Your Happy Hour - In Your Back Yard
Episode Date: March 14, 2025Welcome back to Your Happy Hour with Friday Feels!This week, we take our first sip of the weekend with Yohann Bruny - serial entrepreneur, natural wine enthusiast and founder of the bar and restaurant... - Yard Paris. We delve in and discover the idea behind promoting affordable, accessible and sustainable practices in the pleasures of our world, staying open-minded in achieving success, the significance of setting goals while embracing uncertainty and how playing the game of life is truly about letting go and enjoying the small moments of life.Have you tried some natural wine?Friday Feels is all about having those honest conversations, the power of community for personal growth and taking those actionable steps towards being our authentic selves.Thanks for tuning in! Keep it raw and real out there xYHH is produced by swartkat.co - captured via riverside.fm & shared via rss.com.
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It's the Friday feels and we're back with your first sip of the weekend.
You're now tuned in to this week's episode of your happy hour.
I'm your host Nicole Carmine and it's amazing to have you here joining me this week as we
uncover the truths about being a human and a working professional.
What are you up to this Friday?
Well whatever it is, this moment is just for you.
A very big welcome to you all from very sunny South Africa.
We are into week three of our theme naturally nourished.
And this month we've been talking about how we kind of look after ourselves
and how we do this naturally.
So we've taken some turns around the world of tea, around the world of sound healing.
turns around the world of tea, around the world of sound healing and we're tapping into what it is to be a vibrational being and being natural humans but also working professionals.
And I thought that while we're talking about all of this, let's get a little bit grounded
and take ourselves into the wondrous things that our earthly soil can give us.
And of course I am talking about the delicious drink of wine.
And so here's the thing.
Wine, as we know it, isn't as natural as we may think it to be the wine that we
buy in the store, and it's not always this goodness that just comes straight from the
earth. So in fact, there is a lot of processing power that goes into creating
fine art, winemaking, and we're very super appreciative of processing power that goes into creating fine art winemaking.
And we're very super appreciative of all of that. But on this quest of delving into being more nourished naturally,
I thought we'll take a little peek into something I've discovered
in my journey of travels here in France or there in France rather.
And that is something called natural wine.
So today to unpack this topic a little bit more
with me is entrepreneur Joanne Bruni, a founder of a company called Culinaire, calories, I hope I'm
saying this correct, you can help me, and a very passionate individual about the development and
also distribution of chemical-free food products and of course this includes clean and additive free wine.
So a very big welcome to the Friday Field Space
and the Your Happy Hour podcast, Johan.
Really happy to be there.
It's been a long time and let's speak about this
really passionating, passionating,
but really important subject that is natural wine.
It's a really good example of what we can try to do in enjoying the ecological transition.
Yeah, it is a really important topic and I got to know you because I've had the pleasure
of wining and dining at your restaurant, Yard, in Paris.
To taste this thing called natural wine, I'm still learning a lot about your industry.
So do you want to maybe just give us a little bit about how did you stumble into natural
wine?
Did you always have a passion for it?
How did you end up creating what you have at the moment?
Yeah, really not.
I'm really not a wine guy first. I'm more an entrepreneur in different
kind of subjects, always with an ecological point of view. What we try to do is to make
stuff move in a subject we cross. Most of the time we associate with people and try
to develop the stuff and us we are more on the business part, accounting, financing,
strategy stuff. But I crossed this possibilities to enjoy and develop natural wine, something who really became an impetus
stuff in my life. But first I was really not into natural wine, even into wine. The story
is funny when before I discovered natural wine, I used to think that I didn't like wine. In fact, it's just that I didn't
cross the wine I liked, in fact. And at 22, 23 years old, with life, developing business
and stuff like that, we met some people who made us try natural wine and I discovered
that it was something that I really liked.
But at the beginning, the really beginning, I was not into gastronomical stuff.
So a big thank you to this project to make me discover the pleasure of the food, the the extremely complexity of what can be eaten.
And after you're getting a little bit interested in how you produce that,
what kind of experience you can have with the gastronomy stuff.
And yeah, it's really cool.
So to give information to people who maybe would not know natural wine, I can give a really
too easy definition of natural wine.
You get three different kinds of wine.
The first is what we can call conventional wine.
It means chemicals in the ground to make grow the grapes and chemicals in the juice.
You got bio wine, so bio grapes and chemicals in the juice. You got bio wine, so bio grapes and chemicals in the juice.
And you got natural wine, it was a step after.
No chemical in the grape, no chemical in juice.
And it's first what interests us.
It's not so often that you can find in the big challenge that we have to initiate and
continue our more eco-friendly journey in our society, that you find something that but can be really using a lot of chemicals like Lunchon oil and find the solution to
stop doing that.
It's not easy on a lot of different ways and I think we'll discuss about it in the hour
coming but sometimes you got really a solution.
It needs to be complex, it needs to be marketing good.
And it's funny, but what we try to do is to bring people product solution that are not only based on the, it's ecological.
solutions that are not only based on the ecological.
If you see what I mean, nobody wants to buy ecological wine.
If it's not in their taste, if it's not good as they want and stuff like that.
What is fun with the,
I used to be in electricity business and that what is really
simple in a solar panel business because we have
a company who build and sell solar panel electricity.
In electricity you don't have different kind of quality if you see what I mean.
So it's really production, production at the lower price we can and the most clean way
we can and the most clean way we can.
In the wine, in the gastronomy, we never have to forget that first of all,
it's pleasure. You have to enjoy it because you can cross all the steps.
A good product made in a good condition, everybody is paid and blah blah blah. But in the end,
if the wine is not good and doesn't find its consumer, its people who enjoy it, it's a little
bit of a lack of time. And we really think that we need to find a pleasure solution for this transition,
pleasure solution for this transition because it's been a long time that we speak about we need to do better, we need to and it's too often it's under contraint.
Either it's really too expensive, either it needs to change your habits and it's good,
we need to continue that. But I think that pleasure is a more
efficient engine than contraint and then to have an obligation to it. So that's
what we try to do. Well I think you're doing a great job because the wine I
tasted was really good and obviously very clean. So I'm trying to remember the exact bottle.
There was this really big bottle that you,
the Hade was orange or no, maybe not.
Yeah, orange wine.
It's a funny story. Orange wine, yeah.
It's a wine you can find only at our place
because we are a natural wine,
first we are all natural wine distributors.
Not only that, but the topic of today is the wine.
So what we try to do is to find winemakers who do a great job
and bring this wine to make discovery to the most people we can in Paris,
but in the world too.
We sell natural wine from different countries.
We have a lot of wine from France of course
but we have wine from Spain, Italy and some area of course and we sell it around
30 countries in the world stuff like that. For the moment natural wine is a
small market but really a worldwide market so we try to develop that and
where we met at the restaurant we decided to open a
restaurant to Scholl Yard who got his little reputation in Paris and natural
wine world. We tried to develop that in 2016 because natural wine was not
especially was not as famous as today so we thought it would be good to have our place to show our wine makers, our wine, what we can do.
We can make, try people this new stuff and we never quit because it's funny to have this kind of place.
Yeah, yeah, I know it's a great spot and I know you guys have great little parties there and I really enjoyed the atmosphere.
And you're right, it's nice to be able to go and have a fresh
experience because it is different to what we know out in the world, to what people are used to
from wine and it's quite a quiet taste. You have to find what works for you which I really
appreciate it. So I'm curious though how you became involved in ecological, what was that motivation for you when you started
as an entrepreneur?
Maybe what also motivated you as an entrepreneur?
We have a lot of people that are drawn to the Friday Fields podcast that seem to be
entrepreneurs or starting their journeys.
It's always interesting to hear what was that inspiration.
How did you get going?
I think it's a family stuff.
As long as I remember, I always knew I would have been my own boss.
I think it's maybe for me related with the...
It's always complicated because you always rewrite the story as you want, but I think
it's always been linked to with the liberty
and for me to be free it's need to be able to assume the choice you make and it's complicated to assume choice when you are not responsible for all your activities maybe there is something like
that but I always knew that I wanted to yeah to to to to have my own companies and stuff like that.
So there is no, okay, I wake up one morning and this is what I'm going to do.
No, I end up feeling it's always been there.
Of course, you never really know what it means and what it takes before sending it,
but really happy to do it. I think it's the best artist but the best journey
you can choose. If it fits with you, of course. It's not made for everyone but every job is
not made for everyone so no problem with that.
Ten years ago, you always knew you'd be an entrepreneur, but
did you see yourself doing what you're doing now today?
What we always wanted to do with Maria Associates is to find people who have ideas, who have
talents and put our talents, our knowledge, who is connected with finance, finance small company and develop
small company, trying to develop small company.
And what I like with that is we can meet anyone, if you see what I mean.
We can do stuff in health care business, we can do, we do stuff in hotel, hospitality business, we are trying
to do stuff in AI, artificial intelligence, with photography, with photos.
You are really, what I wanted to do, I did a business school and the reason why I did
a business school is you, I think it's because you don't really know where you want to do, I did a business school and the reason why I did a business school is
I think it's because you don't really know where you want to work and what I like in this kind of
CAP is finance, accounting, strategy, development, marketing is a term that every company
is a term that every company needs. So it's really what I like with my job today.
Even in culinary, the same day I can pick with a chef, with a winemaker,
with a waiter, with a banker, with investors, with completely different people.
And yeah, you need to understand what they are looking for, what they want, with completely different people.
And yeah, you need to understand what they are looking for,
what they want and try to make all interest align
and make it work.
Bring people with you in your story.
And I think that I was really not into restaurant business
and stuff like that before having a restaurant.
And it's something I really like because every day is a new day, every day you meet new people.
And there is a lot of way to reach out to them and it's cool, it's pleasure.
And what I like the most in the, really in the restaurant, what I really like is sometimes you do projects, it's long-term,
it takes time to convince people and stuff like that.
What I really like in the day-to-day basis in the restaurant is you can have really concrete,
direct returns.
Sometimes you have people who come to the restaurant, they don't know about natural
wine especially.
We are trying to
really not be sommelier in the wrong way. You see what I mean? I know that sometimes
wine can be a little bit elitist and scare people. We are really not like that. The only
question who works in this industry and more in wine and this I got it from the winemaker. Whatever winemaker will
it is whatever winemaker I met the greatest who sell bottle at one thousand
euros or as a small one who try to sell more modest wine the only question they
ask you when they make you try the wine, you like it or not.
And it's cool.
It's a good start.
And depending on the level of knowledge you got in this business, we can go further.
And I think it's something that we should more develop.
Especially in France where everyone is used to, a lot of people are used to drink
wine and speak about it.
Don't forget that first you need to enjoy, or not, but discover some new stuff.
And the moment when you try to make people taste wine and see where they are in their relation with wine, with
natural wine and stuff like that and you can make them try some stuff and there
is a little flame, a little fire just open and say oh shit oh this is really
good this is really good with the moment this is really good, this is really good with the moment, this is really what I want, this is... and there is a special connection that you can find in this moment and
yeah we never will say to a guy, oh you don't like it, you don't like it, it's because you
don't know wine. Maybe he doesn't know wine but your job is to make him have a good time and
Maybe he doesn't know wine, but your job is to make him have a good time and find something that he likes.
So really try to be aware of what people want because it changes every day.
It changes every day.
If you had a really good day, maybe you're more open to crazy stuff, new stuff.
And if you don't like it, it's not a problem because it opens new doors in your head.
And you say, okay, maybe I'm not fond of that but I didn't know that
you could do this kind of product with grapes and another day you had a bad day, you want
something really straight, really that you can understand, really comfy.
So it's our job to welcome people and give them a little seed in their head to say, hey
look, we can do that in natural
wine and it's what the natural wine market is trying to do and do it more
and more since a few years that I really like we used to be or we have been used
to be maybe a little bit and it's only me saying that and don't take it like a truth. We've been maybe a little bit too
much crazy on wine, who is a good stuff because I think like me the crazy stuff
the really different kind of wine can bring people to enter. People who are not
used to drink wine say okay I thought I didn't like wine there is new taste in wine I go in it it's really cool but now since few years
winemaker can really be able to do natural wine in tastes that
conventional people can enjoy can rely on and it's really cool it's really what
I'm trying to tell you. You drink the...
The first question we always ask you when you come at the yard is
where are you with the wine?
Are you... Do you know wine?
Do you drink conventional wine?
Do you drink natural wine?
Are you in a mood where you want to discover new stuff
or are you more...
Okay, let's take time.
How much you want to put in?
And now we are really a huge range of wine
at every price for everyone.
And we like that.
We call that most of the time,
we call that transition wine.
It's when it's not your natural wine.
But if I put it on the table,
really complicated to know
that it's not conventional stuff.
So we try to speak to everyone because wine must be five a one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love that.
I love that.
And that's kind of, that's experience I had, which I appreciated as well.
And, and I think, you know, I'm in South Africa, South Africa has
a lot of beautiful wine.
I'm used to drinking wine.
I grew up with wine, but I don't often think about necessarily where the wines come from
or how it was made or the natural part of that.
I remember when I spoke to you the first time, I was like, oh, I've never really thought
about is this clean?
Is it not clean?
Is it like how is this processed?
What goes into that. I think a lot of other food products, we've started becoming aware of what is the impact
on the world when we are consuming, but maybe not so much wine and maybe that's just me.
But what have you found is the biggest difference?
I think a lot of people are probably going to listen and be like, well, what is the difference
between natural wine and normal wine in terms of processing and cleanliness? So what is
that for you? What if, yeah, I don't know if you want to share some stats or something
like that.
First, the philosophy can be really different. Of course, it's bio in the wine. There is
a lot of technical stuff and I don't want to bore people with that and maybe it's not the most important
but for example there is no, I'm not even sure I know the terms in English for technical stuff.
The grapes it's at least by a wine, most of the time you try to not use trucks or stuff like that. There is a lot of natural winemaker who use to
try to harvest by hand for a lot of reason.
But one of the reason is to not compact the ground
because when you go with big,
heavy mechanicals in your grapes kind of kill the
floor and as you can't use a lot of wine chemicals once you have
juice a lot of natural winemakers used to say that 90% of the process of giving a good wine is in your grapes.
Because the better, the more quality wine you get, naturally grounded and stuff like
that, the better would be the juice and all the point of having chemical in the wine is to
try to orientate the wine to kill the default and stuff like that.
If your grapes are really good from the beginning, normally you should not have default in your juice,
all the less. And you can become what a natural winemaker is trying to be,
is to be the last interventionist possible, to let the grapes, the ground, the juice,
become what it needs to be. Of course this is a cool story, of course they
have a lot of stuff to do, make blendings and stuff like that, you can still work on your wine, but
it's more natural stuff to say okay this year the ground gave me this. I have this juice.
You can play with the temperature of your wine place.
There is a lot of technical stuff and it can be a little bit too technical.
One for the for the consumer, something that is really cool.
Either you really have less headache and stuff like that because it's not full of products.
So your relation can be dangerous, but your relation with the party is really different
because if you drink only really natural wine the day after you can
feel that of course it's still alcohol and I'm really aware that it's still alcohol.
So I will never say that wine is good for your health or stuff like that, for your physical health, for your mental health, can of course be. But you can really
enjoy and drink with moderation. And the day after you will not be killed because you drank
two glasses of white wine and say, oh shit, I'm fucked for the day.
Yeah.
It's cool. Yeah. Well, that's really a relief to me.
I mean, thinking about being more natural and feeling more nourished and then also feeling
good the next day because I find the older I'm getting, it's definitely getting tougher
and tougher if I have a glass of wine, even just one.
And the next day I feel it.
So maybe that's just me.
But I think age does play a role in it. So it's
really good to know that there is wine out there that comes from the ground, that's natural.
And I really like the idea of leaving something be what it wants to be. I mean, it's a bit
like us as humans, where we go with the flow of life and figure out what is our way and to be able to consume things that are
natural that if we had to be left out in the wild and we're just picking fruit and natural
wine would be something that I think will be part of our diets out in the wild.
So that's really awesome to hear.
And I think it's really cool how you've walked a journey as an entrepreneur, finding your way and your own flow as well. So what I am curious
though is just on the topic of nourishment and being natural, how do
you nourish your cup? I mean being an entrepreneur is not really easy as we
were saying, it's not for everybody but what has been kind of your motivation
throughout it all? What has kept your
entrepreneurial cap full, so to speak, if that makes sense?
No, it's really the feeling of being free, of having your impact. It will challenge you in every
kind of way, every day. You have to be real, risk people, because if not they will feel that there is
something wrong. Yeah like I told you I'm not I never asked myself will I do
because it was completely sure. But yeah really feel that. I think the most
interesting stuff is getting that the future can be better in your own terms, of course.
And that you can have a really impact on that.
Or you try. You try your best.
You know that now, because when I was younger, I used to think that, yeah, we saved the world, blah, blah, blah, and stuff like
that. It's cool because you're young and completely crazy. But now it's more about bringing your
little stuff, the way you do it, and if you can do it, changing stuff in a good way. It's cool.
We really try to speak to people with a solution
in the way they're all consuming their stuff.
For example, natural wine,
if every bottle of natural wine is too expensive,
it's cool, but you're not speaking to everyone.
And what we try to do since a few years now is to augment, to grow up the volumes.
And like this you can lower the price and everyone lives better and have access to not
so expensive natural wines.
Of course for the moment we don't have bottles as competitive as you can find in a conventional wine, the two or three euros
bottle that you can find in supermarkets.
I think we will never be able to do it, but now for the cave place we can have 10 euros,
12 euros bottle, stuff like that.
And it's really cool wine. So it's something that can maybe motivate me.
We do normal stuff. We don't reinvent stuff. We take techniques of other business, but we try to
apply it on stuff we believe in. That can be better.
Yeah. It's important to find your why,
like the reason that you get up every morning and that you do the things you do. That doesn't
matter the industry really. I think that's the essence of being an entrepreneurial spirit.
Like you say, it's great what you've created that you can have any kind of idea come to
life through what you're doing and change the world in some ways.
So in a year from now, where do you see yourself and where do you see the natural wine and yard?
What can we celebrate with you as Friday feels?
We never know. That's all the point.
We never know. For example, yesterday night I just discussed for the next dinner,
we can make a new wine, we can cross new winemakers, we can connect maybe our solar panel company with
products in natural wine. It's what I really like. I really don't know where I will be in 10 years
and I really don't want to know. We will see. It's day to day. I never thought I would be there before. We still
have a lot of stuff to achieve, of course. And I hope it will never stop. It's what I
really like in this life. You don't know what will happen. And the day I will know what
will happen, I will change it. Of course, still
be open. Don't have any problem to be really convinced in what you think and what you believe
at this time because you need that to get up every morning. Still being open to listen
to people. You asked me what kind of advice and I thought about that. I
think it's never text of personal because you will cross people who are as convinced
as you in this moment and not be afraid of saying 10 minutes after, okay, I thought it
was this solution but I did wrong and now I go for that.
Start a problem as long as you're in there and in what you do and a member of my family gave me
an advice to say, okay, never make it for the money because the journey is too hard to for that.
the journey is too hard for that. If you wake up for money, if you do that for money, it will not last long because you need motivation every fucking day because it's a kind of BDS
and that's what you want. When you have responsibility at the end, you can always be a little bit alone.
You're never really alone, but at the end you need to decide where we go.
And there is no one good answer. There is plenty of answers.
And when you choose your answers, you have to convince everyone near you that this is the right way.
I know it. It's sure.
And you're never sure.
You will know in 10 years if it was the good way.
There is no good way, there is no bad way.
Yeah.
Let's go for it.
I am, what I'm kind of sure is the worst decision is not to take some.
That is true.
Really?
Go, go for it.
You will see, you will never know.
It's not because you win that you're the best.
It's not because you lose that you're shit.
This kind of stuff.
Most of the time you need to have luck.
Never forget that if you're successful it's because you had a lot of luck and lucky people
are the ones who try the most.
So go for it.
Go for it go for it still be open of what people think
what people tell you all the people younger people but you will never know
you will never know so do it more for for yourself or where you see your life
in in what you want to be involved in, whatever the reason, whatever the money you make and
stuff like that.
When you wake up, do you think you're in the good business?
Because even if your day looks like the same, I really think that's not the same to wake
up every day for a cause that you believe in.
Yeah.
Even if you do the exam as the exact same job in the cause that you don't believe in.
So find the good company, the good way to what you think can be good in the future.
I think it changed a lot on your day to, in relation to what we call, and I don't like this word, working.
I don't believe I'm working, I'm doing stuff.
When I'm at the restaurant, I'm doing some stuff.
When I go to ski, I'm doing some stuff.
When you're doing stuff, you have a limited period of time, then do your stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it's really good advice.
And I feel the same.
I think life would become quite boring if you just knew always
what was going to happen.
And it's quite nice to see the projects come to life
and have that reward.
But it's also OK if they come to life in a whole different way
than what you expected.
And sometimes the universe wants to surprise you in that, which is great.
So I think it can be daunting for some people who want to hold on to the idea of how they imagined it.
But letting that go, I found at least in the last two years has been a wonderful experience.
So I really love that. And I think that, yeah, I think if you can just find that thing like you say doing stuff you know people are always thinking
about the work-life balance but it's just life it's just life in the end of
the day you know there is no really such thing. And of course you need to have
objective gives you challenge and I want to have a more restaurant I want to
develop natural wine I want to sell to more countries I want to have more restaurants, I want to develop natural wine, I want to sell to more countries,
I want to put more seeds in a conventional winemaker to make them what we succeed to do on several projects
to make people aware that exist, try to give them the opportunities to make their own story.
So I want that, but on a personal way, you never know.
Maybe tomorrow everything will stop.
Yeah, that's life.
And do a plan, but it will never happen as you want. And don't forget that it's what is it's a funny
part it's really the funny part you do your best you try to make people believe
that you're really the man of the situation until you are the man of the
situation or not but yeah it's can be I think it's a real challenge and when
you're in the company.
To be the person who will tell, okay, we go there.
And maybe it was not a good idea, but I assume it's like that.
And it's not really, nobody's gonna die.
Not in my business.
I'm not a surgery guy or something like that.
Nobody is going to die.
As long as you try to do your best, so you can.
And you will miss a lot of stuff every day.
You will tell yourself, oh,
yeah, maybe I should have been better. Yeah.
Tomorrow is another day.
Yeah, it's true. It's true. I remember my dad once said, he's also an
entrepreneur and he said to me, you know, he said to his partner in business, if it doesn't work out,
then we just go home. We just go home, you know, and we start to try again and it's fine and that's
life and you know, it's like you said, rather try than not. So I really love that you've done that.
You're a very great inspiration for others listening that you follow in your path.
So thank you for sharing that with us.
I really, really appreciate that.
And for also introducing natural wine to the world because I think it's, we need more of
that.
We need more natural stuff, more nourishment.
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And I also wanted to quickly move into something that we've been doing,
Johanna's, called the People, Places and Spaces.
And every week we choose a person or a place or a space out in the world
to showcase that has the fields, the
Friday fields.
And this week is going to be an eSIM.
So it's called Base Network EverSIM.
And I just wanted to say thanks to them because if it wasn't for them, I wouldn't be able
to travel the way I do and efficiently buy eSIM and load data for next to nothing and
be able to be an adventurer and do my
entrepreneurial work. So thank you for what you guys bring for making it more affordable to be
a digital nomad, a global citizen and yeah it's just great impact and a great app. So
our shout out goes to be an eSIM this week. And then another little section we always do
is called our gems.
And our gems are really something that's happened
to you this week that you felt you learned something from,
something that might you have gratitude for.
So I'll share mine and you're welcome to share yours
if you want.
But this last week we had,
I hosted a divine woman and wine night at La Pomme d'Eve, a South African bar.
And it was one of those situations like you mentioned,
where you plan something in your mind and it just turns out the
way it needs to and it ended up being a very intimate, beautiful
event where it was just women. I generally always liked to include everyone,
but in celebration of International Women's Day,
we were just women.
And it was just raw and real and vulnerable and beautiful.
And so I really wanted to say thanks for those women
who participated, who came,
and it really opened my heart a lot.
And sometimes it's nice to just kind
of come together and really remember who we are as people. So that was my gem, it really was great
to connect with people in that way. What was yours? Yeah in Paris it's been good weather.
Good weather? For example, we had a really, really long winter since last year.
It was rainy, old summer and stuff like that.
It used to be something that I didn't like.
I didn't like to come from Normandy.
Normandy, it's really not hot.
I used to really not like when it's really hot.
It's really personal stuff that I'm sharing with you.
I succeed in convincing myself that sun can be good and it's enjoying this kind of little
joy.
You see what I mean?
Oh, it's a beautiful day. I will enjoy a little bit
of sun and stuff like that. Oh, I'm thirsty and I will drink. You understand what I mean?
This little step that you can do mechanically without even thinking about it, that when you are not good, of course you don't have
space in your head to do that.
Getting older can be related to that.
Okay, it's a perfect day, okay, it's a shitty day, okay, it's outside.
And yeah, enjoying moment on basic stuff.
Oh, this marmalade is, I really enjoy having this marmalade,
taking this time to enjoy small stuff.
Because in our life, if you're really like,
you're really occupied and doing a lot of stuff you
can lose yourself in making too much stuff and say okay I will go to bed
because tomorrow it's a big day we go blah blah we never stop and being really
able to still be connected with the day basis, I think it's everyday work.
Just remind, okay, this can be good.
This can be good on really basic stuff.
Really really basic stuff.
A little bit of wind that is hotter than it used to be last week. I say
oh cool, it's nice. It's really basic and a little bit common stuff but I think it's
really important to remember, okay we are not God, let's enjoy small stuff.
I think that's a really nice gem. Yeah.
Thank you for sharing that.
I think we forget about the small things.
And I know just because I've just been in Paris too,
the sunshine is very welcome.
Very, very welcome after some cold.
It was really cold and my South African heart
is still getting used to the cold weather.
But yeah, I think it's awesome to remember the little things
because in the end of the day, that's really life, I think.
You know, in the end of the day, that's what we have.
We wake up and we can appreciate nature
and be able to be able to move and all of that.
So it's awesome that you could have that as a gem for you
for the week.
And it sounds like it's your gem of every week
and every day, which is great.
I did have one more question for you
before we wrap up and that is something we've we call the stack and it's our reading list. It's
just maybe you've read a book in your life that really changed you or you want to read that's been
on your pile for a while and you just haven't got there. Anything that you can recommend? What is in your stack is the question. It can be French, that's also okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It can be complicated to explain.
No, I think it's something that gave me by my grandfather, it's called Le Grand Voyage,
with Seu George Sans Prince. It can be a little bit sad, but it's a story about a Jew during the war who goes in the train in really a sad situation and stuff like that.
And it can be a discussion between the oppressor and the Jew guy and it can give you really relative stuff that there is not always bad and wrong and good and healthy and good
or not it's always about where you are at what point and stuff like that so yeah I think
it joins with what I said before it's a try the most you can do it with all your heart but try the most you can to not
take what people say, do, think personally. It's because they have their
journey and they are at this point and there is 99% chance of if you got the
same journey you would be at the same point so yeah try to be really
convinced with yourself. Always asking
you questions, but yeah, don't take it. Don't take stuff personally. You have
energy and time to lose with that.
That's a great recommendation. And I'll definitely be adding that to my future
French stack when I become fluent in this language. But definitely we'll be
adding it to the website, the stack.
So thanks for that recommendation.
And whoever wants to go and navigate to the site, the link will be there to get it.
And yeah, thank you so much.
And just thank you for coming on today.
We'll share all the social links to the yard and to you and culinary is out with everyone
in the world.
And I wonder for everyone else who's listening,
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about natural wine,
about how you are kind of going with the flow in your life.
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We like hearing your messages.
And yeah, to you, Johann, thank you for joining us.
Thank you for coming and having a real conversation about everything that you've been up to.
It's wonderful.
I can't wait to come back.
Life's been a little busy, but to come back and have some more wine at the yard.
We had a lot of South African recently.
We had the waitress, South African waitress and stuff like that.
Oh, amazing.
Okay.
We discovered that there is plenty of groups of South African in Paris.
Really cool people, really cool staff.
So if you want to have a great time, we are here for that.
Really cool team.
Yeah, thanks so much.
And yeah, I hope maybe one day there'll be a yard South Africa
with some natural wine here, lots of potential.
So I know the competition is rife between France and South Africa,
so we won't unpack that now.
But yeah, thank you to you.
Thanks for coming to share.
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