Your Happy Hour - Living the CoCo Life

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

Welcome back to Your Happy Hour with Friday Feels!This week we chatted to Frédéric Geoffrois, founder of CoCo Community - a vibrant co-working and living community in the heart of Paris, with a very authentic family-feel approach. We explore the value of creating a space to share ideas, culture and life in the local French feels, how technology and trust can play together to build authenticity and how to successfully navigate and sustain the shift to being an entrepreneur.What does the authentic community around you look like?Friday Feels is all about having those honest conversations, the power of community for personal growth and taking those actionable steps towards being our authentic selves.Thanks for tuning in! Keep it raw and real out there xYHH is produced byswartkat.co via the awesome tech platform:riverside.fm

It's the Friday Feels, and we're back with your first sip of the weekend. You're now tuned in to this week's episode of your happy hour i'm your host nicole carmine and it's amazing to have you here joining me this week as we uncover the truths about being a human and a working professional what are you up to this friday well whatever it is this moment is just for you. And we're back with another episode of your happy hour. And we're in the flesh of January. We're all kind of going back to work, slowly starting to take on this new year. Perhaps your January has started with a bang. Perhaps it's slowly crawling into the new year.

Well, whatever it is, please tell us your feels and a very, very big welcome to another month of talking about something really cool, which is authentic community. What does that really mean when we say authentic community? So last week, we explored a little bit about community around traveling and the concept of finding your traveling community through the help of AI and real life stories. And this week I am chatting to Frédéric Geoffroy. I hope I'm saying this correctly with my very still learning French accent, but Frédéric has founded a very cool concept and community here in the heart of Paris and I'm very lucky that I've got to know a little bit more about them. It's called Coco Community

and for our topic today we're talking about living the Coco life. So a very very big welcome to you, welcome to the Your Happy Hour podcast. It's really really great to have you here today to chat about a little bit more of what you've done and your journey and really excited to hear what's brought you to this point. So before I dive into what Coco is, maybe you just want to give us a little bit of a shout out of who you are, where you've come from and what this topic means to you. Thank you, Nicole. I'm very glad to be on this podcast and i'm passionate about community so this is a great topic and i'm happy to to give you more details about how we build

or we try to build a community in paris for internationals staying a couple of months in the capital of love i love that i love that uh all around and so coco community is a co-living it's a co-working but also kind of in-person event space um i know that you guys have an awesome, cozy, very cute space there in the heart of Le Marais, which I think is one of the most beautiful areas in Paris. And then you provide these amazing and really chic spaces for people to live in. And I hope at some point I can also indulge in that here in Paris. You're welcome. Thank you. So what does authentic community mean to you? How did Cocoa Community start?

Maybe just a little bit about your journey to this point. So maybe I talk a little bit about the origin of the idea. I was traveling around the world for a large corporate company that was a company which is 100, their business around the world. And basically, I lived in many cities where I was staying a couple of months in order to negotiate contracts. And I realized from my experience in hotels and apart hotels or service departments that the experience was not so great because at the end of my trips I was realizing that I didn't really meet local people.

For example I was a lot in Asia, in Japan, in Seoul, in Taiwan, in Shanghai, in China. And I didn't meet with Chinese or with Japanese, for example, easily. And I missed the opportunity to learn the culture and to learn interesting things because I was more in an expat life to geared towards having fun, going into bars, into nightclubs. But intellectually, it was a little bit poor. So what I tried to create at Coco is a place where you have a community of people that are interesting

coming from all around the world so it's a vetted community i select the people that are coming to to the community myself by an interview and we offer events in order to socialize common spaces currently we have a co-working space, as you said, in Le Marais. The aim is to have much more common spaces. And why not a coffee, a wine bar, places where you can gather and have interesting discussions. And, of course, apartments. Because it's hard to find an apartment in Paris for a couple of months. So we have facilitated all the process the contract and we have very well equipped apartments with a lot of services we also have a concierge this is much more linked to the community

in order to advise what to do in paris and and things like that amazing Amazing. Yeah, I think that gives a really good description of what Coco is. And the little bit that I have experienced, I've been to one of your in-person events and had a bit of a social day, which was wonderful. And I really felt like what struck me is you guys have a very personal touch

to what you bring to the community and you know you really are providing something very unique and authentic I think authentic is the right word but like what does that mean for you when you kind of think of authenticity and maybe the practical things that you've had to do to build authentic community versus maybe something that's not as authentic? The fact that I select the people that are going to come to Coco, to our apartments and to our community is I think quite important because what I want is to have interesting discussions. So is to have interesting discussions. So I try to use the knowledge of every person that comes to Coco. Because the people that are coming are very...

There is a huge variety of occupations, of talents. We have entrepreneurs, of of course we have artists geopolitical professors psychoanalysts writers you know so each of this person has have very interesting people things to say and we organized some talks like not TED talks we call them Coco talks but we took the concept of TED talks which is super interesting because you get to hear inspiring people so we try to gather inspiring people who are coming from all around the world and are here in Paris in order for them to discuss and to communicate their knowledge. And I think this is a way for me to have a community

that is interested by sharing their ideas. And I think that's really unique that I've never really seen that anywhere else in the world you know people always gathering around ideas on a Facebook group or you know something online maybe meet up here and there but I've never seen a co-living co-working space do it in this way so I think that's really quite special and obviously being in Paris and people coming here in this melting pot of people like you say from all sorts of walks of life I can imagine having to create this from the beginning wasn't necessarily always so easy and kind of moving from a corporate job to entrepreneurship yeah

what was that journey like for you? I was really sure that there was a need right because i experienced the fact that there was a need for this kind of community when you go for a business trip or for for a business assignment so i was really sure deep inside that there was a market so that helped me to really make the move because it's true that from a corporate world to an entrepreneur to being an entrepreneur it's a very big difference i faced some challenge of course a lot of for example i the other challenge was that I never knew hospitality. I never worked in real estate. So the content of the sector was a mystery to me. I was a customer of hotels.

So I knew what is the experience that I want to provide. I have a clear vision of what is the experience and the service I want to provide. I have a clear vision of what is the experience and the service I want to provide. Yet, I don't know hospitality and real estate and all the details which are quite important. And being an entrepreneur is also a challenge because in a large company, you don't look at your cash.

For example, the company that i was in was super successful so i didn't have to be very detailed on finance and on so that being you know to serve how to survive whereas when you're an entrepreneur you try to survive every day because at the beginning, you're usually not profitable. So the only way you can survive is by getting money. And so you have to prove your concept. It's much more involved. You have much more involvement. if some persons want to try to be an entrepreneur when coming from a large company,

is that large companies usually give you a lot of techniques, a lot of training that you can reuse as an entrepreneur. So you're not lost totally in translation. For example, very orient was very good in finance it was a company that was driven by finance and in it's true that i brought finance in coco so we are very serious about figures you know things like that you bring you bring your your knowledge with you being an entrepreneur you don't start from nothing yeah yeah that's very true and i think sometimes people feel like you know you you don't always know why you do certain things in your life but then at some point they all make

sense when you kind of go for what you what you want to go for and you have all those skills within you you know nothing's ever lost and i think also with the world of ai that's opening up to us we have like other kinds of people's skills and talents and and input at our fingertips really so i'm sure that's also making life a lot easier for you guys in a lot of ways too yeah ai is clearly changing every company even the smallest ones and what is very interesting that i discovered by being an entrepreneur is how tech tech ai or other kind of technologies can be brought much faster in a small company than in a large company because you're much more flexible

and you can implement the latest technology in one day. You don't need to ask to your management and it's not going to change all the IT system like in a large corporation. When you're an entrepreneur entrepreneur you can test and learn super fast and that's really exciting yeah it is it is and i think it's quite amazing how one can leverage the technology in conjunction with community it's like maybe we don't see it now but technology is just really helping us bring each other closer in some ways,

depending on obviously how the intention and what it's used for. But I think it's really cool that you guys can see that. And I think that's the beauty about startups. We often have people come on here and they talk about how they love being in a startup because of that, because you can move so nimbly and so easily by creating. So I think that's a really cool change and whoever who's listening out there if you're keen to make the jump just know you you know you've got community out there who've been through this feel free to reach out and yeah so I'm you were saying

that you obviously had some challenges and I'm curious so Coco has been alive for how long now four years four years okay so I guess about 10 years ago we always ask this question did you So Coco has been alive for how long now? Four years. Four years. Okay. So I guess about 10 years ago, we always asked this question. Did you have any idea that you were going to do this or think that you would go into entrepreneurship in this way? Since I was really young, I admired entrepreneurs. So I knew that I was tempted by entrepreneurship

but I didn't know how to go there because the more I was staying in a large company the more I was comfortable with high salary comfortable job and the more I felt that the gap would be widening and the jump would be much much more dangerous with time so at one point i decided when i was 40 to to jump saying if i don't jump now i'm gonna have less and less willingness and energy also to do it because you need so much

energy when you create your own project i had some you know some money you need to put some money aside also to finance reasonably reasonably your first business and to show that it's going to work so i made that you need a little bit of savings i think especially when you're 40 it's good to have some money to invest to show the first product you know the minimal product via we call that the minimal viable product yeah and then you can show it to your investors or to um some business angels or friends and family but they will believe much more in your project if there is something that has been built by yourself in which you have invested by yourself right that's true yeah that's very true i think a lot of people don't have that money put aside and that's the challenge so then it becomes

a lot harder because you're asking for a lot of a lot of investment in that so that's amazing that you at least had that foresight to to put that away and i like i think a lot of people kind of just jump in headfirst into entrepreneurship and starting something with zero, which is also very possible, but it does become quite hard. And especially, I think, with your industry, and I think this is an interesting question, you are dealing with a lot of different communities. So it's not just like you have one tech solution

that you can kind of build in a garage like Google, but you're dealing with community and building development and property and property owners and the members. And there's a lot to bring together. So how do you end up juggling all of these communities and bringing them together and building one brand? By inviting them at the events and offering them champagne, wine and food. I think food and beverage has been since the ancient times the best way to create communities. We are very happy to have our owners coming to our events

in order to meet with the tenants you know and we are also trying at our events to mix the international customers that we have we call them the colivers with the local associations or the local people that are also welcome to our events. I want the international persons that come to Paris to learn about French culture, which is what I didn't really have when I was traveling. I didn't have a platform to help me into understanding the Japanese when I was in Japan, the Chinese when I was in China. So here I really want to invite my friends. And that's to go back to your point about a family feeling.

We are still a small company. And so there is this family feeling because myself and my co-founder, sometimes we bring our children to the events. You know, and so there is this family feel. And this is the challenge that we will have when we will grow, how to keep this personal touch where of course the internationals that come to paris and participate to our events like that because they feel really in a family it's it's much more than a it's really a family when you come to coco and how do we manage will we manage, will we manage to grow this concept when we become more international? It's going to be a challenge.

Yeah, it will be, but it's going to be an interesting journey for you to walk. And I'm quite excited to watch from the side. And I think the more we are online, you know, you and I are in the same city right now, but we're having an online conversation. But the more we online and in person this hybrid feeling I think it's going to become very interesting how you keep that community so is that something that you felt because you're obviously chatting to people before they arrive in Paris people already like leave in Paris after they've stayed or interacted with the co-working so how do you keep that Coco community going?

That's an interesting point indeed. As you said, what I try to do is as soon as the person selects its apartment, we add him or her to a community WhatsApp where all the members of Coco who have been there in Paris are usually staying even when they are living in Paris they stay in the

community WhatsApp and through this community WhatsApp for example they do home exchange so you know what is home exchange. So you have one from San Francisco that's living, the other is from Barcelona and lives at the same time,

and they exchange their house. So they do that through a community WhatsApp. So it means that in order to keep the community alive, you need to create value. This community needs to, you need to offer value to every member. The other thing that the members of the community who left Paris are asking me to do is to record all our events and do podcasts of our events so they feel they continue to feel the the touch because the the coco touch let's say because they sometimes they have nostalgia i guess and they would like to to participate in a way to the events who again are very interesting in terms of content

yeah so we are we are going to improve that we are not at the today we are not doing it we also have some sometimes some confidentiality issues because when you have an in-person meeting, physical meeting, the person that is doing the talk is much more open to talk about, you know, things that are a little bit touchy. Let's say, for example, we had a geopolitic professor that had the subject was, she's an expert about Russia and Ukraine. And it's a kind of discussion that's not easy to broadcast if you want to have real content. So we also like to believe that the person that are going to come and to make the effort of being there physically are going to have a reward.

Yeah. And there's a lot of what you're saying, the word that comes up to me is trust. There's a lot of trust that you're building within that community of people being able to be open to share homes, feelings, opinions, expressions, all of that. So I think at the essence of authenticity and authentic community is a lot of trust in you guys too to provide a kind of experience for them. But yeah, that's really interesting. And I've yet to make one of the talks and I will very soon hopefully be able to join.

I know you've got one this month. Yes, on the 31st of January amazing so whoever's listening and is in Paris will definitely broadcast it on the socials and you're welcome to go and check out a Coco talk yeah well you're welcome if you're in Paris to come in Le Marais and to experiment those talks. It's going to be interesting. It's a very well-known consultant. She owns her own firm about reputation, branding and reputation. A very important topic for everyone out there.

Yeah, thank you for sharing that. And I just really have a lot of gratitude for you creating this space for people out there yeah yeah thank you for sharing that and i just i'm really great have a lot of gratitude for you creating this space for people out there i think a lot of people are looking for community i can say as a traveler as someone who's also been on the road uh it's not something i've seen often uh as well and and wherever you go you're always looking for that kind of human touch um in a way and that little bit of magic so yes because we live in a polarized world you know we we have more and more i guess i don't know what's the origin and we have a lot of debates about why the world is getting much more polarized than before maybe because of social media or things explanations like that are relevant yet we

need to find a way to to be able to continue to to talk and to be able to trust as you said each other in being able to disagree with a person but with arguments and what I would like COCO to become is a place for debates about interesting subjects where everybody, each person that has a knowledge of the subject can talk and we can have the point of view of each person that knows the subject. And then we can have a debate between people that have an experience. And then, of course, the public, the audience can ask questions. But I feel that it's good to have some people that know a little bit about the technicalities, the specificities of a given subject,

and can give us more ideas, more details about what they think, and to be able to counter-argument with calm and serenity in order to learn the complexities of things, because those subjects usually are complex there is no it's not black or white less and less yeah yeah most things in life aren't i think we play around in the gray or rainbow colored area of life rather and i think it's it's so valuable that you're creating that space because like you said, a lot of people, less and less we are being able to have these open and direct conversations.

I actually find as a South African living here now, I find France pretty open in that. I think people are still very much having direct conversations, keen to debate and open up the kind of essence of a topic without necessarily becoming defensive or, you know, feeling like it's a personal attack or anything like that. And I appreciate that. I think a lot of cultures kind of tiptoe around an issue.

So I really... Some people like to debate. They like to go in the streets to protest. So it's exciting. It is exciting. We like to go in the streets to protest. So it's exciting. It is exciting. I like to fight for ideas. It's a wonderful thing. And I think that's what makes it such a, especially Paris, also such an exciting city to be in, you know, because people are alive.

There's this kind of joie de vivre that's in the air. So I think it's a great place to build that kind of authenticity in community especially among an international crowd so I know you mentioned some of the challenges and we'll talk about kind of where you're going now for a moment but I'm keen to hear as you've been building Coco in this community what has been like something that hit home for you some kind of advice someone that said something something you read somewhere that you felt really helped you along the journey i think what is sometimes difficult is that compared to a corporate life every problem becomes your problem you know in a corporate in a large company you have like some shields C'est votre problème. Dans une entreprise, dans une grande entreprise, vous avez des couteaux, des protégements.

Votre boss, le boss de votre boss, le boss de votre boss, sont votre protégement contre tout ce qui se passe mal. Et la responsabilité est diluée. Alors que quand vous êtes entrepreneur, tout est votre faute. Tout ce qui se passe mal, whereas when you're an entrepreneur everything is your fault right everything that goes wrong you have to you have to acknowledge that it's your responsibility and you have to find your

solution you're the only one to be able to do that and if and if the company goes bankrupt it's your fault nobody is going to save you so you're really much more you're much more lonely in the in your mindset and that's not easy so in order to succeed i mean to you you need to sometimes when you're a little bit uh you find it hard or you're you're kind of depressed or you don't really have a motivation anymore, which can happen. Of course, I think you need a co-founder. To me, it's a major thing that I did well by chance. It's also a luck that I met a co-founder that is for me someone that I can trust completely and I really love to share with him

and I always like to see him you know because he has a great energy so that's super important not to be alone and also to think about and you know the the project as we said the project that we have is a little bit broader it's broader than just apartments it's creating a community creating a place for for sharing knowledge and this vision each time i'm a little bit struggling finding that i'm struggling Each time I'm a little bit finding that I'm struggling, I keep thinking about the vision, going back to this vision and saying this is why I'm creating this company, this is why I want to develop the company because there is something big at the end that I really believe in. So you need to bring your personality to the project.

You need to bring your passion, what is your inner motivation to the project. And before creating a company, I think, and this is something I did personally, you need to really analyze your motivation your inner what makes you vibrate what is the vibration what is your passion what's what's enthusiastic for you and you need to bring that to the project oh that's amazing advice thank you thank you for sharing that and i think it's so true i don't think anything can really succeed and go anywhere if it doesn't have that real intention and motivation from a deep place um you know you can but it will kind of float off into

the into the distance and not have that gravitas and impact on the world that you want to create so i can resonate with that I think it took me a while to also kind of find my big mission in terms of the things I'm doing. And it does require you to kind of step back and be quiet in yourself and know yourself. And you're speaking about vibration. You know, I know that you were talking about luck and chance and meeting your co-founder, but I think a lot of that has to do with where you are resonating as your energy. You pull people into your life when you kind of resonate at a certain space. So you probably pull them into your life by going deeper and saying,

hey, this is my mission. This is what I need to do. Universe, help me. We are the people that can help me do this. So so i think that's a really um important point to to know yeah and one thing also that i noticed is that when i started i was super motivated you know when you start you have a huge energy and you're i was super confident and people they follow you you know because even though you don't know anything you know I didn't know about anything about hospitality anything about real estate anything about entrepreneurship but people were so you know I was so passionate that I could they could trust I was surprised that they trusted me

to do something great and then when you've been doing some I've been you know two or three years of work it starts to be harder because now at that point

people they look at the results it's not the idea anymore. Is it going to make money? Is it well realized? Are you doing the execution? Is it done in the right way? And here, it's more difficult because you're in the heart of the hard things. You know, the details. You're in the heart of the hard things. You know, the details.

You're in the details. It's hard. And then I think there is a point where I'm now at, after four years. And when you see that what you've created is looking good. You know, the fundamentals are good. People, when they look at the project it can be investors it can be journalists it can be your family you can see that they they find what you did interesting and it gives you another energy so energy the flow of energy is super important and then you have daily routines

that you need to put in place in order to to be having energy every day even though you're not motivated because you have some you have some days where you you know you work so much every day that there are some days you have less energy. So how do you do? You need to put in place some routines. I'm glad you mentioned that because something that I did want to ask you, how do you kind of keep filling your cup? How do you make sure you have that energy flow? Because you're very right, it's very, very important.

And whether you're working a nine to five or in entrepreneurship, in entrepreneurship it's a lot harder i think because you like you say you're very on your own so what are your kind of daily practices that you put in place i i learned and i'm still learning but because i think it's uh it's so hard to be an entrepreneur that you keep on having some difficulties, you know, in your entrepreneurial life, you're always going to have some difficulties. And you're always going to put some practices, put some routines in place

in order to face the next difficulty that you are going to have because when you feel comfortable you know that something wrong is going to happen as an entrepreneur so and so my routine that is progressing you know it's not from the first day that i implemented it but i noticed that going to the nature is important and with video calls I can start to work from outside Paris and so I can go to the mountain to the ocean and this is super important for me and think to to see the trees to see the the ocean to see the colors and i was skiing last week and it was it brought me i realized how i missed the sun because it was raining in paris for like three months in a row and it's really depressing and then you have sports

so you also as we organize some events sometimes we we go to nightclubs with all the colivers and so we spend a lot of time partying also it's part of our job i mean so how to party but then to be going back to work in the next morning and be sharp i'm learning about all those things it's it's a balance yeah no i uh you probably have a very good tolerance uh i don't know if i could do that but that's uh that's awesome yeah i think life is such a balance between social and and physical and mental and all of those things that stimulate you and like you say bring nature is a beautiful thing that um i i know it's difficult to find in a city but at least here

we also have kind of like a museum of a city when you walk it's it for me at least as an artist it's a very inspiring so now that you kind of look ahead and you've you've walked quite a journey already with coco what do you feel is coming i mean we're quite excited to hear like a year from now where do you find yourself? What do you envision for this community? I think we have, of course, the international expansion, which is something down the road that will be challenging and super interesting because I've always been traveling around the world

and working for a very international company. So I want to bring Coco to the cities that I like the most in the world. And the second thing is the fact that with this community, it's super extensible. I mean, you can have a lot of ideas of growth to improve the connections between all the members of the community. For example, we are thinking about having maybe a wine bar or a cafe in Paris, having a sports club, because this is also very important in your balance, right? club because this is also very important in your balance right sport and last year i started to to swim nearly every morning as part of my routine in a swimming pool so gym is also something we can

add to the to the community features so and more events be more professional in the way we do events of course keep this touch which is a little bit the family touch continue to do very interesting talks and have more and more talks more and more events this is one thing that i want to develop okay oh that sounds amazing well i'm very excited for all of that. I think it's going to be really amazing to see you guys expand and I feel like every city in the world does need a Coco.

Let me know about the Coco Café. I'm always keen for coffee as well. Yeah. We have a lot of requests about gym and café. It's got a nice ring to it, Coco Cafe. I love it. I want to move on to a little section that we always do on the podcast.

It's called The Gems. And it's really about sharing something that's been good for you this week or challenging or something you've learned. And I'll go first just to kind of give you an idea. But what's really been a gem for me this week is being able to feel a sense of settling I've been on the road for about two years now and I really am very grateful that I can now be here in Paris and with having to slow down universe has really like taught me now to slow down just to ground a little bit nature helps a lot with that but yeah just just feeling a sense of community I guess yeah being

able to start making friends that you know you'll see every week instead of a new face every day as you're traveling it's really given me a new wave of energy which I appreciate so yeah just being able to share the space with people in the city and that's been a real big dream for me um how about for you what's what's the week held for you as I said skiing in the beautiful Alps um reminded me how beautiful France is you know because to be in the mountain when the snow is beautiful the sky is blue and you're alone in the in the immense city of the mountains it's completely crazy and then in the same day nearly because I came back to Paris and yesterday we had the departure. A person is leaving Coco back to the US and she made a party to say goodbye. And, exactly. A farewell party. She invited all the people from the community that she liked.

And we had a dinner. And such interesting people. And I really, you know, it made me... I was very happy to see this community is really alive. And she's sad to leave. But she says she's going to come come back so this was a very nice moment and we had very interesting conversation again because all those people from different origin different backgrounds we we did the talk about politics in every country represented by the

person that were there so it was super interesting amazing that sounds really great and such a kind of intimate moment to share with someone who we've built a connection with and it goes out into the world and you always have a space that you can go visit as well which is the beauty of international community and friends I found as well yeah and and on that And on that, I actually want to give a quick shout out. So one thing we've also been doing is saying our people, places, and spaces that we feel have the feels.

And it seems quite fitting, and I would be quite remiss not to mention Home Exchange, which has been a bit of a home for me as I've been traveling. So I wanted to give them a shout out. My Home Exchange journey is kind of coming to an end now, but it's been a wonderful two years. So thank you to them and the wonderful friends and community I've made through them. And yeah, I just think home swapping the way you've also doing it is such an amazing thing,

creating that trust and community. So a shout out to another authentic community out there that's doing their thing in a very cool way. And then a very last quick spotlight on our, last but not least, our Riverside FM partner for the month. They make sure that we can do this, we can have these conversations. Thank you to you guys. conversations thank you to you guys and yeah who knows maybe we'll be having more of these kind of recordings and conversations with cocoa community livers that'll be amazing so yeah thanks guys for making it happen and yeah and then a very last question to you frederick is uh what is in your stack now the stack is something that we starting to showcase as a bit of our reading list

books that we've loved that have meant a lot to us that we're busy reading that we'd like to read so what's in your stack at the moment um the book i'm reading right now is um from irvin yalom i don't know if you know this no i don't spin's called the Spinoza problem and it's the life of Spinoza and the life of the ideologue of the Nazi party oh wow

and it's about community because Spinoza was in a Jewish community and he was very involved but he has been rejected because of his ideas Pinoza était dans une communauté juive et il était très impliqué, mais il a été rejeté à cause de ses idées de la communauté. Il y a un lien dans ce livre avec l'idéologie des nazis que je ne vous dis pas exactement ce que ça va être, parce que si je vous explique, ce n'est pas I don't tell you exactly what it's going to be because if I explain you, it's not as fun as if you discover, but it's also about racism. And it's the author.

I'm now reading all the books of the same author. It's someone who loves philosophy and was also a psychoanalyst. So interesting. someone who loves philosophy and who's also a psychoanalyst. So through those books, you enter the psychology of the philosophers. And it's a great book. It's amazing. Oh, amazing.

We're definitely going to add that to the stack. And we'll have it on the site so people can click on it and go and buy it as well. I'm definitely adding that to my reading list. So thank you. It sounds really, really interesting. And also talk about community. Yeah, it's interesting how one can create different communities for different reasons out in the world. And it's great when you're creating community with a positive effect and impact. But yeah, thank you so much. And yeah yeah just a really big thank you for coming to share with us today uh you know for all our listeners out there what do you feel is authentic community to you do you feel like you are finding something like a coco in your area and uh yeah maybe you want to come and visit paris and connect with coco community and yeah where can

people find you what are the best places for them to reach out to you we have an instagram account and we have a website that where you can find all our apartments it's called coco community and the instagram is coco.coliving perfect we'll share on the socials as well and yeah just a really big thank you for coming and sharing and really love what you guys are doing and yeah i hope to see you in person very soon and hopefully it will stop raining in paris thank you nicole for your invitation and of course i hope you will be there on the 31st Merci Nicole pour ton invitation. Et bien sûr, j'espère que tu seras là le 31 janvier. Et si quelqu'un veut être là et venir, vous êtes tous bienvenus. Nous vous servons de très bon champagne.

Comme les Français, nous devons servir de bon vin et de bon champagne, n'est-ce pas? Autrement, ce n'est pas une fête française. Oui, c'est ça. as French people we need to serve good wine and good champagne right otherwise it's not a French party oui oui oui c'est ça c'est ça thank you so much again you're welcome thank you if you haven't just yet

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