love to meet you in person. And yeah, and it's just been really, I really love talking to lovely young people like you, with your sort of open and kind view on the world. And yeah, thank you for having me. It's really great great thank you thank you so much and yeah we'll hopefully see you very very soon if you haven't just yet follow
Starting point is 00:40:32 Friday Feels on Instagram Facebook TikTok and LinkedIn you can share with us all your feels this week by tagging us at fridayfeels.co and you can also find the website at that handle and now as you ease into this weekend take a moment celebrate who you've become what you've overcome and what is yet to come as you do the crazy and cool things that you do as the authentic you. You know the truth about life and work is that it's hard but the beauty is this global working experience that you're in, well we earn it together. So keep connecting, empowering and inspiring this week and of course keep it raw and real. Until next time.

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