Your Happy Hour - Life in the Flow

Episode Date: April 17, 2026

In this episode, we chat with Julien McRoberts, a sought after photographer and storyteller who shares with us her journey of following joy and seizing opportunities all while traveling the world! She reminded us that with an open mind to pivoting careers as well as being persistent in the pursuit of your passions can lead to incredible new experiences. Trust that the universe has your back and ask yourself - What doors have opened for you lately?The Feels is all about having those honest conversations, the power of community for personal growth and taking those actionable steps towards being our authentic selves.Thanks for tuning in! Keep it raw and real out there xYHH is produced by swartkat.co - captured via riverside.fm & shared via rss.com.

It's the Friday Feels and we're back with your first sip of the weekend. You're now tuned in to this week's episode of your happy hour. I'm your host Nicole Carmine and it's amazing to have you here. Joining me this week as we uncover the truths about being a human and a working professional. What are you up to this Friday? Well, whatever it is, this moment is just for you. A big welcome back to the feel space, the Your Happy Hour series, and this month we have been talking about following your joy, which is such a wonderful theme, especially in the northern

hemisphere as we're entering kind of springtime and it's sunny and we're all just feeling a lot more joyous coming out of the winter hibernation. And I'm really privileged to chat to someone today who I met here in Paris. and it's been wonderful to get to know you, Julian, a little bit more. And a big, big welcome to the field space and to this podcast. And, yeah, just really excited to share more of what you're doing and following your joy in the world with our audience. So big welcome.

Oh, Nicole, thank you. Thank you so much for having me. And hello to your audience and everybody. And it's been just such a joy to get to know you as well. You were one of the first people I met in Paris. So it was a great way to have an entree and to. France and feel so welcomed here and your joy is infectious so I'm glad we got to know each other. No, thank you. Yeah, Andrea, I love that and it's really been, I think that for both of us as we've

kind of gotten to find our feet here in Paris. So tell me a little bit about, I know you, you're amazing photographer and I always love looking at your site because as you updated with pictures and I see you've added your Persian experiences, so I get to see some places that, you know, it's kind of the world through your eyes, which is such a beautiful artistic lens. And I'm curious how you got to being where you are today and like what the path of following your joy has led you to. Well, it's actually just been that, just following a path. And not with, you know, any particular intentions. For me, it's always just been go where the window open, crack and see if you can go through that or the door or the road. And it's like, you know,

lot of times been pivots and twists and turns, but it's really just been kind of following my heart and following the opportunities. So actually, photography is, I think, career number, I think it's number five. So when I've been sticking with, although now with AI, I don't know, I'm having to rethink this one a bit. Some changes might have to pivot for one more, but yeah, it really has just been going to work, places I wanted to live and have that lifestyle, not just have to work to live, but be able to just really enjoy what I do, whatever that is throughout the various careers, and taking advantage of that and just going with the flow, to be quite honest. I love that. Yeah, I feel like life is in the flow. Like life really just finds you when you're in your flow. I mean, what kind of gets you in

your flow as a person? I think I'm innately curious. So, kind of backtrack a bit some of my earlier door opening adventures. I mean, just really, I found myself back in San Francisco again, where I was originally born and raised, and I decided after college, I wanted to just travel around the world. I'm like, I'm just curious. I want to see what that brings me, what doors that opens up. So just basically hustled, save up some money, and then traveled and just enjoyed that and found my joy in traveling. And again, never had really a set itinerary other than I had a around the world ticket that was good for a year. I'm just going to be open, be open and see what comes in, see who I meet.

And then that just kind of snowballed from there. And then upon my return to San Francisco, that experience actually landed me a job with a model agency, working in the agency. And my background actually is an interior design, but I've never really used it other than for some photography. So again, it just opened the door. And that enthusiasm and joy was infectious to the person that I had met at an agency. and myself was trying to do a little tea room modeling and some shows at the time.

And he's like, you're great. I can't believe you went and traveled around the world by yourself. That's just fantastic. Would you like to be an agent here? Okay. What do I do? All for it, a lot of it's been a fake it till you make it. And then once I started doing that, it was, oh, I kind of like this.

I'm kind of good at this. I actually like casting. Maybe I'll be a casting director. And so my husband at the time we had met, we decided, well, let's move to L.A. And he and I plotted to somehow get me into casting. So he helped me out in that venture. And it was the same thing. It was like, let's see what doors we can open.

And then just kind of, you know, point yourself in that direction and go. And sometimes other doors open once you're already in that space. So again, for me, it's just been just, you know, opportunities that land in my lap. It's always kind of been that way. Same with even places where I live or how we end up in Mexico or we ended up in Lisbon or now we're in Paris and New York. And so it's just always been new opportunities and just being open to that. I think for me, that's brought me a lot of joy.

because change is good. It's good to be spontaneous and not have things holding you down. Because if they do, then you're limiting yourself because you don't know what your true potential might be in another place, another location, another country, or speaking another language, or meeting new people. So that's kind of been a general overall theme with me. Oh, well, that's super inspiring.

I love that. And I love that you have this adventurous traveler's heart, you know. And I mean, gosh, I've never thought about buying a, around the world ticket. Maybe that could be an interesting experience. And I don't know if it's really advertised as much as it used to be. I mean, I remember kind of hearing about it when I was in South Africa younger. But I'm really curious about how you talk about kind of aligning to where the door is opening.

And I know there are theories that people say, you know, you should be like, oh, this is what I want. And then the universe will conspire to make that happen for you, which I do believe too. but maybe there's something interesting talking about, like, where the universe is showing you something and then you pivot towards that, you know, is that what you basically found? Yeah. I mean, I can take you to career number four. That was, we'll kind of digress before that. I was working in the corporate world in Los Angeles and somehow just, again, that was the other doors that opened. But long story short, that company got bought out and everybody just got downsized. So all of a sudden, I'm left in Santa Fe going, oh, I don't have a job anymore.

So I ended up pivoting, and long story short, I didn't work in animal welfare, started out volunteering, then got on their board, then got paid as executive director, and I was passionate about working for the animals. So passion does play into this a lot, too. That was 10 years, but that became a real burnout situation, having to raise over a million dollars a year pretty much on my own in a small town. So it was really difficult, too, dealing with animals. It was really positive sides to that.

and then really difficult, difficult things that go on in the animal industry, as you can imagine. So I was like, I need to do something else. I was having a midlife crisis driving down Santa Fe Boulevard, an old, say, Pecos Trail. Just going to do with my life, what am I going to do with my life? I can't keep doing this. And I just decided, I'm going to just take a photography class. So I took a photography workshop for a week at Santa Fe photo workshops. I was like, ooh, I kind of like this.

I know I had artistic sides to me what could never find the right fit. but this photography class is like, a little light bulb went off and it just clicked. And I really liked it. So I thought, well, I have all these business skills and I really like photography. And I know people in town. I can just kind of make this work,

get out of animal welfare, start building this business and it just took off. So that's been 18 years. I was really passionate about it. And what I've learned over the years for me, whatever I'm passionate about, I kind of have a seven-year window where I'm just obsessed with it

and building that business or doing whatever it is, where it's being a ski bomb or working with the animals or being a photographer. So I've come to learn you really have to nurture that passion and be careful with it too because sometimes being an artist and a business person, it kind of can steal your joy from being an artist when you have to wear that business hat. And all of a sudden, it's a business. And you're having to work and hustle and make money or do this and that and marketing. And all of a sudden, what you truly loved, just the true art of that has been kind of diluted.

So I've had to be careful, but that's kind of how I ended up finding my passion. I wasn't driven to be a photographer, but I kind of ended up on this path and went, oh, this works. So for me, I just, again, I never know quite where it's going to go. It's always just landed in my lap. Same thing with every time we move. I don't worry about finding an apartment or a house or this or that because it just the door opens up and that perfect apartment or house just shows right up. It's really like it feels very, very important.

empowering. I mean, I think not a lot of people live like this, you know, but I'm, I want to know, like, I mean, I know I felt a lot of that at times where I have this, you know, belief and this very much grounded trust in, in what the universe. And I think it's also a huge self-trust. Like, there's a lot of trust that you have in yourself to be able to say, look, okay, I'm going to be a photographer in the world. And a lot of us trip up in that belief and that self-trust, you know, and then we just don't go do that thing and follow through. So what do you feel like cultivated that for you, a trust in yourself?

I just learned at an early age, if I put it out there, if I wanted it bad enough, and I just kind of just put it out there, I could make it happen. Part of it is just really your own follow through. If it is something, if it's, again, not one of those door opening situations that lands in your lap,

but if it is the direction you do want to go for me, it's just being persistent. And I saw this as a model agent early on. remember this one model. She, this girl, she wanted to be a model so bad. And at the time, this was the era of the Cindy Crawfords and Naomi Campbell's, all these beautiful glamazon top models. This girl was tall, gangly, and not very good looking. She had very odd features, but she was persistent. She wanted to be a model. And like, yeah, but you don't fit what's kind of going on right now. And that industry back then was very much you had to fit in the box.

Yeah. But she was persistent. Her persistence ended up paying off. She ended up finding a place for her look in Europe. It wasn't in the U.S. She went to wear as more suitable to her, but I thought, well, good for her because she was the most unlikely person that would have made it at that time in San Francisco or Los Angeles. So she found herself in Europe. So I'm like, yeah, that's right. Persistence does pay off. I can attest to that moving to Paris. For us, that was kind of a crapshoot. We were in Lisbon, and it just wasn't the right fit. We were not finding joy there. So we're like, this isn't working. We need to go somewhere where we really feel it in our part where we feel happy, where it's our place, it's our peeps. And so we decided to venture off to

Paris. The problem was the time we wanted to do this, they had the Olympics. So we couldn't quite do that with the visas and finding an apartment here and all that. So I thought, you know what, let's do something fun. Let's be digital nomads for a year. Why not? We can just, we both work on our laptop. We'll just keep the same budget and we'll just kind of, you know, every six weeks or every four weeks, we'll just go to a different country and just do this. And so we did. That was fun. But our end was to get to Paris. And it was a crapshoot. But we put it out there like, nope, I'm sending all the furniture, what little we have we have. We are sending it and put it in storage in Paris. We didn't even have visas yet. Didn't have an apartment. Didn't have anything. Didn't know if we were going to get

approved. The visa process here is not easy, as you know. And so like just went on like blind trust, have blind faith that, nope, we're going to be living in Paris. And, you know, we made it work and we made it happen. And again, it just all fell into place. But there were a few moments of like, especially when they get dampen. Come collector visa. Like, oh, thank God, thank God. We celebrate that night because the other one, we're homeless.

We have no country. We have stuff in storage and have no apartment to live in. So that one was a little more pushing the envelope than we normally like. But again, we just went with that, you know, being flexible with that and making it work. And we would have had a plan B. I'm not quite sure what that would have been. But we didn't need it, thankfully.

Yeah. I think it's a wonderful. way to go through life because then you really give the opportunity for things that are like meant to take time sometimes to fall into place to have that time because I think we're often in like a very instant gratification world right now but sometimes the good things really need to like cultivate over time so I'm really happy that it worked out for you guys too and yes it's really not easy I think and I think also when you go through these processes that it helps you figure out what you really want to do?

Like I always think my visa application is a bit like a letter to the universe, you know. It's like asking or a letter to myself going like, what am I really doing here? You know, what do I really want to do here? And I've seen a lot of those things manifest since I've written them in the visa application in different ways that I didn't expect. So do you feel like there's been people along your journey that have like helped you be more open to following your joy? like giving you advice?

Not really. I think they were all part of the journey. I've met different people along the way that have made connections for me or, you know, like yourself, people are meeting people in new places that are open, that are like-minded. But as far as anyone's helping guide my journey, not really, not in my situation. But what I can take away from this, I wanted to talk about that a little bit earlier, was what was important for us that I learned out of this, especially this is great that it just frees you immensely.

And I'm older, obviously. I'm not 25. And the things I wish I'd have known then I know now, and I'm happy to share, it's like, don't get so hung up on things and material stuff. It just weighs you down. And case in point, we were living in Santa Fe for about 18 years. And we loved it.

We had five dogs there. And then, sadly, they started dying off. We were down to two. and if after 18 years we just looked around and went, is this it? We're going to sit on this porch, this beautiful porch looking out at the coyotes every day, drinking margaritas, is this the rest of our life? We're going to live and die here, looking at the coyotes. Like, no, we wanted more.

We wanted to go to New York. We sold everything. We got rid of everything, the big house, the cars, all the furnishings. We just kept like 10% of that. Our whole life fit into a small container. And we moved to New York from a big house to about 600 square feet. And it was so liberating. And it made me realize, God, we spent all this money over the years on stuff, on furniture,

on this and that, and just, it's stuff that just, it goes away. And what was more important for us was being happy where we were, having experiences, or living in places that meant a lot to us. Yeah, New York was expensive, but you know what? We were happy, and it opened many doors. And, you know, it's just, you have to figure what is that tradeoff that makes you happy. And so, and that was very liberating because once COVID hit, New York, was a disaster. And as much as we loved being there, we ended up leaving because it was just,

there was nobody. We weren't working. It was awful. It was depressing. Our dog had just died. And we're like, we need to be out of here. It's just my heart was the same. We need to go. We need to go. Our gut was telling me, need to go. And we thought, well, we knew we wanted to move abroad at some point. This got accelerated. And the only country that would take us in, like Europe, no, Uruguay, no, everybody's like, no, no, no Americans. Mexico, and Mexico has always been my happy place. So speaking about joy, that's like, I go there and I feel like a totally different person. The people are happy.

It's sunny. They're just, the Mexicans are amazing. I've been going there in my whole life. I thought, well, let's go to Mexico. And my dear friend in Mexico, I said, Alfie, are they going to close the borders to Americans? Do you think? No, no, no, they'll never close. Just come, come.

So, you know, it's bienvenito, Mexico. So we spent a year down there during COVID. And we loved it there. It was fun. We knew it wasn't our permanent. spot, but we followed our joy and we enjoyed being in Mexico that year. It didn't feel like COVID because you had the beaches and people were very friendly and safe and it was open. So again, it was just not being bogged down by things. Had we had, again, all that stuff, we would not have been

able to leave so easily. And same thing when we ended up in Europe. Again, we were just down to minimal stuff, stuff that's just, oh, true things that you love, that bring you joy. So that's kind of something I wanted to share that. I thought is really important to don't get caught up in having all the material things. They don't really bring you happiness in the end. It's so true. It's so true.

It's really. Yeah, no, you need to create like a bit of a sanctuary or home for you in space. But I think it's, I also kind of learned that over my travels is that if I have Gracie with me, my dog, and I'm doing something that I love, then I'm happy. Like, that's home to me, you know. I don't really need too much more. The rest is kind of just like icing on the cake.

But I think it's really brave, you know, and I really am very curious for what's coming next for you. You were saying like that you kind of maybe going into a new pivot and like what does following your joy look like for you now in the next while? You know, that's interesting you asked that because I thought, oh, this is it.

This is the final thing. When I got to this career, I'm like, this is it. This is what I love to do. I'll be doing this the rest of the rest of. to my life. I love this. And then cell phone. Then AI, like, ah, the whole industry just went down the toilet over the last decade or so. So it's really, really wreaked havoc on my career. So, and I love it. I still enjoy doing it, but it's not as passionate as I once was about it.

Because I reached that dream. And I think sometimes once you reach your dream, it's like, well, then what? You kind of need a new dream. I've already kind of been at the top of what I was doing. I still like it. But I, that's what I've been asking myself, what next? So, I think it's going to come full circle. That I know. I know it'll be something probably in production. I've been producing things my whole life, whether it's photo shoots, events, this, that, the other. So I'm naturally a producer. And I think it's going to tie in with, I do love Africa, African causes, and I do love animals. So it's going to be something around producing films like documentaries for a particular cause could be in Africa or could be helping support a cause, like the Padengo and Gallagalago dogs in Spain.

they need help getting their story out. So it would be probably doing something around those lines, getting into production for charitable causes. That's amazing. That's amazing. I'm really excited to see you flourish in that. I feel like that will be such an incredible next chapter, like of joy coming for you.

And again, I just want to like, you know, celebrate your agility and adaptiveness as a human. You know, I think we all change is the only constant we really have. and it's like to be celebrated, but we yet we fear it so much. And so I just want to say to everyone else listening out there, you know, if you're feeling like you're stuck in some place that you're struggling to and follow that nudge or hear the nudge even, just take some quiet time. And, you know, I feel like Julian you're such an inspiration for living a life that you can change tomorrow, you know, you can make different decisions and doors will open.

It's not always easy, though, no. Trust me. It has moments. And it does involve sometimes to take that leap, but you're taking also a big step back. Could be with your pain. It could be with whatever. It could be in a relationship. But that's okay.

It's temporary. You realize, okay, it's temporary. This, you know, the next six months I'm eating, you know, macaroni and cheese or ramen. But then after that, when you build up yourself back up, you know, it can just take off from there. So you've got to be willing to take risk. If you're risk-averse, this is not the lifestyle for you. Some people like to be very much in control. and have things, and that's fine.

But if you, you know, what prompted I moved from Lisbon to Paris so quickly was we, I was not happy there at all. I was constantly thinking of New York, New York, New York. Every day I missed New York terribly, and it was just not happy and nor was my husband. I said, what if I had three years or one year left to live? Where do I want to spend it?

Boom, Paris. I knew like that instant. Like, oh my God, then what are we doing here? Boom, let's made that decision. Let's go. We're moving to Paris. Uh-oh, Olympics. Well, let's kind of, you know, do something.

something else until we can get to that point. We'll do the digital nomad thing and experience life because nothing's promised, nothing's given. So ask yourself that question. What do I want to be doing? What if I only had one year left to live? Where do I want to spend it? What do I want to be doing? That'll make things crystal clear real fast. 100%. 100%. I'm just kind of asking myself that question as you were explaining it. And yeah, I think it's, you know, we sometimes kind of live like we'll live forever. And then sometimes we live like there is no tomorrow and we fluctuate between these worlds and sometimes we get completely stuck in the past and we forget that there's a present you know but I think it's so important to be

able to to remember that life is fleeting and and even though I do believe time is just you know illusion and a construct it's there it is it is part of our lives it's part about being human you know our bodies change and so yeah I want to encourage everyone out there to like go follow your joy follow the things that make your heart burn and light up, you know. And on that topic, I'd love for us to do a little segment called The Gems. And those are the things that maybe you've learned in the last week that have given you something to celebrate, or maybe it was something that you really had to work through,

or that you're grateful for. For me, it's been really also kind of just dealing with, I feel like there's been a lot of energy shifts around like shedding the old, and sometimes I've found that quite hard, you know, like they talk about like that snake skin that you have to let go of to rejuvenate. And I feel like sometimes my snake doesn't want to let go of its skin, you know, and it's not easy.

But I think it's so, so, so important to know that you cannot be the new person while standing in the shoes of the old person of who you were before. So that's been a really nice kind of realization for me that I really just had to let go. And sometimes that, like you say, material stuff, it's important that it also gets out of your life, you know.

So, yeah, what has it been for you? You know, I kind of made a shift recently with kind of embracing AI where I can use it as a tool, not my enemy, because as I think any artist these days, you have a bit of a disdain towards aspects of AI because it's really been so detrimental for so many artists' careers, musicians, graphic artists, photographers, and so on. but I decided to pivot a little bit and started really embracing the stock images I sell. I'm like, that's a side hustle. It's a passive income.

Like, I need to build up a passive income even more. I do okay with it. But I'm using now AI to really help me figure out and game the algorithm. So I'm like, all right, if I have to like deal in AI, I'm going to like use it to my advantage. So for me, kind of that mind shift of really doing that. So I do that in the evenings while I'm doing some other gigs. from giving presentations or what have you. But I made that shift.

And it's been kind of exciting because now all of a sudden I see sales are starting to pop up. I'm like, wow, this is really, really great. This is working. So now it's kind of like being out of slot machine in Vegas like, ching, to ching. That image sold. Oh my gosh. And it's because I'm using the tools because someone's way smarter than me

and figuring out how to make this work. And so that's been kind of a shift for me. So while it's not the most creative thing I do, it is something that's like, all right, if we have to live with this, I'm going to at least use this to my advantage. Yeah, I love that. I think AI is so powerful to be able to, like you say, strategize and work out processes and it's really helped me a lot in my life too. So, well, yes, we want more coaching moments

in our lives. I don't want to be dumbed down because it's very easy to fall into that trap of relying on it for a lot of things instead of thinking things through. Yeah, I think it's a really fine balance right now in the world, you know, in terms of how we're using AI and how we also kind of, I think it's also pushing us to appreciate authentic art more, which I have, I think is a wonderful thing. And for creatives, it's really like pushing us to be more creative and understand what our art means to us and how we want to express it. And I think a lot of people appreciate that they want the authenticity. Yeah, AI is fun. It came out and be like, ah, it's amazing. But then they're kind of going, oh, no, this is like, steals my joy. It's like, you look at a

photograph. I remember the first time I saw these four women in India in their saris. I like going down a street on skateboards. I'm like, oh my God, that's so cool. I love the shot. Who was the lucky photographer that caught that? And I went, oh, this is AI. When it first came like, like, I all of a sudden it just felt ick. I got the ick.

Like, that wasn't a real moment. They weren't real people necessarily. It's like, and I think a lot of people are having that aversion when they see some of the AI content that's created. I mean, so it's fun. You know, the Chihuahua is having margaritas within a bar. That's fine. I love that.

But don't try to trick me. Don't try to tell me it's something that's really not. because I think intuitively we know that. So I know at least with my photography, I let my clients know that I don't use AI. I don't go on an app and go just have everything all edited and looking perfect. I won't do that. I still hand touch every shot that you're getting from me.

And I want people to know when they hire me that I don't use AI on that. Because I think that's important. They're hiring an artist. They're hiring somebody to give them that authenticity and a unique, you know, shoot catered to just them, bespoke to their and their needs. So yeah, there's that. I know a lot of other artists that feel the same way and don't support AI as far as giving them their stuff

so AI can build better models to steal your job. Oh, yes, yes. I've seen a lot of that. I get these prompts on LinkedIn for become a voice actor to train AI. And I'm like, no, no, there's no way I'm giving you my voice. So I think it's definitely also pushing us to value who we are more in the world, which is also a good thing.

and we just have to step into that. You know, it's a bit like you say, when you follow the joy and open the doors and go for it, you know, we just have to step into owning our worth as artists and creatives. Absolutely. Yeah, it's collective. Yeah, you need it to align and have a resonance, right, in order for, I think, a really great collaboration to happen.

Absolutely. Sometimes a lot of that is the human element of it. And speaking of collaborations, I want to just have a quick moment to say thank you to the platforms that make this possible. And we have beautiful partnerships with RSS.com, which is our distributing platform to help us put this into the world and be heard. And also with Blender Bombs, Spom Company, they in America,

but they distribute globally. And it's these delicious snacks that you can get as you on that go. They give our audience a beautiful 20% discount if you use the code the feels. And then very lastly, but not leastly, it's a B&E SIM. best network ever sim and I've used them so much I still use them I was using them as I travel and it's really easy to get a SIM card for whatever country but also just a global sim that you can travel with around the world and the data is really very inexpensive so I really appreciate all these partners in the world thank you for bringing us your fields and speaking of bringing fields I want to do

a quick another segment and that is we have each time a thing called the PPS which is the people, places and spaces. And we just give a shout-out to a personal organization or space that we feel have the feels. And so this week goes to something that I got involved in quite recently, and I just think it's so cute and so much worth in the world. And that is an organization called Mikasso Baby Club. And so I've started giving,

it's kind of like introducing classical music to babies and kids from a young age in a structured kind of class environment and gives the moms a little break to and also a different way to bond with their kids. And it's just such a beautiful concept. And I don't necessarily have kids in my life, so I've really been enjoying having that connection with them. So a really big shout out to them,

and we love your feels, guys. And then I just have one more question for you actually today, and that is our reading list. So it's called The Stack. and I am curious about what is in your stack. It could be a book that you've read and want to recommend, or maybe it's still looking at you from the distance. A couple of them.

Empress of the Night, I absolutely love. And I'll explain just a synopsis of each. And also Agent Baker, or is it Agent Josephine? It's one of the two. It's about Josephine Baker, which was absolutely fascinating. And she recently this came out just within a few years ago, how she was so integral in different. French resistance and how she used that whole facade of her glamorous persona as an entertainer.

But behind the scenes, she was smuggling things. She was passing secrets. She was going to Lisbon and Morocco. And fascinating story. Really, really a great read. And the Empress of the Nile is another one. Both these are kind of like about very empowered women. Empress of the Nile was about a French woman who wanted to be an Egyptologist.

And this is like at the turn of the early 1900s. and there were not women that were Egyptologists. They were as a man's world. And so she was not welcome in it. And so it's really about her overcoming to make breakthroughs and strides and get to be a part of that and be an Egyptologist. And again, too, she was also working with the resistance come World War II and getting things out of the Louvre.

Thank you for recommending those. That sounds, I mean, Josephine Baker, I went to see the theater play here in Paris. A good friend of mine was one of the actresses. And it was incredible. really, I really enjoyed it and I actually didn't know much about her life. You know, I just heard about like the Piscine, like the pool here, you know. So I really appreciated that. And Empress of the Nile sounds amazing.

That's such a fascinating story. I mean, there's so many of these wonderful kind of, you know, I want to say warriors, but it's not a warrior, but just someone with courage, you know, living in a way that helps us appreciate a lot of the past in the future as well. Yes, they overcame lots of obstacles and kept going through the doors. So I think that's what resonated with me. Exactly, exactly. Thank you so much for recommending those.

So all the books that I'd recommended on the podcast will be on the website as well if you interested. And yeah, and then I just want to say thank you so much for coming on and sharing. And I'm just such an inspiration for everyone, you know, leading a life. through your heart, which I think is your heart and your art, which is a wonderful combination. And so thank you so much for sharing that with us today. And if any of you found this inspiration, you find yourself in Paris and you want to hang out with a photographer and get to see some cool places to shoot and want to learn a little bit, just go to my site.

I just put up a new thing that I'm offering, Paris experiences. So, yeah, check it out. It would be really fun. I'd love to meet your audience as they pass through here. I will definitely let everyone know about that. That sounds amazing. at such a beautiful city to explore with, especially through your lens. We'll definitely do that.

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